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Speaker 1: dollar truck and have at most two hundred dollars in

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Speaker 1: the bank. And I have a broken arm, two hundred

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Speaker 1: dollars in the bank, and I'm begging a guy with

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Speaker 1: a busted arm if I can continue to work at

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Speaker 1: a shipyard for seven bucks an hour. That's what my

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Speaker 1: life was like, it's unbelievable to me. You know, who

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Speaker 1: gets to think? Who gets the comfort in this country

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Speaker 1: of sitting in center walk and and laying out one's

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Speaker 1: blanket and pulling out one's painting basket, and and sipping

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Speaker 1: on champagne and and let's have a little cavey on

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Speaker 1: a little milk toast biscuit that we have brought with us.

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Speaker 1: We don't want to get fat, dooy like those average people?

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Speaker 1: And let us watch. Oh yes, it just moves me

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Speaker 1: to to words and expressions and emotions that I can't

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Speaker 1: even express to the average person. And the masses they

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Speaker 1: cannot accept the deep symbolism of the tragedy and the

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Speaker 1: relevancy of today. And look at the look at the deep,

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Speaker 1: deep abiding love between Romeo and Juliette. And do they

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Speaker 1: did they even know what century Sakespeare was even alive?

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Speaker 1: These these mere masses that eat McDonald's, that he pizza

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Speaker 1: all day, that they like Kentucky frogged chicken, and they

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Speaker 1: drink beer. Oh, I can't believe these people. Shakespeare in

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Speaker 1: the park, lay out your blanket, bring out the champagne.

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Speaker 1: Oh and that how dare they interrupt our play? How

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Speaker 1: dare they not accepted the assassination of Donald Trump? Is

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Speaker 1: It's not meaning But anyway, for one shot, I gotta

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Speaker 1: go to uh. We have a lot of other things

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Speaker 1: to get to today. I know it's fun. Let me

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Speaker 1: go back to Jade Johnson yesterday with Trey Gouty. No

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Speaker 1: evidence of collusion with the Trump camp and Russia. Listen

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Speaker 1: to listen to this. At the time you separated from

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Speaker 1: service in January seventeen, had you seen any evidence that uh,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump or any member of his campaign colluded, conspired

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Speaker 1: according aided with Russians or anyone else to infiltrade or

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Speaker 1: impact our local infrastructure. Um, not beyond what has been

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Speaker 1: out there open source, and not beyond anything that I'm

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Speaker 1: sure this committee has already seen and heard before directly

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Speaker 1: from the intelligence community. The only thing I'd have on

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Speaker 1: that is derivative of what the intelligence community has in

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Speaker 1: the law enforcement community. And of course we know the

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Speaker 1: intelligence community from Clapper and Come and Brennan and everybody

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Speaker 1: in between, and Feinstein and Mark Warner and Maxi Waters

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Speaker 1: and and you know everybody. It's unbelievable. No evidence of

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Speaker 1: collusion anyway, This goes on in the interview Johnson testifies

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Speaker 1: to Peter King that the d n C declined. I

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Speaker 1: think about this, The Department of Homeland Securities offered to

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Speaker 1: fight Russian hacking. Oh why did they not want the

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Speaker 1: FBI or the Department of Homeland Security and any way

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Speaker 1: to help them with their computers to keep them safe

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Speaker 1: from hacking? But yet they complain about hacking. And then

477
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Speaker 1: when Wiki leaks comes out, it's revealed that the Democrats

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Speaker 1: are up to their eyeballs and collusion to prevent Bernie

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Speaker 1: Sanders from ever getting the nomination. Everyone seems to forget

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Speaker 1: that part play it. Can you elaborate more on what

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Speaker 1: the DHS is uh connection with the d n C was.

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Speaker 1: Consultation with the d n C was after he became

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Speaker 1: aware of the hacking and they became aware of the

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Speaker 1: hacking as to what was offered them, what they accepted.

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Speaker 1: Was there any level of cooperation at all? Um? To

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Speaker 1: my disappointment, not to my knowledge, sir um. And this

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Speaker 1: is a question I asked repeatedly when I first learned

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Speaker 1: of it. You know, what are we doing? Are we

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Speaker 1: in there? Are we helping them discover the vulnerabilities? Because

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Speaker 1: this was fresh off the O. P. M. Experience, and

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Speaker 1: there was a point at which DHS cybersecurity experts did

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Speaker 1: get into O p M and actually helped them discover

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Speaker 1: the bad actors and patch some of the ex filtrations

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Speaker 1: or at least minimize some of the damage. And so

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Speaker 1: I was anxious to know whether or not our folks

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Speaker 1: were in there. And the response I got was FBI

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Speaker 1: had spoken to them, Uh, they don't want our help.

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Speaker 1: They have CrowdStrike the cybersecurity firm. And that was the

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Speaker 1: answer I got after I asked the question a number

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Speaker 1: of times over the progression of time, and that was

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Speaker 1: assumed totally different from the action you got from op M. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the O p M effort. We were actually in there

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Speaker 1: on site helping them, UM find the bad actors. Do

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Speaker 1: you know who it was at the d n C

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Speaker 1: who made that decision? Who was making I don't resistant.

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Speaker 1: Do you know if the FBI continued to try to help,

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Speaker 1: try to assist I have I've read in the New

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Speaker 1: York Times about those efforts, UM sometime earlier this year.

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Speaker 1: Didn't the FBI get a little let's see bitsy TTC

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Speaker 1: wingsy suspicious that maybe the Democrats have stuff on it

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Speaker 1: they don't want them to see and that's why they're

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Speaker 1: gonna bring in their own company. Why use the FBI

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Speaker 1: for free? Why use the Department of Homeland Security for free?

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Speaker 1: Why use some of the best cyber experts in the

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Speaker 1: entire world. Why would you use them unless you have

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Speaker 1: something to hide? And why did the FBI let them

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Speaker 1: get away with it? That's the bigger question. I am

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Speaker 1: more convinced, and I do this. This is now based

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Speaker 1: on my knowledge, my best guess. It's not a Rachel

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Speaker 1: Maddow or Chris Matthews Obama gasm thrill up my leg

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theory. But my best guess is that the Russians

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Speaker 1: in no way. Now, by the way, I have no

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Speaker 1: doubt that the Trump campaign would have loved at the

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Speaker 1: Russians had hacked into the d n C emails and

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Speaker 1: showed collusion with Bernie Sanders. I have no doubt if

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Speaker 1: I was on the Trump campaign, I'd want that information out.

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Speaker 1: I want the truth about who Hillary really was out.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that would not be any violation in

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Speaker 1: any way, shape, matter, or form of any law. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's not collusion either. There's no violation of law here.

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Speaker 1: And as J. Johnson testified not one vote again, not

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Speaker 1: one vote was in any way altered as a result

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Speaker 1: of Russian quote interference. But what would the collusion be about?

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Speaker 1: What that they would leak the information to wiki leaks? Well,

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Speaker 1: if if Hillary and the d n C they would

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Speaker 1: have let the FPI help protect their computers, and if

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Speaker 1: Hillary didn't put it in a mom and shop pop

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Speaker 1: shop bathroom closet, maybe they wouldn't find themselves in this position.

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Speaker 1: But I guess it became such a good conspiracy why

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Speaker 1: not go with it? And then on top of that,

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Speaker 1: then you got the the whole issue of Okay, Trump Russia.

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Speaker 1: My experience is telling me I have an interview Julian

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Speaker 1: Assange and the world doesn't take the time to listen

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Speaker 1: to him. It was not Russia, it was not a state.

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Speaker 1: My guess is that there were dissatisfied, disgruntled. This is

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Speaker 1: my best guess here, not a conspiracy, a guess and

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00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: an intelligent guess hypothesis based on conversations, information obviously deeper

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00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: digging than anything in law enforcement seems to be willing

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Speaker 1: to do or in the the destroy Trump media. My

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00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: guess is there are a lot of angry, disgruntled whistle

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Speaker 1: blowing truth tellers within the d n C that were there,

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Speaker 1: that that saw the collusion, that saw that the fix

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Speaker 1: was in against Bernie Sanders, that saw that there was

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Speaker 1: corruption at the highest levels, that saw that this, this

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Speaker 1: whole system was rigged, and they decided to do something

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Speaker 1: about it, which would then answer the question of where

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Speaker 1: Wiki leaks perhaps got its information from, which might explain

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Speaker 1: while Julian Assange a Dutch interview in my interview, he

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Speaker 1: said it was in Russia and a Dutch interview, he

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Speaker 1: didn't miss a beat. Our whistleblowers are they They they

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Speaker 1: take deep risks, by the way, let me tell you

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Speaker 1: about and he talked about Seth Ridge. Now I don't

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Speaker 1: know anything about Seth Rich in this sense, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't have any information about why it was murdered

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Speaker 1: except that it was suspicious and suspicious beating. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: a robbery, as they've claimed, But otherwise, why would you

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Speaker 1: not steal his waalle at his phone and and his

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Speaker 1: necklace or jewelry and watching everything else. But beyond that,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how I feel sorry for

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Speaker 1: that family. As I said, I don't know if he's

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Speaker 1: the one that leaked. But I would believe that has

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Speaker 1: to be some group of people in the d n

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Speaker 1: C that saw the corruption at Bernie. As for the

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Speaker 1: leaking to wiki leaks, that's what I think came from

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Speaker 1: disgruntled Democrats who I don't know. I have my suspicions.

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Speaker 1: As we roll along, Sean Hanny Show eight one, Seawan,

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Speaker 1: you want to be a part of this extravaganza. All right?

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Speaker 1: We have Congressman Mark Meadows well out the Freedom Caucus.

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Speaker 1: The health care bill that got sent to the Senate

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Speaker 1: never would have happened. Now it's not gonna be perfect.

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Speaker 1: We have Rand paul Is opposing it, along with Jake

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Speaker 1: john Senator Johnson of Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, and Ted

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Speaker 1: Cruz and Mike Lee, and they're trying to make the

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Speaker 1: proper improvements to this, and one of them is, we

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Speaker 1: don't want an expansion of a new government entitlement program. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we'll check in with Mark Meadows. He also wants Congress

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Speaker 1: to stay in session, and he says, who's going to

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Speaker 1: investigate all these investigators? He's right, let's look in the

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Speaker 1: Lynch and Comey and Mueller and uh, how about Hillary too?

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Speaker 1: You can't do it politically, you just literally cannot do it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: transparent financing, and let's how transparent financing has transparent spending.

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Speaker 1: I mean the this bill was written in a tortured

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Speaker 1: way to make sure CBO did not score the mandates taxes.

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Speaker 1: Is CBO scored the mandates taxes to build dies Okay,

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Speaker 1: So it's written to do that in terms of in

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Speaker 1: terms of rist rated subsidies, to get a law which

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Speaker 1: said healthy people are going to pay in it made

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Speaker 1: explicit the healthier paying and see people get money. It

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Speaker 1: would not have passed, okay, just like the people transparent

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Speaker 1: lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically,

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Speaker 1: you know, called the stupidity the American voter or whatever,

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Speaker 1: but basically that was really really critical to get any

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Speaker 1: thing to pass. And you know, it's the second best argument. Look,

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Speaker 1: I wish Marcu's right and we can make it all transparent,

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Speaker 1: but I'd rather have this law than not. So it's

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Speaker 1: kind of like his reporter story, you know, Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: things I wish you could change, but I'd rather have

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Speaker 1: this law than not. If you read the Affordable Care Act,

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Speaker 1: and I recommend you do not, but if you do

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Speaker 1: read the Affordable Care Act, all right, So the first

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Speaker 1: question is one of the biggessumptions here, which is people

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Speaker 1: are getting crushed by high premiums. You like to make

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Speaker 1: a case that you need to define who they is

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Speaker 1: and what the reality of the facts are. What's your pushback. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you look at premiums, it is the case that

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Speaker 1: they've gone up, but under President Obama they've gone up

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Speaker 1: much slower than they did under President Bush. Under President Bush,

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Speaker 1: insurance premiums for people in employer sponsored coverage went up

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Speaker 1: over his eight years. Under President Obama they went up

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Speaker 1: thirty five substantially less, they still did go up. And

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Speaker 1: I agree we need to control healthcare costs. They're too high. That, however,

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Speaker 1: requires a lot of work. It's much harder. There's no

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Speaker 1: magic bullet. You need multiple approaches, mainly to reducing how

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Speaker 1: much people are hospitalized, how much they go to the

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Speaker 1: emergency room, the prices we pay for things like hip

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Speaker 1: implants or stens or drugs. That is a complex process

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Speaker 1: that requires paying doctors differently, paying hospitals differently, making them

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Speaker 1: change deliver care. You know, stunning. I guess if we

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Speaker 1: go back in time here studying admissions Jonathan Gruber, and

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Speaker 1: listen to what he's saying here. Well, of course there's

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Speaker 1: a lack of transparency. We couldn't write this with transparency,

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Speaker 1: you'd never get passed. And so we had to do

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Speaker 1: it this way because this was the right way to

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Speaker 1: do it. And and certainly, you know, if we did

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Speaker 1: it and it wrote in a transparent way, and you

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Speaker 1: know the mandate on taxes was written the way it

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Speaker 1: should have been written, well the bill dies. And the

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Speaker 1: lack of transparency is really important because you know what

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Speaker 1: we're playing on the advantage of the stupidity of the

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Speaker 1: American people. And you know, the stupidity the American people's crucial.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, don't read the bill. And then

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Speaker 1: Ezekiel Emmanuel, Yeah, of course, premiums have gone up in

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Speaker 1: spite of what was a narrative and a lie and

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Speaker 1: a talking point that was expressed by every Democrat. You

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Speaker 1: like your doctor, you keep your doctor, like your plan,

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Speaker 1: you keep your plan. On average, the average family will

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Speaker 1: say twenty five dollars per family per year. Now, there

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Speaker 1: are some obstacles now emerging with the release of the

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Speaker 1: healthcare bill in the Senate today. We have four senators

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson, we have Texas Senator Ted Cruz,

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Speaker 1: Kentucky Senator Ram Paul, Utah Senator Mike Lee. They said

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Speaker 1: that in its current form it's not good enough for them.

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Speaker 1: They're willing to negotiate changes. It's a about time that

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Speaker 1: the Senate now has to do their job and a

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Speaker 1: little slow in the making for my particular taste, but

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Speaker 1: I guess it's better late than never. And joining us.

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Speaker 1: He was at the forefront of getting the bill in

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Speaker 1: the House passed, and he is the chairman of the

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Speaker 1: Freedom Caucus. Good front of ours. Congressman Mark Meadows in

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Speaker 1: North Carolina, how are you. I'm doing well, Sean. It's

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Speaker 1: great to be with you, and you obviously know more

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Speaker 1: about the whole negotiating back and forth and how difficult

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Speaker 1: it is. But we still have some work to do.

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Speaker 1: But I'm optimistic that we're the One thing that we're

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Speaker 1: going to do is we're gonna be transparent in the

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Speaker 1: fact that Obamacare doesn't work and it's time that we

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Speaker 1: repeal it and replace it with something that does. We're

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Speaker 1: not there yet, but I can tell you in talking

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Speaker 1: to some of my Senate colleagues that you just mentioned about.

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Speaker 1: They're in a good frame of mind that they're willing

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Speaker 1: to negotiate and get us across the finish line with

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Speaker 1: just a few minor changes. I think that should be

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Speaker 1: acceptable to at least fifty one senator. Okay, so let's

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Speaker 1: get to that point. What are the main obstacles, because

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Speaker 1: I know when you were busy on behalf when that bill,

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Speaker 1: when the vote was pulled on that Friday. I remember

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Speaker 1: talking to you that Friday and through that that subsequent weekend,

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Speaker 1: and there was a lot of blame being late at

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Speaker 1: the foot of the Freedom Caucus, which I felt was

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Speaker 1: unfair at the time, and I said so on air

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Speaker 1: and off air a lot of different people, But ultimately

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Speaker 1: it was you who initiated a lot of the discussions

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Speaker 1: with the Tuesday group and the study group and the

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Speaker 1: drinking group and the you know, abstaining group, and I mean,

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Speaker 1: but really you were talking to everybody, and it took

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of push and pull to

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Speaker 1: get this thing done. I know it wasn't ultimately everything

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Speaker 1: you wanted, but you believe a good start. I do.

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Speaker 1: I think it was a good start. Obviously, some of

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Speaker 1: the things that the Senate did does improve what we

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Speaker 1: sent over from the House. And uh, as I look

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Speaker 1: at that, you know, I want to be very careful

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Speaker 1: to not just throw everybody under the bus. That being said,

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Speaker 1: now at the time that you roll up your sleeves,

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Speaker 1: if you're a senator, I can tell you that Senator

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Speaker 1: Cruz and Lee, and Rand Paul and Ron Johnson, I

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Speaker 1: talked to you yesterday. I think all of them are

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Speaker 1: willing to roll up their sleeves and say, here are

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Speaker 1: two or three things that we can do. So one

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Speaker 1: of those is the whole medicaid issue. Is allow governors

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Speaker 1: to have the flexibility to use those Medicaid dollars that

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Speaker 1: best suit their state needs, don't have a one size

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Speaker 1: fits all from the federal government. The other is that

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Speaker 1: competition across state lines. Because of the way that they've

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Speaker 1: changed these subsidies in the Senate bill, we should be

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Speaker 1: able to get competition across state lines and further use

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Speaker 1: of hs a's. And then, lastly, perhaps the most important

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Speaker 1: to me is what I call the Ted Cruz Consumer

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Speaker 1: Choice Amendment. It allows you to have an Obamacare plan

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Speaker 1: and a non Obamacare plan offered in the same state,

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Speaker 1: but still qualify for some of the subsidies. If we

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Speaker 1: gave consumers that freedom of choice, then ultimately it will

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Speaker 1: drive down premium. So those three things would would go

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Speaker 1: a long ways to building consensus. Okay, Now, you were

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Speaker 1: in very close contact and conversations with some of the

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Speaker 1: senators you mentioned. I know that you were talking to

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Speaker 1: Senator Cruz and when you were in the middle of

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Speaker 1: your negotiations, and I know you talked to Mike Lee,

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Speaker 1: and I know you talked to Ram Paul. Right, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure all of them without and they and they

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Speaker 1: know some of the tough stuff. Sean, I can tell

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Speaker 1: you this. It's not just there. I mean, we had

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Speaker 1: good conversations with Senator Thune and Senator Danes and some

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Speaker 1: that you would not normally, uh think that we could

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Speaker 1: find common ground with. It's all about being all hands

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Speaker 1: on deck to do that. But to suggest that this

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Speaker 1: bill will find consensus in its format today would not

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Speaker 1: be accurate. But also I think that we can get

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Speaker 1: there with the amendment process between now and next Thursday.

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Speaker 1: One are the big differences that you see. Do you

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Speaker 1: see overall an improvement in the House bill or do

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Speaker 1: you see that it's not as good as the House

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Speaker 1: bill overall. Uh, there are some aspects of it that

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Speaker 1: are better in that the net premiums for those that

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Speaker 1: are in their fifties and sixties. So some of your

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Speaker 1: listeners that you have, uh right now, if you're about

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Speaker 1: to be in your fifties or sixties, Uh, why are

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Speaker 1: you making fun of my age like that? You know?

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Speaker 1: Did you just I can't believe it. I know, I

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Speaker 1: can tell you. I mean, I'm fifty, I'm fifty eight

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Speaker 1: years old, I'm on Obamacare. I am looking forward to

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Speaker 1: the fact that you want premiums would come down. Yeah, no, listen,

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Speaker 1: this is one of the most important issues for people,

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Speaker 1: and they listen. In fairness, the American people were just

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Speaker 1: lied to royally. And when you listen to Jonathan Gruber

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Speaker 1: and Ezekiel Emmanuel, it's like they all knew it was

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Speaker 1: one big lie and they were counting on quote the

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Speaker 1: stupidity American people. It's it's a level of deception and

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Speaker 1: arrogance that really bothers me when they're supposed to be

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Speaker 1: the servants of the American people. And I like the transparency.

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Speaker 1: If your guess is is that whatever comes out of

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Speaker 1: the Senate that in conference. Do you think it's all

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Speaker 1: going to be negotiated and put on the President's desk.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get this over the finish line. Well, we

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Speaker 1: will put it over the finish line and get it

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Speaker 1: to the president's desk. The question is is will it

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Speaker 1: go to conference. I'm hearing from some of our leadership

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Speaker 1: they're not inclined to allow it to go to conference.

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Speaker 1: So uh, phone calls have been made to some of

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Speaker 1: our our senators to make sure that they understand where

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Speaker 1: we are. But this is the Senate process. You know,

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Speaker 1: we wouldn't expect them to interfere in ours. We're not

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Speaker 1: going to infere interfere in theirs. But they need to

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Speaker 1: know that if it's going to be a binary choice

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Speaker 1: coming back, what is important. And so I think if

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Speaker 1: you can make it conservative enough to pick up the

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Speaker 1: Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Rand Paul, and and Ron Johnson,

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Speaker 1: then there will not be a problem on the House

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Speaker 1: side as it comes back. Based on the text that

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Speaker 1: I'm reading a Hunter Preaty two pages, I would encourage

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Speaker 1: everyone to read it, especially my colleagues, before they start

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Speaker 1: talking about how good or bad it is. Now, both

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Speaker 1: you and Jim Jordan's and your fellow Freedom Caucus members.

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Speaker 1: And I'll be perfectly honest, if it weren't for you

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Speaker 1: guys in the House, I don't know if anyone would

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Speaker 1: even come on my program anymore. I mean, there's not

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Speaker 1: a lot of love for the show by the leadership

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Speaker 1: in the House. Well, there's a lot of love by

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Speaker 1: by the listeners out there, because you know what you speak,

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Speaker 1: the truth. You don't tell Jonathan Grooper's transparent. That's not

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Speaker 1: who I am, sir, and about I got to meet

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Speaker 1: your wife yesterday. I gave a little talk to the

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Speaker 1: Congressional wives luncheon and that was a really good time.

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Speaker 1: And I think you married way up, which is very

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Speaker 1: good for you. I did, but she she said that

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Speaker 1: you knocked it out of the park. She came back

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Speaker 1: about dragging about Sean Hannity, So uh, I thought that

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Speaker 1: I thought what they'd throw me out because I'm not

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Speaker 1: exactly as I'm a little more irreverent at times than

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Speaker 1: I should be, not as always appropriate as I should be.

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Speaker 1: But I gotta give you guys credit. You just too

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Speaker 1: things that you're working on that I fully support. One

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Speaker 1: is no August recess. Get the work done. Stay and

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Speaker 1: do the work of the American people. I know it's

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Speaker 1: gaining momentum, and we're gonna start as a Monday. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna put on my website those who are willing to

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Speaker 1: stay and those who are not. And the other thing

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Speaker 1: is both you and Jim Jordans co authored to Peace.

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Speaker 1: I know it's up on Fox News dot com that says,

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Speaker 1: get the special counsel, but not Hillary of the I

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Speaker 1: R s it's time to investigate the investigators. I want

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Speaker 1: to ask you about both of those things when we

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Speaker 1: get back. It's our two of the Sean Hannity Show.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred nine for one, Shaun is a number if

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Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program. We'll

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Speaker 1: check in with Governor Scott Walker later in the program. Uh.

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Speaker 1: We'll also try and get ahold of Rampaulicy what he

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Speaker 1: thinks of all of this. We'll take a quick break,

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Speaker 1: we'll come back, will continue eight nine one Sean, you

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Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program. More with

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Speaker 1: Mark Meadows straight ahead and as we continue Sean Hannity Show.

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Speaker 1: He is the chairman of the Freedom Caucus. They are

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Speaker 1: the conservative basically stalwarts in the House of Representatives and

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Speaker 1: I would say that we would not have had a

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Speaker 1: healthcare repeal bill or not for them guiding this through

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Speaker 1: the House. Now it's working its way through the Senate

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Speaker 1: as they have released their version today. On two other matters,

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Speaker 1: you're saying to members of the House and Senate, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we take enough vacation. We're not getting enough done and

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Speaker 1: a good and a good enough period of time to

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Speaker 1: serve the American people on the economy and all these

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Speaker 1: other issues. Let's stay in session, and you and Jim

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Speaker 1: Jordan's co author piece about investigating the investigators we did.

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Speaker 1: We think it's time one to get the people's agenda,

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Speaker 1: the real work done, UH, and stay in in August

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Speaker 1: like many other people, to actually pass legislation and support

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Speaker 1: the president, the president's agenda, and really all about what

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Speaker 1: matters to to UH, the citizens of this great country.

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Speaker 1: They expected to get done. So August shouldn't be a

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Speaker 1: special time of necessarily taking off. We need to stay

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Speaker 1: here to get it done. One of the things that

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Speaker 1: we could get done, Sean, is to start investigating the investigators.

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Speaker 1: As you mentioned Jordan's UH and I have have a

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Speaker 1: an op ed that really talks about just some of

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Speaker 1: the troubling trends that we see with the Special Council

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Speaker 1: Mueller and his defense of Director Kelly Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is an outrage to me. Number one, the conflicts

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Speaker 1: of interest, Number two, the fact that he leaked for

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Speaker 1: the purpose of getting a special counsel. Number three, it

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Speaker 1: becomes his BFF as best friend in the world. He

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Speaker 1: also coordinated with Comy's testimony. Then you got Rosenstein, who

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Speaker 1: had recommended Comey's firing. Now we move off the issue

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Speaker 1: of Russia Trump collusion because today there's been no evidence

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Speaker 1: of it. Well, let's now start talking about Well, is

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Speaker 1: that obstruction? Uh, let's now talk about finances of people.

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Speaker 1: And it seems to just keep spreading and spreading, and

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Speaker 1: then felonies that we know we're committed by Hillary and

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Speaker 1: that is the mishandling of emails, top secret classified special

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Speaker 1: access program, the destruction of such and the lying and

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Speaker 1: cover up on these issues gets ignored. Lauretta Lynch's obstruction

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Speaker 1: gets ignored. Well, you're right, and and here's the interesting

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Speaker 1: thing is this is the type of unequal justice that

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Speaker 1: the American people despise. You know, there was no special

854
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Speaker 1: counsel when we looked at the i r S targeting

855
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Speaker 1: UH and that investigation. There was no special counsel for

856
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: the Clinton email investigation, but when it came to protecting

857
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: Mr Comey's reputation, he'd leaked something out so that indeed

858
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Speaker 1: there would be a special council set up to investigate

859
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: the president just for his own edification. I see a

860
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: real problem with that and the hypocrisy of it. So

861
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: it's time that we start to look at it and

862
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Speaker 1: Mr Mueller's team. Wouldn't you think that he could find

863
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Speaker 1: a team that we're not max out donors to Democrats.

864
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just beyond comprehension when we start to

865
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Speaker 1: see it, and UH, and it smells like a lot

866
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Speaker 1: of other things in Washington, d C. All Right, now

867
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Speaker 1: we're going to We're not going to announce the date yet,

868
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Speaker 1: but pretty soon we will have an announcement. I'm I'm

869
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Speaker 1: going to be going to Congressman Mark Meadows District and

870
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Speaker 1: we're going to be doing an event together. Um, and

871
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 1: it's we're gonna try and make it a pretty big

872
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: blowout event. We're going to invite some special guests and

873
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like a town hall style and I

874
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: guess liberal snowflakes can come and protest if they want, right, Well,

875
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: you know we we would love to have you, and

876
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Speaker 1: you want to do it by invitation, so gracious, and

877
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: let me just say you you know we'll we'll let

878
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: you come to Red Country. I don't think the snowflakes

879
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,959
Speaker 1: would have a place. We have have a whole lot

880
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: of of Americans who love this country and love this president.

881
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: We look forward to having you in western North Carolina. Well,

882
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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. It's a state I'm particularly

883
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Speaker 1: fond of, as you know. And I know you've got

884
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Speaker 1: a son that go to school there, and so we

885
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: we just love you. And uh, and we smarter than

886
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: I am. He got out of New York, he's down

887
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. So much figures right. Well, we we

888
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: just really appreciate all you do, this stand up for

889
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: freedom and liberty and free speech. Sean, Uh, you know,

890
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: God bless you, my friend, you two, and uh, I

891
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: know how hard and fellow Freedom Caucus members are working.

892
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: And really you're the go to guys for those of

893
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: us that are conservative that I know are fighting to

894
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: try and hold the line as tightly as you can.

895
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: Who would have thunk it that a hundred Republicans never

896
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Speaker 1: had any real intention of repealing and replacing Obamacare, and

897
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: you had to overcome that obstacle. Uh pretty daunting. Thank you, sir,

898
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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Eight nine one Shawn Tolfree telephone number. Senator

899
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: Ran Paul one of the four Senators now saying they

900
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Speaker 1: cannot support the Senate version released today on repeal and replace.

901
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: I'll talk to him about that and much more, and

902
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: then later on Jonathan Gillham rick On will check in

903
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: and Governor Scott Walker all coming up. Insurance giant United

904
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: Health Group dealt a blow to the Affordable Care Act

905
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Speaker 1: on Thursday when it warned that it may stop offering

906
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Speaker 1: insurance plans to individuals through the public exchanges established by

907
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: the reform law. One of the nation's largest health insurers,

908
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: United Help, has announced that they will exit out of

909
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: most Obamacare exchanges starting next year. They will only operate

910
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: in a handful of states. Anthem is one of the

911
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: two providers that is exiting the marketplace for We received

912
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 1: the announcement from Fromanna yesterday like the rest of the nation,

913
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Speaker 1: that Humanity was pulling out a nationwide for health insurance exchanges.

914
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 1: Babacures insurance exchanges are losing major insurance companies, leaving many

915
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: US counties with only one or two health plan choices.

916
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: Company Etna says it's pulling out of the health exchanges

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Speaker 1: set up by the Affordable Care Act in eleven of

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Speaker 1: the fifteen states, including North Carolina. To worring development is

919
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Speaker 1: the decision by several large insurers, including Etna and United Health,

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Speaker 1: to pull out of the Many of the exchanges, and

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Speaker 1: many of the nonprofit copp insurers formed after the lost

922
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Speaker 1: passage have also failed. All right, I'm glad you want

923
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Speaker 1: us twenty five now till the top of the hour

924
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Speaker 1: that couple with Jonathan Gruber, which we played at the

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Speaker 1: top of the last hour with Mark Meadows of the

926
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Speaker 1: Freedom Caucus, and you've got to wonder. So we're in

927
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Speaker 1: a situation where, okay, the healthcare bill, Obamacare, we were

928
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Speaker 1: l to, we were manipulated the count it unquote the

929
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Speaker 1: stupidity of the American people. Millions lost their plans, their doctors,

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Speaker 1: and of course Americans didn't saved dollars per family per year.

931
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Speaker 1: They ended up on average paying eight thousand dollars more.

932
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: Now in the Senate, they have released their bill today

933
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Speaker 1: Senator Ted Cruz, Senator Ram Paul, Senator Mike Lee, Senator

934
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: Ron Johnson all said they cannot support the current rendition

935
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Speaker 1: of the Senate's Obamacare replacement bill on its current form,

936
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Speaker 1: but they suggested that they could change it in a

937
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 1: few ways if amendments are included that they would support.

938
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Speaker 1: Ted Cruz said he can't yet support the bill, and

939
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Speaker 1: he said in a statement joint statement with Johnson and

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Speaker 1: Lee and Ram Paul, currently for a variety of reasons,

941
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: we're not ready to vote for this bill, but we

942
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: are open to negotiation and obtaining more information before it's

943
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: brought to the floor. Now, the Senate Majority leader McConnell

944
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Speaker 1: wanted to vote on this sometime next week, as fellow

945
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Speaker 1: Kentucky Senator Ran Paul is with us, how are you Frey,

946
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Speaker 1: good John thanks for having me now. We're never gonna

947
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Speaker 1: get full repeal. What's just a fact. Bill wasn't full

948
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: repeal and we had, you know, the most frustrating part

949
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: of this to me was in the House. You had

950
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: over a hundred Congressmen that we learned rhino weak, spineless

951
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: Republicans that said one thing and meant another. They had

952
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: no intention of ever repealing and replacing fully Obamacare. So

953
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: that's frustrating. But that said, thanks, you know, for goodness,

954
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: sexually have to repeal some of it. I mean, the

955
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: current bill actually keeps all of the Obamacare subsidies, and

956
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 1: we're working on the numbers right now, but we think

957
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Speaker 1: it actually may spend more in federal subsidies in Obamacare.

958
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Speaker 1: We think in the next year or two that this

959
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: new plan, the Republican plan, may be more expensive than

960
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: Obamacare over the next two years. Okay, so the next

961
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Speaker 1: is it part of the transitioning costs. So you're saying

962
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Speaker 1: overall long term, but the reason one reason that costs

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Speaker 1: more is they're keeping all the Medicaid expansion for like

964
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 1: another three years. In fact, they let new people enroll

965
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: and there is no payment for it. In fact, we're

966
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Speaker 1: getting rid of the taxes that pay for it. So

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Speaker 1: I'm all for eliminating the taxes, but it's not really

968
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 1: good sense to eliminate the taxes and keep the spending

969
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: three years. They're going to do that way. If they

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00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: got rid of that part of it, would that be

971
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: Would that bring you a long way to supporting it

972
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: or not? It's a it's a big start in the

973
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 1: right direction. But it's not only that they're letting people

974
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Speaker 1: expand there is no end to the Medicaid expansion. And

975
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: the thing is is, if we're honest with ourselves, if

976
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Speaker 1: people really wanted medicaid expansion, we should pay for it.

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00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 1: You know, I've told people in Kentucky you could double

978
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: the state income tax, double the sales tax. Of course

979
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: would be at a great disadvantage with Tennessee. Then, but

980
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: if you really want Medicaid expansion, pay for it. But

981
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have it. And then just say we're gonna

982
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: borrow more money for it, because we're gonna destroy the

983
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: whole country borrowing money to pay for new entitlement programs. Well,

984
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: where are you in terms of talking to leadership? I mean,

985
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: you have as much access to Mitch McConnell as anybody.

986
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: I think the conversation begins in earnest. Now that there

987
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: are four of us, four of us means they can't

988
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: pass it without at least a couple of us deciding

989
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: to accept some changes to the bill. But by ourselves

990
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: we have no power. Four people together, we now have

991
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: some power to influence a bill. So far we have

992
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: had no influence on the bill. But we just announced

993
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: an hour ago. So our hope is that the four

994
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: of us will now get an audience with those who

995
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: are writing the bill, and we will say this is

996
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 1: what we want in exchange for consideration of your bill.

997
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: So basically, you're saying the same horrible process, top down

998
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: leadership only, establishment only. I guess collaboration exists until they

999
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: can't ram it down your throat, then you get invited

1000
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: in it. I mean, is that really any way to run?

1001
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: This is too important to let them do it to us,

1002
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: you know, for you. When I came up here, I said,

1003
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: we ought to read the damn bills before we vote

1004
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: on them. And I have legislation that says we should

1005
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: wait one day for every twenty pages of legislations. That

1006
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 1: would be about seven working days for this bill we're

1007
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: gonna get. If we get the CBS go on Monday,

1008
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 1: and we get the final language on Monday or Tuesday,

1009
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna vote twenty four hours later. Twenty four hours

1010
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: is not even using a CBO score anymore, considering they're all,

1011
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: you know, billions and trillions of dollars almost every time,

1012
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: isn't it rather useless and outdated? And antiquated. Well, CBO

1013
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: is terrible at estimating who will buy insurance there and

1014
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: so far off they're not worth looking at. However, if

1015
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 1: they're telling you how much a refundable tax credit costs

1016
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: and how much spending will be in medicaid, actually better

1017
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: at that. And so I do want to see how

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00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: much it estimates that we will spend in medicaid and

1019
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: how much we're going to give away. And it is

1020
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: very important to me because if this bill spends more

1021
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: than Obamacare, I can't touch it with a ten foot poll.

1022
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: And it's also not repeal if it actually spends more. Yeah,

1023
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: well I agree with that too, But is it do

1024
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: you actually you know what always happens. You always get

1025
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: the tax increase, you never get the spending cuts. All right,

1026
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a three year period, But does it

1027
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: ever go away? Because you and I both know future

1028
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: Congresses will say, well, let's just keep doing it, let's

1029
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 1: just keep spending. Let's not take away that money, because

1030
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 1: then Democrats will go out there and demonize it. If

1031
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it, you might as well do it right,

1032
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: and you might as well do it at the beginning.

1033
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: I don't understand the process of phasing it out. Well,

1034
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: the interesting thing is is Medicaid expansion will never go

1035
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: away into this bill. Everybody that signs up new for

1036
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: Medicaid in the next three years, and all expansion states,

1037
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 1: they're all allowed to stay. Now, Gradually the state will

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00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: have to go back to paying the normal split the

1039
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: state paced part of it, in the federal government based

1040
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: part of it, but they'll be allowed to keep the expansion.

1041
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: So the interesting thing is is that we're really not

1042
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Speaker 1: getting rid of the Medicaid expansion. We're actually keeping it.

1043
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: So Medicaid expansion was a big part of Obamacare, we're

1044
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: keeping it. One of the great insetives to get governors

1045
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: like Tasic in Ohio to support this thing was that

1046
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: money tax subsidies were a big part of Obamacare. We're

1047
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: keeping them too. Um having a high risk pool that's

1048
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: paid for by the federal government. These were called risk

1049
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: orders under Obamacare. They're called stabilization fund under the Republican plan.

1050
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: But here's the point, Sean. I mean, if you had

1051
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: cars being too expensive and everybody's complaining they couldn't get

1052
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: a new car, I can bring down the price of

1053
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: cars by having a hundred billion dollars stabilization fund for cars,

1054
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: and the price for cars will go down. But that's

1055
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: not America. That's not freedom, that's not free enterprise, it's

1056
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: not free markets. That's just basically good old fashioned big

1057
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: government that we used to think Republicans were opposed to.

1058
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: You know, well, what about the options that you and

1059
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Speaker 1: I have discussed at length here the You know, for example,

1060
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Speaker 1: my buddy Josh Umber who is with this cooperative that

1061
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: he created where it's fifty bucks a month for an

1062
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: adult and it's unlimited care and ten bucks a month

1063
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: for a child. And you and I both know under

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Speaker 1: Obamacare it's illegal to buy a catastrophic plan that would

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Speaker 1: now be legal. Does this create the option the availability

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Speaker 1: of these cooperatives to spring up around the country, which

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Speaker 1: is basically Conciator's service for for blue collar workers. Does

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Speaker 1: it allow healthcare savings accounts to now be part of

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Speaker 1: the equation for most people? There are twelve key regulations

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Speaker 1: in Obamacare. This bill repeals two out of twelve. But

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Speaker 1: you didn't answer my questions. Is this paved the way

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Speaker 1: for the cooperatives and health savings that there is going

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Speaker 1: to be some good language in there that will be

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Speaker 1: what I've been talking about trying to expand the health associations,

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Speaker 1: so that is a good thing. There will be some

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Speaker 1: expansion of hs A S in it, so those are

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Speaker 1: good things. So there are also repeal of taxes. That's

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Speaker 1: a good thing. So there are several things in the

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Speaker 1: bill that are good. But on balance, as somebody who

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Speaker 1: cares very deeply about the deficit, even if there are

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Speaker 1: some good things in it, and I love getting rid

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Speaker 1: of taxes, but if we're keeping so much spending that

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00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: it actually adds to the deficit or will make the

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Speaker 1: deficit worse over time, that's a problem. Yeah, well I agree.

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Speaker 1: I don't hear you getting to yes on this bill.

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Speaker 1: I've known you a lot of years. I don't hear

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Speaker 1: yes coming from Rampaul in this bill. If they're willing

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00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: to negotiate in a serious way, we could because I've

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Speaker 1: told them, look, I'm for a hundred percent repeal, but

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Speaker 1: i'll set over repeal. But right now, we're not repealing

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Speaker 1: any of the tax subsidies. So the tax subsidies were

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Speaker 1: keeping nearly a hundred percent, maybe even over a we're

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Speaker 1: creating a new federal pro Graham, the cost sharing subsidies

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Speaker 1: that we all said, oh, we're not going to fund these,

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Speaker 1: We're going to fund them in there. So I mean

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Speaker 1: we are really keeping large segments of Obamacare. We really

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Speaker 1: aren't being Repelling the Obamacare taxes and then continuing the

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00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: subsidies for you is just the heal killer. We get

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Speaker 1: rid of the taxes, keep the spending, but that's not

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Speaker 1: repealing Obamacare. It's a whimpy way out. It's Obamacare light.

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Speaker 1: There are other little good things in there, like banning

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Speaker 1: the use of federal funds for abortions, repealing the mandate

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Speaker 1: that individuals are required to buy it, repealing the mandate

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Speaker 1: that employers must provide it, you know, protecting pre exists

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Speaker 1: and conditions. Everyone agrees on that. The problem, though, Sean,

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Speaker 1: is that if you get rid of the individual mandate,

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Speaker 1: but you still still tell people they can buy insurance

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Speaker 1: after they get sick, they do. And that's what's the

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Speaker 1: deskpotle of Obamacare is healthy people don't boy because it's

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Speaker 1: too expensive. Sick people get it, and it becomes a

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00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: pool of sick people and the price goes through the roof.

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Speaker 1: That is, you know, in your intro to the program,

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Speaker 1: you talked about all the rates going up and all

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Speaker 1: the companies leaving under the Republican plan still will continue.

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Speaker 1: They're going to stabilize it by printing up federal money

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Speaker 1: and giving a hundred thirty billion dollars to insurance companies.

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Speaker 1: But like I said, we could do that for education too.

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Speaker 1: Do we want to say education is expensive? Let's have

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Speaker 1: an education stabilization fund, a car stabilization fund, and iPhone

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Speaker 1: and stabilization fund. I don't want to work anymore. I

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Speaker 1: think I deserve a house, a car, a government car.

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Speaker 1: I think I deserve government healthcare, daycare. I think I

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Speaker 1: need somebody to bathe me, a government healthcare provider, just

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Speaker 1: for my own personal comforts in life, because it's a

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Speaker 1: cradle to grave wounded tomb, you know, just utopia wealth

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Speaker 1: transfer wealth transfer program that in many ways is what

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Speaker 1: has gotten us into the position we are in, and

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Speaker 1: without free market solutions here as the highlight of this bill.

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Speaker 1: I think we're making a mistake like you do Well,

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Speaker 1: And that's what disappoints me about this. You know, Republicans,

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Speaker 1: at least a huge bunch of them, they know they've

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Speaker 1: never had any intention of repealing Senator Well they have.

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Speaker 1: They have insufficient confidence in free insufficient confidence capitalism. Uh,

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Speaker 1: competition in the free market is why our country is

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Speaker 1: a great country, richest, greatest country in the history of

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Speaker 1: mankind because of freedom, competition, capitalism. But if you're not

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Speaker 1: going to allow that in healthcare and you're gonna do

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Speaker 1: some kind of wimpy form of Obamacare, light, I'm afraid

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01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: what we're gonna get is that the desk barrel is

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Speaker 1: going to continue, but Republicans are going to own it,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna call it trump Care, and it's still

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Speaker 1: gonna be a disaster a year from now. All Right,

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Speaker 1: Ram Paul's with us eight hundred nine for one. Shawn

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Speaker 1: is a to free telephone number. We'll have more with

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Speaker 1: him on the other side of this. We'll talk about

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01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: should the Congress, the House, and Senate stay over August recess.

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01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: Will get his take on that and more. And as

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Speaker 1: we continue with Senator Rampaul, the Senate has released a

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Speaker 1: healthcare built today. Four senators now have said they can't

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Speaker 1: support it in its current form. One of them Rampaul

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Speaker 1: of Kentucky, and the others are Ron Johnson and Ted Cruz,

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Speaker 1: and also Senator Mike Lee. All right, now, how close

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Speaker 1: are the four of you in terms of your disagreement?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know you're released a joint statement, but

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Speaker 1: you didn't say we all agree and disagree on this

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Speaker 1: part in that part, do you feel that you're in

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01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: sinc the four of you or do you think there

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01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: are differences just between the four of you? You know,

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Speaker 1: our hope is to work together on this and to

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Speaker 1: negotiate as a team. I think separately none of us

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01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: have the power to change this bill or make it better.

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Speaker 1: But if we work together, I think there's quite a

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Speaker 1: bit we can do. I know that all of us

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Speaker 1: have been concerned about the cost of insurance and that

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Speaker 1: the regulations of Obamacare add to the cost, and that

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Speaker 1: if we don't get rid of the regulations, they'll still

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Speaker 1: be uh, that insurance will still continue to rise, the

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Speaker 1: death spiral of Obamacare will continue, And so really that

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Speaker 1: means repealing regulations. The Republican bill gets rid of two

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Speaker 1: of twelve. Um. I feel certain that if we stick

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Speaker 1: together as a team, we can get a few more

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Speaker 1: of those regulations repealed. Do you think you get to yes?

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Speaker 1: Do you think you get to yes at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, I think it's uncertain and that I

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Speaker 1: am willing to negotiate in good faith because I do

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Speaker 1: want repeal and like I say, there are some good

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Speaker 1: things repealing taxes, but I don't want to create new

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Speaker 1: federal entitlement programs. And the tax subsidies of Obamacare are

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01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: essentially an entitlement program. That's not getting your own money back,

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Speaker 1: You're getting someone else's money. And we already have enormous

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01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: entitlement programs that are out there through the tax credit system. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's I guess I just can't do that.

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Speaker 1: I can't vote for federal going to get bigger. Right now,

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01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: we have a five hundred billion dollar deficit, and I

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01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: think if we get bigger, there is a danger our

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Speaker 1: our our debt could get so large that it consumes

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Speaker 1: us as a nation. What about the trillion dollars in

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Speaker 1: savings that's needed for the President's economic plan? Well, you

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Speaker 1: mean lowering the taxes by a trillion dollars. No, I mean,

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Speaker 1: according to their analysis when they passed the House bill,

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Speaker 1: that there was a trillion dollars in savings that they

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Speaker 1: would literally transfer over to the President's economic plan. It's

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Speaker 1: sort of confusing Sean the way they do Washington, mass So,

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Speaker 1: for example, let's say Obamacare cost a trillion over ten

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Speaker 1: years and they're gonna repeal uh, eight hundred billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: They say, oh, we saved eight hundred billion, But to

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Speaker 1: my mind, if they repealed the whole thing, they would

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Speaker 1: have saved to trillion, So they actually spent two billions.

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Speaker 1: It sort of depends on your perspective. The other thing

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you is spending goes up at you know,

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01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: about a five clip for all of government every year,

1202
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: and so if they cut it to four percent, they

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01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: call that a cut. Really there's cutting the rate of

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01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: growth of spending. And I think the way I look

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01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: at it right now, social Security spends more than they

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01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: bring in in taxes, Medicare spends more than it brings

1207
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: in in taxes. Food Stamps and Medicaid have no specific funding,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know where anybody's coming up with a

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01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: new money for things. I gotta leave it there centering around.

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Speaker 1: Paul will stay in touch and see where this goes.

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Speaker 1: By the end of the day, hopefully they'll make some

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Speaker 1: improvements that that at least get us on a path

1213
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Speaker 1: to a much better health care system that's going to

1214
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: save money, increase access, and you know, I would hopefully

1215
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Speaker 1: get some of these cooperatives and health savings accounts. We'll

1216
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Speaker 1: continue stay right here for our final news round up

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Speaker 1: and information overload. All right, news round up, Information overload,

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Speaker 1: our here on the Shawn Hannah the show. Haven't spent

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01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: enough time on this today. The President said today he

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Speaker 1: does not have tapes of his private conversations with the

1221
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Speaker 1: former FBI director James Comey. Now remember at the time

1222
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Speaker 1: he said, well, Mr Comey, want to make sure you

1223
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: don't lie. There may be tapes of this. Now he

1224
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Speaker 1: did what you know, Look, I've known Donald Trump for

1225
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: too long. Didn't we all predicted that he was playing

1226
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: Comey and he was just if he was sowing seeds

1227
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Speaker 1: of doubt in Comey's mind. Why because now we've discovered

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Speaker 1: rightly so that there probably was a pretty good chance

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Speaker 1: that Comey really didn't like Donald Trump, and maybe Comey

1230
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Speaker 1: wouldn't have been so inclined to be so honest about

1231
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Speaker 1: even going as far as to say Trump encouraged him

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Speaker 1: to go forward with the investigation by saying, no, I

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Speaker 1: want to know. The American people have a right to

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01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: know if it's I know it's not me, but if

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Speaker 1: there were satellites around me that we're colluding with the

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Speaker 1: Russians on the issue of the campaign, and okay, the

1237
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,919
Speaker 1: American people have a right to know, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't even in and in and of itself, be a crime.

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Speaker 1: What does collusion mean that somebody has a private conversation.

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01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: In the course of the conversation, somebody says, Oh, I

1241
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: have tapes of Hillary Clinton. Oh, you don't want the

1242
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: tapes of Hillary to be released? Oh I have Hillary's

1243
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 1: emails that she said don't exist anymore. Oh that would

1244
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: be great. I hope you'll release him, because then the

1245
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Speaker 1: American people can see the truth. We never get to

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Speaker 1: that fundamental part. And I would argue that in Comey's

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Speaker 1: mind when he was saying and testifying, oh, well, I

1248
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Speaker 1: heard there might be tapes. I want to hear the tapes.

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Speaker 1: I think that made Comey work a little bit harder

1250
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: on that memory of his and recollection of his and

1251
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Speaker 1: probably kept him a lot more honest than he otherwise

1252
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Speaker 1: would have been. And that means that probably he had

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Speaker 1: to reveal, maybe he didn't want to, that he had

1254
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Speaker 1: leaked to the New York Times and by leaking to

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Speaker 1: the New York Times he wanted a special counsel and

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Speaker 1: not knows it knowing that Rosenstein had recommended Comey's firing. Well,

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Speaker 1: now you know, because there's no Trump Russia collusion or

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Speaker 1: no evidence up to this point of such, Well, then

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Speaker 1: that means Rosenstein saying that, well, we should investigate why

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Speaker 1: Comey went when he recommended it to the president. And

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Speaker 1: then we end up with the best friend of James Comey,

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Speaker 1: Robert Muller, as the special counsel that Comey wanted appointed,

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Speaker 1: and they collude in their testimony before Comey goes before

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Speaker 1: the Senate Intelligence Committee. And then he hires let's see,

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's lawyer to prevent with the with the Clinton Foundation,

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Speaker 1: woman charged with preventing the American people from getting Freedom

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Speaker 1: of Information Act requests. All that lawyer is now working

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Speaker 1: for Muller or all the many lawyers working for Muller

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Speaker 1: that donated to Obama and Clinton. Is there any one

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Speaker 1: Trump donor in the list of people that he's putting together.

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Speaker 1: This is all called the conflict of interest. It's all

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Speaker 1: called mission investigative creep. And now that we already know

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Speaker 1: that there's no Trump Russia collusion because there's no evidence

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Speaker 1: thereof then why is the investigation even going forward anyway?

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Speaker 1: Joining us now, our good friend Rick Hunger and Jonathan

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Speaker 1: gillim is back with us, all right, Rick Hunger, I

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Speaker 1: think this is a stroke of pure genius. And you

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Speaker 1: know what he's saying. You know what he's saying. He's saying, Well,

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Speaker 1: with all this stuff about surveillance going on, and all

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Speaker 1: the talk about you know, people being surveiled against their

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01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: will and unmasked, and you know, of course intelligence leaking.

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Speaker 1: Who knows who's getting taped at any given time, that's

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Speaker 1: a stroke of genius. Uh. You know what, I I

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01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: don't even know what to say to that, because I

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01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: never believe for one half of a second that he

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Speaker 1: had any tapes. So I never took this all very seriously.

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Speaker 1: You know, when Comey's mind, Comey had to say, well,

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Speaker 1: even if there's two percent chance that did hold Comy

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Speaker 1: to a higher accountability of honesty, didn't it because he

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01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: knew it might be there in the back of his head,

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01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 1: and if he was gonna lie, he couldn't take that chance.

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Speaker 1: I I suspect two things. Oneity, you're right it's a

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01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: stroke of genius, and I wish I did it myself.

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Speaker 1: I think I think public officials like like Comy is

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01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: probably clever enough to be careful when testifying before Congress

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Speaker 1: under oath. Uh So, I don't think he had any

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01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: play in this anything dishonest there. I don't think Trump

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01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 1: did anything wrong, you know, illegal, or anything by tweaking

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01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: Comy with that. I never bought it, but I do

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01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: think what's funny is he's like turning it around on

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01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 1: the press and saying, Oh, you're gonna be so disappointed.

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01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: We didn't start this. You did you put out the tweet?

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01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: What do you want us to do? Pretend you didn't?

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01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: But wait a minute, and in a day and age,

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01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: in a well, no, it's not high school in a

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01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 1: day and age, where Comy clearly is a bitter, angry, angry,

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01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 1: you know, disgruntled ex employee who clearly had an agenda

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01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: to get a special counsel appointed for the president. I

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01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 1: think it was a stroke of genius. Jonathan Gillham. He

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01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 1: held him to a higher level of accountability and honesty

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01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: by saying, Hey, all of us could be taped according

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01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 1: to the deep state. I thought it was brilliant. No,

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01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 1: I think I think it was too and and and

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01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: I know Rick disagrees with this, but I do believe

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01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: it probably played into this a little bit with Mr Comey,

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01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: the criminal James Coomey coming out and actually um saying

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01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that he did. I mean, look,

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01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: did you just say that, you know it was a

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01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: little jail Tell me say again, did you just call

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Speaker 1: him a criminal? Did I hear you? James? Yeah, I

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01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 1: can tell you. I can tell you a crime. I

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Speaker 1: think I think he did commit a crime eighteen USC.

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01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 1: Forty one when he used a government computer in a

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01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: government car and he created a government memo. He does

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01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: not have the right to leak it, and by doing

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01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: so that would be a violation of the Records Act

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01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 1: of felony punishable in jail up to three to ten

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Speaker 1: years and a fine. Not just that, but also the fact, Sean, listen,

1329
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: there's no investigation that is this clean where they just say, oh,

1330
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 1: we have proof of this, we have proof of that,

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01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: we know that this person did that. The only time

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01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: a case is this, Queen, is when we are setting

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01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: up when I was an FBI agent and we are

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01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: setting up somebody that we either know is doing something,

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01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 1: or in the case of bad investigators, they're trying to

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01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: entrap somebody and so they create something and get them

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01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: to act on It is just you know, what follow

1338
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 1: this thing? I I don't know. I don't know if

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01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: there's any collusion here. I really don't. I think it's

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01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,600
Speaker 1: all starting to become background. But as objective as I

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01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 1: can be, you guys are working way too hard. No,

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01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: there's no way something. This is genius because Trump figured

1343
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 1: out that this guy is angry, disgruntled, wanted to spect.

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01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: We now know he leaked to get a special counsel,

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01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: which I would argue the violation of the law that

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01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: should be investigated itself. Now that is but Trump Republic.

1347
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: But Trump knows in the world of the deep state,

1348
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: all of us can be taped, all of us are surveiled.

1349
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 1: So what he's saying is I hope you don't lie.

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01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 1: There might be tapes of it. Well, it could have

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01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: been the FBI or the n s A or the

1352
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: CIA taping it. And I just think that is a

1353
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: a massive jiu jitsu move back on the deep state

1354
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: and on Comey. It was great. I think it's a

1355
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: I think it's the six am tweet that was high school.

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01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 1: But ye know who knows. I think it kept call

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01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: me honest. I think Comey had two in the back

1358
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 1: of his mind. Think what if there's only a one

1359
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: percent chance? I gotta be careful. Yeah, it's funny. With

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01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: all the talk people have about people who appear under oath,

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01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: whether it's in a courtroom or in congress, you'd be

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01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,759
Speaker 1: amazed there's such a slim number of people who actually

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01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 1: lie in court or in congress because they do take perjury. Seriously,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Comey would have lied with or without

1365
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: Trump suggesting that there were tapes. Okay, Hillary Benghazi, the

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01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: President lies, you know, all the lies about Well, there

1367
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: was a spontaneous demonstration, and in the middle of this demonstration,

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01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: they just happened to pull out mortars and RPG so

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01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 1: they could fire at the compound because the moment just

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01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 1: came to them. That was not in That was spontaneous.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious. Is there anybody on your side of the

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Speaker 1: sense that you think ever lied? There was only the

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01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: other people. I'll play with. Comy lied to you. Ready,

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01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: let's listen to James call me lie right here. Therey General,

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01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:04,520
Speaker 1: senior officials at the Department of Justice opposes a specific investigation,

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01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 1: can they halt that FBI investigation? In theory, yes, as

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01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,600
Speaker 1: it happened, not in my experience, because it would be

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01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: a big deal to tell the FBI to stop doing

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01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: something that without an appropriate purpose. We're oftentimes they give

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Speaker 1: us opinions that we don't see a case there, and

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01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: so you ought to stop investing resources in it. But

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about a situation where we were told to

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01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 1: stop something for a political reason. That would be a

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01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: very big deal. It's not happened in my experience. At

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01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: one point, the Attorney General had directed me not to

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01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: call it an investigation, but instead to call it a matter,

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01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: which confused me and concerned me. But that was one

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01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: of the bricks in the load that led me to conclude,

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Speaker 1: I have to step away from the Department if we're

1390
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: to close this case credibly well. It concerned me because

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01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: we were at the point where we had refused to

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01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: confirm the existence as we typically do of an investigation

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01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 1: for months, and it was getting to a place where

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01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 1: that looks silly. Because the campaigns we're talking about interacting

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01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: with the FBI in the course of our work. The

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01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: Clinton campaign at the time was using all kinds of euphemisms,

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01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: security review matters, things like that. For what was going on.

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01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 1: We were getting to a place where the Turn and

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01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: I were both gonna have to testify and talk publicly

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01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 1: about it. And I want to know what she going

1401
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: to authorize us to confirm we had an investigation. And

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01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: she said, yes, but don't call it that. Call it

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01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: a matter. And I said, why would I do that?

1404
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: And she said, just call it a matter. And again,

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01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: you look back in hindsight, you think should I have

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01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 1: resisted harder? I just said, all right, isn't worth This

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01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,879
Speaker 1: isn't hill worth diying on. And so I just said, okay.

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01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the President United States with me alone,

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01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 1: saying I hope this. I took it as this is

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01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 1: what he wants me to do. No, I didn't obey that,

1411
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: but that's the way I took it. He just lies.

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01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what else to say. Where

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01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 1: where did he lie there? Okay? He said, nobody's ever

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01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 1: asked me. That would be a big deal if they

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01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: ever asked me politically, you know, to stop an investigation.

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01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 1: By the way, would you mind calling it a matter,

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01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: not an investigation. And on top of that, we now

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01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: know from Sarah Carter and John Solomon. How could he

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01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: say he's lying if he just told you that's what happened. No,

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01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 1: because I'm saying if somebody tried to stop him for

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01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: political reasons from stopping an investigation would be a big deal.

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01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: Then you have I don't get where the lie is.

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01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 1: By the way, you gotta follow the bouncing ball. And

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01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: then then calling it a matter and him out doing that,

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01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: And couple that with Carter and John Solomon's revelation that

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01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:36,560
Speaker 1: Loretta Lynch, according to Democrats and documents that exist, apparently

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01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,759
Speaker 1: had already put the kabash on any possible indictment of Hillary.

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01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 1: That's a big deal. Just having trouble falling, you know,

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01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 1: I know, I'm not, oh my gosh, following the chain

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01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: of a lie. I think you stay right there. I'm

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01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 1: gonna let you let your mind recover from the intensity

1432
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,520
Speaker 1: of this this interview, and then maybe you'll catch up. Okay,

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01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, Rick Alright. Eight nine one Shawn is

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01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 1: a number. As we get to New Sean Hannity Show,

1435
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: eight hundred dying for one, Seawan told free telephone number

1436
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: Governor Scott Walker of Wisconsin will join us at the

1437
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: bottom of the hour to talk about the Republican healthcare bill,

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01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 1: and they need to keep their promises. We're trying to

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01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 1: explain why this was a stroke of genius to Rick Unger,

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01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: our liberal friend, but Jonathan kill him. I just can't

1441
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 1: seem to get through to him. I don't know you,

1442
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 1: but why don't you try? Okay, Rick, on this real quick.

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01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 1: First of all, I think out of that whole thing,

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01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 1: lies and everything else, the most profound statement that he

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01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: made was that that wasn't a hill worth dying on. Listen,

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01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: If that was not the most profound thing that he

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01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: ever said, it sounds like he's afraid of the Clintons.

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01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 1: He's a fraid he's gonna die if he does the

1449
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,640
Speaker 1: wrong thing. Okay, that's that's just my opinion on that.

1450
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. When it comes to the FBI

1451
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 1: and the way that we work, we don't work like attorney.

1452
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 1: We don't stretch the truth. We don't do unethical things

1453
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 1: like change the name from investigation to a matter that

1454
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 1: is an unethical thing, and it borderlines a why there

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01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 1: are places where he does why all throughout his testimony,

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01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 1: or he says things that are criminal, like he leaked

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01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 1: government information, and he just skips right over it. But

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01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: the fact that gleaning this to me, you've gone from

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01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 1: lie to borderline lie. Now here's a news slash. I

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01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,959
Speaker 1: actually agree. I would nobody was well, I won't say nobody,

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01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: but I couldn't have been more vocal about my disgust

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01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 1: with President Clinton meeting the Attorney General on a tarmac

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01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 1: in her plane. It was outrageous. I don't like that

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01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: the Attorney General said to her FBI director, can he

1465
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: please call this a matter and not an investigation? And

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01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 1: that should be investigated, but let's keep things organized and

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01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 1: on track, you know, I mean, it's not about diverting.

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01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 1: It's about you know, justice finding out if somebody did

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01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 1: something wrong and dealing with it. If she did something wrong,

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01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: go get her man. But you know what dying he

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01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 1: did Hillary mishandle classified top secret and special access program information.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, yes, and that she destroyed top secret,

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01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 1: classified and special access program. I don't know, well, we

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01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 1: do know. I mean, James come said, actually said the

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01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: words that of the emails deleted, which is an attempt

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01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 1: to destroy that that included top secret, classified and special

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01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 1: Access program information, so that would mean she committed at

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01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 1: least two felonies. What should happen then? I think that

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01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 1: if she committed felonies, she should be prosecuted for them.

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Speaker 1: But what I don't understand is why you're still talking

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01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 1: about Hillary when Hillary Clinton lost the election. It can

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01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: only be deflection. You know, go get her if she

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01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 1: broke laws, go get her. I'm for prosecuting anybody who

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01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 1: commits felonies. What I don't understand is why anybody feels

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01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 1: the need to be spending time. Just put your put

1486
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 1: your vote in man, go prosecute anybody who has broken

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01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 1: the law. I don't care what side of the guys

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01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: hold there on, But what has that got to do

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01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 1: with the current situation we're living today? We're not living

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01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: even six months ago when President Trump became president. But

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01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 1: I think what you're saying right there is the exact thing.

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01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 1: The fact is all this include and includes the former

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01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: attorney general, the former director of the FBI, the special prosecutor.

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01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: The whole thing, this whole case is a lie. So

1495
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 1: when we say the lie, what is what is the

1496
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 1: whole former attorney general got to do? With this cake,

1497
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,600
Speaker 1: with the whole thing is a lie. Everything everything is

1498
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 1: up about about Trump is a lie. There's no general

1499
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 1: says there's no investigation to the president. They have those kinds.

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01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 1: It's great that you have those kinds of sources in

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01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 1: an investigation that's not completed. Yet You've never heard me

1502
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 1: say that it's true because I have no idea. But

1503
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 1: yet you seem to know the whole case is a

1504
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 1: fraud and a lie. You may be right, And can

1505
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 1: I tell you something. I really hope you are, because

1506
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: I don't want the president of my country or his

1507
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 1: people to have been involved in something like that. You

1508
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: want to go from my kind treat If you want

1509
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 1: to get rid of this, then you should agree with

1510
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 1: us that Mueller needs to recuse himself and Rosenstein needs

1511
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 1: to go and Comy. Yeah, no, no, not right. But

1512
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 1: they have a policy for special investigations. Investigation going on.

1513
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 1: You should be confident that that investigation. Problem is the

1514
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: investigation is stacked with Clinton Obama donors and Hillary's own attorney,

1515
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 1: and it's filled with conflict of interest with Mueller and

1516
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 1: Comey and Rosenstein, and it stinks too high heaven, and

1517
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: by the law, they should recuse themselves. I've read the

1518
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: law many times on the program, but I got a roll,

1519
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 1: all right, Love you both, Thank you, Rick, Thank you

1520
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gillham. When we come back to Governor of the

1521
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 1: Great State of Wisconsin, Governor Walker on why Republicans need

1522
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 1: to start keeping their promises next this once or twice,

1523
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 1: but it bears repeating. And you can keep your plan

1524
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 1: if you're satisfied with it. If you like the plan

1525
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 1: you have, you can keep it. If you like your

1526
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: plan and you like your doctor, you won't have to

1527
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: do a thing. You keep your plan. If you like

1528
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 1: your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your

1529
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 1: health care plan. If you've got health insurance, you can

1530
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 1: keep it. If you like your health care plan, you

1531
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: will keep your plan. If you've got health insurance, you

1532
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: like your doctor, you like your plan, you can keep

1533
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 1: your doctor. You can keep your plan. If you have

1534
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:20,600
Speaker 1: insurance that you like, then you will be able to

1535
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,719
Speaker 1: keep that insurance. If you like your doctor or health

1536
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 1: care plan, you can keep it. If you like your

1537
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 1: health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.

1538
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 1: If you like your health care plan, you can keep

1539
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 1: your health care plan. If you like your private health insurance, plan,

1540
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 1: you can keep your plan. If you like your health

1541
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 1: care plan, you can keep your health care plan. If

1542
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 1: you like your private health insurance plan, you can keep it.

1543
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 1: If you want to keep the health insurance you've got,

1544
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 1: you can keep it. If you like the insurance plan

1545
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 1: you have now, you can keep it. So if you

1546
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you

1547
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: like your plan, keep your plan. If you like your

1548
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 1: current insurance, you will keep your current insurance. If you

1549
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you

1550
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you're

1551
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 1: happy with what you got, nobody is changing it. Insurance

1552
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 1: giant United Health Group dealt a blow to the Affordable

1553
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 1: Care Act on Thursday when it warned that it may

1554
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 1: stop offering insurance plans to individuals through the public exchanges

1555
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 1: established by the reform law. One of the nation's largest

1556
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 1: health insurers, United Health, has announced that they will exit

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01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: out of most Obamacare exchanges starting next year. They will

1558
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 1: only operate in a handful of states. Pantham is one

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01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 1: of the two providers that is exiting the marketplace for

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01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 1: We received the announcement from from me An a guest today.

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01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: Like the rest of the nation, that humanous pulling out

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01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 1: a nationwide for health insurance exchanges blamacures. Insurance exchanges are

1563
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: losing major insurance companies, leaving many US counties with only

1564
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 1: one or to health plan choices. Company Etna says it's

1565
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 1: pulling out of the health exchanges set up by the

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01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 1: Affordable Care Act in eleven of the fifteen states, including

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01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 1: North Carolina. To worrying development is the decision by several

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01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 1: large insures, including Etna and United Health, to pull out

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01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 1: of the Many of the exchanges, and many of the

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01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 1: nonprofit co op insurers formed after the law's passage have

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01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: also failed. You can't do it politically, You just literally

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01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 1: cannot do it. Okay. Transparent financing unless how transparent financing

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01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 1: as transparent spending. I mean the this bill was written

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01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 1: in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not

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01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 1: score the mandated is taxes because Stebo scored the mandates

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01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: taxes to build dies. Okay, So it's written to do

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01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 1: that in terms of in terms of rist rated subsidies,

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01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 1: to get a law which said healthy people are going

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01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 1: to pay in it made explicit the health people paying

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01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 1: and sick people get money. It would not have passed. Okay,

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01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: just like the people transparent. Lack of transparency is a

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01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: huge political advantage and basically, you know, called the stupidity

1583
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 1: American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really

1584
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 1: critical to getting to think to pass and you know,

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01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 1: it's the second best argument. Look, I wish market's right,

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01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: we can make it all transparent, but I'd rather have

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01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 1: this law than not. So it's kind of like his

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01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,560
Speaker 1: reporter story. You know, yeah, the things I wish you

1589
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: could change, but I'd rather have this law than not.

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01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 1: We have been running on repealing and replacing Obamacare since

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01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,640
Speaker 1: two thousand ten and two thousand sixteen. The House, in

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01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 1: a bottom up way, set a working group together the

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01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,639
Speaker 1: Commerce Committee, the Ways and Means Committee, the Education Workforce Committee,

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01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 1: and then any other member of Congress who cares about

1595
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 1: this issue participated in a working group to come up

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01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 1: with a plan for what we replace Obamacare with. Much

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01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 1: of it was modeled off the Tom Price legislation, which

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01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: which we have Conservatives have always seen a sort of

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01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 1: the gold standard for replacing Obamacare. He's now the Secretary

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01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 1: of HSS. That is the bill, the plan that we

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01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 1: ran on in t sixteen. We told America. Here's our

1602
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 1: vision for how we replace Obamacare after we repeal Obamacare.

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01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 1: That's the bill we're working on right now. That's the

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01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 1: bill we're working on with the Trump administration. We're all

1605
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 1: working off the same piece of paper, the same plan,

1606
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: so we are in sync, the House, the Senate, and

1607
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 1: the Trump administration. Because this law is collapsing and you

1608
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 1: can't just repeal it. You have to repeal it and

1609
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 1: replace it with a system that actually works. And that

1610
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 1: is exactly what we're doing. And I am perfectly confident

1611
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 1: that when it's all said and done, we're going to

1612
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 1: unify because we all, every Republican ran on repealing and

1613
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 1: replacing and we're going to keep our promises. Because I

1614
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 1: heard everything from Obamacare will be done day one to

1615
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 1: the spring, to the summer, to the by the end

1616
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 1: of the year. And so it's been all over the map,

1617
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: not just from you, but from other people. I also

1618
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 1: heard people say it hasn't been all over the map

1619
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 1: from us for me, well converse for the press. It's

1620
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 1: been all over the map from from rumor Mills, but

1621
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 1: from us here in Congress, we're exactly on the timeline

1622
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 1: that we laid out for ourselves. When I heard repair,

1623
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 1: my head nearly exploded. That's not the plan. The plan

1624
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 1: is to repeal and replace this law. Like we said,

1625
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 1: we ran on a plan to repeal and replace it.

1626
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 1: Tom Price helped write that plan. He is now Donald

1627
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 1: Trump's Secretary of It is a consensus plan that's now

1628
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,719
Speaker 1: being scored by the CBO. Correct, all right, it wasn't

1629
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 1: exactly the case. Twenty three now till the top of

1630
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: the hour, toll free or telephone numbers eight hundred nine

1631
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 1: for one, Shawn, if you want to be a part

1632
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 1: of the programs. The Senate is making their move on

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01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 1: the effort on repealing replacing Obamacare. I think the most

1634
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 1: outrageous part of that is, oh, you know, listen to

1635
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 1: lack of transparencies, great politics. You know, you've gotta count

1636
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 1: on the stupidity of the American voter that works in

1637
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 1: our favor. We can't tell them the truth. We told

1638
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 1: them the truth. They've never passed this, and it ends

1639
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: up millions lose their doctors, millions lose their care and

1640
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 1: the promise of the average family saving dollars per family

1641
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 1: per year, you know, turns into a six seven, eight

1642
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:42,759
Speaker 1: thousand dollar a year increase for Americans. Governor Scott Walker

1643
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 1: is with us from the great state of Wisconsin, and

1644
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 1: he said to Republicans, there's no excuses, get the job done.

1645
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 1: How are you, I'm outstanding, Sewan, Thanks for having on Yeah,

1646
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 1: that's right. Senate Republicans, just like House Republicans, ran on

1647
01:26:56,720 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: a message that they were going to repeal Obamacare, they

1648
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 1: were going to replace it with something better, and they

1649
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 1: need to give their promises plain and simple. Well, I

1650
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 1: agree with you, and I think I was disappointed in

1651
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 1: the in the House bill the way it ultimately came out.

1652
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 1: I do believe agree with the President. It's a great

1653
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 1: first step. I think one of the more disappointing aspects

1654
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 1: of it is I learned that there were probably a

1655
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 1: hundred or so moderate to liberal Republicans in the House

1656
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: that had no intention of ever fully repealing and replacing. Well,

1657
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 1: that's just that they was great to take a vote

1658
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 1: apparently when Barack Obama was president United States and they

1659
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 1: could fall back on the veto the bottom line is

1660
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 1: I think Americans last year's show, they certainly showed in

1661
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 1: Wisconsin where we elected Donald Trump and Mike Pence as

1662
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 1: president vice president for the first time since Ronald Reagan.

1663
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 1: That's the very first Republican to carry the States since

1664
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 1: then and send back people like Ron Johnson the United

1665
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 1: States Senate. We not only had Republicans win it that way,

1666
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 1: we had a whole lot of independence because they wanted

1667
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 1: people who are authentic. They wanted people to do the

1668
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 1: things that they said they would do to shake things up,

1669
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 1: to drain the swamp in Washington. And a big part

1670
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 1: of that is is making sure that there is a

1671
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 1: full repeal and that the replacement is something that is better,

1672
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 1: that is conservative. That is what people ran on and uh,

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01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 1: I guess the things they're arguing to hear all the

1674
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 1: lobbyists out their circle, members of Congress and some of

1675
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 1: the Senate to try and change them and get them

1676
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 1: to back away from the promises that were made. One

1677
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: of the things that everybody would argue in Conservatives are

1678
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,640
Speaker 1: particularly arguing, and Ran Paul in particular and others, is

1679
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,639
Speaker 1: that this isn't and never was. And even the Freedom

1680
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 1: cauc has admitted it was not their choice. But it's

1681
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 1: not a full repeal. I know there are discretionary powers

1682
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 1: of the Health and Human Services Secretary, but they would

1683
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 1: also pass any new administration, if it happened to be

1684
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 1: a democratic administration, does that bother you? Absolutely? And along

1685
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 1: with that, to me, one of the most troubling things

1686
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 1: is I've said all along, any bill, be it in

1687
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 1: the Senate or the House, that allows the Obamacare Medicate

1688
01:28:56,479 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 1: expansion to grow is not a repeal of Obamacare. Remember

1689
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 1: Valerie Jared, like one of my fellow governors I think,

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Speaker 1: got to call at midnight trying to persuade that person

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Speaker 1: to join the Medicaid expansion. The reason they did that

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Speaker 1: was because they knew in the Obama administration it would

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Speaker 1: be much more difficult to repeal Obamacare if states took

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Speaker 1: the expansion. Myself included did not. On principle, we thought

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01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 1: it was the wrong thing to do. It would make

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01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: it harder to repeal Obamacare, and just it was bad

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Speaker 1: for the taxpayers and not just our states, but our country.

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Speaker 1: And to me, if a bill includes not just continuing expansion,

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01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: but but talk about growing and allowing it to grow

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01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 1: into the future as well as the concerns you just raised,

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01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 1: those are real, real problems. And that's not what the

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01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 1: American people thought they were getting when people said they

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01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 1: were going to repeal it. What do you make of

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01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 1: all of this vitriol and hate and and all of

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01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 1: these attacks and all these false narratives that have been

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01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 1: laid at the door of the president that keep being

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01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:00,679
Speaker 1: proven not to be true. No evidence of Trump U collusion,

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01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 1: And now you've got an investigation that probably is going

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01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 1: to take years, which I think is outrageous because of

1710
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 1: all the conflicts of interest that have emerged, and you

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01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 1: know the impact that you think it's having on the country.

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01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 1: And do you think, for example, severed heads and ices

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01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 1: poses of the president's head and and everything else that

1714
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 1: we've heard about him and his family is leading to

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01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 1: this culture of what happened in Alexandria last week. So

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01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 1: many of these taxs are just despicable. You know, good

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01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: and decent people can have difference of opinions. We're not

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01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 1: talking about different opinions. We're talking about people who are

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01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 1: blinded by their rage, unfortunately. And I just saw the

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01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 1: president the week ago and the Vice president a couple

1721
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 1: of days before, they both made visits to Wisconsin, and

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Speaker 1: I reminded them of two things. One, I commiserate a

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01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 1: little bit because as you well know, Sean, you you

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01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 1: helped lift me up a number of times when we

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01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:52,679
Speaker 1: were facing similar circumstances. You you probably with your second

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01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 1: on the list in terms of the brutality that you face.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. Oh I said about the

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01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 1: the only thing they hate more than me, and in

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01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:02,679
Speaker 1: the most liberal parts of Madison now as the president,

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01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 1: so I at least got a slight reprieve, I guess there.

1731
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 1: But that just means you're doing you know, for a

1732
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 1: lot of these folks, that just means you're doing the

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01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: right thing. They don't hate you if you're backing away

1734
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 1: from your principles. They don't hate you if you're not

1735
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 1: getting things done. What they hate our common sense, principled

1736
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 1: conservatives who get things done. And so I told the

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01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 1: president the best thing he could do. I told the

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Speaker 1: Vice President, Mike pens who has been a good friend

1739
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 1: of mine for many, many years, do what I've tried

1740
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:27,760
Speaker 1: to do over the last several years, and that is

1741
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 1: get out of the capital as much as you can.

1742
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:32,640
Speaker 1: The more you see people I see it in my

1743
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 1: state in Wisconsin, I believe you will see it across America.

1744
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 1: The more you get out of the capital, get out

1745
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 1: of just that bubble sixty eight square miles surrounded by

1746
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 1: reality is what I call Washington d See. The more

1747
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 1: you get out to talk to people living in reality

1748
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 1: every single day and show them you're fighting for them,

1749
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,680
Speaker 1: it not only helps save your sanity, it reinvigorates you

1750
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 1: because you can see that everyday. Americans really do want

1751
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 1: us to do the things we we said we do

1752
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:00,080
Speaker 1: when we campaign. And that's one of the to me,

1753
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 1: at least the best messages I could pass on both

1754
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 1: to the President and then the Vice President is get

1755
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 1: out and see America, keep talking to people, and forget

1756
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 1: about the mess and that Washington. Get out of there

1757
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 1: and stay stay away from there as much as you can.

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01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 1: One of the senators opposing the bill today and they

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01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 1: came out with a joint statement, Uh have Senator I'm

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01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 1: sorry for Senator Senator Mike Lee. Uh, Senator Ram Paul,

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01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:27,679
Speaker 1: Senator Cruz, and Senator Johnson, your senator opposing this bill,

1762
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 1: saying currently a variety of reasons, we're not ready to

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01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,720
Speaker 1: vote on a bill, but we are open to negotiation

1764
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 1: obtaining more information before it's brought to the floor. Um,

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01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 1: have you spoken to the senator and talked about what

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01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 1: his opposition at this point is I have quite a

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01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 1: bit and and from each of those four, including Royn Johnson,

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01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 1: they're approaching it from a conservative standpoint. They want to

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01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 1: make it better, they want to make it more in

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01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 1: line with what Republicans ran on this fall, to make

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01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 1: it a true repeal. And uh, I think anything that

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01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 1: can be done to improve it before it ultimately gets

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01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 1: sent to the House and on its way to the

1774
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:04,600
Speaker 1: President is a good thing. We want the president to

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01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:07,679
Speaker 1: have a victory. I was just out almost two weekends

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01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 1: ago with Mike Pence, Vice President Pence making the case

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Speaker 1: and as you played on the lead in there, sadly,

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01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 1: we we saw there as we've seen time and time

1779
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 1: against across the country. We met a family from Wisconsin

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01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 1: who it's just crippled by by Obamacare, all the things

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01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 1: President Obama said. You know, she lost her coverage, she

1782
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:33,720
Speaker 1: lost her doctor, she's had her copays are are much

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01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 1: bigger than they ever thought along the way. It is

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01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 1: a system that is falling apart. We've got to completely

1785
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 1: repeal it. We've got to put something back in place

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01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 1: that isn't just like those I think through conservative reform,

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01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:49,720
Speaker 1: and we've got to end all the tentacles that are

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01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:52,679
Speaker 1: part of Obamacare to make it work, and and whether

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01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 1: it's Ron Johnson, Mike Lee, Ted Cruz, Rampaul any of

1790
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 1: those that want to make it better, as long as

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01:33:57,640 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 1: their goal is the only thing I would object with

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01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,519
Speaker 1: is it the goal is to never have a vote.

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01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:05,720
Speaker 1: Then I don't think that works because I think both

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01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 1: for policy reasons and political reasons, politically being people need

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01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:15,080
Speaker 1: to keep their promises, but also politically, Obamacare has fallen apart.

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01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 1: And if Republicans don't repeal it and and and put

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01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 1: something in that's better, the American people are gonna blame them,

1798
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 1: even though it's the Obamacare that's a fault. American people

1799
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:26,760
Speaker 1: are gonna blame them because Republicans are in power now,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have to leave it there. Governor, I listen,

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01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 1: it's been a long time, and you know what, you've

1802
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,759
Speaker 1: been a pretty strong voice of support for the president.

1803
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:36,919
Speaker 1: I was a little disappointed in Paul Ryan during the campaign.

1804
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 1: And can you when you see Paul Ryan, can you

1805
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 1: tell him to move a little faster on his hand?

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01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:42,680
Speaker 1: I just wish he had a little more New York

1807
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:45,639
Speaker 1: urgency uh in him? Will you tell send that message

1808
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 1: for me? Absolutely? We're doing our part to help. We

1809
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:49,640
Speaker 1: keep telling the story of Wisconsin to encourage those in

1810
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 1: the House and the Senate. It can be done. You

1811
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 1: just gotta don't worry about the protesters, worry about the

1812
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 1: people that elected you can get the job done. Well said,

1813
01:34:57,880 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 1: and you know what you have whethered many a storm yourself.

1814
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,600
Speaker 1: I think the President getting out to Iowa yesterday was

1815
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:04,560
Speaker 1: really taking your advice and you could see who was

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01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:07,679
Speaker 1: energized being out with people. All Right, thank you, Governor,

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01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:10,720
Speaker 1: always good to talk to you. Thank you, sir. Nine

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Speaker 1: four one Sean, you want to be a part of

1819
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 1: the program. All right, that's gonna wrap things up with today.

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Speaker 1: We have an awesome Hannity tonight, ten Eastern. Is it

1821
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 1: time to get back to the agenda serving the American

1822
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:24,320
Speaker 1: people in spite of the lying, the corruption, the collusion,

1823
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 1: the media lies. How do we do that. We'll check

1824
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 1: in with New Gingrich tonight. Also, we have President Trump

1825
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 1: versus Come and oh he didn't have tapes after all.

1826
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 1: I think it was the biggest greatest play ever. We

1827
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 1: have Morning Joe's Meltdown. We're gonna We're gonna cover the

1828
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,719
Speaker 1: insanity and cultural will weigh in on that. Lou Dobbs

1829
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 1: a weigh in on the Democrats pushing back, and we'll

1830
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 1: Welossie stepped aside. And Tom Price on the Senate healthcare bill.

1831
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:50,720
Speaker 1: What's in it and what discretion does he have. That's

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Speaker 1: ten Eastern tonight, Hannity, Fox News. See you back here tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us. You make this possible and