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Speaker 2: Our final news roundup and information overload. Hey everyone, welcome
Speaker 2: back to The Sean Hannity Show. This is Sarah Carter
Speaker 2: filling in for my good friend Sean Hannity, and I
Speaker 2: have another very good friend coming on the show. It's
Speaker 2: Lewis Elizondo. Lou Elizondo. As you know, many of you
Speaker 2: may have seen him. He has testified before Congress on
Speaker 2: the unidentified aerial phenomena that is happening over our skies
Speaker 2: and the history of that happening over our skies going
Speaker 2: all the way back to the nineteen forties and before.
Speaker 1: Folks, this is a big deal.
Speaker 2: He was head of the Pentagon's A tip program, and
Speaker 2: he is an integral part of the disclosure process that
Speaker 2: is happening in the United States. That means talking about
Speaker 2: what is happening in our skies and not feeling ashamed
Speaker 2: to talk about things we do not understand, but instead
Speaker 2: studying them an investigating them, not poo pooing them. Right
Speaker 2: like we've seen in the news in the past. We
Speaker 2: have an issue though happening. Of course, everybody's been watching
Speaker 2: the news. Hundreds of drones, thousands actually swarming over you know,
Speaker 2: New Jersey. We've seen them coming off of the coast.
Speaker 2: People have seen them.
Speaker 1: All over Jersey.
Speaker 2: I was concerned even flying into LaGuardia because I was like,
Speaker 2: what is going on here? And I know the President
Speaker 2: was concerned about this as well. We have a couple
Speaker 2: of clips we want to play for you. I want
Speaker 2: to go to cut five. First, if we could go ahead,
Speaker 2: Ethan and play that, Thanks Jena Rider.
Speaker 7: So back to the drones. Can you I don't equivocally
Speaker 7: say that none of the drones that are being spotted
Speaker 7: are DoD assets or something that's being tested within the
Speaker 7: Defense Department. Are all of these either civilian or otherwise,
Speaker 7: but just not Department of Defense drums talking.
Speaker 6: About the drones in New Jersey up and down the Yes,
Speaker 6: they are not dood assets.
Speaker 3: One of them are.
Speaker 6: To my knowledge, none of them are.
Speaker 7: Okay, And are there any sort of experimental programs going
Speaker 7: on or maybe you know, drunes are being tested it.
Speaker 6: To my knowledge? Note, Okay, is it possible that some
Speaker 6: of those drones could be up to malign activity. It's
Speaker 6: entirely possible, but the vast majority that is not, you
Speaker 6: know the case, and in the case of drones flying
Speaker 6: near over US military installations, that in and of itself,
Speaker 6: just given the volume of drone flights we see on
Speaker 6: a given day, is not something that's new. We take
Speaker 6: all of those seriously.
Speaker 2: You know, this is very serious. We don't know what
Speaker 2: is in our skies. We know that we have people
Speaker 2: that are investigating this. We want our pilots our military
Speaker 2: and our senior officials to feel comfortable reporting this. And
Speaker 2: I got to tell you, I was so disappointed when
Speaker 2: I heard John Kirby about this and trying to gaslight
Speaker 2: the American public and other people in the Pentagon as well,
Speaker 2: trying to gaslight the American public. Thank god we have
Speaker 2: this General Pat Rder talking about this. But I'm very concerned.
Speaker 1: We do not know.
Speaker 2: We do not know what is going on because our
Speaker 2: government is keeping us in the dark. And President Trump
Speaker 2: made that very very clear. Lou, thank you so much
Speaker 2: for being on the show, my friend. It's great to
Speaker 2: have you here.
Speaker 3: Sarah. It is always my honor and privilege to be
Speaker 3: with you in your wonderful audience.
Speaker 1: Matt, I got to tell you, Lou, you're the expert.
Speaker 2: You're the expert. You were head of the A Tip program.
Speaker 2: You probably know more than you can divulge. You testified
Speaker 2: before Congress. Tell me what your assessment is on these UAPs.
Speaker 3: Well, Look, the drone issue is real and it's serious.
Speaker 3: And despite even the state of New Jersey imposing a
Speaker 3: moratorium in all drone flights until about mid January, as
Speaker 3: of this morning, there's still drones that are flying around
Speaker 3: the White House's assertion that all these are legal aircraft,
Speaker 3: either hobbyists or you know, commercial aircraft or privately owned aircraft,
Speaker 3: and even law enforcement aircraft. It just doesn't hold water.
Speaker 3: And the problem is is that it's really eroding any
Speaker 3: faith and confidence we have in our administration. And this
Speaker 3: is a problem because they've already said, for the record, Sarah,
Speaker 3: that these are not foreign adversarial technologies. They've also said
Speaker 3: that these are not our technologies. Well, then if it's
Speaker 3: not avissarion is not ours, who's is it? And simply
Speaker 3: to say that these are you know, private people that
Speaker 3: are legally operating their drones. You don't shut down military
Speaker 3: bases because people are flying their drones legally. You shut
Speaker 3: them down because they're being flown illegally.
Speaker 2: Right, let's talk about right Patterson. Right, there was an
Speaker 2: issue there and they came clean. They said, yeah, we've
Speaker 2: had these, you know, incidences where these drones have been
Speaker 2: flying over. We've seen it in other bases. And lou
Speaker 2: you talk about five observables. I've read your book, love
Speaker 2: your book, and I you know, I pay a lot
Speaker 2: of attention to what you say. But there are five
Speaker 2: observables that the Pentagon looks for when it comes to UAPs,
Speaker 2: when they are not either ours nor our enemies, and
Speaker 2: when these technologies appear to be far beyond what we
Speaker 2: have capabilities of.
Speaker 3: That's correct, and that was a result of our scientists
Speaker 3: looking into this and realizing that there are five distinct
Speaker 3: performance capabilities for signatures, if you will, that make UAP
Speaker 3: stand far and above beyond anything we have, and that
Speaker 3: is the five observables are instantaneous acceleration, hypersonic velocities, low observability,
Speaker 3: trans medium travel, and in the vernacular, anti gravity. And
Speaker 3: believe it or not, Sarah, some of these UAP have
Speaker 3: been described initially as as at least having some of
Speaker 3: those characteristics. Some eyewitnesses report these drones coming out of
Speaker 3: the water. Some of them report these drones when being
Speaker 3: approached by another drone, is literally just disappearing into thin
Speaker 3: air and maybe even having some sort of counter drone
Speaker 3: measure on board, because at least on one or two occasions,
Speaker 3: it appears that whatever these drones are are disabling other
Speaker 3: people that are trying to fly a drone and get
Speaker 3: a good picture of it, and in the words of
Speaker 3: one source, literally disappearing into thin air. So I think
Speaker 3: with creating so much problem here is that the administration
Speaker 3: isn't being open and honest with the American people. And thankfully,
Speaker 3: I think the new administration gets it and realizes that
Speaker 3: the American people deserve the truth. You know, I've always
Speaker 3: said we can handle the truth, and I think the
Speaker 3: American people deserve the truth.
Speaker 2: I think they absolutely do deserve the truth. And I
Speaker 2: love what you said to John Kirby. It's like, I mean,
Speaker 2: how can you sit there and you posted this on
Speaker 2: your X How can you sit there and say what
Speaker 2: you're saying. Why not just come clean with the American
Speaker 2: people and let them know unless there's something that we're
Speaker 2: not the government's trying to protect us from. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've seen all the reports that these could be snippers,
Speaker 2: that we've got drones out there that might be looking
Speaker 2: for something, God help us, radioactive or something more that
Speaker 2: the possibility that we may have are US drones, although
Speaker 2: right now the generals saying that there aren't any US
Speaker 2: military drones, that they're monitoring foreign drones in the sky,
Speaker 2: or as you know, we have reported in the past,
Speaker 2: and Lou you've talked about so I mean, look, if
Speaker 2: there was anybody in the world out there, guys that
Speaker 2: has made it easier for people to report what is
Speaker 2: happening in our skies.
Speaker 1: It's lou Elizondo.
Speaker 2: I mean, you were the one that testified before Congress
Speaker 2: along with other whistleblowers about what the Pentagon was hiding
Speaker 2: from the American people and from the world for that matter.
Speaker 3: I appreciate the accolades, but truth be told, I don't
Speaker 3: deserve all that credit there was. It's always been a
Speaker 3: team effort. There's a lot of people behind the shadows.
Speaker 3: And I got to tell you, Sarah, you know you've
Speaker 3: been championing this cause too, and ultimately it's about transparency
Speaker 3: and honesty with the American people that at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, you know whether these drones are Chinese
Speaker 3: or Russian or ours or anything else, just level with
Speaker 3: the American people. Look, Americans are more sophisticated than I
Speaker 3: think our government gives credit. And you know the reason
Speaker 3: why we are at an all time low of distrust
Speaker 3: of our government is because of this this type of
Speaker 3: action of constantly lying and saying for things like, well,
Speaker 3: the Afghanistan withdrawal was successful, No, it wasn't. You have
Speaker 3: pictures of human beings clinging onto the skin of a
Speaker 3: C seventeen that are going to be falling to their deaths.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a success. And unfortunately this administration wherein now
Speaker 3: has a bad track record of leveling with the American people.
Speaker 3: I am extremely optimistic that this this new administration. There's
Speaker 3: some key people there that feel very strongly about being
Speaker 3: open and transparent with the American people and won't say
Speaker 3: who they are, but they are in key positions, and
Speaker 3: I think the administration is signaling correctly that it's about
Speaker 3: time that we become more open and honest with the
Speaker 3: American people, particularly about a topic that involves national security,
Speaker 3: whether it's drones or UAP or a combination of either,
Speaker 3: or you.
Speaker 2: Know, I was thinking about that while you were talking
Speaker 2: and about remember when the balloons were coming across the
Speaker 2: United States and we eventually they had to admit that
Speaker 2: these were Chinese and that they were probably measuring, you know,
Speaker 2: they were penetrating our ground using ground penetrating radar.
Speaker 1: What was going on.
Speaker 2: It was EPP in Montana, and you know Montana, Wyoming,
Speaker 2: that's where all our ICBMs are. It was actually up
Speaker 2: there for Sean Hannity doing a story on the Chinese
Speaker 2: basically putting in technology into our verizon towers in an
Speaker 2: area that is highly sensitive. And now you see these
Speaker 2: drones going over our US military bases.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of concern.
Speaker 2: And just today Lou the same general and Pentagon spokesman
Speaker 2: Pat Ryder said that there are actually more troops than
Speaker 2: what was being reported in Syria. It's like nobody knows
Speaker 2: what the right hand doesn't know what the left hand
Speaker 2: is doing. That literally, there are two thousand US troops
Speaker 2: in Syria. I think we reported there was somewhere around
Speaker 2: seven hundred, and now it's double that and I have
Speaker 2: the thank you Linda, Linda brought it to me right now, Biden.
Speaker 2: Pentagon spokesman Pat Ryder says he recently learned they're actually
Speaker 2: two thousand plus US troops deployed in Syria, far more
Speaker 2: than the nine hundred they had previously announced. You're a
Speaker 2: military man. There's always reasons for things. But do you
Speaker 2: feel like we're living in a time where the right
Speaker 2: hand doesn't know what the left is doing.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's clear that is the case. We
Speaker 3: have this almost schizophrenic approach to public relations. Coming out
Speaker 3: of the National Security Council and the White House and
Speaker 3: even the Pentagon, and it's frankly, it's embarrassing in any
Speaker 3: of our foreign adversaries, our allies.
Speaker 2: Right, well, take a listen to this. This is the
Speaker 2: actual audio. We've got that too, and then you respond
Speaker 2: to it takes.
Speaker 6: I know we have been briefing you regularly that there
Speaker 6: are approximately nine hundred US troops deployed to Syria. In
Speaker 6: light of the situation in Syria and the significant interest,
Speaker 6: we recently learned that those numbers we're higher, and so
Speaker 6: asked to look into it. I learned today that, in fact,
Speaker 6: there are approximately two thousand US troops in Syria. As
Speaker 6: I understand it, and as it was explained to me,
Speaker 6: these additional forces are considered temporary rotational forces that deploy
Speaker 6: to meet shifting mission requirements, whereas the core nine hundred
Speaker 6: deployers are on longer term deployments. And as you know,
Speaker 6: for many of our deployments, numbers will fluctuate from time
Speaker 6: to time. But given that this number is significantly higher
Speaker 6: than what we've been briefing, I wanted to let you know.
Speaker 6: As soon as I found out this information.
Speaker 2: It's like Okay, let's come clean now that we're leaving
Speaker 2: office and we don't Yeah, we'll let everybody know the
Speaker 2: truth about what's going on. I mean, I feel like
Speaker 2: that's happening everywhere loo.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Correct, It's basically, once we got caught with our
Speaker 3: hanes in the cookie jar, then we'll decide to come clean.
Speaker 3: And you know, oh, by the way, you're right, we've
Speaker 3: been putting out inaccurate information and I think that is
Speaker 3: again part of the problem that we're seeing is that
Speaker 3: the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.
Speaker 3: And more importantly, you know, when you start doing these
Speaker 3: semantics between deployed and temporarily depoloid and rotational troops, look
Speaker 3: to that troop on the ground. It doesn't matter. You
Speaker 3: can ask your hero husband who actually served as well.
Speaker 3: You know, for those troops on the ground, they're on
Speaker 3: the ground, and you know, for the administration to say, oh, well,
Speaker 3: because they're rotational, we really didn't count them, that's a
Speaker 3: bunch of whoy And that's a disservice to our men
Speaker 3: and women in uniform who are actually serving because, let
Speaker 3: me tell you, in combat, there's no distinction. You know,
Speaker 3: you're all in combat you're in combat and the multives
Speaker 3: are flying, So these folks are in danger. They're over
Speaker 3: there in Syria, and these underestimations are unfortunately more routine
Speaker 3: than most people realize. They're doing the same thing with
Speaker 3: the drowns. It's the same exact thing. They're doing it
Speaker 3: with just about every other topic right now. And I suspect,
Speaker 3: I don't know for sure, but I suspect that this
Speaker 3: administration is probably checked out at this point. They've got
Speaker 3: a lot on their plate. They got to deal with.
Speaker 4: The new allegations that maybe there are some people that
Speaker 4: knew that the press and it had some some some
Speaker 4: of his mental faculty compromise early on is now finally
Speaker 4: coming to light, and that some decisions remained that you know,
Speaker 4: maybe some staffers were in positions that, you know, maybe
Speaker 4: they shouldn't have been, and we're making decisions that they
Speaker 4: didn't have the authority.
Speaker 5: To make one percent.
Speaker 1: I've always said, who's really running that White House? Right?
Speaker 1: I mean, is it Obama through staffers? Is it?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 1: Is it Michelle?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: I mean, it was certainly it was certainly a problem,
Speaker 2: and they were trying to keep that from the public,
Speaker 2: and it was a run a muck.
Speaker 1: It was It was an administration. An administration, run a muk.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm going to be letting you go in a
Speaker 2: few minutes, but I want everyone to hear this is
Speaker 2: your book, Inside Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs Eminent.
Speaker 2: You gave people a lot of courage Loo, you and
Speaker 2: Christopher Mellon among others, but you in particular to speak
Speaker 2: out and speak up and tell the truth. The American
Speaker 2: people can handle it. We can handle it right, and
Speaker 2: people should continue to speak out and tell the truth
Speaker 2: about what they see in our skies.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Sarah, thank you for your courage, for always being
Speaker 3: one of the first to report this. You and a
Speaker 3: few others were really the first journalist to decide to
Speaker 3: cover this topic. And you know what, history is going
Speaker 3: to prove you're right, so you know.
Speaker 2: Hey, thank you so much. I was reporting on it
Speaker 2: back in twenty ten. And I'll see you again, my
Speaker 2: friend back on the show. Thank you so much for
Speaker 2: being with us today. Folks will be back in a moment.
Speaker 2: This is Sarah Carter for the Sean Hannity Show. Hey, everyone,
Speaker 2: welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. This is Sarah Carter,
Speaker 2: in for Sean Handity on this beautiful evening. I hope
Speaker 2: you're all enjoying yourselves and getting everything you need for Christmas.
Speaker 2: By the way, there is a strike at Amazon. I
Speaker 2: am very concerned about. That's why I'm bringing on an
Speaker 2: expert at our last segment, Anthony Esposito, to talk to us.
Speaker 1: What's going to happen? Are we going to get our packages?
Speaker 1: What is going on?
Speaker 2: And why is all the breaking news happening today? Right
Speaker 2: It's happening like right now, I'm just learning how to
Speaker 2: do this radio show. This is crazy, and I'm we
Speaker 2: got breaking news all over the place. By the way,
Speaker 2: one is which the cr the Continuing Resolution, which went
Speaker 2: from over one thy, five hundred and forty seven pages
Speaker 2: down to one hundred and sixteen. It was sixteen Linda,
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixteen Linda. Did we do we know
Speaker 2: what pork was left in that bill? Yet we don't
Speaker 2: because we got it about twenty five minutes ago and
Speaker 2: they're voting at six o'clock. So yet again, see the
Speaker 2: insanity of this, folks, the insanity that we don't even
Speaker 2: have a chance. But thank god, it's I mean, it's
Speaker 2: been reduced, but we still don't know what's in it.
Speaker 2: We still don't understand what's going on. And this is
Speaker 2: the reason why we have people like you know, Congressmanship
Speaker 2: Roy fighting it. We've got Senators like Mike Lee screaming
Speaker 2: mad about it. Elon Musk vivek Raamswami. I mean, we're
Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna update you. I'm sure on this. We're
Speaker 2: gonna find out what is going on in that CR.
Speaker 2: I'm grateful it wasn't the one thousand, five hundred and
Speaker 2: forty seven.
Speaker 1: But we will be right back.
Speaker 2: With Anthony Esposito, CEO of Island Capital Investments, to talk
Speaker 2: about Amazon, Will you get your Christmas Presents?
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Speaker 2: This is the Sean Hannity Show. All right, everyone, Hey,
Speaker 2: welcome to the Sean Hannity Show. This is Sarah Carter
Speaker 2: filling in for my good friend Sean Hannity. Remember to
Speaker 2: follow me on x at Sarah Carter DC, folks. Hakim
Speaker 2: Jeffries just came in the House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries.
Speaker 2: He said, no Democrat's gonna vote for this CR bill.
Speaker 2: So what happens next? I guess well, we're gonna have
Speaker 2: to wait till six pm to find out, find out
Speaker 2: if they're gonna vote for it or if they're gonna
Speaker 2: cave in and they're gonna do what. I don't even
Speaker 2: know what the Republicans say should be done some of
Speaker 2: these Republicans, not all Republicans. I say, we need more time.
Speaker 2: We need to look at this bill. We need to
Speaker 2: find out what's going on. We can't just cave in
Speaker 2: whenever you know, somebody screams on Capitol Hill. But guess what,
Speaker 2: right now, Amazon workers across seven facilities and this is
Speaker 2: just the worst time. But this is what unions do.
Speaker 2: They like to do what the lawmakers are doing right now.
Speaker 2: They wait for Christmas and try to ruin it for
Speaker 2: everybody to try to get their way.
Speaker 1: These are babies.
Speaker 2: These are legislative bullies and Amazon bullies. Right in New York, Georgia, California, Illinois.
Speaker 2: They go on strike, they go on strike, these team stirs,
Speaker 2: and they want to shut down Christmas. They are the
Speaker 2: grinches that want to steal Christmas so that they can
Speaker 2: get more money. That's all they care about. That's what
Speaker 2: they're caring about right now. It's not about Christmas, not
Speaker 2: about you. But I'm gonna find out if this is
Speaker 2: really going to happen. Are we really not going to
Speaker 2: get our Christmas presents on time? My daughter will flip
Speaker 2: and that's okay. It's first world problems. I've got Anthony
Speaker 2: Esposito on. He's CEO of Island Investment Capital Investments LC
Speaker 2: and host of Policy and Profits. I love this podcast.
Speaker 2: It's a podcast on our economy and on our government,
Speaker 2: and it helps me learn what I don't know about
Speaker 2: the stock market. He joins us now to discuss the
Speaker 2: Amazon strike. Hey, Anthony's so nice.
Speaker 1: To have you on.
Speaker 5: Hey, Sarah, thank you so much for having me. How
Speaker 5: are you.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's great.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad I could get you because this is
Speaker 2: breaking news. Of course, today is just breaking news all
Speaker 2: over the place. It's like I'm being tested feet to
Speaker 2: the fire right and now with the Amazon strike, can
Speaker 2: you explain exactly what's going on?
Speaker 1: Do you know what's happening here?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Sure, I think. I think honestly, it's being blown out
Speaker 5: of proportion by the teamsters and by the Amazon employees
Speaker 5: that are on strike. It's ten thousand employees out of
Speaker 5: an employee base of one point five million people. And
Speaker 5: it's Amazon. So you have the most sophisticated logistics system
Speaker 5: in place in the world within Amazon, and you have
Speaker 5: ten thousand employees who, by the way, some of which
Speaker 5: you don't even work for Amazon. They're trying to strike
Speaker 5: against Amazon because they want to become employees of Amazon
Speaker 5: directly and then stay on strike to get a better deal.
Speaker 5: So those are the drivers that work for a third
Speaker 5: part it's delivery service partners. I was reading up on
Speaker 5: it earlier. They don't even work for Amazon there on strike.
Speaker 5: And then you have employees on strike, for example at
Speaker 5: the Sutton Island facility that Amazon is challenging the constitutionality
Speaker 5: of them actually becoming part of the union of the Teamsters.
Speaker 5: So there are legal battles in the background, and then
Speaker 5: there's some really illogical kind of pieces of the puzzle
Speaker 5: to fit together. And then around it you have ten
Speaker 5: thousand employees who are basically, you know, crying foul. They
Speaker 5: want more money, they want better break time, they want
Speaker 5: what they're calling safer environment to work. And at the
Speaker 5: end of the day, honestly, Amazon, this is not even
Speaker 5: a ripple for them. They're They're going to handle this fine.
Speaker 5: Every all the packages are going to run through. This
Speaker 5: is not This is probably pretty akin to what they
Speaker 5: deal with on a day to day basis, between weather,
Speaker 5: between disruptions on roadways, between airline disruptions. I don't think
Speaker 5: it's a big deal. I would say as far as
Speaker 5: the timing it is certainly the timing of it is
Speaker 5: to kind of strike everyone right, Like it's right. Everyone's
Speaker 5: struggling to make ends meet, everyone's forcing a little extra
Speaker 5: trying to grab a little extra work, trying to grab
Speaker 5: a little extra cash, trying to extend their credit a
Speaker 5: little further, just to make Christmas nice. And they want
Speaker 5: people to see the headline and say, oh, Amazon is
Speaker 5: the worst and Amazon is the devil in corporate America
Speaker 5: needs to fall in all the things. So the timing
Speaker 5: of it's great, But will it really make a difference.
Speaker 5: I don't think anyone's going to even realize it.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's great news, especially for all of
Speaker 2: us parents out there who ordered presidents on Amazon.
Speaker 1: That is great news.
Speaker 2: And you know, Amazon had said that they were doing
Speaker 2: this for a year long campaign to intentionally mislead the public.
Speaker 2: I mean, the teamsters have been working on this and
Speaker 2: then they strike. When you know, Christmas is hot, right,
Speaker 2: and then they want and they want everybody to go
Speaker 2: into a panic. But a lot of people, Anthony, have
Speaker 2: been worried about the economy anyways. I mean everyone's word,
Speaker 2: you know, with the stock market back and forth, with
Speaker 2: you know, trying to make ends meet. Talk a little
Speaker 2: bit about that, I mean, because I think this is important.
Speaker 2: You know a lot of families out there, you know,
Speaker 2: are spending money on their credit cards, money that they
Speaker 2: don't have.
Speaker 1: They got to pay that back. What are you seeing
Speaker 1: as far as that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, well to start right there, that the
Speaker 5: economy is not in great shape. And I do believe that.
Speaker 5: I mean I am very very bullish on President Trump
Speaker 5: and his policies and h his administration coming in. But
Speaker 5: we're hurting. I mean, we're literally limping across the finish
Speaker 5: line from the Biden administration. And even as early as
Speaker 5: yesterday you had Powell come out and cut rates again
Speaker 5: at the said, which is creating more of a problem.
Speaker 5: It seems like there's more hand grenades getting tossed over
Speaker 5: at President Trump missing a pin than not as he
Speaker 5: steps into his second term.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so exactly what are they trying to do there? Like,
Speaker 2: what are they trying to do there at the Fed?
Speaker 5: Well, the biggest problem we have, and I would lump
Speaker 5: I would lump mister Powell and Janet Yellen together. We
Speaker 5: have the Seed who's cutting rates, which is essentially not
Speaker 5: doing anything because the market itself is raising rates, Meaning
Speaker 5: the Feed is trying to say they're going to reduce
Speaker 5: the bar and costs, reduced rates and make money looser
Speaker 5: as inflation is actually starting to tick back up. That
Speaker 5: makes zero sense. And then you have Janet Yellen, who
Speaker 5: has personally over overseen sixteen trillion dollars in debt creation
Speaker 5: our tenure in non elected public office. To put that
Speaker 5: in perspective, our entire debt is thirty six trillion dollars,
Speaker 5: so she's overseen close to half of our debt creation,
Speaker 5: and on her way out yesterday said, hey, I think
Speaker 5: we really have a problem and we're probably going to
Speaker 5: have a massive issue if we don't reduce debt.
Speaker 3: So what is it?
Speaker 1: Cya?
Speaker 2: It's like, I feel like everything in the Biden administration
Speaker 2: is kind of cya. Admit it on your way out
Speaker 2: the door. It was with the Obama administration did too.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like, oh, by the way, we don't
Speaker 2: have nine hundred troops in Syria, We've got two thousand.
Speaker 2: And Hey, guess what, we have this huge deficit in
Speaker 2: this debt. Now, you guys got to take care of it.
Speaker 5: What's going on? It is c ya. They have made
Speaker 5: a mess of what's going on, a mess of the system.
Speaker 5: Top down policy has been horrendous. And the big kicker
Speaker 5: is no one expected President Trump to win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I mean, that really is the big kicker.
Speaker 2: How do you think Trump's win is going to, you know,
Speaker 2: affect the economy?
Speaker 1: You said, you're very bullish on it. You have big hopes.
Speaker 1: I do. Two, what do you see in the future
Speaker 1: under President Trump? I mean, deregulation is going to be
Speaker 1: a big deal.
Speaker 2: I think small businesses are going to benefit greatly from
Speaker 2: a Trump presidency.
Speaker 1: What are you seeing?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think So to start with, what's really an
Speaker 5: issue here? It's inflation, and it's a massive debt and
Speaker 5: deficit situation that we've created in the country. And that
Speaker 5: inflation and that and poor real GDP growth and real
Speaker 5: employment has pushed people into a place where they can't
Speaker 5: afford to live. So consumer credit is a real issue.
Speaker 5: Inflation is a real issue. These are going to be
Speaker 5: things that we need to deal with. Employment, real jobs growth,
Speaker 5: not government jobs, because if you look at the jobs
Speaker 5: and the jobs creation, you know upwards of ninety percent
Speaker 5: of those jobs created each month that are being reported
Speaker 5: our government jobs, healthcare and education and low paying services jobs.
Speaker 5: That is not how we build an economy. So we
Speaker 5: need employment to increase, inflation to come down, we need
Speaker 5: people's credit or the amount of credits people are caring
Speaker 5: to come down. We need rates on that credit to convey.
Speaker 5: We need all these things to kind of work together.
Speaker 5: So the positive is the sentiment numbers are definitely popping.
Speaker 5: Even as far as small businesses. The NFIB Small Business
Speaker 5: Survey had sentiment at a under with it below the
Speaker 5: fifty year moving average for the entire presidency of Joe
Speaker 5: Biden at Trumps and upon Trump's win, we spiked back
Speaker 5: above one hundred, which is a three and a half
Speaker 5: year high in optimism for the small businesses. So that's
Speaker 5: a good thing. And you see the same thing in
Speaker 5: in consumer sentiments, so that's good. I think Vesince three
Speaker 5: three three plan is important. I think it leverages the
Speaker 5: balance sheet of the United States, and it also leverages
Speaker 5: our natural resources to try and a reduced deficit and debt,
Speaker 5: which will bring down inflation and be create real growth
Speaker 5: in the economy. So what that plan says, pretty simply put,
Speaker 5: is the goal is to grow GDP by three percent,
Speaker 5: and a real three percent, not an inflated three percent,
Speaker 5: which is what we've seen under Biden, which is why
Speaker 5: we're being told things are good, but we don't feel
Speaker 5: like things are good. We wit the kitchen table and struggle,
Speaker 5: but the headlines and Biden is like, Hey, we're se
Speaker 5: best economy in the world. Everyone's envious of us. No, no,
Speaker 5: they're not. Everyone's hurting, and we're hurting worse than everyone else.
Speaker 5: You're just kind of doing a good job with the
Speaker 5: smoke and mirrors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, the whole world is hurting.
Speaker 2: There's a global there was. Certainly under Biden, the world
Speaker 2: felt that. I mean it was a shock to our system.
Speaker 2: With the economy we're seeing, we're seeing some changes, I
Speaker 2: mean significant changes across the globe. With the election of
Speaker 2: Javier Malay, we see the economy, you know, in Argentina
Speaker 2: doing a lot better. We're seeing it in El Salvador.
Speaker 2: Under naibukeyle really quickly. What can we do? What can people,
Speaker 2: I guess within the Trump administration in particular, do look.
Speaker 1: At Elon musk I vek Ramaswami.
Speaker 2: I mean Doge coming in do to really pump our
Speaker 2: economy up and give us that Trump bump that everybody's
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 5: Look, I think it's growing gdpaid at a three percent
Speaker 5: level in real terms. I think Doze is a very
Speaker 5: important part of reducing the desol So the second part
Speaker 5: of the plan is to reduce the deficit to three
Speaker 5: percent of GDP by twenty twenty eight. The best way
Speaker 5: to do that is to start cutting fat and trimming fat.
Speaker 5: And there is a ton of it. I don't care
Speaker 5: what the dem say, I don't care what the left
Speaker 5: talking points are. There's a ton of fat, and we
Speaker 5: can reduce costs.
Speaker 1: Okay, talk about that fat.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that's where can we reduce the fat?
Speaker 1: Right here? When it comes to the economy.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you an item that's near and dear to
Speaker 5: my heart, and I think it's one of the first
Speaker 5: things that needs to get done. Mister Holman has to
Speaker 5: shut down the border. We're spending hundreds of billions of
Speaker 5: dollars on illegal aliens coming across our border. If we
Speaker 5: can save hundreds of billions of dollars there, we're starting
Speaker 5: to dig into a one point eight trillion dollar deficit.
Speaker 5: It matters. I mean, these things matter. That's the first
Speaker 5: place when we start looking at the spending bills and
Speaker 5: how much money. Look at the Inflation Reduction Act, which
Speaker 5: was anything but it was climate legislation. It added almost
Speaker 5: a trillion dollars to our.
Speaker 2: Deficit for what well, absolutely, And you brought in a
Speaker 2: subject that's dear to my heart too, and that is,
Speaker 2: of course, our US Mexico border and the hundreds of
Speaker 2: billions of dollars that have been allocated US taxpayer dollars
Speaker 2: that have gone to nonprofits and other organizations just to
Speaker 2: assist the federal government, the Biden administration with their open
Speaker 2: border policy. It was like we were taking our money
Speaker 2: and feeding it back into the beast and creating a
Speaker 2: problem not only for the world, but for us in
Speaker 2: particular the American people. It's been a four year mess
Speaker 2: at the border.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and it's costing us. Not only is it costing
Speaker 5: us money directly in direct payments, we're paying for healthcare
Speaker 5: we're paying for housing, we're paying for schooling, and we're
Speaker 5: giving direct payments to the illegals coming across.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't even understand how this is. Okay, do you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: Like there was something wrong when I go and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I was in Chicago. I was there with our Border
Speaker 2: nine one one foundation and I was giving a speech.
Speaker 2: I was there with Rodney Scott, and this gentleman stood
Speaker 2: up Anthony and he was in the audience and he
Speaker 2: had his daughter in his hands, and he said, you
Speaker 2: know what, I'm from South Chicago.
Speaker 1: I lost my job months ago.
Speaker 2: I have been looking for a job, but I ended
Speaker 2: up losing my apartment, losing my job. My wife and
Speaker 2: I and my daughter been living for the last few
Speaker 2: weeks in a vehicle, in a car. That's how I've
Speaker 2: been sending my daughter to school, cleaning her up at
Speaker 2: a local restaurant, sending her to school until I can
Speaker 2: find another place to live.
Speaker 1: And I've got.
Speaker 2: Illegal immigrants, illegal aliens getting you know, debit cards and
Speaker 2: apartments and housing, and I mean, the American people are
Speaker 2: fed up with this. And I really think this is
Speaker 2: the reason why we saw such a successful election with
Speaker 2: President Trump overwhelming because Americans are like, we're done.
Speaker 5: There's no doubt, there's no debt to cost. It's not
Speaker 5: it's not a dollar cost. It's the dollar. And then
Speaker 5: it's multiple derivatives right of that dollar, whether it's the
Speaker 5: direct payment, whether it's paying for hotel rooms for these
Speaker 5: illegals to stay, or housing where otherwise American citizens could
Speaker 5: be or I'll give you a great example of a
Speaker 5: cost natural born citizens. Native born Americans employment levels today
Speaker 5: are lower. We've actually seen negative employment. Wow, for native
Speaker 5: born Americans. We are below pre COVID levels right now.
Speaker 1: That is unbelievable. That's heart read, that's s gott wrenching.
Speaker 2: I'm going to you know, we put our hearts out
Speaker 2: pray for all the people out there this holiday season
Speaker 2: and Christmas season who are suffering and you don't have jobs.
Speaker 2: We'll be thinking about you. Anthony so much. Thank you
Speaker 2: for coming on this show. Anthony Esposito Folks, CEO of
Speaker 2: Island Capital Investments and hosts of Policy and Profits podcast.
Speaker 1: Listen to the show, guys.
Speaker 2: If you want to know what is going on with
Speaker 2: your pocketbook and the American dollar. You do not want
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