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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, sorry, ho, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh.

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Speaker 2: There's Chuck. Jerry's here too. All the little elves are

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Speaker 2: around us, watching us, adoringly waiting for us to begin

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Speaker 2: this twenty twenty three holiday special episode of Stuff You

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Speaker 2: Should Know. Hooray, hooray Chuck. Indeed, it's our Christmas episode.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, our ad free Christmas episode, right, yes, it better

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Speaker 3: be for sure.

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Speaker 2: We'll find out after we publish.

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Speaker 3: Oh goodness, boyd I mean did we even order these?

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Speaker 3: Should we just freewheel it?

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, we're getting to it all, are you?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 2: I wanted to kind of meander for a little bit,

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Speaker 2: but sure.

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Speaker 3: Now we give me ander. What do you want to

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Speaker 3: chat about?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. How's the family?

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Speaker 3: They're doing great? You know. This is actually a I

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Speaker 3: don't want to say too much, but let me just

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Speaker 3: say that this is a there's a turning point for

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Speaker 3: my daughter this year at Christmas, A very big revelation.

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Speaker 3: Oh my, that's all I'm going to say. I always

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Speaker 3: wondered when it was going to happen, and it happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is everything.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm fine. Actually, Emily was a little more upset

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Speaker 3: than I was. Yeah, and I was just like, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, well, I'll talk to you offline, but everyone

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Speaker 3: knows what I'm talking about, right.

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Speaker 2: I think, so hopefully just everyone. Yeah, well, let's just

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Speaker 2: stop this right now.

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Speaker 3: It's still going to be a great Christmas regardless. I

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Speaker 3: all agreed on that.

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Speaker 2: Good and this is going to be a great Christmas

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Speaker 2: episode despite that beginning.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you know, let's start with I'm gonna go ahead

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Speaker 3: and call let's just take turns. How about that?

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're going to call an audible each time.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I'm going to call an audible each time on

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Speaker 3: my own picks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well you go first. How about that? Because yes,

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Speaker 2: everybody in classic stuff you should know fashion. Chuck and

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Speaker 2: I each picked a few Christmas pieces to talk about, yea,

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Speaker 2: and then we sent them to one another and did

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Speaker 2: not discuss what order we should do them. And so

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Speaker 2: we're going to do that as we go along. That's

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Speaker 2: what Chuck's talking about right.

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Speaker 3: Now, That's right. And so the first thing I found,

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Speaker 3: and another fun thing about the Christmas episode is that

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Speaker 3: it allows us to get our sources, our sources become

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Speaker 3: a little more relaxed our rigor like where we get stuff,

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Speaker 3: because sometimes for Christmas stuff, you just get stuff from

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Speaker 3: some of the wackiest websites and that's fine. Yeah, this

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Speaker 3: one actually wasn't wacky. This was USA Today. That's legit, right,

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Speaker 3: it's a little wacky. This is from twenty twelve from

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Speaker 3: Craig Wilson. What are you doing on Christmas Day? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: depends on where you are. And this is just a

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Speaker 3: little survey they did because I was always curious about

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Speaker 3: different traditions and different parts of the United States and

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Speaker 3: poll they did eleven years ago.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Civic Science did a poll. Well, they didn't do

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Speaker 2: a poll. They apparently found a bunch of other polls

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Speaker 2: that totaled ninety thousand responses of Americans responding to questions

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Speaker 2: roughly about what they're going to do around Christmas time,

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Speaker 2: and they released it. They put it all together and said, hey,

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Speaker 2: get this. It turns out depending on your region, each

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Speaker 2: or don't do around Christmas time. Let's rap about them.

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Speaker 2: And Craig Wilson said, yes, let's that's right.

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Speaker 3: So we're going to go over some of the highlights here.

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Speaker 3: If you're in the Midwest, Oh, I don't know, let's

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Speaker 3: say Michigan or Ohio or what else is in the midwest, Chicago.

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Speaker 2: They also are the least likely to have a work

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Speaker 3: Not bad. And as far as gifts on Christmas Eve,

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Speaker 2: We did not when I was a kid.

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Speaker 2: the Northeast, including Wyoming and Maine, they apparently party all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty nine percent, I think work, and I guess

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Midwesterners are odd folk.

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Speaker 3: Christmas parties are big, though. Sixty four percent of Southerners

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Speaker 3: Everyone knows we like to bragget about our month off.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I think thirty eight percent of them go

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Speaker 3: All right, where are we headed next to my friend?

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Speaker 2: Oh jeez, it's my turn again? Or already? I guess.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Darlene Love Chuck.

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Speaker 3: Treasure.

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Speaker 2: But first let's do a little intercitial Christmas music.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thanks for that, Chuck, by the way, But we're

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Speaker 2: talking about Darlene Love, who was part of the Wall

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Speaker 2: of Sound, was one of Phil Spector's finds and someone

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Speaker 2: Phil Spector took advantage of two. But she's most well

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Speaker 2: known for her Christmas song Christmas and in parentheses, baby

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Speaker 2: Please Come Home.

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Speaker 3: You know the song, right, it's a great, great song.

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Speaker 3: You might know her as Murtaw's wife from the Lethal

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Speaker 3: Weapon movies. Oh really, Yeah, she was Danny Lover's wife.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, nice, that's a nice link. Another place you

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Speaker 2: from nineteen eighty six to twenty fourteen, when Letterman retired,

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Speaker 2: Darlene Love came out and sang her Christmas baby Please

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty amazing tradition. And Dave isn't one that had

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Speaker 2: He came out of a present once a giant president,

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Speaker 2: like it was really great. Everybody loved it. And apparently

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Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, Darlene Love took this tradition over to the

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Speaker 3: we'll pay you money for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we really like this song. There's a bunch of

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Speaker 2: So you found a bunch of different worst Christmas songs.

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Speaker 3: Well? I have now I had to listen to it

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Speaker 3: Missletoe by Justin Biber. Everyone's gathering around the fire, chestnuts

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Speaker 3: And this last bit we're gonna include is not a poll,

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Speaker 3: I like a lot of the waitresses. I love that song.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure I've asked you this before, but do you

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Speaker 3: I like it all. What about you?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I found something recently. I think I found

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Speaker 2: I think my favorite vocal Christmas music would be Johnny

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think you should say that every year because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Fronte and Tiker definitely deserve their shout out every year.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for that, Chuck All.

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Speaker 3: Right, let's hop in that sled and get going.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Chuck, I am up, and I'm going to go

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Speaker 2: with Gosh is only my second pick so far, I think.

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Speaker 2: of Christmas drink every year, and we blew through like

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00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 2: all of the famous ones pretty quickly, so we've had

439
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: to really kind of start looking around. And this year

440
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 2: we found what I think is a pretty good one

441
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 2: that I'd never heard before, and I think it's worth sharing.

442
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 2: It's from our friends at Olive Magazine, and it's they

443
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: call it a Christmas degrony, and it sounds pretty boss.

444
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 3: I'm all in on this. This sounds really good.

445
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: We'll tell him about the spiced gin.

446
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 3: Well. I mean, that's the key to this thing, I think,

447
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 3: because otherwise you have a fairly traditional negroni, but you

448
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 3: have to spice that gin. My good friend Eddie, he

449
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 3: hasn't done a with gin yet, but every year he

450
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 3: makes his own little infused holiday boozes and it's a

451
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 3: really nice treat and he brings them around and gives

452
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: bottles out to people. But I'm going to request gin

453
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 3: from Eddie this year because this sounds great.

454
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, So for the Christmas de grony from all of

455
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 2: magazine there're spiced gin is five hundred milileaders of gin.

456
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: That's right between a half pint and a pint, so

457
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: I guess three quarters of a No, it's between. It's

458
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: half of a leader, now that I think about it, Well, it.

459
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 3: Depends on how much genuine. You know, how many these

460
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 3: drinks you want. You can get any kind of bottle

461
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 3: of genu wint for sure.

462
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: So let's just say you take half a lider of gin, okay,

463
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: and you put two centnamon sticks, two stars, four cloves,

464
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 2: four cardamom pop pods crushed, that's very important, two bay

465
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: leaves fresh if you got them, and two strips of

466
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: orange peel, and if you've got some cheese cloth. You

467
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: might want to put everything in there. It'll probably make

468
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: the whole thing a lot easier. But if not, don't

469
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: sweat it. You can put it all in that gin

470
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: in a big old mason jar, half liter mason jar

471
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: and leave it for about two days, maybe less than

472
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 2: two days, one to two and then you strain it

473
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 2: out and what you have there is your spice gin,

474
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 2: and like you said, that's kind of like the main

475
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: ingredient of this Christmas Negroni.

476
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean from there you go fairly traditional negrony

477
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,959
Speaker 3: with the campari and the sweet vermouth, but instead of

478
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 3: you can do your little orange twist, which I believe

479
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 3: is a traditional Negrony garnish. Yeah, but since you've spiced

480
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 3: it up, you can also add another cinnamon stick or

481
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: another little is it star annis or anise? I never

482
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 3: know how to say that.

483
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: I think both are fine, all.

484
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 3: Right, put both in there and that'll just add it

485
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: even a little more pop there at the end, for sure.

486
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 2: I mean, nothing says it's the Holidays better than handing

487
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 2: somebody a cocktail with a cinnamon stick sticking out of it.

488
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: That really drives the point.

489
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 3: Home, right, Yeah, I love it.

490
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: And also Negroni's are super easy to make. You just

491
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: pour equal parts of the gin, campari and sweet vermouth,

492
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 2: usually about three quarters of an ounce or twenty five milliliters,

493
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: and you just pour that over ice in the glass,

494
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: stir it up a little bit, and you've got a nigrotny.

495
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: And if you've ever had a negroni and you've been like,

496
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: this is all bit boozy for me. I found also

497
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: an alternative negroni I think also from all of magazine

498
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: that they suggest just take out the gin and put

499
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: in prosecco instead, and you've got yourself a much lighter

500
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 2: negroni that also would do really well with a nice

501
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 2: cinnamon stick sticking out of it.

502
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen. I've had quite a few cocktails over

503
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 3: the past year that have prosecco or a white wine

504
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 3: as the boozy ingredient to what would ordinarily be just

505
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 3: a cocktail, and it's interesting. I like it.

506
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 2: Yeah. Same here. Also, I think I said on our

507
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: tomorrow episode that I was going to try Capelletti, which

508
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: was supposedly like a better version of Campari. Well I did,

509
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 2: and I'm here to tell you just use Kampari. It's

510
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 2: so much better, so much better.

511
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 3: I went into, Uh, there's an amazing spirit store here

512
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 3: in Atlanta, and I went in and asked for which one.

513
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 3: It is, the Elemental Spirits Company, and it is right

514
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 3: across from Buddies and Videodrome there at North Avenue. You

515
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 3: know where that is. Yeah, sure, next to Emmanuel's Tavern. Okay,

516
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 3: and it's great. They're they're very highly curated, really good,

517
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 3: good stuff like that you don't find in regular liquor stores.

518
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 3: But I went in and asked for an tomorrow. I said,

519
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: gimme a couple. I said, give me, gimme one really

520
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 3: accessible and give me the bitterest thing that you have.

521
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and I can't remember the name of it.

522
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 3: I'll have to post about it later. But this stuff

523
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: is it's almost like melort. It's so medicinal and.

524
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: Bitter, Like you say why after each sip.

525
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: I mean, I like it, but it's really like I've

526
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: leapt into the bitter zone and this one's testing my limits.

527
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, if we're shouting out incredibly well curated liquor

528
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: stores in Atlanta, I definitely want to shout out Eah

529
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: and F Bottle Shop over by Peachtree Battle. It's so good.

530
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 3: Oh, we'll have to check that one out too.

531
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: That's also the kind of place you could just walk

532
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 2: into and say I want to try something like this,

533
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 2: and they'll give it to you.

534
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love stores like that where you just sort

535
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: of trust in their expertise. Yeah, it's the best. I

536
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 3: also want to shout out if you are big on like,

537
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: you know, cocktail syrups and stuff like that to spice

538
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 3: up a drink. Sure, I bought one the other day

539
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 3: that I'd never heard of. It was a sweet potato

540
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 3: oh syrup, and it is so good with whiskey.

541
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: That sounds good just to drink on its own.

542
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: It's great. It doesn't taste like, oh, like I'm drinking

543
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 3: a sweet potato. It just it makes it more, you know,

544
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: because there's other spices that just it's like a nice

545
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 3: holiday whiskey cocktail basically. Man, it's just really yummy.

546
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: Where'd you find that?

547
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 3: This was a Decatur package on Clairemont, so like.

548
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: You can find it probably nationwide.

549
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, people are local. I think

550
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 3: it's a local one, so I wish I had a

551
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 3: bottle in front of me, But you know, locally, there's

552
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: probably all kinds of people in your urban center that

553
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 3: are making their own shrubs and bitters and syrups.

554
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 2: Well, I gotta find that one because it sounds pretty delish.

555
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I'll send you some.

556
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: I'd love that, Chuck. I love pre presents from you,

557
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 2: especially around Christmas time. All Right, great drink great drink

558
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: agreed thanks to our friends of Olive Magazine. And here

559
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: we go, hopping along back in the sleigh, out in

560
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: the snow, putting on our white faux fur fringed frocks

561
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: and going on to the next section.

562
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 3: I guess we'll go with how to make your Christmas

563
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 3: tree last longer. That this is a personal one, because

564
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 3: I have had bad luck to past couple of years

565
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: with our trees dying way too early. And I think

566
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: it's because I was sort of stuck on using the

567
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 3: Christmas tree stand I grew up with mm which, compared

568
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 3: to today's stands, had not much room for the tree

569
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: trunk itself and certainly didn't hold that much water. So

570
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: I finally my mom got me one of those gigantic

571
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: things that holds gallons of water. Yeah, and I think

572
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: it was the right choice because it's doing much much

573
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: better this year.

574
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: Well, that's definitely one of the keys that Better Homes

575
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: and Gardens recommends is getting a stand that fits.

576
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got it. You gotta those old school ones

577
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: that hold like three cups of water.

578
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: No good, no, because your tree is still alive even

579
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: though you've cut it down, so it drinks up the water.

580
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: And in addition to having a tree that holds a

581
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: bunch of water and that fits the trunk, you want

582
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: to keep that water level like basically high every day.

583
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: You want to check it basically every day because the

584
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: trunk needs to be pretty much submerged in water to

585
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: keep that tree going for the month of December.

586
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I always heard, you know, pour some sprite

587
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 3: or some sugar in there, and I never was sure

588
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 3: if that was true. But there are tree people who say,

589
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 3: if you put like a half a cup of granulated

590
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 3: sugar to about five gallons of water and a half

591
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: a cup of vinegar, yeah, then that's gonna nourish that tree.

592
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: It's going to preserve the sap, and that vinegar is

593
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: going to be a pH stabilizer that's gonna ward off

594
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: bacteria and rot.

595
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's the thing. You've got a reservoir of

596
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: water in your living room and your living room has

597
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: its heater on. That can be a bad combination. I've

598
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: also seen you can throw some pennies in there too

599
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: to help adjust the pH as well and keep bacteria

600
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 2: from growing.

601
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: But you want to pennies?

602
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: Do you want to mix us all up? Five gallons

603
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: of water. Just so happens that those orange home depot

604
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: buckets are five gallons. You go out in your garage,

605
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: put five gallons of water in there, half a cup

606
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: of vinegar, half a cup of sugar. Mix it all

607
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: up and you use that to top off your Christmas

608
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: tree stand water every day.

609
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: I love it if you got a kid, assign them

610
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: that task because they are much more apt to be

611
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 3: able to crawl under that tree. And it's special and fun.

612
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 3: And they think they are helping. They think they're helping,

613
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 3: and they are helping.

614
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: They definitely are helping. What else? Man like? A lot

615
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: of people also have ill fitting Christmas tree stands that

616
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: are too small, and they carve off some of the trunk.

617
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: They shave off some of the sides to make it fit.

618
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: Jam it in there right, No good, No, apparently you

619
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 3: need the sides of the trunk that helps it stay alive.

620
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: You do want to cut, you know there is something

621
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: too trimming some just off the bottom of the trunk.

622
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 3: They'll usually do that for you where you buy your

623
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: Christmas tree. If they say I love this article from

624
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: Better Homes and Garden says, shave off two centimeters like

625
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: that that's like it's barely the width of a chainsaw blade.

626
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: It's three quarters of an inch. I looked it up.

627
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: Oh okay, well I guess that's bigger than I thought.

628
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I know, we're not super metric here everybody

629
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: in the United States.

630
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 3: But you do want to cut a little bit off

631
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: the trunk, not too much. But you know that sap

632
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: starts forming. It's like a scab almost right within hours

633
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: of cutting the tree down. It tries to form a

634
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: scab and that's gonna seal it up on the bottom.

635
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: So that's why they trim it up for you at

636
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 3: the Christmas tree place, because it's going to be much

637
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 3: easier to suck water up.

638
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: Yes, Also, this is a great excuse for you to

639
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: buy a bow saw too and take that home, and

640
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: then you can cut the little two centimeters off the

641
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: bottom of the trunk yourself so it'll be as fresh

642
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: as possible. So the key is trim somem off the bottom,

643
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: but not off the sides of the bottom of the trunk,

644
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: because that bark is really good at sucking up water,

645
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: and you want to make sure this thing can take

646
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: as much water as possible so that it stays fresh

647
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: as long as possible.

648
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also be discerning when you go to pick

649
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: out that tree to begin with. Don't don't just fall

650
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: for what looks the prettiest you got to You gotta

651
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: feel those branches a little bit. If it's getting crispy

652
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: at all in the lot, then you're in big trouble already.

653
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 3: So give it, you know, run your hand along it,

654
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: give a little hug, give a little feel, give a

655
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: little tug, and make sure everything smells really fresh, make

656
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 3: sure that bark is very smooth, and make sure that

657
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: you know the branches themselves feel not breakable but pliable

658
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: at that point exactly.

659
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: So, Also when you get at home, drying out the

660
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: tree is not good. You don't want to accelerate drying

661
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: it out. It's already getting dried enough being indoors, out

662
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: of any humidity that might be around, and then near

663
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: heat sources, so you want to not only just keep

664
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: it topped up with water, you want to keep it

665
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: away from heat as much as possible. And apparently even

666
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: going with led lights will have a substantial effect on

667
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: keeping the tree from drying out because they put out

668
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: so much less heat than traditional incandescent lights. Doe.

669
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, good idea, and most of them these days are

670
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: led I think.

671
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 2: And then yeah, they're definitely easy to come by at least,

672
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 2: and then chuck afterward, after the holidays have gone, after

673
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: the last ornaments put up, and the last piece of

674
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: tinsel that you're going to bother taking off has been

675
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: taken off, even though there's a few strands left. What

676
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: are you going to do with that tree to help

677
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 2: your local wildlife?

678
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 3: Well, your township or your county probably has a recycling

679
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: situation going on. That is certainly a great way to

680
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 3: dispose of your tree. But you can also if you

681
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 3: live in a wooded area, you can just put lean

682
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 3: that thing up against another tree in the woods and

683
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: that can become a little shelter or a home for wildlife.

684
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: For sure. You don't even have to live in a

685
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: wooded area. You can throw it in your backyard on

686
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: that side, Yeah, and rabbits would be like, thank you

687
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: very much, I appreciate it.

688
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 3: Or you can strip it, you can like trim off

689
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 3: the branches and lay those downs as mult at the

690
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 3: base of garden plants and stuff like that. Yeah, or

691
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 3: do what I do already gave myself away is that

692
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 3: my friends throw them all in the back of my

693
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 3: pickup truck and we let them dry to a crispy brown,

694
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 3: then throw them on campfires for quite a fireworks show.

695
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 2: Very nice, indeed, but do it safely, oh for sure,

696
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: And make sure you haven't already invited the rabbits in

697
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: to live there. You want to stomp the tree a

698
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: few times on the ground to shake out any rabbits

699
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: that might have taken up residence before you throw it

700
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: on the campfire. That's right, Okay, Well, I say it's

701
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: time to move on. We got a couple left. Both

702
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: of them are mine, it turns out, so I'm going

703
00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 2: to share one with you. So you pick the last one. Okay, okay,

704
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: I'd be picking the last one for you by picking

705
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: the second to last.

706
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 3: I was waiting for you to catch on here.

707
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 2: But Chuck, let's get back in our sleigh and go

708
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 2: on to the next segment where we'll talk about an

709
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: alternative Christmas movie. Okay, Chuck, So there are plenty of

710
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: Christmas movies out there that are straight ahead Christmas movies.

711
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: The point is about Christmas, about maybe learning the spirit

712
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 2: of Christmas, about getting a toy, about running into Santa

713
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: who knows. But there's also alternative Christmas movies that take

714
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: place around Christmas and just Buy Proxy are technically Christmas movies,

715
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: and at least one of them is a classic horror movie,

716
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 2: which arguably gave us the slasher horror genre. Nineteen seventy

717
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: four's Black.

718
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 3: Christmas, Yeah, from Bob Clark, who has made three classic films,

719
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 3: Black Christmas, A Christmas Story, and Porky's.

720
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. He made two Christmas films. One of them was

721
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: a Christmas Story, the other was a slasher film called

722
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: Black Christmas.

723
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: Isn't that Nuts and Porkies?

724
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. I never saw Porky's. My mom would have died

725
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: before she let me see Porky's and I still have

726
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: never seen it.

727
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 3: I saw it years later because I just felt I

728
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: had to to make up for my restricted childhood. And

729
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 3: it's not great. But what is pretty great is Black Christmas.

730
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: It is It's subtle in a lot of ways, as

731
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: far as a slasher movie can go. It's about as

732
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: subtle as it can get. Bob Clark has said a

733
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: lot of people have written film crit on this, like

734
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: people consider Black Christmas a masterpiece an a plus. Some

735
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: people think it's their favorite movie of all time. And

736
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: the reason why is because rather than going with like

737
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: straight ahead gore and like traditional horror that would come

738
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: years later in the slasher genre, Bob Clark went with

739
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: more suggested stuff and eeriness, and he went with terror

740
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: over horror and building up dread and fear in like

741
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: legitimate ways. And what's more, one of the things he

742
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: did that really differentiated Black Christmas from the slasher films

743
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: to come is you never actually see the killer the

744
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: entire movie. You see his eye in one scene and

745
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 2: that's the most you see of them. And then even

746
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: more than that, he never gets caught. He's still around

747
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: at the end.

748
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's a I really liked it. I

749
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: covered this on movie Crush. It was either it was

750
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 3: either our like a horror movie roundtable with some of

751
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: our colleagues, or it may have been a Christmas episode.

752
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 3: But that's when I watched it. I hadn't seen it

753
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: before that, and it is It is really good. And

754
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: it was also sort of a landmark movie in that

755
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 3: it established a couple of things. I mean, first of all,

756
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: like you said, some people, you can make an argument

757
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 3: that it is one of if not the first slasher movie.

758
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 3: Some people say like Psycho and stuff like that, or

759
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 3: Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which was released weeks before this, But

760
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 3: you could you can make an argument that the kind

761
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 3: of prototypical slasher movie in that like one person dies

762
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 3: after another, you know, very slowly working his way through

763
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: a group of friends that you know, Black Christmas was

764
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy four, and that was, you know, four years

765
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 3: before Halloween came out.

766
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the premise of the movie is set in

767
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: a sorority house over Christmas break, So there's a limited

768
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: number of people not only at the sorority house but

769
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: on campus in general. And that's definitely part of the

770
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: eeriness that that Bob Clark uses, just that feeling for

771
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: anybody who's ever been on campus like during the summer

772
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 2: or during a holiday break. It's just strange how quiet

773
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: it is, and that's part of the whole thing. But

774
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: they're stalked by an unknown phone caller who's calling them

775
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 2: with like deeply obscene phone calls. Ye that they typically

776
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: like in typical seventies fashion, just kind of like like

777
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 2: laugh off or dismiss or like you know, they say

778
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: lude things back to the guy. H yeah, but slowly,

779
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: but surely they all start to be murdered one by

780
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: one in this house.

781
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was also speaking of those calls, it's

782
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: one of the other big landmark things is And I

783
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 3: hope I'm not wrong, but I think this was the

784
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 3: first movie where they said the call was coming from

785
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 3: inside the house.

786
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the urban legend existed already, but this

787
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: was the first movie to do that.

788
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the movies didn't invent that trope, but

789
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 3: the movies made use of the urban legend trope.

790
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, far as I know, it was the first one.

791
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 3: I think so, because When a Stranger Calls was after this,

792
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 3: and that was the other big one where they said

793
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 3: that line.

794
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: Man that movie. Few movies have meandered more than a

795
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: When a Stranger Calls? Have you seen When a Stranger

796
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: Calls back? No, it's even more meandering than the first one.

797
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, but.

798
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: It's a good movie. Black Christmas is if you're interested

799
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 2: in a horror movie. And again, like the I don't

800
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 2: want to call them prank calls, the obscene phone calls

801
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: are very obscene, So don't watch this movie with your kids.

802
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: But if you're interested in something that is definitely set

803
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: around Christmas, and Christmas is kind of an extra character

804
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 2: in the movie. That's not your typical Christmas movie. And

805
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: you're into horror, this might be right up your alley.

806
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, then seventy four version. There have been two remakes.

807
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 3: The two thousand and six one was very gory and terrible.

808
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: I didn't see it, but I did see the twenty nineteen.

809
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 3: I thought it was pretty good.

810
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: Oh really, Okay, yeah, I haven't seen either. I've just

811
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: seen the original, And I said, some people say it's

812
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 2: their favorite movie. At least two pretty big celebrities counted

813
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 2: it as their favorite movie, didn't they. That's right, man, Yeah,

814
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: Elvis was one.

815
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 3: You know. I actually around Grace Lamb man. Watch that

816
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 3: movie about those schrority girls is pretty good.

817
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: Wow, that was really good, Elvis. Can you do it

818
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: really good? Steve Martin? No, I can't either.

819
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: Steve Martin loves it though. That's pretty wild and crazy.

820
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, Olivia Hussey's in it. Apparently he met her years later.

821
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: He's like, oh my god, you're in one of my

822
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 2: favorite movies of all time, and she thought he was

823
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: gonna tell her Romeo and Juliet like the nineteen sixties version.

824
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: He said, you're in Black Christmas and she was like, what, Yeah,

825
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 2: one of your favorite movies.

826
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's amazing.

827
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: So that's it, everybody, Black Christmas, and we're gonna get

828
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: in that sleigh one last time this episode for this

829
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: Christmas Spectacular and go on to the last segment, which

830
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 2: Chuck is going to pick for us.

831
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for driving. By the way, I've had a

832
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 3: couple of too many negronies. That infused gen has hitting

833
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: me hard, So thanks for taking the reins.

834
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 2: That's all right. I don't mind being the DD. Sometimes

835
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: next year it's you though.

836
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you found this great thing about Christmas card etiquette

837
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: from the Merrily McKee Etiquette School. And we may have

838
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 3: talked about this before. I've never we have never sent

839
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 3: out a Christmas card as a family.

840
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: I don't remember you saying that.

841
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just we never did it. I don't know why,

842
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 3: Probably because we're lazy. Emily was always her very very

843
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: busy during the holiday season with her business, for sure

844
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 3: the busiest time of the year, and so that would

845
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 3: have fallen to me, and I never have really had

846
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: much of an interest in doing it myself. But I

847
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: love getting them and I'm one of those people that

848
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 3: likes to display them.

849
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 2: Okay, So if you ever decided to start sending Christmas cards,

850
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: after you hear this Merrily McKee's Etiquette School's list of

851
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: Christmas Card etiquette, you will be well prepared for how

852
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: to navigate the travails of Christmas card sending.

853
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 3: Chuck, all right, get us going. When should we be

854
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 3: sending these things?

855
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 2: So you want to send a Christmas card technically for

856
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: it to arrive by January fifth, because you have until

857
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: the end of the twelve days of Christmas for your

858
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: Christmas card to arrive in the twelve days of Christmas,

859
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: start on Christmas and go till January fifth, which is

860
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: three Kings day. That's the traditional way, like if you

861
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: were sending a card in nineteen oh three, that was

862
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 2: your time limit. Now it's like much more abbreviated because

863
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: people like you like to display Christmas cards. So you

864
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 2: want to get them to people by I think December fifth, fifteenth.

865
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, if you're getting if you're purposely sending your

866
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 3: Christmas cards, so they go out by January fourth, everyone

867
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: that gets that Christmas card will say a little late huh.

868
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: Kind of January fifth, you know. I mean it's like

869
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Speaker 2: literally the next year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's sort of like you said the old school,

871
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: like by January fifth. They also say sort of back

872
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 3: in the day that you didn't typically send them to

873
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: your close friends and neighbors or colleagues that you will

874
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 3: see right over Christmas. It was sort of a way

875
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 3: to say like, Hi, I don't live near you and

876
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 3: we aren't in like regular touch, so here's our family.

877
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: But that certainly has gone away too, because you can

878
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: send Christmas cards to anybody at any nun at any time.

879
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 3: But sent them in July that would be really weird.

880
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 3: But send them to anybody. You can send them to

881
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 3: your next door neighbor and it's not like they'll think like,

882
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 3: well that's weird. I see them every day.

883
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. Merrily mckithays, these days it's not rude to give

884
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: anyone who celebrates Christmas a Christmas card, even if you

885
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 2: see that person regularly. And I would argue the people

886
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: you see regularly are the ones you would most want

887
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: to send a Christmas card to these days, because everybody's

888
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: so neurotic and insecure.

889
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 3: I know, I well, I mean, would this make you insecure?

890
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: What if you get a Christmas card every year from us.

891
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 3: Let's say we were sending them to you and Momo

892
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 3: and you me, and all of a sudden we didn't.

893
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: I okay, I'm just playing a part here because I

894
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: actually wouldn't do this. I would come to you and say, hey,

895
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 2: we didn't get a card this year? Is everything okay

896
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 2: between us? And what would you say in return? As

897
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: far as Merrily McKee's Etiquette school.

898
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: Suggests, well, I would say. I could say a number

899
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: of things, but one thing I could say is, well,

900
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: you know what, my friend money's little tighter this year.

901
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 3: We had to cut down and send about half as

902
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 3: many Christmas cards as usual.

903
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 2: And I say, oh, okay, I was part of a

904
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: huge culling of people.

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Speaker 3: I can live with that exactly. That's supposedly the nice

906
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 3: way if you want to drop someone from your list

907
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 3: is to not just drop one person, but you know

908
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 3: you're probably dropping a lot at once.

909
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: Well, I think if you read between the lines, Merrily

910
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: McKee's saying, even if you're just dropping one person, tell

911
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: them they were tell them like half the list that

912
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 2: you cut. So if somebody tells you are part of

913
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: half the list, now that you hear that, you'll know

914
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: that there's no telling whether you were half of the

915
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: list or not.

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00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, kids, that's called a lie to spare someone's feelings,

917
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 3: and that can be Okay.

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00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: That's right. So if you want to cut somebody from

919
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: your Christmas card list, how do you go about cutting them? Chuck, Like,

920
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 2: what decisions do you need to make?

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00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I guess you wouldn't put their name

922
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 3: on an envelope.

923
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: Okay, how would you decide? I think is what I'm

924
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 2: trying to say?

925
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 3: More specifically, Well, I mean I wouldn't do that to

926
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: any senior member of your extended network because oftentimes our

927
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 3: older friends maybe a little lonelier, and this card might

928
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: really be a big deal for them.

929
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Merrily McKee makes a really great point that some

930
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,959
Speaker 2: of your older adult friends or family members probably aren't

931
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: on social media, or there's a good chance they're not,

932
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 2: so getting a Christmas card in the mail is a

933
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: big deal to them. Yeah, and they're probably don't have

934
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: they probably don't have emails, so they're not going to

935
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: get an e card. So not only do you want

936
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: to keep the older people on your list, you also

937
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 2: want to add in their Christmas card like an extra

938
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: special note. Maybe, Yeah, Christmas drawing from your kid, because

939
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: it is going to mean a lot more to them

940
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: than you're you know, forty year old go go go, single,

941
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: childless executive brother is going to it's going to mean

942
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 2: to him.

943
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Speaker 3: You maybe, you know, maybe if someone doesn't send you

944
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 3: a Christmas card and not as like a revenge, but

945
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 3: if you're just looking to cut back on the number,

946
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 3: maybe you don't want to do it to the people

947
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 3: who like every single year they send you one, but.

948
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: You could do it as revenge too. I mean that works.

949
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: I guess. There are no rules.

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00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean that's there's there's some If somebody

951
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: stops or if you send somebody a card also and

952
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: they don't send you a card in return for two

953
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: years in a row, they're off. They're done dead to

954
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 2: you for sure. You don't even talk to them when

955
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: you see them during the rest of the year. Yeah,

956
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: Because that's the thing that people don't realize is when

957
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: you take someone off your Christmas card list, you're not

958
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: allowed to talk to them any longer. So really you

959
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: need to decide pretty pretty you really need to give

960
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: us some thought, I guess is what I'm saying do

961
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 2: you want this person out of your life forever?

962
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely?

963
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

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00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 3: And you said earlier something very key that you can

965
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 3: send a Christmas card to anybody these days who celebrates Christmas,

966
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: And that is very key because unless you know that

967
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 3: your Jewish or Muslim friends really enjoy the Christmas card thing,

968
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 3: then probably don't send them a Christmas card. Maybe a

969
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 3: high how you're doing it's it's winter card.

970
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 2: Sure, Or you could send your Jewish friends a Hanika

971
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 2: card or your Muslim friends an idolph a tier card,

972
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 2: which is the last day of Ramadan. I'm probably not

973
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 2: pronouncing that correctly.

974
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Would they appreciate that? Or would they be like,

975
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 3: oh please?

976
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: I think they would appreciate it. I think most people would.

977
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 2: Maybe your your cynical Jewish friends or your cynical Muslim

978
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 2: friends might might be like oh please, But I think

979
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Speaker 2: for the most part we'd be like, wow, that was

980
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 2: really thoughtful.

981
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Or maybe they think you're like, just oh, I

982
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 3: see what Chuck's doing here.

983
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 2: He's buttering me up to hit me up for money.

984
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 2: In June.

985
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 3: Something's going on.

986
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, something's coming. So that's it for Christmas cards, and geez, Chuck,

987
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: I mean that's it for the whole holiday episode, isn't it.

988
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: I'm starting to talk slowly because I don't want it

989
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: to end.

990
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 3: I know, and you know what, I am a little

991
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 3: worried about next year because the Christmas reservoir is genuinely

992
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 3: getting thin.

993
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 2: Well, we'll have to send an alert out to our

994
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: Christmas idea helper Elves Robert Paulson and Alex Stock, who

995
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: usually send us ideas they need to step it up

996
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: for this year.

997
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 3: Robert sennis one this year? Which one did he send it?

998
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 3: Did we use it?

999
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: I didn't see one from him.

1000
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 3: No, Oh I may have used it. Oh, let me

1001
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 3: look while you wind things down with glad tidings.

1002
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: Oh okay, well everybody, well Chuck does that. I want

1003
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: to say from all of us, it's if you should know,

1004
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: from Chuck and me, from Jerry, from Dave, from Ben,

1005
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 2: from everybody who's ever been involved with stuff, you should

1006
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: know we wish you the happiest of holidays, The merriest

1007
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: of Christmas is the happiest upon it because the happiest

1008
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 2: of everything. We hope this is a wonderful season of

1009
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: plaid tidings, joy, super boozy eggnog and just goodness in general,

1010
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 2: even just for a few days around the Christmas time.

1011
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 2: So thank you very much for joining us and sitting

1012
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 2: with us. Hopefully this sets you off. I'm the greatest

1013
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: Christmas ever.

1014
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: Boy, you did a great job killing time. Thanks Ma,

1015
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 3: that's genuine. We actually did not use Robert's suggestion this year,

1016
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 3: so we have one in the hip pocket for next year.

1017
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna say what it is. Okay, it's

1018
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 3: a pretty good one.

1019
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: Well, I have a list too. I'll send you. If

1020
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: you're really low, check it twice. I will, and I

1021
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 2: know that you're nice, so you will get that list.

1022
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Speaker 3: Happy Holidays, everybody. We love you.

1023
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Speaker 2: Yeah you guys, thank you so much for listening, and

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Speaker 2: we'll see you next year.

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