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Speaker 1: I Am all In.

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Speaker 2: Oh, let's just you. I Am all In with Scott Patterson,

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Speaker 2: an iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, this is another episode of

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Speaker 2: I'm All In, but today it's just myself, Tara and

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Speaker 2: Suzanne Girl Day, Danielle and I did this for Danielle's

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Speaker 2: diary and now we're going to do Suzanne's diary for Spring,

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Speaker 2: which is episode two in the Year in Life. So, Suzanne,

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna start by saying, this is my least

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Speaker 2: favorite episode of the revivals.

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Speaker 1: I have to agree with you. It's so tense, Like

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Speaker 1: when I was watching at my anxiety level, it's so high.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I need an adult beverage. I'm so worked of.

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Speaker 2: I I'm not gonna lie to you. I watched it

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Speaker 2: once last week and I completely forgot it, and so

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Speaker 2: I watched it again last night and I'm like, oh, no,

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Speaker 2: wonder I forgot it because it wasn't that memorable. It

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Speaker 2: was pretty annoying.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's just so miserable everyone.

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Speaker 2: And like it wasn't a bad episode, right, Like it

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Speaker 2: wasn't terrible, but it wasn't good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Like it wasn't that it was poorly acted

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Speaker 1: or poorly written or anything. It just was it. I

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Speaker 1: just didn't when I watched the first episode Winter, you

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Speaker 1: have like these kind of warm fuzzies cause it's winter

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Speaker 1: and there's snow and we're seeing all the characters again

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Speaker 1: and finding out what they're up to, and so, you know,

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Speaker 1: there were some downer moments for sure, because we had

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Speaker 1: to deal with Richard's death and all that, but overall

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Speaker 1: the episode was kind of lighthearted and happy, and then

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Speaker 1: we get to this episode and every everyone is miserable.

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Speaker 1: Nobody likes anything that is happening to them. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess except Kirk because he got to come out

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Speaker 1: with his second movie. But yeah, it just it was

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Speaker 1: kind of depressing. There was there was.

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Speaker 2: Uh I was, yeah, yeah, I there was nothing memorable

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Speaker 2: about it for me, Like I've seen this, like I

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Speaker 2: think Danielle and I talked about this and the Danielle's diary,

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Speaker 2: but like I've probably seen these like maybe four times.

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Speaker 2: Truly don't remember this up Like the the only part

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Speaker 2: I actually remembered was when she gets an argument with

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Speaker 2: the girl from the paper or the when she's like

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Speaker 2: I thought you wanted me, Like that's the only thing

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Speaker 2: I actually remember in therapy.

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Speaker 1: I did, Like, I don't want to be totally negative

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Speaker 1: about it, but so I'm gonna I'm gonna highlight some

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Speaker 1: things that I did. Like, I thought the International Festival

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Speaker 1: was kind of cute. It was yeah, typical stars hollow,

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Speaker 1: like Tailor's all worked up about, you know, everything that's

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Speaker 1: going wrong and trying to fix everything.

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Speaker 2: And the town meeting with it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I thought that was good. So typically I

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Speaker 1: like the town stuff, so I did. I did enjoy that.

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Speaker 2: That part felt very Gilmore for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it was quirky. It was irreverent, you know,

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Speaker 1: Singapore was just being a dick like that. It just

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Speaker 1: was funny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, was that the same Yeah, it was the same

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Speaker 2: meeting when they were talking about like the gay the

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Speaker 2: gay Pride parade and they were like, do you think Taylor,

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Speaker 2: that anyone else, anyone in the town.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was funny. So the town meeting

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Speaker 1: was good. We got to see mister Kim, so that

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Speaker 1: was good. I love that they threw viewers that bone

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Speaker 1: because it's always, you know, everybody's always where's mister Kim?

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Speaker 1: Why don't they ever show mister Kim? So I thought

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Speaker 1: that was great that they threw that in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no Suki again, we got Rachel Ray instead.

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, the one thing that really

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Speaker 1: stuck out in my mind about this episod so it

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Speaker 1: is I do not like the Dragonfly without Sukie. It

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Speaker 1: was those those Dragonfly scenes. Michelle was like so just

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Speaker 1: just completely unhinged and hysterical, and I those scenes were

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Speaker 1: just so anxiety provoking for me. He's upset about every

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Speaker 1: little thing, and I'm like, Where's where's Suki for the

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Speaker 1: comic relief? Yeah. I wasn't a fan of those scenes.

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Speaker 1: He just was so Michelle by himself is really grating,

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Speaker 1: and then you then you suddenly find out, okay, this

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Speaker 1: must be where Taylor got his information from.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I actually I thought that that little storyline

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Speaker 1: They're just like all sitting around the inn and yeah

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Speaker 2: She had another dream about him and I liked that

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Speaker 2: the callback. But I mean because he was he was

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Speaker 2: in the show, right, he showed up in the actual series?

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Speaker 1: Did he I can't remember? Or was he just in

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Speaker 1: the room? I can't.

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Speaker 2: I think he did.

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Speaker 1: I think he did, And now Jackie.

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Speaker 2: Will look this up. Yeah he was, he was. It

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Speaker 2: was because she had a dream. It was a dream

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay. I'm like yeah, I thought, okay. And

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Speaker 1: when he turned to the camera and goes squirrel, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Also another appearance was May Whitman. Did you notice this?

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Speaker 2: For people who don't know. May Whitman was in Parenthood

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Speaker 2: with Lauren Graham and I think the show had just

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Speaker 2: year prior, so this was kind of a little reunion

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Speaker 2: between them, and then we got a fake Chad Michael Murray.

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Speaker 2: It was like, I actually when they said is that Tristan,

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Speaker 2: I rewound it and I'm like where I didn't see him?

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Speaker 2: Like I didn't. It was just like this guy with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I went back to when he was

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Speaker 1: interviewed for the podcast, because I was trying to remember

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Speaker 1: that story and his wife was that was her due

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Speaker 1: date or she was in labor, and so that's why

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Speaker 1: he was supposed to do it, but then he had

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Speaker 2: I kind of wish they just didn't put it in

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Speaker 2: there then, like I didn't want fake Tristan.

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Speaker 1: Well, that was kind of my red flag on the episode,

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Speaker 1: was the whole Tristan thing. I thought Paris's reaction was

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Speaker 1: so weirdly over the top, Like she's not still going

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Speaker 1: that she had a crush on when she was a sophomore.

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Speaker 2: I don't just I feel like, I don't know it's Paris.

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Speaker 2: I feel like anything's possible.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's true, that's true.

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Speaker 2: I guess I agree with you. I see what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's one thing to see him and be like,

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Speaker 1: how she did that in those four inch heels or

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Speaker 2: I'm also, did you ever watch Murder? She wrote, which, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was Murder? She wrote that she was in.

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Speaker 1: Right, Oh, how to get Away with Murder?

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Speaker 2: Sorry? How to ga? How to get Away with Murder?

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Speaker 2: Did you ever watch it?

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Speaker 1: I saw the first season?

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I love that show, and it just like

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Speaker 2: I think, with her with that haircut and everything, I

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Speaker 2: was just like, yeah, isn't the Paris that I know?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, she was really good at it. And

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Speaker 1: I love Violin Dama, so I enjoy that too. I

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Speaker 1: would have watched more. It's it's on Netflix, but it's

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Speaker 1: there's like four more seasons to go. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it, but yeah, she's really good in that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's see what else. Oh, speaking of the Chilten scene,

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Speaker 1: I thought this was a total missed opportunity. I don't

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Speaker 1: but I was surprised we didn't hear from Max. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to know what Max is doing, and they never

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Speaker 1: they never addressed it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say, like, I actually forgot about until

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Speaker 2: you just said it because I was more excited to

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Speaker 2: see the Headmaster. Yes, I just thought it was so

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Speaker 2: nice to see him. But it was kind of refreshing

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Speaker 2: and he, you know, like said that he was paying

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Speaker 2: attention to Rory's writing and things like that. I think

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Speaker 2: it was just heartwarming with Max. I think it would

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Speaker 2: me to I just think in general with the Revival,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of storylines that are not fleshed out

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Speaker 2: as much as we would like, so they had to.

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Speaker 2: I would have liked to see Max over fake Tristan. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would have flipped it.

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Speaker 1: If they couldn't have gotten him on it at least

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Speaker 1: like said something about what he ended up doing.

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Speaker 2: Right, well, Chilton, did he go like he was here

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Speaker 2: last week and he also had a class or spoke

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Speaker 2: to a class like just something. I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it would have been fun to find out

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Speaker 1: like whatever wound up happening to Max because we didn't

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Speaker 2: But maybe that's why, because like I mean, he was

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Speaker 2: pretty like a big character those those first three seasons,

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Speaker 2: but it's been a very many years since we even

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Speaker 2: heard his name, because I don't think he was even

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think so either. Yeah, but they brought

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Speaker 1: Digger back, so they you know, they could have had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Digger just made more sense because of the family

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Speaker 2: history at the funeral. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So then the therapy, some of the therapy sessions were

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Speaker 1: kind of funny. Emily had a good line about are

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that was funny.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the ongoing tension between Lorelai and Emil Emily,

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Speaker 1: I just had Maybe it was naive of me to

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Speaker 1: think that maybe therapy would actually help them, but it

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Speaker 1: didn't say it really did either one of them any good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe Lorelai individually is starting to get some benefit,

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Speaker 1: but it didn't. I didn't feel like it helped make

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Speaker 1: any progress on their relationship.

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Speaker 2: It's it bugged me that, well, I'm glad that Lorelai

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Speaker 2: stayed yeah the last session when Emily backed out, But

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Speaker 2: it bugged me that she didn't tell Luke. And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: are we back to square one of keeping things? Like

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Speaker 2: what's the big deal to be? Like, hey, my mom

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Speaker 2: didn't come to therapy, but I did it solo today,

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Speaker 2: Like why didn't you talk about that with your significant other? Right?

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Speaker 1: And in that same scene, he also doesn't tell her

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Speaker 1: that he went looking at diners. Yes, so they're both

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Speaker 1: withholding information from each other in that scene, which again

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Speaker 1: like right back, it's like April all over again.

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Speaker 2: And I think more than ever in this episode, I

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Speaker 2: realized that even though they've been together for eight nine years,

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Speaker 1: I know I was. I was surprised that it was

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Speaker 1: not a character. Yeah, I was too. I was a

432
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: little surprised that she got mad like that.

433
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fine to get mad, and you know, and

434
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 2: the phone call and then like vent to like Lane

435
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: or your mom, but like, don't don't do it to

436
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 2: the girl who what if your cross pads again in

437
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 2: your future? You know it doesn't that look? What a

438
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: good look.

439
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 1: I will say that both Sandy and Naomi Shropshire. I

440
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: thought those two characters. I loved them. They were so

441
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 1: much fun to watch. Alex Kingston is great and then

442
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: the im I'm blanking on the other actress's name, Oh,

443
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 1: Julia Goldanie tell us she was and bunheads and yes, Yeah,

444
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: really good in that.

445
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: So I had to google her because I was like,

446
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 2: what have I seen her in? So Bunheads.

447
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. I really enjoyed both of those characters. I thought

448
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: they were They were yeah, fun to watch, and they

449
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: were a high point for me. So yeah, I mean overall. Oh,

450
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 1: in the movie theater scene. I liked that scene too.

451
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: They were cooking bab Bet and Maury were grilling in

452
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 1: the movie theater and Maury had that t shirt a

453
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Speaker 1: film by Kirk and I liked that little throat.

454
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Speaker 2: Also, the line when they were like, oh, you guys,

455
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 2: get the love seat and like, I can't remember exactly

456
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: what the line was, but Luke's like we're already sitting

457
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 2: like basically knows what's happened on this couch. I thought

458
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: that was funny. I also liked that they kept those

459
00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 2: like nuances about the town, like this weird movie theater

460
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 2: that you know still there and right.

461
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Speaker 1: I like it.

462
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: They kept those things, so that made it very nostalgic

463
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 2: to the show.

464
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

465
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Speaker 2: The one thing that kind of bugged me in this,

466
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: and I don't know if it's just me, is Rory's

467
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: three phones. What do you need three phones for? You

468
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: don't even have a job.

469
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: Exactly, and and Stars Hollow had plenty of cell phone

470
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: reception in the early two thousands.

471
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: Why all what happened?

472
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: Now have cell phone reception.

473
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: I understand the phone that probably was to call London

474
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: back and forth to call Logan like the international plant. Sure,

475
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Speaker 2: I'll take that one. What are the two other two

476
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 2: phones for?

477
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? That didn't make sense. Is especially like you say,

478
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Speaker 1: when you're not working, you don't Yeah.

479
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that part kind of I was like, I don't know.

480
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: It kind of bugged me. I'm like, stop trying to

481
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: act like you have a lot going on, because you.

482
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: Don't, right, And they kept they kept hitting on that too,

483
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: like they it started in winter, and then they did

484
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: it again in this episode. It's like, yeah, you know,

485
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: we get it, we can we can move on.

486
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Speaker 2: Did she throw the phone away at the end to

487
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: one of them, I was like, you just threw it away?

488
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, the flip phone. She like broke it all apart. Yeah.

489
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: I did like seeing Danny Strong in this though, with Yes.

490
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: You know, I have always liked Paris and Doyle, and

491
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: so I was sad to hear that they were getting

492
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 1: a divorced because I know it's the perfect couple to me.

493
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: I know, I actually forgot about the divorce until I rewatched.

494
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: I was like, oh yeah, but then again, I mean

495
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 2: it's Paris.

496
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and their house with all the stairs.

497
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 2: And also their kids were so calm. When Rory took

498
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 2: them to the park, I was kind of I was

499
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: waiting for something to happen.

500
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was too. I thought I kept like waiting

501
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: for like some like you say, something to happen or

502
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: And I don't even know where the little boy was.

503
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: Was he he was sitting on the floor.

504
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: Oh okay. But when they were at the park, because

505
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: she was sitting with the girl, he was on.

506
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 2: The floor from what I remember, Yeah, he's like sitting

507
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: on the grass. And then she's sitting next to Rory

508
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: eating her hot dog okay.

509
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: And then Rory said something about oh, I thought the

510
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: baby was going to throw up, and I'm like, what baby?

511
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: Like four?

512
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? Unless no, they only had two kids, right, it

513
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: was only Yeah.

514
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: That's why when she was talking on the phone to

515
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: Logan and she goes, oh, wait, hold on a second,

516
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: I thought the baby was going to throw up. And

517
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: that was when Logan's like, do you want to tell

518
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: me something?

519
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: I think it was to get that line from Logan.

520
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: That's what it feels like. It was to get that like, oh,

521
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 2: lots changed since you've last to kind of give the like, oh,

522
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: it's been three four months since you've been here. Have

523
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: you had a child since?

524
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

525
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 2: But I hate to say it, like I do really

526
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: like Logan and Rory still together in this like the

527
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: way their dynamic. I just hate that he's in our

528
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 2: relationship bugs, Like it's like this back and forth of

529
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 2: like you want them to be together, but why can't

530
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: you just break up with this girl who's never home. Yeah,

531
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 2: And it seems like he talks to Rory more than

532
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 2: he talks to her at times, and she's.

533
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: Not breaking up with her boyfriend either. It's like, oh

534
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: my god, Paul, but she never actually does it that.

535
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not I've said it before on

536
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: the podcast. I don't think that any of the three

537
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: boyfriends are Rory's endgame. I want her to find someone different,

538
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: so like, cut Logan loose, cut Paul loose, and find

539
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: somebody that can just be devoted to you and not

540
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: being the other woman.

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00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know I'm jumping ahead a little bit,

542
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: and I know that obviously we see Dean and Jess

543
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: in the revival. I just wish it was less Logan,

544
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: Like I wish that we kind of even maybe not

545
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: Dean because a lot of times, like who really goes

546
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: back to their high school boyfriend, you know, Like I

547
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: thought that's but I feel like Jess was someone who

548
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: had a lot more in a lot more impact in

549
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: Rory's life, especially like when he saw at Yale and

550
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: his opening his bookstore. Like, I just wish we get

551
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: a little bit more. And I'm like, I don't know

552
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: if I need four episodes of Logan, but I understand why.

553
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, exactly because we have to get to those

554
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: last four words at the end of Fall, so that,

555
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: like everything, all the boyfriend stuff is leading up to that. Yeah,

556
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: I agree with you about Jess. I think of the three,

557
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: Ess probably just might be the most compatible personality wise,

558
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: Like I think, especially now that he's grown up and

559
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: he's not this turble making kid, but as a teenager,

560
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: I thought I thought they were cute together. I mean,

561
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: that's in the next episode, but I'm.

562
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, No, I was just saying overall, like I

563
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: just because I was waiting for Jess in this episode

564
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: because last week Danielle asked me, She's like, is Mile

565
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: on the next one? I'm like, I don't remember, mind you,

566
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: I forgot this whole episode because it's clearly my least

567
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: like I actually, when I finished, I was like, how

568
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: do I tell Suzan this was the worst? But you

569
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: agreed with me.

570
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, it would have been good to have a

571
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: little bit more, Jess, I agree, yeah.

572
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: And just I don't know the I mean, I guess

573
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: kind of to put it all together, this just felt

574
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: like a filler of the revival, Like it wasn't like

575
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: the mediest part of the revival.

576
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It felt like it was more it

577
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: was intentionally kind of chaotic, trying to set up again,

578
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: to set up those last four words, because it has

579
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: to come out that Rory's life is not together and

580
00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: that she's not settled and she's unsure about what her

581
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: future holds. Because then those last four words have more

582
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: impact than they would for somebody who's, you know, in

583
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: a stable relationship and has a good job and owns

584
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: a house, you know, So they kind of create that chaos,

585
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: which I think was kind of what this season was about. Yes, definitely,

586
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: he just kind of being.

587
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, I agree. Well, Suzanne, should we rate this?

588
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: Rate this episode?

589
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: R this? I'm I'm gonna give this uh. I'm trying

590
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: to remember what I can't remember what I rated Winter.

591
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: I think I gave it a seven.

592
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: I gave it a seven.

593
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to give this probably a six.

594
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: Uh.

595
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna give it six crow doo cakes.

596
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna give it a five. I'm want to

597
00:31:52,680 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 2: give it five wookies because would But yeah, I mean

598
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: I'm excited for the next two because I just know,

599
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: I know it's gearing up to get better. Yeah, and

600
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: also watching these revivals make me actually want to go

601
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: now that we're all basically almost in fall, I just

602
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: want to start from the beginning. I'm like, can we

603
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: hurry up and get through these so I can start over.

604
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: I have so many friends too, who've actually never seen

605
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls, and I'm like the walking poster of like, well,

606
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: it's almost fall, so get your pumpkin spice latte and

607
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: start an episode.

608
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be perfect when it's not ninety five degrees.

609
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: Yeah right, all right, So I'm pretty excited for the

610
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: next two. I feel like we're just gearing up for more.

611
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna it's it's gonna go start going out

612
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: for me.

613
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Susanne, do you want to send us

614
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Speaker 2: out of your Suzanne's diaries?

615
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I don't talk about putting me on

616
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: the spot. I don't worry.

617
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: Danielle did it to me and it was her own

618
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: diary last sight.

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Speaker 1: So that is going to wrap it up for Suzanne's diary.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for giving us the opportunity to have

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Speaker 1: a little sidebar chat about the episode, and we'll talk soon.

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Speaker 2: Bye, hey everybody, and don't forget follow us on Instagram

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Speaker 2: at I Am all In podcast and email us at

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Speaker 2: Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.