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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Ditty and Kanye to share

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Speaker 1: a sad little Chicken patty for Valentine's dinner. This as

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Speaker 1: dozens of Ditty's alleged rape victims up in arms after

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Speaker 1: rapper Kanye West demands President Trump.

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Speaker 1: Bumbles through a Super Bowl ad directing viewers to his website,

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Speaker 1: and when you get there, it offers one item for sale,

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Speaker 1: a swastika T shirt. Hey with friends like this, Kanye,

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Speaker 1: who needs enemies?

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Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for

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Speaker 3: Free Puff. Controversial rapper Kanye West calls for Ditty's freedom

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Speaker 3: in a rambling ti rate of tweets defending the disgraced

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Speaker 2: Oh yes he did.

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Speaker 1: As if things could not get worse for Sean Combs

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Speaker 1: and according to prosecutors, he deserves all the misery.

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Speaker 2: Being heaped upon him. Coming to his aid.

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Speaker 1: Flying to his rescue is his friend Kanye West, who

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Speaker 1: manages to totally screw things up for him.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 4: Kanye West shows his support for fellow rappers Sean Diddy

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Speaker 4: Combs with a simple post free Puff on both his

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Speaker 4: flurry of tweets demanding Cone's release, even begging the President

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Speaker 4: to please free my brother Puff.

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Speaker 2: Now that's one thing, but then he goes on to bumble.

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Speaker 1: Through an eight million dollar Super Bowl ad, and it would.

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Speaker 2: Be wrong of me not to share that with you.

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Speaker 5: Watch I spent like all the money for a commercial.

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Speaker 6: On these new chiefs. Once again, I had to shoot

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Speaker 6: it on the iPhone. Go to easy dot com.

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Speaker 1: That's from yez l LC okay number one, Why did

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Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian ever marry him? But that said, when you

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Speaker 1: go to easy dot com, the only thing there is

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Speaker 1: a swastika T shirt. The only thing at easy dot

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to defending Sean Comb's a k A

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Speaker 1: Diddy a k A Puff straight out to doctor Bethany

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Speaker 1: Marshall joining us renown Psycho Alis out of the Beverly

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Speaker 1: Hills area. She is seen now on Peacock and author

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Speaker 1: of deal Breaker. Doctor Bethany with friends.

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Speaker 2: Like this, who needs enemies? This is like digging the

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Speaker 2: grave for Seawan Combs.

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Speaker 1: To have Kanye come out and make a complete horses

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Speaker 7: Nancy, this is the kind of friend you do not want. Okay,

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Speaker 7: So this picture of him in the dentist's chair getting

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Speaker 7: he's handsome while he has saliva dripping down his teeth.

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Speaker 7: That's just he doesn't understand how he comes to bast all.

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Speaker 1: Why hold that mental image when we can just punch

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Speaker 5: Let's watch I spent like all the money for a commercial.

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Speaker 6: On these new teeth once again. I had to shoot

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Speaker 6: it on the iPhone. Go to easy dot Com.

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Speaker 7: Okay, Nancy, the iPhones are amazing, LC.

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Speaker 2: Let me give it all the credit it is to

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Speaker 7: Okay, When he says I had to shoot it on

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Speaker 7: the iPhone, my first thought was, yeah, because your marketing

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Speaker 7: team doesn't want you to do it. They should have

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: Let's get real.

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Speaker 1: eradicating sex trafficking.

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Speaker 2: And as much as I like watching.

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Speaker 1: on to defend Seawan Comb's I have handled so many

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Speaker 1: rape cases and so many sex trafficking cases.

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Speaker 1: Of a fourteen year old girl that was sex trafficked

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Speaker 1: and catch this Lynn. The night before her testimony, she disappeared.

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Speaker 1: hard to convey what rape victims go through. And I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about Sean Combs. It's not having his traditional champagne

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Speaker 2: He's having a chicken patty.

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Speaker 1: We've already checked that out with MDC Metropolitan Detention Center.

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Speaker 1: What is Kanye going to go visit his friend and

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Speaker 2: That said Linshaw.

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Speaker 1: The reality of these alleged rape victims up in arms,

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Speaker 8: We have to keep the focus on victims. Survivors, alleged

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Speaker 8: And that's the bottom line here, that's what we're looking for.

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Speaker 8: And again, how is somebody going to recall something from

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what it looked like to me. But

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Speaker 8: And dirty Diddy with a chicken patty. I only wish

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Speaker 8: some of my girls and women. There's been a few

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Speaker 8: boys and men too, who have gotten away, gotten out

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Speaker 8: of this sex trafficking, had a chicken patty to eat.

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Speaker 2: I don't care about their food.

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Speaker 8: I want us to put focus on strengthening, empowering, engaging

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Speaker 8: That is what we need to focus on here.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm just thinking Harmonia Rodriguez joining US. She

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Speaker 1: is chief US reporter at dailymail dot com. Harmonia, it's

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Speaker 1: all fun and games to look at Kanye's Yee's super

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Speaker 1: go to yezy dot com, this is what you find.

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Speaker 9: Within an hour of West's Super Bowl ad airing on TV,

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Speaker 9: the only item available in his shop is a twenty

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Speaker 9: dollars short sleeve white T shirt with a swastika on it.

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Speaker 1: I mean there comes is sitting at MDC Metropolitan Detention

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Speaker 2: They are ruined by a rape.

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Speaker 1: That feeling of helplessness, remembering it over and over again.

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Speaker 1: And Harmonia, we just heard Linshaw saying, can they remember

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Speaker 1: exactly the moment I found out my fiance had been murdered.

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Speaker 1: I saw his bloody shirt on the state's council table

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Speaker 2: I remember it like it was yesterday.

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Speaker 1: That kind of trauma doesn't go away ever, and it

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Speaker 2: And here is.

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Speaker 1: This poc technical legal term, Kanye West going on air

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Speaker 1: on crazy rants, not only defending Combes but attacking Cassie Ventura.

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Speaker 2: Wait till I get to that. Tell me what's happening, Harmonia.

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Speaker 10: As you said, it's absolutely despicable. Kanye West has been

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Speaker 2: Because he's still a billionaire.

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Speaker 10: And he is, and I think that's what he was

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Speaker 10: worth noting that Shopify has now removed the swastika shirt.

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Speaker 10: But as you said, Nancy, he's not even just saying, oh,

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Speaker 10: you know, I believe in my friend Pub's innocence.

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Speaker 2: He's not even saying that.

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Speaker 10: He's kind of saying, who among us hasn't assaulted a woman?

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Speaker 10: He admitted on his ex account he said I have

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Speaker 10: this to his anti Semitism and his praise of Hitler.

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Speaker 10: He's saying this is all part of a conspiracy by

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Speaker 10: the Jews go after prominent men like himself and Diddy.

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Speaker 10: So this is I mean, some people might say Kanye

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Speaker 10: West is going through another bipolar episode, but it doesn't

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Speaker 10: even seem that way to me. It seems calculated. He

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Speaker 10: shared images of Ditty assaulting Cassie and mocked it. He

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Speaker 10: So it's truly despicable and I think it will continue.

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Speaker 2: Crime stores with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 11: Among the Shawn John and Free Puff merchandise available for purchase.

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Speaker 11: Kanye West also offers a newly renamed version of his

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Speaker 11: twenty fifteen So Help Me God hoodie. In a tweet,

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Speaker 11: West points out it's the same hoodie that Cassie Ventura

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Speaker 11: her at the Intercontinental Hotel in twenty sixteen, West posts

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Speaker 11: side by side photos of the hoodie and a still

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Speaker 11: from the video, with the caption the love hoodie available now.

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Speaker 2: You know the love hoodie available now?

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Speaker 1: And we know one of shawn comes many many aliases

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Speaker 1: is law of aka brother Love aka Sean Combs aka

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Speaker 1: goes on and on and on and on the love hoodie.

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Speaker 1: Let me see that one more time, the love hoodie.

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Speaker 1: He's selling that to mocking the attack on Cassie Ventura.

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Speaker 9: West continues to tweet steals of the photo with different captions, first, writing,

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Speaker 9: when a man loves a woman, he may express it

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Speaker 9: in rage. I empathize with both sides. West follows up,

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Speaker 9: you have to truly be in love to get to

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Speaker 9: the point of risking everything. Finally, West seems to mock

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Speaker 9: the attack. Hey question, if someone wants to beat up

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Speaker 9: or Is that outdoor violence or is it just public indecency.

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Speaker 3: Rapper and Kim k X drops controversial Diddy collab pleading

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, that's right now dragged into Shawn Combs aka

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Speaker 1: Ditties criminal vortex. You've got President Trump, you've got Macy's Department.

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Speaker 2: Store, and you've got a renowned.

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Speaker 1: Pastor TD TD Jakes, all somehow mixed up with Shawn

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Speaker 1: COM's multi count federal sex trafficking indictment. I'll get to that,

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Speaker 1: but let's get to what's really important here. The sad

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Speaker 1: little Chicken Patty listen.

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Speaker 9: Shawn Combs will spend his Valentine's Day with only the

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Speaker 9: guards and other inmates at the MDC. Instead of breakfast

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Speaker 9: six am, and five hours later return for a chicken

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Speaker 9: patty sandwich or chickpea burger Instead of champagne and cavy are.

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Speaker 9: The Mogul will dine on chili with whole wheat bread.

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Speaker 9: Will calms repeat his Christmas meltdown when he learns that

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Speaker 1: Chris mcdunna joining me, veteran homicide detective, founder of the

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Speaker 2: Chris, thank you for being with us. Do you care

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Speaker 2: if he.

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Speaker 1: Has a sad little chicken patty for Valentine's Day? Because

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Speaker 1: I don't that's going to be his dinner. This is

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Speaker 1: the guy that would demand people bring him cheesecake at

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Speaker 2: Why does anybody care?

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Speaker 1: And I just wonder, is Kanye going to go for

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: And come four pm when every inmate in that facility

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Speaker 12: has Chilian beans, It's going to be quite an explosion

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Speaker 12: later on. This guy is nothing but a dirt bag.

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Speaker 12: I mean, let's let's just put it where it is.

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Speaker 12: I mean, he is so offensive on so many levels,

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Speaker 6: This is just discussing on so many levels.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm just wondering too.

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Speaker 1: Joshua Ritter joining US, veteran criminal defense attorney out of

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Speaker 1: the LA jurisdiction, former prosecutor and host of Courtroom Confidential

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. Not bad, by the way, Josh Ritter, not

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Speaker 1: bad at all. Of course, everything you said is a BS,

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Speaker 1: but it is entertaining. So, Josh Ritter, you're the veteran

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Speaker 1: defense attorney who, to his credit, seems to win all

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Speaker 1: of his cases. Josh Ritter, how are you going to

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Speaker 1: strike a jury for Sean Combs when you've got Kanye

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Speaker 1: hanging around his neck like an albatross and all of

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Speaker 1: his BS.

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Speaker 2: On the air.

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Speaker 1: So here he is demanding very publicly that President Trump

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Speaker 1: three puff okay, going to bat for Seawn Combs and

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Speaker 1: he posts that to Donald Trump, and you know how

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Speaker 1: Trump is. You know, he gets this late night Twitter

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Speaker 2: Happen with that.

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Speaker 1: He's dragging in Macy's department store, which I will get

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Speaker 1: to later. He's dragging in a renowned man of god, T. D.

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Speaker 2: Jakes and his Maelstrom.

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Speaker 1: But how are you going to strike a jury, Josh River,

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Speaker 1: when you've got Kanye going.

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Speaker 2: To bat for Combs. So you're gonna have to Voo

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Speaker 2: Dyer to speak the truth in French.

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Speaker 1: The jurors as to what do they know about the

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Speaker 13: It's gonna be incredibly difficult. That's It's gonna be an

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Speaker 13: absolute uphill battle. And part of the problem is Kanye

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Speaker 13: I don't know what kind of episode he's having.

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Speaker 6: But all of this.

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Speaker 13: Anti semitic, anti victim, pro domestic violence, all of that

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Speaker 13: big problem. Sean Combs is going to go on trial,

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Speaker 13: and you're right, he's going to have to stand in

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Speaker 13: And if all of this noise and all of this

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Speaker 6: Real time finding a fair jury.

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Speaker 13: And I think that's why you're seeing his team start

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Speaker 13: some of these lawsuits about defamation because they realize the

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Speaker 13: only thing they can do at this point is try

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Speaker 13: jurors as they possibly can. But with all of this happening,

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Speaker 13: I don't know how they're going to be able.

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Speaker 2: To do it.

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Speaker 13: It's going to be incredibly difficult.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, maybe they need to curb their

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Speaker 1: own client, because not only is Kanye West selling anti

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Speaker 1: massage may just reeks it stinks, but their client, Sean

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Speaker 1: Combs Diddy is in business with Kanye from behind bars.

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Speaker 1: So I don't want to hear you whining, Joshua Ritter

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Speaker 1: about how everybody else is tainting the jury pool.

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Speaker 2: What about their own client? Listen.

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Speaker 14: West then shares a photo from his online shop at

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Speaker 14: West writes, I'm selling the Shawn John collaboration that me

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Speaker 14: We splitting the profits fifty to fifty. West quickly follows

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Speaker 14: At first, fans believe West is referring to Justin Bieber,

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Speaker 1: Combs Okay, Hermiie Rodriguez Seawan Khme's whining behind bars filing.

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Speaker 1: He just filed one hundred million dollar lawsuit against NBC

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Speaker 1: for defamation. Now, of course we'll go back to Ritter

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Speaker 1: on this, But defamation means somebody has hurt your reputation. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's a multi count sex trafficking indictment against him. What

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Speaker 1: else could possibly be done to his reputation? That said

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Speaker 1: one hundred million dollar lawsuit against NBC?

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Speaker 2: Okay, but what about this harmonia.

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Speaker 1: He's actually in business with Kanye selling apparel. They're going

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Speaker 1: to split it fifty to fifty. So if he's in

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Speaker 1: business with this guy, this hater, that's on him.

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Speaker 2: That's his decision.

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Speaker 10: That's right, And we hear a Daily Mail have been

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Speaker 2: Business arrangement was.

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Speaker 10: However, on Twitter, Yazy Yay said that they had just discussed.

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Speaker 10: Now we know that these two rappers had beef before

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Speaker 10: So it's really unclear whether Diddy knew about these designs.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, just a moment.

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Speaker 1: Let's see that graphic control and the graphic of the

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Speaker 1: Sean John there you go. That's being sold on Kanye's website.

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Speaker 2: And those are puffy didty t shirts.

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Speaker 1: So let me understand, Josh Ritter, this is Diddy's Love

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Speaker 1: Go right, and it's being sold on Kanye's website. So

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't like that, or if he's not getting

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Speaker 1: tried an injunction to stop Kanye from selling his merchandise, No,

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Speaker 1: short answer. That means they're in business together, doesn't it.

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Speaker 13: You think anybody can stop Kanye right now? You think

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Speaker 13: there's anyone in the world who can stop whatever he's

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Speaker 13: And not to split hairs here, but I'm going to

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Speaker 13: go ahead and do it. Even according to Kanye, this

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Speaker 13: now a part of this deal now, profiting off of

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Speaker 13: this deal now is just let me.

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Speaker 1: Just subject you to a lightning around really quickly, Joshua Ritter,

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Speaker 1: isn't it true that Sean Commes has just filed a

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Speaker 1: one hundred million dollar lawsuit against NBC?

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Speaker 2: Yes? No, yes, okay.

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Speaker 1: So if he has time to file multiple civil lasses,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have time to stop Kanye from selling his

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Speaker 1: Ditties T shirts.

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Speaker 2: He knows it's there. If I know it's there, he

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Speaker 1: So if he's filing all these civil lawsuits, why can't

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Speaker 1: he just ask Kanye to take down his merch unless

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Speaker 1: he's profiting from it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's kind of my point.

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Speaker 13: Maybe he is asking him, Maybe his team is reaching out,

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Speaker 13: don't I don't know if Kanye is listening to anyone.

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Speaker 13: You've got to imagine Kanye's got a team of people

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Speaker 13: telling him to put up a swastika shirt. Is not

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Speaker 13: a great idea, sir, and he's doing it anyway. So

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Speaker 13: I don't know if the idea of former business partners

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Speaker 13: sell my merchandise it's not the right time right now

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Speaker 13: is actually being received with all of them that much.

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Speaker 1: You're telling me everybody can control Kanye West. Well, here's

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Speaker 1: the guy that paid at least eight million dollars for

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl AD. Okay, here you go, puppy, here you go.

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Speaker 1: Here's your defense character witness number one.

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Speaker 5: I spent like all the money for a commercial.

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Speaker 6: On these new teeth. Once again, I had to shoot

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Speaker 6: it on the iPhone. Go to easy dot com.

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Speaker 2: That's from Yeezy LLLC.

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Speaker 3: Texas pastor TD Jakes. That's the court for help. After

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Speaker 15: In one of Sean Combs suits, I even said the apology,

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Speaker 15: and they still with me. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I said apologies.

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Speaker 15: Some of the stuff I was saying was true, And

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Speaker 15: so y'all come up and say, yo, what he was

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Speaker 6: Then go ahead, what on it?

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Speaker 2: Okay, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Kanye on TMZ talking about his apology.

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Speaker 2: Okay, take a listen to this now.

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Speaker 11: After the apology, Wes Tirade then takes an even darker turn,

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Speaker 11: I'm never apologizing for my Jewish comments. I can say

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Speaker 11: whatever the I want to say forever. Suck my How's

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Speaker 11: that for an apology? Wes then makes even more shocking tweets,

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Speaker 11: I'm a Nazi.

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Speaker 2: Hitler is so fresh. I love Hitler? What now? Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's really going to help Puffy? Good luck with that?

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Speaker 2: Did he?

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Speaker 4: And there's more. West tweets that he's uncancellable. What are

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Speaker 4: y'all gonna do? Cancel my record deal, freeze my accounts?

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Speaker 2: Call y'all.

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Speaker 4: West is referencing the fallout from his previous anti Semitic

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Speaker 4: comments in twenty twenty two that got him temporarily banned

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Speaker 4: When I wake up, I'm going death calm three on

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Speaker 1: Okay, there you go again. Shawn Comes's character witness number one.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for that cross examination, Like if i'd

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Speaker 1: like to do it myself. Now, how did a well

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Speaker 2: Listen?

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Speaker 14: In his own lawsuit, Rodney Lilrod Jones claims to have

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Speaker 14: irrefutable proof that Shawn Comb's plan to leverage his relationship

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Speaker 14: with TD Jakes to soften the damage to his reputation

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Speaker 14: as a result of Cassie Ventura's horrifying lawsuit. Comb's and

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Speaker 14: Jake's became associated when Jakes began a sermon series on

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Speaker 14: twenty twenty three, Jakes was accused of participating in Combe's

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Speaker 16: Jakes denies Okay Harmoney at Rodriguez joining US chief US

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Speaker 1: Pastor TD Jakes took part in sex parties.

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Speaker 2: With Sean Combs.

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Speaker 1: I mean the pastor is I think that was in

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Speaker 2: I don't believe that I agree.

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Speaker 10: I think this pastor, who's really popular in the Dallas

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Speaker 10: area in his megachurch, has been one of the high

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Speaker 10: profile people that have sort of caught in this story

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Speaker 10: because they used to hang out with Diddy a lot.

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Speaker 10: This pastor particularly particularly though, was really really close.

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Speaker 2: To the rapper.

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Speaker 10: As your report mentioned, he had his own show on

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Speaker 10: Ditty's Revolt Media. And most interestingly, as your report said,

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Speaker 10: Rodney Jones claims that Ditty was already setting up a

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Speaker 10: defense for himself because he knew that Cassie lawsuit would

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Speaker 10: inspire as it did dozens of other accusers, and that

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Speaker 10: he was counting of this very respected pastor to be

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Speaker 10: the person to tell the world that these were all lies,

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Speaker 10: that he knows that Ditty's a good man, and to

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Speaker 10: speak up for him.

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Speaker 2: However, that has not happened.

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Speaker 1: You know, doctor Bethany Marshall joining us renounce psycho analyst

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Speaker 1: and author Doctor Bethany I have been defending TD Jakes,

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Speaker 1: and I have met with a great.

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Speaker 2: Deal of criticism. I mean, who do you think.

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Speaker 1: A pastor is going to mentor have you ever heard

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Speaker 1: preaching to the choir?

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Speaker 2: You don't want.

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Speaker 1: To save the choir members? They're already saved. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: mean you were a missionary, your parents' missionaries who did

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Speaker 1: Christ minister? He ministered the untouchables, the people that had leprosy,

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Speaker 1: the outcasts, the tax collectors, the hookers, the criminals, those

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Speaker 1: people that others shunned.

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Speaker 2: So now T D.

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Speaker 1: Jakes I believe was targeted by Comes thinking that an

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Speaker 1: association with a man of God would somehow buff up

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Speaker 1: his own image. I don't know did Jakes have any

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Speaker 1: idea what Comes was doing?

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe not, But that does.

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Speaker 1: Not mean him ministering to colms or his group of cronies.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't make him a bad person.

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Speaker 1: I really resent people throwing Jakes and the pot to

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Speaker 1: stew with Sean Combs.

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Speaker 7: You know, Nancy, not only am I a preacher's daughter,

478
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Speaker 7: but I'm an ordained minister as well. And a part

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Speaker 7: of my training and my experience is that you don't

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Speaker 7: go into the ministry to help people who are rich

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Speaker 7: or famous, or healthy or have all the benefits of life.

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Speaker 7: You go into the ministry so that you can help

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Speaker 7: people who are in need. That means people who have

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Speaker 7: mental disorders, people who have personality disorders, people who have

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Speaker 7: poor judgment, you gravitate towards them, you try to mentor them,

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Speaker 7: and you know, Nancy, sometimes you get dirty, meaning that

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Speaker 7: you can't sanitize your experience and help a people. With

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Speaker 7: Ted Jakes, I think a couple of things happened.

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Speaker 2: I think that.

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Speaker 7: The rapper targeted him, first of all. Secondly, criminals always

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Speaker 7: find God right, So if we think of these rappers

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Speaker 7: and the criminal acts, of course they're going to associate

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Speaker 7: themselves with God. Sometimes, Nancy, they even think they are God.

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Speaker 7: And finally, have any of the parishioners come forward with

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Speaker 7: Ted Jakes and accused him of anything. I mean the

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Speaker 7: fact that there are no other accusations against him in

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Speaker 7: the coming days. If we see that nobody comes forward

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Speaker 7: and says TD Jakes violated me, then we have to

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Speaker 7: assume that TD Jakes is not a predator. Puff is

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Speaker 7: a little bit more cold blooded. Fits the stereotype of

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Speaker 7: associate path. Kanye does as well, but he's also very

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Speaker 7: erratic drug using and by his own admission to President Trump,

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Speaker 7: he's bipolar. And people are bipolar have fantasies of being unlimited.

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Speaker 7: They lack insight into what's happened to them, and they

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Speaker 7: could be very cruel and horrible to the people around them.

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Speaker 2: It's not just whispers.

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Speaker 1: Apparently evildoers have created AI faults. Of course, images of

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Speaker 1: this pastor engaged in crimes.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 9: Since Rodney Jones lawsuit, TD, Jake says he has become

511
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Speaker 9: a victim of widespread online misinformation. Hundreds of YouTube videos

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Speaker 9: created with AI falsely shows Jakes in a prison jumpsuit

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Speaker 9: purporting that he's been arrested in connection with Sean Combe's

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Speaker 9: federal sex trafficking case. Others go as far to show

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Speaker 9: doctrinate images of Jake's in bed with other black male celebrities.

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Speaker 9: Jones has asked a California clerk to subpoena Google to

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Speaker 9: get information on several YouTube accounts in hopes of sending

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Speaker 9: cease and desist orders or even filing defamation lawsuits.

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Speaker 2: So, Joshua Ritter, you're a veteran trial lawyer.

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Speaker 1: You see Jakes fighting back by trying to find out

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Speaker 1: from Google who created these false images of him, for instance,

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Speaker 1: in a prison jumpsuit, him for instance, taking part in

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Speaker 1: some type of an orgy all lies, I believe, and

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Speaker 1: he is actively fighting it by trying to get the

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Speaker 1: information and stopping the AI images and this is all

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Speaker 1: because of his association with Sean comes another victim as

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Speaker 1: far as I can tell, Well.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, and in demonstrates too how these narratives get spun

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Speaker 13: out of control.

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Speaker 6: Right, we live in.

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Speaker 13: Really scary and unfortunate times where people have access to

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Speaker 13: this type of technology and where a lie makes its

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Speaker 13: way around the world before the truth has time to

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Speaker 13: get out of bed. So here you have another example

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Speaker 13: of a person being accused of something with nothing to.

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Speaker 6: Back it up.

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Speaker 13: Now, am I going to then draw a connection between

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Speaker 13: that and what's happening with mister Homes?

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Speaker 6: Perhaps?

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Speaker 13: Is there a lot of noise out there? Is there

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Speaker 13: a lot of allegations? Is there a lot of people

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Speaker 13: spinning narratives out of control? Have we heard evidence that

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Speaker 13: the government has not put on their case yet? So

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Speaker 13: I think this demonstrates a kind of lesson for this

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Speaker 13: entire case. It's that narratives can't get out of troll

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Speaker 13: can control. People can spin up tails online and before

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Speaker 13: you know it, you're defending yourself against phantoms and made

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Speaker 13: up theories.

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Speaker 3: Brother Love won't be feeling much love this Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 3: As the infamous rapper and musician Sean Puppy Combs awaits

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Speaker 3: trial in prison, Keep running.

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Speaker 2: Stop calling me bizarre and press.

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Speaker 15: For all these years, I got to the point, how

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Speaker 15: many more times are gonna call me crazy? How many

555
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Speaker 15: more times are gonna give me fake medication that makes

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Speaker 15: me fat off of a misdiagno, when I really has

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Speaker 15: slight size of autism from the car accident.

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Speaker 1: What that's that's my friend, Harvey levin Iver at TMZ.

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Speaker 2: I need to see that again. Could you please roll

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Speaker 2: that one more time?

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Speaker 15: I keep running calling me bizarre and pressed for all

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Speaker 15: these years, I got to your point.

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Speaker 6: How many more times a you're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Call me crazy?

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Speaker 15: How many more times are you gonna give me fake

566
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Speaker 15: medication that makes me fat off of a misdiagnosis when

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Speaker 15: I really has slight signs of autism from the car accident?

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Speaker 2: Kim K what were you thinking? Again?

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Speaker 1: From our friends at TMZ. Now with a character witness

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Speaker 1: like that again, who needs enemies? I'm talking about Shawn

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Speaker 1: com sitting behind bars getting ready for his chicken patty

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Speaker 1: for dinner tonight for Valentine's Day. But another thing in

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Speaker 1: regard and I can't wait here. Lynn Shaw react to

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Speaker 1: this this character witness Kanye West just made a complete

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Speaker 1: horses asking himself again at the Grammys. Now he is

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Speaker 1: dissing all of the alleged victims in the Shawn Combs case.

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Speaker 1: He is mocking Cassie Ventira, who is beaten with an

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Speaker 1: inch of her life on video at the hands of

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Speaker 1: Sean Combs. And then he takes two the actual red

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Speaker 1: carpet and pulls a hateful, misogynistic stunt. There you go,

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Speaker 1: telling his wife Beyoncasen, sorry to drop her clothes. Okay,

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Speaker 1: who are you going to find to put on a

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Speaker 1: jury that hasn't heard about this harmonia?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you'd have to be under a.

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Speaker 1: Rock in a cave on the other side of the

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Speaker 1: world not to know about that. All of this is

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Speaker 1: putting the nails and Diddy's coffin.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it certainly is not going to help didd. He sorry,

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Speaker 10: Kanye Is stunt at the Grammys was really disturbing to people.

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Speaker 10: There was a lip reader that claimed that Kanye had

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Speaker 10: said something like make a show, put up a show

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Speaker 10: right before she dropped that code. So, of course this

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Speaker 10: has added to the idea that Bianca Sensory is some

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Speaker 10: type of victim in this situation and it's being controlled

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Speaker 10: by Kanye.

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Speaker 2: Kenny himself came out saying.

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Speaker 10: Later that trying to mock that narrative, saying that of

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Speaker 10: course he has dominion over his wife, and that I

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Speaker 10: mean that she wanted to do it, but that of

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Speaker 10: course she wouldn't have been allowed to do it if

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Speaker 10: he didn't approve of this. And once again he's using

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Speaker 10: his billions to justify all his behavior. He said something like,

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Speaker 10: do you think my wife cares about what you guys think?

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Speaker 10: She's a billionaire. So that's what he keeps going back to,

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Speaker 10: justifying or saying that none of what he does matters

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Speaker 10: because he's a billionaire.

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Speaker 1: You know, as I've often told Jerry's Lynshaw, who do

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Speaker 1: you think the defendant hangs around with nuns and priests

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Speaker 1: and virgins?

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Speaker 2: Misogynists hang out with misogynists.

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Speaker 1: It's acceptable, It's okay, And that's the window we're getting

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Speaker 1: the lens of Kanye West to see Sean comes his

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Speaker 1: alleged business partner.

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Speaker 8: Let's be real right now, as I do try to

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Speaker 8: remain calm everybody here, this is such I don't even

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Speaker 8: know the words to victims everywhere. Remember, everybody's watching this

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Speaker 8: case just this week. A couple of days ago, I

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Speaker 8: had a group and they were asking me again, what

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Speaker 8: do I think will happen here after? You know, Kanye

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Speaker 8: and Dirty Ditty, they're allowed to be online, They're allowed

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Speaker 8: to sell T shirts, They're allowed over and over again

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Speaker 8: to have a voice in the public. To me, I

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Speaker 8: look at this as media distraction a million percent. I

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Speaker 8: think this is just all a lot of noise to

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Speaker 8: distract from the victims, from survivors, and to keep their

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Speaker 8: voices squelched so we don't hear anymore. And you know what,

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Speaker 8: why would anybody want to come forward and try to

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Speaker 8: go to court when all of this is going on.

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Speaker 8: They'd rather just forget about it, keep their mouths shut

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Speaker 8: and not be involved. This is just a travesty and

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Speaker 8: you know what, this is not going to go down well,

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Speaker 8: that is my.

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Speaker 2: Prediction any of this.

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Speaker 11: Shawn Combs quickly realizes he made a huge mistake in

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Speaker 11: publicly acknowledging West's purported support. By Monday morning, his posts

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Speaker 11: on Instagram had been removed, no explanation necessary. Combs's team

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Speaker 11: has yet to comment on the pr disaster.

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Speaker 4: Macy's is arguing they should be dropped from a former

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Speaker 4: employee's sexual assault lawsuit, naming Sean Diddy Combs as his attacker.

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Speaker 4: The suit accuses the department store of violating a New

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Speaker 4: York gender violence law by covering up Comb's attack. Macy

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Speaker 4: Is now arguing the victim cannot allege Macy's had a

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Speaker 4: gender bias because Combs is willing to attack both men

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Speaker 4: and women. Their specific term an equal opportunity sexual predator.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Somehow Macy's Department store is dragged into all of this,

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Speaker 1: joining me Harmani Rodriguez, joining US CHIEFUS reporter dailymail dot com.

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Speaker 1: There are new claims, new charges against Shaan Combs.

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Speaker 2: What are they? It's incredible, Nancy.

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Speaker 10: I mean, there's over twenty lawsuits at this point, and

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Speaker 10: so many factors of American society are involved.

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Speaker 2: In this play in this case, including Macy's.

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Speaker 10: Because a former employee filed a lawsuit claiming that Macy's

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Speaker 10: failed to stop Ditty from assaulting them at the Herald

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Speaker 10: Square Macy's store in Manhattan.

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Speaker 2: This is truly something else.

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Speaker 10: Macy's, of course, wants nothing to do with the p

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Speaker 10: Ditty scandal, and they're saying, as your report said, kind

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Speaker 10: of like This was not about Mazy. You know, Diddy

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Speaker 10: is an equal opportunity assaulter and he would do this everywhere.

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Speaker 2: So it's not about Macy's. It's about this.

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Speaker 10: Serial alleged assaulter, rapist, et cetera. That's what Macy's is

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Speaker 10: hoping that a port will agree with.

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Speaker 1: You know Chris mcdana, former homicide did and now star

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Speaker 1: of the Interview Room on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: So much of this is a side show.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that has to be addressed because all of this

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Speaker 1: could affect a potential jury pool. But I wonder how

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Speaker 1: the victims are feeling, the alleged victims are feeling as

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Speaker 1: they see attention diverted away from what really happens to

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Speaker 1: them with life changing results, and all of this is

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Speaker 1: going on. It's a sideshow, and I just wonder can

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Speaker 1: it suck in just one jurrr.

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Speaker 12: You know, Nancy, I think that's why people love you

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Speaker 12: so much. You are so always on target about victim focus,

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Speaker 12: and in this situation, they do get lost in all

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Speaker 12: the noise around this predatorial apex behavior. Meaning this guy

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Speaker 12: is the top of the ring and you see through

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Speaker 12: the associations that he has that you know, the victims

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Speaker 12: do get lost. But when we see that video going

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Speaker 12: down the hallway and that poor woman on the ground

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Speaker 12: basically having to adapt to behavior that she has realized

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Speaker 12: has saved her, and then we look at the brutality

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Speaker 12: of the offender, you know, I hope a jury does

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Speaker 12: see it, quite frankly, and they put it in the

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Speaker 12: back of their head that this guy's just a phony

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Speaker 12: and he's a coward.

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Speaker 1: Again, Sean Colmes, not just presumed innocent. He is innocent

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Speaker 1: until he is proven guilty in court. Nancy Gray signing

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Speaker 1: off goodbye friend,