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Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for a break?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Ready for a break?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Votch Lombardi, and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 5: It is Wednesday, July thirtieth, twenty twenty five, Season twenty one,

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Speaker 5: episode number eighteen. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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Speaker 5: We are alive from Oxnard, California. We're moving through camp.

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Speaker 5: We're close to being halfway here. We got about I

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Speaker 5: think we have two weeks as of tomorrow, so we've

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Speaker 5: got a lot going on here, Lots of happening. We

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Speaker 5: have practice today and tomorrow before another off day on Friday,

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Speaker 5: heading into a practice day on Saturday. All Right, got

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Speaker 5: a lot we're gonna get into today. I have most

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Speaker 5: of our show I think is gonna be eaten up

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Speaker 5: by injury talk, because there's a lot of that going

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Speaker 5: on right now. But quite frankly, there's really it's not

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Speaker 5: as bad as it possibly could be.

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Speaker 4: There's there's certainly.

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of optimism within the organization after

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Speaker 5: what could have been really devastating injuries that ended up

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Speaker 5: not being So.

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Speaker 6: So let's start first, Tommy, Like, that's not budgeting here.

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Speaker 5: Actually, not only am I got to introduce him, Not

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Speaker 5: only am I going to introduce him, but Tommy, it

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Speaker 5: is your birthday today, Happy birthday.

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Speaker 7: Brother, Coppy birthday?

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Speaker 4: And what do we give you for your birthday? We

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Speaker 4: get to let you come with us. That's what we

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Speaker 4: do around here. But let's talk about Tyler Guiden.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, the the news initially when he left the field

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Speaker 5: was not good. Everyone was really concerned that there could

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Speaker 5: be a lot more serious. I know, Brian, you and

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Speaker 5: I talked a little bit about it. I was actually

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Speaker 5: in some meetings with Joneses, and so there's a lot

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Speaker 2: Going on people. How source when you're in a meeting

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Speaker 2: with the Joneses, you know, you know, yeah, I thought

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Speaker 5: But but it was one of those one of those

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Speaker 5: moments where the was a lot of tension, and I

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Speaker 5: think everybody was really concerned because there's been a lot

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Speaker 5: of thought that you know, you're you're expecting he's going

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Speaker 5: to be better this year. You really want him solidified

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Speaker 5: in that position as you're starting left tackle. And then

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Speaker 5: he goes down and the initial thoughts were, oh my god,

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Speaker 5: this might be this might be pretty serious. That being said,

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Speaker 5: looks like it's going to be about four to six

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Speaker 5: weeks possibility he could even.

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Speaker 4: Be back for Week one of the NFL season.

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Speaker 5: Let's start first with what would you see from him

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Speaker 5: as of last week before the injury. Uh, as far

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Speaker 2: I'll start with you, Tommy.

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Speaker 8: Okay, I think that when he went down it was

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Speaker 3: I think he was having his best day yet.

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Speaker 8: I think you look at the opening week, he was

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Speaker 3: A lot of what we saw throughout the season last year.

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Speaker 8: There was a lot more bad than good in the

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Speaker 8: And he had said, you know, he missed last year

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Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, you're just happy

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, first off, doctor Dan Cooper is human,

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Speaker 2: and he even brought that up. He said, Dan didn't

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Speaker 2: He doesn't miss. Tommy's got this guy absolutely right. What

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Speaker 2: you're seeing. Last year he was surviving practice last year

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Speaker 2: he was surviving reps. Last year he was surviving games.

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Speaker 2: He didn't have the body control, he didn't have the balance,

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Speaker 2: And as Tommy says, missing these reps are really really

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Speaker 6: Yeah, great news. That is not all season long, but

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Speaker 6: it still sucks really bad. Because just like you guys said,

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Speaker 6: the timing of it, he needs to go in here

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Speaker 6: I'm with you, guys, like he was walking in here

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Speaker 6: looking a lot more comfortable. You know, when someone just

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Speaker 7: He still needs.

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Speaker 6: Work and that's very evident, but you still see that

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Speaker 6: I'm not a doctor. I haven't looked at him or anything,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the word confidence and comfortable were really

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Speaker 5: So which players as you look at kind of how

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys will adapt to this, Yeah, which players now

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Speaker 2: And in addition that.

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Speaker 5: Who do you think is best in position of replacing

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Speaker 5: him if the recovery recovery lingers into the season. Who

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Speaker 2: Steven Jones threw a scurveball yesterday through a curveball. He

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Speaker 2: so to me that was interesting because I know Votch

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Speaker 2: and I was talking with him last night. I said, man,

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Speaker 2: Steven told us it's Nate Thomas. He goes, yeah, makes sense,

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Speaker 3: I think Voch is on this something.

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Speaker 2: I think the coaches, you know, when you watch and

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Speaker 2: Adams talking with Nate Thomas about okay, hands, feet, punch.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's kind of working with him that way.

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Speaker 2: So I personally thought, guys that it was going to

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Speaker 2: of it. I thought, well, they'll kick him over. But

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Speaker 2: it looks like, guys, they're playing this thing left and right.

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Speaker 2: But to me, very very surprising. I think Devach might

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Speaker 2: what Austoin Richards has. At least we'll get the first shot.

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Speaker 5: Real quick before I moved to the other guy's answer

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Speaker 5: that question, Brian, you say he's playing with more power. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: we talked about it last bigger body guy, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think I think when we and I'm just these

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Speaker 2: cut off the backside. They're going to reach. Maybe they

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Speaker 2: combo block with tight ends. They've shown heavy personnel formations.

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Speaker 2: Look at how the forty nine ers run the football

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Speaker 2: with with with Kylie Ustcheck. It is a hundred lipkey.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying hundred lipkey is Kylee Euscheck, but it's similar.

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Speaker 2: It's emotion. It's emotion, and now they've got bodies at

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Speaker 2: Sanders has shown up pretty well in these camps Blue

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Speaker 2: to be an element of we want to be stronger

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Speaker 2: and maybe Vatch, you might be right about this, buddy.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they're looking at the guy that has the most

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Speaker 2: power to play that left tackle spot right now.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And I think what Clayton Adams and Connor Riley

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Speaker 8: and even Brian Schottheimer want to do is get these

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: We saw Terrence Steel Paul on the other day and

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Speaker 8: get he could do that and he can do.

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Speaker 3: That really well. That he can do that really well.

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Speaker 8: But as long as Guiden's out and even you know,

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Speaker 8: when Geyton comes back, it wouldn't shock me at all.

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Speaker 8: Like you said, have some help from the tight ends

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Speaker 8: and put those Commo blocks.

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Speaker 3: So you've got six guys up front.

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Speaker 8: I mean, we've already seen a couple of offensive linemen

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Speaker 8: using that, So you know, you've essentially got six offensive

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Speaker 4: And it's my belief that at some point, when you

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Speaker 6: It's also coming out of last year though. The amount

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Speaker 4: The word for them?

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Speaker 6: Yes, it was very uncommon for the Cowboys to get

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Speaker 2: He did not work.

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Speaker 4: As probably some other coaches.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they still this vehical game he happened. He

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Speaker 2: please sign me up. I think the injuries they had,

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Speaker 8: It's always it's the bout and I know we're gonna break,

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Speaker 8: Those guys hit up front. You gotta be ready for that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, real quick, before we go to break, I do

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Speaker 5: Do you think that there's a possibility that when he's back,

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of it depends on how this rotation,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go through every one of my options before

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I couldn't have said it better. I think that,

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Speaker 8: Weeks to figure this thing out before you know, they've

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Speaker 3: So I'm with you, Brian, but you don't.

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Speaker 8: You don't move those three guys because they're gonna be

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Speaker 3: And then you throw Terrence Steel in there.

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Speaker 5: When we come back, we've got to talk about Kaylin

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Speaker 4: Talk about Kaylin Carson.

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Speaker 5: He has a hyper extended slash sprained knee. Looks like

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Speaker 5: he's out four to six weeks. I want to start

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Speaker 5: this discussion similar to Tyler Guidon. What were you seeing

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Speaker 5: from him prior to the industry I'm sorry, prior to

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Speaker 5: the injury coming off of last season that was really

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Speaker 5: up and down for him, a lot of tough moments

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Speaker 5: for him, and then having to come into this camp

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Speaker 5: and hopefully re established some of that confidence.

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Speaker 8: What were you seeing, Yeah, I think, you know, going

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Speaker 8: back to OTAs, he really was not doing a whole

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Speaker 8: lot in team drills. This is a guy who was

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Speaker 8: still recovering from season ending shoulder shirt.

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Speaker 3: You got a visitor there, Brian, not.

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Speaker 8: Anymore death, but now he's still recovered from season ending

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Speaker 8: shoulder surgery. So while he was on the men from

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Speaker 8: that here working with the rehab group and really doing

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Speaker 8: more individual stuff. So training camp for him was all right,

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Speaker 8: let's get back and do this team stuff and see

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Speaker 8: where he fits in this corner room. And you know,

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Speaker 8: at this point, any of the four of us might

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Speaker 8: have to go out there and play corner for these guys.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's they're getting to dire straits. Really.

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Speaker 8: I mean you just saw him yesterday pick up a guy.

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Speaker 8: So you know, we might have to work on our

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Speaker 8: back pedaling during the break here at next time and

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Speaker 8: see what we can do. But no, with Carson, I

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Speaker 8: think confidence is a lot of it, right. I think

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Speaker 8: he wasn't playing confident last year, especially after the Eagles

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Speaker 8: game at at and T Stadium where he kind of

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Speaker 8: got picked on a little bit by A J.

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Speaker 3: Brown.

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Speaker 8: And so for a young guy, it's always good to

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Speaker 8: build that back up, and this is where you want

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Speaker 8: to do that. In training camp, he had some good reps,

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Speaker 8: he had some bad reps, kind of similar to Tyler

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Speaker 8: guyton how he was moving through the first week, but

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Speaker 8: just with the fact that they have so many injured

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Speaker 8: bodies at a corner, he's a guy who's going to

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Speaker 8: see a lot more time with the ones and try

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Speaker 8: to ingrain himself in there. And so you know, he's

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Speaker 8: kind of in a similar station with similar situation with

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Speaker 8: Geyton now where he's missing important reps early in his career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is there's two guys that couldn't afford to

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Speaker 2: get hurt. Douce faun in this guy and they couldn't

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Speaker 2: afford it. He couldn't had to play, had to. You know,

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Speaker 2: here's here's a guy and Tommy did a great job

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Speaker 2: of walking you through everything about it. And Tommy's right,

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Speaker 2: there's been there was some good moments in coverage. Now

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Speaker 2: we've seen some of these corners that have stepped up

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Speaker 2: some of the backups that have stepped up, I mean

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Speaker 2: elim he's not a backup, but we've seen some of

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Speaker 2: these corners make plays out here, even booth making place.

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Speaker 2: You know, a guy who really kind of struggled last year.

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Speaker 2: The thing with Carson he Man coming out of Wake Forest.

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Speaker 2: Heck of a player, I mean everything about him screamed

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Speaker 2: that he was going to be able to handle the job.

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Speaker 2: He's competitive, he can stay with guys. He knew how

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Speaker 2: to play the ball in the air, he knew how

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Speaker 2: to knock balls down, stuff like that. We haven't seen

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Speaker 2: any of that. I mean none of that, and that's

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Speaker 2: unfortunate what we've seen as a player that's now two

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Speaker 2: years in a row has gone on the injury list.

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Speaker 2: And it's unfor because this team can't afford to have

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Speaker 2: injuries at corner, and they especially can't have injuries to

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Speaker 2: a player that they were trying to get ready to

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Speaker 2: help them in the rotation. So just another bad setback

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Speaker 2: for him, and he not lost the season, but you

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Speaker 2: might as well be if you know, he needed these practices,

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Speaker 2: he needed a healthy season, and unfortunately four to six

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Speaker 2: on that sprained and hyper extended me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and as I remember there. This was a timing

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Speaker 6: for him last year where he started to get hot

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Speaker 6: and catch a lot of eyes and started to shine.

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Speaker 6: And during the preseason and we were headed into camp.

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Speaker 6: I remember from our previous shows all of us thought

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Speaker 6: that this would be a camp where maybe he will

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Speaker 6: get back into shape and get back to that form

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Speaker 6: and that guy that was catching eyes and making plays.

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Speaker 6: And it hasn't been that case. And what concerns me

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Speaker 6: even more is that when you see the group defense,

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Speaker 6: the secondary making all these plays and building that chemistry

553
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Speaker 6: to get there, it's been very exciting, and it's it

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Speaker 6: can't affect the player that sideline that it's off to

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Speaker 6: the side doing rehab and not being part of that.

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Speaker 6: Because I'm a big believer on like energy, just it's

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Speaker 6: contagious and it created, it helps you build yourself up.

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Speaker 6: And him being apart from like aside from that group,

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Speaker 6: I think it's gonna affect him even more so, really unfortunate.

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Speaker 6: And I'm even more concerned. I asked you you weren't

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Speaker 6: here there, but the other show I was asking you, guys, Oh,

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Speaker 6: how concern are you at the cornerback? Well, now I'm like,

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Speaker 6: I don't know what's happening.

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Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't know where we're headed this time.

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Speaker 2: This might be they might have to chase something. They

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Speaker 2: might have to chase some corners. I know people talk about,

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Speaker 2: you know, could you go get like Gilmore, veteran guy

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Speaker 2: like that, Sante Samuel Junior's out there, but he's dealing

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Speaker 2: with some injury stuff that you know, could this be

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Speaker 2: We saw them last year during camp chase the defensive

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Speaker 2: end position. You know, could they be start thinking about

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Speaker 2: bringing some guys in and you know, but I mean,

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Speaker 2: so far, the guys they've asked to play, and it's

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Speaker 2: been it's been okay, it's been Hey, I'm covering pickings

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Speaker 2: and I'm not getting destroyed. I'm covering CD. I'm not

576
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Speaker 2: getting destroyed. There's been some positivity that way. But man,

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Speaker 2: I just I feel terrible for Carson because I know

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Speaker 2: in the draft process, I really I thought they stole them.

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Speaker 2: I thought it a third round grade and they got

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Speaker 2: him in the fifth and I thought, man, they got

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Speaker 2: him one. They got him a guy that can actually play.

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Speaker 2: But the injuries have just been really really hard and

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Speaker 2: the lack of confidence has been just killer.

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Speaker 5: I know, it's obviously tough right now from the standpoint

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Speaker 5: of injuries. But all things that we were hearing, at

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Speaker 5: least regarding Digs and Rebel suggests that they're on at.

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Speaker 4: Least a good track. Let's assume for a second that the.

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Speaker 5: Cowboys get them back on the field before the regular

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Speaker 5: season begins. Let's assume on those two guys if that happens,

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Speaker 5: because of like you said, what you're seeing from Elam

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Speaker 5: for sure, right, also what you've seen from guys like Booth,

592
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Speaker 5: there's some other younger guys that are kind of making

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Speaker 5: some place. Do you think this puts puts Kalin into

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Speaker 5: a tough situation from the standpoint of really being able

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Speaker 5: to make the roster and actually be active this season,

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Speaker 5: knowing that if those guys come back and they're healthy,

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Speaker 5: the numbers get kind of heavy. At that point when

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Speaker 5: you start talking about the cornerbacks that maybe ahead of him, Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I think yes, that's the short answer, right, because you know,

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Speaker 8: eventually Sephone Revel's gonna get healthy, and I think when

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Speaker 8: he's healthy, he's.

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Speaker 3: Going to be one of the better corners on this team.

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Speaker 3: It's just a.

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Speaker 8: Question of how far away is he is? It a

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Speaker 8: couple of weeks. Is it two months? You know, that's

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Speaker 8: the biggest question there. And then of course Diggs, who

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Speaker 8: looks like he's progressing wealth from everything that we've seen

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Speaker 8: on the practice field. But again it's just a is

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Speaker 8: it September? Does it maybe stretch into October? You know,

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Speaker 8: when do you get these guys back? And so Andrew

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Speaker 8: Booth was even a guy who went down after having

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Speaker 8: a really good day of practice. So it kind of

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Speaker 8: just depends on, you know, how severe some of these

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Speaker 8: other injuries are, right and when do you get some

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Speaker 8: of these guys back, Because right now, the Cowboys, unless

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Speaker 8: they do what Brian says and they go out and

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Speaker 8: chase somebody, they might not have a choice but to

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Speaker 8: bring Carson back and just say, Okay, this guy is

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Speaker 8: you know what we've got, and he's what we're what

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Speaker 8: is one of the better options on our roster right now?

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Speaker 8: And Ambarty mentioned how I camp last year around this

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Speaker 8: time it kind of looked like he was starting to

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Speaker 8: put it together. Do they believe that he can do

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Speaker 8: that again and finally get his confidence under him. I mean,

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Speaker 8: look at what kyri Elim's kind of the inverse right,

626
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Speaker 8: because he was not confident in Buffalo, and now it

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Speaker 8: looks like he's found his confidence again and you're seeing

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Speaker 8: flashes of what we saw at Florida and what made

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Speaker 8: him a first round pick. So it's it's all about

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Speaker 8: building that back up. And I think confidence in corners

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Speaker 8: is one of the most important things that they have

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Speaker 8: to play, because if you don't have it, you're going

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Speaker 8: to get burn.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's let's tick our final break.

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Speaker 5: Actually, real quick, before we go to break, I did

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Speaker 5: when to ask, real quick, you mentioned booth.

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Speaker 4: Have we heard anything about that injury he did limp

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Speaker 4: off the audio into practice.

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Speaker 3: I have not. We'll see if Brian Schoenheimer talks about

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Speaker 3: it today. But he didn't.

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Speaker 8: He walked under. He walked under his own off the field. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: went into the medical ten and then we just didn't

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Speaker 8: see him after that.

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, let's go into our final break. We

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Speaker 5: will come back. We've got a couple of injuries. I

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Speaker 5: want to just get it caught up on and then

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Speaker 5: we'll get to some practice observations. There have been a

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Speaker 5: couple of practices since our last show. I want to

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Speaker 5: get some observations from you guys. Remember, we'll get some

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Speaker 5: observations of moments and also of players that want to

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Speaker 5: come back.

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Speaker 5: All right, so let's talk about some camp observations, some

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Speaker 5: practice observations. Been a couple of practices since the time

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Speaker 5: we had our last show. This is how we do

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Speaker 5: it on the show, Tommy, we want I want you

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Speaker 5: to give me a moment that you that stood out

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Speaker 5: to you could be good, bad, whatever, can also be

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Speaker 5: a end player and then also a player that stood

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Speaker 5: out to you in one of the practices over the

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Speaker 5: last couple of days.

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Speaker 3: Let's start there.

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Speaker 8: Okay, moment that stood out was Malie Hooker in the

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Speaker 8: last practice that we saw. These are supposed to be

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Speaker 8: third practices, right, these are just tell me yeah, So

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Speaker 8: thud practice is essentially you're simulating a tackle but not

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Speaker 8: finishing it through right, You're trying to keep guys off

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Speaker 8: the ground, So you wrap up, you pick the guy

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Speaker 8: up and yeah, and then you and then you put

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Speaker 8: him down like it it's a thud.

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Speaker 3: That's really little all it is.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 8: Well, Malik Hooker did not follow that protocol when Jalen

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Speaker 8: Cropper caught the ball in the backfield in the last practice,

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Speaker 8: he just couldn't help himself. I mean he closed in

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Speaker 8: and it was just a he obliterated him. He just

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Speaker 8: threw him to the ground and ran him over. Teammates

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Speaker 8: loved it. Hooker was fired up. Brian Schottenheimer not so

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Speaker 8: much defensive Yeah, defensive teammates yeah, No, I knew it

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Speaker 8: was Brian Schottenheimer. And you know, especially especially with the

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Speaker 8: injuries that we've seen. But uh, and then player that

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Speaker 8: stood out recently it has been Cavante Turpin. I think

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Speaker 8: the last practice he had a lot of great catches

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Speaker 8: down the field, and you know, something that he needs

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Speaker 8: to do better at is one hanging on to the

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Speaker 8: ball and two not doing too much when he goes

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Speaker 8: and gets it. And I think he's still figuring out

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Speaker 8: the second part of that, which is just not jumping

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Speaker 8: in the air some times when he doesn't need to.

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Speaker 8: But he's flashing the hands and he's showing that. They

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Speaker 8: have shown at least that he's going to be a

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Speaker 8: big part of this offense. They want to get him

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Speaker 8: in space, but they can push him down the field too,

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Speaker 8: because he's going to be a hard.

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Speaker 3: Cover for a lot of corners and linebackers. Wherever you

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Speaker 3: line him up.

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Speaker 5: Yes, speaking of that real quick. I know we had

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Speaker 5: a video where we had a coach miked up. Coach

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Speaker 5: shot he miked up, and I know on mat he

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Speaker 5: was talking to Turpin at one point saying, just don't

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Speaker 5: you don't need to jump there, just yeah, stay on

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Speaker 5: your feet. That's one of the things sometimes you have

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Speaker 5: to work through with receivers is don't jump what you

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Speaker 5: don't need to. There's no reason to leave your feet

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Speaker 5: catch the ball.

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Speaker 8: And he's a smaller guy, so you know, sometimes you

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Speaker 8: feel like he feels he probably feels like he needs to.

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Speaker 8: So it's just a mental block that he's got to

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Speaker 8: get over and trust himself and trust Dak Prescott to

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Speaker 8: get him the ball in a serviceable place to where

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Speaker 8: he doesn't have to do that, right.

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Speaker 2: You know, the player. I'm going to go to the

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Speaker 2: player first. And this is I know we're focused on

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Speaker 2: this defensive tackle group and everybody seems to be focused

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Speaker 2: on Mozzie Smith and kind of what's going on. And

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Speaker 2: I think Solomon Thomas has done some really good things,

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Speaker 2: but Perry On Winfrey has been I think, really really

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Speaker 2: good in these practices. And I and I say this,

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Speaker 2: and I say this in a way of that they're

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Speaker 2: trying to kind of figure out, Okay, who's what's the

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Speaker 2: rotation going to be, and know they're going to play

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Speaker 2: with a little bit of a lighter front and they're

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Speaker 2: gonna are they going to attack. We had a chance

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Speaker 2: to visit with with Matty Eberflus yesterday he was on

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Speaker 2: the podium for the coordinators and you know, you kind

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Speaker 2: of got a little bit of an idea of how

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Speaker 2: they're going to try and play things. And he even

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Speaker 2: was talking about with Mazzie Smith everything trying to make

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Speaker 2: him a little bit quicker. So that tells me that

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Speaker 2: they are going to try and play maybe a little lighter.

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Speaker 2: But Pierryan Winfield Winfrey excuse me, has been I think

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Speaker 2: outstanding in these practices. Him and Solomon Thomas both I

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Speaker 2: mentioned them kind of together kind of a one two.

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Speaker 2: But when you talk about these three techniques, and even

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Speaker 2: more so than what I've seen from Osa, that the

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Speaker 2: way that they've been able to play up the field,

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Speaker 2: the way they've been able to attack, the way they've

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Speaker 2: been able and this is not against the backup offensive

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Speaker 2: lineman that they're doing this stuff against. These are against

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Speaker 2: against Smith and against Bebe and and against Booker as well.

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Speaker 2: So those are the things I tho those inside defensive tackles,

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Speaker 2: A lot has been put on them. But I think

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Speaker 2: you're going to get a scheme where it's going to

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Speaker 2: be really upfield more than having that big bodied guy.

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Speaker 2: Would they like to sure right now? I don't think

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Speaker 2: they have that guy. The moment for me is we

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Speaker 2: finally saw we always we saw George Pickens catch a

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Speaker 2: deep ball and you know, and we saw the ball,

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Speaker 2: I mean, dak they will, you know, take the snap,

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Speaker 2: drop back boom. And then you got Pickens working against

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Speaker 2: Israel mcwalmu down the sidelines, ball thrown perfectly the separation

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Speaker 2: to catch. You know. We had a chance to talk

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Speaker 2: to on Wind five three. The fan had a chance

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Speaker 2: to talk to Pickens. He's really excited. Yeah, the deep

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Speaker 2: ball stuff he's excited about. But you know what he's

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Speaker 2: really excited about. He's excited about a quarterback to get

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Speaker 2: him the ball on the move. That's what he is

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Speaker 2: really really looking for. He's like, listen, I everybody here

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Speaker 2: talks about my deep ball, deep ball, deep ball stuff.

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Speaker 2: But I could play on the move. And I think

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Speaker 2: we seen some stuff where he's gone some of the

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Speaker 2: crossing round stuff, dak putting the ball in front and

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Speaker 2: let him catch and let him run. So keep an

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Speaker 2: eye on that. He's excited about the deep ball stuff

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Speaker 2: which will make huge plays that we saw the other day,

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Speaker 2: but the across the field stuff has got him really

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Speaker 2: excited in this offense really quick.

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Speaker 3: I think you hit the nail on the head there.

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Speaker 8: I think George Pickens is much better after the catch

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Speaker 8: than a lot of people give him credit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, yeah my moment and I don't mean to repeat players,

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Speaker 6: but this is what has caught my eye. Cavanta Turpin.

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Speaker 6: There was a catch that he made in the end

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Speaker 6: zone and the way that he jumped like that, I

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Speaker 6: was like, bro.

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Speaker 3: What was it what he needed to jump for?

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Speaker 6: But it was so like again, granted, maybe he jumps

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Speaker 6: like this all the time and it's just that we're

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Speaker 6: not standing literally in front of the play and seeing

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Speaker 6: it happen. But I had no idea he had that

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Speaker 6: reach in him. The way that he was able to

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Speaker 6: get so high up in the air just very It

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Speaker 6: just goes back to his athleticism that we continue to

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Speaker 6: see something that you know, you talk about size and

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Speaker 6: is he makes up for the lack of size he

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Speaker 6: makes up in the ability to make these plays and

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Speaker 6: catch and he's been all over the field. So I

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Speaker 6: think he's been having such a great training camp so far.

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Speaker 6: A guy that you kind of mentioned, Brian, that I

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Speaker 6: think it's worth still talking about because he gets a

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Speaker 6: lot of hate and criticism Mazzie Smith continuously. I think

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Speaker 6: fans want to hear that he's doing better, and he

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Speaker 6: is showing up and doing and making some plays, and

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Speaker 6: you see him doing some things in the run that

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Speaker 6: has shown improvement in the way that he's been blocking.

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Speaker 6: So I think he sorry, I got flipped in the

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Speaker 6: other head. He's not blocking, attacking, attacking attacking better and

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Speaker 6: just shows the movement with more comfortness. We talked about

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Speaker 6: feeling more confident. He's another guy that I think he's

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Speaker 6: showing up here and moving around a lot better, creating

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Speaker 6: that movement that he needs to do right there.

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Speaker 2: Can I ask this question if you guys are if

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Speaker 2: just through the first week of practice or you know

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Speaker 2: as we going I know we're run two weeks, but

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Speaker 2: it's what we've seen from the practices. Top five for

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Speaker 2: me Aseraku Sanders Elam. I got Mayors leafel in this thing,

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Speaker 2: and then I have Turpin as my fifth guy. Anybody

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Speaker 2: you wo okay? I Sawomon Thomas is also a guy considered.

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00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: Peyton Turner's a guy considered. I had Winfrey as a

873
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 2: guy I considered as well. But if but is there

874
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: is there is if you had to say, you're just

875
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: your top five, top three, top two, you know, I

876
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: when Amber was talking about when she was talking about Turpin,

877
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: I thought of him as a top five guy because

878
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 2: of all the things that they're asking him to do.

879
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: And you mentioned about the jumping part of it all.

880
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: But he's he's caught the ball down the field, they

881
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: handed the ball backfield. He's doing everything that they're kind

882
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: of asking him to do. It's about time that we

883
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 2: had a coaching staff that kind of sees the talent

884
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: that they have and then try to put those players

885
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: in position to play. I know it's coach speak, but honestly,

886
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: I think they're doing it with this guy. But is

887
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: there anybody like you're your top three, four five? If

888
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: you got those guys, I'm putting on the spot a

889
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: little bit.

890
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 8: Now, that's fine, Ezaku Elam Turpin for sure, i'd have

891
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 8: ceed Lamb in there. Okay, not necessarily shocking because he's

892
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 8: Ceedee Lamb, but.

893
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 2: Kind of I expect that from Yeah, you expect.

894
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 3: It from him.

895
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 8: But even still, what he's been able to no, absolutely

896
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 8: absolutely has been really good.

897
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: Yep.

898
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 3: Man, I'm trying to think of one more.

899
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: Uh, it's terrible radio when you do this to a

900
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: little bit. I just was thinking about because I was

901
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: putting together my for my radio show. I was putting

902
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: together my guys that I really like it practice and

903
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: I think I could say CD all the time. I

904
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: think I could say say guys like that. But like

905
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 2: I said, every time I watch Murse play, he's like

906
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: his hands or he's like stepping up in the hole

907
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: and making the tackle.

908
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 3: There, I'll give you my fifth Jaden Blue.

909
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: There you go.

910
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 8: I think he's been much better between the tackles than

911
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 8: I thought he was going to be. And the biggest

912
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 8: thing for Jaden and Blue and for the Cowboys he

913
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 8: hasn't fumbled yet and he's.

914
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 2: Laughing at everybody else getting the ball knocked out their hands. Right,

915
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 2: what about him, you guys for not carrying the ball

916
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 2: very well?

917
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 3: And now, yeah, because.

918
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 8: I just jinxed him. But you know you also credit

919
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 8: this coaching staff too. You know, I had some conversations

920
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 8: with the staff earlier about you know, hey with Blue,

921
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 8: are you guys concerned at all about the the ball

922
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 8: issues like on the ball, And I was told early no,

923
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 8: we'll fix that.

924
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 3: That that's very clear that we'll fix that.

925
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 8: So you got to credit Derek Foster, the running backs coach,

926
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 8: and and everybody else on the staff for you know,

927
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 8: because you can tell them the way he's carrying the ball,

928
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 8: he's protecting the ball better than he was at Texas.

929
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 8: He would kind of just be lollygagging with the ball

930
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 8: sometimes and that's why.

931
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 3: He'd lose it.

932
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 8: But you can tell that he's made a change and

933
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 8: how he carries the football, and if you combine that

934
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 8: with what he can do cutting, and it's gonna be uh,

935
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 8: he's gonna be fun to watch.

936
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that five.

937
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 5: The one thing I would throw in and this I

938
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 5: don't think I would replace any of that five really

939
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 5: the seven when you add in the couple that you

940
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 5: threw there.

941
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Speaker 4: But I would give an honorable mention to Bebie.

942
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 5: I think I think right now, sure, some of the

943
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 5: things I've seen from him, I think he's a little

944
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 5: more in control and in command of kind of what's

945
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 5: going on with that offensive. In addition to I think

946
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 5: playing well out here again, I don't think he necessarily

947
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 5: takes some of those other people's spots, but I think

948
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 5: he's somebody that's still catching my eye.

949
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Speaker 4: And I've been really happy what svan.

950
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: Ford could have been in that five. Yeah, but then

951
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: you know, I mean he's missed the practice.

952
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 4: Schoolmaker hasn't been bad at you Maker has.

953
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: Been bad either. But I think right now, if you

954
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: said give me the top three tight ends, it's you know,

955
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: it's Ferguson, It's span Ford, and it's scoon Maker.

956
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 5: I agree with him not to take you guys backwards,

957
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 5: but I wasn't here for the tight end conversation. How

958
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 5: did you guys feel about the deal that they gave

959
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 5: to uh, to Ferguson from the standpoint of what you

960
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 5: also have no reason? No, no, no, well here's the deal.

961
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys went here, but I actually,

962
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 5: as I was thinking about it, I was like, do

963
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 5: you think that this has anything to do with what

964
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 5: they think of Schoonmaker or Brevin span Ford? Because I

965
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 5: look at those two players, and I'm like, maybe they

966
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 5: can develop into top starting caliber tight ends, but this

967
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 5: contract tells me that's probably not gonna happen, you know what.

968
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, the room. It's funny because a couple of years

969
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 2: ago we were talking about Stevens. You're like, boy, this guy,

970
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: you know, boys doing this and it's not an uphill climb,

971
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: because I think it's I do think it's I do

972
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 2: think it's Ferguson, span Ford Schoonmaker. And then now you've

973
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: got Hunter Lifke playing the really the move or the

974
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: four or the you know, I mean, I I think

975
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: it's going to be all these other guys unless they

976
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: do something really dramatic in practices or in these games.

977
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be an uphill fight for these guys.

978
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: I see some practice squad guys more so than I

979
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: see guys that are competing for the for one of

980
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: the fifty three spots.

981
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think with Ferguson like the deal, by the way,

982
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 8: But yeah, I like the deal too because he's been

983
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 8: such a good safety blanket with DAK and know, you're

984
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 8: basically putting him in line with DA Steel.

985
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: And he didn't have to pay a top tight end

986
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: right and you got.

987
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 3: The deal done early.

988
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 8: He's the seventh highest paid tight end the league, so

989
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 8: you got fairly good value for what he's done. And

990
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 8: you're and you're showing confidence in him, and that's gonna

991
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 8: boost his confidence, which I think is a big part

992
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 8: of it too. But as far as the other tight

993
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 8: ends go, I think in today's NFL, you're gonna see

994
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 8: a lot more twelve personnel and get two tight ends

995
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 8: out there, maybe even three tight ends, and you know,

996
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 8: you just you just load it up on the line

997
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 8: of scrimmage and you put two guys on one side,

998
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 8: you put two on one one on the other, and

999
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 8: whether that helps you in the run game or in

1000
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 8: the passing game, you know it's gonna help.

1001
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 3: I mean, look at what Chicago did in the draft

1002
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 3: this year.

1003
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 8: You know, they signed Cole co Met a couple of

1004
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 8: years ago, and then they go and draft Colson level

1005
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 8: into ten because they want to run more two tight

1006
00:44:59,040 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 8: end sets.

1007
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: So don't be shocked if they do that here.

1008
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 8: But yeah, I think span Forward right now as taken

1009
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,479
Speaker 8: that next step, uh and and really is showing something.

1010
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 3: So hopefully he comes back healthy.

1011
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say, like, give me

1012
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 6: one more than than just one tight end. I mean,

1013
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 6: and you're gonna have to utilize these other guys. So

1014
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 6: I think the deal. It was great. I'm glad they

1015
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 6: got that done. Please get the other one done.

1016
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 7: What are we waiting on? Like, what are we doing here?

1017
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 4: We're a fifth mic.

1018
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 3: We got room for you always.

1019
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 7: Why don't you make a sign? Why don't you give

1020
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 7: me a heads up that he's walking right behind.

1021
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 5: Us, like you were saying anything you were saying he

1022
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 5: would hate the coaching staff.

1023
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 4: Like it wasn't like you were saying something.

1024
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: He actually actually he was doing his best version of

1025
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: Spider Man climbing.

1026
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 6: The wall fighting over here. Okay, well next time let

1027
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 6: me and I'll lower my boys.

1028
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 5: Was already pop up and just like just gonna help

1029
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 5: me out. I mean, Chris, we're not ending the show.

1030
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 4: We're gonna go.

1031
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: I know my place, I'll step out.

1032
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: All right.

1033
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 3: That's a wrap.

1034
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 5: We appreciate you guys. Join usday on Friday. We'll wrap

1035
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 5: it up for Brian because Brian will be heading back

1036
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 5: to Dallas. We'll get into next week. We've got a

1037
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Speaker 5: special guest next week coming to join us. Nick Harris,

1038
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 5: who used to be a part of this show, is

1039
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 5: going to be joining us next week for a couple

1040
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 5: of our shows, uh, and then the show will flip

1041
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 5: back to Dallas the final week of Camp.

1042
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 4: I will be the only one left out here.

1043
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 5: I'm gonna hold it down and do all the work

1044
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 5: for a week when the Amber's back and the rest

1045
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 5: of the guys will be back there, so they will

1046
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 5: do the show from back in Dallas the final.

1047
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 4: Week and then we'll be into it.

1048
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 5: We'll be ready to go all right for the crew.

1049
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 5: For Brian brought us Amber Garcia for Tommy Yarsh. Happy

1050
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 5: birthday to Tommy. We appreciate you guys joining us, and

1051
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 5: we'll be back next I'm sorry on Friday for the

1052
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Speaker 5: next show.

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Speaker 2: Of the Break.

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