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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: It is hollow weekend. We've got a full moon. We've

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Speaker 1: How you doing tonight?

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Speaker 2: I'm great, Ty. It was a wonderful day of craziness

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Speaker 2: in college football across this great land. A crazy couple.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we had Friday Thursday action that was great.

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Speaker 2: play but not finish games. It was great. I have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was look, as we were discussing here before

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Speaker 1: We have an awful lot to get through. Welcome on

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Speaker 1: you enjoyed your weekend. Over the next hour, so we're

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Speaker 1: football Week nine, the highs, the lows, the fire starters,

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Speaker 1: Shall we start with our fire starters?

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Speaker 1: The big fire starter. The big story of the week

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Speaker 1: was Kansas knocking off Oklahoma. Kansas knocked off Oklahoma thirty

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Speaker 1: eight thirty three. It was a dreary day in Lawrence, Kansas.

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Speaker 1: And you know, a lot to discuss here in terms

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Speaker 2: Yeah. This was so. This was a great game for

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Speaker 2: Hopefully we were watching this game with people who care

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Speaker 2: Oh like that, Jason Bean. Though there was a lot.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many teams you want to count.

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Speaker 2: It makes it a fascinating conference.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more. All right, where do you want to go?

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Speaker 1: Where do you want to go next? Dan?

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Speaker 2: Let's talk Oregon Utah. Let's talk the stream game, just

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Speaker 2: because between two ranked opponents and I think meaningful?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this game specifically, Oregon's a way better college

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, we're gonna get playoff rankings. I believe

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Speaker 1: but they did not.

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00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: Faither played its best game this year.

436
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: Probably not, Okay, you still feel like there is a

437
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 1: lot more in the tank on the Ohio State side.

438
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: It turned it over three times, but again they get

439
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 1: enough out of their defense, which is really good. They

440
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: only allowed two hundred and fifty nine yards. They lean

441
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: on Marvin Harrison Junior, who's a freak and really good.

442
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: Had two toughs.

443
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: There was like running the plays they ran against Penn

444
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 2: State and it worked again.

445
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 1: It worked again, and Trevion Henderson was back, which is good.

446
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: And between the collective talents of those two guys on offense,

447
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 1: they were basically able to pull away from Wisconsin and

448
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: win twenty four to ten. Now, depending on when you

449
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,360
Speaker 1: got the line, you may or may not I've hit

450
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 1: your Wisconsin bed again. In some places it was fourteen

451
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 1: and a half. In others it was fourteen, but this

452
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: was a game that was pretty close late. It was

453
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: pretty close late. There was the long run at the

454
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: end that sprung Ohio State and gave them the two

455
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: score lead and put this one on ice. Wisconsin has

456
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: an injury Braylan Allen. We will find out more about

457
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: that one, I suspect over the next couple of days,

458
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: but that would be a bummer for the offense. The

459
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 1: offense as a whole is kind of a rough watch. Yeah,

460
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: to say, I got it. So I know this is

461
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: the warm fuzzy segment and we're supposed to be.

462
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,719
Speaker 2: Like, so give me something. I think the warm fuzzy

463
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: from this game specifically is Ohio State running the ball,

464
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: Trevon Henderson bursting through lanes and looking like the running

465
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: back Buckeye fans miss dearly.

466
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: Can I tell you, I'll tell you what the warm

467
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: fuzzy is. Yeah, the warm fuzzy is this. And this

468
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 1: is speaking as a Penn State alum. Okay, this is

469
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: speaking as a Notre Dame fan. This is speaking as

470
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: just a fan of college football who is from frustrated

471
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: week in and week out when the teams that are

472
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: out there can't figure out a way to get the

473
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: balls to their best players. Ohio State does not have

474
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: that problem. Okay, they may have had that problem early

475
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: as Kyle McCord was growing into the role, but what

476
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: you're seeing happen is they just throw the damn ball

477
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 1: to Marvin Harrison Junior and he catches it pretty much

478
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: wherever he is on the field. Now they've got Trey

479
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: Henderson back, right, We've seen Chip train him have a

480
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: pretty good run. Mine Williams we've seen him have a

481
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: good run as well. Ohio State is very good at

482
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: getting the best players on the offense the football and

483
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: would you believe it, that's why they keep winning. That's

484
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: why they keep winning. The defense is very solid, but

485
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: it's their best players making big plays on offense that

486
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 1: gets them enough separation. I still would like to see

487
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: him blow out a team like Wisconsin by fifty points.

488
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: I feel like they're good enough to do it. I'm

489
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: not entirely sure why they haven't, but that aside, you'll

490
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: take the win and they're still undefeated.

491
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also feel like Kyle McCord, if he's what

492
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: the second best quarterback in the conference behind JJ McCarthy,

493
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 2: would be like the eleventh best quarterback in this conference.

494
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 2: In most other years, it's just the Big Ten is

495
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 2: a terrible, terrible conference overall. Offensively, Yeah, the big thing

496
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 2: in this game to me was Ohio State not playing

497
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: particularly sharply. But eventually, I mean, I thought Wisconsin at home,

498
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 2: I used the phrase like fire under their helmets for Georgia.

499
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: I thought the defense came to play like there's only

500
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: so much anybody can do against Marvin Harrison Junior and

501
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 2: some of the weapons on this offense. And it was

502
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: nice to see Denzel Burke back on this Ohio State defense.

503
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 2: But I thought the effort and the forcing of the

504
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 2: turnovers and being in the right place when Kyle McCord

505
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 2: inexplicably decides to throw the ball into the end zone

506
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 2: as he's falling out of bount like, you know that

507
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 2: any quarterback who is throwing that ball, you know that

508
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 2: is ending poorly. You just know it is. When they

509
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 2: throw it two and a half seconds too late, you're like, nope,

510
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: you know this isn't going well. And it didn't. But

511
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: the fact remains that I think that's a warm fuzzy

512
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 2: for me is Wisconsin in knowing that they weren't going

513
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,719
Speaker 2: to be able to generate a ton on offense that

514
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 2: the defense really did play out of its mind for

515
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: a good chunk of this game.

516
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ohio State Man, Ohio State, Key's rolling. The point

517
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: totals probably aren't as high as you are accustomed to

518
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: with the Buckeyes, but they've been really solid on defense.

519
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: Something like one in seven against like hitting the over

520
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: this year.

521
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. So also in the Big Ten or I'm fussy

522
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,719
Speaker 1: Northwestern baby, Yeah, buddy, Northwestern. Let's talk about the Cats.

523
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 1: The Cats are four and four. They beat Maryland today.

524
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,719
Speaker 1: Brendan Sullivan got his third straight start for the injured

525
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 1: Ben Bryant. It was really good. He was really good.

526
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: They've got a lot of work to do their Northwestern,

527
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,479
Speaker 1: but Northwestern has a legit shot of going to a

528
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: bowl game. And I'm not sure they get to six

529
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: and six, but the fact that we are going to

530
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: be going into Week ten and they're in a spot

531
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: with their four and four is a hell of a story.

532
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 2: And I just I saw the graphic that was like

533
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: the last time Northwestern scored twenty plus points in the

534
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: first half against a Big Ten opponent, and in my

535
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: head I was hearing like the old Glenn Miller North

536
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 2: Notre Dames, like, oh my god, the cat stick the field,

537
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 2: it's nineteen fifty, like that's what it felt like. Really

538
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: good Win, and I suppose it's not September anymore. Turps.

539
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: Give me a warm fuzzy on your end.

540
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's go. Okay. I have already said Oregon everything.

541
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: UCLA's defense, Ucti's offense turned the ball over four times

542
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: and they still comfortably beat Colorado and we're all over

543
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders. That was really nice to see from UCLA's

544
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 2: defense as they occupy a sort of gray area among

545
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: good but not great teams in the Pac twelve. It

546
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: was their homecoming. They were wearing the throwback Jersey's very

547
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: literally cool to see. I'm gonna save my my Rocky

548
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 2: Lombardi picture show with USC col for most of that.

549
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: But Marshawn Lloyd is quietly putting together a really impressive

550
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: season for USC. So credit where it's due. USC has

551
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: run the ball really well. South Carolina transfer Marshawn Lloyd

552
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 2: has hit lane's hard and has been very good as

553
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 2: a home runner home run hitter for this Uscan.

554
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: He was like the yellow car in RC pro am

555
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 1: on that long touchdown run at the end. He just

556
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: like found it an entirely different gear that I don't

557
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: think I've seen anybody hit so far this season, and

558
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: blew the Cal defense away incredible, and.

559
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 2: So did Jada. Not by the way, for Cal with

560
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 2: his unorthodox running style. He runs high and I like it.

561
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: It's very fun to watch. And Cal always wears the throwback,

562
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 2: so I'll appreciate that as a warm fuzzy when they

563
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: play against USC. Also in the PAC twelve, Stanford showed

564
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: a ton of fight at home.

565
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: Again.

566
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 2: It was Elik a Omannor who went off against the

567
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: Washington defense and will save a Rocky Lombardi horror whatever

568
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: for another part of the Stanford game. And Washington look good.

569
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: Michael Penix again looked good. A little sloppier, but I

570
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: mean they have a very specific offense and it was

571
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: lightning against Stanford. How about ASU taking care of business, Ty,

572
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: I think we both took the sun devils here.

573
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: We did.

574
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: ASU taking care of business against Wazoo, the koog second

575
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: straight road game. It was near the end of the game.

576
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: I don't have the final number, but it was something

577
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: like eight tackles for a loss from ASU. They were

578
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: hounding Wazoo and they were getting off the field. It

579
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: was a balance. Tretton Borget was really really good going

580
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: downfield Camp Scataboo once again, Elijah Badger, this is not

581
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: what ASU is going to look like next year in

582
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: the Big twelve, in a couple of years in the

583
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: Big Twelve. And Kenny Dillingham is absolutely a master chopped

584
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: chef right now with what he is working with at ASU,

585
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: between the transfers and injuries. To come away with a

586
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: win like that to me easily the best two win

587
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: team in the country, not even a question. So that

588
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: gives me a warm fuzzy for ASU.

589
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: Wow.

590
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if you want me to go directly

591
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: to the SEC right now or do you want to

592
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: go more Big ten warm fuzzies? How are you feeling well?

593
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Big twelve, Okay, Big twelve,

594
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: and I'm just going to group the Big two together

595
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: into one long paragraph here, because the Big twelve had

596
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: two groups of teams. They had teams taking care of business, which,

597
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: as we've said in this show, is underrated. And then

598
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: we had Oklahoma, which lost but the biggest upset of

599
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: the week, and of course we already talked about that one,

600
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: but the rest of the games were kind of a thumping.

601
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: We had KSE State shut out Houston forty one zip,

602
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: Iowa State sort of sat on Baylor. I texted a

603
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: a little bit with our friend Peter Pope about that game,

604
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: and he had some choice words about Baylor. But Iowa

605
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: State has found its way after a bit of a

606
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: rocky start, and they've looked pretty good. West Virginia had

607
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: a really impressive performance on the ground. West Virginia to me,

608
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: might be the warm fudsy of the year because after

609
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: an entire offseason of doubting Neil Brown, of him being

610
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: the number one name on the hot seat, of people

611
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: dogging him because all he ever says in the offseason

612
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: as well, we got to make more changes. It seems

613
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: like the plan might have worked this time around because

614
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: coming into the year they only had basically two strengths.

615
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: One was offensive line, the other was running back, and

616
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: they built the entire plane out of it, and they've

617
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: been very good at doing it. They've been very very

618
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: good at doing it. So West Virginia gets a win

619
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 1: over UCF. That was a game that you know, frankly,

620
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: I think I was all in on UCF. I still

621
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: was not taking West Virginia seriously. That was a really

622
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: nice win.

623
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: Derrek Green in and out, hurt, beat up, coming back

624
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: really strong, had.

625
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: Had three touchdowns on the ground. Yeah, I mean, just

626
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: a really strong effort from West Virginia. And far be

627
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: it from me to leave my Oklahoma State pokes out

628
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: of the party.

629
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: Baby, that's true.

630
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. They ran away and hid from Cincinnati and

631
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: she's not good. Who's not good? I say Cincinnati is

632
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: the worst team in the Big twelve. Yeah, But the

633
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: fact that Oklahoma State looked as impressive as another big

634
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: game for Ali Gordon. Something clicked after their bye week.

635
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: I am not fully expecting them to beat Oklahoma this

636
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: coming week when the game is in Stillwater, the Bedlam Game.

637
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: I do think this was the last good opportunity you

638
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: had to bet on Oklahoma State. That's why I made

639
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: it one of my picks. But that game next week

640
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: is gonna be really important in the Big Twelve because

641
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State now is working its way up the standings

642
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: because they've been on a bit of a tear here,

643
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: So kudos to them, and last, but certainly not least

644
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: like Texas Texas. Texas was dominant. Texas was dominant with

645
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: its defense and with Jonathan Brooks on the ground. A

646
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: lot of the pregame narrative was around the leak Murphy

647
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: getting the start. Malik Murphy was fine. Yeah, I honestly

648
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,239
Speaker 1: thought we would get more out of him, but it

649
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: was his first start. We'll have to wait and see

650
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: on the health of Quinn viewers, if he can go

651
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: next week. I believe they've got a big game against

652
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: k State that will obviously influence the line in a

653
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: pretty significant way. But for real Texas and the way

654
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: that they are playing defense now, all too often the

655
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: conversation around Texas was they're soft. They're soft on defense,

656
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: They're not tackling, they're not doing the basics that. Well,

657
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: this defense is different. It's taken a little bit for

658
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: Sark maybe to get his mentality in there among the

659
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: locker room. I don't know what it is, but it

660
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: seems like the guys that he's got there now are

661
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: playing a style of football that is more physically imposing

662
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: and it's having a pretty big impact.

663
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned the Kansas Tate game. That's going to

664
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: be a challenge. The defense is likely I don't know

665
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: if they're gonna have to win that game, but they're

666
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: going to have to show up in a big way.

667
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: And beyond that, they're not going to need a ton

668
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: from their defense against TCU. With a beat up offense

669
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: Iowa State's offense, they could lose Iowa State, but it's

670
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: not going to be because Iowa State and rockebec are

671
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: bombing it down the field. And same goes for Texas

672
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: Tech and how beat up they are. So it's a

673
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: great place to be for a potential Big twelve championship

674
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: if they're if they end up there for a big

675
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 2: Bowl game, a playoff matchup, whatever, But yeah, they're they're

676
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: built really really well. What he got in the SEC, Oh,

677
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: I got a lot of warm fuzzies. Can we just

678
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: start with Dylan Samson for Tennessee. Here's what I wrote

679
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: down for Dylan Samson under warm fuzzies, a lot of

680
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: fun wiggle. I'm uncomfortable saying it, but I'm saying it.

681
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: So I just I love guys like that where it's

682
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: just like, oh, he's more coordinated than everybody trying to

683
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: tackle him. Really fun to watch. Joe Milton had a

684
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: pretty good game. I was just impressed by Tennessee on

685
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 2: the road. That's a tough matchup against that Kentucky defense,

686
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: against a Kentucky offense which wasn't necessarily going down field

687
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: a ton, but you could sense that like Robinson and

688
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: Dane Key and like guys were making plays, guys were

689
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: getting open kind of underneath Ray Davis was making plays

690
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: both on the ground and through the air. That like

691
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 2: it was a game that Tennessee could have easily lost.

692
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: And I thought they were really well coached. They maintained,

693
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 2: they sat on that lead, and they pulled it out,

694
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: and there is something about just again taking care of business.

695
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: And Tennessee closed really well. And Dylan Samson with that

696
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: fun wiggle was the highlight for me.

697
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: Fun wiggle, anything else, fun wiggle.

698
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 2: That's what I wrote down. I have the big dudes

699
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 2: from Texas A and m as warm fuzzies. They completely

700
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: hounded South Carolina on both sides. To be clear, I

701
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: thought the offensive line, which has been kind of struggling

702
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: these past couple weeks, they did a nice job and

703
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: look they should do a nice job at South Carolina

704
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 2: whatever and their struggles up front, but they actually came through.

705
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 2: I thought the inside of the line was you know,

706
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: came through well enough. You know, Max Johnson still took

707
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: his hits. But it's always going to happen, even with

708
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: like the nineteen ninety five Dallas Cowboys offensive line in

709
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 2: front of Max Johnson. Anaia Smith obviously is like mister

710
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: warm fuzzy. He was making plays all over the place.

711
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: And so Texas A and M, and there is like

712
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: kind of like a factoid about Texas A and M.

713
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 2: That doesn't get me warm and fuzzy here. I don't

714
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: think they've scored a second half offensive touchdown in thirty

715
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: five days. It's been a minute, Bob, It's been a minute.

716
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: But otherwise, if we're all to agree that it all

717
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 2: starts up front with you know, greetings from the Pollock family,

718
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: and Texas A and M took a step in the

719
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: right direction on offense. They've already been showing it on

720
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: defense and they're getting healthier on defense too. So that

721
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: was a warm fuzzy for me in their comfortable win.

722
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: South Carolina spent sixty minutes of hoping that Spencer Rattler

723
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't get called for intentional grounding. It was just a

724
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: series of plays where he vaguely intentionally grounded. Yes, and

725
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: he was running for his life the entire game. I

726
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: think it was ten tackles for loss, something of that nature.

727
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: Four sacks for the A and M defense. They were

728
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: in the backfield all day.

729
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Otherwise in the SEC. How about peyton Thorn. Peyton

730
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: Thorn played well, It's Mississippi State. It's really tough not

731
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 2: to play well against Mississippi State with how bad Mississippi

732
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: State's offense has been in sort of hanging its own

733
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 2: defense out to dry. It was another Mikey Right game,

734
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 2: as Will Rogers is still hurt listed as week to week.

735
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 2: But peyton Thorn was accurate. Jar Quest Hunter was predictably

736
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 2: good because he is just a good player. But peyton Thorn,

737
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: they have not been able to throw the ball at all.

738
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: Peyton Thorne was accurate, threw the ball. Well, that's a

739
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: warm fuzzy if you're an Auburn fan. Who if you're

740
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: an Auburn fan, it's been a minute since you've had

741
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: a quarterback that has made you feel good. So a

742
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: nice outing. A win is a win, is a win

743
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: good for good for Auburn.

744
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: Over in the ACC. If I can move place to

745
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: the ACC n C State be Clemson.

746
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: At a certain point, we're not going to call it

747
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: an upset though, right I'm not.

748
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm not even calling it an upset.

749
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: I'm just saying on the CW, especially.

750
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: On the CW, has had you want to talk about

751
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,479
Speaker 1: the occult forces. Yeah, of Halloween in the full moon.

752
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: The CW has had some weird games this year. Yes,

753
00:37:52,640 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: and NC State was ten point dog against Clemson ends

754
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: up winning twenty four to seventeen. I love kc Conceptsion,

755
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: Kevin Conceptsione Okay, one hundred and thirty four yards, two touchdowns.

756
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: He was also the team's leading rusher with fifty one

757
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: yards on a long run. Clemson dan not giving me

758
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: the warm fuzzies. Decidedly not giving me the warm fuzzies.

759
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: Now they are four and four. It is entirely possible.

760
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: We talked about this a little bit when we were

761
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: doing the stream. It is entirely possible that Clemson misses

762
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: a bowl game this year. I'm not saying it's likely, right,

763
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: it's on the table. It is on the table. They've

764
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: got Notre Dame next week. Then Georgia Tech, who you know,

765
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: we'll talk about Georgia Tech in a second, Georgia Tech

766
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: beat UNC. They've got North Carolina as well, and they've

767
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: also got a road game against South Carolina to close

768
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 1: out the year. South Carolina won that game a year ago.

769
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 1: This is a version of Clemson that is not beating

770
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: Notre Dame and it is probably not beating North Carolina.

771
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: The South Carolina game could be a toss up. In effect,

772
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: the Georgia Tech games a must win just to get

773
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: to a damn Bowl game.

774
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 2: And Georgia Tech is looking pretty good.

775
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: They're looking pretty good. Yeah, and I'll get to that

776
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: in a second. It's just the offense has no juice.

777
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: It actually reminds me a lot of the Penn State offense.

778
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: It's Penn State with more turnovers, right, And in this

779
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: one there was a costly pick six in the third

780
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: quarter off tip pass like Will Shipley got hurt made

781
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: with the second quarter.

782
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: There's just the warm fuzzies. Time give me the NC

783
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: State warm fuzzies.

784
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: The NC State warm fuzzy is Kevin Concepcion. Okay, that's

785
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: the warm fuzzy. The other warm fuzzy in the ACC

786
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: I have a couple of them, but the other big

787
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: one is Haines King. Oh Man, Haines.

788
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: Literally put people on his back and dragged them across

789
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 2: first down markers to win this game. It was great.

790
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: It has taken him a little while to kind of

791
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: find his way at Georgia Tech, but he's a gamer man,

792
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: He's a gamer. Three seventy seven in total yardage, four touchdowns,

793
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: the big, huge home win over North Carolina. In many ways,

794
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: we saw North Carolina, the old North Carolina defense come

795
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: back for an encore in this game. They gave up

796
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: over six hundred yards, including two hundred and fifty ish

797
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: on the ground in the fourth quarter to Georgia Tech.

798
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: But in the end it is a big play not

799
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: from Haines King, but from the Georgia Tech defense, the

800
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech defense, the secondary in particular that leveled tes

801
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: Walker When he caught a pass that would have set

802
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: up perhaps a scoring drive that would have tilted the

803
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: favor of this game in a much different direction. Tes

804
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: Walker was down for a while. He kind of limped

805
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: off and so hopefully he is okay. It's been a

806
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: rough go for him this season. But just like all

807
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: due credit to Haines King and Georgia Tech and Brent

808
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: key and they play hard, they play hard. Maybe the

809
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: record isn't where they would like it to be. They

810
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: play hard, they play hard, and this was a pretty

811
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: big win for him.

812
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: So there's just a lot of growers right now in

813
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: the AC, right big time there. Look between Boston College

814
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: now NC State, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech. By the way,

815
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: how about that warm fuzzy from I think it was

816
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: Friday night. Yeah, just absolutely demolishing Syracuse. Nothing warm and

817
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: fuzzy about Syracuse right now. Miami held on. Come on,

818
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: that's a warm fuzzy.

819
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: We'll get to that's not a warm fuzzy. No, Look,

820
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: they want a game. We'll get to that later at home.

821
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 1: If you want to do warm fuzzies in the AC,

822
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: if you want attack anything more wrong, Let's tackle on

823
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: Florida State Louisville. Okay, let's tack them on because FSU

824
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 1: throttled Wake and Louisville sat on Duke. Yeah, they sat

825
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: on Duke on the Florida State side. It was impressive

826
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: because they were down a couple wide receivers, including Johnny Wilson.

827
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: They didn't skip a beat. They didn't skip a beat.

828
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: It was their fourteenth straight game scoring more than thirty points.

829
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: You look at their schedule, it's hard to find another loss.

830
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: It's a Pitt, It's Miami, it's North Alabama.

831
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 2: Hold on, did Pitt keep it within sixty five of notreed?

832
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: They did keep it within sixty five.

833
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: Anything can happen, baby, Anything can happen.

834
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: Louisville seems like the team that Florida State's going to

835
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: play in the ACC title game. They controlled the game

836
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: with Duke on the ground with Jawar Jordan, and defensively

837
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: with their defense, they did a really good job. Duke

838
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: ran exactly zero plays in the red zone in this game,

839
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: and they had just two hundred and two yards on

840
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 1: the day. And Louisville's in another advantageous spot with their schedule.

841
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. Virginia They're at Miami to close out their

842
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: ACC schedule. So you feel pretty good about those two

843
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: teams the rest.

844
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: I don't want any part of Virginia Tech. Baby, Come on,

845
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: I'm saying baby a lot right now. I'm channeling my intervincepot.

846
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

847
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 2: They're in a great spot. They're looking very solid, they

848
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: look really well coached. They look like they've been together

849
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: for three years rather than like eight games, so Louis

850
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 2: was in a nice spot.

851
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: And the only other thing I want to call out

852
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: is Jordan Nuban. Yes, for Minnesota, forty carries two hundred

853
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: and four yards. He's a third street running back who's

854
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: a converted safety and got the start because of some

855
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: injuries and was the workhorse.

856
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Darius Taylor's been out for a while, Minnesota's been

857
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: looking everywhere for offense. I saw, by the way, just

858
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: on that topic. I think it was in the Cal game.

859
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 2: Cal was running a back who the announcer said, he's

860
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: not even on the depth chart. We don't see him

861
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,479
Speaker 2: in the roster. And I always appreciate with a guy

862
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 2: like that, just like, oh I can find a lane

863
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 2: running outside zone? Sure, yeah, and that that counts. So yeah,

864
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: ACC has been really fun.

865
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: Shall we get to the Rocky Lombardy horror show?

866
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: I have a can I do warm fuzzies from quickly?

867
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: Like G five?

868
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: Oh? Oh yeah, of course, I just come on, ty, yeah, no,

869
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: do it? Do it?

870
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: No erasure here? Okay? Utsa undefeated in the American four

871
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: and oh after beating ECU, who isn't that they good

872
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: this year? But Frank Harris to Josh Cephis was very

873
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: very good, an awesome all purpose effort for Blake Watson

874
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 2: at Memphis. They went over North Texas, who has a

875
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: fun offense and no defense. SMU was up fifty two

876
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: to three at the half, wet score one hundred going

877
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: to score holding fuzzy, Tye, that's not just a warm fuzzy.

878
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: Tulane held on despite a big Rice comeback. That's nice.

879
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: Keep winning, Tulane. They're fun. I like you know, all

880
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: things Green Wave, big boise second half and their win

881
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: over a Wyoming team that still has no offense but

882
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: still manages ways to win. Played both quarterbacks. Jinty got

883
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: hurt early on, but they still won comfortably over Wyoming.

884
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 2: New Mexico State Bowl eligible.

885
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, fuzzy.

886
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 2: They are four straight wins for the first time since

887
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: two thousand and two for Jerry Kill and New Mexico

888
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 2: State Liberty is still undefeated with a comfortable win over

889
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 2: Western Kentucky Rich Rod against Mike McIntyre, an old school

890
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: Pack twelve matchup. Jacksonville State ran and ran, and ran

891
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: and ran, and now they're seven and two in their

892
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: first season as an FBS team. And Georgia Southern over

893
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: Georgia State modern day hate. Uh the Eagles snap a

894
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: three game losing streak to Georgia State. So nice one there.

895
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: I think that was Thursday night as well.

896
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: And uh snow.

897
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: Snow in the Air Force Colorado State. Yeah, there was

898
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: a penalty for throwing snowballs. I want to say it's

899
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: the best. Also super depressing to not even be in

900
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: Halloween and have a snow game. Really really took the

901
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 2: wind out of me. But otherwise, always great TV A

902
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 2: snow game.

903
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's do let's get two scary stories. Darn,

904
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: let's talk about the Taylor Swift curse.

905
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: Dan, I think everything's okay with Taylor Swift, by me,

906
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: tell me more we.

907
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: Had overball or Samantha send us a note that perdue

908
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: has been zero to nine on weeks where Taylor Swift

909
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: is released now album, I have.

910
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: Not miscounts as re releases too. We're counting it.

911
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: Just released an album. Okay, So yeah, technically I have

912
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: not verified this independently, but I don't know why anybody

913
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: would make that up. It has to be corse, it's

914
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: so specific, it has to be true. And the question was,

915
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: and this was like on Thursday because Taylor is releasing

916
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: re releasing nineteen eighty nine. Does this mean that Purdue

917
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: is going to lose to Nebraska? And so I don't know,

918
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: but I would say definitely yes, and they did. That

919
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: game was never close. Nebraska one perdue now zero to

920
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: ten if you're to believe the stat on weeks when

921
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift releases an album, Damn Occult Forces at play Dan,

922
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: speaking of which the occult forces of the universe may

923
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: lead us down a very eerie path where we are

924
00:46:52,200 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: talking about BC Boston College. Yeah, rhyming with nine three

925
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: the line to nine. The line to nine for Boston

926
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: College is very weird, but very real. Okay, it is

927
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: very real for Boston College. It is not a great team.

928
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: They've gotten a lot out of Thomas Castillanos. It is

929
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: not a great team. No, I emphasize again, it is

930
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: not a good team.

931
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: But you would say, you would argue they're building something,

932
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 2: They're doing something.

933
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're doing, but if they get

934
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: the nine wins, it'd be a hell of an m

935
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: from Jeff Haffley, also from me, Tyler Van dyke Man.

936
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: Do you remember when we thought he was giving me

937
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: the first overall draft pick.

938
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it seems like a different time, Tyg.

939
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: We were all young and full of life. Huh, I

940
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 1: was less gray. You probably had zero children, probably, yeah,

941
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: tywler Van Dyke has thrown seven picks in his last

942
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 1: three games. He is beat up. But this Miami offense

943
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: can continues to be in a very weird spot. They

944
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: went to overtime against Virginia, they won twenty nine to

945
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: twenty six. But they've got n C State, They've got

946
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: Florida State, They've got Louisville and the aforementioned Boston College Eagles,

947
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 1: perhaps nine in three Eagles to close out their season.

948
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what Miami's final record ends up being,

949
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: but it has definitely been a topsy turvy year in which,

950
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: again like last year, we expected a lot more. I

951
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: would give a quick shout out to Virginia because Virginia

952
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: is playing hard, but this is a third road game

953
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: this season. I want to say where they've had a

954
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: double digit lead and then blew it and ended up losing.

955
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: But Virginia is definitely playing hard. Virginia is showing some

956
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: progress even if the wins aren't there yet, so good

957
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: for them amid this roast or amid this scary story

958
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: whatever section the show we're in, kudos to Virginia. And

959
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: my final scary story is one about the Penn State offense. Dan. Yeah,

960
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: Penn State won thirty three to twenty four, but it

961
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 1: was close. This was a close football game. Indiana draws

962
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: first blood. They get a ninety yard touchdown pass early.

963
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: Then they get another sixty nine yard touchdown pass. They

964
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: go up fourteen seven something like that to start the

965
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: second quarter on like a horribly blown coverage the guy

966
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: you know you or I could have walked in if

967
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 1: we caught the pass. I'm watching this game in disbelief,

968
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: and I've got my app up and I'm looking. I'm

969
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: looking at the DraftKings app and I'm looking for what

970
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: is the how low can this live line go? And

971
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: I was talking to you and eventually I hit minus

972
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: nine and a half Penn State. I'm thinking, there is

973
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: no way they can't cover this point spread. Penn State

974
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: minus nine and a half against Indiana the rest of

975
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: the way. They instantly go up three points. I'm thinking,

976
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: no problem, this is going to be my in the

977
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: bank low and behold. End of the game, they're up

978
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: three Brendan Soresby from Indiana gets sacked, the ball shoots

979
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: out of his hand, goes back into his own end zone.

980
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: They're trying to jump on it in the end zone

981
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: like it's a greased pig. They knock it out the

982
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: back of the end zone for a safety and a

983
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: nine point win. And that, my friends, is how the

984
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: hook gets you. Penn State minus nine and a half

985
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: did not cover, and it really left a bad taste

986
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: in my mouth. The offense for Penn State is still

987
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 1: pretty bad. It got better, still pretty bad. We finally

988
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: got to see Drawer make a big boy throw, which

989
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: he did admirably.

990
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 2: I saw that at the end of the game, at

991
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 2: the end of the.

992
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: Game to Cadre Lambert Smith, the long touchdown that was

993
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: to give them the lead after the game was tied

994
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: at twenty four. All not a stellar showing for Penn State.

995
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: A lot more of what we've been griping about on

996
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: this show. I am frankly still bitter about that nine

997
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: and a half point live line, but I digress.

998
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: Did you think it was a hangover or did you

999
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 2: think that this is just a team that week to

1000
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: week is not focused. I don't know if they showed

1001
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 2: that lack of focus obviously against Northwestern in the first half.

1002
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: Certainly Ohio State's a much bigger animal than either Northwestern Indiana.

1003
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: What's your read.

1004
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a focus thing. I don't think

1005
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: it's a hangover thing.

1006
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: Okay.

1007
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of receivers not being able

1008
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: to get open.

1009
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 2: They're also giving up stuff on defense though those big plays.

1010
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: They weren't given up big plays before. Now they were

1011
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 2: against India.

1012
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: Gave up some big plays. That was probably a focus thing.

1013
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: But on offense. On offense, I think it's a combination

1014
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: of receivers that can't get open. I think it's some

1015
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: curious play calling. And I also think what we saw

1016
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: in this game, and I you know, I know, for

1017
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: the most part, I've been saying it's receivers, receivers, receivers.

1018
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: We saw Drew Allard miss some guys. I mean, you

1019
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: see it on the tape. There were guys open sitting

1020
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: in pockets that he you know, either because he was

1021
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: feeling pressure or just was seeing them. He wasn't delivering

1022
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: the ball on time where it was supposed to go.

1023
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 1: Has a hell of an arm, has a ton of promise.

1024
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: Hopefully they can develop him in a way that they

1025
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: haven't developed quarterbacks of the past. But the offense is

1026
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: it's I don't know, it's suddenly not going to get better.

1027
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: Let's put it that way.

1028
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not going to belabor the USC defense right now,

1029
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 2: the US excuse me. The USC defense. It wasn't just

1030
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: that they were bad. It was that this is a

1031
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 2: cal third string quarterback completing throws downfield, and Jade not

1032
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 2: has been a good pack twelve running back for a

1033
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: couple of years now. He was untouched. Y it was

1034
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: he was going down I five against this USC front

1035
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: over and over again. And so USC got out of this.

1036
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 2: So with a win, it's better to win fifty to

1037
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: forty nine. And they got away with like a defensive

1038
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 2: hold on the two point conversion. Justin Wilcox ran to

1039
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 2: try to win this game. And that's fine. Win however

1040
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: you gotta win. If the refs don't call it, it's fine.

1041
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 2: But it's gonna get bad. Like UCLA doesn't even have

1042
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: a good offense, and they made the quarterback change, they

1043
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 2: might just straight up be eat USC by a couple

1044
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: of touchdowns. Like Notre Dame did Oregon in a couple

1045
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 2: of weeks might limb from limb your favorite phrase here,

1046
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: do just bad things to this usc defense. So and

1047
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: that game's in Eugene, so that's pretty scary. Nothing new,

1048
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: it's a it's a whore that we've seen in the

1049
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 2: past Mississippi State again, and also nothing new and not

1050
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 2: gonna be labor the point given the circumstances. But just

1051
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 2: like a tough watch, it's just really tough that Mississippi

1052
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 2: State isn't competitive with all of the fun teams that

1053
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,919
Speaker 2: they've had recently, either in the Mike Leech era, either

1054
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 2: in the Dan Mullen era whatever. To just have them

1055
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 2: as a doormat doesn't feel right in the sec and

1056
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 2: they are right now.

1057
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't Auburn have something like three hundred yards

1058
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 1: in the first half.

1059
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: Yes, and they jumped on them right away.

1060
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: They jumped on him away, and Mississippi State on defense

1061
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 1: gave up a ton of big plays. And it's it's

1062
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: not an offense that's good enough at this point to

1063
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: exist in a world where it doesn't have a good defense.

1064
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: They don't have the defense. The offense isn't going to

1065
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: bail them out.

1066
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: Colorado is a tough watch. Colorado is a real tough

1067
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: watch on offense. Shador Sanders keeps getting hammered over and

1068
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 2: over and UCLA has a good defense, they have absolute dudes.

1069
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: Lato is awesome coming off of the edge for UCLA,

1070
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 2: but just no protection for Colorado and the fact that

1071
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 2: Ucla I think two different quarterbacks through picks to Travis Hunter.

1072
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 2: Ucla lost the turnover battle. I think at one point

1073
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: it was four to nothing and comfortably won this game.

1074
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: Colorado is in very real danger of winning their first

1075
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: three and finishing four and eight. And you look at

1076
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: the schedule and just it's really hard to find. I mean,

1077
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: I guess depending on what Utah is doing, but the

1078
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Speaker 2: Utah is gonna run over this Colorado offense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, remaining schedule for the Buffalo's is Oregon State next week,

1080
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: Arizona the week after, and then two road games closed

1081
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: out the year at Wazoo and at Utah. That's not

1082
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: going to be easy for them. No.

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00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: Also, I don't know what happened with Washington, Like Washington

1084
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 2: was on top of the world game days there and

1085
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 2: this isn't a horror show. I don't know if you

1086
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 2: saw the interception near the end of the game. That

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00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 2: it was a rom of Dounza like catching it behind

1088
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 2: a Stanford player and then the Stanford player turning it

1089
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: and flipping it loose and intercepting it in the end zone.

1090
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 2: It's a great offense. It's super fun. They seem off

1091
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: with the Arizona State game and now with this game

1092
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: against Stanford, and Stanford's feisty, but like Stanford lost to

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00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 2: Sack State a month ago and Stanford's now going to

1094
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 2: be beating a top five team in the country, Stanford

1095
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 2: had an opportunity. This was the horror show for me.

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00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: They called a perfect fourth and two play to continue

1097
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 2: a drive to beat Washington with a couple of minutes left.

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00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: Dropped it.

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00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 2: Kind of a reverse double pass situation. Guy was wide

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00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: open eight yards down the field, just dropped it.

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00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: Dropped it. Yeah, it's a little bit a little bit underthrown,

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00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: but it was coming from a non quarterback, which is

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00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: it was catchable. It was absolutely catchable in very very catchable.

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00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was tough. Was So those are some horror

1105
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 2: stories for me.

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00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that Penn State line is just going

1107
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: to leave a really bad taste in my mouth if

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00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm being honest with you, Dan, Yeah, it's just gonna

1109
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: leave a really bad taste in my mouth. But I

1110
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: suppose I'm gonna have to get over it here before.

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00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 2: You'll get over it. I mean, look, everybody was celebrating

1112
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 2: the fact that Drew Aller made a great throw. So

1113
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: just don't bet on Penn State anymore if that's the

1114
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 2: conversation around Penn State's offense. Look, he made a throw.

1115
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: He finally made a throw.

1116
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: He made a throw.

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00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: Shall we get to our roasts?

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00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely. We used to roast.

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00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: Stay popped marshmallows by the Fire and Capital Conda. We

1121
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: had a couple come in on the reverb line. Our

1122
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: guy Shay was very selective, picking only the best to play.

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Speaker 1: We shortened it a little bit so we have more

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00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: time for our roasts this evening. We appreciate everybody who

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00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 1: dialed in it eight five to five, verbal three. Here's

1126
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: what the five for ballers had to say about Week nine.

1127
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: Have a listened, Utah Oregon was not a football game.

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00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: That was a slasher film with no survivors. Absolutely terrifying.

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00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: Happy Halloween, Oh, Dan Tye, it's the Jersey Jayhawk.

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00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,959
Speaker 3: You know what time it is? Oh?

1131
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 4: You just got beamed roshak dan tie.

1132
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: This is Pastrick on Tybee Island. I'm at the Tybee Lighthouse.

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00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 3: For painting the whole state at Georgia red tonight. Because

1134
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 3: all of them dators are extinct. Go dogs can't wait

1135
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 3: to go to the quarter.

1136
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 4: It's been a long trek to the college football welder need,

1137
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 4: but for the first time in seven years, Nebraska has

1138
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 4: five wins before October's end.

1139
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 3: It's one of the great things about college football is

1140
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 3: you can look up and see Boston College.

1141
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: Yes, the eagle is five and three.

1142
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 4: You don't need to look up who they'd beat?

1143
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: The Indians users taking over with the ball.

1144
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 3: Of their twenty yard line after interception.

1145
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: Going run, run, run for two yards?

1146
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 3: Is there everything that happened to them after that?

1147
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: How do I talk to my children about the possibility

1148
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: of Northwestern representing.

1149
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 4: The Big Ten West?

1150
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: Is the Big Ten Championship game? Have you talked to

1151
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: your kids about Big Ten West champion Minnesota Golden Gophers?

1152
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 4: There are three things in life, death, Texas in Tennessee,

1153
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 4: owning Kentucky in football, go ball.

1154
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 3: We should not fire Mike Loxley, but we should monitor

1155
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 3: that situation. He's lucky. There were five games in September.

1156
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 4: Is there any big spookier or scarier than Mario Christoval.

1157
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: In a close games? Beautiful? Oh, what a great bat?

1158
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 4: I think.

1159
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 2: Well, Miami's sort of the new Boston College, right. They

1160
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 2: play exactly as competitive as everybody. They play like, we're

1161
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: gonna jump out to lead against North Carolina. Don't ask

1162
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 2: us about the second half. We're gonna go down to Virginia.

1163
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 2: Don't ask us, but we're gonna win somehow, someway.

1164
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: It's the worst kind of team to root for. You're

1165
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: a one score game every single week. You're in for

1166
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: a score game.

1167
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 2: You don't need to tell me. I experienced it for

1168
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 2: four very long, snowy, wintry years. You don't need to

1169
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 2: tell me. Do you have any roasts or would you

1170
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: like to turn the floor over to me?

1171
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: Pitt got demolished.

1172
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you haven't mentioned this. Continue.

1173
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: Pitt got demolished that this is the one ACC game

1174
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: I didn't mention. Pitt got demolished by Notre Dame. They

1175
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: got absolutely demolished. We had this game on one of

1176
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: our quad boxes. We were doing the live stream, and

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00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: it was not competitive. It just was really really bad.

1178
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: Pitted five turnovers, each one uglier than the last. They

1179
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: were one of eleven on third downs. They lost by

1180
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: fifty one points to Notre Dame. After the game, Pat

1181
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: Nardoozi quote and this is the full quote. There were

1182
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: some abridge versions going around the web. The full quote

1183
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: was quote, I'll go back as a football coach, you

1184
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: lose a lot of good players from a year ago,

1185
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,919
Speaker 1: and you think as a coach you're going to replace them,

1186
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: and obviously we haven't. Again, it starts with me. I

1187
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: didn't do a good enough job coaching today. Put it

1188
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: on me. We've got to make plays. So that was

1189
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: at least vaguely Pat Nardoozy throwing his team under the bus.

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01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: And there was some reaction from other Pit Panthers out

1191
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: on social media upon seeing that quote. Pat Nardoozi is

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01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: a fiery guy. That's part of why we like him

1193
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: on le show. Yeah, the Nard Dog has given us

1194
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: hours of content to discuss and a lot of what

1195
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: he has to say is right. He's just saying the

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01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: quiet part out loud. And you know, especially with his

1197
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: comments around the transfer portal and I and Lincoln Riley

1198
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: Steele and his guy like that type of stuff is all.

1199
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: It adds to the fabric of college football. I think,

1200
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: and State it's faked the offense, yeah, andn State's fake offense.

1201
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: It adds to the fabric of college football in a

1202
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: really interesting way. But don't throw your team under the bus.

1203
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: Man Like I realize he shares the blame here, He

1204
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: acknowledges as much, But I don't know. I just felt

1205
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: like that was a really bad look. Frustration is natural,

1206
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: but I don't know if you're gonna if you have

1207
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: beef with those guys, keep it inside the locker room.

1208
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: Also, it's not unique to this year for pitt. If

1209
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 2: you look at the past five six years, they've had

1210
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 2: a good year on offense, and at a certain point,

1211
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 2: that's on your vision, that's on your hiring that's on

1212
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 2: your recruiting rubric whatever. They tend to average like seventies, eighties,

1213
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 2: nineties in terms of points per drive on offense. And

1214
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 2: so look, nobody would throw the players under the bus

1215
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 2: faster than myself. If I or head coach, because that's

1216
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: why I'm not a head coach, I would deflect as

1217
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 2: often as possible. But yeah, that sort of came to

1218
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: a head against Notre Dame Roast.

1219
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: That's a really tough one. Yeah, go ahead.

1220
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 2: Why is Rutgers the only likable story in the Big

1221
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 2: Ten this year? Why is Rutgers the single now? Also,

1222
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 2: what Jordan Nuban that's likable? You know, a random Minnesota

1223
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 2: running back here and there becomes likable. But you look

1224
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 2: at the Big Ten this year and it's such a

1225
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 2: garbage narrative conference right now. There are individual really nice storylines,

1226
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 2: specific players or coaches or whatever, But when you look

1227
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: at the teams, there's one clearly excellent team. And as

1228
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 2: soon as I say that it's Michigan, there will be

1229
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 2: a collective Yeah. But across this great land, with everything

1230
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 2: that's going on, Ohio State has been disappointing and not

1231
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 2: a fun watch at all this year. Penn State, you've

1232
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 2: covered it pretty thoroughly.

1233
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: Just move on. Maryland better, moving on, better.

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01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 2: Moving on. Maryland has just lost consecutive games to Illinois

1235
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 2: and Northwestern as double digit favorites. It would be irresponsible

1236
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 2: and full on false of me to accuse Maryland of

1237
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,959
Speaker 2: throwing games for financial game, But if they were, this

1238
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 2: is what it would look like. This is what it

1239
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 2: would look like. Indiana has been terrible and an impossible

1240
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 2: offensive watch. Everybody knows what's going on with Michigan State,

1241
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 2: and it has been ugly on the field. Zero to

1242
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 2: five against the Big Ten. Minnesota has put forth atop

1243
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 2: the Big Ten West mind you, unwatchable offenses themselves. Iowa

1244
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 2: was well trod territory and they're not fully themselves because

1245
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 2: Deacon Hill's the quarterback, not Kate mcmaraba, butul awful situation, nepotism.

1246
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 2: Wisconsin's down their starting quarterback, and we're definitely entertaining with

1247
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 2: Tanner Mordecai. I guess Heinrich Harberg is entertaining for Nebras

1248
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 2: h they haven't done anything. Northwestern Purdue Illinois. You know,

1249
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 2: Northwestern beat Minnesota. Now they've beaten Maryland, but it's hard

1250
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 2: to root for this year's version of Northwestern and considering

1251
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 2: the baggage that they've come into the year with. I

1252
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 2: don't know how the Big Ten got here and maintains

1253
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: this place most years of having ten fully unwatchable situations.

1254
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 2: And yet once again we're heading into November and the

1255
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 2: Big Ten is smiling. It's big toothy yellow, just gangreen

1256
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 2: ridden mouth at all of us. Once again, that's all awful.

1257
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: Tell us what you really think? Yeah, all right, that's it.

1258
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 2: That's my roast.

1259
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate everybody downloading this episode supporting the soliverbal

1260
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: If you've made it this far, we would encourage you

1261
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: to hit subscriber follow going out to verballers dot com.

1262
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,600
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1263
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: the bonus perks like the discord, which is fun place

1264
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: to be every Saturday. Of course, you can also get

1265
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: access to the bonus episodes that we do on Thursdays

1266
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: as well as ad free episodes. We've got videos by

1267
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Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz, our friend who postos every other Thursday or

1268
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: so and talk about some of the schemes from the

1269
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: week that was, or popular trends in college football to

1270
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: help you understand what the plays mean and how they

1271
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: look on video. That's at verbal ors v E R

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Speaker 1: B A L L E r s dot com. Dan. Yes,

1273
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: the games are still going on. What do we have

1274
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: to speak? We've got Arizona and Oregon State in a

1275
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: close one.

1276
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:29,919
Speaker 2: Oh, Beam's up four in the fourth quarter.

1277
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: Eight, We've got Fresno States storming back in the third

1278
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: quarter to take the lead on UNLV We've got Nevada

1279
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: playing as well. There are a couple games going on.

1280
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 1: We will update everybody on those when we do our

1281
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 1: next episode. But Dan, I think that's it for the campfire.

1282
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: If you want to throw the I don't know, the

1283
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: dirt or whatever on this thing.

1284
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 2: There's my bamboo flute, saluting everybody for listening.

1285
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

1286
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: for myself, tiehle to Brad, thanks for downloading, for listening,

1287
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: for supporting our show. We'll talk to y'allsee and stay solid.

1288
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 2: Peace. M