Speaker 1: Hello, what's up?
Speaker 2: What's up? What's your name?
Speaker 1: Edwin?
Speaker 2: Edwin? What's going on? Edwin?
Speaker 1: I'm at ketamine therapy.
Speaker 2: You're at ketamine therapy. Yep, like right now, you're at
Speaker 2: ketemine therapy.
Speaker 1: Yep, in the chair.
Speaker 2: You're in the chair right now. Are you tripping on
Speaker 2: ketemine right now?
Speaker 1: Coming down?
Speaker 2: Okay? How's that going?
Speaker 1: Pretty good? I'm a little nervous because I'm on the phone.
Speaker 1: I think it gotta be quiet.
Speaker 2: You're at a clinic, are they is there?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Shit? Is is there an IV in you right now?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, it's all a natal spray.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, but you still do it at a clinic?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I heard that you you you doing that before.
Speaker 2: I've I'm in the process of doing it now. I
Speaker 2: mean not, I'm not as in the process of doing
Speaker 2: it as you are. You're like literally at the clinic
Speaker 2: tonkademy right now talking to me. That's so funny, That's
Speaker 2: extremely funny. All right, So how was it? How was it?
Speaker 2: How was everything?
Speaker 1: Pretty good? I've been doing it since like September?
Speaker 2: And uh what did you think about during this particular session?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Short uh short trip? And now I'm coming down to
Speaker 1: like hour and a half.
Speaker 2: You've been coming down for an hour and a half. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: And what came up during the session. I'm asking you
Speaker 2: what they asked me when I do the thing? What
Speaker 2: came up?
Speaker 1: Uh hm hmm. Maybe like a relationship, like like questioning
Speaker 1: a relationship, Like I don't explain questions to ask a person. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like what to ask a person that I'm like seeing how.
Speaker 2: Long you've been seeing her?
Speaker 1: A couple of months?
Speaker 2: And what do you want to ask her?
Speaker 1: It's weird, like how she operates as a person, Like
Speaker 1: it's I don't know how to like, I just want
Speaker 1: to look into the future. I just want to look
Speaker 1: into the future and be like, how does this person
Speaker 1: fit into my life? If it's good or bad?
Speaker 2: But you want to ask her how she operates as
Speaker 2: a person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not that's not like a real You
Speaker 1: can't ask.
Speaker 2: That someone you know, No, you have to observe that, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to like find a question to get there.
Speaker 2: You know, so you've been seeing her for two months
Speaker 2: and you want to find out how she fits into
Speaker 2: your life? Yeah, are there any specific things that you
Speaker 2: feel like you don't know about her that you'd really
Speaker 2: like to know about her in terms of the way
Speaker 2: in which she may or may not fit into your life.
Speaker 1: Can you be the question?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, uh, what are you thinking about asking her?
Speaker 1: How is this? I'm sorry, my mind's racing, Like.
Speaker 2: I'll take your time, take your time, take all your time.
Speaker 2: I'll sit here with you.
Speaker 1: What do I want to ask her? It's just weird, man, bro,
Speaker 1: Like I've always liked there's always been a brick flag
Speaker 1: in the past for other people, but this time there isn't.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like maybe I'm just trying to find
Speaker 1: like an excuse of like which.
Speaker 2: Wall Oh yeah, like no I do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like like something this is going too well,
Speaker 1: you know, mm hmm. This is also one of those
Speaker 1: like invisible strings here he kind of things.
Speaker 2: Is it because you don't are you trying to look
Speaker 2: for something that is bad so that you can break
Speaker 2: up and find a new lady?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, not at all. I mean like there's
Speaker 1: always been a thing, so I'm not trying to find it.
Speaker 1: It's just like I'm waiting for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, like.
Speaker 1: It's self sabotaged kind of thing.
Speaker 2: But I don't know well, I'm like that too, where
Speaker 2: I'm like, there's always gonna be a thing Like that's
Speaker 2: my belief at least, And I don't even think that's
Speaker 2: an unrealistic belief. I believe that about every everything there's
Speaker 2: always a thing, you know, every good thing always has
Speaker 2: something attached to it, like I you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: maybe that's not true. Man, that's a version of life
Speaker 2: that I'm unnecessarily subjecting myself to. But there could there
Speaker 2: could be a thing out there that's just one hundred
Speaker 2: percent awesome, Like drinking water. There's never a situation where
Speaker 2: you shouldn't drink water.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Maybe everything is like that. Maybe everything is water, not
Speaker 2: everything with some things. Maybe there's more water type things
Speaker 2: out there, you know.
Speaker 1: You know Bruce Lee used to say, be water, you know,
Speaker 1: clow that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: You know, Bruce Lee. Yeah, he's dead, right. What's he
Speaker 2: doing these days?
Speaker 1: Sure's being in the ground deadly.
Speaker 2: I think he died. He was pretty young when he died.
Speaker 2: He was sucking thirty two. Holy shit, that's crazy, I'm
Speaker 2: almost thirty two. Yeah, how did.
Speaker 3: He do well?
Speaker 2: He was like, what's the possible causes of death?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: He took a lot of aspirin? Wait, hold on, Oh
Speaker 2: it was like it was Uh.
Speaker 1: Say again, I said, real, but I don't want to
Speaker 1: promote that.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Well you don't want to promote what.
Speaker 1: Taking a lot of aspirin? Oh?
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, I mean you're not promoting anything. You're just
Speaker 2: you're just this is just a conversation. But anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 2: what's your name again?
Speaker 1: Ed? I'll just say Edwin, you know.
Speaker 2: Uh, okay, So why do you like this lady? Let's
Speaker 2: do that. Why do you like her?
Speaker 1: Oh? She's awesome, man, Like we're it feels like we're
Speaker 1: the same person. We had like the same childhood. She's
Speaker 1: like a local person that like we never really saw
Speaker 1: each other. Uh, it's like a where have you been
Speaker 1: all my life? Type deal? Uh? Even though like she
Speaker 1: was like light underneath my nose. It's weird again.
Speaker 2: And you're trying to find really wrong with her mm.
Speaker 1: Hmm, but I'm trying to. It's just like it's strange
Speaker 1: that it hasn't happened.
Speaker 2: Is there anything wrong with is there anything wrong with
Speaker 2: how you perceive her?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Is there anything wrong with your experience?
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm thinking like that too much, Like I shouldn't
Speaker 1: be thinking like I shouldn't be trying to find a
Speaker 1: bad thing, you know, I should just be in the
Speaker 1: moment type type ship.
Speaker 2: How long you're doing this Kedemine stuff for?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm almost a year in September of year.
Speaker 2: How's it gone?
Speaker 1: What are you sorry? I'm more joyful, high on life,
Speaker 1: like compared to like a year ago. Likes just a
Speaker 1: tiny bit, but you know, anything helps.
Speaker 2: What are you going to do the rest of the day.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go out drinking. Me and this girl later
Speaker 1: with her friends.
Speaker 2: Sounds fun.
Speaker 1: Probably play, probably play PlayStation when I get home.
Speaker 2: What are you gonna play in the PlayStation? O?
Speaker 1: Little Batman? So good, so good lyle I recommend so
Speaker 1: it's so good.
Speaker 2: You don't have to recommend that. I already know that
Speaker 2: it's sick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty sick. We talked before.
Speaker 2: But by the way, where did we talk?
Speaker 1: Uh? You did like three second calls a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, and I was one of them.
Speaker 2: Okay, I doesn't count.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was kind of similar. But I don't want
Speaker 1: to like talk about like girl stuff because it seems whack.
Speaker 1: But that's well, That's where I'm at.
Speaker 2: You sent me a picture of yourself in Times Square
Speaker 2: with UFC fighter Nate Diaz, And then before that you wrote, Hey, Lyle,
Speaker 2: I ditched work to go to a strip club in
Speaker 2: Times Square. I would love to talk more. What strip
Speaker 2: club was this?
Speaker 1: It was one year Time Square.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, well, okay, all right, I knew that you
Speaker 2: said that.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was called.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fun. No, why did you have fun?
Speaker 1: I didn't have a lot of money.
Speaker 2: Okay, so long here. That is a good reason to
Speaker 2: not be having fun in the strip club.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: They were nice, though, but I guess that's their job
Speaker 1: to be nice.
Speaker 2: It is their job to be nice. Edwin, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: let you go. I think you gotta do some I
Speaker 2: think you get some stuff to do. I love you, Yle,
Speaker 2: Thank you, Edwin. I'll I'll see you around the universe. Man.
Speaker 2: Good luck, good luck with everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, I just want to say you're
Speaker 1: El Salvador or Guatemala video. It's awesome.
Speaker 2: Thank YouTube, Thanks bro, Thanks brother, how fuck you? I'm
Speaker 2: glad you watched that way. Yeah, but I worked really
Speaker 2: hard on that one. Thank you for watching that.
Speaker 1: And one more thing. I went to your art show,
Speaker 1: like twenty months ago, seventeen months ago, something like that.
Speaker 1: Thank you good, had a good time.
Speaker 2: You're awesome now, thanks brother, thank you man. I appreciate
Speaker 2: you all. Our pazz will cross again soon, some way, somehow. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I take it easy, brother, Wow, thank you. Edwina Strip
Speaker 2: Club and Times Square strip Club in Times Square. Maybe
Speaker 2: he went to the Eminem's store and he saw the
Speaker 2: green Eminem and he thought that was a strip club. Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 1: It's this mister Lyle the Gecko.
Speaker 2: This is mister Lyle the Gecko. And to whom do
Speaker 2: I have the pleasure of speaking? My name is Randy Rindy. Rindy.
Speaker 4: Oh, mister, are you ready for the story of a lifetime.
Speaker 2: Rinted around the rosies? You know what I've and I've
Speaker 2: said this before. A lot of people call in. They
Speaker 2: say I have the story of the lifetime. They say
Speaker 2: I have a crazy story. And then they say a
Speaker 2: bunch of stuff that doesn't make any sense. And then
Speaker 2: I say a bunch of stuff that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: But something about you, Rindy, I kind of trust you.
Speaker 2: I've only heard you say like two words, but I
Speaker 2: trust you. That you wouldn't probably say I have the
Speaker 2: story of a lifetime if you didn't mean it. I
Speaker 2: trust you, and you're backing out now you just I saw,
Speaker 2: I heard you, I felt you back out. Randy, trust yourself, Ody, Rindy, Randy, Rindy, Rindy, Rindy,
Speaker 2: you're backing out. You're going like, well, I don't know,
Speaker 2: you know you have to be that's not what we
Speaker 2: want right now, Wendy.
Speaker 4: We were we were right.
Speaker 2: We want yes, Lyle, yes, you're right to trust me.
Speaker 2: You're correct. Trust you are going to be like this
Speaker 2: is crazy story, but that's not what you were doing before.
Speaker 2: You were like, no, no, this is what this is
Speaker 2: what we want, Randy. We want this, Randy. So the
Speaker 2: rendy we want this is.
Speaker 4: This is going to be crazy, insane. Your job is
Speaker 4: going to be on the floor.
Speaker 2: Everything, Okay, double down, double day, all right, all right,
Speaker 2: I trust you. I trust you.
Speaker 4: The story takes place, oh, I mean you need a
Speaker 4: little context to it though, So a year ago in
Speaker 4: my hometown, not a very big one, only about eight
Speaker 4: hundred people in it. We have this fellow let's just
Speaker 4: call him Doug because he probably wouldn't like it. By
Speaker 4: use's real name, This Doug character. He's a real shitty person.
Speaker 4: I don't like him one bit, never have, never will.
Speaker 4: And he's always drinking and smoking and doing all that
Speaker 4: bad stuff. And one day he's decided he's going to
Speaker 4: go driving around drunk. And all the freshmen are having
Speaker 4: this bonfire, right, and he decides to pull up to
Speaker 4: this bonfire, which is only freshman drunk out of his mind,
Speaker 4: and he's dicking around the bonfire with a can of
Speaker 4: gasoline to rows it through there. What the hell do
Speaker 4: you think happens? He catches them on fire, literally burns them,
Speaker 4: and they have You've flown out out of state, big city,
Speaker 4: you know, and they're in there like intensive barn treatment
Speaker 4: for like hold.
Speaker 2: On, I just real quick? Is this listen? If is
Speaker 2: this your story? What how do you come in?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: This? Yeah? Yeah, this implied, this goes to it, right. Okay,
Speaker 4: this is not me, but this this is the context
Speaker 4: you need to know about this character, right. Okay, So
Speaker 4: let's fast forward probably six eight months from that, right,
Speaker 4: and I start dating this new girl. He's it's great,
Speaker 4: I love her, love her whole lot, right, and but
Speaker 4: she has this one issue that I'm not a huge
Speaker 4: fan of is that she's always hanging out with people, right,
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not an issue in of itself.
Speaker 2: Right Wait wait wait wait wait all right, Rendy, you've
Speaker 2: lost fifty my trust. I trust you fifty percent less
Speaker 2: than I did before. Why? Also, I'm I can't explain it.
Speaker 2: It's just it's a vibe thing. It's just a vibe thing.
Speaker 4: But oh, okay, okay, but we're still I'm.
Speaker 2: Still with you, Randy, I still come on that fifty.
Speaker 2: There's still fifty there. Let's focus on. We're gonna Randy,
Speaker 2: We're gonna do this. We're gonna do half glass, half full, Randy,
Speaker 2: We're gonna do a glass half full.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, this is my Wait.
Speaker 2: Why don't you like it when your girlfriend hangs out
Speaker 2: with people?
Speaker 3: Mmm?
Speaker 4: Minds you ex girlfriend? Now? But and she hangs out
Speaker 4: with that Doug guy.
Speaker 3: I don't like it, But I.
Speaker 4: Don't want to start an issue, so I don't say
Speaker 4: anything about it. Well guess what, Well, around probably a
Speaker 4: month or two after not a month or two, would
Speaker 4: probably be more like four after we start name, I
Speaker 4: get a phone call from her and she wants to
Speaker 4: break up with me. I'm devastated. I care about this
Speaker 4: girl so much. You know, I don't eat or sleep
Speaker 4: for probably a week. It's bad, man, it was bad,
Speaker 4: And you know what, I talked to some people about it,
Speaker 4: you know, and I realized that probably for the best.
Speaker 4: So I go into school next day and I'm sitting
Speaker 4: in my study hall and then when my buddies goes, hey,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not your ex went on a date
Speaker 4: with dog.
Speaker 3: What this guy?
Speaker 4: We'd be hanging out with my girlfriend, trying to hang
Speaker 4: out with her all the working time, and she get
Speaker 4: that shit happened, Randy.
Speaker 2: Randy, Yeah, I'm down to twenty five percent.
Speaker 4: Hell, so that is crazy, don't you agree?
Speaker 2: No, this is not that I want. I'm I'm I
Speaker 2: want to hear the rest of the story, Randy. But Brandy,
Speaker 2: how about this rendy skip to the part where my
Speaker 2: jaw is going to be on the floor, and then
Speaker 2: we'll fill in the context later.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, okay, So you know, I basically get cheated
Speaker 4: on for dog out of all people, right, I get
Speaker 4: played like a fiddle for dog Man and then right,
Speaker 4: and mind you, one of the worst parts about it
Speaker 4: is me and that girl. We live on the same road,
Speaker 4: and it's the only two houses on that road, right,
Speaker 4: And so every day I come home and I see
Speaker 4: that guy's that guy's beat up old truck, his his
Speaker 4: ship box there. And one day I'm sitting on my
Speaker 4: desk with my buddy, right, and I absolutely lose my shit. Right,
Speaker 4: But you got to mind you, my house is a
Speaker 4: little higher than hers, and I absolutely just lose my ship.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 4: I see him out on that Oh he hears every
Speaker 4: damn word I say. And I say some bad stuff,
Speaker 4: like things that the cops would not like. What's deliver?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: And then and he stares dead at me, and I
Speaker 4: know he reaches to truck, and I know right in
Speaker 4: his door, I know he keeps the fucking gun in there,
Speaker 4: and I know he reached in there. He looked at me,
Speaker 4: I looked at him, and I knew what he was
Speaker 4: reaching for. So, you know, I'm out of town for
Speaker 4: a little bit with my old man. But you know,
Speaker 4: I feel like, once I get back, I'm gonna have
Speaker 4: a real big issue with that guy. Is that the
Speaker 4: story for you?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, okay, I trust you. Well, I'm no, I'm
Speaker 2: no longer evaluating my level of trust with you because
Speaker 2: we're here, I'm with you in this, and we're gonna
Speaker 2: do this. But okay, okay, okay, hold on, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: gather myself.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 2: So this isn't a crazy story. This is a situation
Speaker 2: you're currently in where there's a gentleman who wants to
Speaker 2: kill you. Yeah, I believe, okay, And he knows where
Speaker 2: you live.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: His name is Doug.
Speaker 4: That's just his metaphor name. I wouldn't actually want to
Speaker 4: give out names here.
Speaker 2: Okay, is Doug. Yeah, what are you gonna do? What
Speaker 2: are you gonna do?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: Doug? Doug? I like Doug. Why don't you talk to
Speaker 2: Why don't you bring Doug a fucking pie or a
Speaker 2: cake or a cookie?
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, because I feel like i'd give
Speaker 4: it to Well, he's already on the heavier end of
Speaker 4: the spectrum, you know.
Speaker 2: But that's not that's not well, that's good. That means,
Speaker 2: that means that it's the kind of gift he would appreciate. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So why don't you make fucking make peace with Doug?
Speaker 2: What's your name, Randy? Yeah, Randy, Randy. Why don't you
Speaker 2: make peace with Doug? Give him a fucking cookie. Be like, hey,
Speaker 2: sorry for saying all this stuff. Let's be friends. Let's
Speaker 2: hang out. Take me in your truck, Let's ride around,
Speaker 2: Let's start fires, let's shoot guns, Let's hang out. Let's
Speaker 2: hang I hang out with Doug. What's wrong with Doug?
Speaker 4: Well? True, granted, I mean he took my girlfriend out
Speaker 4: from under my ex girlfriend out right from my to
Speaker 4: my feet. I feel like there's just like a conflict,
Speaker 4: not a conflict of interest. That's not the right way
Speaker 4: to put it, but you know it would be Oh
Speaker 4: you need I said all this stuff about how if
Speaker 4: I ever get my hands on him, you know, and
Speaker 4: then I'm just gonna be like, ye, you want to
Speaker 4: go come in my place?
Speaker 1: Eat pie?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Come?
Speaker 2: Why not? Why not? What else is there to do
Speaker 2: besides just what you want to escalate it? You want
Speaker 2: to be like you want to buy your own gun.
Speaker 2: You guys can kill each other. That's not a good idea.
Speaker 2: Buy a pie cheaper than a gun, by the way, Yeah,
Speaker 2: bring it to his house. Be like, hey, Doug, sorry,
Speaker 2: is set all that stuff. Let's hang out and meat
Speaker 2: pie and then be friends with him. You know what
Speaker 2: else is what else are you going to do? What
Speaker 2: else are you going to do, Randy, what's the better
Speaker 2: Give me the better solution than that. I don't think
Speaker 2: you can come up well.
Speaker 4: No, this was my joking idea around. You know, I
Speaker 4: kept on getting all these videos you know, streng beef.
Speaker 2: Don't do that though, that's not I him so much
Speaker 2: octon you know street beefs. Oh to fight him?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I go challenge him up there,
Speaker 4: you know, Randy, that's it. I know.
Speaker 2: By the way, Randy, here's the thing I know. I
Speaker 2: know what street beefs is. It's a it's a it's
Speaker 2: a homemade octagon where people who have real life beefs
Speaker 2: they go and they settle their beefs by having a
Speaker 2: fight with each other. That is kind of still uh
Speaker 2: uh it's a street fight, but if they play rules,
Speaker 2: there's a ref it's kind of more organized.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I have an idea. Maybe you and I we can
Speaker 2: work together. We can start this, Randy. Street pies. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's the opposite of the street.
Speaker 4: Pie.
Speaker 2: No, it's street pie. Two people they have a they
Speaker 2: have a beef with each other. They decide to squash
Speaker 2: it by each picking out a pie that they think
Speaker 2: the other might like and appreciate. They meet in the octagon,
Speaker 2: they give each other the pie, they hug, they kiss
Speaker 2: maybe the mouth, I don't know yet, and then they
Speaker 2: go home when everything's fine. And then everything is fine.
Speaker 2: They don't have to worry about getting shot in the
Speaker 2: face by random guy Doug or you know, getting what fight.
Speaker 2: You just eat pie and hang out. I don't Everything's
Speaker 2: got to be more. Nothing has to be more complicated
Speaker 2: than that. I go straight pies. That's my idea for this.
Speaker 4: I I like that pie is my favorite dessert too,
Speaker 4: So you need that on the head.
Speaker 2: You guys can strict.
Speaker 4: Like the hook is in my mouth currently, and it's
Speaker 4: almost that. I don't know. I just maybe I know
Speaker 4: I'm not in the place to be doing any bargaining,
Speaker 4: but you know, I just feel like I need the hooks.
Speaker 1: That at all?
Speaker 2: Rindy, is there anything else?
Speaker 1: Who?
Speaker 2: I say to the people as a computer before we go, don't.
Speaker 4: Let your girlfriend hanging out with people who should be
Speaker 4: in jail and America. You have a great day, mister.
Speaker 2: Lyle you Tody, take care, go get it, go, get
Speaker 2: your friend a pie, all right, Get well?
Speaker 4: I think I actually will make peace with them, though.
Speaker 2: I should ironically let me know. You get him a pie.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll let you know if I get him a pie, will.
Speaker 2: Let you know call me back? Okay, great, I'll take
Speaker 2: you Indy.
Speaker 4: Goodbye, Low You have a great yesterday.
Speaker 2: You too, by.
Speaker 4: Bye bye. Man.
Speaker 2: I want to someone to get me a pie, a
Speaker 2: chocolate pie. I was somewhere today I saw a lemon
Speaker 2: menagerie pie. I was like, that, would that looks like
Speaker 2: it'd be fun to throw in someone's face, not in
Speaker 2: the hostile way, but in like a clowny joking way,
Speaker 2: and then to eat street pies. Hello, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Is it really you?
Speaker 2: Is it really?
Speaker 1: Who?
Speaker 2: Who is this?
Speaker 1: And?
Speaker 4: Sorry?
Speaker 1: Who are you?
Speaker 2: Listen? We don't have to make this weird. We can
Speaker 2: make this a perfectly normal, common starting right now. Hell,
Speaker 2: and you know, I take my I'm going to take
Speaker 2: responsibility for making this weird because I could have started
Speaker 2: this completely normally, and so I'm going to do that now. Hello,
Speaker 2: my name is Lyle. I'm the Get Go I do
Speaker 2: the Therapy Uticle podcast. What is your name?
Speaker 4: My name's Oliver.
Speaker 2: There we go. See I could have just been a
Speaker 2: normal human being for the first part of it. I
Speaker 2: do that something. You ever go into an interaction and
Speaker 2: you're like, I made this weird for no reason. I
Speaker 2: could have just been a normal person.
Speaker 1: Yeah all the time.
Speaker 2: When was the last time that can remember?
Speaker 4: Well, I think it happens to really too much. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm not really sure about the last time. But way,
Speaker 4: people are really right when they say that you sound
Speaker 4: completely different overcall anyway.
Speaker 2: What's your name, my friend?
Speaker 1: My name's Oliver.
Speaker 2: Oliver you said that already. Uh, where are you calling from?
Speaker 2: Are French?
Speaker 5: You think I'm fringed?
Speaker 2: I think you're French, that's my guess.
Speaker 5: Okay, I would think that as a companiment and ins
Speaker 5: But I'm from Malaysia.
Speaker 2: You're from Malay you're Malaysian.
Speaker 5: Yeah. It's actually like in the middle of the night
Speaker 5: right now, I couldn't sleep and I was just listening
Speaker 5: to the podcast to fall asleep, and I saw your stories.
Speaker 5: So I decided a message.
Speaker 2: I'm going out. Hold on, give me, I'm going on
Speaker 2: Google Maps because I know where I know about Asia.
Speaker 2: I know Malaysia opposite Malaysia is what the Spanish called
Speaker 2: bad Asia.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 2: Let's see here. Malay Malaysia, Malaysia. It's a oh you're
Speaker 2: Are you near Koala Town, Koala Town.
Speaker 1: Kala U.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's in. It's a city in Malaysia.
Speaker 2: Cool. It's hot as fuck over there, isn't it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, especially the humidity.
Speaker 2: Okay, see you're in Kohala Town, bad Asia. How old
Speaker 2: are you, Oliver? I making you're eighteen? Oh wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been listening to the podcast since I was
Speaker 5: I think fourteen.
Speaker 2: Oh respect man, respect. I always think like, oh God,
Speaker 2: go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I used to always think.
Speaker 5: Like, oh I went to like call in and like
Speaker 5: live on my age because like I was in eighteen.
Speaker 5: I remember seeing that it to be eighteen to call in.
Speaker 5: But it's kind of crazy that the one time I
Speaker 5: finally like decide to like even send the message, I'm
Speaker 5: already you know, it's been four years.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been sorry, I'm just some on Google Maps.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at Malaysia. Have you ever been to the
Speaker 2: Battoo Metropolitan Park. That's where I would go if I
Speaker 2: lived in Koala, Malaysia.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I'm not sure. Maybe I know
Speaker 1: it by a different name.
Speaker 2: So okay, you sent me a text by the way,
Speaker 2: you sent me a text and you said, hey, gak,
Speaker 2: I've been a fan for years and listening to the
Speaker 2: podcast has made me money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the most captivating thing I could think of.
Speaker 1: But that's true.
Speaker 2: What does that mean that it's made you money?
Speaker 5: Well, okay, so one night I was listening to the
Speaker 5: podcast and does this kind of like finance bro guy
Speaker 5: you know it's on it, like a very productive guy
Speaker 5: who just you know, does a lot of stuff in hustles.
Speaker 5: And he was talking about like treading. Do you remember
Speaker 5: that guy, like treating and problems?
Speaker 2: Is it the guy? Is it the DJ guy who
Speaker 2: has all the sugar mamas?
Speaker 5: I think it might be that guy. Yeah, it might
Speaker 5: be that guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I remember that guy. He's a good army. Okay,
Speaker 2: you heard him. You heard him talk about that, and
Speaker 2: you decided to try it.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean it immediately caught my attention because you know,
Speaker 5: the second he said you can pass a challenge and
Speaker 5: treate it with a lot of other people's capital or
Speaker 5: like just you know a lot of capital and get
Speaker 5: paid from that. Like that immediately caught my attention. So
Speaker 5: I got out of it and I looked it up
Speaker 5: and at first I just thought, you know, oh, it's
Speaker 5: one of those one of those things.
Speaker 1: I'll look it up more in the morning.
Speaker 5: And when I checked it out, I just thought, well,
Speaker 5: it's it's probably not realistic, and I saw the prices
Speaker 5: of the accounts, so I just figured maybe some.
Speaker 2: Other day, okay. So I didn't make him money.
Speaker 5: It did because one day I decided to look more
Speaker 5: into it, because you know, I'd like to do a
Speaker 5: lot of side hustles or think about starting businesses or
Speaker 5: even just anything that can make me money. But one
Speaker 5: day I really looked into it and I thought, well,
Speaker 5: fucking let me try it out. And the cheapest account
Speaker 5: I could find was like twenty two USB, which is
Speaker 5: like eighty bucks in my country, which is rather cheap.
Speaker 5: So I decided to give you a shot. And you know,
Speaker 5: at first I was bad, and then it just took
Speaker 5: I just went down this massive rabbit hole. And you know,
Speaker 5: for me, like a small part of it is actually
Speaker 5: the money. But you just hear so many people say
Speaker 5: that it's like really risky or hot, and which you
Speaker 5: know they're right, but I just wanted to prove them wrong.
Speaker 5: And like two three months later, I managed to give
Speaker 5: my first payout.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been to the per Donna Botanical Gardens?
Speaker 2: That looks nice?
Speaker 5: Probably, but you know, I don't visit a lot of
Speaker 5: like places in my country. I mean, I have a
Speaker 5: long time ago, but you know, they're they're kind of interesting,
Speaker 5: but you know, to me, they're kind of boring because
Speaker 5: I live here.
Speaker 2: What do you do all day in Koala, Malaysia? Well, I.
Speaker 5: I like to learn a lot, you know, I spend
Speaker 5: a lot of time on YouTube or well now I
Speaker 5: trade for maybe a couple hours a day. I also,
Speaker 5: you know, I go to university, so some of my
Speaker 5: time taking up by that. Listen to music.
Speaker 2: It's cool, it's cool. Do you have a lot of
Speaker 2: friends in Koala, Malaysia?
Speaker 4: Previously?
Speaker 1: Not so much?
Speaker 2: Now interesting? What happened?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 2: Why do you used to have more friends than you
Speaker 2: do now?
Speaker 4: Well, so.
Speaker 5: I changed schools when I was fourteen, and I've been
Speaker 5: at that school for my whole life, and I had
Speaker 5: a lot of close friends, but you know, I believe
Speaker 5: and since then, I've only had like kind of like
Speaker 5: one main friend.
Speaker 2: Who's your one main friend?
Speaker 5: He's a guy from my first school, but you know,
Speaker 5: and we lost touch as well, but then we started
Speaker 5: talking like a couple of years back, and then he
Speaker 5: became friends again.
Speaker 2: And what do you think it is that connects you
Speaker 2: to this one guy? Because he's from the first school,
Speaker 2: So you lost touch with a bunch of other people,
Speaker 2: but you kept in touch with this guy. So what
Speaker 2: was it about this guy that you feel kept the
Speaker 2: connection going.
Speaker 5: Well, I think we share a lot of the same
Speaker 5: ideas around having to like try to make money at
Speaker 5: a young age, and you know, like what was having
Speaker 5: fun but also not just being complecent. So I think
Speaker 5: that kind of joins us. I think there's still a
Speaker 5: lot of differences between him and I, but you know,
Speaker 5: sometimes you just have to forgive what the differences to difference?
Speaker 2: Does he also live in Koala, Malaysia or does he
Speaker 2: live somewhere else?
Speaker 5: Yeah, he lives in Manesia, but a different city than me.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you've been hopping around cities so all these
Speaker 2: so you've been hopping around all the time.
Speaker 5: Well, actually no, because I've been living in the same
Speaker 5: house my entire life. School change, yeah only.
Speaker 2: Ones okay, and you didn't but you because of the
Speaker 2: school change. But even though but you didn't stay friends
Speaker 2: with the people from the first school, even though.
Speaker 5: It was actually a bunch of assholes. O.
Speaker 2: They're at the aunt of assholes, Okay.
Speaker 5: I mean, like if they're close to you, then they're
Speaker 5: two people. But you know they would also kind of
Speaker 5: not talk to.
Speaker 1: You if.
Speaker 5: You leave.
Speaker 2: So is that why you think they're a bunch of assholes?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I think I think like just I mean, I think
Speaker 5: they can be like good friends in the moment, but
Speaker 5: like I think the outlook on life is very you know,
Speaker 5: short term. Then they don't really have their ships.
Speaker 2: Tell me about uh well, I mean these are young kids, right,
Speaker 2: these are like, you know, sixteen fifteen year old people, right, like,
Speaker 2: how what's there? What's their life? What's their outlook on
Speaker 2: life that you find that you are that you are
Speaker 2: disdained by?
Speaker 5: M I think, you know, I think the way they
Speaker 5: just treat people, they can be a bit disrespect for.
Speaker 5: And I think they you know, like they kind of
Speaker 5: like treat their parents' money or their allowances as their own,
Speaker 5: which you know, it's completely fine, but like they're just
Speaker 5: kind of douchey about it, you know, so they just
Speaker 5: seem like un serious and then not fun way, like
Speaker 5: there's some level of unseriousness where it's like fun and
Speaker 5: for them it's like they don't know what they're doing
Speaker 5: with their lives, so they're also probably just not the
Speaker 5: best friends.
Speaker 2: And what's your dream for the future, Oliver, You seem
Speaker 2: like an ambitious young man. What's the what's the goal
Speaker 2: for you?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: I think I think just too, you know, And sometimes
Speaker 5: I think to myself that in the pursuit of money,
Speaker 5: I lose myself because sometimes that's all.
Speaker 1: I think about.
Speaker 5: All they and I said the dinner table, and I
Speaker 5: just kind of zone out, like looking at the wall,
Speaker 5: just you know, I go off into my own brain
Speaker 5: thinking about things and don't talk a lot. But you know,
Speaker 5: so sometimes, you know, and especially these days, I give
Speaker 5: a bit, I mean, not as much existential anymore. But
Speaker 5: I kind of like wonder what I even want because
Speaker 5: I spent so much of my time thinking about like
Speaker 5: money and like success and being able to have nice
Speaker 5: things or live comfortably. But you know, sometimes maybe I
Speaker 5: maybe that's not what.
Speaker 1: I truly want.
Speaker 2: So what's the deal with your parents? Do you live
Speaker 2: with your parents?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And how are they as people?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, my parents were like separated from basically as
Speaker 5: far as I can remember. But now I kind of
Speaker 5: have a step father, I mean not officially made, but
Speaker 5: you know, he's quite close and he stays with us too.
Speaker 2: Are your parents both living in Koala?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Hold on my phone thing went off, so when they
Speaker 2: were separate, so they've been living in the same city.
Speaker 2: So you're it's not like your dad like went to
Speaker 2: Yugoslavia and left you like he was like, You're they
Speaker 2: were both around when you were.
Speaker 5: Growing Oh, yeah, they're both around. Like I used to
Speaker 5: go to my photo's place every day after school, so
Speaker 5: I used to be like, right, I assume I assume
Speaker 5: him close to him, But I just feel like when
Speaker 5: I grew up, I kind of just enough into my
Speaker 5: own world.
Speaker 2: Is is that where you got the uh, your whole like, uh,
Speaker 2: I want to be a successful businessman thing from Is
Speaker 2: it from your dad's from your mom or is it
Speaker 2: just from from observing the universe and coming to your
Speaker 2: own conclusions.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think a lot of the conclusions that come
Speaker 5: to are like self generated, because you know, as much
Speaker 5: as a job like my own opinions from other people,
Speaker 5: I think a lot like most of the time, So yeah,
Speaker 5: I think it's self generated. But also I can relate
Speaker 5: it to how my life has been, Like I don't
Speaker 5: I live comfortably, but I don't live lavishly by any means.
Speaker 5: And my father, he's an author, and you know, like
Speaker 5: so like he hasn't worked in a job for quite
Speaker 5: a while and that's okay, but you know, I so,
Speaker 5: but but we also live quite quite trually, so so
Speaker 5: I know it's like to to you know, not have everything.
Speaker 5: And I think that definitely if he was mine my
Speaker 5: appetite for success in the future or even now. But
Speaker 5: I don't think that's the main driving force.
Speaker 2: Your dad is an author?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what kind of stuff?
Speaker 2: What kind of stuff does he write about?
Speaker 1: Fiction? Books? Mm?
Speaker 2: Hmm, And that's been he's but he's wiping.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 5: I mean he used to work a long while back,
Speaker 5: maybe when I was very young, but he's, uh, he's
Speaker 5: been writing a book for the last I think almost
Speaker 5: ten years or maybe ten years.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: Have you read his books?
Speaker 5: I want to one day, because he's only written one
Speaker 5: official published book, but I still haven't read it because
Speaker 5: I'm a very slow reader, Like I probably only read
Speaker 5: two books in my dire life.
Speaker 2: Same man, what not even like when you went to
Speaker 2: like in high school and middle school, and shit, they
Speaker 2: didn't like make you read books.
Speaker 5: They didn't make you read, but we would read like
Speaker 5: three quarters of the book in class, and when the
Speaker 5: year ended, we kind of, I just you know, never
Speaker 5: really read it. And I was my friends used to
Speaker 5: also kind of forced me to read or like treasure
Speaker 5: me to read, like or I wouldn't be able to,
Speaker 5: like I don't use my cabinet or something. So I
Speaker 5: also have kind of a bad, you know, bad relationship
Speaker 5: with reading, especially fiction books.
Speaker 2: You said something a little earlier about like your main
Speaker 2: philosophy or your main Outlook, what is that?
Speaker 4: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: I'm trying to pick up on something you said earlier.
Speaker 2: You said it in the same breath as the saying
Speaker 2: that your dad was an author. So I asked you
Speaker 2: that question. But I want to tell us to ask
Speaker 2: you about your main philosophy.
Speaker 5: Of what I would like to become in the future.
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, yes, Well I always.
Speaker 5: Wanted to start my own business. But I started a
Speaker 5: clothing business and my friend, I'm not a big clothing person,
Speaker 5: but he liked clothing a lot, so you know, we
Speaker 5: went with that business. It didn't really work out because
Speaker 5: I think I just wasn't good at marketing that well,
Speaker 5: and I think I spent on the wrong things, and
Speaker 5: you know, but at the end of the day, I think,
Speaker 5: if you know, in the right industry, you just it's
Speaker 5: just very hard to succeed. But yeah, so I hope
Speaker 5: one day in the future I can stand out of business,
Speaker 5: hopefully be successful, be something that I like more, in
Speaker 5: the industry that I like more. But you know, for now,
Speaker 5: I'm kind of just focusing on making enough money too
Speaker 5: to be able to live comfortably at a young age.
Speaker 5: I think that's I think that's a dream for now.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I think it over the ambitious, but I think,
Speaker 5: you know, baby steps.
Speaker 2: What is the economy like in in Koala?
Speaker 5: It's well, it's not bad. Anyone from Malaysia will obviously
Speaker 5: tell you about the corruption back then. Now it's not
Speaker 5: it's not it's not too bad. It's not like some
Speaker 5: countries where it's just so blatant. But yeah, I don't
Speaker 5: know if you heard about it. I think maybe someone
Speaker 5: may have called in before and talked about it.
Speaker 1: But have you heard of one m dB.
Speaker 2: I have never heard of one m dB.
Speaker 4: What is that.
Speaker 5: Okay, so it's like our prime minister back then he Okay,
Speaker 5: I'm not the best way to ask about this because
Speaker 5: you know, sometimes I don't look up too many things
Speaker 5: about my country. But basically, there's a bunch of money
Speaker 5: laundering and text they took the taxpayers money for themselves.
Speaker 5: And but you know, you know the Wolf of Paul Street, right, yeah,
Speaker 5: the movie. The guy who produced the movie and funded
Speaker 5: it is from my country and he used the he
Speaker 5: got money to fund I have.
Speaker 2: Heard of this. I have heard of this. Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: from he's from Malaysia.
Speaker 5: Yeah, then he he kind of fled.
Speaker 2: Okay, well I'm gonna look this guy up, wolf of
Speaker 2: what No, his name is Jolo Street. But does that
Speaker 2: have something to do with the government.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the prime minister.
Speaker 2: Then one mdb skety Yeah, this guy Riza asease.
Speaker 1: It's uh.
Speaker 4: The main guy's name is jo j hh o o
Speaker 4: w oh.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so there's a lot of corruption. But
Speaker 2: how's the like like this, Like I'm I'm talking like,
Speaker 2: how's like the cost.
Speaker 5: Of not a lot of corruption? But yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 5: possibly being not too bad. Like you know, how a
Speaker 5: lot of white people go to Bali or like Asian countries.
Speaker 5: I think my country is becoming more popular in that
Speaker 5: aspect because sure it might not be as polished as Singapore.
Speaker 5: It's definitely way cheaper than Singapore. But it's it's not bad.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: Some sometimes people we talk talk smack about like the
Speaker 5: country a little, but it's actually really not that bad.
Speaker 5: And there are a lot of things to like about
Speaker 5: it as well.
Speaker 1: But yeah, of course of living isn't too bad.
Speaker 5: I mean I'm speaking from a point of view where
Speaker 5: I don't pay for that many things, but it's it's
Speaker 5: rather affordable.
Speaker 2: So like Okays, so you guys are getting the Bali
Speaker 2: treatment where people are going to Malaysia and they're starting
Speaker 2: fucking yoga studios and stuff like that. What how does
Speaker 2: that affect you guys? Is that is that bad?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: Will people always say that it is?
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 5: It's not really that bad.
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 5: People from other countries would mainly go through the city
Speaker 5: area where prices can get quite expensive, or like expats
Speaker 5: with in certain areas where they hike the prices up.
Speaker 5: But if you stay away from those areas, I don't
Speaker 5: mind paying to eat in those areas every now and then,
Speaker 5: and the food's always good and the environment's quite nice.
Speaker 5: But there's always a cheap option in this country, and
Speaker 5: and it's a it's a reasonable option, like we have
Speaker 5: cookie giums and mamas. I'm sure you don't know what
Speaker 5: those means, but basically it's like like small stalls where
Speaker 5: the food would be.
Speaker 1: In US.
Speaker 5: He probably three dollars or less.
Speaker 2: Do do people?
Speaker 4: Uh uh? Do you like?
Speaker 2: Do you like Malaysia? Do you see yourself living there
Speaker 2: for a long time? Or do you want to leave?
Speaker 5: I've always been the guy who wants to leave.
Speaker 2: I can tell that about you.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, I don't. I don't hate my country.
Speaker 5: I like my country, and I think I like it
Speaker 5: more over time because I started seeing the good and things.
Speaker 5: But I think, especially recently, I started kind of like
Speaker 5: have you watched Eternal Sun China to Spotless mind? I'm
Speaker 5: going off, I have I watched it? Yeah, that's my
Speaker 5: favorite movie all the time. You can talk about that later,
Speaker 5: but so you know how like, okay, spoilers for anyone
Speaker 5: who hasn't watched it, because it's a very good movie,
Speaker 5: but you know how like they wanted to eraise each other,
Speaker 5: and you know, and surely it was like kind of
Speaker 5: a doctor relationship and whatnot. But towards the end of
Speaker 5: the movie, you they actually regret their decision and want
Speaker 5: to reverse it. That's that's how I felt recently, I
Speaker 5: mean to an extent, and also because I made some
Speaker 5: money trading, so it's just and being rich in this
Speaker 5: country is quite nice because everything's rather affordable, so you know,
Speaker 5: like the money I would make, it would be like
Speaker 5: I would be able to spend a lot more of
Speaker 5: it here because everything's slightly cheaper than Australia or the US.
Speaker 5: So I mean, yeah, So I started thinking about, like
Speaker 5: if I had money, I would actually kind of like
Speaker 5: staying here more because life would like I tried to
Speaker 5: move to Australia. I think it just started next year
Speaker 5: to transfer universities. But I thought about, like if I
Speaker 5: had like the money, if I was making decent money
Speaker 5: or good money over here versus Australia, I would be
Speaker 5: a rich person over here, but over there I would
Speaker 5: be you know, maybe up middle class.
Speaker 2: What do you say.
Speaker 5: In university, I'm studying finance right now. I used to
Speaker 5: study computer science. I did that for like one semester,
Speaker 5: and then I realized, like the job markets kind of
Speaker 5: you know, I'm not well. I mean, it's bad, but
Speaker 5: it's also shifting too fast, and by the time I
Speaker 5: finished university, you know, be completely different. So I think
Speaker 5: that was a bit too volatile. And I've always liked
Speaker 5: finance for all my life, so I thought that's just
Speaker 5: a safer, more interesting option.
Speaker 2: Oliver, Oliver, Oliver, Well, Oliver, h thanks for giving us
Speaker 2: your this little window into your life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for calling I okay to this the thanks.
Speaker 5: Then I feel like I'm like very slightly suited, and
Speaker 5: I get quite annoyed. That well, not annoyed, but like
Speaker 5: you know when some tallers all like, you know, they
Speaker 5: don't have me dogs, and I'm like, but no one,
Speaker 5: no one knows it's you. No one knows that you're vlaye,
Speaker 5: like you know, no one cares. But to an extent,
Speaker 5: I also feel quite filtered, because.
Speaker 1: You know who knows?
Speaker 2: You feel quite if? I'm sorry, you feel quite what.
Speaker 1: Southed?
Speaker 2: You feel filtered?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: F I T L E R E D filtered?
Speaker 1: Yeah I f I.
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, sorry, fucked that up? Why do you
Speaker 2: what do you mean? What do you mean by you
Speaker 2: feel filtered?
Speaker 1: I don't know I.
Speaker 5: Feel like I can't see something, so I'm not I'll
Speaker 5: not see some things, but I feel like I don't know.
Speaker 5: I feel like my life is a lot deeper than
Speaker 5: the things I said. I feel like I said the
Speaker 5: surface level things that I don't mind other people who
Speaker 5: may know me hearing may you.
Speaker 2: And jose Man. You guys, there's no there's there's no
Speaker 2: perfect way to do this. You know, this is I
Speaker 2: feel like we got a pretty decent window into your life. Yeah,
Speaker 2: is there anything you want to say to the people
Speaker 2: of the computer before we go, Oliver, Mmm.
Speaker 5: I'd like to say, yeah, I know it doesn't have
Speaker 5: to be inspirational, but uh, just don't don't give up,
Speaker 5: and you know, just keep moving forward because at energy
Speaker 5: as long as you try, there's a possibility that things
Speaker 5: may turn out.
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling, Oliver, Thank you yet, see you man,
Speaker 2: see you Hello. Hello, Hey, it says here you wanted
Speaker 2: to talk about Spider Man two.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Toby Maguire, okay, Spider two.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, so I like Spider Man two, but I'm honestly,
Speaker 4: like not that knowledgeable about it.
Speaker 3: I just had like an obsession with Spider Man two
Speaker 3: for a while and.
Speaker 2: What do he likes so much about Spider Man two?
Speaker 3: Uh, it's silly.
Speaker 4: We got we got Toby being all silly and his
Speaker 4: acting's really bad.
Speaker 2: Nervis he's the best. Yeah, he's like one of the
Speaker 2: fan favorites. I like that scene in Spider Man three
Speaker 2: when he becomes evil and then makes some like horny
Speaker 2: and stuff and he like starts walking out being all crazy.
Speaker 4: I actually haven't even seen Spider Man three or the
Speaker 4: first Spider Man, but I've only seen Spider Man two.
Speaker 2: What made you want to talk about Spider Man two?
Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't really want to talk about it that much.
Speaker 4: It was more just like something to say. I also
Speaker 4: got confused earlier. I thought that I got on the
Speaker 4: phone with you, but I was just your h your
Speaker 4: system thing, okay, because I heard you talking and I
Speaker 4: was like, you did, Tim, But it wasn't you.
Speaker 2: Do you often run into situations on a day to
Speaker 2: day basis in which you feel confused.
Speaker 3: Sometimes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say I get confused fairly often. But
Speaker 4: also a part of my job, I can't really get
Speaker 4: too confused, uh, because I work as an ASL interpreter.
Speaker 4: So if I'm confused then I can't really do my
Speaker 4: job very well.
Speaker 2: Did you get confused today at all?
Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, dude, I was just so confused. I was
Speaker 4: trying do you know what a Razor Tartarus is?
Speaker 2: No, what is a Razor Tartarus.
Speaker 4: It's it's like an ergonomic gaming keyboard which you used
Speaker 4: with only one hand, so you have like access to
Speaker 4: like fourteen keys with one hand, and it kind of
Speaker 4: like fits your your palm really well. It looks kind
Speaker 4: of like futuristic.
Speaker 2: Look it up. I'm going to look it up.
Speaker 1: What is it again?
Speaker 4: It's yeah, you know the brand Razor, like the green
Speaker 4: like snakes gamer brand, the Razor tartarists like Tar t
Speaker 4: ar Us or something.
Speaker 2: Wow, this looks cool. This looks fucking crazy, fucking Thanos's gauntlet.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I was trying to like fix it because one
Speaker 4: of the like the space bar thing is like jammed
Speaker 4: on it, so I can't like really use it very well.
Speaker 4: So I was trying to fix it. So I bought
Speaker 4: like some tiny screwdrivers, but I was just like taking
Speaker 4: a bunch of screws out and like it just wasn't
Speaker 4: coming apart. I don't know what the hell is what
Speaker 4: I was doing, but I pulled some things out and
Speaker 4: I think the space bar is working better now.
Speaker 2: Is it for like disabled people, like one handed people?
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so, because you have to like
Speaker 4: use that in combination with a with a with a
Speaker 4: mouse like that being a stationary it's not also a mouse. Yeah, No,
Speaker 4: it's just uh, just for people who want to be
Speaker 4: more ergonomic with their gaming.
Speaker 2: I guess do you play a lot of World of Warcraft? No?
Speaker 4: I play League of Legends with it, or I used
Speaker 4: to play League of Legends with it. I haven't used
Speaker 4: it in a while because it's broken. I was like
Speaker 4: thinking I was going to use it again, but I
Speaker 4: don't know. It's also kind of weird to get used to.
Speaker 3: I'm not that good. I'm gold too in League of Legends.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 4: I'm I feel like that's right around average, maybe a
Speaker 4: little bit above average.
Speaker 2: What do you think about all.
Speaker 3: What I think about all day?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think about what am I missing? What am I
Speaker 3: not doing?
Speaker 4: I always think I'm like forgetting something, so I'm always
Speaker 4: trying to think of what it is that I'm forgetting.
Speaker 3: Mm and where I'm needed.
Speaker 2: It sounds really stressful.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I don't know that's that's in my current day
Speaker 4: to day thinking. Because I'm at a new job right
Speaker 4: now and I'm the only person there who does what
Speaker 4: I do. I'm kind of needed around the whole building.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you're the only person there that thinks?
Speaker 3: Uhh No, there's a lot of thinking going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, are your thoughts typically good ones or bad ones?
Speaker 3: Good or bad? I don't I know, No, I I
Speaker 3: don't think that I ascribe good or bad to my thoughts.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I respect that you don't have a value
Speaker 2: judgment on the thoughts. You just the thoughts are thoughts. Yeah, yeah, respect,
Speaker 2: i'd say that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So you're a sign language interpreter, I am. What if
Speaker 2: someone wants to say something and there's no signage for that,
Speaker 2: Like if, like you just said the word ergonomic, if
Speaker 2: someone's ergonomic, is there a do you have a way
Speaker 2: to sign the word ergonomic?
Speaker 4: So yeah, what I'm thinking to do, I would probably
Speaker 4: sign like comfortable, match your hand, like you kind of
Speaker 4: expand on the concept.
Speaker 1: And sort of. Yeah.
Speaker 4: A lot of what interpreting is is you don't say
Speaker 4: the exact word or one to one, so you come
Speaker 4: up with like a couple words that describe.
Speaker 2: The meaning of that word, okay.
Speaker 4: And sometimes like for that word, I would probably like
Speaker 4: if I'm working with like adults or something, I would
Speaker 4: finger spell out the word ergonomic because a lot of
Speaker 4: deaf people are also bilingual, so they might want that
Speaker 4: word too. So it depends on who you're working with. Like,
Speaker 4: if you're working with like a little kid, I'm not
Speaker 4: going to finger spell out the word ergonomic because they're
Speaker 4: gonna be like, okay, a bunch of letters.
Speaker 3: They just want to know that. It's like comfortable, though, Yeah.
Speaker 2: What got you into sign language? Interpreting?
Speaker 3: Just like the language?
Speaker 4: And then I kind of just went into college and
Speaker 4: didn't quite know what I was wanting to do. So
Speaker 4: I was like, it seems cool. I like this language.
Speaker 4: There's a bunch of classes where I can learn the
Speaker 4: language and also learn this other skills.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, have you ever met a deaf person?
Speaker 2: I actually don't know if I've ever met Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 4: I'm sure there's plenty of sleepers out there.
Speaker 2: Plenty of sleepers, like like sleeper self.
Speaker 3: You just you don't know if they're deaf or not.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people out there.
Speaker 2: Are you deaf?
Speaker 1: No, I'm not deaf.
Speaker 4: You know you have talked to a deaf guy, the
Speaker 4: deaf motorcycle guy.
Speaker 2: Right, deft. Please tell me more about this, because I'm
Speaker 2: sure I remember it.
Speaker 4: I don't know. He he shouted out his instagram when
Speaker 4: you talked with him and you were like please don't die,
Speaker 4: and he's like okay. He was like he was like
Speaker 4: really crazy on his motorcycle.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, I like to show out, and he remember, Okay,
Speaker 2: maybe yeah, I remember motorcycle. I don't remember him being deaf.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean at least that's like what his like
Speaker 4: instagram is called. So I'm like, I I feel like
Speaker 4: I remember that, but maybe I'm maybe not.
Speaker 2: Can you be deaf and still use the phone.
Speaker 4: And use the phone? Yeah, like to make a phone call. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's uh, there's a service for that. It's called video
Speaker 4: relay services. So they have an interpreter who's sitting in
Speaker 4: like a like an office somewhere interpreting phone calls. So yeah,
Speaker 4: someone and people people be doing.
Speaker 1: Phone sex.
Speaker 2: People with the video with an interpreter too. So they're
Speaker 2: just they're I've heard about that. They're just motioning like
Speaker 2: the the like the okay, symbol with like the other
Speaker 2: fing and you're going in and out of the hole.
Speaker 3: Basically.
Speaker 4: No, No, it's probably just like actual dirty talk, just
Speaker 4: like what other what other people do, because they wouldn't
Speaker 4: do that because if they're talking with the hearing person
Speaker 4: doing that motion, like the interpreter would have to like
Speaker 4: describe that to the person they're on the phone list,
Speaker 4: So that would probably be more like a FaceTime.
Speaker 3: Call directly with the person.
Speaker 2: What's your name again?
Speaker 1: My name is uh, Toby, Toby.
Speaker 2: Toby, like your boy Tobey yep, spider Man two.
Speaker 3: My name is Toby, Toby.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: No, nothing else.
Speaker 2: Keep doing good work for America, Toby.
Speaker 3: America, for our country.
Speaker 2: That is what sign sign language an inherently American thing,
Speaker 2: American sign.
Speaker 4: Language, American sign languages. But there's tons of other sign
Speaker 4: languages all over there.
Speaker 2: Probably there's probably Paraguayan Sign language.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got it everywhere, They got their own languages.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Toby, I'll see you around man, all right,
Speaker 2: talk to you later, Lyle. Thank you, Toby. That was Toby.
Speaker 2: This Chinese Sign language CSL, what other what's another country, Venezuela.
Speaker 2: There's a Venezuelan sign language. That's probably a thing. Does
Speaker 2: every Is there a North Korean sign language? I'm gonna
Speaker 2: look that up up North Korean Korean sign language. Oh,
Speaker 2: that's the thing. There's a there. It's North Korean sign language.
Speaker 2: It's distinct from Korean sign language. What's the difference?
Speaker 3: WHOA?
Speaker 2: That's crazy, yo. If you know, if anyone here knows
Speaker 2: a North Korean sign language, let me know. I don't
Speaker 2: know why I'm asking you to let me know, but
Speaker 2: I just want to know if someone knows it. All right,
Speaker 2: I think that's the podcast. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: My name is lyle I mcgeko. I appreciate you listening
Speaker 2: to the show. We have a We have a new
Speaker 2: episode up on the Patreon today, if anyone wants to
Speaker 2: listen to it Patreon dot com, slash lyle forever.
Speaker 4: Ah.
Speaker 2: I forget what the episode's about, so I'm going to play.
Speaker 2: I'm going to play a little clip of a preview
Speaker 2: of the episode right here first, and then I'll talk
Speaker 2: more about it. So let's hear a preview of the
Speaker 2: bonus episode.
Speaker 4: I am kind of an author, so I can so
Speaker 4: basically everyone thinks it's really difficult. But all you gotta
Speaker 4: do is really read a book. And I wrote two
Speaker 4: books and so I published them because you can like
Speaker 4: self publish. And it's like it's pretty interesting because people
Speaker 4: like comp to you and they like think you're this magnificent, like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, you've written two books. But it's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I wrote them, you know, like, Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's a weird situation that I've found myself in.
Speaker 2: Well, I notice you texted me and you said you said, yo, GEK,
Speaker 2: how do you deal with online hate? Is that Is
Speaker 2: that something you experienced when publishing your books?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a little bit. It's so weird because, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, in today's day and age, you kind of
Speaker 4: got to you gotta play the social media game, you know.
Speaker 4: So I post quite a bit about it, and uh,
Speaker 4: it's just it's just random, like people just I don't know,
Speaker 4: I don't know. It's like I think it's I think
Speaker 4: it's the internet. You know, it just makes people a
Speaker 4: little more. They can say whatever they want, you know,
Speaker 4: and then they'll just comment rude things and it's like, okay,
Speaker 4: did you did you really think that or are you
Speaker 4: just like commenting that because you can. You know, it's
Speaker 4: really weird.
Speaker 2: That's the answer to the question of how do you
Speaker 2: deal with online Hey?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not. It's just you know, who fucking cares?
Speaker 2: Who fucking cares? You know what I mean? Like, just
Speaker 2: who fucking cares? There's so many like things going on
Speaker 2: on the planet.
Speaker 1: And like.
Speaker 2: For someone if someone someone like writing about that they
Speaker 2: don't like you on the internet, it's just it's just like,
Speaker 2: who fucking cares. It's so we're we're in such a
Speaker 2: like posts I was going on, I went on a
Speaker 2: rant about how like with furries, like like people aren't
Speaker 2: people don't I feel like I feel people. I feel
Speaker 2: like people don't make fun of furries as much anymore
Speaker 2: because we're in such a like crazy society that it's
Speaker 2: like shit, that's like shit like the millennial core era
Speaker 2: of like, oh that's cringe is like that stuff is
Speaker 2: like that's like nothing compared to like all the all
Speaker 2: the crazy cultural hostilities that exist around us and existential
Speaker 2: threats that we're all kind of like seeing. Now. It's like,
Speaker 2: you know, who gives a fuck about someone like dressing
Speaker 2: up in a costume anymore. Okay, that was a preview
Speaker 2: of this week's bonus episode on patrion dot com slash
Speaker 2: Lyle Forever. I think the link is also in the
Speaker 2: episode description. It's got a bunch of bonus episodes. So
Speaker 2: there's that one, there's the other ones. But this was
Speaker 2: a good This was a good podcast. I felt good
Speaker 2: about this. We talked to we talked to Rindy, we
Speaker 2: talked to the ketamine guy, we talked to Malaysian, the
Speaker 2: Malaysian man. It was a good episode. I felt good
Speaker 2: about this one. I think this was I think this
Speaker 2: is what we needed today. That's it. I don't have
Speaker 2: anything else to plug. So I'm a gecko. I'm Lyle.
Speaker 2: I'm here, I'm around. I'm around if anyone wants to
Speaker 2: say hi, or if ever anything else. Ghak bless you all.
Speaker 2: Have a good night. See you next time.
Speaker 1: Goes on the line, taking your phone calls every night,
Speaker 1: goes Hi's teaching you a loud
Speaker 2: He's not read an expert.