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Speaker 1: pitching side, like one little thing can just completely derail

429
00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,760
Speaker 1: your season, like that Hose Kingtna had a fucking tumor

430
00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,160
Speaker 1: last year and didn't pitch four months, Like there's just

431
00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,360
Speaker 1: crazy shit that can happen. So to pay for a

432
00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,400
Speaker 1: guy based on like reliability in theory, Yes, if he's

433
00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,680
Speaker 1: not your frontline starter, if he's your four or five,

434
00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:25,760
Speaker 1: that's understandable.

435
00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:26,200
Speaker 2: I get it.

436
00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,960
Speaker 1: But you can't pay that top end dollar for someone

437
00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,040
Speaker 1: like that, which you kind of saw the Red Sox

438
00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,840
Speaker 1: do a little bit with Jilido. Was just like kind

439
00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,200
Speaker 1: of overpay and now it's gonna completely bite them in

440
00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,680
Speaker 1: the ass when like there's other guys they could have

441
00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,640
Speaker 1: gone after, Like you probably should have put that money

442
00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,440
Speaker 1: towards maybe a better picture, like a bleak Stell.

443
00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,240
Speaker 2: It's also funny to talk about Jilley the Winkintana, like

444
00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,720
Speaker 2: how how the team's going too off seasons. Pay guys,

445
00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,360
Speaker 2: give them physicals and miss these injuries that almost take

446
00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,600
Speaker 2: them out for entire seasons. Like you gotta talk to

447
00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,840
Speaker 2: a doctor. If I was doing a physical on a picture,

448
00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,520
Speaker 2: I would check for two things. First one elbow, second

449
00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,120
Speaker 2: tumors like after the then shoulder, and then like an

450
00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,240
Speaker 2: we're okay, we're moving forward. It's like yeah, yeah, let's

451
00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,320
Speaker 2: figure all this stuff out. But also that sucks. I

452
00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,080
Speaker 2: feel for Red Sex fans they're going through right of course,

453
00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,680
Speaker 2: and Giulido too. Yeah, just sucks for him too, But yeah,

454
00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,240
Speaker 2: I don't think Jaylia was moving their bottom line. I

455
00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,520
Speaker 2: think their a fifth place team with him, a fifth

456
00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,920
Speaker 2: place team with appened. But I digress, because the Mets

457
00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,760
Speaker 2: have a lot of other good starting pitching this week bounced back.

458
00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,840
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a theme of the season

459
00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,119
Speaker 2: where sometimes it's gonna feel really gross and sometimes it

460
00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,800
Speaker 2: gonnat feel really good. At the end of the year,

461
00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,040
Speaker 2: are gonna be like, oh, the Mets star has had

462
00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,479
Speaker 2: the fourteenth best er starters. Ra Bas probably like, oh,

463
00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,360
Speaker 2: that's actually okay. Because Cantana bounced back in huge white

464
00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,160
Speaker 2: It's six strikeouts and three innings aginst the Nationals also

465
00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,160
Speaker 2: huge bounce backs from Seuan and I and Adrian Howser.

466
00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,080
Speaker 2: I think those starts from Howser and Manaia gave Mets

467
00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,639
Speaker 2: fans a real taste of what those guys are at

468
00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,959
Speaker 2: their best, and for both of them, it's just funny

469
00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,400
Speaker 2: ass pitchers. Like I think.

470
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Speaker 1: The thing I think with the thing with Manya two

471
00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,520
Speaker 1: is I don't know when it's gonna happen, but it feels.

472
00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,159
Speaker 1: And the Giants did this a little bit last year too,

473
00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,239
Speaker 1: where it's like he doesn't even need to go, like

474
00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:52,840
Speaker 1: you don't need him to go six things, he could

475
00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,200
Speaker 1: go four and then you could have like a Budo

476
00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,360
Speaker 1: or maybe even a Tonkin who's looked like really good

477
00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,399
Speaker 1: this spring too, coming in. Get two winnings or three

478
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Speaker 1: innings to bring you to that seven eight nine at

479
00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,520
Speaker 1: the end of the bullpen, and that would.

480
00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,359
Speaker 2: Be a great start.

481
00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,520
Speaker 1: So it's like things are gonna be a little unconventional

482
00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,959
Speaker 1: with this team, but there's there's pieces here that can

483
00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:09,760
Speaker 1: make things happen.

484
00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,520
Speaker 2: I'd love to do that with Manaia, with either with Budo,

485
00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,800
Speaker 2: because that Budo is like Dave MCUs and I'm gonna

486
00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,520
Speaker 2: talk about a little bit. Manaya is so funny when

487
00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,560
Speaker 2: he throws because he's so side arm me. And he

488
00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,199
Speaker 2: throws his four seamer but like with sinker intent. So

489
00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,880
Speaker 2: this four seemer, he grips it like a four scener,

490
00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,159
Speaker 2: but it kind of moves like a sinker, so I

491
00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,760
Speaker 2: think that's why it's a weird pitch. But then he

492
00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,240
Speaker 2: throws the sweeper on top of it, and they play

493
00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,919
Speaker 2: well off each other because they're both coming in. You're

494
00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,840
Speaker 2: like on the side of the ball. And they're both

495
00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,960
Speaker 2: kind of fading and the sweeper just sweeps down on you.

496
00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,560
Speaker 2: But like Buddo comes so over the top, and he's

497
00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,679
Speaker 2: been so good with that high fastball and then like

498
00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,240
Speaker 2: the two new sliders as and the change up and

499
00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,000
Speaker 2: everything's amazing. But when when I gets in these grooves,

500
00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,560
Speaker 2: like it's he always creates so poorly in the pitch

501
00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,399
Speaker 2: miles like stuff Plus hates him is to strike on

502
00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,199
Speaker 2: my as walks up and down. It's not great, Like

503
00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,480
Speaker 2: I got TJ stats murder him on Stuff Plus. This

504
00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,400
Speaker 2: week a couple people sent me this is like yo

505
00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,760
Speaker 2: mania stinks. I'm like, that's noth I is ever gonna

506
00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,639
Speaker 2: be good at. And that's like a concept about like

507
00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,240
Speaker 2: what these like stuff Plus models are so all the

508
00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,840
Speaker 2: people who don't care about these numbers, like give me

509
00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,720
Speaker 2: the fifteen seconds fifteen seconds right now, But they're always

510
00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,399
Speaker 2: gonna give guys more credit who do things that are repeatable,

511
00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,240
Speaker 2: who just throw high fastballs that spin the exact same

512
00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,600
Speaker 2: way and sliders that spin the same way, a curveball

513
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,159
Speaker 2: spin the same way. But there's so much pitching, especially

514
00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,960
Speaker 2: where guys that don't have those kinds of pitches, who

515
00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,920
Speaker 2: pitch with field. Justin steels like one of my favorite

516
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,800
Speaker 2: guys in the league for this, because if you look

517
00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,480
Speaker 2: at his stuff on Savanna or on these pitch models,

518
00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,800
Speaker 2: all it says Slyther. But then you talk to Justin Steele,

519
00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,119
Speaker 2: He's like, Yeah, I throw like a four seamer and

520
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,560
Speaker 2: a two seamer, and I have like three different kinds

521
00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,680
Speaker 2: of slide. There's like a two plane slider or a sweepy slider,

522
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,679
Speaker 2: and there's like a gyro Hart slider doesn't come up

523
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,360
Speaker 2: in these miles because they're all just slyer. Now there's

524
00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 2: separating slider and sweeper, but it's still like variations within each.

525
00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,880
Speaker 2: Darvish is so good at this. A lot of these touching.

526
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,960
Speaker 2: Wayne Wright was amazing at this. Noel is super good

527
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 2: at this. Like these touch and field pitchers, they're never

528
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,440
Speaker 2: going to grede well in those miles. That's kind of

529
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Speaker 2: what min I is because he's kind of taking advantage

530
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Speaker 2: of different fastball shapes he can uilize in the game,

531
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Speaker 2: and he's kind of breaking that sweeper off on top

532
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,480
Speaker 2: of it, and like what is arm angle like sometimes

533
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,760
Speaker 2: looks like that sweepers moving nine feet like the way

534
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,199
Speaker 2: it comes out of his hand, especially the way his

535
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 2: fastball moves and the sweeper off ball, it's like it

536
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,040
Speaker 2: completely dodges right so it looks like it's coming I

537
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,360
Speaker 2: left handers face or yeah, right right hand his face,

538
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 2: and it's like coming all the way on of the zone.

539
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 2: It's just it's an amazing pitch. It's I like watching

540
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 2: a pitch. There's gonna be some really ugly addings like

541
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 2: we've seen, but it's like when it's good, it's good.

542
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 2: And I think again, he's not gonna be a traditional starter.

543
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 2: He I don't think's wrong one hundred eighty innings, but

544
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 2: for four six innings like it's awesome.

545
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 1: And then then you have like Houser two, which is

546
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 1: gonna be like the meat and potatoes guy. He's gonna

547
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the dude where it's like shit, I

548
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 1: don't know how he does it every five days, but

549
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 1: like man, he gets like eighteen outs every five days.

550
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Speaker 1: I don't know how he does it. It's unremarkably he

551
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 1: throws ninety two, but like soft contact King, nobody barrels

552
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,160
Speaker 1: up the ball really against him.

553
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Speaker 2: He did it so well in the start too. He

554
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 2: went three to the third perfect innings with five strike gouts.

555
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 2: So the five strike's amazing. We men, I see him

556
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Speaker 2: strike got five guys in the game, like for the

557
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 2: whole month of April, but he in August. Is it

558
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 2: gonna be Yeah, he's gonna have nine strikeouts on August twelfth.

559
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,920
Speaker 2: But he also he had he had five strikeouts only

560
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,880
Speaker 2: four swings and missus, which is really funny. That's because

561
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 2: he was manipulating both edges of the strike zone. He

562
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 2: was working left to right, which I think is funny

563
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 2: because I let's do a great podcast, Nick Pollock and

564
00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 2: you know Sarah's thisweek. The new one's called The Craft,

565
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 2: and they talking about Nick specifically. The difference between most

566
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 2: pitchers really either work north to south or east to west,

567
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 2: and it's kind of hard to do both. The guys

568
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 2: you do balls are like gonna be some of the

569
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 2: best pitches in the league, like those banana peel guys.

570
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 2: But a guy like Houser is so east to west,

571
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Speaker 2: Like if you look at his illustrator, it's like where

572
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 2: he's putting these pitches every game. It's just like edge

573
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 2: edge edge edge, switching inside outside, inside outside the way

574
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,159
Speaker 2: he's worked working that to both guys, and it's amazing

575
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 2: when he's on like he was the other day. It's

576
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 2: just like a little sinker, little fastball, a little change,

577
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 2: little curveballs, like being big big, big, big, big bang

578
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,239
Speaker 2: on the edges and it's like no one's barreling him

579
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 2: up and he's getting guys out. It's just he's funny,

580
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 2: Like he's fun like he's gonna get murdered some days.

581
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,159
Speaker 2: But then you guys know, the middle of Junie, he's

582
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 2: gonna go, wait, scoreless and then are going to eviscerate

583
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 2: him in Atlanta one night like him seven ere and

584
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 2: runs in two winning. It's gonna be ugly. He might

585
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 2: he might get two outs one of the starts in

586
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 2: Lanta this year, but like, he's gonna be able to

587
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 2: do these things. Sometimes you're like, all right, this is

588
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 2: a real picture. It's a real pitcher pitching. Like if

589
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 2: you like watching Adrian Howzard pitch, that's how you know

590
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 2: you're like a ball over. You're sick in the fucking

591
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 2: head like we are, Like we're dude.

592
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: I even told the guy on the plane because he's like,

593
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: are you excited for the season, Like I'm so pumped.

594
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 1: I'm like I can't wait to like watch some fucking

595
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,479
Speaker 1: like this Mets baseball is gonna be so different than

596
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 1: anything we've seen in the last few years in a while.

597
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: It's just gonna be so in the mud like there's good.

598
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 1: Like you said, the bad games, the good game is

599
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: gonna be so worth it to watch. I'm excited in

600
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: Another guy too, gotta talk about it a little bit here.

601
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 1: You gotta talk about a young Cylor McGill. I mean,

602
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: this dude has been lighting up spring training, has been

603
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: you talked about sever reinos talking to the town publicly too.

604
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: I think McGill's starting to get a little bit of

605
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 1: hype as well in the in the fantasy baseball circles

606
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 1: and just people talking because just genuinely speaking statistically statistically,

607
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,360
Speaker 1: it's been maybe the best pitcher in spring training this year.

608
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: He's been dominating spring training. Statlin will be a hell

609
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 2: of a game. Eight innings, thirteen strikeouts, two walks in

610
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 2: a one to one era. That's a really good game.

611
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 2: And the hype is insane right now. But I think

612
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 2: the hype is I almost think especially from taking in

613
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 2: so much fans baseball concept and being so involved in

614
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: that world, that I think there's so much more hype

615
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 2: outside of the Mets fans and inside of the Mets fans,

616
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 2: because inside of the Mets fans it's like I can't

617
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 2: get hurt again. I can't I can't keep watching this,

618
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 2: I can't let this keep happening to me. But outside

619
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 2: Mets fans, people are like, Okay, he has the fifth

620
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,479
Speaker 2: start of their job. He's pitching really well. He has

621
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Speaker 2: a new pitch, like he checks every boxer, a fantasy

622
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: baseball player. Yeah, job security, new pitch, good fastball, easy

623
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 2: to go. Where Mets fans are like, just please, God,

624
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: don't hurt me again. And the pitch the game against

625
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 2: the Yankees this week, I think was like fever pitch

626
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 2: because it was it was on national television and middle

627
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 2: of day. Everyone was watching that game if you if

628
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: you give a shit about baseball at all, and like

629
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: Dave but Cohen was talking to bat Dualo Perez, and

630
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 2: then you have the viral clip where I think it

631
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 2: was Bail and Pete. We're like, ah, the boy McGill

632
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 2: and you gets the strikeout because they were miked up

633
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: where it's like all right, things are happening. Then he

634
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 2: also three inning, six strikeouts, no hits, like, yeah, looked

635
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: incredible New American Sports. Three for three on whiffs, all

636
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 2: five pitches he threw got to swing in a miss.

637
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: The color is also a new pitch with the splither,

638
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 2: which I think is also a really cool, fun new

639
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 2: weapon for him, especially against Lettis where he struggled. And

640
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 2: the slider's a whole new pitch too. It's much sweetier,

641
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 2: it's moving a lot more across his own like there's

642
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff happening here.

643
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it's good. These are all like

644
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: these are great places to be right now. I think

645
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 1: if you, if you weren't a Mets fan, James, how

646
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: would you be picking up Tyler and McGill right now

647
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: in fantasy baseball?

648
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 2: Would that I wasn't if I wasn't a Mets fan,

649
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 2: for sure, and I'd be lying I didn't really have

650
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,719
Speaker 2: him on some fans baseball things. But then like as

651
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 2: a Mets fan, like I'm watching these games, I'm like

652
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 2: very aware. Okay, so this is a national television ESPN,

653
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: so everyone's talking about it too. That Yankee lineup had

654
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: I think two real players in it, and one of

655
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: them was Anthony Volpi. Who had like a ninety WRSC

656
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: plus last year and the album was Austin Wells and

657
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: then the velocity was down again, which really hurts fastball

658
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: great sometimes. And this has been the deal with McGill

659
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: for years. We talked about a lot in the show

660
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 2: last year, like when he's above ninety five, he's great,

661
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: but once he gets in ninety four and below, he

662
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: gets Pelton. That's because like his fastball is in such

663
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 2: a precarious spot that when he loses those two miles

664
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 2: an hour, like the shape kind of dies and it

665
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 2: becomes like what people call it dead zone fastball.

666
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: It just kind of sits there, and he doesn't really

667
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: have the command either of that fastball he leaves in

668
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: the middle of the played a lot.

669
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: So, yeah, chucks, but this is there's always going to

670
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: be so many things pulling me both directions on Tyler McGill.

671
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 2: I just want him to get to April and see

672
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: if he can get like get the sea legs under him,

673
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: and if he can like stain in the velocity because

674
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: him going back down in ninety three ninety four in

675
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: the start. If this was major league players, they would

676
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 2: have murdered him. I think. Yeah, So I think, and

677
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: I think that it would have been good for everybody's

678
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: psyche that have Tyler mcgusey ira pop back to four

679
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 2: in the spring. So we're not expecting like this last

680
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 2: young cat, but it's I like to see him do well.

681
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: I think he's basically he has a really big stranglehold

682
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 2: right now in the fifth start of their job. It

683
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: is to lose for sure, and he's very far ahead

684
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: of it. And there there is something, but it's just

685
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 2: like I'm I'm gonna definitely wait before getting hurt again,

686
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 2: cautiously optimistic. It's a caution, yeah, yeah, exactly yeah, And

687
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: it's also like I was just that's also like the

688
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 2: exact opposite thing most people want to hear in like

689
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 2: sports talk and like sports takes, like might super calm,

690
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: might be okay, there's still some good things, all some

691
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 2: bad things. People, he's the fucking best or I'm never

692
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 2: gonna trust this guy again, but you're never gonna get

693
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta.

694
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: Make that fake quote card thing with Adrian House is

695
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: gonna throw a complete game shut out on like July

696
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: eighth or whatever you said, and then Tyler McGill might

697
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: be okay, like that's that's amazing.

698
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 2: I've been trying to get I've been trying to do

699
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 2: fake quote cards forever for all the content I've been

700
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: a part of it. No one's never listening. I still

701
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: have those old PSDs from back in the day. We'll

702
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: get on it. We'll get on it.

703
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll have some time tomorrow. But yeah, on the

704
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: pitching side, starting pitching him the great. The other fun

705
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: thing with this team that bullpen, And this is something

706
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: we actually like in the house. I'm saying, three Mets

707
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: fans here, we talked about this bullpen. It's like twelve

708
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: guys deep of that could be major league bullpen guys,

709
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: but there's like eight that you have to do because

710
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: of options, and like you'll just be losing people. So

711
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 1: it's in a very bizarre spot where it's like everyone

712
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: I think agrees Nate Lavender probably deserves to be on

713
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: the major league roster, but there's no shot he makes camp,

714
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: makes it out of camp because he has options, and

715
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,239
Speaker 1: like Michael Tonkin and Jorge Lopez don't, like, what are

716
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: you gonna do there?

717
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: It's it's a super weird conversation. Anthony di Como real

718
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 2: article about it and It was based around Sean Riefoldy,

719
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: who I totally loved. I think he's super deserves a

720
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: spot in the team right now. I can psycho too.

721
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: I love that it basically said that every single day

722
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: when all the guys get together, like in the cafeteria

723
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: for breakfast's like the first thing they'll talk about. It's

724
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: like only half it's gonna make this team huh yep, yep, yep, Yeah,

725
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a bad options yep, yeah, yeah yeah.

726
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: But it's like Diazraelei out of Vino, Drew Smith are like,

727
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 2: for sure locks. I don't think. I didn't think could

728
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: take them offs these teams. And then you have Lopez

729
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: and Dakman, who I think are locks. Both of them

730
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: right now, they're way down Velocy this spring. So that's

731
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: either one or the other. In my head. One is

732
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: like they know how safe they are and they're just

733
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: chilling saving the bullets. The other thing is like something

734
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 2: might be wrong because they're both kind of guys anyway,

735
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 2: So I'm not I don't know yet. I'm not I'm

736
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 2: not there. I can't make that decision. But both those

737
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 2: guys I think are locked. But the VLocity has been

738
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: way down. They have not been effective at all. So

739
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: then you have two spots left in the bullpen plus

740
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: the fifth star of the spot, which I don't think

741
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 2: we actually need in rotation until like the second or

742
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: third week of the year when we have like thirteen

743
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 2: games in fourteen days. But because that's also mcguil has

744
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 2: an option, Fujinami has an option, Lavender has options, Lukezy Budo,

745
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 2: Hartwig Walker, all those guys have options. So then you

746
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 2: have like two or three spots in the opening day

747
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: roster for Tonkin, Sean Reed, Foley, Phil Beckford, who's been horrific,

748
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 2: Johann Ramirez, and Yaxel Rios. So it's like it's gonna

749
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 2: be interesting see how shakes out, because like a lot

750
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: of these guys are doing so many things in the

751
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: spring where you're like I want them on my team.

752
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: You just like casually drop again. Phil Pickford, it's been

753
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: a rendis he's been Have.

754
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 2: You seen he's been terrible? Yeah, I mean I've seen

755
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: him on TikTok too.

756
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: He looks crazy there as well, Like he's just poor

757
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: Phil Bickford. He catches a lot of strays on this podcast.

758
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: No, I love Philly Bee I mean, you didn't even

759
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: think he was on the team. I always think Philly

760
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 2: B has a chance, but I mean he's honestly, it's

761
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 2: been so bad he might pass through and actually get

762
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 2: the Syracuse. So it's having that bad thing for the organization.

763
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 2: But I don't know. Like the Fuji fanfare right now

764
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: is crazy. People are Fuji right now. You can put

765
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: the picture of fujiam if you're a Mets content creating

766
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: his fortune, like like me on the mound or boy

767
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: Warri that you're in the house with.

768
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: He did this the other day we just put Yeah,

769
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: let's try it. When you guys are listening to this,

770
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: go check our Twitter. See how many likes gonna have.

771
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: James is gonna put out a tweet on Monday at

772
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: some point on Monday, and it's gonna be like you

773
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: if only lisan Al Gai was for fucking Shinarja me.

774
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: Now, the problem is that he got the lost thing.

775
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 2: He didn't pitch well, So I almost I don't want

776
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: to be negative, so I like Fuji. We have on

777
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: He also loves Fuji. Everyone loves to Everyone who's met

778
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: Fuji says great things about him. So I want to

779
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: post like Fujinami yesterday and do like zero two Thursday

780
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: innings tour and runs like I don't want to flame

781
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: the guy, but there's gonna be a time next time

782
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: he pitches, like, I'm just gonna post a picture of him,

783
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: probably with no comment or caption, and you guys like

784
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: you guys will say yeah, and we'll see how it goes.

785
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: But it's just like for a reliever who signed for

786
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: three million dollars in minor like options, the hype is

787
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: out of control. It's a little bit ridiculous, Like that

788
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: might be a little bit of our fault. I'm to

789
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: be honest, I think we might stroke the flames as fire.

790
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: Tiny baby will say that, but like he's still only

791
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: throwing like a ninety four to ninety five miles an hour.

792
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: He threw so lackadaisically, and it's not lackadasically, but he

793
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: was taking it so easy as first outing that Savant

794
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: was calling his fastball splithers because usually he throws to

795
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: splither ninety three and the fastballs are ninety fours. Because

796
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: he was taking it so easy. So I think that

797
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: is a big reason why it's just like he hasn't

798
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: gotten the results. We're looking for Yet it's kind of

799
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: getting the fet weet right now. It's also because I

800
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: think he probably understands, so I'm probably told him, I

801
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: think you might spend the first week, first couple of

802
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: weeks of season in the minor league just because those

803
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: options and everything else happening with the team.

804
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it doesn't. It feels crazy because again,

805
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: like you said, the hype and the far and fair

806
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: that's going around this the mountain of a man that

807
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: is Shintaro Fuja Dami. But relatively speaking from a roster

808
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: construction standpoint, there's no reason not to have him start

809
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: two weeks in Triple A and be like, hey, the

810
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: guys who have no options, you want to stay here,

811
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: pitch well, like prove it it.

812
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: Be that guy. And also you hate to have these conversations,

813
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: but someone will get injured, whether it be the rotation,

814
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: the bullpen, Like by April fifteen, someone something's gonna happen.

815
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: Someone's gonnaull this, Someone's gonna pull that, And it's a

816
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: shame because these guys are all good, especially I'm I'm

817
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: just super falling loversh on Refoley, Like everything this guy's

818
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: done since he came back from Tommy John last year

819
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: has been amazing. I don't think a lot of Mets

820
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: fans realized how good he was last year, And I

821
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: didn't even think I realized it because we were all

822
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: just so checked down and dejected, whether you were watching

823
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: the team or employed by them, about what was going

824
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: on last season. So it's like he was sitting ninety

825
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: six with like lights out fastball shaped like nineteen twenty

826
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: inches in the vertical break where it's just like coming

827
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: at you like this fifty percent track out ray in

828
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: a INIX with a plus change up and a plus

829
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: sly there. Like he does that thing with the change

830
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: up in the slide there that I've talked about, like

831
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: one of my favorite leavers, Ryan Stanek does and just

832
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: signed with the Mariners, where it's like the fastball has

833
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 2: that rising action, so it gets on you how you

834
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: work at the top of his zone with it, and

835
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: then he has a change up in the slider that

836
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: are like two miles an hour difference, but about eight

837
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: nine ten miles an hour off the fastball, but they

838
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: move a little bit in opposite directions and both downwards,

839
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: so it's like they're just they're a little bit frayed

840
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: off and the fastball comes out, and it's like a

841
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: lot of good weapons that work together, and this stuff

842
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: looks fucking awesome this spring, still like he I want

843
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 2: him in the major league bullpen. He's good enough to

844
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: be the major league bullpen. He might be one of

845
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: the best relievers in this major league bullpen. And on

846
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: it's all said and done, like he's he's like what

847
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: he has right now was awesome. It's just that's a

848
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: real quote card. It's serious because he those three pitches.

849
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, I look at all the pictures and is

850
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: both and I'm like, this guy, I'm just a sucker

851
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: for that fastball. Like when you have that fast ball,

852
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: I'm so in Yeah, I love it so much. But

853
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: it's just like watching him. I test everything, I test

854
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: stats behind it, like there's no mess.

855
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: He's got edge too. Man, we lack a little edge

856
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: on this team. This team's a lot of nice guys,

857
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: no edge necessarily, and Sean Reied fully I'm sure is

858
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: a nice guy. But something about like that mustache, plus

859
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: like the army haircut and like the tattoo sleeve. I'm like,

860
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: this guy's like ready to brawl at any moment, and

861
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: what if I said the Metal need this year James.

862
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: A couple of fights, a couple of fights. And it's

863
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: also cool looking back to last year because we get

864
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: the dejectiveness of like the fan base and everything and

865
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: how the season was going. And he was pitching these

866
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: games in August at like seventeen people were in the

867
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: Stansa city and that's where twelve games, yeah, the mester

868
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: twelve twenty games under five fifteen games under five hundred,

869
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: and he was striking out a guy in the sixth

870
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: inning and just like screaming and flexing. Yeah, that's it.

871
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 2: I'm playing for my fucking life and I'm gonna make it.

872
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: Let you know about it. And then the other guy

873
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: right now who looks amazing also taking camp by storm,

874
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,239
Speaker 2: Nate Lavender Dog. We told you guys his quote from

875
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: last week about throwing ninety one ninety two, but like

876
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: believing in yourself and making it play up. He's got

877
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: like a fifty percent strike guy rates so far this

878
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: spring and it's just like he again, he's not gonna

879
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: make the team because he has the options, but he

880
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: will pitch for the mess of the season barring injury.

881
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: And I think that there's a good chance he finds

882
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: a way to be effective. He's great extension, he has

883
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: good deception, like he's a good pitcher. Like I think

884
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: he's better at Hartwig, who did the same thing last year.

885
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: I think here's a lot here to like.

886
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: He reminds me very similar, throws harder. But the feel

887
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: that I get watching him pitch feels very Brent Suitory,

888
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: where it's just like this crafty lefty that you can't

889
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: really understand why nobody hits him. But at the end

890
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: of the day you see the numbers and you're like,

891
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: look at that, nobody touches this guy at all.

892
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: I get Lavender and Gervais confused. Isn't Lavender and Rithedy Dravasi.

893
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: LEFTI Lavender's lefty? Gervas is the race the ariety? Okay, yeah,

894
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,719
Speaker 1: that's my problem.

895
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: Whatever, But I get just hold up the hands, yeah,

896
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: hold up my hands, I know, but still good. Then

897
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: there've been a lot of the people have been talking

898
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: a lot. But Johann Ramirez too, He's also had amazing stuff,

899
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: always been darling and stuff.

900
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: Plus he's from the Mariners and Pirates, right, Johann Rimirez,

901
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: and he was like the dude who's just like through

902
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: like one oh one but didn't know where it was going.

903
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a couple. I think a cup of

904
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: tea with the Angels, I want to say too, maybe

905
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: something like that. But yeah, and also Yaxel Rios, he

906
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: also basically throws one hundred miles. Now that's your boy,

907
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: like all those guys Yaxel, Johann Reed Foley, and Tonkin,

908
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: who also was great talking through eighty innings the Major

909
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: League last year the team was the best record, Like,

910
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: you can't really put that guy down. Really liked Tonkin

911
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: a lot.

912
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: I think he's super valuable in a modern bullpen with

913
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: what he's able to do. Like you said, eighty innings

914
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: from the bullpen, Like what the fuck? Like you could

915
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: you could tell that to someone and they would be like, no,

916
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: he did know and then you look it up and

917
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: you're like, oh shit, And they were good eighty innings.

918
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,239
Speaker 2: I believe. I think it was like a belly average RRA,

919
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: like just below it, like a four years great, which

920
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: is just amazing. But it's like he also I think

921
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: he was the most endings for any reliever in the

922
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: league who made all of his addings as a reliever

923
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: and there was another crazy I remember I had the

924
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: stat when we when he signed him originally and the

925
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: show was a little more dry. But yeah, I think

926
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: like half of his appearances were multiple multiply innings. Ye.

927
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: Like he was such a glue guy for that Brave

928
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: staff and the Braves last year were like trying to

929
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: bring on a J. Smith Shov and they had Bryce

930
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: elder and cold certain times of the year. So it's

931
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: just like sometimes you need the guy come in the

932
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: fourth and get you the sixth and Tonkin was that

933
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: guy a lot or more so for the Braves. We're

934
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: winning by six and we need to get from six

935
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: to the eighth and talking was that guy again, Like

936
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: he's just a good guy in a bullpen to like

937
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: kind of soak up all the extra indings. I think

938
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: Bud is gonna work well as that guy too, but

939
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: kind of Trevor Williams y a little bit from the

940
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 2: y Ago. Less of a star with this build Tonkin

941
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 2: than Trevor Williams. But it's just like you need these

942
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: guys in the modern bullpen, like I need you to

943
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: go three, you can go to Can you give me

944
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: four of the pitches? Maybe give me I again on Sunday. Yeah,

945
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: thank you, And that's what Tonkin does. I think there's

946
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: a lot of fun stuff in this bullpen. I think

947
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: we're going to see him deployed in a kind of

948
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: a fun way and it's gonna be cool to see

949
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 2: how that all works out.

950
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: Definitely, And then on the offensive side too, because we

951
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: want to talk about a little bit offense as Well's

952
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: not a pretty good weekend. He's uh, he's swinging the

953
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: bat a little bit while people are getting excited feeling

954
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: good about him again, especially with the the JD.

955
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: Davis being put on waivers, which James J D. Davis

956
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: you want him back, yes or no? It's it's honestly

957
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: funny because like if there was a world where like

958
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: there's MLB the show, and like I if I did,

959
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: like if Fianto's had like a pure potential grade, I

960
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: could see and I knew he wasn't getting past a

961
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 2: certain point, Like yeah, I think because I think right now,

962
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 2: Ja Daves is probably a better baseball player than Mark Fiantos,

963
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: which is hilarious. In the same margument we had, you know,

964
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: it's not probably.

965
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: Better than Brett Baidy as well, right now truthfully speaking

966
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: at this exact moment. So then theoretically I would say,

967
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: yes they should, but I just don't think that this

968
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: year is about giving these guys a chance. And like

969
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: j Dave's gonna cost seven mils, so for the Mets

970
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: is gonna cost fourteen, and he gives him less of

971
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: a chance to get under the tax by the end

972
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 1: of the season.

973
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: So I think just just leave him off. It's not

974
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: he's not he hasn't help this team enough for it

975
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: to happen. But I think he's still a good player.

976
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: Would be well, it could do. Want a lot of teams,

977
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: but it's just it's funny. Probably hopefully maybe put that

978
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 2: trade to bed, yeah to Giants, as long as none

979
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: of those bad pitchers ever get.

980
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: Good, which I don't think there are. I think they're

981
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: I think they're pretty much all done. Thomas a puck.

982
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: You're not worried about him getting at.

983
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: It was the other one who was in Brooklyn, who

984
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: was actually Seymour. No, that's not to him, that's not him.

985
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: He's not that trade too. He's also Shack. Yeah, Whack

986
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: and Seymour. Those are the guys was worried to be

987
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: like actual major league believers. Maybe two years they will

988
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 2: be actual major league de laevers and I give the

989
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 2: Giants credit for winning that trade, but who really cares. Again,

990
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: Fiano's weekend nice opps field home run on Sunday, he

991
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 2: loves knops the field home run, two more hits and

992
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: three hard hit balls Saturday night. Like, the only thing

993
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: is that they had not put him in the field,

994
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: So I think it's third today. Oh he did, okay,

995
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 2: he started at third Baby dh okay, So that's interesting

996
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: as flip. And also he Fianto's has been hitting higher

997
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: than Baby basically every time they've been a lineup together,

998
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 2: which I think is super interesting to know because Baby's

999
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: also he's still hitting the ball hard, but he's just

1000
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: not I don't know, he's not finding at the spring.

1001
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: It's still spring, so I'm not no lift.

1002
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing with U with that third base position

1003
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: is gonna be interesting because again I think again my

1004
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: choice is Bret Baby. But also at the same time,

1005
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 1: he's got he's got to play with better at some point,

1006
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: at some point he has to just play better. And

1007
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: as much as we believe in him and people around

1008
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: baseball believe in him, maybe he needs to believe in

1009
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: himself a little bit there.

1010
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: He he's a good baseball player. He shouldn't be performing

1011
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: like the way that he is.

1012
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: Speaking of good baseball players, though, Peter Lonso has been

1013
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: looking pretty good as well. I know we talked about

1014
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: alvaresbien so locked in, but Pete's liked it.

1015
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: Fucking sucks.

1016
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: It's in March eighth that he's just locked in. But man,

1017
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: he's like the hottest hitter in baseball right now.

1018
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: It's done. It's March tenth, but yeah close. He's just

1019
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 2: three more hard hit balls on Sunday. He has nine

1020
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 2: hard hit balls the spring, is the most on the team,

1021
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: Like every single he looks like he's seeing all the

1022
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 2: pitches like it's just it looks very easy. It looks

1023
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: like the career is going to happen. But contract here.

1024
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, So his nine hard hit balls the spring,

1025
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: loll trivia for you. That's the most on the team

1026
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 2: so far the spring. There's two guys tied behind him

1027
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: with eight. One of them is Mark Vento's. Can you

1028
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: guess who's high with Mark Vando's with eight hard hit

1029
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: balls For.

1030
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: The mess of the spring, Tyrone Taylor No okay, uh

1031
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 1: Starling Marte.

1032
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 2: No, not even close. I think one or two.

1033
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 1: Rylan Bannon Nope, that's my boy. All right, I'm gonna

1034
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: take two more guests here. Yeah, nittier and grittier. Nittier

1035
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: and grittier both. Zach Short No, not too gritty, too gritty.

1036
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: Took two gratty, too gritty.

1037
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: Last gas Ben Gamble, Nope, who is it? Jose Iglesias whoa.

1038
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 2: And it's like over fifty percent hard hit percentage because

1039
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 2: he hasn't played that much. He's he's just hitting the

1040
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: shit out of the ball, no quantity wise, he's eight

1041
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: hard hit balls, like the most on the team. Damn amazing. Yeah,

1042
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: he's hitting well. I think we're talking about their base. Yeah,

1043
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: I think I think there's a world where there's a

1044
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: part like just the way that baby is still hitting,

1045
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 2: like he's gonna have I think a clean one hundred

1046
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: and fifty at bats, do whatever he wants. Same with Vientos.

1047
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: But I think they have Iglesias and Joey Wendell on

1048
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: this team that if the bat isn't coming around for

1049
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: one of these guys at their based, then eventually we're

1050
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: gonna have to lean into defense.

1051
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: I think that's m defense from those two guys with

1052
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: Wendell and Iglesias.

1053
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. So I think that's gonna be

1054
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: a part of this discussion that I don't want to have,

1055
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: but May fifteenth were gonna be my have to have it.

1056
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: Another another hot quot card from James. Jose Glaciers and

1057
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: Joey Wendall might be playing some third base this year.

1058
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: People are like, Oh, can't wait, so excited to this

1059
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: is the team. These guys are saying they can't wait

1060
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: to watch Joey Wendall and Jose Glacias the.

1061
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 2: Ones that shit podcast from those assholes. But one more

1062
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: cool thing happened this weekend. You guys, remember Simo on

1063
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: Je Metsta international signee two years ago. He was bad

1064
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 2: and the DSL and the complex over the last few years.

1065
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: But he's just walked into Port Saint Lucy. I guess

1066
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: he's used to it because he was on the complex

1067
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: all year last year. He's first two at bats one

1068
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: hundred seven miles now one hundred six miles an hour.

1069
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: Egs velosocy two RBIs two singles, You hope, what what

1070
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 2: the hell? That's incredible? He joined Baby, Lindor Viento's and

1071
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 2: g Manchoi as the only mess with multiple balls and

1072
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: play of over one hundred and five miles an hour

1073
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 2: in the spring, and of course Baby has the most

1074
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 2: of those. Yeah, this is why we can't give up

1075
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: on him. We can't give up on him. Now four

1076
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: bat of the balls over one hundred five the spring,

1077
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: he's listed two of them. He's listed two of them,

1078
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: so that's okay. But also Viento's has two of one

1079
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 2: hundred four point nine exactly, which is hysterical to me. Yeah,

1080
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: so he's basically he's basically also has four with Baby,

1081
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: but just that tenth of a mile an hour difference.

1082
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: But it's kind of cool from Simolwan and that's gave

1083
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: him a big bonus. He's probably gonna start the year

1084
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: in Satluis year because he just kind of has to.

1085
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: So it's just he's still eighteen years old. Like the

1086
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: fact that he hit balls off of even double a

1087
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: guys in these late spring training games one hundred seven

1088
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: hundred six miles an hour, even just getting two hundred

1089
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: six hundred seven mile an hour eggs Velosis an eighteen

1090
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 2: year old, I think it's really good. So that's something. Yeah.

1091
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: No, I mean keep an eye out for him and

1092
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: over these ext few days. Again, like that's why you

1093
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: watch the end of the Spring Train games is for

1094
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: things like this, like, oh look at look at simoon Wan,

1095
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: look at Rylan Bannon.

1096
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: That's my guy. God, I hope he's usually get bad

1097
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 2: this year.

1098
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: I love that guy. It's like my size and one

1099
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety pounds. He's a fucking brick shit house

1100
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: this dude. But uh, this why you watch the games.

1101
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: You get the nitty gritty. So why you listening to

1102
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 1: the mets of the podcast? Who's talking about Simon Wand's

1103
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: one hundred and six eggs of filos on their podcast?

1104
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 2: Nobody else? Who? Nobody else?

1105
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: Who's mets the podcast? That's what you get here. Anything

1106
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: else to talk about. I don't think there is, because

1107
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: we want to save that NIMO talk and that's really

1108
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: the big thing for another episode.

1109
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the last thing I do want to

1110
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: talk about briefly is the Spring Breakout game rosters were announced. Yes,

1111
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: the games being played this for I think March fifteen.

1112
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: I think in the afternoon. I think the plan is

1113
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 2: Mark and I are going to stream it on YouTube

1114
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: channel probably, so we're gonna try and really, you know,

1115
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: get some YouTube prescribers back in this account because we're

1116
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: doing pretty well over there. We definitely want to do better.

1117
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Dasha Stadiums, we got four hundred likes?

1118
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Let's go dude.

1119
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: Well it was funny because for those of you listening

1120
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: and whatever, I'm on a trip with Wardy Wardy big

1121
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: Mets fan. You guys know Wardy n Y. I'm over

1122
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: on YouTube, go check them out. And we're waiting online

1123
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: to buy tickets. Oh two crazy things. Also, what happened

1124
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: while this was going on? Waiting online to go tickets?

1125
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: And he like smacks me. He's like, nice tweet. I'm like,

1126
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: that wasn't me. I've been standing next to you this

1127
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: whole time. I haven't been tweeting. And he was like,

1128
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: oh yeah, James forgot about that. He's like he does

1129
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: a great job with the Twitter, which he does. But

1130
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: while that was happening, David Searns and Gary Sheffield like

1131
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: walked right by us to go into the ticket like

1132
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: ticketing offices area, and then I saw Keith rat online

1133
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: waiting to get tickets as well, so you got to say,

1134
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: what's up to our buddy Keith.

1135
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, Keith brought his little dollar Charlotte first game today.

1136
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: He apologized profusely to me on Twitter because like we

1137
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: talked like very briefly, and I gave him crap. I'm like,

1138
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: what are you waiting online for tickets?

1139
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 2: Like what is this? And he's like family day. He's

1140
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: like I'm running around busy like all that. Guys. I

1141
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 2: was like, oh yeah, I let you go, Like no problem.

1142
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: He's like I'm so sorry, like I didn't mean to

1143
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: blow you off, Like I was just like in full damno.

1144
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, you gotta know I do not I

1145
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: have no offense to this whatsoever, Like very obvious you

1146
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: had other things to worry about then talking to me,

1147
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: Mark Luiso, so love you.

1148
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: Keith. Keith is the man. Keith really, Keith really was

1149
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: so nice for us last year and we were with

1150
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: the team. Hope we're probably gonna have him on this

1151
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: year before the season starts. But sorry, I got sidetracked

1152
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: just scrolling our Twitter to find the spring break I rushed.

1153
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: I can't believe that's we got four angel Like that's insane.

1154
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 2: Did you retweet. I didn't retweet it.

1155
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: I didn't retweet it nice because all throw tweet see

1156
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: how high we could get. Let's get to do a

1157
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: thousand now because the other one at least on not

1158
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: guy if that was amazing twe If anyone's seen Dune

1159
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: Mark and I went to see Dunes the Boys this week,

1160
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: that was a good tweet. I I can't wait to

1161
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: retweet as next time run. But Spring breakout rosters, I

1162
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: think it's fun. I think a lot of people were

1163
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: concerned that these rosters didn't have Christian Scott or Mike

1164
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: Vassal on it, but I think that's it sounds likely

1165
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: a good thing they weren't on it because I think

1166
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: that means that the Mets are very seriously looking at

1167
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: them to pitch in the major League sooner rather than later,

1168
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: which we I think we're kind of aware of, and

1169
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: we think it's a real thing. It basically means that

1170
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: they're starting pitchers we want to say, probably like seven

1171
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: to eight for the major league team right now, eight

1172
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: and nine maybe because you got Boodohn Lukezy behind McGill,

1173
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: even though Boodo might be more of a blue guy.

1174
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: We'll see. But We're gonna have Blake Tidwell in that game.

1175
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna have Don Hamill. You're gonna see Nolan McLean

1176
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 2: and Brandon Sprote, who haven't pitched professionally yet, who apparently

1177
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: are throwing one hundred miles an hour in the complex

1178
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: do crazy things. Tyler Stewart hasn't had an amazing results last

1179
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: year in single A and double A, he was a beast.

1180
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 2: Calvin Ziegeler, We've been known about him for years. He

1181
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 2: also has an amazing fastball. Shame Paul Gervais and then

1182
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: Daniel Suarez walkin. Ronos Ben Is that Ben Simon or

1183
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: Ben Simone? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

1184
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: It's gotta be Simone.

1185
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: I can't imagine it's Ben Simon, but I don't like

1186
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: very two very different people. Ben Simon's like from like Westchester, Pennsylvania.

1187
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: Ben Simon is from Venezuela. Like it's very different.

1188
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: Oh man, I feel better. I'm playing excellent that f

1189
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: and needed one.

1190
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: Then I don't know, but then on the offensive side too,

1191
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 1: Like I'm excited to see like Ronald Hernandez. I don't

1192
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: really know that much about him, but I know he

1193
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: can hit, Like that's that's something that's gonna be interesting

1194
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: to see. On the Ben Simon born in Princeton, I

1195
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: was close, Like I went to Elon, pretty close, pretty

1196
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: close there with Ben Simon.

1197
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: Ben.

1198
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: I think we're only calling him Ben Simon though from

1199
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: now on, Like if if this guy ever makes the majors,

1200
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: he's Ben Simone, Ben Simon.

1201
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 2: I'm out for it. That's fine with me. Also happy

1202
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: to see Parava. I think he's he was still the

1203
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: first round pick who has very college stats. Like I

1204
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 2: don't think where is high on him anymore at this point,

1205
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: but like I still like he still could be definitely

1206
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: be a major league player. He's going to be I

1207
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: think a double A for basically his whole year, which

1208
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: is a good place to be for twenty three year

1209
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: old catcher. We just have least on a gayib in

1210
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: the starting lineup, the chosen ones. He was like three

1211
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: years younger. He's I think, I think like eight months younger.

1212
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: So he's viewed a little differently, but it's a freak.

1213
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: And then I think the stars are going to be

1214
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: in the Mets in field nowfield of course, because we're

1215
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 2: gonna have Jet William's gonna Gilbert Ryan, Clifford Luis on Helacunya.

1216
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna see Colin Hawke, Marko Romiers and Jeremy Rodriguez,

1217
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: a couple of exciting teenagers. Jacob rymer our guy his

1218
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: who's biased, what a lot of people are high on.

1219
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: He's like the Mets. He's like the Mets. Uh. I'm

1220
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: trying to think of like a way phrases like he's

1221
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: the he's the traits prospect in the Mets system right now,

1222
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: Like he's the big guy, the big arm, the power,

1223
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: the short stop, like he's got a lot of that

1224
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 2: stuff going on. And William Lugo and Julian Tillion and

1225
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: then other outfielders. Alex Ramirez, who I think is doing

1226
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: a lot right now to reinvigorate his stock as a prospect.

1227
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: I had some people in double A. Yes, I had

1228
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: some people talk. Who was someone DM me one of

1229
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 2: one of the damn a lot people you guys don't

1230
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: want talking about DM me kind of try try to

1231
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 2: build it up. But someone was like Alex oh, I

1232
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: think it was just a reply to his tweet, like

1233
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 2: people quit on Alex Ramirez. I don't think people quit Alexjhimierz.

1234
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: I think there was just there was the chance when

1235
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: he was like a back end top hundred prospects where

1236
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, this could go nuclear now, so everyone's

1237
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: sitting around waiting for the nuclear jump. But he had

1238
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 2: a down year hitting, he had down your defense. He's

1239
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: probably gonna be a corner affield guy now. So when

1240
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: you're just become a corner raffield guy who hasn't hit

1241
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: the ship out of the ball every level you went to,

1242
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: you're no longer going to be a top ten prospect.

1243
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: But that's also okay because he's still tracking to be

1244
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 2: a major leaguer. He just went from like Julio Rodriguez

1245
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: to Gregory Planco.

1246
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: I was literally just about to be like it went

1247
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: like Ronda Kunya or like some other random outfield who

1248
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: Gregor Planco is a good one because he's another gangly

1249
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: motherfucker like Alex Shamer.

1250
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: Thanky, big dude, gets gets the bats to the ball.

1251
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: Things happened, but just not not likely enough to be

1252
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: a center fielder. And then Nick Morribi, though who I

1253
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: think is a fan of the drafting mark channel.

1254
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: That's that was Rhymer Morobido is the dude that they

1255
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: took who's like a freak athlete, and they're like, we

1256
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: don't necessarily know what position, but we know that he

1257
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: can run in the outfield, Like, let's see what he

1258
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: can do.

1259
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Ryland Thomas. But I think the Meds have

1260
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 2: one of the more exciting rosters that a team put

1261
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: out there for this event. I think it's also just

1262
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: more exciting because of how familiar and aware we are

1263
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: of all these guys, and it's gonna be so cool

1264
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 2: to see these games. Think this this is the best

1265
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 2: marketing idea that the Major League Baseball's had, like in

1266
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: decades since Yo.

1267
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm super I'm super excited for it because I love prospects,

1268
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: like I love watching these games. And the fact that

1269
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: you're gonna actually be able to watch a full team

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Speaker 1: of these guys play a full game, I think is

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Speaker 1: really exciting. It's a showcase and you don't really get

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Speaker 1: to do that too often. The MLB Draft doesn't have

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Speaker 1: the same hype because these guys don't come into the

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Speaker 1: league instantly. The international prospect signing doesn't have hype because

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Speaker 1: it's those guys are fourteen years old when they're getting signed.

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Speaker 1: So this is a way to put spotlight on players

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Speaker 1: that could be the next stars and educate fans around baseball.

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Speaker 1: Like that's why my videos do well on prospects. People

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Speaker 1: just don't have information on a lot of these guys.

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Speaker 2: And information is hard to get in a lot of them.

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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be cool if this game is gonna

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Speaker 2: be happening one on SNY, but we'll be streaming and

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Speaker 2: two have stack cast data available, Like we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: to see the way these guys pitches are moving. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna get to see how hard At Williams and Ryan

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Speaker 2: Cliffor and Drew Gilbert hitting the baseball.

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Speaker 1: It totally like there might be some guy where're like

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Speaker 1: what the fuck, Like, holy shit, this guy did this

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden. It might be the top ten

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Speaker 1: prospect in the system because he hit a bout one

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Speaker 1: hundred and ten or whatever he did.

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Speaker 2: This could be huge, Like Face Spies puts bat in

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Speaker 2: a ball for one hundred and eleven, Like he's suddenly

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Speaker 2: like the top one hundred. LIS's gonna look at him.

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Speaker 2: But it's like that that's gonna be the cool thing.

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Speaker 2: It's also cool that these games are being played inter division,

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Speaker 2: like the Mets are playing this against National so it's

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Speaker 2: like it's like starting rivalries earlier, which I like. I

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Speaker 2: think baseball is kind of losing its sense of rivalry.

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Speaker 2: They're becoming NBA ish, which I hate, and I just

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Speaker 2: want I want these local regional rivalries to maintain forever.

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Speaker 1: Totally again, remember to subscribe to the Mets Up Podcast

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Speaker 1: YouTube channel because we will be live streaming that We're

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Speaker 1: not gonna watch. We're gonna be watching the game. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna see our reaction. We obviously can't show the game

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Speaker 1: because it's copyright stuff. But if you want to listen

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Speaker 1: to the game in the background and hear us react

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Speaker 1: to it and hang out with us because we'll be

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Speaker 1: talking to chat, that's where you can go Mets Up

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Speaker 1: Podcast YouTube channel. Otherwise, I think that's it for this episode. Guys,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening, Thank you for watching.

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Speaker 1: Follow us on all social media app met stuff on Twitter, Instagram,

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Speaker 2: Follow James on Twitter app James Underscore Chiano and Me

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Speaker 2: at Draftneckmark with a C.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, thank you for watching, and we'll

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Speaker 1: catch you all for another episode later this week, maybe

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Speaker 1: still boots on the ground, who knows, we'll see peace.

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Speaker 2: Out, peace out, See you guys next time, and then.

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Speaker 1: Then then

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Speaker 2: Then the