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Speaker 1: long conversation with Leonard Williams about his season, his injury,

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Speaker 1: We have Pete Bursch, who does the games on the

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Speaker 1: Christmas Eve with our very own Lance Medal and Paul

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Speaker 1: to Tino, and then Bob Papa has his weekly sit

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Speaker 1: down with the head coach of the New York Football Giants,

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Speaker 1: Brian Table. So let's get into this very quickly here.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to this week's podcast, make sure you

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Speaker 1: had three great episodes this week. All right. We had

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Speaker 1: then Kevin Burkhard who's calling the game for Fox this week,

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Speaker 1: It's been a busy week, a fun week, getting a

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Speaker 1: to this week's episode and We're gonna lead off with

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Speaker 1: Giants defensive lineman Leonard Williams. Leo, you got you got

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Speaker 1: I was laughing about you know, we're working over time

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Speaker 1: and uh, it feels incredible to know that, you know,

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Speaker 1: Is it excitement? Is it gratitude? Is it dive in?

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Speaker 1: Leonard Williams for joining us. Now let's turn our attention

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Speaker 1: to our opponent preview. The Giants played the Vikings is

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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, but they have changed with some injuries.

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Speaker 1: We talked about that the previous game and the matchup

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Speaker 1: with Pete Versach, who calls the Vikings game on the

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Speaker 1: radio as their analyst. For the second time in four weeks,

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Speaker 1: the Giants traveled to Minneapolis to face the Vikings after

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Speaker 1: Minnesota won the regular season matchup in week sixteen four.

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Speaker 1: This time, a trip to the divisional round in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs is on the line, and to get more into

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Speaker 1: the rematch, we're now joined by the color commentator for

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Speaker 1: the Vikings radio network, also played linebacker from Minnesota for

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Speaker 1: seven seasons and served as an assistant coach for the

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Speaker 1: team for several years as well, none other than Pete Persage,

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Speaker 1: Pete Degott, Lance Meadow, and Paula Tino. Here on Giants

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Speaker 1: dot Com greatly appreciate the time, Hope ball as well

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00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,280
Speaker 1: as everything on your end. It's good just about on

446
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 1: the ground up Earth feels like Christmas even though Christmas

447
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 1: is over, you know, or wather. Why they're in the

448
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 1: wather up here? Man? Why over land up there that? Well,

449
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,960
Speaker 1: you're certainly used to that weather in your neck of

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Speaker 1: the woods, and it's a good thing that this game

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00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 1: is indoors as a result. So petern't want to start

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Speaker 1: with some of the changes since week sixteen. And one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest storylines to me is the Vikings offensive line.

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Speaker 1: You know, they've been banged up as center, they lost

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Speaker 1: right tackle Brian O'Neill. How much have those dynamics altered

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00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,359
Speaker 1: the Vikings game plan? In your estimation, it looks as

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Speaker 1: if Garrett Bradberry did get in a full practice on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: And how encouraging that may mean for them to get

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Speaker 1: their starting center back. Yeah, I think that that's that's

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Speaker 1: very encouraging, Uh, you know, for for him to be back,

461
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,360
Speaker 1: you know, I know he's got it handsful now right

462
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 1: back to Lawrence. I mean he no matter, it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: welcome back, Glad you're healthy. Now you get to go out,

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Speaker 1: you know, relive, relive that experience. But I think the

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Speaker 1: vice kis have kept him out just to make sure

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Speaker 1: that he would be healthy for this time of year. Um,

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00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 1: the bigger, the big losses, Bryan O'Neil, Um, you know

468
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Speaker 1: we lost two weeks ago and we had old Judo

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Speaker 1: in and at right tackle. Will old Uto start on Sunday?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Um, we don't know who, you know,

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Speaker 1: who they're gonna put out there, but um, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: so basically when we see each other again, Well, I

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Speaker 1: have a brand new right tackle and that should really

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Speaker 1: be the only difference. But then you have a right

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Speaker 1: younger get experience right backle next to a rookie guard

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Speaker 1: at ingram. So yeah, I mean you just you just

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Speaker 1: topped on my my biggest concerns for Sunday afternoon. Well, Pete,

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Speaker 1: let me take a bigger picture look at this thing.

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Speaker 1: We saw how the game played out a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, and Minnesota obviously gets the sixty one yard

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00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 1: field goal on the last play to win it. How

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Speaker 1: do you expect this game to play out? Will it

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Speaker 1: be very similar or will there be some rheumatic twists

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Speaker 1: and turns that maybe we don't expect? Well, you know,

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00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: turners are always such a such a big thing, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean you know that we needed a block, punt,

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Speaker 1: a fumble, and an interception to win that football game,

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Speaker 1: you know, and those guys cannot forget that this was

489
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Speaker 1: not yeah, you won the game, but you can't lump

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Speaker 1: but in the pile with uh, you know, with with

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Speaker 1: a bunch of other one and the fact that you

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00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: needed some things to go your way. And I think

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00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: that's that's the key defensively. You know, we've given up

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Speaker 1: Yahard's all year long. And when we well, when the

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Speaker 1: defense does well, and when we win, our defense is

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Speaker 1: getting after the quarterback. Um Darius Smith, I, you know,

497
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: didn't play last week. I think he's helping. Daniel Hunter

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00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,959
Speaker 1: has come on as a late Um. You know, Daniel

499
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: had a great game against the O'Neill, your right tackle

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Speaker 1: in the last game, and so we want, you know,

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00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: you hope that will continue. But getting pressure, you know,

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00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: getting pressure on Jones is what the Vikings defense needs

503
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 1: to do because if you just let that he's still young,

504
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: he's still development. But if you let him just sit

505
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: in the pocket and survey the field, they'll beat you

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00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: between the hash marks because he's really good over the

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00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: middle of the field, and or he might just pull

508
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: that thing down and hurt you that way. So, um,

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00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: getting pressure on him, I think is is really is

510
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: the key um for the vikings, especially stopping or slowing

511
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: down that offensive. Yours to piggyback off of Paul's question

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00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: in terms of how much different this game, Maybe you

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Speaker 1: have a unique perspective because, as a reference off the top,

514
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: you played in your coach to the NFL, and you

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Speaker 1: know what division rivals are like. When you go up

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Speaker 1: against them the second time, they know you well you

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Speaker 1: know them. This is sort of like a divisional rematch

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Speaker 1: in essence, because it's been so close, period of time

519
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: wise between these matchups. So how do you walk that

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Speaker 1: fine line as a coach in terms of how much

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00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 1: you change and how much you essentially keep the same? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know, and in that respect, these teams are

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Speaker 1: pretty similar too, because there are not a lot of

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Speaker 1: players on both sides that have never played in a

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Speaker 1: playoff game. And when you play in a playoff game,

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Speaker 1: everything gets amped up, not just the energy, not just

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00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: the excitement, not just the number of people watching, but

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00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: the amount of film you watch, the game plan, everything

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Speaker 1: becomes much more precise, right, And you know that's that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a big deal. I think for both teams.

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Speaker 1: You know to weather and you're right, these seems to

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00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: know each other very well. I mean, for for us

533
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: in radio booth, this is almost like a week off.

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00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: It's like, great, I can just pull out my flip

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00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: card from two weeks ago, you know, and just look

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00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: at that and go off of that. So, um, what

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00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: that means this game is gonna be closed. This game

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00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: is gonna be close. It's gonna come down to a

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Speaker 1: field goal. It's gonna come down to something right at

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Speaker 1: the end of the game. I I have no doubt

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Speaker 1: about it unless one team, you know, it just doesn't

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00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 1: just or decides just not to show up. But um, yeah,

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00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 1: this is this is setting up to be a very

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Speaker 1: very close football game between these two teams. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be very very exciting. And I can't wait for Sunday

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Speaker 1: afternoon to roll around the half. You know, this is

547
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Speaker 1: only our second home game in the new stadium. The

548
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: last one was the Maynapolis Miracle were Stefon Diggs, uh,

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00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: you know, caught that caught the touchdown right at the

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Speaker 1: end of the game to beat the Samet. So this

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00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: is only the second playoff game. Um. You know, some

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Speaker 1: of some of your linemen kind of commented on crowd noise.

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Speaker 1: I think though, I think the crowds that they are

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Speaker 1: gonna be ready, and probably the crowd will be much

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00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: more of a factor in this game than it was

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Speaker 1: the last time we played. We've spoken about some of

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00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: the potential lineup changes FO Minnesota coming up on Sunday. Now,

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00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: what impact do you think the lineup changes could have

559
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: based on the giant side of things. Leonard Williams and

560
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: the Zezel Jularry, two of the guys on their defensive front,

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Speaker 1: which has been pretty ferocious over the second half of

562
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 1: the season. They missed the whole second half of that game.

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00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: Both of them went out with injuries early. And I'll

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Speaker 1: be aslee. We also know that Davie McKinney, there's studying safety,

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00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: is going to be playing this week. He missed that game,

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00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: and the Dory Jackson, the best corner, missed that game,

567
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: and we believe he's going to be playing Sunday, even

568
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: if he's on a snap count. Yeah, your defensive front

569
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: is outstanding, no question about it. Um, you know, and

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00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: and you know, I think it's gonna be imperative often

571
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: stay in the field and make sure that guys need

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Speaker 1: a break and get some of those second line guys

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Speaker 1: out there. Dorry Jackson, I think is the key. And

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00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: the key to Dorry Jackson is gonna be how much

575
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: is wink Martin. They are gonna feel good about leaving

576
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: him one on one with somebody, whether it's Justin Jefferson

577
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: or kJ Osborne or Adam Feeling and uh, you know whomever.

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Speaker 1: And if that's going to change a little bit what

579
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Speaker 1: he wants to do, if it's gonna allow him to

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Speaker 1: be a little bit more aggressive, is that is it

581
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: gonna allow him to do the things that he wants

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Speaker 1: to do. You know, we the Vikings were very aggressive

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00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: on third and one. They took a shot, We had

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00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: a mental air by Adam Feeling. Um, we had another,

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00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: we had another I don't know that was the fourth

586
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: and one, the third one. You know we had one

587
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: on one with Justin Jefferson and the ball got tipped

588
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: and it just to get to them. So um, yeah,

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00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: it's it's going. Like I said, all this stuff adds

590
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: up to I think a closer football game. And I know,

591
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 1: you know your team defensively especially is gonna have It's

592
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 1: gonna bring some more people to the table defensively, uh

593
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: than you had last time. And so I thought we

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00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: had a big advantage in the secondary where versus our receivers.

595
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: In the last game, that advantage has absolutely come down.

596
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: And you know the defensive line has gotten better as well.

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00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's this is this is gonna be this

598
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: is gonna be a fun football game, gonna be a

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Speaker 1: close one. We're talking with Peepers Vikings radio color commentator

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Speaker 1: that you could hear on the Vikings Radio network as

601
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: we gear up for the second matchup in the span

602
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Speaker 1: of four weeks, this time in the wild card round

603
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: heat Earlier. You were referencing the fact that the Vikings

604
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: are gonna need to get pressure on Daniel Jones, and interestingly,

605
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: he was only credited with four runs in that game.

606
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: We've seen other games where Daniel could be a huge

607
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: factor on the ground. So the Giants are really attacking

608
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. I'm curious what your takeaway was,

609
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: why the Giants perhaps had success in that area and

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00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: what ed Donna Tell specifically can do to maybe try

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00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: to counter that this time around. Um, A lot of

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00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: that is is the strength of Daniel Jones. I mean,

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00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: if you watch Daniel Jones on film, he's not making

614
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: those Aaron Rodgers. You know fade routes down the field.

615
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean he does. Does he throw him? Yes, but

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00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: he's not called. What it is like Rogers is when

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00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: you watch him throw between the hash marks man, he

618
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: can make them. He can thread that needle. Right. He

619
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: feels great about standing in the pocket and with the

620
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: big bodied receivers that you guys have to attack the

621
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Speaker 1: middle of the field. Now, what's gonna change or which

622
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: what needs to change for the Viking defense. The linebackers

623
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: have to own the middle of the field. They absolutely

624
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: have to. One of my linebackers, Hicks, got a big

625
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: hit in on an incomplete pass. They've got to start

626
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: that way. The other thing that we have to do

627
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: is make sure Channon Sullivan knows whether he's inside or

628
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: outside that slot receiver. And if he's inside, you gotta

629
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: build that wall. Right. You guys do all so many

630
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: different things. And I'll tell you this, you guys offensively

631
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: and defensively are extremely well coached. That team is extremely

632
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: well coached, and you guys, as fans, should be very

633
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: very thankful for the coaching stat that you have because

634
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: they are getting the absolute most out of the players

635
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: that you guys have and using them the way they

636
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: need to be. That's a big problem with coaches, right,

637
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: they have a system, and then they have certain players

638
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: that don't fit the system and they want to shove

639
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: a square peg in a round hole. Let me tell

640
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: you this, Table and his staff are very very good

641
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: at putting these guys in positions to succeed. And the

642
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Speaker 1: middle of the field is where you know, Jones is

643
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: very very good, Your receivers are very very good. That's

644
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 1: the area with which we've gotta worry. And then as

645
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: far as the run goes, that's the run, setting up

646
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: the pass, the crack blocks, those kinds of things that

647
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: you guys also do so very well that you know

648
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: that defensively, they're gonna have to make sure they're watching

649
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: their keys and believe in what they're seeing. But that

650
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: middle of the field needs to be defended better, especially

651
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Speaker 1: by our line backers. One very interesting item for me,

652
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: Pete is that in the last game, both quarterbacks threw

653
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Speaker 1: the ball over forty times, and at times you'll hear

654
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: fan base say, well, wait a minute, what about running

655
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: the ball? And there's there's cooked with the Vikings, there's

656
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: barkly with the Giants. Neither guy got to carry the

657
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: ball more than fifteen times the first time around, and

658
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: Althotle blarkly caught more passes than Cooke did that day. Uh.

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Speaker 1: There there's been some criticisms that I've heard about the game, saying, well,

660
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Speaker 1: maybe Cooked and Blarckley should have had a bigger role

661
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: that afternoon. Will either one have a bigger role Sunday? Uh?

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Speaker 1: You know, I that's I gotta answer your question. I

663
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: gotta step back and say, welcome to right. It's like

664
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: buying the ball nowadays. That is setting up the pass.

665
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: It's it's it's amazing. Um, if you just look at

666
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: the stats, that's one place where the defense for the Giants,

667
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: you know it has struggled in the past. And I

668
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: here's the thing is I seriously doubt the Vikings are

669
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: gonna say. You know what, this isn't the Minnesota Viking

670
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: team under under under Mike Zimmer who was a defensive

671
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: minded coach. You said, if you get the lead, run

672
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: the football, burn the clock, you know, play the field position.

673
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: Game will went on defense. You know, our guys an

674
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: offensive guy. Man, they want to sling it around the yard.

675
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: They want to you know, you want to throw it

676
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: to justin Jefferson and use Kirk Cousins. But being efficient

677
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: in the run is very, very important because now it

678
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: gives credence to your play action, it gives credence to

679
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: your bootlegs, it gives credence to some of these other

680
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: types of passes that are a little bit easier to

681
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: protect the quarterback. And we're gonna need that. So um,

682
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: you know why, I think Jefferson is going to be

683
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: more involved maybe later in the game. I think that's

684
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Speaker 1: kind of the key. Early on he was involved, but

685
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: later on he just kind of disappeared. And we've seen

686
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: that kind of we've seen that throughout the season a

687
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: little bit. Um. And you know, Dalvin is at the

688
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: point of his career where he's gonna want to make

689
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: some waves in the playoffs. Man. I mean, Dalvin is

690
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: the heart and soul of this offense and attitude, uh

691
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: and everything else. And so I'm always I always want

692
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: to see Dalvin Cook at the football. Just make sure

693
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: he holds onto it because you guys make people fumble,

694
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Speaker 1: So Dalvin just protect the football. That's all. Well, Pete,

695
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: to your point, the Vikings are throwing the ball of

696
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: the time. That's the third highest mark in the NFL,

697
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: So it'd be surprising if they all of a sudden

698
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Speaker 1: got out of character in the playoff games, since that

699
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: seems to be the trended. Also, what the Rams did

700
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: where Kevin o'conno came from speaking of the passing attack though.

701
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: The one other player that is a new addition for

702
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: the Vikings that I think has fallen a bit under

703
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: the radar because you missed so much time with the

704
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: ankle injury is tight end IRV Smith, who's now back.

705
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: We saw what t J. Hockenson did Pete with over

706
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: a hundred receiving yards. What does IRV Smith provide for

707
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: this offense now that he's in the mixing. How much

708
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Speaker 1: of a role do you think he'll play in this

709
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: playoff game? That's a big question. I mean IRV Smith

710
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: is kind of uh you know, I played I played

711
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: a notre name with his father played against him when

712
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: when Erv Smith was you know, down with New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: Uh Er Smith Jr. Is kind of is kind of

714
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Speaker 1: a booknd t J. Hockenson. They both kind of do

715
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: the same thing. Um. You know, Irv Irv is has

716
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 1: been has been good is and has been a very

717
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: good Red zone target and so those situations a short yardage, uh,

718
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: deep red zone, goal line, when you can have multiple

719
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: tight ends out there, he's gonna give I think Cousins

720
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: another option as far as play action and those kinds

721
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: of things. But ER's gonna you know, you have to block, right, yeah,

722
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: you have. You can't just be out there and have it.

723
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: The defense look at Jim say, yeah, this is just guys,

724
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: just a decoy. You've got to be able to you

725
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: gotta be able to block, and you know, I think

726
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: Herb's roll will be limited. You did get in the

727
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: Bears game, made a couple of catches, which is great

728
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: to see. But you know, t J. Hockenson has had

729
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: a very very good year. Um, it seems like weekend

730
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: and week off teams can get you guys with the

731
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: tight end screens and that kind of thing. Um, you know,

732
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: because your your defense pursues so well. It worked for

733
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: us the first game. Will it work again? I don't know.

734
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: We'll see if you know, will they you know, have

735
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: you guys fixed it? Will they have a covered We'll see.

736
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Speaker 1: But t J. Hockenson has been an outstanding ad to

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Speaker 1: this team. Once U defense has decide that they want

738
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Speaker 1: to commit a man and a half to Justin Jefferson.

739
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: You've got T. J. Hockenson underneath who should be able

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00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: to win those matchups, and and and has. It's uh

741
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: just been a couple of games where he starts slow. Right,

742
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: if he catches the first pass to and you know

743
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: that it's gonna be a good day. Let's just let's

744
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: just put it that way. They they say special teams

745
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: is a third of the game. Well, in Meeting number one,

746
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: between the block punt that's set up a short field

747
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: that led to a Vikings touchdown and the sixty one

748
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: year at field goal that won the game, it might

749
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: have been more than a third of the game the

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00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: first time around. Pete. So I ask you, uh, what

751
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: do you think special teams will have in terms of

752
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: an impact on this one? I know that uh T Mac,

753
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: the Giants special teams coordinator, told us today that the

754
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: Vikings provide more heat and come after block punts more

755
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: than any other team in the league. Oh and we've

756
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: got some guys that are you know, that are pretty

757
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: pretty good at doing it. Patrick Jones is one of

758
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: our outside linebackers and he's involved. And you know, here's

759
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: the guy that rushes offensive lineman for a living, so

760
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: when he gets out on a punt for punt return,

761
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: he's happy. Josh mctellas uh has blocked two punts this year,

762
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: so they've you know, they've they've developed that skill and

763
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 1: they're you know, and there and they're good at providing

764
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: that kind of pressure. Um, you know, special teams, I

765
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: don't expect any of those big kind of blocks and

766
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: those kinds of plays to come, you know, to be

767
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: part of this one. Both units are are really really good.

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00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: I think this game will come down to a kick.

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00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: It will come down to something last minute, So special

770
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: teams will be huge in that respect. But it's field position.

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00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: Field position I think is gonna be key because you're

772
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: gonna want to make not only on offense, but we're

773
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: gonna want to make your offense goal the length of

774
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: the field. So field position is gonna be key. If

775
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: you know, if you're you're giving the ball to the

776
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: other team around the fifty yard line, giving them the

777
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: short field, that's gonna be probablematic for both you know,

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00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: for both teams. So I think specialty teams in that

779
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: respect will be, you know, be most important. You guys

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00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: have a good return guy. Um, you know our our

781
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: canai Wan Wu has already returned one touchdown. He has

782
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: to kick confrosurance or touchdowns last year, so indoors should

783
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: be able to kick it out of the back of

784
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: the ends on. But if you give Cana the opportunity

785
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: to return a couple, uh, you know, he could he

786
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 1: could do some He can do some big things. Pete

787
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: is a follow up to special Teams. Clearly everybody's talking

788
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: about Greg Joseph's career long kick in the last game,

789
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: is he drilled the sixty one yard or interestingly since

790
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: that game he missed two field goals at Green Bay

791
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: and extra point at Chicago. But both of those games

792
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: are outdoors, and there's a distinct difference, it seems, in

793
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: his level of execution in indoor games. He's nine for

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00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: nine on field goals in the last six indoor games

795
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: versus when he's outdoors. How much of a different kicker,

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00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: I guess is what I'm getting at. Is he when

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00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: he's into your home base as opposed to some of

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00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: the ups and downs on the road. Well, I think

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00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: he's been Yeah, he's absolutely been more consistent, and that

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00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: just you know, that just makes sense than any kicker

801
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: would be more consistent indoors. The great thing, um that

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00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: I've seen Greg Joseph this year and this this team franchise,

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00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, from back in. I mean we've been sneaked

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00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: bit uh by kickers. I mean we missed on a

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00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: thirteen fteen yards He'll go, you know, a TCF the

806
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: at the bank at the other bank, and and and

807
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: uh when we're playing with the golfers while stadium was

808
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: getting built, we would have beat Seattle and you know

809
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and end up losing to him. So

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00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: it's kickers have always been a thorn in the side

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Speaker 1: for this franchise. But just let me explain that first.

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Speaker 1: But well, I think about Joseph is the fact that

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00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: he's had some rough patches this season and he bounced

814
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 1: back from them. And I think when you look at kickers,

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00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: you know and in the in the hole that they

816
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: that's how they build resilience, right, that's I think that

817
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: the ability to to make some mistakes but then come

818
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: back and fix them and then be able to do

819
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: that over and over again. You know, it's gonna help

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00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: him out mentally. But I have a lot more confidence

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Speaker 1: in his ability as I'm sure everybody does. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: he does indoors out there, especially after drilling that sixty

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00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: one yarder to win the game against the Giants in

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Speaker 1: Week sixteen. He is Pete Versich color commentator for the

825
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: Vikings Radio Network. He says, we're gonna get another close

826
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Speaker 1: game while both of these teams are combined for nineteen

827
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: one score contests in which they've been on the right side.

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00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: So Pete, based on that those numbers support your cause,

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Speaker 1: but greatly appreciate the time of the insight, look forward

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00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: to Sunday, and look forward to talking down the road.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for you. Thank you guys. Hey, Giant fans,

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Speaker 1: is available. We thank Pete Bursts for joining us. Thanks

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00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: to LANs and Paul for doing that always thorough preview

839
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: of the Giants upcoming opponent. Now let's turn our attention

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00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: to the head coach to the New York Football Giants.

841
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: Brian Dable, who sits down with a Voice of the Giants.

842
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: Giants take on the Minnesota Vikings. Wildcard weekend is here

843
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Speaker 1: and as always we're joined by the head coach of

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00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: the New York Giants. Brian Dable and coach Um, just

845
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: talk about the way your team has handled the workload

846
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: this week. Obviously, you know there's only a select amount

847
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: of teams that are in the postseason in the tournament.

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00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: Have they kind of kept it I know you have.

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00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: Have they kept it as normal as possible? Yeah, we've

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00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: We've stayed consistent with with what we do, our process,

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00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: how we practice, our meetings are preparations so obviously an

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00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: important game. UM, we know what's on the line, and

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00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: those guys have done everything that they can do to

854
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: be ready to go. Coach, your team has played with

855
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of confidence, Um, throughout the course of the season.

856
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: As the plan that you've laid forth for them, UM

857
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: pretty simple. You know, take care of you assignments, do

858
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: your do your job and and and know what you're

859
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: doing out there. And it feels like, I don't know,

860
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: it's it feels like they have a quiet confidence, not

861
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 1: an arrogant confidence. Do you sense that with them? Yeah,

862
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: this is a group. I mean we we know what um,

863
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: we have to do each week. Uh. Now doesn't mean

864
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: we we always do it or the results aren't you

865
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: know what we always want, but um, they work extremely hard,

866
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: their humble. Um, they're a good group. They're they're a

867
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: good team in terms of togetherness and and being able

868
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: to fight through things. And uh, you know what's the

869
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: most important is how we play on on Sunday coach, Um,

870
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: you play them on Christmas Eve? Obviously you know the

871
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: game came down to a long field goal, but there

872
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: were a lot of opportunities in that game that you

873
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: guys didn't capitalize. How important was it for you guys

874
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: to feel sort of their punch, meaning getting the chance

875
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: to actually play against Jefferson and Cook and feeling and

876
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: Osborne and Hawkinson as opposed to watching them on tape

877
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: but you know, not really getting a field for them

878
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: on the field. You guys now have that. Yeah, it's

879
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: you know, it's almost like a division game. Um, you

880
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: know we've played them one time. You know we kind

881
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: of understand some of the matchups and and they you

882
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: understand some of the matchups on their end. So anytime

883
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: you play a team a second time, you know, obviously

884
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: you've evaluated them, you've watched them, you've gained plan for him,

885
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: and most importantly, the players got to feel for for

886
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: one another. And I'd say on both sides. So, um,

887
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: you know it's just gonna come down to what team

888
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: plays the best. Does it help to coach, just even

889
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: for your team and your staff and everybody to get it?

890
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 1: Now you have a sense of what the noise levels

891
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: like they had that white out on Christmas Eve, being

892
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: in that building which contend tend to be allowed building

893
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: that you even got to feel for what that tastes like. Yeah, no,

894
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: it was. It was loud. We expected to be loud.

895
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: You know, we've we've practiced in the noise as much

896
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: as we can. But um, you know, the biggest thing

897
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: is going to be how we communicate, um during those

898
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: times when it is loud, and then ultimately how we

899
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: execute them because you played them already, Um, is this

900
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: a week where you had to work as a staff

901
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: even longer and harder to try to identify what wrinkles

902
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: that they may try to incorporate into their game plans.

903
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: On both sides of the wall, Yeah, I'd say it's

904
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: really been it's been normal. Um, you work, you work

905
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: a lot as a coaching staff to try to do

906
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: what you can to help the players out. And um,

907
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, we just played him a few weeks ago,

908
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: so we've watched a lot of tape and then you

909
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: watched a few games they played after us, and um,

910
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: you know there's always a lot of discussion on you know,

911
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: what do we need to do, what we think we

912
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: need to do to give us the best chance. You've

913
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 1: made a comment and I thought it was a pretty

914
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: cool one, and it's been repeated a lot that what

915
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: you had, what it took to win in Week one

916
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: is what it takes to win in the postseason, meaning

917
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, going out and just playing the game and

918
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: not letting the atmosphere overtake you. Um, when you when

919
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: you're talking to your team, you know those first couple

920
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: of minutes of the game, the adrenaline rush and all

921
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: that other stuff. Is that an area where you know

922
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: you want to just make sure that you get the

923
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: game settled as quickly as possible so it becomes just

924
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: a game. Sure, No, we've talked about that. Look, there's

925
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's gonna be a lot of juice

926
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: in that building. You know, we've played in games this year,

927
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, in London on Monday night, on Thanksgiving, on

928
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: Sunday night, where you know it's really the only game

929
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: going on, and you know there's a little bit more

930
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: cameras down there, more people early part of the game,

931
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: and um, you know that's certainly the way it is

932
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and you know a lot of people

933
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: on the sidelines, a lot of juice. And you know,

934
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: once the coin toss goes and you get ready and

935
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: you're you're sitting there and you know, everything kind of

936
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: settles down, you start playing the game and and really

937
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: it's it's the game, Um, But the other things that

938
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: lead up to it, those are the things that that

939
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: are a little bit different. Coach, Um, in the last meeting,

940
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 1: you didn't have Xavier McKenny. He's been able to work

941
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: him self back in. You've gotten a lot of your

942
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 1: injured guys back, your team at full strength. Talk about

943
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: just how he's progressed in coming back from his injury

944
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: as far as being able to fit in and kind

945
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: of resume his role. Yeah, No, it's good to have

946
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: him back and you know, it's anytime you have players

947
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: out that that are starters for you that come back,

948
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: I think that's always helpful. Um, you know, he's been

949
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: into it when he was out, and you know he's

950
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: done a good job since he's been back, and we're

951
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: gonna need him to play well this this game, coach. Obviously,

952
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: the run game is the most important thing on both

953
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: sides of the ball, stopping it and making sure you

954
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: get a consistent run game going. Um, when you look

955
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: at their front although their defensive numbers aren't great, they

956
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: got a lot of talented players that you're gonna have

957
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: to deal with. Just talk about them schematically and some

958
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: of the strengths that you see in their defense. Yeah,

959
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: I do. I think they have a really good front

960
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: four and Hunter and Phillips and Tomlinson and Smith and

961
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: they rotate some other guys in there. And they have

962
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: a veteran group on the back end. I'd say, you know,

963
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: Harrison Smith and pp. You know, he's he's been really

964
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: really good for for a long time in this league.

965
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: And he's a crafty veteran, as is Smith. Um, and

966
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: so it'll be a challenging day. They're they're a good defense. Um,

967
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: they play well together, and we're gonna have to do

968
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: a good job on the offensive side and then on

969
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: the other side of the ball and wrapping up coach, Um,

970
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: does your entire defense have to have almost a cornerbacks

971
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 1: mentality in the sense that, look, some of these guys

972
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: on that side of the ball are really talented, and

973
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna make some plays, but we can't let a

974
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: play that they make affect us on the next play. Yeah,

975
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: I think that's exactly it. Um, They're gonna make plays

976
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: good players usually do, particularly in games like this, and

977
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna have to do a good job

978
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: of defending them, and you know, making tackles if they

979
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: can go ahead and get a big run or a

980
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: big pass, and and making them line up and play again,

981
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: and then just playing the next play and playing good

982
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: team defense. Coach, has been a lot of fun this week,

983
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: And uh, I like to always say this after each one,

984
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: and I mean this for this week as well. Let's

985
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,800
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995
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996
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997
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998
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