WEBVTT - Any Levy & Sen. Tammy Baldwin

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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<v Speaker 1>where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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<v Speaker 1>today's best minds, and a new report from CIVICUS downgraded

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<v Speaker 1>US freedom to obstruct it whatever that means. We have

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<v Speaker 1>such a great show for you today as the world churns.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy Leeby stops by to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>About impeaching RFK Junior, and then we'll talk to Senator

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy Baldwin about the upcoming battle to keep your insurance affordable.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll say, but first we have the news.

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<v Speaker 3>Molly, their back. The Heritage Foundation now has a Project

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty six. It's not looking good.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So Heritage Foundation got everything it fucking wanted with

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<v Speaker 1>Project twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>So now, like the greedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Little children they are, they have a Project twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six policy vision. Part of this is because Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>does not have any policy, right, he has no policy.

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<v Speaker 1>His policy is make money and turn paint things yellow.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the Heritage Foundation has decided they have some

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<v Speaker 1>policies that they would like to enact. Some of them

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<v Speaker 1>are pretty obvious. Some of them are stuff Trump would

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<v Speaker 1>not get involved in. Maybe, so Number one, resisting the

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<v Speaker 1>communist Party, the Chinese Communist Party. These people are probably

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be happy because Donald Trump just said

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to sell Navidia chips to China.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is like the funniest one to be if

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<v Speaker 3>a big hoddest as. I was reading this earlier because

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<v Speaker 3>this is basically like saying like, could we just get

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<v Speaker 3>Trump to stop being trump pud trade?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. So well, I mean he's in a trade war

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<v Speaker 2>with them, so.

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<v Speaker 4>That's something basic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but the problem is he's busy in riching himself

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<v Speaker 3>and contradicting it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is true.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so he has resisting the Communist Chinese Party. That's

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<v Speaker 1>never gonna happen, and he shouldn't have sold them Navidio

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<v Speaker 1>immigration restrictions, I'm I mean, for who, nobody's coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, but okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my favorite is election refinements. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>that means, right, oppression? Yeah, my man is going to

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<v Speaker 1>refine the elections so that he doesn't lose them.

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<v Speaker 3>But the detail in here is interesting that they're really

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<v Speaker 3>not into rank choice voting, and some of that makes

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<v Speaker 3>me think they saw the TikTok jahatas or on and

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<v Speaker 3>they're getting real scared.

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<v Speaker 1>Rank choice voting. They don't like anything, Okay, reality check.

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<v Speaker 1>Rank choice voting, now used in both deep bread and

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<v Speaker 1>deep blue jurisdictions, has increased in popularity. Research shows the

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<v Speaker 1>party neutral system can increase voter turnout and improve representation

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<v Speaker 1>for women and people of color. Ara Ago, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want it.

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<v Speaker 3>This is sending real pro democracy to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Elimination of the Department of Education. Let me tell you

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<v Speaker 1>a secret here. Team of course they want to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of that, and there's a reason for that, because

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<v Speaker 1>of course they do. So they want to dismantle the

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<v Speaker 1>Department Education. Trump is already trying to do that. He

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<v Speaker 1>put Linda McMahon, everyone's favorite wrestling princess in there. So

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<v Speaker 1>not surprising. I don't know how they would do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know how they could do that

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<v Speaker 1>more than they're doing it already. Fighting big tech. This

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<v Speaker 1>is one of my favorite of these ideas.

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<v Speaker 4>Because this one's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is really funny. Let's talk about it. Big

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<v Speaker 1>tech has interfered with our elections. Okay, yeah, but they

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<v Speaker 1>have four Republicans, so whoa so I to groom and

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<v Speaker 1>brainwash our children with perverted left wing ideologies?

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<v Speaker 2>FYI, Big tech is how our.

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<v Speaker 1>Children got to think that, Like Joe Rogan and Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk were the you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah YouTube pipeline, the gen z that voted for Trump

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<v Speaker 3>down that pipeline by recommending videos after other videos were

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<v Speaker 3>done on YouTube. Fat period paragraph.

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<v Speaker 2>Done right, right, right, right, So.

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<v Speaker 3>This is themating themselves of their own foot But hey,

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<v Speaker 3>if they want common clause of regulating big tech, I

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<v Speaker 3>just hope they get to know someone named Lena Khan

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<v Speaker 3>and we can get it going. Yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>not holding my breath though.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>So we also have promoting traditional family values real shocker

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<v Speaker 3>in here, and then my favorite one, supporting the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so let's talk about supporting the Trump administration promoting

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<v Speaker 1>traditional family values restore the nuclear family to the center

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<v Speaker 1>of American life. Who better to do that than a

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<v Speaker 1>man who is married to his third wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Foundation also asserts that children should be born to

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<v Speaker 2>a mother and father who are married, singling opposition to

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<v Speaker 2>same sex marriage and efforts to eliminate related protections.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I mean sure. Heritage says it will

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<v Speaker 1>back trump efforts to reshape the federal government and restore

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<v Speaker 1>efficient operations again Okay, I mean I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>that means. It plans to size the constitution separations of

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<v Speaker 1>power and expand authority for independent agencies. That's what has

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<v Speaker 1>been doing all this time. And also, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I love this, it wants to increase fossil fuel production.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, So Boby, let's shift gears here away from

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<v Speaker 3>this hellscape. We have a lot of good news. I

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<v Speaker 3>have a prediction for you. I've been wanting to hear

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<v Speaker 3>your thoughts about this. I think the word of the

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<v Speaker 3>year next year is going to be dummy mander.

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<v Speaker 1>So, we have a Georgia Democrat flipping a state House

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<v Speaker 1>seat in a district Trump won by double digits. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Tuesday's elections. We have a Democrat flipping the

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<v Speaker 1>Miami Mayor's office win in control for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>in thirty years. We have everybody moved to left, every

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<v Speaker 1>election moved left on Tuesday twelve points, ten points, fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>points left left left again not surprising if you looked

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<v Speaker 1>at the twenty five cycle at the.

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<v Speaker 2>Governor's race in New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>In Georgia, none of this is surprising, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely what we knew we would start seeing again Republicans.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why Trump is now talking about affordability. Of course

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<v Speaker 1>he's not, but it is affordability. Look, Trump isn't a

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<v Speaker 1>problem here. This is a real problem. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how Trump worlds, you know. I think they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>try to cheat. I think that's going to be the move.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is kind of fascinating to watch them just

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<v Speaker 1>lose and lose and lose. They still control a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the Georgia House, right, It's not like this slips

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<v Speaker 1>the house, but it does show really where we are.

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<v Speaker 3>We're seeing a weather vane point where the wind is

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<v Speaker 3>presently blowing. Let's hope it keeps blowing that way and

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<v Speaker 3>harder and faster.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the question is more like can they stop it?

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<v Speaker 1>And I just don't see a way they can unless

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<v Speaker 1>they start to really cheat. And I think that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to see next.

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<v Speaker 3>So one of the more annoying things I do is

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<v Speaker 3>when I talk to people who work in service, I

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<v Speaker 3>often ask them about the business. And one of the

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<v Speaker 3>things I keep hearing from people of New York is

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<v Speaker 3>that there's no Europeans here anymore since Trump got into office,

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<v Speaker 3>and our tourism has gone down and we've seen this

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<v Speaker 3>in repeated study after study, so it's not just ancidotal news.

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<v Speaker 3>And it looks like mister Trump wants to decimate our

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<v Speaker 3>tourism because now they want to mandate social media checks

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<v Speaker 3>for five years of their social media history before coming

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<v Speaker 3>to the country.

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<v Speaker 2>This is ridiculous. But also, who's going to even do this?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't mean to be the person here calling

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<v Speaker 1>fucking bullshit on this, but Trump administration I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, were you gonna have TSA agents looking at

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<v Speaker 1>people's Twitter history? I mean, I just don't think that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna fly. You know, like so much of this Trump

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<v Speaker 1>world stuff is like they decide they're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>autocracy from nothing, and like I don't. I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't think that's how this is gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it seems really dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're right like that. There's always these Republican

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<v Speaker 3>policies that Contract Toddict their small government, low budget policies,

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<v Speaker 3>like following every pregnant woman around till they reach the

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<v Speaker 3>birth turb and like, you know, like they can't do

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<v Speaker 3>this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, even if they can't do it, like it's against

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<v Speaker 1>their gestalt or whatever. It's also just a question of

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<v Speaker 1>like who is going to practically look at people's cell phones?

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is the thing with so much of Trumpism.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you were going to go from normal American

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<v Speaker 1>democracy to autocracy in fifteen months. Like I don't think so, man.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe maybe they're sub but you know, these

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<v Speaker 1>Europeans are going to come TSA agent is going to

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<v Speaker 1>stop them and be like, fuck you man, let me

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<v Speaker 1>see your phone. No, that's not how it's going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sorry, but no, I don't think that flies.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Over at our YouTube channel, we have some really exciting stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>the first part of the series, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>examine what went wrong with some of the Biden administration's

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<v Speaker 1>approach to policies that may have prevented Democrats from being

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<v Speaker 1>able to deliver the broad anti corruption legislation that needed

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<v Speaker 1>to happen, and by the way that would have prevented

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<v Speaker 1>some of the corruption we're seeing right now. The first

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<v Speaker 1>episode dives deep into the first step of fixing American politics.

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<v Speaker 1>It may sound unsexy, but it's a big, important issue,

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<v Speaker 1>and that big subject is campaign finance reform. For this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>we talk to some of the smartest people we know,

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<v Speaker 1>and Tom Moore. Republicans were prepared for when they got

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<v Speaker 1>the levers of power. Democrats need that same kind of preparation.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we need to start the conversation on how

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<v Speaker 2>Andy Leeby is the host of As the World Churns.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome Too, Fast Politics, Andy Levy.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh hey, Molly, how are you. I didn't see you there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm here, baby.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite thing about RFK is that he lied and

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<v Speaker 1>said during his hearing that he would not fuck up

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine schedules, immediately gets in there, doesn't do.

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<v Speaker 2>Any thing but fucks up vaccine schedules.

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<v Speaker 4>Discuss I also am opposed to him fucking up vaccine scheduling.

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<v Speaker 4>And look, we've now got articles of impeachment on the floor,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess in the House, which obviously, look, they're not

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<v Speaker 4>going to go anywhere because we have a Republican controlled House.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean controlled being the Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a Republican majority in the House. Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 4>probably a better way of putting it. Look, Mike Johnson

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<v Speaker 4>probably won't even hear about this for two weeks because

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<v Speaker 4>he doesn't really keep up with the news. But I

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<v Speaker 4>don't care if this is symbolic. I don't care if

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<v Speaker 4>it goes nowhere, both of which are probably true. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's important. I think it's important to use the

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<v Speaker 4>mechanisms that are still vaguely in place to hold people accountable.

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<v Speaker 4>And out of all the things that this administration is doing,

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<v Speaker 4>I think the attack on health and science are gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be the hardest to undo, or they're going to take

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<v Speaker 4>the longest to undo, is I guess a better way

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<v Speaker 4>of putting it. And I think everything we are seeing

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<v Speaker 4>now with vaccines, with vaccines for babies and newborns and kids.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so like you read this and you hear about this,

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<v Speaker 4>And first of all, my new thing now is I

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<v Speaker 4>read the news every day, and every time I see

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<v Speaker 4>a story, I'm like, well, there's another thing I can't

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<v Speaker 4>post on social media because of terms, because I'll get

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<v Speaker 4>banned for what I want to say about it. Like

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<v Speaker 4>you look at this and you're like, what is your

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<v Speaker 4>goal here? Because you're gonna kill You're gonna kill people.

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<v Speaker 2>So RFK is going to be impeached.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, we have a member of Congress, and we also

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<v Speaker 1>have we have a couple members of Congress who are

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<v Speaker 1>set up an impeachment fight. One of them is Haley Stevens.

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<v Speaker 1>She's running for She's running not for governor. She's running

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<v Speaker 1>for the Senate in Michigan in a very hotly contested

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<v Speaker 1>Senate primary discuss.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Again, that's why when I said I don't care

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<v Speaker 4>if this is symbolic or performative, which I'm sure it

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<v Speaker 4>is against both, Yeah, exactly. I mean, look, Stevens is

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<v Speaker 4>fairly moderate. It's not like she's, you know, a super

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<v Speaker 4>progressive member of the House who you would look at

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<v Speaker 4>this and you would go, oh, right on, they're standing

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<v Speaker 4>up for what they believe in. She's a moderate. So yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I think this is very clearly a senatorial election ploy.

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<v Speaker 4>But again I guess I just I don't really care,

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<v Speaker 4>only because I think it's the right I think it

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<v Speaker 4>happens to be the right thing to do, whether that

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<v Speaker 4>was the intention or not. And I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>one of the things that the Democrats have really failed

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<v Speaker 4>at for me in this past year is in using

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<v Speaker 4>whatever measures are available to at least put up a

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<v Speaker 4>fight to hold them accountable, and to at least, like

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<v Speaker 4>I said, use mechanisms that exist to hold them accountable,

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<v Speaker 4>to hold you know, whether it's RFK, whether it's hag Seth,

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<v Speaker 4>whether it's well, the list is you know, long but undistinguished.

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<v Speaker 4>But like again, as as you and I have talked about,

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<v Speaker 4>as as a lot of people are talking about, it's

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<v Speaker 4>the fighting versus rolling over, you know, and so versus CA. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and even if the fight is if in this case

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<v Speaker 4>it's being launched for the most political of reasons and

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<v Speaker 4>the most cynical of reasons, I'm still in favor of

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<v Speaker 4>it because I think it's something it's a battle that

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<v Speaker 4>has to be fought.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so RFK Junior impeachment. By the way, if Den's

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<v Speaker 2>went back the House, they could impeach RFK.

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<v Speaker 1>Junior and you know, you could see they could maybe

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<v Speaker 1>remove them.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, anything is possible. And I mean as of now,

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<v Speaker 4>as of the end of twenty twenty five, it looks

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<v Speaker 4>like there is a decent chance at least of the

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats taking back the House next year. Obviously a lot

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<v Speaker 4>can change between now and then, but you know, we

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<v Speaker 4>just saw this week in some elections Democrats again did well.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't do well, they did breezy.

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<v Speaker 4>Well yeah, oh absolutely absolutely. But again that's why I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's important to start doing this shit now and

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<v Speaker 4>and get it on the record. And then if you

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<v Speaker 4>gotta you know, if it gets dragged out, or if

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<v Speaker 4>you got to do it again in another year, fine,

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<v Speaker 4>but get yourself on the record as saying you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you can't just put out a press release and say

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<v Speaker 4>boo RFK Jr. And then go home and say, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I've done my job today. Like, you gotta do something,

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<v Speaker 4>and even if that is quixotic and doomed to fail

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<v Speaker 4>and whatever, you gotta at least you gotta show that

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<v Speaker 4>there's a fight here speaking of members of the Trump

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<v Speaker 4>administration doing absolutely crazy shit because they think they'll never

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<v Speaker 4>be held accountable.

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<v Speaker 1>Let us talk about the Department of War and Peace.

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<v Speaker 1>That Weekend anchor friend of yours, close personal friend of

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<v Speaker 1>yours from your time at Fox News, hot guy with

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<v Speaker 1>many many children from many different women. That guy he's

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want the second video of the bombs to be

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<v Speaker 1>It's that second video that's the one that you're not

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, look, obviously I've been following this story and the

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<v Speaker 4>one thing I feel like nobody is saying, and maybe

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<v Speaker 4>I'm wrong, maybe I just missed it, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we keep arguing whether this, Oh, is this a war crime?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it not a war crime because we're not at war,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's just it's murder like either way, horrible and dead.

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<v Speaker 4>What I've started thinking is what it is is state

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<v Speaker 4>sponsored terrorism. And if another nation did this to American boats,

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<v Speaker 4>American civilians on boats, we would call it an act

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<v Speaker 4>of terror. We would call it state sponsored terrorism. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's what we are now. The American state is is

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<v Speaker 4>committing terrorist acts. We are doing this for political reasons.

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<v Speaker 4>We are doing it to strike fear all the things

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<v Speaker 4>that you say, you know, well, how do you define

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<v Speaker 4>what terrorism is? And you know, those are two of

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<v Speaker 4>the big ones. It's obvious. You know. The latest news

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<v Speaker 4>now out of the I think it was in the

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<v Speaker 4>New York Times, is that the Pentagon is fighting very

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<v Speaker 4>hard to keep the survivors from being brought to the

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<v Speaker 4>United States because they don't want them to stand trial here,

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<v Speaker 4>so they want them to go to be put in

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<v Speaker 4>the same place in El Salvador, the same disgusting country.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they've pitched that idea, and the State Department lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>were like, what the actual fuck are you talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't send survivors of strikes to death camps. And

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, yeah, yeah, we were just kidding. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you could see how that conversation went from the time

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<v Speaker 1>the reporter.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, absolutely, and look we know they weren't just kidding.

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<v Speaker 4>And this, of course is also the reason why, as

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<v Speaker 4>we see in those videos where they're trying their damn

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<v Speaker 4>best to make sure there are no survivors, because dead

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<v Speaker 4>men tell no tales, you know, and so they don't

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<v Speaker 4>want survivors to be able to come out there and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>we were a small fishing boat or whatever, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a boat that wouldn't even be able to make it

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<v Speaker 4>to the United States mainland, And it's terrorism to me.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what we are now. We are now committing

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<v Speaker 4>acts of terror. I'm not saying we never have in

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<v Speaker 4>the past, but now it's just sort of, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>that's who we are. That's exactly what we've become. It sucks, Molly,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to talk about the first video for

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, because Tom Cotton, America's favorite senator, said that

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<v Speaker 1>the video showed that they were right to kill the survivors.

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<v Speaker 2>He saw that video, So what do you think the

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<v Speaker 2>thinking there was.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, as we know, Tom Cotton is the same person

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<v Speaker 4>who wanted US troops to be deployed against US citizens.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know the thought process of someone like Tom Cotton,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm kind of happy about that. Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to be able to understand that, because I think

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<v Speaker 4>that would that would it would be a character defect

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to look at that and go, oh, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 4>what he's saying, no, you know, what he's saying is

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<v Speaker 4>he has no problem with murder being committed. He has

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<v Speaker 4>no problem with watching snuff films. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 4>get into any potential, you know, psychosexual issues that may

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<v Speaker 4>be involved here, because that's not my expertise.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also a second video, yes, and so I guess

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<v Speaker 1>there were This may have happened more than once. And

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, we do know that because we killed like

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<v Speaker 1>eighty seven people on these boats, which may or may

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<v Speaker 1>not have been fishing boats, but whatever, but we've killed

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<v Speaker 1>eighty seven people. So there's clearly some other video. Asked

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<v Speaker 1>about whether or not they would release the video, they

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<v Speaker 1>said they had.

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<v Speaker 2>HEG. Sas said he was reviewing.

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<v Speaker 1>This made Chuck Schumer, not known to be the toughest guy,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty mad.

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<v Speaker 4>Look again, I have no desire to watch these videos

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<v Speaker 4>because they are snuff films, but I do think that

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<v Speaker 4>they should be seen. You know, if you're so proud

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<v Speaker 4>of what you did, release the fucking videos. If you're

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<v Speaker 4>so proud of what you did, let the survivors come

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<v Speaker 4>to America, because if you're so convinced of your righteousness,

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<v Speaker 4>you should have nothing to fear from them giving their

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<v Speaker 4>side of the story. You know, it doesn't take any

0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:54.439
<v Speaker 4>moral courage whatsoever to order someone to push a button

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<v Speaker 4>to blow up a fishing boat and with Pete Hegseth

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<v Speaker 4>and people like that. They absolutely they lack moral courage.

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<v Speaker 4>If you have the courage of your convictions, then release

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<v Speaker 4>the videos. Let the survivors talk, and the videos may

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<v Speaker 4>end up being released, but I don't. I think in

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<v Speaker 4>his heart of hearts, whatever little shriveled up thing there

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<v Speaker 4>is in there, he accept doesn't want that video out

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<v Speaker 4>because he knows I think what it's gonna look like

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<v Speaker 4>to a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk for a minute about where we go now.

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<v Speaker 2>So Trump is not popular. Trump not popular.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, these democratic results are just a complete disaster

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<v Speaker 1>and every for Republicans, like you know, they're flipping seats

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<v Speaker 1>that shouldn't be flipped there, you know, looks like dummy

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<v Speaker 1>Mander's coming.

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<v Speaker 2>You're Donald Trump, what do you do?

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, I would like to shoot down any

0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:58.600
<v Speaker 4>rumors that you are, in fact are allegations that I

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<v Speaker 4>am in fact on the Trump right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's being John Macovich. But you're being Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Exactly everything you said is true. Trump is unpopular.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of these MAGA policies, now that they're actually

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<v Speaker 4>being put into place, you're seeing a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>as we keep saying a lot of people going that's

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<v Speaker 4>not what I voted for, even though it is what

0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:18.080
<v Speaker 4>they voted for. I do think all of this is

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<v Speaker 4>going to change now that the State Department is changing

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<v Speaker 4>their font So I do think you have to take

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<v Speaker 4>that into consideration that the popularity. I think we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to see a big change and a big upward movement

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<v Speaker 4>in the popularity. Donald Trump is Donald Trump, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>not like he's going to change or is capable of change.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think he's been capable of change since he was, like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, fourteen, And I guess I think the bigger

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<v Speaker 4>question is for the wanna be Trump's or the wannabe

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:53.480
<v Speaker 4>next Trump's, the JD. Vance's of the world. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>a question of are they going to look at this

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<v Speaker 4>and realize that it's not working to a large extent,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know the answer to that. I mean, Vance,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, seems he's a complete He's completely captured by

0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:13.000
<v Speaker 4>basically the online right and the Peter Thiel type people

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:16.960
<v Speaker 4>who really don't I mean, you want to talk about

0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:19.920
<v Speaker 4>living in a bubble. I don't know that he can change.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know where this goes next. I mean, look,

0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:25.280
<v Speaker 4>we're seeing all this infighting now, Marjorie Taylor Green. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>even Nancy Mace took a five minute break from the

0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:33.359
<v Speaker 4>crazies to say that, you know, hey, this weird stuff

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<v Speaker 4>going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Their problem is they feel like Mike Johnson is not

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<v Speaker 1>treating them like they're grown ups, right, I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>treats women like children.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure their problem is ideological as much as

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, you can't treat us like children.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I do think with Marjorie Taylor Green, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>she's been and trust me, I have absolutely no interest

0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:01.960
<v Speaker 4>in rehabilitating her whatsoever. She doesn't deserve it. She's done

0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:04.119
<v Speaker 4>nothing to deserve it. She's a big part of the

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:08.240
<v Speaker 4>problem she's now complaining about. But there is some ideology

0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:11.119
<v Speaker 4>going on there. I mean, she's talked about the healthcare stuff,

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 4>and a lot of MAGA right now is very anti

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:18.639
<v Speaker 4>populist in you know, whether it's getting rid of the

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<v Speaker 4>healthcare subsidies, causing people's healthcare prices to increase or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not what populism is supposed to be. Populism is,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, for as much as the right wing populist

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<v Speaker 4>hate socialism and communism. There's a lot of government handouts

0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:38.399
<v Speaker 4>involved in populism. Government handouts is their term, which is

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<v Speaker 4>why I use it. Yeah, But so I do think

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<v Speaker 4>with Marjorie Tayler Green and with some of the other

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:47.479
<v Speaker 4>MAGA people on the right, there is this sort of

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 4>realization again whether it's whether it's real or just playing politics,

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 4>but there's this realization that, hey, some of these policies

0:24:56.560 --> 0:25:00.119
<v Speaker 4>are actually going to hurt our base. Whereas I I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know that you know, that sort of intension with

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<v Speaker 4>the we got to get rid of the healthcare subsidies Obamacare.

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 4>It's Obamacare, we got to get rid of it. So

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<v Speaker 4>I do think there are some ideological tensions there. I

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 4>agree with you one hundred percent that, you know, Nancy Mason,

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 4>people like that. A lot of it is I don't

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:22.719
<v Speaker 4>know if they just woke up today and or that

0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:25.360
<v Speaker 4>day and realized, oh, you know what, maggot, A lot

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:29.200
<v Speaker 4>of these maggid dudes don't like women and don't think

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<v Speaker 4>we should be in Congress or in the workplace, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>to begin with. But I don't know what Donald Trump

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.160
<v Speaker 4>himself does. I mean, I mean, I guess we're seeing

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 4>some of it where they want to, you know, sort

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<v Speaker 4>of offset his tariffs that are hurting farmers and stuff

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<v Speaker 4>like that. At a certain point, the lord willing people

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:53.919
<v Speaker 4>who have voted for Trump are gonna maybe realize that

0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 4>he's not actually fighting for them. It feels hard.

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<v Speaker 2>To be because.

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<v Speaker 4>We've had we've had a bunch of years of proof

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<v Speaker 4>of that, and they still believe it. But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think what Trump does is he just he continues

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<v Speaker 4>to lie. He continues to say the economy is strong,

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 4>and you know, prices are going down, and he just

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:15.960
<v Speaker 4>has to hope that there's enough people out there that

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:19.080
<v Speaker 4>continue to fall for it, even as they see their

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 4>prices go up and their wages stagnate or fall. I

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<v Speaker 4>guess the issue how how much longer can he get

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<v Speaker 4>away with the lies? I think is what it comes

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<v Speaker 4>down to. You know what. That's on the electorate, It's

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 4>on the media to be more proactive and stronger in

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 4>saying that he's lying. But I don't know the answer.

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think we are in sort of you know,

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:45.160
<v Speaker 4>in a sense, we're in uncharted waters with this administration

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 4>and all the things we're seeing and all the rollbacks

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 4>of stuff we thought was settled, you know, fifty sixty

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:55.080
<v Speaker 4>years ago. I just I don't know what the final

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 4>answer is, and I'm not sure that MAGA does either

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 4>or the Republican Party, but I repeat myself, and I

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:05.199
<v Speaker 4>have to think that that's a little nerve racking for

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 4>them as we get closer, well, first of all in

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 4>the midterms, and then as we get closer to twenty

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:10.679
<v Speaker 4>twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Levy, if you had to rate yourself on the

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.440
<v Speaker 1>economy right now, how would you rate yourself?

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I'm just kidding, rate myself, like, how am I doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, aa aa.

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<v Speaker 5>Plus plus plus.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, oh, that's right. I forgot. We're doing letter grades

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 4>these days. These days, God.

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<v Speaker 2>Week, come back? Oh well you come back? Will you

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:35.439
<v Speaker 2>come back? No? Come back, you monster?

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<v Speaker 4>After the way we treated today, you think I'm going

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:38.640
<v Speaker 4>to come back.

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy Baldwin is the junior Senator the great state of Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Fast Politics, Senator Baldwin.

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 5>I am so glad to join you. Thanks for having me.

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm delighted to have you.

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 1>And there's just so much to talk about in the

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Senate right now. First, I think we should talk about

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 1>how these Obamacare premiums are just expiring. Like, get us

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:08.160
<v Speaker 1>talking about what where we are. I feel like we're

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:10.679
<v Speaker 1>on yet another affordability cliff.

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 5>There's no question that we are on the precipice of

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:16.879
<v Speaker 5>a cliff right now. So I'm going to bring you

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 5>back to last summer where President Trump brought his signature

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 5>legislation to the floor on taxes. It was a tax bill.

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a tax cut for wealthy people.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right.

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:30.399
<v Speaker 5>The point I'm about to make is that you would

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 5>think the centerpiece of that signature bill, the signature tax bill,

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 5>would be a tax break for working American families to

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 5>be able to afford their healthcare premiums. But no, Instead

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 5>there is this massive tax break that disproportionally benefits big

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 5>corporations and billionaires and the wealthy. They pay for a

0:28:56.000 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 5>little bit of it by cutting food aid and medicaid.

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Right snap, and medicaid, that's.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, And that only pays for a fraction of this

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 5>enormous tax break for the very wealthy. But they fail

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 5>to address this imminent crisis back in the summer, and

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 5>then we said, all right, you left something out, the

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 5>tax break for working people to be able to afford

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 5>their healthcare insurance, and so all year long we have

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 5>been offering opportunities to our Republican colleagues to join us

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 5>in some fashion to prevent people from going over this cliff.

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 5>So on December thirty first, this tax break for working

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 5>families will end unless we act, and the open enrollment

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 5>for Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act is from November first

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 5>through December fifteenth. By my count, there's just a couple

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 5>days left to people to shop for their insurance. When

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 5>they go to healthcare dot gov to shop, they know

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 5>what they were paying per month this year, and they're

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 5>seeing what they will pay next year for their same insurance.

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 5>Then they can shop around and see if there's another

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 5>offering that's a little more affordable. But most people are

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 5>seeing double, triple, quadruple the premiums they were paying this year,

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 5>and too many of them are thinking to themselves, I

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 5>don't know how I can do it. I just can't

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 5>stretch my budget that far. And so we're going to see.

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 5>The estimate is four million nationwide will forego healthcare next

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 5>year because of these tax breaks disappearing. We're fighting to

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 5>extend the tax breaks. We've been fighting to extend the

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 5>tax breaks for the year. We knew they were coming

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 5>to an end. And tomorrow we will get another vote

0:30:56.560 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 5>on extending these tax breaks. It'll be a three clean extension. Okay,

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 5>So what's happening on the Republican side. They have been

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 5>saying for a decade and a half that they want

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 5>to get rid of Obamacare. They want to get rid

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 5>of the Affordable Care Act. They're the same thing, by

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 5>the way, I just people know them as different things,

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 5>so I always put them together. They're the same thing.

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 5>So the Republicans want to get rid of it, and

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 5>they have never come up with a replacement. They talked

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 5>about repeal and replace for many, many years. Donald Trump

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 5>said during his last election, well have a concept of

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 5>a plan. Nothing's come to fruition. And at the eleventh

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 5>hour before we get this vote tomorrow on a clean

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 5>three year extension, Leader Thuon in the Senate has put

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 5>something on the calendar that has to do with health

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 5>savings accounts.

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 2>And this is crazy, it's half baked.

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 5>It doesn't deal with the cliff, it doesn't deal with

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 5>the crisis. So anyways, this is so avoidable. But yet

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 5>here we are. We have fought so hard to give

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 5>this relief to working families, people who are dealing with

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 5>high costs of all sorts of things and can ill

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 5>afford pun intended to have this increase in their healthcare premiums.

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Suon is really an interesting guy because I feel like

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 1>he's one of these Republican senators who's had to make

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 1>a faustian bargain to go along with Trump. Is clearly

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>he knows better. He's been in the Senate a long time.

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 1>He's you know, I'm sure you've done bipartisan legislation with him.

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wonder if you could talk.

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 1>About how if you're John Soon, I mean, what's the

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 1>play here, right? Because you see your already is just

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 1>hemorrhaging elections, right, you know that you could theoretically even

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>lose the Senate despite the Senate map being so bad

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>for Democrats. You have an impossible situation. But you know,

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Republicans don't want extend these subsidies, partially because I think

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>they know that to step towards a government you know,

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a step towards single payer, really, and that's why.

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 1>And it's from the pandemic, and they're hoping that maybe

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 1>they can reverse it and but I think I think

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the public sentiment is to you know, Obamacare is as

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 1>popular as it's ever been. The recent polling showing it's

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, gonzo, So talk us through what you think

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 1>is happening there.

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so as you reflect.

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<v Speaker 5>Polling suggests that huge percentages of Americans, including a majority

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 5>a significant majority of Republicans, want Congress to extend these

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 5>tax credits. I haven't seen the latest round of polling,

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 5>but this is very, very sizable majorities. Trump has access

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 5>to that polling. Trump maybe wants to keep both Houses

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 5>of Congress and Republican control in the second two years

0:33:56.400 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 5>of his administration so he can enact his agenda. And

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 5>so I think what might be going through Leader Thune's

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 5>brain is, is this guy gonna throw me under the

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 5>bus at some point when finally his holsters get his

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 5>attention and say, we lose the House if you don't

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 5>do something. I've got to think that he knows that.

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 5>Right now, Trump's expectation of Senate Republicans is that they

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 5>don't enact a democratic plan to extend the tax credits,

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 5>the tax breaks for working families for three more years.

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 5>But what do they do as their endgame? I don't

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 5>know the answer to that. That's just speculation. But he's

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 5>got to be thinking about like when when is the

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 5>president going to throw me under the bus? Because I

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 5>think it's coming.

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, stefonic is such a great example of how

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 1>you can go along with Trump and then just he

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>has no loyalty to anyone, right.

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 5>Well, look at Taylor Green, I mean, Marjorie Taylor Green.

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Green is unbelievable.

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean, that was on this topic, Like just think

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 5>about she was so reflective in this particular instance of

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.839
<v Speaker 5>what so many Americans are thinking. I understand. She has

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 5>adult children who got their notices that said this is

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 5>what your health care costs. Now, this is what it's

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 5>going to cost next year. They're young adults, new in

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 5>the work world, and they're looking at these premiums, going mom,

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 5>what am I going to do? And she's realizing that

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 5>her constituents, you know, this is real, this is you know,

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:31.839
<v Speaker 5>every number is a person and a family. And so

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 5>she spoke up and said we should extend these And

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 5>that's what happens when you stand up to Trump. As

0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 5>you've seen, she's not only not running again, she's leaving

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 5>the house before the end of her term.

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:50.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because she's getting Danser, She's getting the thing that

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:52.879
<v Speaker 1>everybody gets when they go against Trump.

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:54.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just wild.

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:57.799
<v Speaker 1>So I know that Keem's camp has a sort of

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 1>clean discharge petition on House Care.

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 2>God bless them for a minute.

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>As someone who's been a Senator for a long time,

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>how shocked are you that discharge petitions are the new

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:07.720
<v Speaker 1>normal now?

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 5>Well, in this environment, if there are going to be

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:16.319
<v Speaker 5>checks and balances and Speaker Johnson is just going to

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 5>be Trump's lapdog, it is the only tool that works, right,

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 5>And so in some ways, you know, I hope that

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 5>there are still a handful or more House Republicans who say, oh,

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:32.760
<v Speaker 5>by the way, we're the Article one branch of government,

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 5>and we're supposed to actually make the laws and appropriate

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:39.239
<v Speaker 5>the dollars, not the president, and so we want to

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 5>actually exercise that. And the fact that it kind of

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 5>played out with the Epstein files is interesting because that

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:50.400
<v Speaker 5>was not so much that we passed the laws we

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 5>fund the government, but it was a very important exercise

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:58.280
<v Speaker 5>to say, hey, we're relevant as a Congress. So yeah,

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 5>I mean, in this and viron, in this crazy environment,

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:06.880
<v Speaker 5>discharge petitions. I hope will become the norm if Speaker

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 5>Johnson remains Speaker for the balance of this session.

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 2>It seems like he might not right exactly.

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:17.319
<v Speaker 5>I've been reading bits and pieces here that suggests that

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 5>there are folks that are unhappy. They're probably folks that

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 5>are very unhappy that he put them out of session

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 5>for seven weeks rather than face up to the discharge

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:31.759
<v Speaker 5>petition during the shutdown. I mean, what sort of cowardice.

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 5>In any event, I used to be obsessed on the House.

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 5>Now I'm I'm not as much anymore, Like I just

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:41.720
<v Speaker 5>want the Senate to do it stuff.

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>So talk to me about what Democrats are offering in

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the Senate.

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 5>So we have a clean three year extension for the

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 5>tax breaks that working families rely on to bring down

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:55.320
<v Speaker 5>the cost of their premiums. Now, I have to just say,

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 5>time is running out. We're talking days before the end

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 5>of open enroll and if we were to secure passage

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:06.359
<v Speaker 5>of this legislation, they use a discharge petition to pass

0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 5>it through the House, comes to the President's desk, he

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 5>signs it into law, we'd have to extend the open

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 5>enrollment period. That's a lot of ifs though, really a lot. Yeah,

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 5>that vote happens tomorrow. As I was describing earlier leader

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 5>thun plans on bringing this Republican plan of health savings

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Speaker 5>accounts as a side by side, I don't believe he

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 5>has all of his caucus on that plan. It's so

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 5>half baked. I don't know how many Republicans we get

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:42.239
<v Speaker 5>to vote on our plan, But in order to pass it,

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 5>we would need thirteen of them to come join us

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<v Speaker 5>in that, which is a tall order in these very

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<v Speaker 5>divided times. Not impossible. So please keep calling your representatives

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<v Speaker 5>and senators.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, could you get thirteen? I feel like there are

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<v Speaker 1>four or five that are reasonable.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and many of them who are upper reelection. It's

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<v Speaker 5>just a free vote for them to get well with

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<v Speaker 5>their constituents. I voted for the extension of the tax credits,

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<v Speaker 5>but it didn't pass, but I voted for it, so

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<v Speaker 5>we'll see what happens. Look, there are probably a handful

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<v Speaker 5>more than four that would vote for perhaps a shorter

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<v Speaker 5>extension or with some modifications. But that's not where we

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to start with our offer of like making all

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<v Speaker 5>the concessions to get like six Republicans instead of four. Right,

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<v Speaker 5>we need stability in the insurance market, and we need

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<v Speaker 5>to use that as a jumping off point for much

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<v Speaker 5>broader reforms. Let me be the first to say the

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<v Speaker 5>healthcare system is broken and we are just trying to

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<v Speaker 5>prevent a crisis in the individual market. But we have

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<v Speaker 5>a ton of work to do in broader reforms to

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<v Speaker 5>make sure that our healthcare system is working for everybody,

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<v Speaker 5>like most industrialized countries in the world, world do well.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to cite John Bayner, but didn't he say that

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans have never, ever, ever, ever agreed about any saying

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to healthcare.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't remember that quote specifically, but I trust you

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<v Speaker 5>on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think recently he said something to that effect.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he led the House when I was there, and

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<v Speaker 5>he certainly experienced that both before and during the Affordable

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<v Speaker 5>Care Act debate and after. The only thing that they

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<v Speaker 5>really agreed on was that they wanted to repeal something

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<v Speaker 5>that was nicknamed after the president who secured its passage,

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<v Speaker 5>President Obama. That's the only thing that I think Republicans

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<v Speaker 5>have really come to agree on. Healthcare is the issue

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<v Speaker 5>I'm most passionate about because it is so personal to

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<v Speaker 5>so many. I have bold reforms that I want to

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<v Speaker 5>see enacted. But I do see common ground with my

0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 5>Republican colleagues on some more specific things that you know,

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<v Speaker 5>especially going after the little men and lifting the veil

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<v Speaker 5>of all the secret stuff that goes on behind the

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<v Speaker 5>veil that really adds costs to the system that are needless.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just folks that are in the system preferring profits

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<v Speaker 5>over patient care.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very unsurprising, and also it's really disappointing that the

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<v Speaker 1>Doge crew was not at all interested in fraud, waste,

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<v Speaker 1>and abuse for two seconds. There's so much carnage that

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<v Speaker 1>Trump world has wrought when it comes to foreign aid,

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<v Speaker 1>especially during the holiday season. We're thinking about all these

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 1>children who are you know, starving to death or dying

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<v Speaker 1>of preventable diseases, and then there's RFK Junior just running

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<v Speaker 1>roughshaw over all of our vaccines.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything you guys can do.

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<v Speaker 1>As has sort of grown ups in the room, about

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<v Speaker 1>any of the checks and balances on Trump's craziness?

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<v Speaker 5>There is? And I haven't given up hope that we

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<v Speaker 5>might be able to pass all of our appropriations bills,

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<v Speaker 5>because when those become law, we are going to be

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<v Speaker 5>in a much stronger position to force somebody like Secretary

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<v Speaker 5>Kennedy or in Education Secretary in McMahon to actually do

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<v Speaker 5>their jobs and spend the money as we direct rather

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<v Speaker 5>than spend the money as Doge or somebody else pleases.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's what we've seen, is that because we haven't

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<v Speaker 5>passed the twenty fiscal year twenty twenty six spending bills,

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<v Speaker 5>that they're just saying, well, if we don't have clear direction,

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<v Speaker 5>we can do what we want. So we've seen funding

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<v Speaker 5>to research cut, we've seen funding to disease prevention and

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<v Speaker 5>vaccine research and initiatives cut, and we've seen the Education

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<v Speaker 5>Department being dismantled before our very eyes. So why do

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<v Speaker 5>I have hoped that we can actually pass these appropriation bills.

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<v Speaker 5>The reason is because there's been bipartisan agreement to sort

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<v Speaker 5>of cueue them up for consideration. We've already passed three

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<v Speaker 5>into law, which has stabilized the Veterans Anddministration, which has

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<v Speaker 5>stabilized the US Department of Agriculture. But now we need

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<v Speaker 5>to take the next steps and pass the rest of

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<v Speaker 5>our appropriation bills for the Department of Labor, the Department

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<v Speaker 5>of Health, the Department of Education, for the Defense Department

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<v Speaker 5>to put some guardrails in there. There's a possibility. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not going to say that I am one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 5>sure that we're going to be able to do that,

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<v Speaker 5>but we are making our way forward and I am

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<v Speaker 5>hopeful that we'll be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, Senator Baldwin. This is really great

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<v Speaker 1>and really appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>There all more secretly, Jesse Cannon.

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<v Speaker 3>So, Molly, as we know, the Trump administration has basically

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<v Speaker 3>got two arms, one doing disgustingly cruel policies and the

0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:56.400
<v Speaker 3>other is doing disgustingly corrupt policies. And this one falls

0:43:56.440 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 3>into the disgustingly corrupt. But there might be some oversight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so again, there might be so some over So

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<v Speaker 1>it's sad a US senator called for oversight of an

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<v Speaker 1>insider trading inquiry over Trump donor buying twelve million dollars

0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:19.320
<v Speaker 1>worth of shares. So you still liquefied natural gas firm

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:26.000
<v Speaker 1>bought twelve million dollars of stock after meeting with Trump officials,

0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 1>denies wrongdoing. Look, this is what keeps happening here with

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Trump world, is they keep doing things like they keep

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<v Speaker 1>doing these kind of very kleptocratic moves. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>got Jeff Merkley from Morgan saying that they're going to investigate. Look,

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 1>people are doing a lot of crimey shit. Now eventually

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<v Speaker 1>someone's going to get caught holding the bag. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know when that is. I don't know how that works.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be anything. So I'll be curious to see

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<v Speaker 1>how we can do this, how this works, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think again, and somebody who's going to get in trouble

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<v Speaker 1>for all the crazy shit they're doing. It's just a

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<v Speaker 1>question of when and who is left holding the bag

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<v Speaker 1>and who.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly a lot of.

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:10.760
<v Speaker 1>People are going to get away with a lot of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're already seeing that. That's it for this episode

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