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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Hammer Territory podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is episode two three seven. I'm your host, Brad Rowland,

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Speaker 1: convincin you on a Wednesday evening into Thursday, and we

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Speaker 1: are part of the fould Territory network of podcasts. At

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Speaker 1: Hammer Territory, we cover the Braves all the year round,

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Speaker 1: and today we're taking a little bit of a break

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Speaker 1: from the major league club as things are not going

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Speaker 1: very well, as we probably all know by now. The

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Speaker 1: Braves lost again on Wednesday afternoon, for example, but I

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Speaker 1: spoke to Gora Vedac of PHA Prospects and Battery Power

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Speaker 1: about the MLB Draft and the Braves haul in that draft,

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Speaker 1: as well as the impact on the minor league system,

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Speaker 1: and we discussed all of that on Tuesday and wanted

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Speaker 1: to run that in the feed now on this Wednesday evening,

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Speaker 1: so again we'll have much more major league content. The

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Speaker 1: MLB trading line is about a week away as I'm

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Speaker 1: recording this podcast. There could be emergency shows in the

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Speaker 1: near future. Marcel A Zuna, of course, has been rumblings

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Speaker 1: about him, Russel Iglesias, relievers, et cetera. We'll get into

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Speaker 1: all of that much more later on this week, But

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Speaker 1: for now, a focus on the system, on the draft

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Speaker 1: and a discussion with myself and Gore Of. I am

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Speaker 1: joined now by a genuine prospect expert, gore Of, Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the podcast. It's a post draft discussion is

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Speaker 1: time I did to be to be fair, I was

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Speaker 1: just talking before we started recording. I felt bad about

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Speaker 1: asking you to do this because I know you're really

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Speaker 1: busy right now. But I didn't ask you to do

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Speaker 1: the pre draft episode, so that was that was a

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Speaker 1: small concession I could have. I could have begged to

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Speaker 1: come on two weeks ago to how you do it?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm doing great. How are you doing, Brad?

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Speaker 1: I'm all right. I mean, it's it's the season of

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Speaker 1: prospect analysis. The draft makes it. The draft being when

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Speaker 1: it is is really interesting to me. In general. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of like in that in Mixwen, We're like, you're

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Speaker 1: almost doing trade deadline stuff as well, but the draft

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Speaker 1: is happening, and then the deadline and then the braves

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Speaker 1: where they are and the standings is different this time around,

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Speaker 1: but people have an appetite. I think. In fact, I

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Speaker 1: can tell you this one hundred percent. We got a

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Speaker 1: lot of people asking for an expert such as yourself,

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Speaker 1: and in fact, you my name multiple times, like Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's Gore coming on and talk about the draft, and like, hey,

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Speaker 3: Answer to that kind They're able to do it. We're

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Speaker 1: So it's been a little while now since the draft

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Speaker 1: actually happened, we have some distance. I know you were

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Speaker 1: really in the weeds, and that's I really appreciate your coverage.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I was listening today to Peach

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Speaker 1: date prospects. People should be listening to your show about

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Speaker 1: the Braves system and all of that. But we'll kind

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Speaker 1: of dive, of course, into some guys, but I want

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Speaker 1: to know what you think about the overall way the

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Speaker 1: Braves approach the draft, and that could be wherever you

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Speaker 1: want to take it. Quality of the guys they got,

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Speaker 1: the way they you know, kind of manipulate in it.

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Speaker 1: And that sounds more negative than I mean it, but

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Speaker 1: like going underslot on some guys to spend later, all

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Speaker 1: of the machinations that happened in the draft, what did

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Speaker 2: You know, I think it was consistency, the Braves have

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Speaker 2: Outside of that, you know, there weren't too many too

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Speaker 3: But overall, I am a fan of how the.

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Speaker 1: It totally makes sense. And as someone who's covered enough

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Speaker 3: No, for sure, I think that the biggest thing is

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Speaker 3: So I wouldn't say that.

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Speaker 2: It was some gross dispart departure from from what's happened

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Speaker 4: Drafty the way, Yeah, just the number of pitchers that

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Speaker 3: Than the player position pool. And so we just happen

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Speaker 2: To be more of the positional players that were available

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of a normy question, but it's one

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Speaker 1: Like the best play this is very simplified. Correct me

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Speaker 1: if I'm wrong on this, But the best players at

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Speaker 1: you're just drafting the best athletes. Is that is that?

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Speaker 3: You see that.

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Speaker 2: You tend to see the top players in every single draft.

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Speaker 3: And as you put on you know, height and weight.

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Speaker 3: It's just the versatility around it.

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Speaker 2: Like Tate and Cody Miller, again, they can both play

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Speaker 3: Slots in a second where you can also play one

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Speaker 2: More of the premium talent tend to play those those

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I probably opened uh Facebook or something at some

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Speaker 1: All right, We'll get back to our MLB draft discussion

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Speaker 1: So on the plan you brought up, a lot of

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean everything that I read and see, I like.

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Speaker 1: an entire plan and it's it's everything has to come together.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean it's gonna work. You can still miss teams.

436
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Speaker 1: Everybody misses, like your baseball. The mis rate is so

437
00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,920
Speaker 1: high in the baseball draft for obvious reasons, but I

438
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Speaker 1: feel like that it's worth emphasizing, even though I know

439
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Speaker 1: it's fruitless. People are to ignore this as no matter

440
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Speaker 1: what in five years and go back and wo whichever

441
00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,920
Speaker 1: guy pops behind them will be the one they talk about.

442
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Speaker 1: But it's not a it's not it's not cutting dry.

443
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Speaker 1: You're not You're not just drafting the best player with

444
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Speaker 1: no other considerations in the way that you would in

445
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Speaker 1: other drafts, where it's firm, firmly slotted in for what

446
00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,880
Speaker 1: the guys make know. That's I mean, we're being repetitive,

447
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,719
Speaker 1: but I want to make sure that gets the point across.

448
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 1: It's like, he's obviously guy they like. They wouldn't have

449
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Speaker 1: taken me even with this plan. They would have they

450
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Speaker 1: clearly had a first round level greade on the guy,

451
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Speaker 1: or they wouldn't make it. Does that make sense?

452
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Speaker 2: I mean, I still have they Alex Briggs and Connor

453
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Speaker 2: Hesenberg with first round grade. So you know, with Briggs

454
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Speaker 2: and Connor it's more projection Tait. You saw that his

455
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Speaker 2: tools are higher at the current level. That's why he,

456
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Speaker 2: without a doubt, is a first round talent. But then

457
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Speaker 2: when you talk about Connor and Briggs. I you know,

458
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Speaker 2: within three years when they come out out of college,

459
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Speaker 2: you're talking about two players that might be top five

460
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Speaker 2: overall and so like, it.

461
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Speaker 3: Seems like a lot of money.

462
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Speaker 2: But clearly the Briggs believe in their projection and believe

463
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Speaker 2: in what they saw from them, and they think that

464
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Speaker 2: they can bring them in, get them with their player development,

465
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Speaker 2: which has been fantastic over the past year and a half.

466
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Speaker 3: Now I'm not just talking pictures.

467
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Speaker 2: I'm talking positional, positional players as well, and get get

468
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Speaker 2: their started, get their careers started sooner.

469
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Speaker 3: And you know, I tend to agree, and I think

470
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Speaker 3: they did.

471
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Speaker 2: I think they did a really interesting job of identifying

472
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Speaker 2: really six players that I think have high end potential

473
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Speaker 2: and can make contributions on the major league level if

474
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Speaker 2: they continue to develop.

475
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Speaker 3: The way they are.

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Speaker 1: It makes sense. And I want to We'll come back

477
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Speaker 1: to Ludis and Miller, but I want to ask about

478
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Speaker 1: bris McKenzie because he did get the three million dollars

479
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 1: or so, but his high school pitcher I don't North

480
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 1: Carolina clearly a weird quirk of the baseball draft is

481
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Speaker 1: that he had a first round group. A lot of

482
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Speaker 1: people it's like Kenny, can you sign him? Do you

483
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Speaker 1: have the money to spend? He's the guy that kind

484
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Speaker 1: of splurged on and I think it was like two

485
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Speaker 1: million over slot. It's a lot of money over the

486
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Speaker 1: slot value, all those things. But what's the projection on him?

487
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Speaker 1: Obviously an eighteen year old, I think picture it's gonna

488
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Speaker 1: be a while before we see him at a higher level.

489
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Speaker 1: But clearly guy that they wanted a lot where they

490
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Speaker 1: wouldn't have done what they did.

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Speaker 2: I mean people always ask me, does this player does

492
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Speaker 2: this pitching prospect at top of the rotation impact? And

493
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Speaker 2: with Briggs McKenzie, he absolutely does right now as is

494
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Speaker 2: as an eighteen year old, He's got three plus pitches

495
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Speaker 2: between his between his fastball and his current ball and

496
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Speaker 2: his change up. Really, his current ball is the one

497
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Speaker 2: that stands the top. It's got over a three thousand rpm.

498
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Speaker 2: He can already command all three.

499
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Speaker 3: Pitches as well.

500
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Speaker 2: The biggest thing that a lot of people have really

501
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Speaker 2: knocked on Briggs is the fact that he hasn't held

502
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Speaker 2: his velocity throughout throughout an entire start.

503
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Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't care. That's something that.

504
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Speaker 2: Strength and conditioning is going to get you there. As

505
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Speaker 2: long as you're a professional athlete, and that's what he is.

506
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Speaker 2: You know, by all accounts, there's no issues with his medicals,

507
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 2: so you can tag in that that you can once

508
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Speaker 2: you factor in you know, the Braves player development and

509
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 2: what they do, like typically for pitchers, for starting pitchers,

510
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 2: you'll see them try and teach him a slider just

511
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 2: to have some other kind of breaking pitch that he's

512
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Speaker 2: able to get a few different planes going on the

513
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Speaker 2: when he's facing someone. But you know, with him right

514
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Speaker 2: now as is, he's got three pitches that he can

515
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Speaker 2: throw for strikes. I see a lot like cam Kimminiddi

516
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Speaker 2: last year when he went first overall, someone that is

517
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Speaker 2: able to throw four pitches for strikes at eighteen. It's

518
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Speaker 2: just you see a lot of projection with him, and

519
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 2: I can see him, you know, working with that fastball,

520
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Speaker 2: getting that fastball up to a more consistent ninety five

521
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Speaker 2: and ninety six topping you know, really topping around ninety seven.

522
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Speaker 2: That plus three plus two other breaking pitches, but potentially

523
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Speaker 2: another slider. You're looking at a really good four pitch

524
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Speaker 2: mix from a lefty that can throw ninety seven and

525
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Speaker 2: throw them all for strike. So you know, everything hits

526
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Speaker 2: the ninety nine percentile, you're talking about a top of

527
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Speaker 2: the rotation player.

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Speaker 3: If not, you're still talking about a major league caliber player.

529
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's always interesting to kind of it's really

530
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Speaker 1: hard projective, of course, but you want the ceiling and

531
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Speaker 1: also be like, Okay, what happens if he doesn't hit

532
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Speaker 1: the ceiling? Like is there a secondary outcome that's still

533
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Speaker 1: a positive one where he could be a contributing major

534
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Speaker 1: league or sounds like the answered to that is yes

535
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Speaker 1: on paper with him, and.

536
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Speaker 3: It certainly seems that way.

537
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Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly far away again, high school pitcher. The other

538
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Speaker 1: high schooler you already mentioned in Connor Essenberg high school outfielder,

539
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Speaker 1: the other guy that went over on I think he

540
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Speaker 1: got like a like one point two million in the

541
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Speaker 1: fifth round you've already mentioned you have him as a

542
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Speaker 1: first round grade. That might sound surprising people that saw

543
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Speaker 1: a fifth round pick attached to him, But same similar

544
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Speaker 1: thing as far as like you're you're paying him more

545
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Speaker 1: than he's supposed to get in that spot, you get

546
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Speaker 1: him signed, et cetera. But Esenberg, it's kind of the

547
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Speaker 1: pitch with him as a again, like eighteen year old

548
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Speaker 1: hond Filder.

549
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so one reason why he was so expensive is

550
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: you had to buy him out that commitment from Kentucky.

551
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 2: He was gonna be a two way player at Kentucky,

552
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 2: and a lot of teams liked his arm enough to

553
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Speaker 2: potentially draft him as a pitcher.

554
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Speaker 1: I ask that question I read that. I was like, WHOA, Okay,

555
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: maybe maybe he'll pitch at some point. I don't know.

556
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Speaker 3: The Brave is announced that he's going to be an outfielder.

557
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 2: So by all accounts, I imagine they're just gonna stick

558
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Speaker 2: him with the bat and have play the outfield because

559
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 2: that potential with the bat is enormous, and you're talking

560
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Speaker 2: about a middle of the order type of type of

561
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Speaker 2: bat with pristine power.

562
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Speaker 6: Uh.

563
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Speaker 2: The the really the only flag on him right now,

564
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Speaker 2: because he's got a decent approach. Again, for someone that's eighteen,

565
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: it's gonna you're you're gonna hit that first wave where

566
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 2: you start seeing some curveballs that are a little better

567
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: than you did in high school and you start seeing sliders.

568
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Speaker 2: You're like, oh, like oh crap, Like okay, this is

569
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 2: a little more difficult. But he's not one that whiffs

570
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Speaker 2: a tongue he's not chasing out of the strike zone

571
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Speaker 2: a lot.

572
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Speaker 3: The hit tool will still got some work to do.

573
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Speaker 3: I think it right now, it's got a value of

574
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Speaker 3: like forty five, So you.

575
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Speaker 2: Want to see if you can get it closer to

576
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Speaker 2: a fifty with that same approach, because if you're able to,

577
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 2: and you're talking about someone that can hit I don't know,

578
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: like two seventy to two eighty, you're talking about an

579
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Speaker 2: OBP that's going to be over three seventy, and you're

580
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 2: talking about a slugging percentage that most likely is going

581
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Speaker 2: to be over five hundred because he's got monster power.

582
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Speaker 2: And then on top of that, while he's not extremely fast,

583
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Speaker 2: he is an athlete, so he can do more than

584
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: okay in the in the field itself. And then he's

585
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: got a rocket for an arm. He's throwing darts. He's

586
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 2: looking like Ronald Acuna with the ball in his hand

587
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: and right. So there is a lot to like about

588
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Speaker 2: Connor Ssenberg. And just when we were recording yesterday, between me,

589
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 2: Garrett and Matt, he was the one that we identified

590
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Speaker 2: he might be our most exciting prep pick that we

591
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Speaker 2: believe the Braves would take it.

592
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Speaker 3: In the past, like eight to ten years.

593
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Speaker 1: Wow, I mean that's and that's a long time. And

594
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Speaker 1: also I mean we just went through it. But mcken's

595
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Speaker 1: is a prep pick. Sounds is a prep pick as well.

596
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Speaker 1: So three of three of these guys that we're talking

597
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Speaker 1: about in their top five or six picks this year

598
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: were high school guys. So for you guys to say

599
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Speaker 1: that collectively, is is that an upside? Is that because

600
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 1: of the upside? Is the way is it? Playing style,

601
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: is all those things?

602
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: It's it's absolute monster upside. He's a he was He's

603
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: a bat if everything works out, He's a bat that

604
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: you build a franchise that you build a lineup around

605
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 2: because he can hit for average and he can hit

606
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: for huge power. He's going to be a massive run producer. Again,

607
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: we're talking about projections. Anything can happen, but you know,

608
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: when you're when you're drafting, you want to think about

609
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: best case scenario. And with the way the Braves have

610
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: done and with the changes that they've made really recently

611
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 2: over the past couple of years, and in their overall

612
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: hitting styles, like you're seeing a much more aggressive not aggressive,

613
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Speaker 2: but a much more like a bigger focus on overall

614
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 2: approach and pitch recognition, because you're seeing a lot of

615
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: the Braves positional players like in Isaiah's like an Owen Kret,

616
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 2: Eric Hartman, uh, even David McCabe, some of the older

617
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 2: ones ethan working, working jer like, these guys have all

618
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: taken huge step forwards in their approach. They're not swinging,

619
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 2: they're not chasing nearly as much outside the zone, they're

620
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: putting the ball in play. Yeah, some of these balls

621
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 2: are going straight into the ground, and that's I mean,

622
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: that's something that you work on. But overall, you're you're

623
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 2: seeing the Braves really try and shift the way that

624
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,479
Speaker 2: they fundamentally kind of go about hitting. And we're seeing

625
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: some of those results happen in the minors as of

626
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: right now. And so for players like Alex Lodi's and

627
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: Connor Wesenberg, where you have slightly more aggressive, slightly worse

628
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: it tools, it's like the perfect system for them to

629
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: come into at this exact moment. And I really think

630
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 2: those two are are kind of picks that the Braves

631
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: really really wanted to make for that exact reason. It's

632
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: exactly what they're trying to do, uh throughout the organization.

633
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: And you know, if those guys do make those changes,

634
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: and they are they are able to adapt.

635
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Speaker 3: You're talking about complete game changes in your lineup.

636
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Speaker 6: You know about the best place to buy, sell, trade,

637
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 6: or look for that special card in your world. It's

638
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 6: called Arena Club and aer Kratz just went through a

639
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 6: little slab pack experience and you went big. You went

640
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 6: for the Ruby Pack.

641
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 4: I love it.

642
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 7: I love clicking on the Ruby Pack and knowing that

643
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 7: I'm going to open something that is going to be epic.

644
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 7: I got a cal Ricans junior autographed one of forty two.

645
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 7: I'm keeping it right now, but I would love to

646
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 7: have it in my hands, so I might even have

647
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 7: them send it to me already graded, everything taken care

648
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 7: for me.

649
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 6: That's right. You want to hang it up and stare

650
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 6: at it all day, go for it. But if you're

651
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 6: in there to get something else or to sell it away,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to go back to Lodi's. So actually maybe

661
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: on a group of guys together, you could separate them

662
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: if you want to. But Lodi's Cody Miller and also

663
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: Dixon Williams, who you mentioned briefly before, all middle infielders,

664
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: all for your college guys, different players of course, Lodis

665
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: was the second round pick, Miller and the third, and

666
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: then Williams and as the fourth round cop pick you

667
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: know different Obviously profile is not than the high upside

668
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: college on high side prep guys, but a clear investment

669
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: again in three up the middle guys veterans by prosper standards,

670
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: like how do you differentiate these guys, what's the appeal

671
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: for all three of them? How did they kind of

672
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: stack up alongside the big spin on the prep guys.

673
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: And so they have like a bunch of different skill sets.

674
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: With with Alex Lodi's, you're seeing someone that chases the

675
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: ball a little more.

676
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 3: But has a great swing for power.

677
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: And he's able to really drive that ball into the

678
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: gap extremely well. I can see him hitting eighteen to

679
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: twenty five home runs this season. He's going to be

680
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: a little more aggressive.

681
00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: You might strike out all.

682
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: The little more, but he's going to play a really

683
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: solid shortstop.

684
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: He's got a good arm there.

685
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: I see absolutely no reason why he needs to move

686
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: off that position. And when you're able to add someone

687
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 2: that's at least league average on the glove side and

688
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: then is able to hit at shortstop, able to hit

689
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: you know, potentially twenty five homers get on base at

690
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: a three forty three fifty clip, that's an above average

691
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: shortstop and someone that a lot of teams are trying

692
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 2: to go after. When it comes to Dixon Williams, that's

693
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: someone with a little bit of a higher floor, a

694
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: little more polished, but the tools aren't as loud.

695
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 3: So even with him, that someone.

696
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: At worst case is going to be you know, a

697
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: potential Quada player that's able to provide tons of value

698
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 2: in your organization.

699
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 3: Still if he hits, if everything goes.

700
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: Well for him, you know, you're maybe you're seeing a

701
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: utility infielder that's able to get on base and that

702
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: has tons of value as well, and that's going to

703
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: be another major league quality player in the comp round.

704
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: And then when it comes to Cody Miller, he's like

705
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: the one of the biggest wild cards because when you

706
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: look at what he's done and you think about, like

707
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: the competition he went to East Tennessee State, he didn't have.

708
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: I think he's had like five to six games against

709
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: power power four teams, which he actually absolutely thrived.

710
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 3: I think he had like four of the six home

711
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 3: runs against Power four.

712
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: But there's you don't know how he's going to do

713
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: against increased, increased competition throughout a season. But from what

714
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: we see and what we can project, you're talking about

715
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: someone that's got like a fifty to fifty five hit tools,

716
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: so that's going to be average to above average just

717
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: being able to make contact. He's got good power at

718
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty five, so again someone that might be

719
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: able to hit twenty to twenty five home runs. And

720
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: then he's got seventy speeds so he's stealing thirty plus bags.

721
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: And then on top of that, he's got a sixty arms.

722
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: So he's someone that has a ton of really really

723
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: intriguing tools. And the fact that you know he went

724
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: to East Tennessee State, I would imagine is the reason

725
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: why he went in the third because you look at

726
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: his numbers, you look at what his overall approach, you

727
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: look at a swing, he's someone that chased I think

728
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: the number was eight percent, Like he's not he's not

729
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: going to go outside the strike.

730
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 3: So he knows what he can do and he's he

731
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: had a.

732
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: Modest uptick and power going into his his junior year.

733
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: So he's someone that's for me, he's like one of

734
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: the biggest wildcards. He could be a potential like like Essenberg,

735
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: like a lineup changing kind of player, because he's got

736
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: that unique skill set. I think we uh, the best

737
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: comparison to his upside would be someone like a trade turner.

738
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: If he stays that that'side yeah, because you're talking about

739
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: the power, you're talking about the plus, the double plus speed,

740
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: the great arm, being able to stay it short, Like

741
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: that's a really really high upside.

742
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: We just need to see him.

743
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: Against slightly better competition because again East Tennessee State, and

744
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: then on top of that, I think, yeah, he's like

745
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: five eleven one, so he's a bit on the smaller side,

746
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: but he's got that good approach, he's got that good swing,

747
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: and he's someone I'm gonna really monitor because if that

748
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: hit tool is what we think it could be, he's

749
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: easily top ten, you know in your organization.

750
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was actually gonna ask that kind

751
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: of normaly question about where these guys slot in. I'm

752
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: sure you've thought about it a little bit. I'm not

753
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: say you finalized all of your updated rankings mid season,

754
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: but give me kind of even like the range of

755
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: where some of these top five six guys in this

756
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: class but slot in the system. Because I'm sure people

757
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: are already asking you that question. They've already asked me,

758
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: and I have no idea. So this is why, this

759
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: is why I'm asking you no totally.

760
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: And we actually talked about this yesterday and how I

761
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: think we're gonna be revealing like our top thirty lists

762
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: come then next week. But you know, just just taking

763
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: a quick glance, I have Alex Lodi's in my top

764
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: ten right now because his current value is so high

765
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: compared to the rest. I have Tate South the scene,

766
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: I believe top ten as well. Lodi's is probably top eight,

767
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: Tate's going to be top ten. That doesn't mean, again,

768
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: the ranking doesn't mean that I think.

769
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 3: One's better than the other.

770
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Speaker 2: I think South higher potential, but Alex Lodi's right now

771
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: is better than any other pick that the Braves are drafted.

772
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: Well, Eddie is four years old. He's four years old.

773
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly, Remember.

774
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: That everybody South Saint's a high school kid. Lodis is

775
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: a four year college player. It's different timelines.

776
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Absolutely, Briggs Mackenzie having going to have in my

777
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: top fifteen, Cody Miller I believe is going to be

778
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 2: top twenty for me, Connor Essenberg will definitely be top

779
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 2: twenty five, and then Dixon Williams is probably gonna hover

780
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: right around thirty. So, I mean, you're what we were

781
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: talking what six, six, top thirty in the top in

782
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: the first five rounds, Like that's a that's a really

783
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 2: solid draft.

784
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 3: And of course a lot of it has to do

785
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 3: with the state of the of the farm system as.

786
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: Is and it being so pitcher heavy, and you know,

787
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 2: the new wave of course, the next new wave of

788
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: town is going to be those position players. But yeah,

789
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 2: I think I think I have the Braves at six

790
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: top thirty from this draft.

791
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: And they did go pitching heavy down the board. You know,

792
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: the guys we want to talk about probably a ton

793
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: like individual I think, like I want to say, it

794
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: was like maybe twelve o their last fifteen picks or

795
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: pitchers something like that in the draft and the twenty

796
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: round draft.

797
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think they had three three outfielders after

798
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: after round after round six they had three outfielder and

799
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: everyone else was a pitcher.

800
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: I think that.

801
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also I was this is a very normal

802
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: thing to say. I was surprised that they didn't draft

803
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: a single player from the state of Georgia. They just

804
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: always seem to do that, and they didn't this time.

805
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: Like I kind of choked with Carlos, like, oh, there's

806
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: no Georgia guys in this list? What's going on here?

807
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: Not that they have to do that, It's just one

808
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: of those things. Is there anybody else that you know

809
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: down on the board, even the undraft? I know, I

810
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: know Matt has been talking about on some undrafted guys

811
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: that they've been able to sign. Anybody else that you

812
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: are excited about that we've not discussed so far that was,

813
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: you know, outside of the top five six rounds.

814
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a couple that really stand out.

815
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: First one being their sixth round pick Landon oh Man Beatles.

816
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: I believe. Sorry fans if I if I got that wrong.

817
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: I see enormous relief potential with them.

818
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: I don't really see that third pitch with with this

819
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: change up, it's not quite But if.

820
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 3: He goes into a more straight reliever role.

821
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: I think he's a really really fast rising arm In

822
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: that same vein that's j Woolfolk from UVA. He's got

823
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: a dynamite fastball slider combination. There was some talk about

824
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 2: him potentially going back to college, so being able to

825
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: eventually sign him is actually significant news and really good

826
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: for the Braves. When you look at Logan Forsyth in

827
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: the thirteenth round, he has absolutely no idea where the

828
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: ball is going.

829
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: However, if you look.

830
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: At his overall arsenal, that's a Day one talent, and

831
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: so he's someone that you're watching really really closely to

832
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: see canny can the Braves make something out of him

833
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: because the arm talent is enormous. He's a first round

834
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 2: draft pick if you're just going straight from arm talent.

835
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 2: The only unfortunate thing is like doesn't really know where

836
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: it's going. And then another player would be their eighth

837
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 2: round pick, Carter Lovaz, who comes in with a unique

838
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: arm angle and has a really good three pitch mix,

839
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: and someone that's someone like you can projection out of him.

840
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 3: He's a fourth year senior. He's signed for seventy five hundred.

841
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 2: So the fact that you're able to get him for

842
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: that cheap and someone that I could see potentially becoming

843
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: a major league player, that's that's outstanding. And then if

844
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 2: we look at the undrafted side of things, they've made

845
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: a few signings that have been really, really.

846
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: Really intriguing. Yeah, via cra Carrero, the Puerto Rican shortstop.

847
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: The whole things that we've heard about with Puerto Rican

848
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: shortstops is toolsy, but hit tools out there. That's exactly

849
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: what he's got. He's gonna be a plus defender at short.

850
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: He looks like he can hit for power, but right

851
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: now we don't know if he's gonna hit. But again,

852
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: that's someone that you you sign every day, right that

853
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: that's someone that has more than enough intrigue as a player.

854
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 3: Caden Merritt, who was really I did not expect him.

855
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: He's someone that was committed to Coastal Carolina that were

856
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: just in the College World Series and he decides to

857
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: sign with the Braves, he's someone that again has a ton,

858
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 2: has a ton of projection. The hit tool right now

859
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: is a giant question mark. But he's if he's able

860
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: to hit, then you're talking about a potential five tool player. So, uh,

861
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: there's a and then oh yeah, they just signed Jalen

862
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: from Georgia Tech. The uh he led the Tech pitching

863
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: staff in ERA. I think I think I got that

864
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 2: stat right. He led the Tech pitching staff in ERA

865
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: this year. He's someone that is a top one fifty

866
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 2: talent from the very beginning, but he has had so

867
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: many horrible injuries that it's just ruined his collegiate career.

868
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 2: So he's someone that's got a giant question mark next

869
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: to his name if he stays healthy and if he

870
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 2: is throwing strikes like we think he can.

871
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: Like that's a again, that.

872
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: Is a fantastic first round talent that the Breakers are

873
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 2: able to sign as an undrafted free agent.

874
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was reading. I think it was from Matt

875
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: that he was what was it was a two way

876
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: guy too, like down to George, Southern, like athletic and

877
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: interesting player that people. I mean, I know we have

878
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: some Tech I'm sure we have some Tech fans that

879
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: will be will know him already, but that'll be interesting

880
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: a name before I get you out of here, and

881
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: I promise I will. I want to ask you about

882
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: anything that's interesting to you about the minor league system

883
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: beyond the draft guys, because we joked about this before

884
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,959
Speaker 1: we started recording. But like gonna be more eyeballs on you, guys,

885
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: which is good on the on the system during the August,

886
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: especially August and September, if the Braves are actually out

887
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: of it and they appear to be on their way

888
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: to being out of it at that point in time.

889
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: For example, I saw today Owen Murphy pitching the game

890
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time, and that's

891
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: that's a god people, that's the name people know, a

892
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: big a big time prospect that's been hurt for a

893
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: year plus. Tommy John like came back today. I don't

894
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: know if you watched it. I want to put you

895
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 1: on the spot, but I saw that he pitched today.

896
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: That's that's that's a story. So like, what should people

897
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: be looking for that are not doubt in all the

898
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: time on the mino system, Like, guys, by the way,

899
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: there's opportunity in the midjor leagues down the stretch, probably

900
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: especially pitching Lise like there would be innings to throw.

901
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean really, if you focus on the pitching

902
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: side of things, which is where the Braves have insane depth.

903
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 2: If you go to Triple A A, you're you're looking

904
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: at five top thirty prospects in your in the starting uh.

905
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: In the starting staff. Right, you have Blake.

906
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: Burg Halter, who could potentially I think he's at Yeah,

907
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: he's at a career high ending, so you could see

908
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: him shifting towards the bullpen to kind of conserve that arm.

909
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 2: He's one of major League Baseball player. You got Dylan

910
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: Dodd as well on Buena, and he's someone that's going

911
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: to be in Atlanta.

912
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 3: Didi or Fuints has had that stint. We want him

913
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: to stay down there for the rest of the season.

914
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: So maybe not someone that you want to see in

915
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: the majors this year, but another arm that has ridiculous upside.

916
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: Das Bell Hernandez will be back up in Atlanta.

917
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: Domingo Gonzalez has an opportunity to be up in Atlanta

918
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 2: because now he's locating that cider.

919
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 3: Hayden Harris out at Georgia Southern. He's another intriguing arm.

920
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 3: He's doing so well.

921
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: He's locating that fastball so well at the high at

922
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: the top of the zone, and his fastball is flat

923
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 2: and so you know, he's got that unique vaa.

924
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 3: So the hitters just have no idea what's going on.

925
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: Jean Carlos Laara with his one hundred and three mile

926
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: an hour fastball, He's someone that I think is going

927
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: to be in Atlanta this year because he's really adjusting

928
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 2: to being a reliever. He's really honed in his his

929
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: his walk rate, it's gone down significantly, and now you're

930
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: talking about a double plus two pitch mix between his

931
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: fastball and slider.

932
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 3: JR.

933
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: Ritchie is another player I think, between him and Blake

934
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: Burke Alter are going to be two pitches that are

935
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: going to find their way to Atlanta either this year

936
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: or next. And then Hurston Waldrop's another one. And then

937
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: another one, very very unique.

938
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 3: Player that the Braves add and then really fast tracked

939
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 3: him is Brett Sears.

940
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: And the reason why is like you look at some

941
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 2: of his advanced advanced metrics and he's got like seven

942
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: seven foot extension, which is insane, and because of it,

943
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 2: he throws four really nice pitches, he throws them all

944
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: for strikes.

945
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 3: So, like pitching, why is there's so much to.

946
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: Enjoy if if you just start at the very top

947
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: at at Gwinnette and then for for your more casual players,

948
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: I want to see some of the positional talent, like

949
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: focus on the Augusta Green Jackets, because you have a

950
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: lot of really intriguing players there. And while you look

951
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: at the numbers and you're going to see like a

952
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: six hundred and six twenty six to fifty ops, that

953
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that they're having bad seasons.

954
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 3: What you're seeing right.

955
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: Now is a giant shift in how the Braves are

956
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: trying to coach their their hitters itself, and that's really

957
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: focusing on their approaches, being able to take walks, being

958
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 2: able to cut down that chase rate. And like I

959
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 2: said earlier, you're seeing that with Ambioris Tavars, you're seeing

960
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: it with David McKay, like players that have been in

961
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: the organization where they're hit tools, maybe not McKay, but

962
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 2: where their hit tools were question marks, and you're seeing

963
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: them start to shore up those question marks. And so

964
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: while the numbers might not look goudy like these, you're

965
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: seeing really concrete improvements throughout and that's what's really getting

966
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: me excited, especially for next year because a lot of

967
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: the high end positional talent is going to be in

968
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: Augusta or Rome. You're seeing Colby Jones, who has again

969
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: like a six fifteen ops, but fifty stolen bases to

970
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 2: thirteen cost ceilings.

971
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 3: He's still five last year, right, like you're seeing.

972
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: It's just a it's a refreshing new take on not new,

973
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: but it's just refreshing to really see the Braves focus

974
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: on the strengths of these players, making sure those shine

975
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 2: while also really focusing on, Okay, here's what we think

976
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: is the most important thing, and they're doing a great

977
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: job of executing that. And I've tweeted this a few times.

978
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: I've talked about this, but the staff that they have

979
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: down in a Gusta, between Ruben go Tai Gara Wilkinson,

980
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: Elvin Nina, like those are some of the.

981
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 3: Best best coaches I have seen in a long time.

982
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: And the strength of hopefully what's going to become a strength,

983
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 2: which is gonna be the positional players, Like I don't

984
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: see that risk in the organization anymore, and that that

985
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: should hopefully make everyone a lot more excited about the

986
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: system than me.

987
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it does. It's it's also an opportunity. I'm

988
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: talking to myself too, Like you know, if you don't

989
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: I feel like watching the major league club in August

990
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: September as much, maybe not every night because they might

991
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: be out of it, take an take a night and

992
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 1: watch them minor league baseball. Like you know, there's there's

993
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: some guys that you want to look dream on and

994
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: look at and it could be fun to do. And

995
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: I will certainly do more of that than I normally

996
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: would down the stretch. That's just the reality situation. Like

997
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: I have, There's only so many hours of the day.

998
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: I have other things to do, so I don't watch

999
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: enough minor leage stuff. I'm gonna watch them more minor

1000
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: league baseball in the last till the season's over, basically

1001
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: from this point forward, I'm gonna want to do that.

1002
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: And you already mentioned a bunch of guys you'll see

1003
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: in the majors. You know you already said, just because

1004
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: I remembered it, Dylan Dodd was good in the majors

1005
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: this year in the bullpen, Like Dylan's was kind of

1006
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: like a long afterthought as a as a starter, but

1007
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: like he was good in the bullpen this year, like

1008
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: it has like an era in the threees, and like,

1009
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: look the part did he hear by the way, he's

1010
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: been a topic because he was obviously not ready yet,

1011
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: but like that's a guy that everybody should be still

1012
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: very excited about people. It's it happens a lot. I

1013
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: know this happened. I know we talked about with with

1014
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: Smith Shaver when I when we had you on in April,

1015
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: I think it was about like, hey, don't don't just

1016
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: ignore this guy because he was not great in the

1017
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: majors at one point. Like Dittier is really young and

1018
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: has a great great arm. Is the reason why people

1019
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: like yourself and others were talking about how how he's

1020
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: like maybe the best approp in the system pitching wise.

1021
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: That doesn't go away because he was bad in the

1022
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: majors for like five starts.

1023
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: Like it's I mean when it comes to diddy Er,

1024
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 2: he was born like two weeks after I graduated from

1025
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: high school, so.

1026
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, even he's basically a child.

1027
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: I think about giving up on a player of that caliber,

1028
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: like and then, and the most important thing I can

1029
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: really I can really press on anyone that wants to

1030
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 2: get into monor league baseball.

1031
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 3: Is like, don't look at overall results.

1032
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 2: Look at look at approach. See how they're doing. Are

1033
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: they swinging inside the zone? Are they are they staying?

1034
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: Are they not chasing? Like?

1035
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 3: These are significant things that they're working.

1036
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: On an everyday basis, And while the numbers might not

1037
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 2: be there, it isn't it's important to see the development

1038
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: and that's exactly what we've seen this year.

1039
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: Yep, I look forward to it. That's great advice to

1040
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: meet others who like, hey, yes, I do check the

1041
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: box scores sometimes I read also, this is a unsanctioned

1042
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: plugged by you. But the monor league coverage of battery

1043
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: power is if you don't have time to watch cause like,

1044
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: and that's been the case for years and years and

1045
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: years now. I used to work there. I don't work

1046
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: there anymore. No one's paying me there. It's great catch

1047
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: up reading, like, you will learn a lot of things

1048
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: about guys if you don't have time to watch them.

1049
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: There's is it still daily or most days you have

1050
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: a minor league recap? It's been it's a lot of

1051
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: words every day every day.

1052
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 3: But Tuesday.

1053
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, so six days a week you'll have minor league

1054
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: content on Battery Power you can read catch up on.

1055
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: So that was not you didn't ask me to do that.

1056
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: I just it's true, Like that's I've learned. I mean

1057
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: to the except that I actually know things. I've learned

1058
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: a lot about prospects for years and years from I

1059
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: used to help edit those at one point. Now just

1060
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: reading them from the outside, it's it's valuable content. So

1061
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: hopefully people can get excited about the draft. I think look,

1062
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: as a admitted casual observer of this stuff, I was

1063
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: impressed by the draft takeaways. Like even people that have

1064
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: don't cover the Braves, like people that are national folks,

1065
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: like talking to Carlos or reading Carls J. J. Cooper,

1066
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: all these guys were like, Hey, the Braves did really well.

1067
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: And it's like, if you don't want to believe the

1068
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: guys who covered the rest all the time, number one,

1069
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: you should believe people like GOREV. But like, hey, there's

1070
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: buzz about this draft class. That's fun in the militaries.

1071
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: And then by the way, next year it seems like

1072
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: they're going to have a pretty high draft pick, which

1073
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: could be even more fun. You get more attention on

1074
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: people like you if they have a high draft pick.

1075
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: Next year, you started out more sponsors draft. That's what

1076
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: I hear. So is it we won't have to go

1077
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: blong on this, but is it actually really like supposed

1078
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: to be.

1079
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 2: Totally position talent next year should be astronomical. It should

1080
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: be a really in draguing draft. On top of that,

1081
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 2: if Drake gets the gets the Rookie of the Year,

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Speaker 2: that's another first round pick, ye extra pick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a if you are just inclined to follow

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Speaker 1: the Major League, as I totally get it, Drake Balwin

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Speaker 1: winning Workie of the Year would be big for everybody

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Speaker 1: and not just Drake Baldwin. It it'd be fun to

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Speaker 1: watch just from that standpoint. You always want a guy

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Speaker 1: to do well and win awards and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: But it would help the team because you get you

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Speaker 1: get an extra pick. That's one of the fun things

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Speaker 1: about this weird CBA that we always talk about. There's

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Speaker 1: so many quirks, like I know a lot about the

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Speaker 1: basketball CBA, and then every time I'm like, is that

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Speaker 1: actually true? And I asked him, like, yeah, that's a

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Speaker 1: you're thinking about. Yeah, they have Baseball is weird. I

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Speaker 1: love it, but it's weird.

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Speaker 6: It just is.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you, goreg for being here. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: We've already pluged some of your stuff. If please feel

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Speaker 1: free what's going on in your world, working folks find

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Speaker 1: you and anything else you're doing, and follow along as

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Speaker 1: they absolutely should be.

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Speaker 3: No, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: You can find me on Twitter at gv dec and

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Speaker 2: then really make sure if you're interested in more about

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Speaker 2: the Braves.

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Speaker 3: Draft. Latest episode of Peach State Prospects.

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Speaker 2: Is out on the stream on iTunes and Spotify, and

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Speaker 2: then we're looking to really get that going for the

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Speaker 2: second half of the season.

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Speaker 1: People should be doing that. I am a subscriber and

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Speaker 1: a listeners. It's fun to listen to and I'm always

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Speaker 1: like looking up names. I'll pause stuff like who is

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Speaker 1: this guy to do a little search, And I'm a

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Speaker 1: nerd like that because I don't know everybody, but I'm learning. Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's a good time to dive in and I will

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Speaker 1: always admit what I don't know. So Gore, thanks for

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Speaker 1: doing this. Man. Well, I'm sure I'll beg you to

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Speaker 1: have you back at some point, preferably not the same

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Speaker 1: time that you're also asked by Grant and other people

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Speaker 1: to do the same exact conversation. I'm sure hopefully it

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Speaker 1: was a little bit different we did on this show.

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Speaker 1: We love Grant by the way, Grant McCauley, great, We

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Speaker 1: love Grant, but you were also on there. Listen to that,

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Speaker 1: Listen to appreciate prospects. We're all across the board. Follow

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Speaker 1: you on Twitter. We appreciate it. Ask for everybody else,

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Speaker 1: please subscribe to her Territory anywhere you find your podcast

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Speaker 1: as well, and we'll see you all next time.