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Speaker 1: in to our Thursday morning podcast. Former Viking and Now

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Speaker 1: What media member Ben Lieber made some news this week

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Speaker 1: talking about how Mike Zimmer and Kirk Cousins did not

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of questions. He had some really

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Speaker 1: good time in the NFL. I want to start with

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Speaker 1: this though, Men who are well compensated and have been

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Speaker 1: in positions of power do not like losing it. Remember

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Speaker 1: Joan Collins prinor eighties now as an actress, she had

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Speaker 1: a line once that made me laugh. She said, it's

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Speaker 1: much harder to age when you're beautiful. She said, if

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Speaker 1: your average looking an age, it's not a drop off.

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Speaker 1: She goes, when you're stunning and get old, it's really painful. Yes,

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Speaker 1: there's a great deal of vanity in that quote, but

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Speaker 1: the same thing is true for power. Once you've had it,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to lose it. Nick Saban, Kirby Smart.

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Speaker 1: They don't like having less control over kids. So Kirby

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Speaker 1: Smart said this week, got to be careful about the name,

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Speaker 1: image likeness. He said, you know, freshman sophomore making one

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty thousand a year. He said, if you'd

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Speaker 1: my first year or two in college, I certainly wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be the Georgia coach. So the insinuation is kids that

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Speaker 1: But Steph Curry grew up with money, and Clay Thompson

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at our political dynasties, the

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Speaker 1: To me, it's one of the great sports quarterback stories

424
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Speaker 1: of my life. I mean, it was treated like the

425
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 1: royal family was. I mean, do you remember the helicopter's practice,

426
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: the coverage, the plane flying in. I remember all of it.

427
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: And I'll even I'll get a little long winded here

428
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: and I'll go back even further now, thank you telling you.

429
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: I talked to Mark Tauscher about this a couple of

430
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: weeks ago and I said, do you remember or was

431
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: it widely known in your guys locker room that Brett

432
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: was trying to get himself to Daryl Bevil in the

433
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings the year that he went to the Jets.

434
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Speaker 1: He goes, oh, yeah, we knew. Everybody knew in Green Bay,

435
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: so we thought we were just kind of privy to

436
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: that information. Instead the locker room the year before, we

437
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 1: tried desperately in training camp to get Brett Farve. Obviously,

438
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers are like, We're not going to

439
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: send you right to a division rival. Go go take

440
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: a one year hiatus in purgatory with the Jets. That's

441
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: that's how it had to happen. So when when it

442
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: actually finally did come full circle in the fall of

443
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine in training camp, it really wasn't

444
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: a surprise to us because we knew the year prior

445
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: we tried to get him then, and we knew that

446
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: next year during the course of that year, like, as

447
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: long as Brett stays healthy, as long as he stays motivated,

448
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: he'll be on this team some at some point in

449
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: time in O nine. But then it's the fanfare and

450
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: it's the soap opera drama thing that falls the whole

451
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: thing around. I'm sitting there in the Vikings caffeteria at

452
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: Winter Park. We're watching it on the screen. It's like

453
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: the whole OJ chase. It's the helicopters, it's the suv.

454
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: They follow him all the way into winter Park. And

455
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: I remember sitting there with my teammates like I can't

456
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: believe this, this as has happened. You know, this is

457
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: he really just pulling right into Winter Park. Go down

458
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: the locker room. Here comes guns slinging cowboy Brett with

459
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: his cargo shorts on, and he's just like, what's up, guys,

460
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: And We're like, holy crap, that's Brett Farr. Let's roll,

461
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: you know. And I got and I gotta tell you, man,

462
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: I've been around Junior say out my rookie year, and

463
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: he's the only guy that I think that had that

464
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: level of magnetism where when you're around him, you just

465
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: enjoy being around him, and he brings everybody together. And

466
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: Buddy was one of those guys that just brought a

467
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: smile to everybody's face. Now he had a little bit

468
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: larger personality than Brett, but Brett carried that same magnetism.

469
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: He walked in that locker room and everybody just sort

470
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: of stood up a little bit taller and puffed up

471
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: chests out a little bit more. There's this confidence that

472
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: he just brought to that locker room, even though he

473
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: was sixty five years old. You know, so special player,

474
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Speaker 1: special time. I really wish that we could have wanted to,

475
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: you know, really for him too. You know, Bennet's pretty amazing.

476
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: If you look at your history, you played with arguably

477
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: the most popular football player in either of our lives

478
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: at his height, Brett Farve. He really bridged the gap

479
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: of star rural America star, you know, like John Madden

480
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: had this ability Ben. They loved him in LA and

481
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: they loved him in Appleton, Wisconsin. Yeah, like there's not

482
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: many of that. Brady feels big city, right, like Tom

483
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: feels wearing ugs. Tom is big city. Derek Jeeter feels

484
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: playboy big city. And there's Farve like Wranglers, cargo shorts.

485
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: But like if he walked in and the Tucks to

486
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: a big event in New York, everybody would be like,

487
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: oh my god, there's Brett Farve. You It's like you

488
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: did you know instantly at practice? Because there's legendary stories

489
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: that he wasn't always the easy to coach he k

490
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: he kind of made her up? Did you said it practice?

491
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: Like the first couple passes? Did you hear him? I mean,

492
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: was it instant if you had not known him? Whoa, whoa?

493
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: That's different. Yeah, I mean we saw all those Patrick

494
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: mahomes asked no look passes a lot in practice. You know.

495
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: The thing I appreciate about Brett and he's not you know,

496
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that he's like top one percent of this.

497
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys that are like this, but

498
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: I think I really appreciate this about him. Ay, he

499
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: kept football very fun, and I thought that it was

500
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: pretty amazing. For as many years that he had played,

501
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: all the accolades, everything else, he came out to practice

502
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: with a smile on his face, and he was ready

503
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: to go out there and just have fun. He was

504
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: out there ready to compete. If it was a one

505
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: on one drill with running backs and linebackers doing a

506
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: pass route drill. Brett was trying to make us look silly.

507
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: You know, Brett was talking trash to us. You know,

508
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: Brett's celebrating, you know, a little completion on a five

509
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: yard out, just because of just that thrill of competition.

510
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: Watching his running back beat one of our guys in coverage.

511
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: It made us, I think, get excited for practice. It

512
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: made you, made you kind of forget about the mundane

513
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: nous of a week twelve practice and you're like, all right,

514
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: here we go. It's a Wednesday, or we got we've

515
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: got full pack on today, We've got nine on seven,

516
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: same old, same old. Right. Then Brett gets out there

517
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: and Brett's having fun. Brett's got a smile on the space.

518
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: Brett wants to make you look silly, and he's going

519
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: to talk trash to the whole rest of the team

520
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: about and call you out for you know, miss and

521
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: a miss and a tackle missing, a coverage drop whatever.

522
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: He was just fun, you know, and like I said,

523
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys like him, but playing that position,

524
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: I think it was it's that important to do that,

525
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: you know. I've said before it's kind of ironic that

526
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: even though Aaron and Farv were different personalities, it's kind

527
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: of ending the same way. They've almost become very similar.

528
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: And I think part of it, I call it it's

529
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: it's sort of the Green Bay quarterback dilemma. There's no owner,

530
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: so nobody to call you on your shit a little bit, right,

531
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: Like you know, Stan Cronky can yell at Matt Stafford.

532
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: He's a billionaire. You don't have an owner. It's the

533
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: smallest town. He can't go to a grocery store. You're

534
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: the most popular person in the state. There's no other

535
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: pro teams. It feels almost like a high school town

536
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: with a big stadium. You've mostly dominated the division. So

537
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: what happens with far and Rogers, and this is very human.

538
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: You are the most popular quarterback. If you're a great

539
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: packer quarterback, star far Rogers, you're impenetrable. You're untouchable. There's

540
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: no owner. They've always had kind of reticent front office,

541
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: not out, you know what I mean. Like it's they

542
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: stay out right, they stay out. You have to get

543
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: money raised through selling stock. It's a totally different thing.

544
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: And it creates a weird relationship where you're beyond a quarterback,

545
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: You're almost a rock star. I mean, Craft could yell

546
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: at Brady Er, say did yell at Peyton? And so

547
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: I look at Rogers and sometimes I think, Wow, what

548
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: an ego and then I think God. Far at the

549
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: end in green Bay was like, I'm not learning a

550
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: new offense. I don't want to show up for this.

551
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I get it, you know, yeah, I

552
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: do feel there's there is sort of a reality of

553
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: green Bay that, as I say this, people would go God,

554
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: I'd welcome it. But in life, it's nice to have

555
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: people hold you accountable. It could be your kids, it

556
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: could be your wife. It makes a sacrifice, it holds

557
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: up you know what I mean, Ben, And you know

558
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying about this. You know, I know what

559
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: you're saying. And the first thing I can think of,

560
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: and maybe this is a really terrible comparison, and you're

561
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: right there in La. It's it's as if they're they're

562
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 1: treated like child actors, and they get so much success

563
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: so early on, and everybody just puts them on a pedestal.

564
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: And in a small town like Green Bay and really

565
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: a small states as Wisconsin is, um, you are a

566
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: rock star, you are an a list celebrity. Hey, I

567
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: don't know how they can they can do it and

568
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: feel like they can live a normal life in Green

569
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: Bay when they're that status. But I was recently there,

570
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: you know this last this last winter for the Vikings game,

571
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: and I've never been through the whole Lambeau kind of experienced, right,

572
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: and we were doing some some little teaser shots and whatever,

573
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: so I was getting more access than I ever did

574
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: as a player. And one of the people that was

575
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: with me because I said, I go, I remember, you

576
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: know this this place before the expansion, before they added

577
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: the suites all around, before they kind of bowled this

578
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: thing in, and they said, all of that, plus everything

579
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: that you see out here is because of two gentlemen.

580
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: That's Brett farve In Aaron Rodgers. That's it, and everybody

581
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: knows it. Everybody knows that they are. They are one

582
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,920
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583
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,560
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584
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: They're everything to that city in that state. And so yeah,

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00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: I think it's magnified more than you can any of

586
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,040
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587
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,959
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589
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00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: that's I think the biggest question is is what is

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620
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,279
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Speaker 1: it's not going to be as easy just to go

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00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,799
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625
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,920
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626
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,239
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627
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,759
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628
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,839
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629
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Speaker 1: try something a little bit different, and everything changes with personnel.

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Speaker 1: You know, there are some things maybe that dalvinok It

631
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: can do that maybe the other running backs couldn't do.

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Speaker 1: You know, same thing with the wide receiver corps. Same

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Speaker 1: thing with the offensive line. This is an offensive line,

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Speaker 1: and you mentioned off the top of the podcast that

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Speaker 1: is getting better. I mean that's been one of our

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Speaker 1: achilles heels on offensive last couple of years, and I

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Speaker 1: think that they've made the right steps to solidify that

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Speaker 1: offensive line. But again, all different pieces, all different skill sets.

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Speaker 1: We know, we do know based off of OTAs in

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Speaker 1: mini camps. We're going to see a lot more of

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Speaker 1: a receiving Dalvin Cook. He's going to be either split

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Speaker 1: out as a weapon, he is going to be flared out.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be screen passes, there's going to be you know,

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Speaker 1: choice routes, f angles in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 1: That's going to really take advantage of his quickness and

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Speaker 1: his open field ability. And I think that's a plus.

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Speaker 1: I think every game that we walked into last year,

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Speaker 1: we talked as a as an analyst group, well, what

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Speaker 1: can be an X factor for this game? In every game,

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Speaker 1: you could say Dalvin Cook's receiving yards. Because we know

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Speaker 1: what we have in Feeling, we know what we have

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Speaker 1: in Justin Jefferson. If he can be the X factor

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Speaker 1: and be a third down possession guy or a guy

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Speaker 1: that can you know, break one off, that can be

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Speaker 1: the X factor. I think we're going to finally see

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Speaker 1: the X factor be a real part of this offense

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Speaker 1: on a weekly basis. As far as personality goes, he's chill.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what else to say. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's sort of the anti Mike Zimmer. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: always smiling, um. He seems to always be very thoughtful

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Speaker 1: in his answers. Um, you know, I I think he

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Speaker 1: gives you enough information without like oversharing. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Abe is looking for a guy that's going to give

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Speaker 1: you the most honest answer all the time. But I

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Speaker 1: feel like there's transparency the communication, there's collaboration with quasi. Um.

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Speaker 1: He just seems like a guy that the that the

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Speaker 1: players can really relate to, And I think I do

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Speaker 1: think that's important. So I gotta ask you finally, Um,

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Speaker 1: you played with Adrian Peterson and I saw he's had

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Speaker 1: an interesting life. He's about the best high school running

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Speaker 1: back I've ever seen on tape. Along with Barry Sanders,

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Speaker 1: he's probably the best college running back. It's weird Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma State two best college running backs I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: Now he's fighting Lavy and Bell. I just read about

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Speaker 1: that from what you know. When his personality, what do

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Speaker 1: you make of that? Like it feels it feels desperate,

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, and I feel like and I

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Speaker 1: feel like Bell felt the same thing and felt the

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Speaker 1: critics sort of come out and say the same thing.

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Speaker 1: And there's this essence of like why are you doing this?

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Speaker 1: Like there's got to be it's not just about oh,

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Speaker 1: this is for fun, and Bell came out and said, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing this because I want to make this a career.

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Speaker 1: This is something I'm really passionate about. I actually do

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Speaker 1: want to be a boxer. Now. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's true or not, but it was a good deflection

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Speaker 1: off of the narrative of what you heard about Adrian Peterson. Well,

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Speaker 1: Adrian probably needs the money. Adrian, you know, is this

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Speaker 1: is this a transitional thing away from the league. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't know what he wants to do or get into,

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Speaker 1: so he's going to go go in a ring and potentially,

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Speaker 1: you know, pummel his face and head in you know.

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Speaker 1: So I thought it was pretty smart pr department wise

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Speaker 1: by by Levion to say, well, this is a career choice.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is something I want to do. Now

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Speaker 1: we're going to find out if that's real or not.

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Speaker 1: But I've I've heard a lot of people locally sort

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Speaker 1: of look at Adrian situations say kind of sad, kind

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Speaker 1: of sad, and they're asking me if I know anything.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, look, I don't know, I Adrian, I aren't

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Speaker 1: close like that, but I get it. It looks like

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Speaker 1: a guy that seems a little desperate for either attention,

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Speaker 1: finances or both. M And if that's the case, you're right.

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Speaker 1: It's he's a Hall of Fame player, one of the

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Speaker 1: best runners we've ever seen, generational player, and he's subjecting himself,

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Speaker 1: he to get an embarrassed I mean, what if he

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Speaker 1: gets knocked out in the in ten seconds? You know

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Speaker 1: that's that's not good for your ego. You know what,

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Speaker 1: You go in there as a Hall of Fame running

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Speaker 1: back and what if you what if you get your

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Speaker 1: ass knocked out and in the first round. You know,

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Speaker 1: So the fact that he's doing this, I'm gonna watch, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'll tune in. Yeah, I'm gonna be I'll check it out.

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Speaker 1: But I hope it's not because there's a financial deal

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Speaker 1: or an attention deal behind it. Yeah. Well, Ben a

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Speaker 1: bright guy. This is really good, good storyteller. Um. You

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Speaker 1: know I called around and said, uh, you know, I've

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Speaker 1: been doing this so long in Minnesota. Minneapolis has always

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Speaker 1: had like legendary Paul Allen's obviously very very well known.

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Speaker 1: He had sid for years. Who's the guy that works

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Speaker 1: He worked at w scCO for years. A sportscaster is

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Speaker 1: at Rosen. Yeah, Mark Rosen, Mark Rose. I work with

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Speaker 1: him at the fan every week. Yeah. So it's a

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Speaker 1: really It's got some of the best local news in

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Speaker 1: the country, news reporters. So for you to get a

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Speaker 1: job on the air in Minneapolis as something, it's like

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Speaker 1: a really really I always said Chicago and Minneapolis and

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Speaker 1: Denver and Boston local media matters, like people watch, they're

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Speaker 1: into it, they have strong opinions. It's feisty, it's competitive,

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Speaker 1: and you're part of it. And good for you. You've

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Speaker 1: earned it. You're really good and I really appreciate this.

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Speaker 1: No thank you, And in special shout out to our

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Speaker 1: our friend Jamie Urdall. She's taken over NFL Network as

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Speaker 1: the host you know for k Adams So and she's

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Speaker 1: a Minneapolis gut she's a Minnesota gou So she did

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Speaker 1: she work with she worked local TV radio well, and

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Speaker 1: she was doing she was the lead sideline supporter at

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Speaker 1: CBS Forum, you know, the number one Game of the

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Speaker 1: Week on the SEC and and she was doing March

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Speaker 1: Madness with CBS as well. I mean, she's uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we're pretty proud of her too. I think she starts, um, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know when you're going to air this, but

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Speaker 1: she starts on Monday, I think at NFL network, kind

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Speaker 1: of taking over for k Adams. A special shout out

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Speaker 1: to Jamie Minnie Polist girl. That's great. Yeah, all right,

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