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Speaker 3: as the great John Annack would say from UFC two

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Speaker 3: seventy one out of Sonya Whittaker Part two, and BC

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Speaker 2: It's Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: It's actually a Sean Price Rugby long sleeve shirt. Do

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Speaker 1: you know who Sean Price is? I'm guessing you don't.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So if that's what that is.

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Speaker 3: Israel a lot of Sonia Robert Whitaker Part two, Luke,

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Speaker 3: Let's not waste any more time. Houston is the summit

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Speaker 3: this time around for the rematch. Nearly three years later,

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Speaker 3: And second question, Luke Thomas, and then I'll tee you

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Speaker 3: Robert Whittaker the most equipped person in the world today

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Speaker 1: Yes, that is true. That is true. I think what

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Speaker 3: And look, I don't say this to try to be

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Speaker 3: and just say, this rematch has the potential to answer

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Speaker 3: you how to Sonia's one sided, because that suggests that

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Speaker 3: he's not bringing that same game plan into this rematch,

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Speaker 1: I think that is absolutely correct to me when I

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Speaker 1: he can go five rounds doing that. Atasiania is just

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Speaker 1: b when you begin to put these other pieces of

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Speaker 1: he's got the benefit of learning a lot of important

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Speaker 3: Nobody wants to go through like some of the hell

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Speaker 3: better for it because of how Whitaker raised his game

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Speaker 2: He had to go five round chess match with there

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Speaker 3: Know, he got his chin tested a little, but it

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Speaker 2: Then against Cannon near Luke, we really.

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Speaker 3: Got to see more of that evolution and saw his chin,

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Speaker 3: saw his perseverance in some of the scares with his

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Speaker 3: he really needed the gas dulum fight as well. Sorry

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Speaker 3: because I know that Gaslam can rightfully be a polarizing

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Speaker 3: of the things that Whitaker had to deal with with poise, spacing, timing,

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Speaker 3: very key preparations for what might happen on Saturday night,

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Speaker 3: because again, you know, you come at Ada sonya, That's

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Speaker 3: what he wants you to do. That's what a guy

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Speaker 3: like Victory can only do. That's what a guy like

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Speaker 3: with it, then it just becomes look Atasani's gonna stay

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Speaker 3: rematch could look like, how different. Well, look, I think

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Speaker 3: we're gonna see the first time of Whittaker needing needing

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Speaker 3: to execute a flawless game plan, of course, to beat

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Speaker 3: somebody like at Asanya, but such a well rounded one,

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Speaker 3: Luke that I think if you look at the tape

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Speaker 2: And I think there's enough there.

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Speaker 3: It's asking a lot of a well rounded fighter like

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Speaker 3: I do think though he's equipped for it, and I'm

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Speaker 3: very interested to see. You know, if you're gonna ask me, BC,

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Speaker 3: round one? Whether Whittaker can't establish himself as the counterpuncher

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Speaker 3: and make Izzy come forward like Romero did, whether you

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Speaker 3: or not, And look, that changed that tenor of the

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Speaker 3: I think that's a starting point for Whittaker to potentially

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Speaker 3: have some success. He's got to slam much more than

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Speaker 3: Romero even thought of attempting to do. But I think

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what Blahovich did. Backed up, backed up,

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Speaker 1: backed up, waited for Adasigna to get open, shut down

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Speaker 1: all of his leg kicks, which we haven't talked about.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that in just a second. And then

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Speaker 1: when he was kind of close to him, you would

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Speaker 1: and landing it. To me, BC, I think that's really important.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pair what you said with the leg kicking.

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Speaker 1: What was one of the major reasons. It's so subtle,

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Speaker 1: many times, how many rounds you can go back in,

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Speaker 1: He's very very good at that and getting out of

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Speaker 1: For whatever it's worth. Belohovich, one of the big things

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Speaker 1: Whittaker could do. I don't know how much he's interested

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Speaker 1: be huge. But I do think we should not lose

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Speaker 3: Because if you're gonna if I'm going to try to

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Speaker 3: is he kind of have to come after him and

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Speaker 3: then he was there with.

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Speaker 3: I'd say, Whittaker, you're gonna the job's gonna have to

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Speaker 3: is he you know Plan A is to build that

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Speaker 3: that it's not that he can't win with Plans B

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Speaker 3: He didn't have the handspeed and the accuracy Whittaker getting

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Speaker 3: not an easy task at all, but it's possible, Luke,

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Speaker 3: how is he going to you know, short of taking

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Speaker 3: you know, hope, but it's something that doesn't happen consistently.

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Speaker 3: How much do you think Whittaker, as the smaller man though,

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Speaker 1: Franklin talked about this. He thought, oh, you know what,

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Speaker 1: But under very strict conditions.

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Speaker 3: Romero was able to get into punching range without taking

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Speaker 3: heavy damage, but he over committed to defense, but it

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Speaker 3: landed that big overhand right on Autasannya in round one

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Speaker 3: I know I'm asking a lot of him to really

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Speaker 3: and you go back and you watch the tape. Gasto's

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Speaker 3: just a different kind of fighter than Whittaker. He's got

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Speaker 3: and he committed to taking Hella damage against at Asnia

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Speaker 2: Are there elements.

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Speaker 3: Though, of at least the idea of what Gastolon did

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Speaker 3: to have to land big shots. And if gastelln did

432
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,879
Speaker 3: one thing great Luke. He didn't mess around with a jab,

433
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 3: it didn't allow auto signya natural counting opportunities. He got

434
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,919
Speaker 3: inside with footwork, and he only threw efficiently with heavy

435
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 3: power shots that swayed momentum at times. There's some of

436
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 3: that for Whittaker, if he wants it.

437
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with that candidly. Here's why.

438
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 1: Two things that I would point to. I mean, I

439
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 1: can't say I'm skeptical. How about that, I would put

440
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,439
Speaker 1: it in a different way. Who the hell knows, right,

441
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought and Gom he wasn't gonna wrestle.

442
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm totally wrong. So I'll just say from this position,

443
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 1: I'm a little skeptical. And the reason why BC is one.

444
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,679
Speaker 1: Remember you had a different I mean, yes, is he

445
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 1: switched to stances, But for a lot of that fight

446
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 1: you had South Paul versus Orthodox right. So it's a

447
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 1: very unique setup for either guy. They could have particular

448
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 1: strengths or weaknesses depending on who they are in that relationship.

449
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 1: That's one again, yes, Whittaker can change stances, but in

450
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 1: general they were kind of orthodox versus orthodox a lot

451
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,399
Speaker 1: of the time. The other one thing I would say is,

452
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, Kelvin Gaslom has in a lot of other

453
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 1: fights been hit a lot. In fact, in his Whittaker fight,

454
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 1: he got hit a lot in the Iazy fight though

455
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Again it could be that open relationship

456
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 1: between the stances, but he actually showed in that in

457
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: that particular fight, he showed really good head movement. He

458
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: was able to get in on the slip line and

459
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 1: get underneath, so he was able to get inside some

460
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: of those defenses from Izzy. And then he has you know,

461
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 1: pretty quick hands, pretty good combination work from there. Is

462
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: that something that a guy like Whittaker excels at. I

463
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,439
Speaker 1: don't really see that as the way that he fights.

464
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's a blueprint that I wouldn't

465
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 1: necessarily say the most time, I think.

466
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Speaker 3: These are blueprints he's got a touch on, because again,

467
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,479
Speaker 3: the whole key for Gaslon there, along with the head movement,

468
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 3: was the efficiency of shots. You're gonna come and jab in,

469
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 3: you know, like Veto, You're gonna you're yeah, pieced up,

470
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 3: so there's some combination here, Luke, of the thread of

471
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 3: the takedown, of working off the break, of you know,

472
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 3: doing all this that that could give her this best

473
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Speaker 3: shot to to at least improve his chances, and I

474
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 3: think he The Gastolum fight for Whitaker, the most recent one,

475
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 3: was probably the best showcase of that well rounded attack.

476
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 3: He was on his back foot for a lot of

477
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 3: that fight, and that success and obviously he also in

478
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 3: top position once he took him down, was very successful.

479
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Speaker 1: I think that's totally correct. He has peaked to a

480
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: degree with that Gaslum fight. It was seven takedowns, he

481
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: got four of them. I mean, he was just in

482
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 1: total command, not just to that dimension. But you go

483
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: back and you watch the tape, the jab, that combo,

484
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: the jab cross high kick that he throws that landed

485
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 1: in the first round. I mean, it was a total showcase.

486
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Speaker 1: But just think about this, it's the same thing that

487
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: Gastolum discovered in the fight with Atasanya that in terms

488
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: of the takedowns Blohovich did as well. Dude, Atasania is

489
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: hard to hit. You can do it, of course, but

490
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Speaker 1: it's not so easy to land clean on him. When

491
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 1: is he going to be most open. He is going

492
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: to be most open when his punch is extended, right,

493
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: That's where the space will exist to get underneath for

494
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 1: the takedown. And this is what gas Lim discovered. If

495
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: he could slip past the jab or the cross, whatever

496
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: he was slipping, now he had all of the space

497
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 1: to land punches or whatever he wanted to do as

498
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: well get you know, attempt takedowns. You got to get

499
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: Adasanya to here because if he's looking at you and

500
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: doing all of whatever the thing he does, yeah, you

501
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: might hit him, of course, but it's just got to

502
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: be a lot harder. It's the same thing. You got

503
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: to get underneath his offense and then are inside of

504
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Speaker 1: his offense and from there he is vulnerable.

505
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, you cannot, under any circumstance hang out in the

506
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 3: middle area unless you're committing to that high guard and

507
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 3: you're going to really go low output, you're still gonna

508
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,479
Speaker 3: get tagged. Because the speed difference is clear between these

509
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 3: two and Winnicker's fast. Obviously, he's you know, he's really

510
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 3: well rounded across the board.

511
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 2: But look on the flip side and let me bring

512
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Speaker 2: in the betting odds here.

513
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Speaker 3: As we shift to the Atasania side of it more

514
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Speaker 3: permanently is Draftking has it minus two ninety Audasanya your

515
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 3: betting favorite plus two thirty. Whittaker what type of changes

516
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 3: because they had monster success team out Asnia in the

517
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: first fight and really Luke Okay, there was the stinker

518
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 3: with Romero, there was the loss to Beleehovis. But even

519
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,479
Speaker 3: in that Plehovich loss, look Atashnya fought well, there were

520
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 3: there was a lot of things to like. It's hard

521
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 3: to make the narrative, you know, you can make the

522
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 3: narrative Whitaker improved more in that timeframe, okay, but it's

523
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: hard to make the narrative that Audasania is still not

524
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: as dominant or more and he's certainly, you know, continuously

525
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 3: going in the right direction. What type of changes, if any,

526
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 3: would behoove them knowing that they're going to get at

527
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 3: the very least a fresher Robert.

528
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Speaker 1: Whitaker on say, well, I think certainly early on patience.

529
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Speaker 1: I think if your team out of Sonya, I'm not

530
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: saying you want to punt on the rounds, but you

531
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: might want to give it a look to see what

532
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: Robert's showing you before you decide exactly what way to

533
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: do it, which, by the way, here's another advantage for Rob.

534
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: I think Rob gets to go in there and set

535
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 1: the tone a little bit early. If he wants to right,

536
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to show you and razzle dazzle you. You know,

537
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 1: not that he's going to just show all his cards

538
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: at once, but he at least began. You know, he

539
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 1: gets to the first move on the chess board as

540
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, and that, you know, depending on

541
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: how things go, that du between guys this good. The

542
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: smallest thing can make a difference. And if he can

543
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: pick up a round or two just by getting in

544
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 1: front creatively and putting out a signa on the back

545
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: foot because he's waiting, you know, that could have an effect.

546
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: So I do think he should wait, but obviously not

547
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: too long. That's the first thing I would say. I think.

548
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: The second thing I would say is, Dude, I really

549
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: believe Atasignya the strength of his offense. It's not that

550
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: the leg kicks are the best, the most important thing

551
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: that he does. But if you take the leg kicks away,

552
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: it forces him into boxing range and then he takes

553
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: a few more risks with what he's doing. They don't

554
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: always work out. I really really believe that they should

555
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: be wary of that and careful and fine ways to

556
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: get the leg kick going. It had an effect in

557
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: the first five PC. You know before, whatever the game

558
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: plan was, we both agree, very suboptimal game plan by

559
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: the first time. But even in that first fight, he's

560
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: bouncing and bouncing and bouncing, and the lake kicks had

561
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: an effect. By the second round he was much more

562
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: flat footed. They've got to find a way to get

563
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: that going. And then obviously, what strikes are you going

564
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: to throw when you're in the middle of the fence

565
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: or the space you're not along the fence line. What

566
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: strikes are you going to throw to make sure that

567
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: you can land and deter him, but that he doesn't,

568
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: you know, use it to get where you're you know,

569
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: you've see out of signa throw things off balance and

570
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: then guys get under him. They have got to be very,

571
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: very disciplined about that. So I'm expecting some bodywork from

572
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: atasania jabs to the body jabbing in general, getting low,

573
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: keeping his level low so he can be ready to

574
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: sprawl and everything else he has to do. And if

575
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: you're a whitaker, obviously taking away that is gonna be

576
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: is gonna be pretty critical as well.

577
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 3: Look, I think at least through the first three rounds,

578
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 3: this is going to be a very slow, one strike

579
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 3: at a time, you know, sniper matchup.

580
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be, you know, as slow as the

581
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: Romero fight.

582
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Speaker 3: But I think you're gonna see some elements of that

583
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 3: because because of the stakes, because of the the idea

584
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 3: that you know, you're not neither guy's coming in here with.

585
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 3: I don't think with the threat that they're going in

586
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 3: the wrong direction or that they can lay an egg here.

587
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 3: I mean this is going to be high, high level IQ,

588
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: which I think both excel at. Again, even in the

589
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: wrong game plan. Whittaker coming forward in the first fight,

590
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: he dressed up those attempts very well, the combinations of

591
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 3: Superman punches, all of that. But I don't think you

592
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 3: can win a fight against Atasanya if your mindset is

593
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 3: you're gonna knock him out.

594
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 2: I really don't. I like that.

595
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: That can't work for Whittaker. So, Luke, do you do

596
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 3: you personally think Robert Whittaker can win five rounds against.

597
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: Well, Really, what you're asking is Kenny win three.

598
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 3: That's true. That's a true point.

599
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he could. He could. To me, he could do

600
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 1: it both with a strong perform I should say this,

601
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: he could do it with a strong performance. But I

602
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: do think for a three round victory over Attisania, either

603
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: he's improved even more than I think he has, and

604
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: by the way, I think he's improved substantially. But I

605
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: also feel like it would require Adasanya to make tactical

606
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: and strategic mistakes. Now, it should be noted we've seen those,

607
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: We have seen miscalculations from him. He is no fighter

608
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: as perfect, including Outasnya. He is not a perfect fighter.

609
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: He is a tremendous, tremendous talent, but no fighter is perfect.

610
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: That is a winnable path, But I still think at

611
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: some point in that scenario, you're you know, it's hard

612
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: to say. Remember it's one thing to have an opponent

613
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: who makes a mistake and then you capitalize. It is

614
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: quite another to make them make a mistake and then

615
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: you capitalize. Would occur. I think to really win is

616
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: going to have to make Adasania make mistakes, and that

617
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: is very hard to do. But with a more you know,

618
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: eclectic game plan in terms of all the offense he

619
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: offers that is doable.

620
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: He's gonna have to outthink him in our game plan.

621
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Speaker 3: I mean, Luke, you know, all all due respects in

622
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 3: city cuckling jokes side, you are going up against Eugene Barman,

623
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: the master tactician. So that puts a lot of pressure

624
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 3: on Team Whittaker. Who are those coaches and how much

625
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 3: respect do you have? We don't hear a lot about

626
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: on this side of the pond or the oceans, at

627
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: least that of Whittaker's coaching team.

628
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: I've forgotten the names of his team. I've looked them up.

629
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: The wrestling coach he has there is outstanding. They were featured,

630
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: They've been featured in a number of their Countdown videos

631
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: and whatnot. I apologize for not knowing them by name

632
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: in that way, but certainly that team is Listen what

633
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: you can say about both of those teams. And he

634
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: brought in a recent According to the Countdown, Rob brought

635
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: in a guy who was a sort of an Australian

636
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: boxing legend, an older guy to really help him work

637
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: on some of his boxing mechanics, like dude Rob's and

638
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: that you saw some of that, and I think of

639
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: the gasoline fight if I'm not mistaken. But in any case,

640
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: you have two teams who don't just have high level

641
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: strategic thinking. They have a very good relationship between coach

642
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: and fighter. They trust one another, they listen to one another,

643
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: They kind of understand what the other one needs. You

644
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: didn't get a full sense of that in the first

645
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: fight because Whittaker came in in a, you know, in

646
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: a suboptimal way. I think you're gonna get a much

647
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: keener sense. This to me is gonna feel a lot

648
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: more like Volkanovsky versus Holloway in terms of how close

649
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: it ends up getting it. Who will get the nod

650
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: We'll have to see, but you're gonna see right some

651
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: of that dynamic.

652
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: Look. I'm telling you right now this is going the distance,

653
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 3: and I'm telling you that it's going to be a

654
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 3: very polarizing score either way, because this is going to

655
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 3: be a chess match at the highest level. The backfoot

656
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: game from Whittaker against Gastolom really showed that if he

657
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 3: wants to commit to being the counterpuncher and even pulling

658
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: an out of Sonia in getting offense going backwards at times,

659
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: it's potentially in play. And again you mentioned, Okay, if

660
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 3: you're gonna beat out ASGN, you got to make him

661
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 3: make a mistake. I think, Luke, if you're looking to

662
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 3: knock him out, you got to make him make a mistake.

663
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: And he doesn't make those mistakes in high pressure situations.

664
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Speaker 3: I think you need to put him just in his

665
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: least optimum state.

666
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: Of winning a fight.

667
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 3: Not again, not situations where he can't win a fight,

668
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 3: but if you may, if you put the onus on

669
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 3: him coming forward, you're going to open up more opportunities, uh,

670
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: to have success if you're Whittaker, if you can pull

671
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: that off. Now, Luke, there's been a lazy narrative of saying, Okay, well,

672
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: if you're a team Whittaker, you just take the the

673
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: Blahovich game plan and use that. Look, they are so

674
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: far different in size. I mean, you saw the face

675
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: off at yesterday's press conference. It reminds you how much

676
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: taller out of Sonya is. Uh I don't you know?

677
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: You take elements in the spirit of it. You got

678
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: to have the threat of the takedown. But we got

679
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: to stop with that idea right there.

680
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's We've talked about this a little bit. Ad

681
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: nauseum which is you know, some of the ways Blohovich

682
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: was able to win was when you look at his

683
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 1: dominant grappling and you ask what exactly was dominant about it.

684
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: It was just heavy top pressure, you know, and he

685
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: you could see him literally like pancaking out of Sonya

686
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: to the mat. Dude, Whittaker is not. Dude. Whittaker couldn't

687
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: do that against Gastolum. Now, to be clear, Whittaker did

688
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 1: have We should point this out. Bec Whittaker did have

689
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: very good top control from half guard. He was able

690
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: to keep Gasolin down for I think several minutes of

691
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: the first round at a bare minimum like he had.

692
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: He was good at it. But you know, Whittaker was underneath,

693
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: sorry I should say Gaslam was underneath, moving and was

694
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: able to eventually get to the top of the fence

695
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: standing up. You know, we've seen if Vittori has a

696
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: hard time keeping out of signed it down. I'm not

697
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: saying that Whittaker can't do it for short and potentially

698
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: impactful bursts, but this ability to pancake a guy like

699
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: Atta sign yet especially I you know, maybe it's just me.

700
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: I feel like Atta Signa has put on a little

701
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: bit of muscle recently, not a huge amount, but he

702
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: looks to me a little bit more filled out than

703
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: he has recently. I just don't see that as a

704
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: realistic game plan. Getting a takedown, getting meaningful top control,

705
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: doing some damage with it, one pancaking a guy and

706
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: then riding out the round that way seems terribly unrealised.

707
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: The thread has to be there because he's gonna have

708
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: to use the thread of a takedown to open up

709
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 3: other offensive opportunities, particularly on counters.

710
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: But I do have an update, by the way, if

711
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: you care about this card. The main event, guys made weight.

712
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: They both looked incredible on the scales, but the fight

713
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: between Schnell and Alex Perez is off. Perez missed wait

714
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: and Schnell refused the fight, so that one is off.

715
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: Like, fuck that guy, absolutely, Luke, We've we've heard a

716
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: lot of Robert Whitaker sound this week from my interview

717
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: with him that you can catch on YouTube dot com

718
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: Slash Morning Combat along with Derek Lewis, Chris Colbert, Anthony

719
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 3: Pettis a lot of good stuff there bonus wise. But Luke,

720
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 3: we've got sound from Atasanya from Wednesday's media day when

721
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: he sat in front of reporters in Las Vegas, and

722
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: he had a very interesting thing to shout out. Let's

723
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: throw to that.

724
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's a good fight. He's he's a

725
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: good fighter, and I think he has gotten better. I'd

726
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 4: be lying if I said he hasn't. But you know

727
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 4: who was I I saw on Twitter? Again, I have

728
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 4: a lot of time there a fight weeks, so I'm

729
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 4: scrolling it up. So I think we was a Luke Thomas. Yes, morning, comeback.

730
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: They was saying like, pretty much we know this in MMA.

731
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 4: We have recncy bias. You know, you guys remember from

732
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 4: the y'all fight. Oh my god, this we're so boring. No,

733
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 4: he just runs away and I was like, oh, really

734
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 4: watch this. So yeah, they just forget you know, rubs it.

735
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: Luke. Uh, that's real, you know, recognizing real.

736
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

737
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to sit here and voast Luke, but uh,

738
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 3: that's what's up, Okay, dude.

739
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: I have a high degree of respect for Israel A Designia.

740
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: It's been a joy to cover his career. I mean

741
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: that quite sincerely. I think he's one of the most

742
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: unique people we have in the sport. I think it's

743
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: you know, when he's gone, I think people will finally

744
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: appreciate all the stuff that he did. And you know,

745
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: this is why I don't really consider myself a journalist.

746
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't really do journalism per se. I do much

747
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: more sort of media hype really than anything else. But yeah, dude,

748
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: it's great to see I've I think very highly of

749
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: the middleweight champion, very highly.

750
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 3: I got a lot of d ms from Look, we

751
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 3: already know the passion for for combat sports down Under,

752
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: for MMA and Australia New Zealand is through the roof Luke.

753
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: I got a lot of down Under DM just saying.

754
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 3: Hey, BC, you bitch, you old bitch. I know, I

755
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: know you're cheering for Robert Whitaker.

756
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 2: I know you're just jealous.

757
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 3: You just hey, hey, hey, all of Australia New Zealand,

758
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 3: your boy BC loves him so out of Sonia.

759
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 2: Okay, that's why part of why I love this fight

760
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: so much.

761
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 3: Whether I like Whitaker's chances or not, I'm so happy

762
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 3: Luke that out of Sonia at least in theory got

763
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 3: paid with the announcement. As we mentioned quickly on Wednesday show,

764
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: to become quote unquote whatever this means, you know, one

765
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 3: of the highest paid mixed martial artists in the sports history, Luke.

766
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: He talked about it.

767
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: Very briefly as a quick aside in Wednesday's press conference

768
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: of saying, you know, there's gonna be a trickle down

769
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: effect that he's excited about.

770
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: What does that really mean.

771
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 3: Do you think that he's saying maybe because of the

772
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: Anganu situation in John Jones and others bringing Fighter pace

773
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 3: so forcefully to light at the very least out of

774
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: Sonya got himself paid.

775
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 2: Whether you think that's a result of that or not.

776
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: But it's not like at Asanya was saying, the stars

777
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: are going to start to be taken.

778
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 2: Care of moving forward.

779
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 3: Is that what he's saying, Luke?

780
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: Could be that, but I don't think there's any Listen,

781
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: the UFC does respond to public pressure. They're very quiet

782
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: about it, they're very you know, behind the scenes about it.

783
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: And yes, and they're also resistant to other forms of

784
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: public pressure. It doesn't always work. But the reality of

785
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: that lawsuit was and John Nash made this point recently.

786
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: When you think about all the various entities that have

787
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: at least attempted to do something on behalf of the

788
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: fighters right to get more information, more awareness, just to

789
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: meaningfully improve their situation. You can't really say that the

790
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: double M, triple A or the you know, the professional whatever,

791
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: that thing that boris tried, all that stuff didn't really

792
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: do anything, didn't I mean, they tried Project Speier had tried.

793
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: I want to say that they made a good faith effort,

794
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: of course, but in the end it was not very successful.

795
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: What was successful was and it's not even over that lawsuit,

796
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: a bringing to light all the documents that we needed

797
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: to make judgments about fighter pay. But more to the point,

798
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: they introduced some of the sunset and some pay went

799
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: up for some certain guys. And so it is entirely

800
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: believable to me that Jake Paul, whatever else you think

801
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: about him, ringing that fighter pay bell, and you can

802
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: say he's disingenuous about it, Fine, maybe he is. But

803
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 1: the fact that he's ringing that bell and everyone else

804
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: and then gone to making these claims about it, I

805
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: have a strong suspicion that that put them in a

806
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: place where are they still are the fighters optimizing how

807
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: much they could get. I'm very skeptical of that, But

808
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: I am not skeptical that all these things influenced the

809
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: situation to bring at Asnia more money and good for him.

810
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: That's how they went after the right guy, by the way.

811
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 3: You know, even if he's thirty three years old or

812
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 3: thirty two whatever, Luke, I mean, this is the right

813
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: guy globally to build around. And you know, we remember

814
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 3: the Eugene Barnman comments I mentioned on Wednesday, teasing that

815
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: the UFC hasn't done a great job promoting him like

816
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: they could have. It was interesting is he on Wednesday

817
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: did bring up that he felt the announcement of this

818
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 3: fight by the UFC was just so whole home and

819
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 3: thrown out there and was purposely done as leverage since

820
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 3: he was in the midst of an intense contract negotiation

821
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 3: at the time. Look, they would ever do that, That's ridiculous.

822
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: It seems it seems so uncharacteristic of the hardball games

823
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: they play. Why would they ever do something like that?

824
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: Obvious?

825
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: We don't know, We should be clear, we don't know.

826
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: We have no idea that we're.

827
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 3: Just speculating a guy like this get paid.

828
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 2: He's a superstar.

829
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: I think there's so much potential even more for his

830
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: brand to grow if he I mean God, if he

831
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: beats Robert Whitaker a second time and does it convincingly, damn,

832
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

833
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about let's talk about that. Here are

834
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: the list of middleweight champions as it stands today BC.

835
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: This is the list, the full list of them, right like,

836
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: how many have there been and who are they? Here's

837
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: the list. These are all the middleweight champions in UFC history.

838
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: Dave Manet, Marilla Bustamante, Evan Tanner, Rich Franklin, Anderson, Silva,

839
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: Chris Wyban, Luke rock Hold, Michael Bissing, Robert Whittaker, uh,

840
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: and then he was for the interim title, and then

841
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: you know the whole thing with Saint Pierre. Then Robert

842
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: Whitaker got it back or whatever, promoted to undisputed champion

843
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: whatever it was. Then Attasnia and then that he had

844
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: it for an interim time time and then this one.

845
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: So he's had it. If you look at who's had

846
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: it longer. Obviously Silva will be the longest twenty four

847
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty seven days, Wideman eight hundred and eighty

848
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: nine days BCE, but his wins would include the Anderson

849
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: Silva win, Machetah and then belfour for the getting the

850
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: belt and then defenses by contrast out to sign it

851
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: would have all the wins, and then the Romero Costa

852
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: in Victori fight. I'm gonna argue that if he beats

853
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: Whitaker here, he is, at worst, at worst, your second

854
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: best middleweight of all time, at worst. Correct.

855
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're correct, You're correct, Luca. I told you

856
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 3: when we did this peak pandemic at CBS Sports, when

857
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 3: we just started ranking historically the greatest fighters in each

858
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 3: UFC division all time, it was a tough debate after

859
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 3: Silva at that point to really identify who the number

860
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: two was, because it was fairly even whether you were

861
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 3: a Wideman.

862
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 2: Guy, a rock Hold guy.

863
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 3: You know, there were a couple of other arguments you

864
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: could have made coming in hipster arguments. Is Autustnia already

865
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 3: there got a few beats, Wait, Grace, second time, He's

866
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: already there. And by the way, Luke, if Winnaker comes

867
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: back and avenges this is only lost in this weight

868
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 3: division and beats out of Sonia's that it all falls

869
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 3: into why this fight's so great, why it's potential for

870
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 3: some historic results.

871
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: And why Luke, I think again, at the end of

872
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 2: the day.

873
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if either one of these guys ever

874
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: passes Anderson self I would I would probably guess not.

875
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 3: But I think they're gonna fight each other three times,

876
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 3: and I think we're gonna remember out of Sonya and

877
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: Whittaker when it is all said and done, as the

878
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: second and third best middleweights in the UFC history or

879
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 3: the sports history or whatever. Again, flip flop based on

880
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 3: how this rival replays out. But whether that just gave

881
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 3: away my prediction or not, I think we're seeing a

882
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 3: third one. I love these two. I love what it could,

883
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 3: what this matchup could bring. It's why I've got a

884
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: heart on from here to hand over. Luke, I am

885
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 3: so damn fired up about this fight. Do you have

886
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: anything else to say, Luke about what could happen?

887
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 5: This is?

888
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: This is This is elite. MMA doesn't come much better.

889
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: And just one final note, it is what I would

890
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: say to folks just as a reminder, this is why

891
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: you want MMA. Globalized. MMA gets better when you can

892
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: pull in all the talent from Africa, all the talent

893
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: from Asia, all the talent from New Zealand, from Australia.

894
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: In this particular case, obviously and everywhere else. And this

895
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: is just scratching the surface. They're just scratching the surface

896
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: of how much unbelievable talent is out there. And this

897
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: is a great showcase for how much MMA has developed.

898
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 1: And it's just a great showcase. If you love elite MMA,

899
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: you don't get much better than this. What a fight,

900
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: what a contest, What two guys who brought us to

901
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: this position. We are lucky, quite lucky to be living

902
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: through an era like this.

903
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: All right, look, it's prediction time. I think you can

904
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: tell where I'm going. We're going five rounds. The public

905
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: will be split, the judges may even end up being

906
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 3: split again. I think both will bring their very best game.

907
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 3: You'll see a lot of adjustments. Really, this has the

908
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: potential to be a great fight. Maybe not fight of

909
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 3: the year, but strategically, tactfully. I am dialed in and ready,

910
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: and I've got Robert Whitaker winning the division, winning the

911
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 3: decision here. And I've heard people say, for all, you know,

912
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 3: all the pump up and the puff up of Rob

913
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 3: and making excuses for HIBC, how the hell is he

914
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 3: actually gonna get in there and beat out of Sony.

915
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be easy.

916
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: It's gonna have.

917
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 3: To be a varied attack. You're gonna have to make

918
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: Ada Sonya come to you. You're gonna have to know

919
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 3: that you're gonna lose at least two rounds. I mean,

920
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 3: this is going to be X's and Oh's. You know,

921
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: I don't see him having monster success on the ground,

922
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: but I see Whitaker getting a few takedowns and establishing

923
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: that threat. He's gonna have to have his chin tested

924
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 3: because to go into the fire, he's gonna have to win,

925
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 3: you know, land something big to win these rounds, and

926
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: he's gonna get checked if those counter hooks from Auta

927
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 3: Sonya are deadly. But Luke, we have a reformed man

928
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 3: who you know, when aut of Sonya really started to

929
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,479
Speaker 3: become out of Sonya, you looked around the roster and yeah,

930
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: you love to talk yourself into the one punch potential

931
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 3: of a Romero or you know what if this specific

932
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 3: fighter could take out a Sonya down the whole fight,

933
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 3: but we're talking about, you know, a puncher's chance in

934
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: those cases, a wrestler's chance. We got the real deal,

935
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: well rounded potential, all time great fighter, and Whittaker here

936
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: and I think he finds a way and gets it done.

937
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: We haven't seen Whitaker.

938
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 3: I'm sorry out to Sonya in this competitive of a

939
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 3: fight at middleweight in a while since Gastelum. To be fair,

940
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: you're going to see it again on Saturday Night, and

941
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: we're going to see a great fight.

942
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: Give me a majority split either way.

943
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 3: Robert Whittaker, Luke who wins Offay.

944
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,959
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a bold pick. That's interesting, I would say,

945
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: And we don't know if this in reference to our

946
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: conversation on Wednesday BC about Penya and Nunez, right, did

947
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: you get the very best versions of both of them?

948
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: And how you know it doesn't have It doesn't require

949
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: a huge difference on the right night for one to

950
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: surpass the other, assuming one is kind of off and

951
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 1: one is kind of on. Listen out of Sonya doesn't

952
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: have room for air. He does not have room for air.

953
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: I'll be just as clear about that as I can be.

954
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: Any error made in this fight, either tactically, strategically, in

955
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: the moment, whatever, is going to be very costly, and

956
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: Robert Whittaker will make him pay for it. I'm expecting

957
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: a very very close fight, but I think a game

958
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: to a game. If that's what we get, who the

959
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: hell knows. I think Israel Atasiania is too talented. I

960
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: think that he'll be able, for the most part, to

961
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 1: bring the portions of his offense that matter to life

962
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: enough to win three rounds. And I think he probably

963
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: stops Whitaker inside the distance. But but I'll say this,

964
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 1: the fight going the distance would be of zero surprise.

965
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: I mean that, you know, I just I think he

966
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: gets it done inside the distance. But if it went whatever.

967
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: But I think in general, Adasiannya the better fighter. He

968
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: should win.

969
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 3: Luke is is the public and the media overplaying how

970
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 3: much Whittaker may or may not have been compromised the

971
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 3: first time?

972
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: No, I don't think they were overplaying it. Here's the

973
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: thing again, it's the huge GSP thing. He was one

974
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: of the first time, so the comparison doesn't work. But

975
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: when they met up the second time, you're just looking

976
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: and you're like, Okay, Heugh's this formidable, But like, what

977
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: what is it gonna be? What's he better at than

978
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: Saint Pierre? You just didn't know what it was. It's

979
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: not case here, it's not dude, it's not He has

980
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: shown you through three tough ass fights, three very very

981
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: good fighters, that he can make the kinds of changes

982
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: that make his game better. It's just a fact. And

983
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: so you're unless he commits another cataclysmic strategic airbacy, which

984
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm just not expecting at all. He's way too smart,

985
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: way too seasoned, you are getting a different fighter. It's

986
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: not the same guy. You just have to respect that,

987
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: whether you think he's gonna win or lose. And I

988
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: definitely respect that.

989
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 3: They haven't made a lot of humans on this earth.

990
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 3: Luke who could go ten full rounds against a prime

991
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: Yoel Romero and come out with his hand raised twice,

992
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 3: whether he disputed or not. It may have cost him

993
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 3: three years of his career, to be fair in terms

994
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 3: of I mean, he sat out a year after the

995
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 3: first Romero fight, almost a year after the second one.

996
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 3: Then he pulled out of two fights. He's all left up.

997
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 3: Then he gets knocked out. He may have lost three

998
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: years to his career. But Bobby Huckle is still that guy.

999
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 3: And if you believe he is, you believe he's got

1000
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 3: a chance. But your prediction out of Sonia winning by stoppage, boy,

1001
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 3: is that in play as well? Because we saw it

1002
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 3: the first time around, and he is that great. Love

1003
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 3: this fight, Luke, Damn.

1004
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: It's it's it's pretty you know what it should be.

1005
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: You know this, I'm as excited for this as maybe

1006
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: even more so, because I would actually say this is

1007
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: more much more uncertain even than Canelo versus Plant. But

1008
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: even then you were like, damn, I'm not sure exactly

1009
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: how this is gonna go, right, Like this is a

1010
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: lot there was a lot of reasons not to think

1011
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: that Plant could win in the same way. But you know,

1012
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: how is Cannelo going to solve the puzzle? And that

1013
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: to me was very intriguing In this case, It's like,

1014
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: how is Whittaker going to solve that puzzle? And if

1015
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: he does present a new puzzle, how is outa sign

1016
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: you're going to solve it. It's just competitive in the

1017
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: best of ways. Two guys, dude, What are you gonna say?

1018
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: Two guys in their prime, two proven champions, two battle

1019
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: tested champions who aren't over the hell. I mean, if

1020
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: you're an MMA fan, dude, what is it that you want?

1021
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: You want this every time? This is what you're waiting

1022
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: for for. This is the stuff you sit through all

1023
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,479
Speaker 1: the rest of that bullshit, so you can get these two.

1024
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: That's what you're waiting for. Mother? Why is this is?

1025
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: This is Filet Mignon fucking enjoy you know?

1026
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 3: Is this the best pure fight on paper? Not necessarily

1027
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: taking commercialism into it? Send to be versus Connor or

1028
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 3: was Holloway Volkanovsky that?

1029
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: Or hey BC, shut up?

1030
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: Just enjoy the foot it's it's it's it's I'll just

1031
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: put it this way. I don't know exactly how I

1032
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: would rank it, but I'm being dead serious when I

1033
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: say it. I don't know how exciting the fight's gonna be.

1034
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: All the promoter do is is can give you the

1035
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: fights that matter, that you want to see, that are

1036
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: important for the sport. They have done that here, you

1037
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: have it on paper. On paper, MMA fights simply don't

1038
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: don't get better. They just don't. So that doesn't mean

1039
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: that the fight will be exciting. But for everything that

1040
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: a fan could ask for in a matchup, the it

1041
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: checks the boxes times a thousand.

1042
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 3: Well, if you like high level MMA, the main event's

1043
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 3: gonna bring it. If you like two guys entering inside

1044
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 3: of a cage prepared to bang, we.

1045
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: Got that too.

1046
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 3: Our second topic is of course the co main event

1047
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 3: on Saturday night as Houston's own Derek Lewis comes back

1048
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: looking for some retribution from the egg he laid against

1049
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 3: Cyril Ghan last time out in Houston. We know now, Luke,

1050
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: it was the fifteenth anniversary of his release from jail.

1051
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 3: It was supposed to be this big moment. He froze

1052
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 3: and he got handled by Gone. Now he's got the upstart,

1053
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: ty Tooyvasa. We laid out the storyline. He's got a

1054
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 3: puncher's chance. He's in shape, Ty too Evasa. He's got

1055
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 3: a huge, you know, marketing potential. The odds have it

1056
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 3: plus one fifty two Evasa as the underdog, minus one

1057
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 3: seventy for Lewis as the favorite. Luke, I can't talk

1058
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: myself into a scenario in which ty wins this. As

1059
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 3: much as I love the guy, what am I gonna

1060
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 3: potentially say on Monday morning that I missed.

1061
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: Luke if he wins. And I agree with you that

1062
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, I think Lewis is the favorite and should be.

1063
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: But we both agree that to Evasa is dangerous. This

1064
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: is one of those critical junctures be seen. We see

1065
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: them all the time inboxing at and MMA. You see

1066
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: them all the time, where if you just like again,

1067
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: we judge matchups based on the information that we have right,

1068
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: and we always are working with limited information. But sometimes

1069
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: it's enough to make a judgment call that's correct, and

1070
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: sometimes it's not. In the case of Derek Lewis, you

1071
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: know more or less what you're getting right. He's got

1072
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: a long tenure thirty six years old. You've seen him win,

1073
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: you've seen him lose, you've seen him be good, you've

1074
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: seen him be bad. You got a pretty clear sense

1075
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: of how he wins and what he's up against and

1076
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: why he's good. But what are some of his limitations?

1077
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: We tied to Ivasa, we do have a sense of

1078
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: some of those things as well, but at twenty eight

1079
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: years old getting better in the way that twenty eight

1080
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: year olds do. The challenge for prognosticators is that those

1081
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: guys at those ages sometimes Marvin Vctory would be a

1082
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: case for me, we're between fights, they just get dramatically better,

1083
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: like just dramatically better. So what you'd be believing in

1084
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: is you've seen some of that ability marry that with

1085
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: improvements that you kind of have faith in existing but

1086
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: may not be there yet. You're banking on this guy's

1087
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: rate of improvement continuing and that being the difference maker.

1088
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: That may be a convincing argument for some of you,

1089
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: for others maybe not. But I think that's the central

1090
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: tension and play here.

1091
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 3: The problem with toy Vasa's four fight win streak. And God,

1092
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 3: he's such a perfect character, right, bam bam. We love

1093
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 3: the guy in every way, twenty eight years old. But

1094
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 3: the problem is, Luke, it's Stephan Struve by first round knockout,

1095
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 3: Harry Hunsucker by first round TKO, Greg Hardy by first

1096
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 3: round tkoh and.

1097
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: Freaking Augusto Sakai.

1098
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 3: It's a good win by second round knockout.

1099
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 2: It's a good win.

1100
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: I mean it got Actually, that's a better win than

1101
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: you're giving it credit. Trap that night world on fire.

1102
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: But he's a good fighter.

1103
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 3: It had trapped fight potential. It's the kind of fight

1104
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 3: you have to win to get to this point. But Luke,

1105
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 3: we've also seen ty lws to guys. You know, maybe

1106
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 3: he wasn't the best shape, maybe whatever, but we've seen

1107
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 3: him get decisioned by blog boy, even off by Sergey Spivak,

1108
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 3: subbed him out. God, I have not seen enough, Luke,

1109
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 3: I have not seen enough. So they both say it's

1110
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: gonna go less than one. They both say it's going

1111
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 3: to be a knockout. We know what They bring the table.

1112
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 3: Shout out to Tuivasa for creating the shoey vasa, Luke.

1113
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 3: He didn't get a chance, unfortunately, to try it out

1114
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 3: at the press conferences. They had a snaffo on getting

1115
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 3: Dana can of beer. How do you have a shoey

1116
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 3: vasa gimmick but nothing to pour it in?

1117
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: Luke? Yeah, I don't know about all that. I don't

1118
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: know about all that.

1119
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 3: I mean Mark ray Munday was on First or Our

1120
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 3: Sports Nation this morning pouring hot coffee into white sneakers.

1121
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 2: What's going on here, Luke?

1122
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: People have ruined the shoey all right?

1123
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean can you can you dull it? We

1124
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: did it too, so we're guilty as charge. Let he

1125
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 1: who is without sand cast the first stone. But I mean,

1126
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: can we just stop pouring hot sauce and fucking coffee

1127
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 1: and athletic greens into people's shoes? Just let him pour

1128
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: the beer in the shoe and fucking be done with it. Please?

1129
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 2: With all right, Luke, how does Touivasa win here?

1130
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 3: Does it. You know, Okay, God, if you could rustle

1131
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 3: Lewis for four rounds again, ask him out, he could

1132
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 3: stop him.

1133
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 2: No that he's not that guy. How does he win here?

1134
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 3: Luke?

1135
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: Is it?

1136
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 2: One punch?

1137
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: Is it?

1138
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 3: Let's make this as crazy a fight as it can

1139
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 3: be and try to catch Lewis tired and off balance.

1140
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 3: I mean, what's gonna happen here?

1141
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: First of all, you know, I don't know if that

1142
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: if the Spivac method of victory is one that tui

1143
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: Vasa could use. But here's the thing, what if tui

1144
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: Vasa has really been working on his wrestling. Not that

1145
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: I think that Derek Lewis has terrible defensive wrestling, but

1146
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: it's not it's porous, like you can get past it

1147
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: if you're a good wrestler, which we don't. You know,

1148
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: we don't have a ton of evidence that ties that way.

1149
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: But I'm wondering, like, you know, could he press him

1150
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: into the fence, maybe scoop him a double out and

1151
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: then you know, do some hammer work on top. That

1152
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: seems conceivable, if not exactly likely. But I wonder if

1153
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: he's been really sticking with the jab. I wonder if

1154
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: a jab could be a thing where if he could

1155
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: pop it and then kind of get Derek Lewis is

1156
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: good when people underestimate him and kind of try to

1157
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: bring the fight to him in an overly aggressive way.

1158
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: Like Chris Dawkas, for example, would probably want that fight

1159
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: back for some of those. I think he's very talented,

1160
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: but that probably wasn't his best showing. I wonder if

1161
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: Tui Vasa, though, could could learn from some of that

1162
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: really stick the behind the job. I know that's not

1163
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: what he's necessarily been doing, but again, I do think

1164
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: he is smart. I do think he is capable of

1165
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: some good work, and I think that if he can

1166
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: find a jab, it brings the overhand punches that he

1167
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: likes and some of the bigger hooks into existence and

1168
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: even more full throated ways. So again I'm gonna lean

1169
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: towards Lewis. We just know more about what he can

1170
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: and can't do. But I want Touivasa. He doesn't have

1171
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: to win here. He's got time. But show me development,

1172
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: show me you're adding to the game where you're not

1173
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: just a fun great brawler and you know a guy

1174
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: of promise in a vague sense, put that promise into action.

1175
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: Show us something. I think that's what I'm looking.

1176
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 3: For and look to be fair. As much as I

1177
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 3: love Derek Lewis and we all do, he's thirty seven.

1178
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: It's not like we haven't seen him have bad nights

1179
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 3: at the office where he's just not there, whether for

1180
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 3: the circumstances of the serial gonfight but Louke gassing out

1181
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 3: against Mark Haun the Jas stoppage, I mean, the kind

1182
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 3: of you know, gimme decision, you got to get into

1183
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 3: Leira latif that the generous decision, excuse me, after getting

1184
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 3: wrestled the whole time. I just think he has too

1185
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 3: much motivation at home to redeem that l he took

1186
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 3: last time out against God give me the first round

1187
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 3: stoppage for Lewis once he makes this a war in

1188
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 3: a fight, he's too powerful and his punches are short

1189
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 3: and compact when they need to be. Luke and I

1190
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 3: think that's gonna spell the ending for.

1191
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: Tou of oas you're probably right again. The thing is,

1192
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: I've been watching touy Vasa unembedded. It's not like I

1193
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: didn't like him before, but he's really come across, as

1194
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 1: you know, talked about his kid and everything. I do

1195
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: think that, like, you know, maybe I don't know how

1196
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: he got into the sport and how things developed. And

1197
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: I think he likes to shoey gimmick because he's a

1198
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: fun loving dude. That's part of his personality. But it

1199
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: also feels to me like he's having thoughts about where

1200
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: he wants to be in five years and he really

1201
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: wants to execute on that vision. So again, I'm gonna

1202
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: pick Derek Lewis. I think we just know more about him,

1203
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: but I am curious about ty Tooey Vasa. There is

1204
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: something special about him, something a little bit different. Maybe

1205
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: this fight will show up, maybe it won't, but he's

1206
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: definitely a guy to keep your eye on at least

1207
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: the next couple of years. And by the way, if

1208
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: he wins this one, dude, I mean you want to

1209
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: talk about an a rival moment, that is a huge

1210
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: win for him. If he catches itself, it's monster and.

1211
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 3: For it to be done, he's got to almost have

1212
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 3: a Juliana Pania moment in my eyes where he just decides,

1213
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 3: no matter what I get hit with, I'm not going down.

1214
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stand in here until I knock this guy out.

1215
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 3: I don't think it's physically possible. That's really my problem.

1216
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 3: But we've seen superhuman performances where people just decide, I'm

1217
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 3: not going away, Luke, It's happened. We have seen that,

1218
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 3: so maybe that's why the odds are so close. He

1219
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 3: brings a big punch. We'll see it Saturday night. Can't wait.

1220
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 3: Topic number three is the rest of UFC two seventy one,

1221
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 3: and Luke, you know, we talked just briefly earlier on

1222
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 3: Monday about the storyline and why this fight matters. You know,

1223
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 3: you're fired up for this middleway test potentially a number

1224
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 3: one contenders about Dana White, would not you know, green

1225
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 3: light that officially on Thursday. But it's Jared cannoneer a

1226
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 3: minus one sixty favorite against Derek Brunson at plus one

1227
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 3: p forty. You love the stories of both, but Brunson

1228
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 3: at thirty eight, a five fight win streak out of nowhere.

1229
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 3: He's taken the sport more seriously. He's leaning on his strengths.

1230
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 3: I mean, but Luke, my biggest problem as you handicap

1231
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 3: this fight, and believe me, the odds are close for

1232
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 3: a reason. These are two very good elite fighters. The

1233
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 3: style contrast is great but most of Brunson's win streak.

1234
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 2: Almost came with the with the narrative of the older.

1235
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 3: Wrestlers surprising the not fully formed prospect by just outworking

1236
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 3: him obviously Darren Hill and the submission he had, and

1237
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 3: really the attitude Brunson fought with that doesn't fit under

1238
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 3: that category. That's a great win that got him to

1239
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 3: this point. I don't think you're gonna be Cannoneer that

1240
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 3: way though. That's my concern here.

1241
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 1: You know what, it's an interesting point. So here in

1242
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: the case of Robert Whittaker we talk about. The change

1243
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: is that he made to his fighting style from the

1244
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 1: Adasannya loss, and all those changes have actually made him

1245
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: more dangerous to virtually any opponent you could possibly think of. Right,

1246
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 1: it's such an elevation that it applies to literally anyone.

1247
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean he'll beat out a Sonya, but you're like,

1248
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: that's definitely putting you in the best position to fight

1249
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: Auta Sonya, and frankly everyone else in that division what

1250
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: he's doing is better. In the case of Brunson, it's

1251
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: a little bit different. He has eliminated the kind of

1252
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: errors that he brought upon himself by having a more thoughtful,

1253
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: little bit slower, streamlined, focused game, and the results have

1254
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: been amazing. He beat Theodoro, Hiness, Shabazi and Holland, and

1255
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: to your point, he beat Till much easier than Robert Whitaker.

1256
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: All beaten in a very different kind of way. But

1257
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: that's where the rubber meets the road. It's like, for

1258
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: all those things that you did against Theodore who heinis,

1259
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: Shabazi and Holland, until are they going to work against

1260
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: a guy like cannon Ear. And I grant VC Hermanson

1261
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: is not the same kind of wrestler as Brunson. I

1262
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: am not comparing the two, but I will say that

1263
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: the scrambling that cannon Ear showed in that cannon eir,

1264
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: excuse me, in the Hermanson fight was excellent, really really good.

1265
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean it was urgent, it was fast, it was authoritative.

1266
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: He made clear decisions and then acted upon him and

1267
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: he knew exactly what he had to do. Well that

1268
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: helped him against a guy like Brunson. I don't know,

1269
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: but I'm with you. I share skepticism, not that he

1270
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: can't do that for three rounds. I think he can well.

1271
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: In other words, like will he gas or something. I

1272
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: think he can. I think he can. He can stick

1273
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: to that if it works for three rounds. But what

1274
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work. Cannoneer hurt Robert Whittaker on the

1275
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: feet in the third round. You know, if you can

1276
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: land on Whittaker, and by the way, after having his

1277
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: eye nearly shut, he was still landing on Whittaker. Brunson

1278
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: doesn't have those kinds of skills that we have seen.

1279
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: So I agree this is a takedown or bust kind

1280
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: of scenario for Derek Brunson.

1281
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 3: I think, you know, I just rewatched Canaan air Whittaker

1282
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 3: before the show today, and you know, I do think

1283
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 3: Whittaker thought he had a stoppage there.

1284
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 2: I think he thought Cannon there was more hurt than

1285
00:58:59,520 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: he was.

1286
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 3: And I shout to Jared knnon air bloody and on

1287
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 3: the bottom Luke at one point full mount. You know,

1288
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 3: he works his way back to his feet and then

1289
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: lands big strikes. But I think, you know, uh, Whittaker

1290
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 3: was unfortunately got himself a little gassy in that moment.

1291
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 3: But the point here is at thirty seven, Jared Knneer

1292
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 3: is showing me, like I said on Wednesday, I think

1293
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 3: he's gonna fight for a world title.

1294
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 2: I think he's still on that run.

1295
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 3: The Whittaker set back, Luke, you could say he started

1296
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 3: too late. I mean he finally had his first taste

1297
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 3: of real fight changing success late in round three. But Luke,

1298
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 3: those leg strikes he was landing throughout that fight. They're

1299
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 3: taking down many a guy they are. I mean Whittaker

1300
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 3: dug In took that shit like he did against Romero,

1301
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: But Cannon near Is he gives you too many reasons

1302
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 3: not to take him down. Luke, the threat of his

1303
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 3: punching power, the hard leg strikes. He's just a big dude.

1304
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 3: You're not gonna You're not gonna get a clenching trip

1305
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 3: him take him down.

1306
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: He's in a great spot.

1307
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 3: And I think I think he showed us against Gastolon

1308
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 3: that he really learned how to fill some of those

1309
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 3: holes in his game, that he showed the limit the

1310
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 3: limitations that he's showed against Whittaker. Do I think he

1311
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 3: can beat Whittaker out of sign yet No. I think

1312
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 3: he can get himself to a spot to face them

1313
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 3: again though, and have obviously a threat, And I think

1314
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 3: he's just better than the best version of what Derek

1315
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 3: Brunsley can bring so I think he stops Hi Luke.

1316
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 2: I think Cannoneer gets a stoppage when these within.

1317
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 3: These three rounds.

1318
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: And also, here's the other thing about Cannoneer. By the way,

1319
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: he's thirty seven. He's gonna be thirty eight in March.

1320
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: But even then, one thing that he brings to this

1321
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: particular fight really the middleway division. In a lot of

1322
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: his fights, he's pretty fast. Actually, he's pretty athletic, and dude,

1323
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: to your point, by those leg kicks, he's a physical fighter.

1324
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you could say what you want about what

1325
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: state Anderson was. Anderson Silvia was in the career at

1326
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: the time he fought cannon Air, but Cannoneer was fucking

1327
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: laying into him, dude. Cannoneer can thump, he can land

1328
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: with authority, Dude, that could have a major deterrent effect.

1329
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: And when you add in the good scrambling and athleticism,

1330
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: he's a he's a potent force. The only thing I

1331
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: would say is don't you agree though, like in the

1332
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: back of your mind, not just in the wrestling wrestling sense,

1333
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: but in terms of MMA wrestling, Brunson is better than

1334
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: Cannoneer in that respect. Okay, you're telling you it's a

1335
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: conversations right at that point, you're totally it's totally divorced.

1336
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: I just think we don't talk about too much about

1337
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 1: We often talk about these fights being functions of like

1338
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: skill difference, you know, uh, one person has more skill

1339
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: or less skill or the right kind of skills. We

1340
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: don't talk enough about athleticism. And I gotta say the

1341
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: athleticism of a guy like cannon Ere, I think is

1342
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: pretty special. And and I think we'll be relevant anyway

1343
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: in this particular contest.

1344
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 2: Check one two three.

1345
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 3: I think I had some I heard it wouldn't be

1346
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 3: it wouldn't be MK without some tech issues. Right. Hey,

1347
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 3: by the way, before I forget it, would you say

1348
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 3: attis Sonia is wow? Sorry, Attasnia's celebration of knocking out

1349
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 3: Whittaker is among the best we've ever seen in this sport.

1350
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 3: That how cool that freaking was with the full on

1351
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 3: Dave Batista machine gun and the and the dan and

1352
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 3: the the you know, the break into electric Google moves. Luke,

1353
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 3: that was pretty badass. Yeah, you don't celebrate badass moments enough.

1354
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 3: In the cage, Luke.

1355
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: All right, that's true. I agree with that. There should

1356
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: be more, all right, Luke.

1357
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 3: We talked a lot storyline wise about Roxam Matafari going

1358
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 3: into her final fight here as a plus three hundred

1359
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 3: underdog to end her fiftieth profight, to end what has

1360
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 3: been a pioneering, long suffering but a lot of highs

1361
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 3: in there as well, career Quebec from a seven fight

1362
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 3: losing streak in her prime. But Luke, something I teed

1363
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 3: up to you on Wednesday, but I don't think you

1364
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 3: fully took the bait. Twenty four year old Casey O'Neil

1365
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 3: seems to be a potential player in this weight division.

1366
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 3: She'll be a minus four hundred favorite from Scotland. Are

1367
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,919
Speaker 3: we looking at her more because of that incredible story

1368
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 3: about her.

1369
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 2: Losing a tooth?

1370
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 3: No, Luke, She's a damn good fighter. She fights nasty,

1371
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 3: she's great on the ground. How will this work against

1372
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 3: all the things Manafari does well to neutralize up and comers?

1373
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: Mona fairy is I would say her skill set lies

1374
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: perdu dominantly, like her best work is predominantly in grappling.

1375
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: I tend to think that's where she is a little

1376
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: bit most at home, So the question would be what

1377
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: can she do there assuming she gets on top of

1378
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: from her back. From her back, she does have a

1379
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: good guard, but I don't see that as like a

1380
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: winning or the best way to get a win on

1381
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: top she is actually she's a pressure passer. Would that

1382
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: could be a noteworthy path to victory. But you know,

1383
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: somebody like Casey O'Neil, you just sort of look at

1384
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: what she's done. You're absolutely right. All her fights in

1385
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: the UFC so far finishes and you know, Shinna Dobson

1386
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: and ANTHONYA. Chevchenko are not the very best that the

1387
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: division has to offer, but they're not scrubs either, like

1388
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: and she got past them both inside of two rounds.

1389
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: She has good finishing instincts. She has good finishing skills. Obviously,

1390
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: she's I think the much younger of the two. She's

1391
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: only twenty four years old, so I think she's gonna

1392
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: have a physical advantage as well. Yeah, dude, she is

1393
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: hard to handle.

1394
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 3: She's got an edge to her too. I like the

1395
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 3: nickname King Casey. I think there's something to watch here

1396
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 3: for sure. You know, three and oh since coming to

1397
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 3: the octagon, you mentioned the big names that she took

1398
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 3: down so far this outside of the retirement.

1399
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 2: Angle for Matafari.

1400
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 3: This is a very good sort of test to find

1401
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 3: out where Casey O'Neill is at Luke. I love the

1402
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 3: storyline surrounding that one. What fight forgets storyline? What's a

1403
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 3: really competitive XS and o's fight here that you're not

1404
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 3: sure who's gonna win?

1405
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: Great question. I am gonna say, well, it was the

1406
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 1: one that fell out was the Schnell versus Perez fight.

1407
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: That was the one I really had some hopes for.

1408
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: By the way, William Knight missed weight by twelve pounds.

1409
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: He has to give up forty percent of his purse

1410
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: forty percent of his purse. But I think the other

1411
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: one that I'd be paying attention to a little bit,

1412
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: uh is the Andrea Alofski and Jared Vanderoff fight. If

1413
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm pronouncing that correctly. We all know what Arlovsky does.

1414
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: It's the main event of the prelimb, so to speak,

1415
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: and we all know what he does. He's got this

1416
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: new style where he kind of slows the fight down,

1417
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: he stays on the move. He's constantly turning these guys

1418
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: and he gets these shots in slowly over time, and

1419
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: then avoid. It's the best work that they can do.

1420
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: It's such a great test. Are you a heavyweight worth

1421
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: paying attention to? What you got to get past this guy? First?

1422
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: That it's unbelievable that this guy had wars with Pedro

1423
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: Hiszo before UFC forty even and here he is at

1424
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: UFC two seventy one still doing quite literally relevant mma.

1425
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: It's it's just it's a miracle what he has been

1426
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: able to put together.

1427
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 3: You say he's the Roxanne Motifuri of the heavyweight division.

1428
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: No, because dude, he was a belt holder, like he

1429
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: really hit the highest level of this.

1430
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 2: Oh of course I know that.

1431
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 3: But I'm saying he's become sort of that slow the

1432
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 3: game down. You know. Mantafar's got that sneaky counter jab luke.

1433
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 3: You look like she's slow and can't hit a thing,

1434
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 3: and then suddenly she's in your face, backing you up

1435
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 3: at times.

1436
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: You know, she has worked on her striking. I didn't

1437
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: really mention that part. You're right, it's a little unfair

1438
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: to leave that out. To be clear, she has really

1439
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: worked on that, and I think it played a role

1440
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: in some of her more recent wins. But in fairness, Historically,

1441
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 1: grappling has been her base, and so that's why I

1442
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: bring it up.

1443
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, for that role, that old guy at the park game.

1444
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,479
Speaker 3: You know, like I was watching Luke the nineteen ninety

1445
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 3: nine NBA playoffs last night on YouTube. That's how I

1446
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 3: entertained myself and man Larry Johnson, you know, the four

1447
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 3: point play against the Pacers. He had such bullshit old

1448
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 3: man game at that point because he couldn't jump anymore

1449
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 3: because of the back injuries. Look, he's just banking stuff

1450
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:17,479
Speaker 3: in left and right.

1451
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: That's how I.

1452
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 3: Get down on the court, Luke, Okay, I make shots.

1453
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 3: You didn't think we're possible. I'll miss all the natural,

1454
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 3: wide open ones, of course.

1455
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: But you know, like when we did that, when we

1456
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: did that free throw contest that never made the light

1457
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:29,919
Speaker 1: of day.

1458
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, remember that.

1459
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: Wow, that was a good use of our time.

1460
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 2: Uh, Luke.

1461
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 3: We mentioned this quick on Wednesday, But you have to

1462
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 3: like this Bobby Green Nasrat Hawk Paross fight, and Hawk

1463
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 3: Paross looked like he was building something until he ran

1464
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 3: into Dan Hooker. He's a plus one twenty underdog against

1465
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 3: the minus one forty Bobby Green. Are you taking plus

1466
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 3: money here for nostrot?

1467
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: Uh? No, I'm a big believer in Bobby Green. I

1468
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: tend to think he kind of fights up to opposition

1469
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: and then down to opposition, depending on which way he goes.

1470
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: And Hack Parast is a guy who will stay in

1471
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: the fight the entire time and come forward. But I

1472
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: just feel like Bobby Green when he's on, and you know,

1473
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: we'll see because he can be a little bit inconsistent,

1474
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: but when he's on, he is a supreme talent. He

1475
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: can flow, he makes adjustments, he makes good reads, he

1476
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: is not afraid of anybody's offense whatsoever. And dude, he's

1477
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: a dog, Like if you want to have a dogfight,

1478
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: who'll have one of those with you too. So between

1479
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,439
Speaker 1: the fact that he's his gameness is not in question

1480
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: and then you actually kind of throw in the fact

1481
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: that he's kind of super underrated. I like Bobby Green

1482
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 1: a lot. I think very highly of him.

1483
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 3: And obviously sometimes you got to tune into that curtain

1484
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 3: jerker to open the car Luke, I don't know if

1485
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 3: is it six thirty pm Easter. I'm never sure when

1486
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 3: these fight cards start, I can tell you, but Atasania's

1487
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 3: teammate Blood Diamond, I think they're calling him that as

1488
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 3: not a nickname but a damn name.

1489
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 2: Wikipedia still has it as Mike Mathata.

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Speaker 3: Is that what you said?

1491
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure. Are limbs by the early early

1492
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: preblems and by the way started six.

1493
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 3: Okay, he'll be the Oldpening fight. It's a welterweightout and

1494
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 3: Blood Diamond is plus ninety one ninety I'm sorry against

1495
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 3: a minus two thirty five Jeremiah Wells. Is this just

1496
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 3: a he's got a good backstory and a cool nickname

1497
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 3: and he's out of Sonia his teammate or is it

1498
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 3: you know? Is Blood Diamond going to have his time here?

1499
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 3: Lucas he the next big ckb thing.

1500
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: I will be absolutely candid with you in the audience.

1501
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,560
Speaker 1: I have not in any way dedicatedly. I've seen a

1502
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: couple of his fights on the regional scene, but I

1503
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: don't really remember a lot about it. I don't really know.

1504
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be sort of the same position as you.

1505
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 1: Let's sort of see, wait and see what we got here,

1506
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: because you can imagine, like you know, how many guys

1507
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: from one camp can be super elite. I don't know.

1508
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to find out, but they got to

1509
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: prove it first.

1510
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 3: I'll have to have a caposa on the extra credit

1511
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 3: after today's show, Luke to break this down. I'm sure

1512
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 3: he's seen Blood Diamond at every stop along with By

1513
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 3: the way, you know, we got that guy Tim Boxao

1514
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 3: on Twitter.

1515
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 2: I love these just you know.

1516
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 3: The hardcorese Luke, I mean the the European streaming hardcorese Luke.

1517
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, there's there's a Hispanic kid that posts

1518
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: MMA jeffs from all around the world as well. He's

1519
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: pretty cool. I forgot his name.

1520
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 3: These are the guys that populate the ship, you see, Luke,

1521
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 3: Can I close up shop here? You got anything else

1522
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:16,839
Speaker 3: to say about UFC two seventy one on Saturday.

1523
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you should follow Barelle la Pierna. That's the guy.

1524
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: Barlet la Pierna is how it would sound to.

1525
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 3: You, said Charde.

1526
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 2: Is he Colombian?

1527
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 3: Luke?

1528
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 5: Is this?

1529
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 3: What's No?

1530
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 1: He's from He lives in Argentina, but he he is like,

1531
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: he's like the Argentinian Coposta. He posts a ton of

1532
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: cool shit.

1533
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 3: Absolutely all right. You don't have a best bet on

1534
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 3: the undercard. Jacob malcoun comes in over aj Dobson as

1535
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 3: a minus one h five favorite. That's it's your best bet, right, Luke.

1536
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 1: I guess I've not looked at the odds in that

1537
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: kind of way.

1538
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 3: Shout out to Heina Omoikano. We love that fight with

1539
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 3: Alexander Hernandez. Hernandez, by the way, came out and was like,

1540
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 3: why the hell is this on the early prelims, this

1541
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 3: fight rules. It's right, yeah, right, really does right there.

1542
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens, all right, Luke. Our final topic

1543
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 3: of the week is quick Hitters. Everyone loves that, Luke.

1544
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 3: Where we give We let lt get teed up and

1545
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 3: give an opinion on news of the moment. Luke, It's

1546
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 3: a fight this Saturday in England in the UK, It's

1547
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 3: an afternoon start one pm Eastern on his own. But

1548
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,759
Speaker 3: in the main event, Daniel Jacobs stays at super middleweight

1549
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 3: and takes on a game John Ryder, who at one

1550
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,719
Speaker 3: point looked like he was coming on as a potential

1551
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 3: dark horse title candidate contender. People think he got screwed

1552
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 3: over in that big fight against Callum Smith, which kind

1553
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 3: of stopped his potential.

1554
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 2: This is an interesting fight.

1555
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 3: Minus won sixty for Daniel Jacobs as the favorite, But Luke,

1556
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:41,759
Speaker 3: we saw Daniel Jacobs during the pandemic against Gay Rizzatto

1557
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 3: and you know Risotto kind of some people thought got

1558
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 3: screwed on the cards, and at the very least, whether

1559
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 3: Jacobs deserved that win or not, he didn't look like

1560
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 3: Danny Jacobs at thirty five. Luke is there's still a

1561
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 3: run for him. He's bringing back his original trainer and

1562
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 3: his uncle Andre Rosier, and bringing back some members of

1563
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 3: his original team, which he always seems to seem like

1564
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 3: a guy is going all in again in resetting.

1565
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 2: Do you have high hopes that he enters the.

1566
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 3: David Benavidez, Dimitris, andreid Canelo, Caleb Plant, Jamal Charlow won

1567
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 3: sixty eight sort of larger picture.

1568
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: It would be nice, like another big name that is

1569
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 1: doing their best work in the division would be fun

1570
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: to have. And I do think that Jacobs will win this,

1571
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: but I think it's going to be pretty close. I

1572
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: think ultimately the difference and this is what I again,

1573
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: to be clear, I'm not like I've been covering writer's

1574
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: career for years. This is all you know in the

1575
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 1: interest of transparency with the audience relatively new. But what

1576
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: I hear a lot about it was a pretty consistent

1577
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: theme when I was researching it. A lot of the

1578
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: experts think that, you know, Writer is the much better infighter,

1579
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: but a getting into distance is going to be a

1580
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 1: bit of a problem against a guy as slick as

1581
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 1: Danny Jacobs one and two. He's as a consequence, Writer

1582
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:59,839
Speaker 1: is just more hittable, you know. For me, for Jacobs

1583
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 1: to lose that fight, he's got to be a little

1584
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: bit past it, which you could argue maybe he could

1585
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: be or whatever. You know, I Jacobs is definitely again

1586
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: a game to a game. He's the slicker and I

1587
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: think the better of the two. The question is are

1588
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 1: you getting a game to a game? I don't know.

1589
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 3: We'll have to say, well, it's worth the question. He

1590
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 3: didn't throw enough punches against Rosotto. He was gun shy.

1591
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 3: He ended up Luke in the interviews this week saying, Hey,

1592
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 3: the lack of a crowd in that Risotta fight during

1593
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 3: the pandemic really messed with him. He's excited now to

1594
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 3: go to the UK, where, of course the crowd's gonna

1595
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 3: be nuts. It's Eddie Herd Metroms sport card. Yeah, he's

1596
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 3: gotta let his hands go. He's got to be the badass.

1597
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 3: That he actually is, and he's had obviously great career

1598
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 3: story beating cancer, winning a middleweight world title, go in

1599
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 3: the distance against Triple G to end that knockout streak,

1600
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 3: maybe being a couple fifteen twenty punches away from making

1601
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 3: it interesting against Canelo, but we'll see if he bounces

1602
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 3: back Rider plus one thirty. If you like underdogs, he

1603
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 3: can get inside, has Luke said, and push a good pace.

1604
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens. Luke. We had an interesting exchange here.

1605
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 3: So Sean Porter does the podcast called The Porter Way,

1606
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 3: and you know, I love that guy. But he had

1607
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 3: a very interesting take when they were counting down their

1608
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 3: top five welterweights of the moment following Keith Thurman's victory

1609
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 3: h just recently, and Porter went on a run saying,

1610
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 3: Jaron boots Ennis maybe the next big thing. I welter

1611
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 3: Wade is quote overrated. He said, this is why I

1612
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 3: say he's overrated. Everyone is so hyped up on him,

1613
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 3: but he hasn't been in the ring with any world

1614
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 3: champions yet. Don't forget that. I'm the dude that said

1615
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,600
Speaker 3: he's the closest guy to Roy Jones. I said that

1616
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 3: on the record, and I believe that end quote, Luke,

1617
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 3: this was like this was which.

1618
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: Is pri which is it? Which is an sp I

1619
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 1: love Sean Porter, but which is it? Is he?

1620
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 3: Like?

1621
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 2: Is he angling here?

1622
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 3: Because this like, what do you The absolute backbone of

1623
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 3: what he's saying is not completely untrue even though Boots

1624
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 3: is coming off, you know, great wins over over to

1625
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 3: Thomas de Laura maya former, you know, a high level contender.

1626
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 3: But no, he hasn't beat one of the champions yet.

1627
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 3: So I get saying let's hold the phone on, giving

1628
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 3: him the keys to the Kingdom and saying he could

1629
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 3: beat Spencer Crawford until.

1630
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 2: He starts beating people.

1631
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 3: I get that. I don't know, but there seemed to

1632
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 3: be some like angle in what Sean was saying, And

1633
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 3: of course the clip got around to Boots Ennis and

1634
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 3: here was his response on Twitter. Luke, I heard you,

1635
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 3: Sean Porter say I was overrated. You was just saying,

1636
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 3: I'm ready and too much of these guys, loll too

1637
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 3: much for these guys, and you said you won't fight me,

1638
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 3: but keep that same energy. Though, if I'm so overrated,

1639
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 3: come out of retirement and fight me. Now people retire

1640
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 3: and I'm overrated, So Luke. I do catch the clips

1641
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 3: from Sean's podcast, and I'm a big Sean fan. And

1642
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 3: he had mentioned that he had thought about retirement, going

1643
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 3: back to the Spence loss right when that decision was read,

1644
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 3: he was considering going back to the locker room and

1645
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 3: trying to break it to his dad that he was done.

1646
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 2: He hung on for a few more fights.

1647
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 3: Great performance against Terrence Crawford, but he's walking away on

1648
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:58,759
Speaker 3: his own terms while he still kind of has it though,

1649
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 3: is there any party that sees this as Sean Porter?

1650
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 3: Maybe I just play a little little Salt Bay seed

1651
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,679
Speaker 3: in there, just just a little you know, hey, maybe

1652
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 3: I would come back for the right money to teach

1653
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 3: this kid a lesson.

1654
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't know if I don't know

1655
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: if he would come back for the right money, per se,

1656
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what that's about. But Jesus Christ, But

1657
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 1: what I would say is, I might pick do you

1658
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 1: pick Boots in Us to beat Sean Porter.

1659
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 3: It'd be great, it'd be a great test.

1660
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. It's like I just might because Boots is

1661
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 1: that good. Although I grant Sean Porter is extremely good

1662
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 1: as well, So there is that. But but the point

1663
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make here is No, he hasn't. Has

1664
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: he beaten the kinds of names that that that Porter

1665
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: is observing. He hasn't beat Porter is right in that sense.

1666
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: But dude, dude, A, these motherfuckers don't want to fight them.

1667
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 1: Let's just be very clear about that. They don't. They

1668
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 1: No one wants to lay down and have to be

1669
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 1: the guy that Boots made his name off of. But

1670
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,080
Speaker 1: one of them is eventually going to be that one.

1671
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: And so the thing I think Sean Porter is doing

1672
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 1: is a having a kernel of truth and then just

1673
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: trying to get his podcasting a broadcasting career off to

1674
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 1: a hot start. So, you know, God bless him for it,

1675
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 1: but I completely disagree.

1676
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 3: Oh, it is a way to get people talking. It worked, Luke,

1677
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,560
Speaker 3: But it did work. Spencugas coming up in April. I

1678
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 3: think the report out there is that it's going to

1679
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 3: be a Showtime pay per view Allo. Showtime has not

1680
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 3: formally announced it, Luke, but that was the Boxing scene report,

1681
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward to that one. I love this division.

1682
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 3: It's gonna be some fun fights this year.

1683
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 2: Luke.

1684
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 3: Also the biggest women's boxing fight in history in terms

1685
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 3: of stakes, and all that is obviously going to go

1686
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 3: down April thirtieth, MSG, when Amanda Serrano takes on Katie

1687
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 3: Taylor for all four of Taylor's lightweight world titles. Luke,

1688
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 3: here's something interesting that came out of the press tour

1689
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 3: that they just did. They did it in New York,

1690
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 3: they went overseas to the UK. During that, Serrano said,

1691
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 3: we're making the biggest payday both of us. I think

1692
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 3: we should continue to make this fight iconic, make changes

1693
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 3: in this game. If Katie Taylor is willing and I'm

1694
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 3: ready and able to make this an equal fight. Twelve rounds,

1695
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 3: three minutes per round, Luke, Obviously, that's something we're all

1696
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 3: calling for at the highest level. Why do we have

1697
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 3: these limitations? Why, you know what, why would you have

1698
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 3: two minute rounds in ten round championship fights. It doesn't

1699
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 3: make sense. It stalls certain things from playing out, It

1700
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 3: prevents knockouts in a lot of senses. I love that

1701
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,759
Speaker 3: Amanda Serrano, the fighter here, is like, look, all things equal,

1702
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 3: this is the biggest fight ever, Let's make it big.

1703
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 3: But Katie Taylor said, I don't think it'll make a

1704
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 3: huge difference to this event. It's already as iconic as

1705
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 3: it is, Luke, do you think Katie Taylor's pressure style

1706
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 3: is better off against the big puncher Serrano with two

1707
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 3: minute rounds in a ten round distance.

1708
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 1: Well, Katie Taylor notably declined right, doesn't want a three minute,

1709
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 1: twelve round fight, so should be noted. Listen, It's not

1710
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 1: like Katie Taylor suffers for volume, you know what I'm saying.

1711
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 1: It's not like that's a weakness or something in her game.

1712
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 1: It's a strength. Any it's a complete strength. But I

1713
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody can Matt If if there's anyone

1714
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: who can match, frankly exceed that volume, it's probably a

1715
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: man of Serrano. There is absolutely, in my mind, an

1716
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 1: element of nobility to what she is trying. She is right,

1717
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: they should be three rounds, and the big one should

1718
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 1: be twelve three or three minutes excuse me, then twelve

1719
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 1: rounds and you know the full sense that all the

1720
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 1: men get. However, it is probably also if we should

1721
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 1: just point this out, she wouldn't be doing it if

1722
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 1: she thought it was a significant strategic disadvantage. I think

1723
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: she probably views it, rightly or wrongly, as an ultimate

1724
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: advantage for her in this particular case, and so that's

1725
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: also behind her effort here. So that's to me why

1726
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 1: Katie Taylor declined it. I think Katy Taylor wants that

1727
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 1: the two round mark because she does great volume work

1728
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 1: as well, but she wants it in that space.

1729
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 2: She's look so round.

1730
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 3: It's the bigger punchery. Even though she's won titles in

1731
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 3: seven divisions from like one eighteen to one forty or

1732
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 3: one thirty five or whatever, she's the bigger puncher. Historically.

1733
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 3: Taylor's a volume, in your face, great technique combinations. This

1734
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 3: setup favors her. That's that's what it comes down to.

1735
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, Luca Max Holloway got

1736
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 3: cleared medically and he announced that he wants to be

1737
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 3: the backup to the upcoming Alexander Volkanowski title defense against

1738
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 3: the Korean Zombie. But hold right there, says Volkanovsky on Twitter.

1739
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 3: He came out and said at Blessed MMA, wants to

1740
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:24,919
Speaker 3: be the backup fighter for the fight he was originally

1741
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 3: scheduled to fight, so, in other words, he was never injured,

1742
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,719
Speaker 3: just hoping he doesn't have to fight me or fight

1743
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 3: me while I'm preparing for someone. But hey, if you

1744
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 3: ain't cheating, You ain't trying emoji and no, Luke, is

1745
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 3: he right? This is this is this is.

1746
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,480
Speaker 2: A loaded, loaded take from Volkanovsky.

1747
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 3: But is it? Could he be right?

1748
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, if you can't get the benefit of

1749
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: the doubt on injury after what Max Holloway has done

1750
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 1: in his career, then you cannot get the benefit of

1751
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: the doubt on injury ever. I mean, he has Max

1752
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: Halloway's record of dealing with physical punishment or pulling out

1753
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 1: of fights or whatever. We all know famously the time

1754
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 1: he was on whatever show was UFC tonight when it

1755
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: was still on FS one, and Michael Bismain was like, dude,

1756
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:11,560
Speaker 1: you look all right, and they had to pull the

1757
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 1: fight in the whole nine yards and they still don't

1758
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 1: even know what the hell that was. And they had

1759
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 1: to do that to Max. He didn't want to pull out. Dude.

1760
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: If Max is not able to compete in fights, or

1761
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 1: at least he doesn't think he is, he probably has

1762
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 1: a really good medical reason for that. I understand high

1763
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 1: level champions, in the case of Volkanovsky, putting themselves in

1764
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 1: a competitive mindset where they would want to say these

1765
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 1: kinds of things and think these things about their opposition.

1766
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 1: And yes, it could be possible that Max could get

1767
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,639
Speaker 1: some kind of benefit by sliding in at the last

1768
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 1: second strategically or whatever. Right, he could have some wrinkle

1769
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: that Volkanovsky couldn't prepare for something. But dude, if you

1770
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 1: can't give Max Holloway, who has been in the trenches

1771
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,759
Speaker 1: of all trenches, the benefit, who can.

1772
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,759
Speaker 3: Well would this have not been a thing if Max

1773
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 3: came out and said, hey, guys, I'm medically cleared. Dare

1774
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 3: UFC no disrespect to the Korean Zombie, but let's just

1775
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 3: go back to the original plan.

1776
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 2: I'll slide in. I'm cleared now. Would that all we tried.

1777
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just weird. If he's back, why are we

1778
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 3: doing this? You know, Zombie doesn't necessarily deserve this right now.

1779
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:18,560
Speaker 3: It was a like, you know why he was put in.

1780
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 3: There's gonna be an interesting fight whatever, there's a threat.

1781
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 3: But if you can make this trilogy, mate, Look, I

1782
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 3: have a feeling we don't see this trilogy because sometimes

1783
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 3: that happens in this game.

1784
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 1: It does happen. Korean Zombie's got great boxing. You just

1785
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 1: never know. Styles make fights absolutely.

1786
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 3: Luke Anthony Pettis has made the rounds this week, and

1787
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 3: not only with the announcement that he's coming back for

1788
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 3: a second PFL season, but that his first card as

1789
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 3: promoter goes down tonight. SHOWTIMEFC is the name of the promotion.

1790
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 3: It'll air on UFC Fight Pass. The card will take

1791
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 3: place at the Jenkins Arena in Lakeland, Florida. This isn't

1792
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,640
Speaker 3: as big as the recent Habib comes to America. This

1793
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 3: is day one for the new promotion, and he's, you know,

1794
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 3: he's he's looking to be what they are, a potential

1795
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,759
Speaker 3: strong region promotion that can build potential UFC fighters.

1796
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 2: I had him on Morning Combat.

1797
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,719
Speaker 3: It turned out to be a very fun chat about

1798
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 3: you know, his legacy and all that stuff.

1799
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 2: I encourage people to check it out.

1800
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 3: But here's Anthony Pettish talking about transitioning mid career or

1801
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 3: the end of it, at least to the promotion side

1802
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 3: of the game. When did this dream sort of pop

1803
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 3: into your mind to get into this and not wait

1804
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 3: until retirement but start it right now. Yeah. I actually

1805
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 3: had this plan for a while.

1806
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 5: You know, I think it came from my brother's career,

1807
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 5: you know, seeing where Sergio is at, you know, the

1808
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 5: belitar tamp of the world right now now kind of

1809
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 5: helped him, guided him in his career decisions, if you will,

1810
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 5: you know where he fought when he fought, what way

1811
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 5: class he was playing at. So I kind of was

1812
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 5: playing that role in his career already, you know, kind

1813
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 5: of like manager promoter, you know, making sure he was

1814
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 5: taking care of well.

1815
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 1: And we have great agents as well, but you know,

1816
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 1: I was playing that.

1817
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 5: I saw that side of the business and I think

1818
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 5: it started when I was like sixteen years old. I

1819
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 5: opened my first Taekwanda gym in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and I

1820
01:22:57,080 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 5: saw the entrepreneur mindset. You see, like, man, I can

1821
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 5: make as much as money as as the work I

1822
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 5: put into this. And then fighting kind of led that

1823
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 5: to to be true. You know, all the work I

1824
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 5: put in and I led to this position here now

1825
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 5: with the with the fighting show, It's like, now I

1826
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,640
Speaker 5: can give these guys a way to get into the

1827
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 5: bigger shows.

1828
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 3: Luke, he's a he's a business man. You got to

1829
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 3: give him credit that he seems to have a firm

1830
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 3: handle on his you know, post fighting future while still

1831
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 3: able to be a big name in PFL and you know,

1832
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 3: go after fun fights and try to make a run.

1833
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 3: Is this is this a trend you see happening? This

1834
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 3: this uh, you know, fighter the face of the promotion thing. Uh?

1835
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:45,719
Speaker 3: And is there enough room for this many regional shows

1836
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 3: to work? Luke your thoughts on this this move for

1837
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 3: one show?

1838
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 1: I think it's I who the hell knows? I don't

1839
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 1: really know. I have a feeling that the UFC is

1840
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 1: making a larger play about gobbling up feeder leagues for

1841
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 1: the UFC. Like, uh, let's you know, I don't know

1842
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 1: to what extent they've If you're on fight Pass, you

1843
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: get a production budget, So that's a big help for

1844
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 1: any would be promoter, and especially if you can be

1845
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 1: on fight Pass, which you have accessed to all the

1846
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 1: UFC fans and everything else. But I you know, like

1847
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 1: for example, with these UFC gyms, when they brand them

1848
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 1: with a particular fighter, whether it's like Cob Swanson or

1849
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 1: Michael Bispin or even Pjpenn, they get some royalties associated

1850
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 1: with it. I don't know how the financial arrangement works.

1851
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 1: All I can say is, dude, on the regional scene,

1852
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,719
Speaker 1: most promoters I know make jack shit to very little.

1853
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 1: So like I know that Eagle FC or at least

1854
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: I've been told. Eagle FC is like majorly bankrolled and

1855
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 1: has a ton of money, so that might explain the

1856
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 1: way they're able to do things. But I just want

1857
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: to warn folks. My experience with most shows on the

1858
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 1: regional scene is the guys who stick around a long time,

1859
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 1: they make a thin but consistent profit, but it's not

1860
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 1: been like a bonanza to get rich, not even close.

1861
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 1: Most of these guys go out of business pretty quickly.

1862
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:54,839
Speaker 1: So I would be curious to know what the financial

1863
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 1: arrangement is that he believes he can confidently make a

1864
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 1: bunch of cash, because that's not been my understanding. But

1865
01:24:58,960 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 1: maybe the game has changed.

1866
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 3: Well. Of course I asked him Luke about fighter pay,

1867
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:04,600
Speaker 3: not only in the sense that you know, he was

1868
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 3: a free agent who went elsewhere from the UFC, and

1869
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 3: you know he's going to be a promoter whose job

1870
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 3: is to pay the fighters. So I think we've got

1871
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:15,759
Speaker 3: a one final piece of content here from Pettish talking

1872
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 3: all things fighter pack.

1873
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 5: It's a challenge. It's all a challenge, man, you know,

1874
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 5: like you know, all the fighters talk about fighter pay

1875
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 5: and they talk about, you know, being treated differently, and

1876
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 5: it's different when you actually step up and try to

1877
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 5: like make that happen. And That's where I'm at right now,

1878
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 5: you know, because myself as an athlete, as a fighter,

1879
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 5: you know, I'm still currently fighting. I'm I'm kind of

1880
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 5: the figurehead for these guys that are on my show

1881
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 5: to be treated fairly, to be to.

1882
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 1: See how it's supposed to be done.

1883
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 5: You know, when I when I came up in these ranks,

1884
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 5: I was fighting in uh, you know, bars in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, whatever,

1885
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 5: smoking cigarettes while I was fighting. You know, it was

1886
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 5: like it was like it was a free for all.

1887
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 5: So now I'm just trying to bring a little more

1888
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 5: structure to it. Th there's other athletes and other fighters

1889
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 5: doing the same thing as well, which is I respect it. Man.

1890
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 5: The more the more opportunities we have as fighters that

1891
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 5: we can come together, the better it is from sport.

1892
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 3: All right.

1893
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 2: Look, hopefully we can give back a little with that

1894
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 2: thin line that.

1895
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, just to be clear, like when

1896
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 1: we talk about fighter pray, Yeah, what the guys make

1897
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 1: on the regional scene is you know, it's criminals. There's

1898
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 1: not much, but I keep going back to it, dude,

1899
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 1: they don't make a lot of money, like if people

1900
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 1: don't if you don't have a TV contract of some kind,

1901
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 1: and you don't have a like a loyal fan base

1902
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 1: that buys tickets at the door, Dude, Like, where are

1903
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 1: you supposed to make money, especially like post COVID or

1904
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck we're gonna call it COVID times where

1905
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 1: it can be really hard to get either of those,

1906
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 1: you know. The I'm sure Pettis will do the very

1907
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 1: best that he can, and you know, we'll have to

1908
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 1: see how things go. But the argument about pay is

1909
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:39,799
Speaker 1: not at like, oh, we should you know, hold regional

1910
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 1: promoters hostage who barely are making any money.

1911
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 2: Those billionaires hostage.

1912
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1913
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. The argument is about the dudes who have the money. Yeah,

1914
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 1: that's that's the pot we're trying to get more equitably arranged.

1915
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 3: Well, look, you know what I love about Regial Mma.

1916
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 3: Anything can happen, So we'll see what happens showtime FC today.

1917
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,839
Speaker 2: Hey, maybe something happens there that ends up in Mondays.

1918
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 3: Have you seen this show? It's got to be the

1919
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 3: goal of every local promoter. Luke, we got some bellachor

1920
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 3: fight announcements in that March twelfth card has been announced

1921
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 3: main event A number one contenders about at featherweight as

1922
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:16,759
Speaker 3: Adam Boritz takes on Mads Burnell, Phil Davis versus Julius

1923
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 3: Anglicas and the Comaine couple other decent fightsunder Alex Pueasy

1924
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 3: Polizi taking on Jose Augusto that's the guy that took

1925
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 3: Rumble Johnson into a war Luke and came through. Does

1926
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 3: that March twelfth card, You got any feelers on who

1927
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 3: comes out and top in the featherweight division. It's an

1928
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 3: interesting fight.

1929
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 1: So that the Burnell and Borich fight, that is a

1930
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 1: phenomenal fight because Borich obviously came out like a bat

1931
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 1: out of hell and then had a couple of setbacks

1932
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 1: and is now trying to work to pass the setbacks.

1933
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 1: And it's still young and very very, very very talented.

1934
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 1: This is a good fighter. But we all know Mad's Burnell,

1935
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 1: one of the guys who you know, didn't quite have

1936
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 1: his best showing in his time in the UFC, but

1937
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: is a very good grappler, very well rounded. Both of

1938
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 1: these guys training at good camps. That's a hell of

1939
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 1: a fight, I have to say, though I don't hate

1940
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: the Angliscus Uh and Davis fight in the sense that

1941
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, Oh, it's the worst fight ever. I don't

1942
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that. But that's an interesting choice. Is

1943
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 1: that the headlining fight. I believe that's the one that's made.

1944
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like it's it's kind of.

1945
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not overly fan friendly, but let's see if

1946
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 3: Alicas can can bounce back from from the loss in

1947
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 3: the UH in the tournament. Just the same as that.

1948
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: Just doesn't have fireworks written on it at all. That

1949
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 1: one is probably gonna be a little dull, candidly.

1950
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 3: Phil Davis is still he's still able, he's still got

1951
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 3: a name. But I'd like to see.

1952
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 1: Phil Davis is the Here's the thing, both the dude

1953
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 1: and Davis, they're good dude, those are good fighters. That's

1954
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 1: a good fight in the sense of are these two

1955
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 1: worthy adversaries? And this is these are high level fighters,

1956
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 1: of course, but styles make fights. Both guys are a

1957
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 1: little bit hesitant with their offense, and that just can

1958
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm glad it's three rounds. I'll put it down.

1959
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, give me the full Coker PEPSI. I don't want

1960
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 3: to stop and shop Brancola. Here, bring it, Phil Davis, Luke,

1961
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 3: you mentioned Mads. We're now seven fight win streaks since

1962
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 3: leaving the UFC. Has won all three Beltour bouts, including

1963
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 3: a three round decision over Manuel Sanchez, former two time

1964
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,639
Speaker 3: title challenger. So those are that was a very good win.

1965
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 3: Borich is a tough out, Luke, A lot of fanfare

1966
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 3: for this one. When May six, when Beltur goes to

1967
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 3: Paris for Ryan Bader check Congo two your companying event,

1968
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 3: expect fireworks. Expect a large combined total age between the

1969
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:34,759
Speaker 3: two fighters. When Joel Romero and Melvin Manhoff touch gloves

1970
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 3: in a light heavyweight bout, Luke, I feel like that

1971
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 3: should have been Yoel's bellatour debut. Right, give him a

1972
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 3: potential body and a fun all action fight, not put

1973
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 3: him in there with the wrestler Phil Davis. But you know.

1974
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 2: This will be This will be fun.

1975
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 3: It won't be criminal.

1976
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 5: Right.

1977
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:54,080
Speaker 2: We won't see man who like get knocked out for

1978
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 2: the fifth straight time.

1979
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 3: Right.

1980
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, I mean I don't know, like

1981
01:29:57,080 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 1: candidly dude, man who's been fighting a while, like he's

1982
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 1: had taken a lot of damage. The thing is, I

1983
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 1: just don't understand this matchmaking. It's like, okay, is there

1984
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 1: a possibility where a Romero gets cut kot Yes, unlikely

1985
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 1: but possible. Uh. And then on the other side where

1986
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 1: Romero could get a big win over you know, an

1987
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 1: opponent who has taken a lot of damage. Yes, but

1988
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 1: if you're gonna I'm with you. If you were going

1989
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 1: to do that, that was the fight that should have

1990
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 1: been made upon his entry into the organization, which they

1991
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 1: gave him Phil Davis, and he just didn't look right

1992
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 1: the whole time. The other part is, dude, Like I mean, candidly, Donald,

1993
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if Manhoff should be fighting. Honestly, He's

1994
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 1: had a lot of damage. Man. So that's got by.

1995
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 3: Corey Anderson and his debt bel tour debut recently exactly.

1996
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, it's it's Romero could shine here,

1997
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,640
Speaker 1: which I think is probably the objective. But it's a

1998
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 1: strange fight.

1999
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 3: If they were both washy, this could be a like

2000
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 3: a it could be one of those fun fights, Luke

2001
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 3: that just turns out to be.

2002
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 1: But manhuff, that's the other part too, Like, dude, if

2003
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 1: Romero loses this fight like that would be bad. That

2004
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 1: would be a bad sign about his aging at this point.

2005
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 3: So we'll see to be fair manhoff Is two in

2006
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 3: three in his last five. Look. Sometimes it's all or

2007
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:07,640
Speaker 3: nothing with that guy, and that's why we love him.

2008
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 3: That's why it's fun to watch. But we'll see what

2009
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 3: happens here quickly, Luke, does it move you? On May fourteenth,

2010
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:14,719
Speaker 3: UFC fight and not giving you? Angela Hill versus Verna

2011
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 3: Jandie Roba.

2012
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 1: Yes, Jeangi Roba or how do you pronounce her name?

2013
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 1: Has proven to be, you know, not the very best

2014
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 1: in that division, but given the very best hard time,

2015
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 1: she has good finishing skills. She has dedicatedly worked on

2016
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 1: the part of her game outside of grappling. Yeah, that's

2017
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 1: a tough fight for Angela Hill, no doubt about it,

2018
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 1: No doubt about it.

2019
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 3: The picture of herself on the MMA hour set, Luke,

2020
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 3: because she came out to that Island Boys theme song

2021
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 3: her last way. Congrats Finally, Curtis Blade's Chris Dakas in

2022
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 3: a heavyweight fight UFC Columbus, March twenty six. Heck yeah, Luke, right.

2023
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:55,680
Speaker 1: I thought they would have given Blades to gone, So

2024
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 1: it's a little interesting that they didn't. I guess that

2025
01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 1: they wanted to. Just I guess Blades didn't want to

2026
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: wait or be gone's taking some time. Who knows, because

2027
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 1: that to me seemed like a very interesting and potentially

2028
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:07,600
Speaker 1: a challenging fight for God giving Curtis Blaze's skills, But

2029
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 1: same kind of rule for Chris Dawkas. Chris daucas Is.

2030
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 1: You know, we saw what Derek Lewis can do. Could

2031
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 1: Chris Dawkas do something similar? Maybe you don't think so,

2032
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 1: but it's still a dangerous fight. Or Curtis Blaze is

2033
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 1: just gonna win and be like, I'm still that guy

2034
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 1: that you know is at the top of this division

2035
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:24,560
Speaker 1: and is still hungry for an opportunity against the very best.

2036
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 3: Luke. Maybe I thought your Sean Preisher could look like

2037
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:29,560
Speaker 3: you're shouting out the p ones out there in the

2038
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:31,679
Speaker 3: MK universe in a way.

2039
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 1: In a way, you're like, Yo.

2040
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:36,719
Speaker 3: Aaron from Washington, my guy. You know what I'm saying.

2041
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 3: I got Land Jeger for days?

2042
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:40,800
Speaker 1: Luke?

2043
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 3: All right, Luke, everything not everything we say into the

2044
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 3: microphone each week is correct or appropriate to be fair,

2045
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 3: But unlike other shows, we take ourselves to task. We

2046
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:55,600
Speaker 3: stand in front of that mirror and we allow Morningcombat.

2047
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 3: At gmail dot com, the email entry point for Wednesday's

2048
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 3: fan subs and Fridays did row All right, Look, this

2049
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 3: segment has become much maligned, almost as much as the

2050
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 3: fan slubs on Wednesday, but you and I like to

2051
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 3: give the people a chance. Craig, Sam and Jordan sliding

2052
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 3: in on Wednesday show at the start, before he did

2053
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 3: the embarrassing hump day motion, Luke said, it's February ninth,

2054
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 3: twenty twenty. It's actually twenty twenty two. But with COVID

2055
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 3: no one has idea what day or what it is anymore,

2056
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 3: so let him off.

2057
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 1: Luke fare, Yeah, I'll take that out. I get the

2058
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 1: date wrong probably more than anything, so yes, that's.

2059
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 3: Fair, all right? Kai k why Kai k y jelly

2060
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 3: Kai from Ontario, Luke says. On Wednesday's episode, at one

2061
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 3: eighteen fifty seven, Luke refers to Francis and Ganho's imaginary

2062
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:59,640
Speaker 3: purse of two point eight million plus pay per viewpoints

2063
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:04,600
Speaker 3: from our over Under segment as potentially generating four or

2064
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:08,520
Speaker 3: five million for Francis. He claims this is quote literally

2065
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 3: orders of magnitude greater than what Francis has been getting

2066
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 3: even at the low estimate of six hundred thousand per

2067
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:18,679
Speaker 3: fight to qualify for quote orders of magnitude, it would

2068
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,719
Speaker 3: have to be sixty million at a minimum, as six

2069
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 3: million would only be a single order of magnitude greater.

2070
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 3: It's always great to call out Luke for bastardizing the

2071
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 3: English language because you can see it strike him to

2072
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 3: the core of his soul. But the real reason I

2073
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 3: submitted this dead wrong was to say that BC definitely

2074
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 3: made the classic mistake of showering for far too long

2075
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 3: this morning, because he looks swashed as fuck. Ah ah,

2076
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 3: hi from Ontario. Luke, will you take that?

2077
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 1: L Yes, I will take that. I'll hold that.

2078
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 3: L Oh boy, Wow, that was a little nerdy.

2079
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 2: I didn't know there be math on this one.

2080
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 1: But uh, by the way, like he just shits on

2081
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 1: me with the entire thing and then just blindsides you

2082
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:00,839
Speaker 1: like a fucking away car.

2083
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I do look a little washy over the

2084
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:07,879
Speaker 3: zoom cam Luke, Okay, maybe it's maybe it's just the cam.

2085
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 3: Grec says the honorable Luke Thomas was dead wrong an

2086
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 3: MK's inaugural High Court segment when listing the accolades of

2087
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 3: Michael Bisbing while highlighting the you guys have to realize

2088
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 3: how high Luke was while highlighting the reasons Bisping should

2089
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 3: be in the Hall of Fame.

2090
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 2: Luke said it.

2091
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 3: Took Bisping twenty six octagon appearances to finally win under

2092
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 3: speeded gold, claiming this was the most in UFC history. However,

2093
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if Luke misread the UFC's Wikipedia page

2094
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 3: or something, but this distinction actually belongs to Charles Olivera,

2095
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 3: who won gold in his twenty eighth Apparently.

2096
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 1: It was the middleweight division. I think that he holds

2097
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 1: that record.

2098
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 3: Probably, yes, probably, Luke. Jean Mark is here from Montreal.

2099
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 3: Luke Brian keeps talking about Whittaker fighting fifteen rounds since

2100
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 3: first facing at Asnia.

2101
01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 2: Of course that's inaccurate.

2102
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 3: Bobby Knuckles fought thirteen after losing his title as the

2103
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 3: Cannoneer fight was a three rounder, Yes it was. That

2104
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 3: was the pay per view comin event to Uh what

2105
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 3: was it, Luke?

2106
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:13,720
Speaker 1: The hell was it it was? I don't know all

2107
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 1: right either, do I?

2108
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 2: Uh?

2109
01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 3: There's nothing that says BD like getting your facts straight

2110
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 3: all my best juhn Mark John Mark, Yeah, I guess

2111
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 3: I'll hold that. Ol Okay. I told way to Curry

2112
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 3: fought fifteen rounds. He only fought thirteen, Luke, what we

2113
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 3: were trying to mention was UFC two fifty four. That was,

2114
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:36,640
Speaker 3: of course u Haabib versus justin Gae Cheet, Luke, we

2115
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:41,919
Speaker 3: know what happened there in Abu Dhabi. Okay uh Finally, Luke, finally,

2116
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 3: this is from Jordan on episode two fifty eight, one hour,

2117
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 3: thirty minutes, fifty five seconds.

2118
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 2: Aloha, BC.

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Speaker 3: In the have you seen the ship references Round five

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Speaker 3: of Holloway versus lamis of course, Luke, that was UFC

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Speaker 3: one ninety nine where Holloway points to the ground to

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Speaker 3: invite the slugfest within the last ten seconds and MEBC

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Speaker 3: in the forum that night, Luke, that was a moment

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Speaker 3: that Mexican American boxing crowd in southern California, they were

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Speaker 3: loving that shit.

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Speaker 2: Good memory.

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Speaker 3: Other than that, there was no round five, BC. It

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Speaker 3: was a three round fight. Good job holding down the

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Speaker 3: fort though for two weeks while Luke was gone, yeah,

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Speaker 3: thank thank you. I agree with that. I brought it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, what was it your flavor of

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Speaker 3: tea at the end of the day, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: And what are you an earl Gray guy liked to

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Speaker 3: get up on Earl Yeah, well, you know, all right, Luke,

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Speaker 3: how do we transition out of that?

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Speaker 2: Luke?

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Speaker 3: Sunday of course is Super Bowl l v I.

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Speaker 6: Bengals, Yeah, Bengals versus Rams, and of course, Luke, Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 6: the QB of the Old Cincinnatis, follows Morning Combat on Instagram,

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Speaker 6: so shout out to that.

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Speaker 2: Look, do you know I was reading up on Joe Burrow?

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Speaker 3: Of course, Heisman Trophy, Winter National Champion, first round pick,

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Speaker 3: first pick overall. Two years ago that Luke, his youth coach,

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Speaker 3: reached out to his parents and was like, he has

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Speaker 3: a poise to him in big moments that I've only

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Speaker 3: seen before in like serial killers and like you know,

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Speaker 3: first responders, a calm under pressure and ability to navigate

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Speaker 3: tough wash.

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Speaker 2: Luke, it is reminiscent to me under.

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Speaker 3: The bright lights broadcasting when it's time to go, BC

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Speaker 3: gets psychopath on you, he gets sociopath, he brings it.

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Speaker 1: Can we end the show?

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Speaker 3: Look? Prediction who he got? You don't care.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who they're gonna win because I don't

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Speaker 1: watch enough Bengals or Rams to know, but I'm hoping

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Speaker 1: that the Bengals win.

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Speaker 3: Do you have plans, Luke, you got a big super

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Speaker 3: Bowl party? Is they're gonna be like some welbyan food

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Speaker 3: and stuff.

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Speaker 1: I was supposed to hang out with a friend and

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Speaker 1: his family for Super Bowl, but we had a little

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Speaker 1: visit last night, and you know, he didn't know what

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Speaker 1: he was doing. And so I think he's still mad

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Speaker 1: at me.

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Speaker 2: So do you think did he utter at all these edibles?

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Speaker 3: Nain' shit it? And then later regretted that Luke did

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Speaker 3: that happen.

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Speaker 1: No, he didn't taunt. He didn't taunt. But they call

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Speaker 1: it getting smacked for a reason because he got fucking smacked.

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Speaker 3: So so you're saying that those were those were the

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Speaker 3: ship those? Yeah, Okay, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was quite a show. It was quite sure.

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Speaker 3: All right. Well, shout out to you and your people,

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Speaker 3: Luke Armenian and uh and shout out to the Indians.

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Speaker 1: Luke. Right, we got it in the show. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're really just gonna get us in trouble at this point.

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Speaker 1: This is time to know you're no one. Is time

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Speaker 1: to exit, and it's time to exit, all right, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, Uh, my name is Brian Campbell. That was Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Malka show time CBS Sports all the

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Speaker 3: labels that will be removing us from this job soon.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Gaff Pierre on the ones and twos.

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Speaker 3: You can follow us at the addresses below. You can like, please,

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Speaker 3: please like the video and subscribe. The subscriber numbers they

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Speaker 3: the higher they go, the higher we get, Luke. That's

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Speaker 3: probably true, right, that's very quite true.

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Speaker 1: Actually there's a correlation there that is that is undeniable.

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Speaker 3: All right, all that, and then so I'm tall, pale

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Speaker 3: and handsome signing off is your boy BC. You know,

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Speaker 3: buy our you know all that good stuff. But at

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Speaker 3: the end of the day, enjoy the fights this weekend,

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Speaker 3: enjoy this middleweight madness. I cannot wait Saturday night, Luke,

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Speaker 3: Will you be on afterwards for an MKIA.

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Speaker 1: Post fight show right here lives soon as the main

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Speaker 1: event for UFC two seventy one is over, come on

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Speaker 1: back to mk and we're gonna have a nice post

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Speaker 1: fight show. Can't wait.

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Speaker 3: And obviously Monday, we'll we'll, we'll, we'll take those storylines

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Speaker 3: and extend them forward and bring you a loaded show. Luke.

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Speaker 3: You and I going back to the old bomb shelter

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Speaker 3: in a couple of weeks so get excited people.

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Speaker 1: Yes, excited about that, not next week with the week after.

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Speaker 1: Should be fun, all.

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Speaker 3: Right For Luke Thomas, I'm your boy BC, reminding you

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Speaker 3: that we love you. Take good care of yourself. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we're getting through this winter. We're almost done. We got

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Speaker 3: two more words for you. Oh shout out to Bob. Second,

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Speaker 3: but I mean a head kit. What happened here, Luke?

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Speaker 1: I mean dammed it, bumped his head and went to sleep.

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Speaker 1: Is that not frightening? And it shows you just how

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Speaker 1: fragile this all is. It broke my heart to read that.

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Speaker 1: So terrible, so terrible. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: On that note, we out