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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Buck Brief. Our friend Joe Burrelli joins

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<v Speaker 2>with us. He is the Sage of Staten Island, a

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<v Speaker 2>man who needs no introduction, but we will give him

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<v Speaker 2>one on this podcast anyway, because he is a city

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<v Speaker 2>council member in New York surrounded by communists, holding the

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<v Speaker 2>torture freedom and doing so for Staten Island. No less,

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<v Speaker 2>we have our friend Joe Burrelli here with us. Mister Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>good to see.

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<v Speaker 3>You, always, good to see you, Buck. Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I saw this. You know you got to

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<v Speaker 2>give us the update and what's going on in America's

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<v Speaker 2>biggest city. Because I saw this and there was a

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<v Speaker 2>part of me that thought this can't really be real.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a law, a city statute, right that's under consideration,

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<v Speaker 2>city ordinance whatever. That would mean that members of the NYPD,

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<v Speaker 2>for any interaction direct interaction with the public while on duty,

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<v Speaker 2>would have to note the race, gender, and age of

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<v Speaker 2>the person they talk to. Can you give us first?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that basically right, I mean bring us into this conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on up there?

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<v Speaker 3>Ye?

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<v Speaker 1>So the city Council passed a local law for the

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<v Speaker 1>city requiring the police department and their officers to basically

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<v Speaker 1>fill out a checkbox form and an explanation or a

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<v Speaker 1>level one stop. So NYPD, like many police departments, per

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<v Speaker 1>case law, you know, years of Fourth Amendment, case law

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<v Speaker 1>has three levels of stops. So level three is when

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<v Speaker 1>you actually search someone. You go in their pockets, you

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<v Speaker 1>search in their waistband, a little bit more invasive. The

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<v Speaker 1>New York City Police Department already reports on those type

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<v Speaker 1>of interactions as to who we are stopping and frisking,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. The council passed a bill saying that now

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<v Speaker 1>level two and level one investigatory questions will have to

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<v Speaker 1>have the same basic treatment. So basically, if a level

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<v Speaker 1>one stop could be anything like, you know, an officer

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<v Speaker 1>going around with a picture of a missing kid saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>have you guys seen this girl? She's missing sin yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>If they go up to a group of people and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>have you seen this girl, that officer at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of his or her tour has to actually go back

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<v Speaker 1>and do paperwork one document for every person in the

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<v Speaker 1>group she encountered and say their race, their gender, their ethnicity,

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<v Speaker 1>and an explanation of why they ask them some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of investigatory question.

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<v Speaker 3>So it could be that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be you're a police officer doing what you're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be doing, you know, maybe going to a

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<v Speaker 1>street corner where there's a high perpensity for crime and

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<v Speaker 1>gang activity. Maybe you see a group of young males

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<v Speaker 1>and you decide to go up to them and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you guys doing here? You know, there's been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of complaints around here, you guys behaving. Those

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<v Speaker 1>sort of things that were for many years encouraged by

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<v Speaker 1>police departments to embrace that's called community policing, are It's

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<v Speaker 1>now going to be just ways to generate more bureaucratic paperwork,

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<v Speaker 1>wasting more hours of police officers time Level one stops.

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<v Speaker 1>There were something like eight point five million of them

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<v Speaker 1>in the City of New York last year, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking of hundreds upon hundreds and thousands of hours of

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<v Speaker 1>police work. The sad thing is this is also a

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<v Speaker 1>case where the Left just goes a little bit too far.

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<v Speaker 1>They're never satisfied, the police department said, if you actually

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<v Speaker 1>just limit this to level two stops, they said, basically, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's not that many Level two stops. They

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<v Speaker 1>are a little bit more intrusive, and we'd actually be

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<v Speaker 1>okay with this law. This is the direction the council

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<v Speaker 1>wants to go in. But for the left, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>no inch is good enough. They always want that mile.

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<v Speaker 1>And now they're putting basically the public in jeopardy by

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<v Speaker 1>requiring countless hours of nonsense every time an officer makes

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<v Speaker 1>a general question to mever of the public.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe, why do they want to do this? What's the

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<v Speaker 2>real reason?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think is behind trying to make it

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<v Speaker 2>so that cops have to do these level one stops

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<v Speaker 2>and record them.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's two schools of thought.

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<v Speaker 1>One is that police departments and police officers are inherently racist,

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<v Speaker 1>so we have to get to the bottom of who

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<v Speaker 1>they're stopping, who they're questioning, and why. And that's one view.

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<v Speaker 1>The other view is really even more extreme than that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that we don't want police officers to be engaged

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<v Speaker 1>in our neighborhoods. We want police officers to almost not

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<v Speaker 1>exist in the City of New Yorker in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of urban areas, and we're going to do everything we

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<v Speaker 1>possibly can to impede the works that police officers do,

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<v Speaker 1>because again going back to that first view, they're inherently racist, evil, fascist,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, boot licking the whole nine yards. So if

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<v Speaker 1>we can impede police officers, that's a win for the

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<v Speaker 1>violent and vocal left.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's meant possibly to just overwhelm the system. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when I had a friend who was working

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<v Speaker 2>in the New York Manhattan District Attorney's office. He said

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<v Speaker 2>that one of the things the activist, the anti cop

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<v Speaker 2>activist you know groups and you know, lawyers associations, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 2>we're very happy with was creating such a massive paperwork

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<v Speaker 2>burden on district attorneys that they end up they they

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<v Speaker 2>don't actually have the man hours to fill out the

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<v Speaker 2>paperwork to prosecute people for lesser offensive so they just

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<v Speaker 2>have to dismiss it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And we always talk about bail reform as sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the culprit of sort of the lawlessness that's happening

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<v Speaker 1>in New York's major cities. But you're right, So the

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<v Speaker 1>new discovery laws that were pasted the same time as

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<v Speaker 1>the bail reform laws are in some ways a lot worse,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're less assuming we even have a prosecutor that

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<v Speaker 1>wants to prosecute. Certainly not Alvin Bragg, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>other prosecutors in the other four boroughs who would like

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<v Speaker 1>to to sort of ramp up their enforcement. From time

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<v Speaker 1>to time, they have to make a choice, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do you allow prosecutor a do you allow them to

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<v Speaker 1>waste you know, eight hours of their working day filing discovery,

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<v Speaker 1>emotions and documentation for someone who's shoplifting or someone who

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<v Speaker 1>committed some sort of a violent felony. Obviously you're always

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go with the violence felon just about nine times

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<v Speaker 1>out of ten. But that just means that people that

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<v Speaker 1>are competing participating in repetitive, lower level crimes are just

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<v Speaker 1>simply getting away with it. So they're getting out on

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<v Speaker 1>no bail basically when they first get arrested because that's

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<v Speaker 1>the law. And then when it actually comes time for

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<v Speaker 1>them to show up in court, oftentimes these prosecutors, through

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<v Speaker 1>no fall of their own, in many cases, have to

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<v Speaker 1>plead down the case just because they can't possibly comply

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<v Speaker 1>with the discovery requirements of prosecuting this particular person.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to come back and ask you about how

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<v Speaker 2>things are going for the Adams Administration New York City,

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<v Speaker 2>And basically you're gonna have to tell me is it

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<v Speaker 2>in my fair city? Are they locking up criminals and

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<v Speaker 2>cleaning up the streets or what?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're making a few more arrests.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, Eric adams original in when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 1>people of New York City is the migrant crisis. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>now he's trying to back himself out of it, But

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<v Speaker 1>just eighteen months ago he was more than happy to

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<v Speaker 1>stand at the Port Authority bus terminal and smile and

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<v Speaker 1>greet people and promise them the entire world. Now, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>he's trying to to sort of reverse that trend and

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<v Speaker 1>get things under control, and a lot of people will

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<v Speaker 1>never ever ever forgive him for that on crime though

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<v Speaker 1>he really is not that bad.

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<v Speaker 3>We were just at a gallo the other night for.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the big real estate moguls of New York City,

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<v Speaker 1>a room full of billionaires and millionaires, and he leveled

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<v Speaker 1>into these people and he actually gave a really good

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<v Speaker 1>speech just talking about how nobody wants to come to

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<v Speaker 1>New York City when the first question everybody asks is

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<v Speaker 1>are the communities safe and the schools are good? And

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<v Speaker 1>he gave this whole thematic speech on how we have

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<v Speaker 1>to cut you know, obviously, you know, stop crime, and

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<v Speaker 1>the crime numbers in fairness are down since he took off,

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<v Speaker 1>so that is a good thing.

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<v Speaker 3>He's right to tout that.

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<v Speaker 1>However, you have a city council that's passing this bill

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<v Speaker 1>that we're talking about him tooth and nail. They also

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<v Speaker 1>passed the same day a ban on punitive segregation in

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<v Speaker 1>Rikers Island jail. So now someone who stabs someone on

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<v Speaker 1>video will essentially be put in a thirty minute timeout

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<v Speaker 1>rather than be put in a solitary cell where they

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<v Speaker 1>can't do themselves someone else or a correction officer armed.

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<v Speaker 1>They're actually going to give them the same punishment that

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<v Speaker 1>I give my eight year old when he says a

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<v Speaker 1>four little word.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is the city that, unfortunately he has

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<v Speaker 3>to navigate.

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<v Speaker 1>And I give him credit for finally, after eight years

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<v Speaker 1>of build a Blasio, finally saying the right things and

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on public safety as an issue. I just wish

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<v Speaker 1>we had a better system that he can allow the

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<v Speaker 1>NYPD to do their jobs. We're actually stuck right now

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<v Speaker 1>with state law where we have these you know, pro

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<v Speaker 1>hamas protesters shutting down airports and shutting down bridges, and

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<v Speaker 1>the NYPD is so restrained.

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<v Speaker 3>We met with their legal bureau the other day and

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<v Speaker 3>some of their chiefs.

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<v Speaker 1>They are so restrained as to what they can do

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<v Speaker 1>that even when you have someone that says, hey, let

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<v Speaker 1>let's push the envelope a little bit, let's be more aggressive,

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<v Speaker 1>the law is actually the limiting factor and not the

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<v Speaker 1>able factor.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens to people who block let's say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the George Washington Bridge or something. I mean, what actually

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<v Speaker 2>do they face as a as a punitive sanction in

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<v Speaker 2>New York?

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing?

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<v Speaker 1>At the very best, if they push a cop back

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<v Speaker 1>as they're being arrested, they get charged with an e felony,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a bail ineligible crime. Eventually, the prosecutors can't

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<v Speaker 1>keep up with discovery, so it'll be dismissed to a

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<v Speaker 1>disorderly conduct ticket and nothing will happen to them. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they have people We have heard these calls

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<v Speaker 1>with these liberal groups, you know, prepping the the advocates

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote who are going to protest, and they are

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<v Speaker 1>squared away with attorneys. They're ready to face any type

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<v Speaker 1>of prosecutor. They're ready to back you up in court,

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<v Speaker 1>ready to pay your fines. I mean, this is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of when we talk about the Soros funding of liberal violence.

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<v Speaker 1>The material result is that these people have lawyers, they

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<v Speaker 1>have access to money, the fines get paid, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing happens. I give credit to a prosecutor in Queen's

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<v Speaker 1>Melenda Cats. She's a progressive district attorney by every other

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<v Speaker 1>stretch of the imagination, but she pushed for federal charges

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<v Speaker 1>when people drudge block the JFK entrance ramps. And I

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<v Speaker 1>give her credit for that, for basically tying in a

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<v Speaker 1>federal crime of obstructing an airport or something of that nature.

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<v Speaker 1>So we do have some people pushing back, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>so limited. We don't move back.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't move back yet, All right, don't move back yet.

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<v Speaker 3>That's good.

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<v Speaker 2>What is this about a forty percent reduction in street

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<v Speaker 2>trash can pickups? I saw this in the post and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, God's going to get very smelly and very

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<v Speaker 2>messy very quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this was one of the cuts that Adams had

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<v Speaker 1>proposed to make with respect to the amount of money

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<v Speaker 1>we spend on migrants. So two things happened since that announcement.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, I think the governor got the message and

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<v Speaker 1>decided to give almost another billion dollars of state funding

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<v Speaker 1>to the city for the purpose of, you know, meeting

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<v Speaker 1>the need of needs the migrants. The other thing is

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<v Speaker 1>that the economy has recovered a little bit better, and

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<v Speaker 1>now we're predicting, like most economists around the country, more

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<v Speaker 1>of a soft landing as opposed to a recession. So

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<v Speaker 1>some of our projections, and rightfully so, we're based on

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<v Speaker 1>a worst case scenario that really hasn't materialized. So now

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<v Speaker 1>we can be a little bit more liberal with the money.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're starting to restore some of these cuts. But

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<v Speaker 1>going to like, you know, shorter basket pickup service would

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<v Speaker 1>have been horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>For most of New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have meant obviously more trash on the streets

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<v Speaker 1>for longer, although that adds up to rats and roaches.

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<v Speaker 3>And all sorts of things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad the mayor made this cut as the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of ration of the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's still a long way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>We're still facing budgetary headwinds just not as much as

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<v Speaker 1>we were about three months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's have you explain the migrant crisis as it affects

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<v Speaker 2>New York and the budget and everything else here in

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<v Speaker 2>just a second. But first up, speaking of budgets, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of us are struggling to keep up with everyday bills.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very expensive these days inflation. You see the cost

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<v Speaker 2>of goods, the things you need every day. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you own a home, there's something you can do. Call

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<v Speaker 2>my friends at American Financing. Interest rates have dropped into

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<v Speaker 2>the fives, the lowest they've been in a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're saving customers an average of eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty four dollars a month by tapping into their homes

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<v Speaker 2>equity and wiping out high interest credit card debt. Eight

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty four dollars a month is like a

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<v Speaker 2>ten thousand dollars raise. Credit card interest rates are insane,

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<v Speaker 2>and most of us are still carrying a balance from

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<v Speaker 2>the holidays. You can wipe that out now. Call American

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<v Speaker 2>Financing and you can take care of it. If you

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<v Speaker 2>call today, you may not have to make February's mortgage payment.

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<v Speaker 2>Call eight six six eight nine zero nine three nine two.

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<v Speaker 2>That's eight six six eight nine zero nine nine two.

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<v Speaker 2>American Financing dot net NMLS one A two three three

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<v Speaker 2>four mls Consumer Access dot Org APR for rates in

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<v Speaker 2>the five start at six point four zero six percent

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<v Speaker 2>for well qualified borrowers. Called eight six six eight nine

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<v Speaker 2>zero nine three nine two for details about credit costs

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<v Speaker 2>and terms. Migrant crisis. How bad is it? Where is

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<v Speaker 2>it going?

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<v Speaker 3>Joe?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's still an unsustainable situation. You know, even with

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<v Speaker 1>some of the cuts that were now restored by Mayor

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<v Speaker 1>Adams and his administration, we're still spending more per day

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<v Speaker 1>on migrants than we do on the Department of Sanitation

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<v Speaker 1>and the Parks Department to two pretty critical uh uh

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<v Speaker 1>city agencies, not just for our city but for any municipality.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh. Again, this is not something that can keep going

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<v Speaker 3>in the long term.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean so Mayor Adams has said it might it's

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<v Speaker 2>destroying the city. Is that fair?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I think it is fair.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we got lucky with the recession not panning

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<v Speaker 1>out and the governor giving more money, but it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>stop the problem. The problem is the spending and the

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<v Speaker 1>unrestricted spending that seems to be happening. You know they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing a decent job finally of giving sixty day eviction

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<v Speaker 1>notices to some of these people. I know it's working

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<v Speaker 1>because today, as we speak, some of my more liberal

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<v Speaker 1>colleagues are outstanding in front of some homeless shelter protesting

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<v Speaker 1>the mayor's sixty day eviction policy.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a good sign.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though we've received more than one hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand migrants at this point, right now, the population of

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<v Speaker 1>people under our care is down to about sixty eight thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that a lot of people are getting out

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<v Speaker 1>of the system.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really what we need to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, the mayor knows this and he won't say it,

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<v Speaker 1>but nothing's going to stop this until President Trump gets

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<v Speaker 1>re elected. President Trump committed last night that he'll steal

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<v Speaker 1>the border on day one. Nobody doubts that he will.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody doubts that the policies will change. I think a

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<v Speaker 1>little part of Eric Adams is probably hoping that either

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<v Speaker 1>Trump wins the election or that Biden, you know, finally

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<v Speaker 1>wakes up and sees the reaction that most of America's

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<v Speaker 1>large cities are facing problems larger than they've ever had.

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<v Speaker 3>Happened before as a direct result of a federal failure.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrell, everybody, New York City Council, the most famous

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<v Speaker 2>Staten Islander as far as I'm concerned. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>who else lives in Staten Island, but Joe BURRELLI is

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<v Speaker 2>mister Staten Island. And come, here's us down here in Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, you gotta come hang out.

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<v Speaker 3>We certainly will.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Brell, everybody. Good to see you, my friend.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you,