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Speaker 1: took this conversation stared again. The question is where do

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Speaker 1: we go from here? And it's it's a good thing

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Speaker 1: that this, that all of this awareness is is coming

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Speaker 1: to light of people. And the thing that is great

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Speaker 1: is and not that there is a great thing about it.

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Speaker 1: If you can take some from the people who some

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Speaker 1: of the people who are protesting, people who are at

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Speaker 1: the forefront of this aren't of color. And this is

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Speaker 1: something that I've never seen in my lifetime that people

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Speaker 1: who aren't black are, you know, championing this cause. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's one of the good things that comes

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Speaker 1: from this. And hopefully this conversation happened, we can have

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Speaker 1: it uncomfortably and then we never have to have it again.

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Speaker 1: That's my hope. And that's and that's that's a great hope.

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Speaker 1: And I think that when you when you because in

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Speaker 1: get into politics. It's just life, you know that we're

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Speaker 1: talking about, and your your tremendous musical audiences and your

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Speaker 1: emotion and things that you sing about tapping into what

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Speaker 1: we you know, you've made me cry, you maybe laugh,

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Speaker 1: you maybe damn. Okay, Okay, let's be real not you know.

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Speaker 1: I've been in concerts in l A watching you, under

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Speaker 1: standing up going yeah, you know, I'm in the concert.

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Speaker 1: I want you had that silhouette. You just come out

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Speaker 1: with a silhouette, remember that, Yeah that I go back

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Speaker 1: with your baby, I go back with you, and so

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Speaker 1: and and and and so when you and then you

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Speaker 1: look at the pandemic and and you realize that African

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Speaker 1: Americans are and people of color or dying overtly of this,

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Speaker 1: of this uh this worldwide that some people call it

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Speaker 1: a plague, and and it just forced me to change

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Speaker 1: my value system and how I approached them and how

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Speaker 1: communicate things to people. In some ways, I've become a

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Speaker 1: pandemic expert on how to handle your finances and how

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Speaker 1: you live your life socially. And then you have a family.

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Speaker 1: This is home now, you know, how how did you

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Speaker 1: deal with And I'll just tell you my short story

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Speaker 1: when I I'm comfortable with it, Brian. But initially, man,

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Speaker 1: I had problems going down in the streets. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know what to do. They have gloves do I put

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Speaker 1: the sanard tis all, I put the mask on. I

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Speaker 1: really was struggling, and it was in somewhat way it's

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Speaker 1: fearful of this, and I'm not saying I'm not afraid

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Speaker 1: of it now, but I'm much more comfortable because, like

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Speaker 1: they said, this is the new normal, and you learn

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Speaker 1: to adjust to the new normal. Yeah. You know what's

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Speaker 1: funny about that is my wife has been preaching distancing

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Speaker 1: way before the way before this happened. You know, she

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Speaker 1: germs and touching people and shaking hands. I shake hands

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Speaker 1: after every show, and she was like, look, just after stop,

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Speaker 1: you know, before you touch me, you better go over

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Speaker 1: there and get your hands real, real clean and everything.

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Speaker 1: You know. So we have been really looking, you know,

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Speaker 1: to be this way for quite some time. So there

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Speaker 1: hasn't been a lot of of of adjustments, necessarily for

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Speaker 1: home bodies anyway. Um, there's two things. One, I hadn't

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Speaker 1: taken a break from doing shows and probably fifteen years,

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Speaker 1: so I'm sure that my voice, my body, my mind

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Speaker 1: needed a bit of a break anyway that I probably

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Speaker 1: wouldn't taken. Uh, So that's a good thing. And we've

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Speaker 1: actually been able to spend time just together the family.

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Speaker 1: Our parents were here, we were having family dinner every night,

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Speaker 1: being together where we normally wouldn't be able tos we

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Speaker 1: was a holiday. So is that part of the team

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Speaker 1: good as well. So again we try to find that

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Speaker 1: silver lining and otherwise tough situations. But hopefully this is

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Speaker 1: educating people that you know, we all need to be cleaner,

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Speaker 1: we all need to sanitize all the things that we

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Speaker 1: need to sanitize, and just you know, be cognizantive when

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Speaker 1: you're sneezing when you're coughing. We've been on airplanes or

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Speaker 1: someone behind us just sneezing all over the place, off

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Speaker 1: and all over the place. You know, these are things

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Speaker 1: that people are now hopefully are being more cognizant about.

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Speaker 1: But as you go out to the grocery store and

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Speaker 1: go out the places, not everyone is that hearing because

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Speaker 1: this and that's the part that can be very frustrated.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely Now the twenty album extra this uh tell us,

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Speaker 1: uh tell us the whole story about get the album,

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Speaker 1: getting the singles? What what can I do? What can

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Speaker 1: I do? I got social media too, you know, you're

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Speaker 1: trying to build his own brand now, I gotta I

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Speaker 1: got a mail in list of ninety three thousand going

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Speaker 1: out this Wednesday. I got almost a million social media

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Speaker 1: followers on the Rushan McDonald money, make conversations. What can

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Speaker 1: I do for my good friend Brian McKnight. I tell you,

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Speaker 1: just just talking to you now and knowing that you're

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Speaker 1: still in my corner after all these years. Man, is

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Speaker 1: it's a conversation that we can have because we all

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Speaker 1: need that, because everybody's on social media. Because because of that,

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Speaker 1: everyone becomes a celebrity. Of some notes. How do you

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Speaker 1: make how do you make your noise be seen and

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Speaker 1: be heard by people that are all over the place.

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Speaker 1: Anybody you would think, oh wow, now I can just

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Speaker 1: sell directly to my fans. Well it's not quite, daddy,

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Speaker 1: because everybody has something to say. Everybody has you know,

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Speaker 1: it's tough to to make your way and navigate through

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Speaker 1: this sea of people. Um and the three you really

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Speaker 1: need to lean on someone several someone's who know how

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Speaker 1: to navigate. Another great. Yeah, it's another great reason to

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Speaker 1: be back in contact with you because I've seen the

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Speaker 1: things you've done. I mean I watch stephen A every day,

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Speaker 1: watched his watch Need York Rid and you know, it

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Speaker 1: can't it can't be a coincidence that you're next to

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Speaker 1: all of these people who the New York riding And

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Speaker 1: now that I look back at the man, he was

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Speaker 1: in my quarterback in the day, and I could have

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Speaker 1: had that thing. I'm still in your corner. So let's

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Speaker 1: stop all that. Man, Stop all that man. It's just that,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'll tell everybody just that. I just I

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Speaker 1: just sat down on myself and just figure out who

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Speaker 1: Sean McDonald was. And like you in the pandemic. This

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Speaker 1: has been a good thing for me as well because

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Speaker 1: from a from us, from a spiritual, from a social,

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Speaker 1: from a family standpoint, I really it's a it's a crisis,

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Speaker 1: an on going crisis. But my whole life has been

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Speaker 1: dealing with some type of crisis. But building other people's

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Speaker 1: careers and and things like that. Now that I sat

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Speaker 1: back and I look at what I can accomplish for myself,

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Speaker 1: I know I can do more for others who trust me,

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Speaker 1: who really trusts me, and and and when I look

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Speaker 1: at your music and I look at the times we

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Speaker 1: you know I'm one of these guys eyes bro. You

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Speaker 1: might not say hello to me or by to me,

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Speaker 1: but I'm watching, I'm watching, and I'm loving them. I'm

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Speaker 1: going I just gotta give my life right. Because I

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Speaker 1: give my life right, I can do some right things

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Speaker 1: for people that I love, I respect. And you wanted

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Speaker 1: to hear at the top of the list of one

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Speaker 1: of those lists, Brian Igniting, I love, I respect, and

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to bring you on the show man

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Speaker 1: just to talk and laugh about some things. You probably

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Speaker 1: think we're not important to me, but they are important

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Speaker 1: to me, and you can hear come out of my

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Speaker 1: mouth and just share story with my my my fans

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Speaker 1: on the money making conversation platform. That's all. It's a

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Speaker 1: funny thing because I'm one of those people too. I

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Speaker 1: probably would have never picked up the phone and calls

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Speaker 1: myself and say, hey, can you look at this and

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Speaker 1: tell me how I can do that because watching you work,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to know that you're watching because you've seen

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Speaker 1: very you know, a student about what you're actually doing.

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Speaker 1: And now hearing you say that you were still watching it,

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Speaker 1: it makes me feel good because I was like, man, Ma, Sean,

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Speaker 1: you know he he's doing all this, you know he.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if you could do something for me, but

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Speaker 1: I don't want to ask because he dealing with somebody

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Speaker 1: who's bigger than me right now. And really get that,

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Speaker 1: that that thing about you that says, you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: not Sean, maybe there's somebody else, but you know what,

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Speaker 1: why not do with the guy who's the best? There

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Speaker 1: you go, there you go, there you go. Hey be man,

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Speaker 1: thank you for calling my show man. And again we

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Speaker 1: will talk soon. I gotta wrap up some scenes in

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Speaker 1: the month of August and September. We will talk. But

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Speaker 1: again I'm a drop the information in my fan club,

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Speaker 1: just everything I've done for myself. Man, if my key

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Speaker 1: be able to reintroduce myself to friends and say, hey man,

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Speaker 1: this ain't by the contract. This is not even by

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Speaker 1: trying to give me a dollar. It's about my love

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Speaker 1: do You're a game changer. Okay, Ryan, forget that good game.

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Speaker 1: Change I that and and we're gonna change the game

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Speaker 1: starting this year too. Together. I'm ready. I'm in your hands.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Man. We talked to it. Okay, okay.

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