1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. Good morning, I'm Nathan 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: following today. 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: Karen, let's begin this morning with the markets. Most major 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: markets in Europe are staying closed for Christmas break, but 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: trading resumes today on Wall Street, and the S and 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: P five hundred is coming off a gain of more 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: than one percent. It is now up twenty six point 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: six percent on the year. Lori Calvacina, head of US 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: equity strategy at RBC Capital Markets, thinks stocks are headed. 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: Even higher in twenty twenty five. 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 4: We think that's going to be another solid year of 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 4: gains in the US equity market, probably a little bit 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 4: slower than what we saw this year, and we do 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 4: think that we are going to have, you know what 16 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 4: some of my colleagues term is potholes, right, some bounce 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 4: of five to ten percent type drawdowns. So we don't 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 4: necessarily think it's going to be a completely smooth ride 19 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 4: that at the end of the day, we think it continues. 20 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 4: Moderation and inflation is going to help keep pe multiples elevated, 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 4: and we think a solid earnings grows backdrop and a 22 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 4: solid economy aren't also going to help propel this market higher, 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 4: but there may be some volatility here and there that 24 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 4: we have to deal with. 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: RBC's Lori Calvacina has a sixty six hundred price target 26 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: for the S and P five hundred next year. That's 27 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: about a ten percent increase from current levels. 28 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: So, Nathan, the big winner this year has been the Nasdaq. 29 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: The index is that more than thirty three percent. Dan Ives, 30 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: global head of tech research at Wedbush Securities, remains bullish 31 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: under the Trump administration, and I think. 32 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 5: With Trump coming in there would definitely be some white 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 5: knuckle moments with trying to tariff discussions, game of high 34 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 5: stakes poker going on, right, So there's been a lot 35 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 5: of headline risk, but you tune the noise down, you 36 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 5: focus in the winners. Hey, and again the Bears that 37 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,639 Speaker 5: talk about valuation, that's how they missed every transformational tech team. 38 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 6: In the last twenty years because. 39 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 5: You're not focused on paying up for the Ferrari going 40 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 5: ninety miles an hour in the left, Liane, But that 41 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 5: is AI revolution. You will have those movements and you 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 5: have your pencils writing and Dan I've. 43 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: Said Wedbush Security has also sees another bullish sign for 44 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: tech the departure of Lena Khan from the FTC. He 45 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: believes that will lead to more acquisitions in the tech industry. 46 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: Well, Karen, Bitcoin has certainly been on a bullish run 47 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: since Trump's election victory in November. It's up about forty 48 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: five percent since that time, more than one hundred and 49 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: thirty percent on the year. Checking the world's biggest cryptocurrency. 50 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: Right now, it is down three and a quarter percent, 51 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: trading at about ninety five two hundred dollars. 52 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: We do have some companies making news this morning. Nathan 53 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: Eli Baba Group has agreed to merge at South Korean 54 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: operations with Emart's e commerce platform. The move is designed 55 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: to better compete in South Korea's fast paced online retail sector. 56 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: Sources say the new entity could be valued at about 57 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: four billion dollars. Ababa has been seeking to expand its 58 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: international footprint to make up for slower growth in its 59 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: core Chinese e commerce business and Uber. 60 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Karen says it's still committed to Taiwan. That's after 61 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: the island's antitrust regulator rejected Uber's plan to buy Delivery 62 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: Heroes Food Panda business on the island for nine hundred 63 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: and fifty million dollars. The acquisition was rejected by Taiwan's 64 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: anti trust regulator due to concerns about reduced competition and 65 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 2: potential price increases. 66 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: Well, Nathan shares of Netflix. They're up three tenths of 67 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: uppercent this morning. The company is coming off a big night. 68 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: The streaming service made its NFL debut, broadcasting two games 69 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: on Christmas. While both games were not competitive and there 70 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: were no technical issues of note, the highlight may have 71 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: been Beyonce's performance during the halftime show in Houston. 72 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 5: July. 73 00:03:53,760 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: Jolly Jolly and the thirty two time Grammy winner rocked 74 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: her hometown Houston crowd with a nearly thirteen minute halftime performance. 75 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: Well, let's turn out to the latest on politics, Karen. 76 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: President elect Donald Trump made a major diplomatic. 77 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 3: Announcement on Christmas Day. 78 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: He's naming Kevin Marino Cabrera his US ambassador to Panama. 79 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 2: It comes as Trump's been calling for lower fees for 80 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: US shipping through the Panama Canal and warning that the 81 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: waterway could fall into the wrong hands. 82 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 3: That's an apparent reference to China. 83 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: Cabrera is a county commissioner in Miami Dade County, Florida, 84 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: and worked on Trump's twenty twenty campaign. In his announcement, 85 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: the president elect said few understand Latin American politics as 86 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,559 Speaker 2: well as Kevin and He also accused Panama of ripping 87 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: the US off quote far beyond their wildest dreams. 88 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: Meantime, Nathan, the current president, is headed to Saint Croix 89 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: later today to spend the rest of the holiday season 90 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: on the Virgin Islands. But before President Biden left, he 91 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: delivered his annual holiday message from the White House on 92 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: Christmas Eve. 93 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 7: Too often we see each other's enemies, not as neighbors, 94 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 7: not as fellow Americans. So my hope is Christmas season 95 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 7: as if we take a few moments quiet reflection, find 96 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 7: that stillness in the heart of Christmas, and looking at 97 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 7: each other, that's who we really are fellow Americans. 98 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: The president is also focused on geopolitics after Russia launched 99 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: a large scale attack on Ukraine's power infrastructure on Christmas Day. 100 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski said it included more than one 101 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: hundred attack drones and seventy missiles, some of them ballistic. 102 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: President Biden called the attack outrageous and said it was 103 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: designed to cut off the Ukrainian people's access to heat 104 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: and electricity during winter. Meantime, Russia is rejecting President elect 105 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: Trump's call for an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine. At the 106 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: same time, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov says Russia is ready 107 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: to open negotiations and Karen. 108 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 2: The turmoil in the Middle East continues this morning. Israel 109 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: and Hamas are blaming each other for complicating ceasefire efforts 110 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 2: in Gaza. Doctors in the Enclaves say three babies have 111 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: died in the cold in recent days, including a three 112 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 2: week old girl overnight, and all made for a solemn 113 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: Christmas observance in the traditional birthplace of Jesus in Bethlehem. 114 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: Cardinal Pierre Battista Pizza Pala led midnight Mass at the 115 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: Church of the Nativity on Christmas Eve. 116 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 8: All these songs seems a little bit out of tune 117 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 8: after retiring year full of tears, blotshets suffering. 118 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: As for ceasefire talks, Hamas has accused Israel of introducing 119 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: new conditions related to the withdrawal from Gaza, release of prisoners, 120 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: and return of displaced people. Israel says Hamas is renegging 121 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: on understandings that have already been reached. And in Syria, 122 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: forces loyal to ex president Bashar al Assad killed fourteen 123 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 2: police members today and wounded ten others. That's according to 124 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: Sirius caretaker government. This is the worst surge of violence 125 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: in Siria since Asad was toppled earlier this month. 126 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: And it's time now for. 127 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: A look at some of their stories making news in 128 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: New York and around the world. And for that were 129 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael, good Morning. 130 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 9: Good Morning Karen. And out of control taxi struck six 131 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 9: pedestrians in New York City's Harold Square on Christmas Day. 132 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 9: One of the victims was a nine year old boy 133 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 9: whose mother was also struck. Another pedestrian was treated at 134 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 9: an area hospital. Three others refused medical treatment, including this 135 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 9: man's wife. 136 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 6: My wife got hit kind of up on her back, shoulder, 137 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 6: sent her spinning. She didn't knock her to the ground, 138 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 6: made sure she was okay, and then noticed that the 139 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 6: card come up hit I think the building or hit 140 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 6: the post. I'm I even sure what it hit. 141 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 9: Police believe the drivers suffered a medical emergency authorities are 142 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 9: investigating what caused and Azerbaijohnny airliner with sixty seven people 143 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,679 Speaker 9: on board to crash in Kazakhstan, and official says thirty 144 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 9: eight people were killed but twenty nine survivedane was un 145 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 9: route from Azerbaijan's capital to the Russian city of Grosny 146 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 9: when it was diverted and attempted at emergency landing. Azerbaijan's 147 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 9: president said that the weather had forced the plane to 148 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 9: change from its planned course. Russia's Civil Aviation Authority said 149 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 9: that preliminary information showed that a bird strike led to 150 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 9: an emergency on board. A grim discovery was made on 151 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 9: a United Airlines plane. Officials in Hawaii are investigating the 152 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 9: discovery of a dead body found in the wheel well 153 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 9: of a United Airlines Boeing seven eighty seven. The jet 154 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 9: had flown from Chicago to Maui on Christmas Eve. How 155 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 9: the body got there remains a mystery. United said the 156 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 9: wheel well is only accessible from the outside on Christmas 157 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 9: Day in Philadelphia, so we have a home cooked mill. 158 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 9: Philadelphia's fourteenth Police District spent the day distributing gifts and 159 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 9: hot meals. Captain Stewart McCollum says, it's the twentieth year 160 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 9: of the hollow tradition. 161 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 10: We selected based upon positive circumstances kids have done exceptionally well, 162 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 10: as well as some families that unfortunately fell on hard 163 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 10: times or went through some extraordinarily unfortunate circumstances. 164 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 9: In Washington, DC, the forty sixth annual National Minora Lighting 165 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 9: Ceremony took place last night, ushering in the start of 166 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 9: the eight day Hanukkah celebration. Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorcis 167 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 9: gave brief remarks celebrating the history of the holiday. 168 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 11: Indeed, the key to our survival despite all those who 169 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 11: tried to destroy us, has been the beauty, joy and 170 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 11: rituals of Judaism. 171 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 9: The start of Hanuka happened to fall this year on 172 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 9: Christmas Meme. While New York City let the world's largest 173 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 9: manower last night, Global News twenty four hours a day 174 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 9: and whenever you wanted with the Bloomberg News. Now, I'm 175 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 9: Michael Barn. This is Bloomberg Care. 176 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: All right, Michael Burn, thank you, and it's time now 177 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: for the Bloomberg Sports Update to you buy try state 178 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: OUDI for that, we bring in Dan Schwartzman. 179 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: Dan good morning, Good morning, Karen and Nathan. The Chiefs 180 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: improved to fifteen and one in the season while clinching 181 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: the number one seed in the AFC. Worthy of motion. 182 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 6: It's like man covers behoves, rifles touch the hoom. 183 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: Hey hits Watson for the score. That's courtesy of Netflix. 184 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 12: The Chiefs knock off the Steelers twenty nine to ten 185 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 12: in Pittsburgh in Game one of the Christmas doubleheader, as 186 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 12: Patrick Mahomes throws at three hundred and twenty yards and 187 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 12: three touchdowns. Head coach Andy Reid praising the defensive effort 188 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 12: against a good Steelers offense, especially without his best defensive player, 189 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 12: Chris Jones. 190 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 13: They've got good receivers, they've got good running back, some 191 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 13: quarterbacks playing well. Their offensive line is stout. I thought 192 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 13: our d line stepped up without Chris. The guys stepped 193 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 13: up and did a great job there. 194 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: That's courtesy at Chiefs dot Com. 195 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 12: Travis Kelsey with a touchdown catch to pass Hall of 196 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 12: Famer Tony Gonzalez, the most touchdown receptions in team history. 197 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 12: The Steelers, who have now lost three games in a row, 198 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 12: fall to ten and six on the year. In Game two, 199 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 12: the Ravens dominated the Texans in Houston thirty one to two, 200 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 12: as Lamar Jackson threw for two touchdowns and rush for another. 201 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 12: Ravens are now eleven and five on the year. The 202 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 12: Texans fall to nine and seven the NBA, with five 203 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 12: games on the Christmas Day schedule. Starting out, the Nicks 204 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 12: out lasting the Spurs one seventeen to one fourteen at 205 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 12: the Garden despite forty two points and eighteen rebounds from 206 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 12: Victor win Banyama. Meanwhile, the Celtics lose at home to 207 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 12: the seventy six Ers one eighteen to one fourteen, with 208 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 12: the Celtics now losing three out their last four games. Elsewhere, 209 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 12: the Timberwolves hold off the Mavericks one oh five to 210 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 12: ninety nine, the Lakers outlast the Warriors one fifteen to 211 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 12: one thirteen, and the Nuggets lose on the road to 212 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 12: the Suns one ten to one hundred, both Kevin Durant 213 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 12: and Bradley Beale leading the Suns in scoring with twenty 214 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 12: seven points a piece. Thatcher Bloomberg Sports Update, I'm Dan Schwartzman. 215 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 8: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on SYRIUS XM, 216 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 8: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 217 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 8: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg day Break. 218 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager on this back to work 219 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: day after Christmas. For the final four trading days of 220 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, the S and P five hundred is 221 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: coming off a one point one percent gain to kick 222 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: off the Santa Claus rally period that began on Christmas Eve. 223 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: Joining us now to help close out this year look 224 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 2: ahead to twenty twenty five, Michael Purvis, founder and CEO 225 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: of tall Buck and Capital Advisors. It's great to have 226 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: you with us this day after Christmas as we watch 227 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: futures move a little bit lower ahead of this morning's open. 228 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 3: Do you see a Santa Claus rally? Michael, Good morning, 229 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: Good morning. 230 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 14: I'm going to be with you. In terms of the 231 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 14: Santa Rally, it's been a slightly unusual one. We have 232 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 14: had basically an upward drift to the markets over the 233 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 14: last few weeks here. But I think you know you 234 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 14: had a couple of things going on obviously coming into 235 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 14: the year, coming into the end of the other we 236 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 14: had a very strong equity market. We had a very 237 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 14: important election in early November there which raises a whole 238 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 14: bunch of questions as opposed to what we had before there, 239 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 14: and then of course you had the FMC, which was 240 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 14: you know, really kind of jolted risk assets at the 241 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 14: bomb market of just two weeks ago. So I think 242 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 14: there's there's a lot of processing the market has to do, 243 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 14: if you will, and I think it's one thing for 244 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 14: the market to be you know, when you have these 245 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 14: things like that kind of coming in with a hawkage 246 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 14: huts as they did. You know, when you're coming into 247 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 14: that condition at twenty two and a half times earnings, 248 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 14: it's different than if you were coming into it at 249 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 14: sort of the low end of the valuation ring. Right, 250 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 14: So twenty two and a half times for the S 251 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 14: and P five hundred was was was a it was 252 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 14: a very robust multiple and a lot can you know, 253 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 14: be adjusted quickly on that. So long story short, the 254 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 14: the like this Santa rally here, whatever we're going to 255 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 14: get in the next few days, feels like it's just 256 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 14: more consolidation here, you know, sort of consolidating around the 257 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 14: six sss and maybe sixty one hundred level here. But 258 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 14: it's not a classic Santa rally like we had last 259 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 14: year where we had a spectacular performance in December. 260 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 3: Well, let's look, I had to twenty twenty five. 261 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: Then the setup here with the FED pulling the reins 262 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: in a bit on cut expectations, and this expectation the 263 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: president like Trump could deliver market friendly policies. Is there 264 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: going to be a cross current between the Fed and 265 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: Trump going into twenty twenty five? 266 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 14: Oh, I think absolutely absolutely. I think there's there's always 267 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 14: a tension between fiscal policy and monetary policy, and as 268 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 14: they're almost you know, almost my design. You know, if 269 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 14: you look in the last couple of years with the 270 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 14: Biden administration, you had a loose fiscal condition and you 271 00:14:53,560 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 14: had a pretty pretty tight monetary condition there. You know, 272 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 14: the White House had its put on the on the 273 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 14: accelerator and Powell had us put on the brakes, if 274 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 14: you will. And so if we do get a continuation 275 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 14: of a loose fiscal policy, I think Powel's instincts were 276 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 14: are absolutely to keep the foot on the on the 277 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 14: on the brakes. I think the question, of course is 278 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 14: Trump's probably going to want lower higher interest rates there, 279 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 14: and I think Powell's going to have to, you know, 280 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 14: revert more than ever to sort of well, let's see 281 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 14: how the data is. If the data continues to be 282 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 14: in the first half of twenty twenty five, what we've 283 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 14: seen just in the last couple of quarters here, whereas 284 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 14: where inflation is brasilient, jobs are resilient, then I think 285 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 14: you're going to see. 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