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Speaker 1: Good evening everybody, and welcome to Giants Schedule release Special

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Speaker 1: presented by United Official Airline of the New York Football Giants. Hello, everybody,

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Speaker 1: hope everyone's having a great Thursday.

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Speaker 2: I am John Schweldt, joined by Paul Datino, talking Giants

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Speaker 2: before with you for the next two hours. Guys, big

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Speaker 2: show coming to you today. Well of Bob Papa, who

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Speaker 2: is at a golfa bank currently, but he'll join us

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Speaker 2: on the phone to talk a little bit about the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Will break down everything with the schedule, and we'll also

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Speaker 2: give you a look inside what happened at Rookie Mini

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Speaker 2: camp last weekend when we got our eyes on the

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Speaker 2: rookies for the first time.

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Speaker 1: Paull Theatino. Good evening, How are you, sir. I'm doing

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Speaker 1: very well.

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Speaker 3: John. We've got the Shakira concert across the street at

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Speaker 3: YI Stadium. They're rocking it as loud as they possibly can.

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Speaker 3: You cannot hear the base from here, though, I think

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Speaker 3: when we go outside you might be able to. Oh

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Speaker 3: indeed you can.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't going on with I couldn't hear it from

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Speaker 2: Route three driving in. I'm not sure if you could.

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Speaker 2: From seventeen Uh yeah, I came in through Munaki Road

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Speaker 2: and you could hear it from there, could hear it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not surprised. I've never been to a Shakira show.

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Speaker 1: Imagine she puts on a good show.

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Speaker 4: Do you know who.

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Speaker 1: Shakira is, Paul, Yes, I do. How HEPSI commercials.

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Speaker 3: She has been on TV okay lot, She's done a

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Speaker 3: lot of guest spots off color me impressed. Well, that's

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Speaker 3: legit good, really terrific talented crossover artist.

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Speaker 1: Wow, what's her got her?

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Speaker 4: Greed?

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Speaker 1: On the other side, I can't believe Paul's breaking out

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Speaker 1: Shakira here.

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Speaker 2: Uh but let's get to our schedule breakdown, brought to

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Speaker 2: you by Ryder University, an official higher education part of

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Speaker 2: the New York Giants. Uh So, Paul, we obviously knew

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Speaker 2: who the opponents for the Giants we're going to be

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Speaker 2: since the end of the regular season, So the schedule

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Speaker 2: and the release of that schedule has to everything to

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Speaker 2: do with how those games are lined up on the schedule. So, uh,

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Speaker 2: just to kind of set the stage for fans that

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Speaker 2: might not know this, the Giants have the toughest strength

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Speaker 2: of schedule heading into the twenty twenty five regular season.

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Speaker 2: You might ask, hey, John, in the NFL, aren't the

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Speaker 2: teams with the worst're supposed to have the easier schedules.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's the design. But here's the problem with the

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Speaker 1: Giants this year. Only three games.

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Speaker 2: On each year's schedule are determined by record. So you

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Speaker 2: play one division in the NFC, your own division in

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Speaker 2: the NFC if you're the Giants, then you play one

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Speaker 2: AFC division, and then you play the team that finished

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Speaker 2: in the same place that you did in the other

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Speaker 2: two divisions in the NFC, and then one AFC division

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Speaker 2: that rotates every year. So the giants three strength of

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Speaker 2: schedule determined games this year are the Saints, the Patriots,

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Speaker 2: and then, believe it or not, the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 2: nine Ers finish in last place last year, so those

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Speaker 2: are the three strength of schedule games. So the reason

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Speaker 2: that the Giants have the toughest strength of schedule is

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Speaker 2: quite simple. The NFC East is really good. The Eagles

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Speaker 2: and the Commanders both finished with double digit wins last year,

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Speaker 2: and the Cowboys, even though they had a down year

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Speaker 2: seven is still not terrible, so they were right in

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Speaker 2: the mix two. And then you're playing what you could

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Speaker 2: argue was the best conference in the league and the

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Speaker 2: best division in the league.

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Speaker 1: Easy to argue best division in the NFC.

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Speaker 2: That's the NFC North, with three teams that made the

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Speaker 2: playoffs last year and a fourth in the Bears of

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Speaker 2: the new head coach and a first overall prick quarterback

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Speaker 2: and a lot of talented people on the roster. And

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Speaker 2: then in the AFC, the Giants at least are avoiding

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Speaker 2: the AFC North, which is probably the best division in

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Speaker 2: the AFC, but they got the second best division in

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Speaker 2: the AFC instead, they got the AFC West, which, as

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes went to another Super Bowl last year, had

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Speaker 2: won the two previous The Chargers are very good, the

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Speaker 2: you have the Las Vegas Raiders, who should be better

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Speaker 2: this year with Gino Smith as their starting quarterbacks. So

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Speaker 2: that's why the Giants had the tougher schedule. The reason

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Speaker 2: they buy last year's winning percentage have a tougher schedule

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Speaker 2: than both the than the Eagles and the Commanders is

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Speaker 2: that the Giants had to play those two teams with

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Speaker 2: better records. The Eagles and the Commanders have the Giants

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Speaker 1: So that's where we're at. So Paul, people, I'm not

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Speaker 2: You guys can go look at Giants dot com, you know,

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Speaker 2: wherever you go to get to check out your NFL information.

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Speaker 2: But Paul, I kind of separate this in the pose,

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Speaker 2: and I think there are a few things that are interesting,

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Speaker 2: but we can go look big picture first here, eight

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Speaker 2: out of the first thirteen games on the road, and

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Speaker 2: the first two games road division games at Washington at Dallas.

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Speaker 2: Only twice since the merger have the Giants opened this

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Speaker 2: season with two consecutive divisional road games. And that was

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Speaker 2: all the way back in nineteen seventy five and nineteen

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Speaker 2: seventy six. I had not been born yet. I think

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Speaker 2: Paul's around thirty five. At that point he was he

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Speaker 2: was rock and roll, and I think I was his

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Speaker 2: twelve year covering the team in seventy five, Paul, so

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Speaker 2: he is a good recollection of that. I do not,

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Speaker 2: but it's been a long time since you've seen two

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Speaker 2: road division games to start the season.

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Speaker 1: Again, Eight out of the first thirteen on the road,

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Speaker 1: which is certainly a challenge.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I do want to correct that. What's that nineteen

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Speaker 3: eighty four the Giants started with two road division games

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Speaker 1: I s stats and the stats that people told me

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Speaker 1: it was seventy five and seventy six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and in fact, who are the two games? Might

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Speaker 3: have to go back and look at eighty four.

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Speaker 4: I had it.

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Speaker 1: I'll look it up. You go ahead, I'll take it out.

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Speaker 3: Good look. Also, it's the first time they've got NFC

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Speaker 3: East battles in weeks one and two since two thousand

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Speaker 3: and nine, that's correct. I so that, and just the

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Speaker 3: third time since the year two thousand. Also, it will

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Speaker 3: be the first NFC East road opener since twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 3: And if Washington and Dallas seem to be very familiar

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Speaker 3: to you in September, that's because the Giants will have

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Speaker 3: played Washington and or Dallas within the first two weeks

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Speaker 3: of the regular season twelve times since twenty ten. And

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Speaker 3: do the math, this is only twenty twenty five. They

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Speaker 3: first two weeks of the season. In this case, they

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Speaker 2: How about that, you said eighty four, Paul, go back

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Speaker 2: to eighty four. They start with two home games in

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Speaker 2: at Washington is week three, So three divisional games to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the first two are home games. That's that's where

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Speaker 2: But again three straight and then you go back then

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Speaker 2: that thing it's about seventy five to seventy six. That

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Speaker 2: was just a fourteen game schedule, correct, No, seventy five

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Speaker 1: But I think what's.

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Speaker 2: Exciting about it is that one you hope you might,

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Speaker 2: you know, catch Washington before they get rolling Dallas as

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Speaker 2: a new coach, young offensive line. Two with the Giants passers,

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Speaker 2: maybe you can catch them a little bit early. Washington

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Speaker 2: also a lot of new pieces on the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: Larrymy Tunsel comes in, Brandon Coleman's probably going to be

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Sam Cosmy is coming off an injury too, we'll see

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Speaker 2: if he's gonna be back. So things to keep an

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Speaker 2: it doesn't get much easier. You get Week three home

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Speaker 1: Yeah, then you get a little bit of a reprieve.

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Speaker 1: You have you travel to New Orleans and the Saints.

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Speaker 2: Obviously they're a really good franchise, but they have an

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Speaker 2: issue a quarterback right now. Derek car announced its retirement

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Speaker 2: last week. You could have Tyler Shook there, you could

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Speaker 2: have Spencer Rattler there. It depends who that ends up being.

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Speaker 2: So that's a little bit of a reprieve. And then

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Speaker 2: which I was really surprised by Paul, because usually the

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Speaker 2: NFL likes to try to set up these games against

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Speaker 2: division opponents later in the year.

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Speaker 1: Correct, you set up two out of three against the

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles with a game at Denver in between. Very

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Speaker 1: strange to see in your first eight weeks four of

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Speaker 1: your divisional games out of your six. You do not

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Speaker 1: see that very often, and I actually think that's a

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Speaker 1: very bad thing for the Giants, see because when you're

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Speaker 3: As many of your divisional games as possible. Later on

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Speaker 3: in the season because you hate to scoreboard watch. You

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Speaker 3: don't know what's going to happen in the beginning of

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Speaker 3: least like to play games where you know you can

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Speaker 1: You want to control your own destiny without a doubt.

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Speaker 3: Correct, yes, you know. I had a big argument with

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Speaker 3: Matt on the show today on Giants dot Com on

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Speaker 3: big Wood kick Off Live Herd every weekday from twelve

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Speaker 3: thirty pm till one thirty pm Eastern Time. I had

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Speaker 3: a big argument with him today about it. If he

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Speaker 3: did not understand that concept. I said, Matt, please take

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Speaker 3: a seat here for a second and understand that if

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Speaker 3: you're trying to make a stretch run, you're trying to

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Speaker 3: make up ground. You don't want to have to scoreboard

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Speaker 3: watch every week. You'd rather beat the teams in your

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Speaker 2: I do kind of like those first two division games,

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Speaker 2: you can kind of set the tone for the season

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Speaker 2: if you can just split and get one of that that's.

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Speaker 3: Where he was countering with. And if you lose those

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Speaker 3: first two games, not only are you owing two, but

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Speaker 3: a big hole.

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Speaker 1: With your next two divisional games against the Eagles not good,

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Speaker 1: it makes winning one of those first two games pretty important.

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Speaker 3: How about almost mandatory.

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Speaker 1: So once you get past that great stretch. Oh, by

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Speaker 1: the way, it's not just three tough games in a

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Speaker 1: row home versus Philly on the Thursday. And that's by

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Speaker 1: the way, they're primetime games.

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Speaker 2: It's Kansas City Sunday Night, September twenty first, Eagles October ninth,

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Speaker 2: the Thursday I mentioned, that's at home.

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Speaker 1: Those are two of the primetime games.

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Speaker 2: The last prime time game is attempt December first, Monday

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Speaker 2: Night at New England. You got at Denver on the nineteenth,

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Speaker 2: October twenty sixth at Philly. Then you get to the

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Speaker 2: host of the Savages go forty nine ers on November two.

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Speaker 2: Oh and then, by the way, you get to play

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Speaker 2: three consecutive games against NFC North teams at Chicago home

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of good, all right. I kind of

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Speaker 2: And they are very liberal with flex scheduling. Now, and

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Speaker 2: Philly can move on October twenty six. That's correct, yes,

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Speaker 3: In theory one thing the.

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Speaker 3: Too, anyway, it depends on how good the Gypts are.

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Speaker 3: The league always tries to avoid giving a team three

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Speaker 1: More importantly, it's the Monday game. And you know what,

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Speaker 2: Yes, so that you do not have a short week

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Speaker 3: Especially if you have to go out west. That's correct,

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Speaker 1: I think Denver considering Denver West Coast, has a little

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Speaker 3: You're crossing time zones, correct there.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you're not on the Pacific times though, And

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Speaker 3: That's fair, that's fair, that's fair. But the coaches will

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Speaker 1: What is that like a four hour flight to Denver?

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Speaker 3: You know what, I can't remember we haven't been there

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Speaker 1: All right, lot coming your way here on the Giants

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Speaker 1: It's exciting. You have Mets Yankees. Juan Soto returns. I'm

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Yankee Stadium, I would imagine. And on

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Speaker 2: Nick's trying to close out the Celtics in a big

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Speaker 1: I will be in the house and hopefully I will

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Jimmy in Newton. He's gonna leave us

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, how you guys doing a big fan first time?

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Speaker 5: Not conducive to the time, you know at twelve thirty.

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Speaker 5: I just wanted to Paul double down today. He's all

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Speaker 5: But I mean, they got a scheme for a brand

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Speaker 5: You don't think, you guys, you don't think they could

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Speaker 2: I think, let me put it this way, generally, speaking Jimmy,

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Speaker 2: But from the fine specific perspective, the one thing I

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Speaker 3: You can if you want to, But this is a

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Speaker 3: philosophical point. And what it comes down to is this,

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Speaker 3: if you go into it with the Wellington Marath theory,

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Speaker 3: which is always below the most reasonable theory you could have.

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Speaker 3: You go in here and you lose those first two games. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you are now not just going too, but you're always

447
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Speaker 3: too in the division and that is a hole that

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Speaker 3: you do not want to have to crawl out of.

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Speaker 3: That is a bad, bad recipe for disaster.

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Speaker 2: And of course jammybe all say this, we have no

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Speaker 2: idea who's gonna be healthy for these things at the

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Speaker 2: start of the year. And this is why judging the

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Speaker 2: sched and I should have said that the opening segment,

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Speaker 2: judging this, and I will quote our cohort Lance Meta

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Speaker 2: on this one. You don't though who's going to be

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Speaker 2: healthy and who's gonna be on the field when you

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Speaker 2: play any of these teams. And that's all luck. I

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Speaker 2: go back to oh man, I forget what year was.

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Speaker 2: This must have been back in like twenty fourteen. There

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Speaker 2: was this terrible stretch of games, and it turns out

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Speaker 2: that Aaron Rodgers hurt, Scott Tolzen was starting a quarterback

462
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Speaker 2: with the Green Bay Packers, and you play played a

463
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Speaker 2: couple of these backup quarterbacks and the schedule and them

464
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Speaker 2: not being that bad because these guys weren't on the field.

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Speaker 2: So until we know what these teams look like when

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Speaker 2: the Giants face them, you're not gonna know.

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Speaker 1: And there's so much change from year to year. Some

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Speaker 1: teams are good one year, not so good the next. Now,

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Speaker 1: the funny thing is last year, for the first time

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Speaker 1: all the division winners had made the playoffs the previous season,

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Speaker 1: which is something that really had not happened very often,

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Speaker 1: so it was more consistent. But look, one of these teams, Jimmy,

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Speaker 1: that we think is gonna be really good, the Giants

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Speaker 1: are gonna face They're gonna end up being bad. One

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Speaker 1: of the teams we think are gonna be bad, they

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Speaker 1: could probably end up being good. That's just been unpredictable

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Speaker 1: to the NFL.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, the season to start, you

479
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Speaker 3: could have somebody hurt in the preseason or training camp

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Speaker 3: that immediately impacts one of these early.

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Speaker 1: Who is the player he popped? As are Darius Washington

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Speaker 1: for the Ravens, the safety popped his achilles in conditioning, Right,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, Jimmy.

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Speaker 5: I was just saying, excuse me, you don't think like

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Speaker 5: catching Daniels, Prescott, Mahomes, and Herbert. Those guys don't play

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Speaker 5: preseason games. Those guys are barely ramping up at the point.

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Speaker 1: You know, Andy Reid is pretty good about getting his

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Speaker 1: guys ready early.

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Speaker 3: He plays them and he gets them ready.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a good question about Jayden, it's a

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Speaker 2: good question about Jade and Daniels. My guess is that

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Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsbury is gonna have some new stuff in week

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Speaker 2: one that you're not going to expect. Is because he's

494
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Speaker 2: such a good offensive. Mind the Chargers, you get the

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Speaker 2: week four, you're kind of flowing at that point. I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't consider that. I mean a week four.

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Speaker 1: I think by week four you're doing pretty good. Are

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Speaker 1: you there yet? Maybe not, but I think you're getting

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Speaker 1: pretty close. I see what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: But again, you could put other good teams in the

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Speaker 2: fourth four weeks and not have two of the mean

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Speaker 2: division road games. I just don't like the two division

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Speaker 2: road games.

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Speaker 1: Like if you want, if you know this, switch Chavi,

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Speaker 1: if you wanted to switch out Commanders in Dallas and

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Speaker 1: slide in the brought the forty nine Ers and the

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Speaker 1: Bears or something like that, like that would have been fined. Again,

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Speaker 1: it's just more of a philosophical.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I gotcha. Well one more thing, And.

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Speaker 5: What do you think about the uh they're playing five

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Speaker 5: out of the six quarterbacks drafted last year? You know

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Speaker 5: in the first round, right that you know someone's gonna

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Speaker 5: have a sophomore slump in there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: No, they could. And look, I think you go back

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Speaker 1: to what se.

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Speaker 4: And the ones. A rookie, you know pretty much, Karthy excuse.

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Speaker 2: Me, no, no, no, absolutely, And look you go back

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Speaker 2: and two years ago everyone thought and I was one

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Speaker 2: of them. I thought he could be possibly the offensive

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Speaker 2: player of the year CJ Straud last year and he

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Speaker 2: ended up having a step back year in year two.

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Speaker 2: So you could have that for any of those rookie quarterbacks. Jimmy,

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Speaker 2: you're absolutely right and appreciate the call. You look at

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Speaker 2: those young quarterbacks. You don't know what Caleb william is yet.

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Speaker 2: You don't know what he's going to be with a

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Speaker 2: new coach and new cornet, new weapons. I think he's

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Speaker 2: gonna be good, But you don't know Dak Prescott in

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Speaker 2: the new system. But you do have Justin Herbert on

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Speaker 2: the schedule with the same coach. You have Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: with Andy Reid, who they've been together forever. You have

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts with Nick Sirianni. They're still there rock and roll. No,

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Speaker 2: Kellen Moore, I get that he left, he went to

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Speaker 2: the Saints, but Sirianni is still there.

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Speaker 1: You still have BONICKX with Sean Payton with the Lions.

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Speaker 1: You have Love with Lafloor. You have GoF with Campbell

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Speaker 1: but new offensive coordinator. Yes, so that's a little bit different.

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Speaker 2: And then you have you mentioned McCarthy, but Kevin O'Connell's

539
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Speaker 2: really good coach. And you have Pete Carroll with Gino Smith,

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Speaker 2: who obviously you are very familiar with each other. So

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Speaker 2: the thing that kind of and then I didn't even

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Speaker 2: mention Kyle Shanahan and Rock Purty.

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Speaker 1: I's got that one by accident. Yes, I think what

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Speaker 1: jumps out to me about the schedule is, my goodness, Paul,

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Speaker 1: the level of head coaches on this schedule.

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Speaker 2: It's ridiculous, is off the charts. And this is I've

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Speaker 2: never seen anything like this. Look, folks, Dan Quinn good coach.

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Speaker 2: You don't know about Shottenheimer yet, Andy Reid hall of famer.

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh potential to be a Hall of Famer. Not

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Speaker 2: there yet, he isn't one yet, but a chance. Then

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Speaker 2: you go to Syrian who's won a Super Bowl, Sean

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Speaker 2: Payton who's awesome, Shanahan who's terrific. You don't know Ben

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Speaker 2: Johnson yet. Lafleur's proven to be a really good coach,

554
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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell really good coach, and then you have Kevin O'Connell,

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Speaker 2: who's a really good quarterback guru, Pete Carroll in Vegas.

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Speaker 2: My goodness, the level of coaches on this schedule is

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Speaker 2: it just so happens what the divisions are playing.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy, very reminiscent of the late eighties when Parcells

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Speaker 3: was coaching the Giants, Oh with Gibbs, and you had Gibbs,

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Speaker 3: you had wallsall Dick. I mean, it just kept the.

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Speaker 1: List of coaches and he didn't go back, go back

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Speaker 1: to eighty sixy of Landry still with Dallas at that point, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know every week.

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Speaker 3: Parcells was going up against a mastermind, and of course

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Speaker 3: he was on his way to becoming a mastermind, no question.

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Speaker 2: But you do get a couple of rookie coaches in

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Speaker 2: there too, the Patriots obviously with their rookie coach, and

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Speaker 2: Dallas with their first.

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Speaker 1: Time head coach, and the Saints with Kella Morris. You

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Speaker 1: do have rookie coaches along the way.

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Speaker 2: And for Ben Johnson Ashleys, it's funny either like top

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Speaker 2: of the market potential Hall of Fame coaches or new

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Speaker 2: bore or newbies, which which is kind of funny, all right,

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Speaker 2: let's welcome in the voice of the Giants, Bob Papa,

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Speaker 2: who's working a golf tournament Birmingham, Right, Bob?

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Speaker 1: Is that where you're at?

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Speaker 4: We are here in Birmingham, Alabama for the first major

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Speaker 4: of the year for the PGA Tour champions and the

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Speaker 4: region's traditions. So yeah, it's pretty excited to be here.

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Speaker 4: We had an unbelievable day yesterday because they have the

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Speaker 4: pro am. He had Bo Jackson, Charles Barkley, Hugh Freeze,

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Speaker 4: Nick Saban, Kellen de boor, Kirby Smart, you name him.

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Speaker 4: They were all here, Greg mclroy, Larrol much John.

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Speaker 3: Why the Howard Cross? Come on? Howard Howard in Alabama?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he loves golf, but I'm not sure he's a

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Speaker 4: big enough name to play them.

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Speaker 1: It's Fuddy Bob.

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Speaker 2: I was wondering why Barkley was on inside the NBA

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Speaker 2: two nights ago. Now I don't wow.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he never misses this event. I mean, they

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Speaker 4: had ten thousand people on property yesterday and it was

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Speaker 4: absolutely insane. And you know, it's a PGA Tour champions

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Speaker 4: event on the week of a major championship on the

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Speaker 4: regular tour. But this thing is it's insane here in Birmingham,

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Speaker 4: and they were off to a really good start because

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Speaker 4: we've got tremendous leaders on top of the leader board,

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Speaker 4: so it's gonna be a lot of fun. So we're

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Speaker 4: enjoying our time here in Birmingham.

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Speaker 1: Our interview with Bob Papa is brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Slumman's The Difference is Human. All right, Bob, you saw

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Speaker 1: the schedule like the rest of us coming out on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday night. Your thoughts on what you saw on what

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Speaker 1: kind of jumped out at you?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: The Giants have to play two road games against this

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Speaker 4: Commanders and Cowboys to start the year. They're gonna be

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Speaker 4: owing two and then they got the cheese. They're gonna

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Speaker 4: be owing three, and they're gonna be owing four when

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Speaker 4: they played the Chargers. Shut up, listen. The Giants were

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Speaker 4: a Elik Neighbors drop pass and an injured ticker away

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Speaker 4: from beating the Commanders last year. And do we know

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Speaker 4: what kind of head coach Bryan Schottenheimer is gonna be?

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Speaker 4: We know what the Cowboys are gonna be. The Cowboys

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Speaker 4: that much better than the Giants. I don't know. They

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Speaker 4: might be, but they may not. Be new coordinators too, right,

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Speaker 4: new coordinators Matt eber Flus. I know he's a good DC,

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Speaker 4: but whatever, listen, it is what it is. We can

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Speaker 4: all worry about it right now. And for all those

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Speaker 4: Giant fans that keep adding me on x about how

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Speaker 4: could Tina had three wins last year have the hardest

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Speaker 4: schedule in the NFL, dude, go to Giants dot com.

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Speaker 4: I can tell you what the Giant schedule. They can

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Speaker 4: tell you what the Giants schedule is going to be

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Speaker 4: in two thousand and thirty. It's a rotation. Okay, it's

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Speaker 4: a rotation. It's it just so happens to be your

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Speaker 4: your straightest. Is really difficult because the Commanders made the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: the Eagles won the Super Bowl, and they had an

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Speaker 4: unbelievable record. You're playing the North, which had two fourteen

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Speaker 4: win teams last year, and you're playing the AFC West

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Speaker 4: that had playoff teams last year of them, so like relax,

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Speaker 4: it's based off last year. It has nothing to do

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Speaker 4: with what's going to happen this year. So you take

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Speaker 4: them as they come and you knock them down them.

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Speaker 4: You see what you see and you have no idea

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Speaker 4: what the injury levels are going to be of teams

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Speaker 4: and who's going to get hurt and whatever. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: it looks hard on paper, but you know, there's a

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Speaker 4: reason why every season we spend most of December talking

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Speaker 4: about the teams that made the playoffs last year that

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Speaker 4: won't and the new teams that make the playoffs every

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Speaker 4: year in the NFL, So they get for what it is.

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Speaker 4: It is what it is, But I wouldn't worry about

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Speaker 4: it too much.

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Speaker 3: In maydd. The one thing that a lot of coaches

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Speaker 3: do worry about is where they're going to get their

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Speaker 3: buy The Giants wind up with a bye in Week

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Speaker 3: fourteen this season. Far for me, that's a little late,

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Speaker 3: to be honest. I kind of like it to be

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Speaker 3: like week ten if I could get it and had

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Speaker 3: my druthers your thoughts on the fourteen that's terrible.

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Speaker 4: I was talking to John marrat two nights ago at

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Speaker 4: the Boys Hope Girls Hope of New York event in

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Speaker 4: New York City, Division of Hope, and you know, the

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Speaker 4: buye is coming way too late. I mean, no one

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Speaker 4: wants to buy where their bye is. I mean, you

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Speaker 4: have four games left in the season before you have

657
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 4: your bye. It's it's not ideal. Nobody, there's nobody in

658
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 4: the world that would sign up for that.

659
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 3: But it's too late to make an at that point,

660
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: you know, it's really late.

661
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: No, it is what it is.

662
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 4: But if you're a Giants fan, I don't know what.

663
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 4: I don't know what this season is going to bring.

664
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 4: But I think if you're any Giant fan at this

665
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 4: point in time, with four games to go in the season, right,

666
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 4: so that means you've played thirteen games of your seven

667
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 4: gen games. If you're sticks and seven through thirteen games,

668
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 4: and you have a buye and you have four games

669
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 4: left to play, and you have a chance at that

670
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 4: point in time to insert yourself in a wild card race,

671
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 4: whether you make it or not, I think any Giants

672
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 4: fan would sign up for that. And I think yeah,

673
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 4: And I think if the Giants go into those into

674
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 4: their buy a game below five hundred, a game above

675
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 4: five hundred, and you say, Okay, we're gonna roll the

676
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 4: dice now and see how these last four games turn out,

677
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 4: which are not the worst four games, you could possibly

678
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 4: have three home games down the stretch, Yeah, three of

679
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 4: the four home games, and say, hey, if you win

680
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 4: three of these you're gonna make the playoffs at nine

681
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 4: and eight. If you win all four, you're going to

682
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 4: definitely make the playoffs. I think any Giant fan would

683
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 4: sign up for that. I think John, you and I

684
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 4: have talked about this off the record. I think the

685
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 4: Giant organization is just hoping that when you go Christmas

686
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 4: shopping and you're planning tor the holiday parties, that you're

687
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 4: at a Saturday night holiday party and you're excited for

688
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 4: the game the next day, saying that, man, if we

689
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 4: can win this one, to give us one step closer

690
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 4: to maybe making the playoffs, that's all you want. You

691
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 4: just don't want to be eliminated before you go trick

692
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 4: or treating, and you don't want to be eliminated before Thanksgiving.

693
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to be sitting there with your turkey

694
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: leg in your hand, talking about how the Giants can

695
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: make the playoffs.

696
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: So that's what you want, Yeah, and.

697
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 4: Guessing about how they can and and if you get

698
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 4: to that buy and you get to those last four games,

699
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 4: and however it shakes out, you win two of the four,

700
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 4: but maybe it's it's not good enough to get in.

701
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 4: At least every Giant fan on the planet will feel like, Okay,

702
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 4: we're trending in the right direction. And here's the one

703
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 4: or two eras that have to be tightened up via

704
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 4: free agency in the next draft to elevate us to

705
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 4: become like a force in the division and start challenging

706
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 4: in the division. Everybody will sign up for that, all right, Bob,

707
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 4: somebody will sign up for that, no question.

708
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: Put your play by play man headset on. You could

709
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: take all of the circumstances into consideration here, selfishness, wherever

710
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: you want to look at in terms of like what's

711
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: good for you anything? What game are you most looking

712
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: forward to calling, Bob, Papa Giants play by play guy

713
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: looking at the schedule, Well, it's the home opener.

714
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 4: Okay, you got the Kansas City Chiefs and you've got

715
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 4: Spags coming in and boom, here we go. Like you know,

716
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 4: like everyone's like, oh, the Giants will be going too,

717
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 4: Like how.

718
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: Do you know, No, nobody knows.

719
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 6: How do you know?

720
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 4: Like, is Dallas that much better than you based on

721
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 4: what I mean? Yes, they have owned the Giants, and

722
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 4: they have owned the Giants in Dallas and Washington will

723
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 4: be tough. Okay, I got all that, but it's not

724
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 4: like it's completely out of your reach because I think

725
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 4: the Giants are a way better football team now than

726
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 4: the team that left the field in the final game

727
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 4: of the regular season last year. But look, you got

728
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 4: Spags coming back, you got the homes, you got Sunday

729
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 4: night primetime game is gonna be awesome. Then you have

730
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 4: that Eagles twice in three weeks. I mean, that's going

731
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 4: to be intriguing, right, But who knows? I mean, who

732
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 4: knows what Philadelphia. I'm not saying that they're not the

733
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 4: class of the division, but let's take our chances with

734
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 4: all that, you know. I'm looking forward to it, man,

735
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 4: I want to see the Giants play the Chargers. I

736
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 4: want to see what that looks like. I don't know.

737
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 4: I'm just I look at the schedule as an opportunity.

738
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 4: I don't look at it as a negative.

739
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, how about this bother. Let me follow

740
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: this way.

741
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: Of all the road games. You know, we've been to

742
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: all these stadiums at this point, we've been in every

743
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 2: one of these boots. I'm not I don't travel every

744
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: week anymore. The game i'd be excited about is going

745
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: to Denver, just because we only get to go there

746
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: once every eight years. We were recently in Vegas, we've

747
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 2: been there before. I'd be punted about going to Denver.

748
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: You know, it's just a state. We don't get to

749
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 2: see a lot. It's a really good atmosphere. It's a

750
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: good place to call a game. They got a good team,

751
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 2: showing Payton that that's a game that I think, just

752
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,959
Speaker 2: travel wise and doing a game in a fun place

753
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: like that at four o'clock in Denver, that should be

754
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: a pretty fun atmosphere.

755
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that should be. Look, I'm looking forward to that.

756
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 4: Sean Payton, you know, bone Knicks, they got a good team, Dots.

757
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: You know what, here's how I know that there's people

758
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 4: in the media that follow what you say and what

759
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 4: we say. Okay, Pauli Dotts and I were sitting in

760
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 4: the Giants Cafeturea the day before the schedule came out.

761
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 4: He was doing bb he was doing VBK Live and

762
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 4: he goes, all right, what do you think, Bob, what

763
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 4: do you think? Gut feeling, I said, I believe the

764
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 4: Giants going to open up the season on the road

765
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 4: at Denver against the Broncos on Monday night. Really because why,

766
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 4: I said, Well, think about it. Sean Payton has ties

767
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 4: for the Giants. They're coming off a playoff year. You

768
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 4: got bone Nicks, and then you have Russell Wilson, the

769
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 4: former quarterback of the Broncos who projected to be the

770
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 4: starter for the Giants, said that would be a sexy

771
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 4: Monday night matchup. Paul's like, can I use that on BBK? So, Paul,

772
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 4: I'm assuming you threw that out there on V I

773
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 4: sure did.

774
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 3: I sure did. I concurred with your logic. It made

775
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: a lot of sense to me.

776
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 4: Well, by the way, how many writers picked up on

777
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 4: saying sources, I'm hearing the Giants are going to open

778
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 4: up at Denver.

779
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: Funny.

780
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 3: A bunch of them did, but a lot of them.

781
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 4: So that means they were watching BBK and they were listening,

782
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 4: and you and I were just kind of spitball on it.

783
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 4: I know, and I also and I also said I

784
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 4: would not be shocked if the Giants play the Patriots

785
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 4: on Thursday Night Football. Early in the season, I thought,

786
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 4: like Week three, Week four, at the Giants in primetime,

787
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 4: Giants Patriots, the Super Bowls, the whole thing, Drake May

788
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 4: year two. Now we are getting them on Thursday Night.

789
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 4: But it's later in the year. I really thought that'd

790
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 4: be earlier in the year. I was.

791
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: Close enough. Monday Thursday, same deal.

792
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's a primetime game.

793
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 3: Yes.

794
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 4: I thought it would be an early season Thursday night

795
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 4: game because we don't know what the Patriots are going

796
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 4: to do, and we don't know what the Giants season

797
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 4: arc would look like. And I thought Amazon Prime would

798
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 4: want a New York game early. So I was wrong

799
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 4: on that one. But it's amazing how many of the

800
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 4: people that cover the Giants listen to Paul Datino on

801
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 4: BBK and started connecting dots and suddenly reporting hearing Giants

802
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 4: Bronco was week one.

803
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: And that was not only was it spitballing, Bob between

804
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: you and I when when we were throwing it out

805
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: there on the show, we were just talking about things

806
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: we'd like to see. We weren't even telling people that

807
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 3: we have a gut feeling or that, you know, we've

808
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: got some crumbs that indicate this could be happening here.

809
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 3: That that was just what I got right exactly. My

810
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: gut feeling was that made up.

811
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 4: I thought there'd be two Monday night games to start

812
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 4: the season. I thought the Giants and Broncos would be

813
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 4: a perfect fit for the second Monday night game.

814
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 3: They're all closet fans, and that probably wrong. That's all.

815
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 3: It comes down to, the closet fans.

816
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 4: I was I was wrong. I was I was wrong. Hey. Look,

817
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 4: you know, like look at the Saints game later in

818
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 4: the year, right, I mean so going going in New

819
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 4: Orleans has been a all you've lived it, smelk, you

820
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 4: were producing most of these broadcasts on site. Going to

821
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 4: New Orleans has been an absolute disaster for the Giants.

822
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: Night before it is fun. The games have not been

823
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: very fun though, correct.

824
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 4: But you look at this, You look at this Saints team,

825
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 4: and you look at their quarterback room right now. You

826
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 4: can't wait to get to New Orleans to play the same.

827
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: Drew Brees walking through that door.

828
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 4: That is true. Yeah, yeah, so you know, listen, I'm

829
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 4: I'm intrigued by it. I'm fascinated by it. I can't

830
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 4: wait for it to start. I can't wait for the

831
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 4: Week one game in Washington against the Commanders. They're a

832
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 4: good team and Jayden Daniels is a good player, and

833
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 4: he's one of the better quarterbacks in the NFL. But like,

834
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 4: I'll take my chances against Washington. You know, let's go,

835
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 4: let's let's let's bring it Bob.

836
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 2: In our second hour, we're gonna focus on the rookie class.

837
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 2: You have sixty seconds. Just give me your feel seeing

838
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: the giants, rookies in the building for the first time,

839
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 2: putting the helmets in uniform on.

840
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 4: Oh, you guys can co sign this. I mean, we

841
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 4: around for a while and it's been a long time

842
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 4: since they were A rookie class has energized the building.

843
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 4: I think you got to go back to Saquon when

844
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 4: they even though that look. I know there's a lot

845
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: of giant fans that are saque the haters as far

846
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 4: as why they took him where they did, and probably

847
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 4: was a mistake to take them when they took them.

848
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 4: But Take One brought energy. Odell brought energy, and this

849
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 4: rookie class has changed the dynamic and that building. Not

850
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 4: it's Carter, it's a quarterback. It's what they drafted in

851
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 4: the third round, it's what they got in the fourth round.

852
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 4: This is the first time in a long time that

853
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 4: the draft class has energized the building, from the people

854
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 4: that sell suites to marketing to everything in between. And

855
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's really cool to what

856
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 4: they've done with the draft, and it really feels like

857
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 4: for once the draft fell there. And we all know

858
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 4: about the Kadarius Tony draft where and other drafts where

859
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 4: the drafts have gone sideways for the Giants or it

860
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: didn't fall the right way, it feels like it fell

861
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 4: in their direction. And I'm bringing this perspective from people

862
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 4: that I've talked with that do not work for the Giants,

863
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 4: that works for other teams. Because I do a show,

864
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 4: I'm serious, so I speak to people around the league,

865
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 4: and unanimously there's a lot of people that work in

866
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 4: the front office of other teams around the NFL that like, damn,

867
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 4: that draft fell perfectly for the Giants.

868
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of times it takes some luck. Bob,

869
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: enjoy the tournament, my friend. Good talking to you is

870
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: always stay safe. To see up here in a couple weeks.

871
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 4: See soon, all right.

872
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Speaker 1: Pauli Dott.

873
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 4: Next time we talk in the cafeteria, We're gonna send

874
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 4: those beat writers in the wrong direction again. I love it.

875
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: Voice of the Giants.

876
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: Bob Poppa coming to us from Birmingham, Alabama, joining us

877
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: on the Giants schedule. Release special. That interview with Bob

878
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: was brought to you by Sloman's. The Difference is Human.

879
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick time out right here

880
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: on the show. We'll come back, and we'll come back

881
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: have a little roundtable feature before we wrap up the hour.

882
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 2: Right here on the fan, we're back on the Giants

883
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 2: schedule at Least special presented by United Official Airline of

884
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 2: the New York Giants, johnsh Belt, Paul Thattino, if you will,

885
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: taking your calls at eight eight eight eight h eight

886
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: one zero, one to nine, it's time for our roundtable discussion,

887
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: brought to you by Sloman's. The Difference is Human, Paul,

888
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 2: I got three Factor fiction questions for you here.

889
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: You're ready to go, Let's do it all right.

890
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 2: Next hour, we're gonna do a lot of rookie minicamps,

891
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: so stay tuned for that as well and more of

892
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 2: your calls, Paul, Factor Fiction. The toughest four game stretch

893
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: in the Giants schedule is the first four games of

894
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: the schedule.

895
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: Fact or fiction.

896
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 3: I've got to go fact here, you're talking about three

897
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: playoff teams from last year with the Commanders, the Chiefs

898
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 3: and the Chargers and the Cowboys. Well, let's face it,

899
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 3: even if you want to talk about them being a

900
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: sub five hundred team, we know they had a lot

901
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: of injuries. They've got more talent than that. And oh,

902
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: by the way, over the past decade, John, they've pretty

903
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 3: much owned the in the rivalry. So for those reasons, yeah,

904
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 3: I'd have to go there. I will say you could

905
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: make a somewhat good case if you wanted to for

906
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 3: the Eagles, Broncos, Eagles and forty nine Ers. That's where

907
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 3: I'm going to stretch. That's where I'm going. And look,

908
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: I understand that two of those four games are at home,

909
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 3: same in your row. I think the forty nine Ers

910
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 3: is gonna be a lot better this year, So I

911
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: think that's a really tough game. I think they're probably

912
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 3: gonna be better than both the Commanders and the Cowboys,

913
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, and we know how good

914
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: the Eagles are and the Broncos. We'll see about Bonnicks

915
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 3: if you can have a continue the success at the

916
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: end of his rookie year. But he's got a great

917
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 3: situation around him with an offensive line and wide receiver,

918
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: So that to me is the toughest four game stretch.

919
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 3: You can make the argument too for Packers, Lions, Bears

920
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: the problem and forty nine ers that's another one. But

921
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 3: you just don't know what the Bears are gonna be,

922
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: So I think that's why I could not include that

923
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 3: particular stretch, all right, Statement number two, Paul, the best

924
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 3: game if you're a fan to attend MetLife Stadium to

925
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 3: see this year is three the home opener against the Chiefs.

926
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: I'll go back to what Bob Papa just said about

927
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 3: the game he wants to really call this season, and

928
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 3: that is the home opener against Kansas City. It's Patrick Mahomes.

929
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 3: You and I talked about this during the week. The

930
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 3: Chiefs will not be back here unless there's some kind

931
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 3: of scheduling situation where they finish on the same slot

932
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: as the Giants. You know, we know about those three

933
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 3: games that are always the question mark on the schedule

934
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: outside of the rotation. We may not see Patrick Mahomes

935
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 3: in this building for.

936
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: Another eight years, or you might never see him in

937
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: this building at all.

938
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 3: And we won't see Kelsey in this building.

939
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: Again, Ohae correct, or maybe Chris Jones. So so again,

940
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: I'm with you. Just the fact that you might never

941
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 2: see Patrick Mahomes here again. You know, Paul is gonna

942
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: be lined up at the tunnel the way for Taylor

943
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: Swift to walk into the building. He's very excited about that.

944
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 3: So it'll be you believe that, folks, I'll sell you

945
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 3: a bridge.

946
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 2: And Brooks, Hey, you were just you were just breaking

947
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 2: Shakira down forty five minutes ago. So I'm not gonna

948
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: pry anything past you at the Tino. But look that

949
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: that has to be it for me. If you want

950
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 2: to go to a game, it's met Life Stadium, it's early.

951
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 2: If you win one of those first two games, there's

952
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: just great energy in the building. You're feeling great about yourself.

953
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: For shure, I know primetime games can be tough. It's late.

954
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: It's a little bit difficult with that, I understand. Don't care.

955
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: You get to see Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelcey to

956
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: future Hall of famers and person and frankly Chris Jones

957
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: gonna be Hall of Famer two, let's be honest and quickly.

958
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: And Andy Read's gonna be Hall of Famer two. Go

959
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: see it.

960
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 3: Really good news though, because if the Giants don't have

961
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: a great season and this game was later on in

962
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 3: November or December.

963
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: You probably have a lot of people giving up there, right,

964
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: and you also have good weather. You're gonna have good

965
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: weather in September two, so that's gonna be very very

966
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: packed Giants crowd. And by the way, if you want tickets, guys,

967
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: to go to Giants dot com slash tickets, single game tickets,

968
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: season tickets. Become a season ticket member of Giants dot

969
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: com slash tickets to find tickets to any of the

970
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: Giants home games this year.

971
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: Go check that out.

972
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: Final statement, Paul, before we got to break here, very quick,

973
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: give me fifteen seconds. The NFC North is a tougher

974
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: matchup than the AFC West.

975
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: I'm not buying that. I'm going to West. And part

976
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: of the reason is, as you know I am, we're

977
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 3: gonna agree again.

978
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: Well I'm sorry sometimes we do know how you know,

979
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: But you know I'm gonna be wrong about all of

980
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: these now because we both agreed on it.

981
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 3: That's the way.

982
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: And here's why I have more faith. And I think

983
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: the Bear's gonna be pretty good this year. But I

984
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 2: like Pete Carroll with Gino Smith in Vegas. I give

985
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 2: them a little bit of an advantage over Ben Jhonson

986
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: and the Bears is because I think he's gonna be

987
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 2: a good coach.

988
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: Is just his first year.

989
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know what Kayleb Williams is quite yet.

990
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 2: You know Geno's pretty good. So that's why I'm giving

991
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 2: the Raiders the edge over them. And then you, I

992
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 2: mean yes, and then Jami McCarthy on he's.

993
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: Gonna be either.

994
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: I'm with you quarterbacks. Is the difference for me?

995
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 4: All right?

996
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: That roundtable segment was brought to you by Slowman's. The

997
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: difference is human, all right. That's our first hour here

998
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: on the Giants Schedulely Special presented by the United Official

999
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: Airline of the Giants. Rookie Mini Camp Talk coming up

1000
00:45:54,719 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: next to our number two stick with us all right,

1001
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 2: Hour two of the Giants Schedule Release Special presented by

1002
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 2: the United Official Airline of the New York Giants. John

1003
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: schmulc Pauldatino with you taking your calls votes, get on

1004
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 2: the line. Eight eight eight eighth eight one zero one

1005
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 2: nine eight eight eight Italy one zero one nine Big

1006
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: Sports Weekend schedule release last night, of course coming up,

1007
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 2: we have Nick Celtics tomorrow. It looks like the Nuggets

1008
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 2: are about to extend the Western Conference Final to seven

1009
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: games in Oklahoma City. They lead by ten one o nine,

1010
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: nine to nine with just over two minutes to go.

1011
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: This has been a heck of a series.

1012
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: The NBA plus has some really nice games, and you

1013
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: hope the Knicks can play as well at home as

1014
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: the Nuggets are tonight against the thunder What a few.

1015
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 3: Times in recent memory, I think where you know, a

1016
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 3: lot of people criticize the NBA, and I get it,

1017
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 3: the regular seasons really long, but these NBA playoffs have

1018
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: been better than the NCAA tournament this year.

1019
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: Then you got the Subway Series over the weekend as

1020
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 2: well with the Yankees host of the Mets. So a

1021
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: lot of fun stuff come up this weekend in the

1022
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: world of sports. Hope you guys check that out. A

1023
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: lot of coverage of course, right here on the fan

1024
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 2: check out the Yankees right here on the fan. All right, Paul,

1025
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 2: the time for a Rookie Mini Camp wrap up, brought

1026
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: to you by Slowman's The Difference is human. I'm gonna

1027
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 2: start by saying this, what happens on the field of

1028
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: Rookie Mini camp Pump the brakes. The large majority and

1029
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 2: when I say large majority, I'm talking like seventy percent

1030
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: of the players on the field are tryout players that

1031
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: might never play it down in the National are good chance.

1032
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: I've never play it down in the National Football League,

1033
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 2: So how these guys perform. There's no pads. None of

1034
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 2: the draft picks did any of the seven on seven

1035
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 2: drills except for Jackson Dart. So it's good to see

1036
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: him out there, good to see him run around, see

1037
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: him put the helmet on, see him put the jersey on. Exciting, awesome,

1038
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 2: But I saw some people putting up like what Jackson

1039
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: Dart's completion percentage was through two days of practice.

1040
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 3: By the way, only through seven on sevens. Goodness, there's no.

1041
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: Pass rush, no real plays, so it was full speed.

1042
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 2: But still, like, don't take that seriously, guys, it doesn't matter.

1043
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: I thought Jackson dor threw the ball well. I thought

1044
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 2: in person, the ball popped out of his hands pretty good.

1045
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: I was down at the Senior Ball and Mobile. I

1046
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: saw him throw down there. I thought there was some

1047
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 2: a little bit better pop, to be honest with you,

1048
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: throwing the ball here in the practice facility up close

1049
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: to what I saw down in Mobile at the Senior Bowl.

1050
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: So you're happy about that ball, but this isn't work

1051
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: trying to get a feel for these players and kind

1052
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 2: of what they're all about.

1053
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 3: I think the most important thing that I got from

1054
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 3: watching Dart was that on the second day of the

1055
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 3: rookie Mini camp, the wins were fifteen to twenty miles

1056
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 3: an hour on a consistent basis, with gusts up to

1057
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 3: thirty Now, anybody who's been to the Meadowlands knows how

1058
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: nasty those windy conditions can be out on the feet.

1059
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was not.

1060
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: I had my daughter's first communion on Saturday, so I

1061
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: was not at practice. I was at the indoor one

1062
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 2: on Friday in the rain, right.

1063
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 3: And so this, to me was the most impressive thing

1064
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 3: I can say about Jackson darn physically. What I took

1065
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 3: from his seven on sevens is that he was mostly

1066
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 3: not on every throw, but mostly very accurate, spun the ball,

1067
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 3: terrific spiral in terms of cutting through the wind, and

1068
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 3: had no problem at all even throwing the ball thirty

1069
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 3: forty fifty yards downfield despite really really strong Meadowlands wins.

1070
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 3: And just as a comparison, and folks don't go nuts

1071
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 3: now on this because I remember when Pat Hanlin.

1072
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: Don't make these slappy bats out of that. What are

1073
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: you gonna say?

1074
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 3: Pat Handlin, the Giants VP of Communications, he still to

1075
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 3: this day bust my horns because I was here the

1076
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 3: first day that Eli Manning came to Giants rookie mini caos.

1077
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 3: What did you say? He practiced out on the grass

1078
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 3: field and it was a disaster. Everybody knows it. It

1079
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 3: was reported everywhere. It was a disaster. Wounded ducks left

1080
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 3: and right of the target, in the ground, overthrown, he

1081
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 3: couldn't hit the side of a barn. You wrote him

1082
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 3: off career over And I was reporting as a beat

1083
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 3: guy for another sports radio station and I flat out set.

1084
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 4: On the air.

1085
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 3: He reminded me of Dave Brown on that first rookie

1086
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 3: mini camp pract.

1087
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: So after the first tew World, did Pat yell down

1088
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: the hall? Hey, diddata does he still look like Dave Brown?

1089
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 3: He has probably come back and haunted me over that report,

1090
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 3: which by the way, was very accurate at least ten.

1091
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: Or twelve mins back then.

1092
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 2: Paul was a young and impressionable forty five years old

1093
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: back then, so yell yeah, yeah, right, like fifty five

1094
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 2: years old.

1095
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: He had learned to that yet back then, so it's fine.

1096
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 3: So you know, obviously Eli rebounded from that day very well.

1097
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 3: And who knows, maybe Jackson Dart will do really really

1098
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 3: well in his career, or maybe it will not. It

1099
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 3: doesn't really matter, but it was impressive how he navigated

1100
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 3: the wind.

1101
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 2: Okay, And we'll get to Mara Jackson Dart in our

1102
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 2: next segment, but let's get to Abduall Carter. We talked

1103
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 2: about trying to get a feel for these players over

1104
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 2: the course of rookie mini camp. We've talked to them

1105
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 2: on conference calls and on zooms on an interviews, but

1106
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 2: the first time we kind of got them in person

1107
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: with the New York media in a more of a

1108
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: conversational setting when the guys are not just like flying

1109
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: because they just got drafted in the NFL for the

1110
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 2: first time. So it was a good and you know,

1111
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: they had the little press comments of the day after,

1112
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: but they're still kind of basking in the glow.

1113
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 3: This is more like Questria.

1114
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: Talking about them as a player for the Giants, not

1115
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: talking about them as a player that just got drafted.

1116
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: So let's hear from Abduel Carter. He did speak during

1117
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 1: Rookie Mini Camp.

1118
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 7: I would just say pulling more people to like like

1119
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 7: just getting extra working, Like after price today, we just

1120
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 7: got all the guys that was there in the room

1121
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 7: with me to got some extra working after practice like

1122
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 7: things like that. Just not only making myself better, but

1123
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 7: pulling people to make them better too comfortable. Yeah, I

1124
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 7: just I like having fun out here. When I'm out

1125
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 7: here with the paths on, with my helmet on, I

1126
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 7: feel like that's why I'm at my best. I don't know,

1127
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 7: I just fit in the most, want to feel just

1128
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 7: being out here having fun.

1129
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 8: What kind of line background Giants fans gonna see on

1130
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 8: some afternoons.

1131
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 7: I an't warning about Sunday right now. I'm just focused

1132
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 7: on Rookie Minie Camp singing everyday, one day at a time.

1133
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 8: The Giants released their behind the scenes video of you

1134
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 8: on your like thirty visit here. Yeah, and one of

1135
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 8: the coaches said to you, like can you learn all

1136
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 8: five positions? And you were like, I learn more if

1137
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 8: you want to learn that is that something you expect?

1138
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 8: Like I'm gonna have to learn all eleven positions, Like I.

1139
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 4: Need to know the entire I don't know abouhore eleven.

1140
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 3: But just what everybody's doing on everything.

1141
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 7: I was talking to you can want to line up

1142
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 7: at full back tight and blocks and said, so, whoever

1143
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 7: they need me, i'ma line up at and.

1144
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 2: Look, I think what you got, Abdul car this press

1145
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: comments is the same thing that you got. And the

1146
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: that was Ryan Dunleavy. You asked that question for the

1147
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 2: New York Post. And the behind the scenes video is

1148
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 2: talking about the Giants released Giants Life, which is their

1149
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 2: documentary series. It came at us on the Giants YouTube channel,

1150
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 2: Part one, which focuses on Abdul Carter, part two, which

1151
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: focuses on Jackson Dart. You guys should go check that

1152
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 2: out again Giants YouTube channel, Giants dot Com app.

1153
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: And he just is He gives short, serious, to the

1154
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: point answers, but he has a level.

1155
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is not gonna be a guy that I

1156
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 2: feel like is gonna be like doing a bunch of

1157
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 2: like extracurricular activities. He is just all about football. There's

1158
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: gonna be no extraneous nonsense. This guy just wants to

1159
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: go out there and punish opposing offenses. And look, you

1160
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: can see him just moving out there. He moves a

1161
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 2: little bit differently when you see him next in looks.

1162
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: All he did was DROs. He didn't do any seven

1163
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: on seven, nothing competitive.

1164
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 3: He just his burst.

1165
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: His get off was just different than anyone else that

1166
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 2: was out there on the practice field.

1167
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: Over the course of those two days.

1168
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 3: Two things to note off of that John Number one,

1169
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 3: it's kind of weird to talk about a college guy

1170
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 3: coming into the NFL and saying, Wow, we're amazed. He

1171
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 3: kind of looks and sounds like a pro because the

1172
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 3: Nils have kind of made them pros in college, so.

1173
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: The cornor Still he's a younger guy too. He's not

1174
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 2: one of these guys that have been in school for

1175
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: five or six years.

1176
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 3: No, no, he's not. But certainly at Penn State, sure,

1177
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 3: you know that's kind of a pro situation, and so

1178
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 3: he certainly has adapted to that type of environment and

1179
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 3: it shows. The other thing is you remember about the

1180
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 3: stress issue, the distress reaction issue, about the weakness in

1181
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 3: the bottom of his foot that was discovered at the combine.

1182
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 3: He did all the drills at the Giants rookie mini camp.

1183
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 3: He didn't do seven on sevens. Coach said only Jackson.

1184
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 3: Dart's gonna do seven on sevens because we want to

1185
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 3: get him familiar with the snaps and the cadences and

1186
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 3: getting familiar with throwing the ball and doing the dropbacks.

1187
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 2: And the reason for that, by the way, is that

1188
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: all these other prospects have been so into doing like

1189
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 2: the Olympic style training for the combine and stuff. They

1190
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: want to make sure they're conditioned for football before they

1191
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 2: have to do football things do on ovoid injury that way,

1192
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 2: And so we got to look.

1193
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 3: At Abdul Carter, who was able to do all of

1194
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 3: the positional drills, including the quick step, the high step,

1195
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 3: and the stop and start the back pedals. He did

1196
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 3: every drill that every one of the other linebackers did.

1197
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 3: And so I think anyybody who still has some concerns

1198
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 3: about that foot situation. Look, his agent had said Drew

1199
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 3: Rosenhaus during the second checks before the draft that it

1200
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 3: wasn't going to be a problem. Joe Shane said it

1201
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 3: wouldn't be an impediment to draft him. Well, clearly those

1202
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 3: guys were telling them the truth because they didn't hold

1203
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 3: him back during the rookie minicamp. He did everything all

1204
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 3: of the other linebackers dated by the way. That's the

1205
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 3: other point I should make. He is working at this

1206
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 3: time with the outside linebackers in that room, yeah.

1207
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 2: Which is where we expect him to be. You know,

1208
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 2: you watched him in Giants' life. He was with Charlie Bowllen,

1209
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 2: the Giants outlinebacker coach. That's where Brian Burns is. That's

1210
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 2: why kveon Tibbetts.

1211
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: Over time they may expand.

1212
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and those guys are different now.

1213
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: And those guys do do some pass rushing stuff with sure,

1214
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: with Andre Patterson and the defensive lineman, so you can

1215
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: get mixed in and there a little bit too.

1216
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: So that was our mini caamp wrap up, brought to

1217
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: you by Sloman's. The difference is human eight eight eight

1218
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 1: eight oh eight one zero one to nine. Hey, Connor,

1219
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: if do we still have Ben in Connecticut? If he's

1220
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: still on the line, Let's go to Ben.

1221
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 4: Ben.

1222
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: What's going on?

1223
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 4: Hey?

1224
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 3: How's you going? Guys? Great show? Thank you? What do

1225
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 3: you got?

1226
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 4: Uh?

1227
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 6: So, Reson, I want to talk about a couple of

1228
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 6: things here. First of all, I think even though obviously

1229
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 6: this is a tough Giants draw of the schedule, I

1230
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 6: think it's will have been a little bit overblown.

1231
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 4: Another couple of reasons.

1232
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,439
Speaker 6: Why here Uh, First of all, here are nine games

1233
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 6: on the schedule. We have the Cowboys twice, who are

1234
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 6: projected to, you know, and these are the betting odds

1235
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 6: to win nine games. You have the Commanders twice seven wins,

1236
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 6: Taints nine wins, Bear seven wins, Raiders seven wins, Patriots

1237
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 6: four wins, and even the Chargers.

1238
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 4: At home nine wins.

1239
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 6: That eight or nine games on the schedule of teams

1240
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 6: that are basically protected to be five hundred.

1241
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 3: Wait, man, Ben, I know what, Ben?

1242
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: In real place, the Commanders over under are seven and

1243
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: a half? Really seven and a half, right, Commanders? That

1244
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 1: can't be true.

1245
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 6: You're not true.

1246
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 4: That's what I just saw.

1247
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: Are you well? Con Or check that for me.

1248
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 2: I would be very surprised coming off an NFC title

1249
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 2: appearance that that they had a that they they seven

1250
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: win total.

1251
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: There.

1252
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 3: I don't know where that one's coming from. But hey, look, look, look,

1253
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 3: there's there's no doubt that anybody who strongly believes in

1254
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 3: the previous season's records and thinks that the same thing's

1255
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 3: going to happen year after year is making a mistake.

1256
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 3: So that's why we always preface. Every time we have

1257
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 3: this conversation, it is the strength of schedule based on

1258
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 3: last season's winning percentage. And you know what, it doesn't

1259
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 3: mean a whole lot. It's just a nice topic for conversation,

1260
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 3: but don't try to digest it like a piece of

1261
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 3: prime rate.

1262
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: And Connor, it's not gonna work.

1263
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 4: Connor checked that one more thing if you don't mind it,

1264
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 4: you know, listen, I just uh, I just checked the

1265
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 4: stat on that, and you're right. I was wrong. It's

1266
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 4: nine and a half. So that that's that's my fault

1267
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 4: through right, But you're right, you're right, that's wrong.

1268
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 6: But I but I wanted to say one more thing

1269
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 6: about that because I think, uh, there's been a lot.

1270
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 3: Of calls about how it's like we're.

1271
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 6: Almost assuming the Cowboys are gonna beat us twice, because

1272
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 6: I've beaten us twice for.

1273
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 4: A long time now, and I understand that.

1274
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 6: But we'll also you can't put that against us and

1275
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 6: then not give us any credit for the fact that

1276
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 6: we've owned the Commanders. No great point, Commanders is out

1277
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 6: better than Octor. We're not gonna give ourselves any credit

1278
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 6: for our history against the Commanders, but we're we'll be

1279
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 6: against ourselves with the Cowboys. We're not very good.

1280
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 4: But I don't know, I feel like it's kind of

1281
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 4: like a.

1282
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 6: Double edged stored being used against the Giants, especially in

1283
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 6: a lot of the national shows. You know, you watch

1284
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 6: the ESDL and they fill up to hammer the Giants

1285
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 6: about that.

1286
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: You know, No, Ben, look and I appreciate the call, man.

1287
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 2: I think you make some really good points. You're right,

1288
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: the Giants have played well against the Commanders.

1289
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: And Bob brought this up.

1290
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 2: If you know Graham Ganoa doesn't get hurt that game,

1291
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 2: who knows how that goes. The two point conversion fiasco.

1292
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 3: Is a mumble at the Washington thirty five, all.

1293
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: Of those things.

1294
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 2: So the Giants played the drop, The Giants played the

1295
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: Commander's tight last year, So there's no these are not

1296
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: impossible games. And I'll just say this too, if we

1297
00:58:54,480 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 2: were blessed enough to be doing this show on May fifteen, eighth,

1298
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, you know whatever, we'll be saying about

1299
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 2: what the Giants record was gonna be in the first

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00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 2: year of the Shane and davel Era not very good. No,

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Speaker 2: And I bet you if you gave those guys truth serum,

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Speaker 2: they were probably realistic about, you know what their first

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00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 2: year was gonna be too. They talked about being a

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Speaker 2: long term rebuilding process.

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Speaker 3: They were trying to puck the brakes right out of

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Speaker 3: the box.

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Speaker 2: So you never know how a season's going to go.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, that's why the NFL is the best.

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Speaker 2: That's why it's the best. The Pirates were never gonna

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Speaker 2: be good this year. They had no chance, zero chance.

1311
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: There were a half dozen teams in the NBA that

1312
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 2: were more worried about getting lottery positioned at the start

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Speaker 2: of the year than they were making the postseason.

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Speaker 1: I don't have to list them, look it up, you

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Speaker 1: know who they are. That's not the NFL. There are

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Speaker 1: worst to first teams in division regularly in this league.

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Speaker 1: Let's pull out that regularly.

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Speaker 4: Do you have it for me?

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Speaker 6: What do you?

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Speaker 1: I do?

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Speaker 3: I do have that number? Okay, let's see here.

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Speaker 4: Do do do do?

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Speaker 3: Do?

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Speaker 1: Do do do?

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Speaker 3: It's a very interesting number.

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Speaker 4: All right, here we go.

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Speaker 3: In terms of teams that have gone worse to first.

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Speaker 3: In fact, at least one club has gone from worst

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Speaker 3: or tied for worse in their division to first place.

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Speaker 1: The following year.

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Speaker 3: In twenty of the past twenty three NFL seasons three,

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Speaker 3: twenty of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: And again we're not saying that team is gonna be

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Speaker 2: the Giants this year. We sure hope they are. But

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Speaker 2: the problem is that you cannot predict what these teams

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Speaker 2: are gonna.

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Speaker 1: Do year to year.

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Speaker 2: It's very, very difficult. So just keep that in mind

1340
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Speaker 2: as you move forward here. Then you make really good points.

1341
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Speaker 2: You don't know what teams are gonna be good, what

1342
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: teams aren't, who's gonna be healthy when you play these teams?

1343
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Speaker 2: All those things put together, And again I go back

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Speaker 2: to twenty twenty two. I'm done making any definitive statements

1345
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Speaker 2: about how I think a season is going to go,

1346
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: because no one in there ryan mind. Heading into that

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two season, we're like.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what a playoff game? Absolutely think about it

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Speaker 1: this way. That year, Paul, you would back to back

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01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: games against the Ravens and the Packers or was that

1351
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Speaker 1: we four and five? That year it was five and six?

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Speaker 3: Was surely it was right around there.

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Speaker 1: I promise you that every Giant fan that may we're

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Speaker 1: saying those are two losses, not for those two teams.

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Speaker 3: Until Leonard Williams got that Lamar Jackson fumble at the

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Speaker 3: very end of the game.

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Speaker 1: It d On Thibodeau with the he had the strip.

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Speaker 1: He had to pick late in that game, right, wasn't

1359
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: it the deflection for the interception?

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Speaker 9: Know?

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Speaker 1: It was Julian Love with the pick. Keve On thibdo

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Speaker 1: had the strip and Leonard Williams.

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Speaker 3: Had recovery correct.

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Speaker 1: So no one felt the Giant's gonna win those two

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Speaker 1: games that year. No everyone assumed they were gonna be losses.

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Speaker 1: So you just don't know. You don't know. Things happen

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Speaker 1: in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Maybe a couple Giants take huge steps, they turn into

1369
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Speaker 2: Pro Bowlers that you're not expecting.

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Speaker 1: Who knows. There's just no way to know. And that's

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Speaker 1: why again the NFL is the best. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: take a quick break.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back with more on the Giants Schedule

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Speaker 2: release presented by the United Official Airline of the New

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01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 2: York Giants Gun Online. Folks will take more of your

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Speaker 2: calls at eight eight oh eight one zero one nine

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Speaker 2: as you continue talking Giants football.

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Speaker 1: And NFL with you right here on the FED. Well

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Speaker 1: back here on the Giants Schedule release special presented by

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Speaker 1: the United Official Airline of the New York Giants, John

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Speaker 1: Schmunk Paul Deatino talking Giants Football with you. Rookie Mini

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Speaker 1: camp as well. That was last weekend, and now the

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Speaker 1: rookies are in the building and they are in uniform,

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Speaker 1: meeting with the vets. They're integrating into the rooms with

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Speaker 1: the rest of the offseason roster, which is a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys as the rookies try to figure out what

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Speaker 1: it's like to work and live and NFL life. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's take a look.

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Speaker 2: Listen rather to another one of our mini camp press conferences,

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Speaker 2: brought to you by Ford Official Truck and be of

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Speaker 2: the New York Giants. Here is Giants first round pick

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Speaker 2: and rookie quarterback Jackson Dart addressing the media last Friday.

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Speaker 10: I just think I'm really confident my preparation every day

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Speaker 10: and I feel like anytime I step on the field,

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Speaker 10: like I don't have doubts on my play. And I

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Speaker 10: think that that comes from taking the time to really

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Speaker 10: understand the scheme and what I'm doing and what's why

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Speaker 10: is a play called to execute a certain way? And

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Speaker 10: now that's something that I take pride on. And then

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Speaker 10: you know, as a quarterback, you know you're only as

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01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 10: good as the guys around you, So you know, you

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Speaker 10: want to make sure that everybody's on the same page

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Speaker 10: and everybody has that same preparation aspect of making sure

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Speaker 10: that everything's down to a t and has done the

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Speaker 10: right way. And you know, our coaches did a great

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Speaker 10: job praying for us, and I kind of wanted to

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Speaker 10: continue that because you know, at times you're kind of

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Speaker 10: limited with time, and you know, everybody kind of has

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01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 10: a little questions, so just wanted to answer that and

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Speaker 10: get everybody on the same page.

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Speaker 3: What kind of feedback were you getting from coach table

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Speaker 3: on the field today?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, he coaches me up like every second I'm around him.

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Speaker 10: He's the guy that will walk in a room say,

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Speaker 10: you know, go bye and whatnot, and thentle come back

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Speaker 10: thirty seconds later because he has an idea. So he's constantly,

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Speaker 10: you know, coaching me, and I think that that's just

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Speaker 10: that's what I want to be around.

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Speaker 4: You know, I want to be the coach.

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Speaker 10: I want to be coached the hardest, and you know,

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Speaker 10: I feel like that's going to help me excel the

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Speaker 10: highest level and help me reach my potential. So there's

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Speaker 10: not another coach I'd rather be playing for. It seems

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01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 10: like you're allowed to say your last brow that's unspecific

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Speaker 10: about that read that play or is it just more

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Speaker 10: just the entire theory right after you through that last

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Speaker 10: bat like writ in your ear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: No, he was just kind of you know, asking what

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Speaker 10: I was seeing, kind of explained it to him and

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Speaker 10: making sure that we're just on the same page.

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Speaker 11: It became very clear some of the clips that have

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Speaker 11: come out during the draft process that he wanted you

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Speaker 11: that you were Daples guy. What does that mean to

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Speaker 11: you to have a coach that that really really wants

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Speaker 11: to work with you and sees the potential in you

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Speaker 11: and and is better as invested as you as you

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Speaker 11: can get. Yeah, I'm blessed to be here. I'm blessed

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Speaker 11: to be able to, you know, be coached by him.

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Speaker 10: And I think that we just kind of collect, you know,

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01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 10: personality wise of how we handle things and kind of

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Speaker 10: just like our competitive nature, our toughness, and our great

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Speaker 10: about how we go about things.

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Speaker 4: I think that that just helped us connect.

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Speaker 10: And you know, he sees football the same way that

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Speaker 10: I see it, and you know, we see it as

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01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 10: a physical and tough sport, and you know, I think

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Speaker 10: that a lot of times you don't really see that

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Speaker 10: a time with quarterbacks. And you know, for me, you know,

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Speaker 10: I I kind of play like a defensive player a

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01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 10: little bit, just you know, the way that attack each

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Speaker 10: and every.

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Speaker 2: Everything I do that Jackson Dart he did his dad

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Speaker 2: was a defensive players. That's where he gets that mentality from.

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Speaker 2: And Paul with Jackson Dart, I think it's important that

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Speaker 2: a few things. One, I think watching him address the

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Speaker 2: media and I interacted with him a little bit in

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Speaker 2: the facility afterwards. He is like Captain Charisma man like,

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Speaker 2: you know, he just has a manner and way about

1460
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Speaker 2: him that brings energy and positivity to whatever situation he's in.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we talked about how his defensive teammates

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Speaker 2: at ole Miss considered him the leader and he interacted

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Speaker 2: with them. He interacted with both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 2: And again, none of this I shouldn't say none of

1465
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Speaker 2: it matters, but it doesn't matter nearly as much unless

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Speaker 2: he plays extremely well too. But again, you don't want

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Speaker 2: to take too much out of what happens on the

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Speaker 2: field of rookie mini camp. But the personality you can understand.

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Speaker 2: And you know Dan Brugler, who's been on you know,

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Speaker 2: a lot of our programming here, he said this, when

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Speaker 2: this guy got into NFL buildings around the league, it

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Speaker 2: was gonna be tough for head coaches and offensive coordinators

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01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 2: to not want this guy in their building because of

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Speaker 2: his intelligence, his personality, his charisma. And you certainly saw

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Speaker 2: all of that on display when he addressed the media

1476
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 2: locally here for the first time face to face at

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Speaker 2: rookie minicamp.

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Speaker 3: A lot of maturity, to be honest, another magical word

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Speaker 3: that you love to see from one of your rookies.

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Speaker 1: But also just charisma, gravitas, like he just has something

1481
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Speaker 1: about him where it's like, all right, eh, I think

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Speaker 1: this guy can do it.

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Speaker 3: He's a very positive and assertive kind of guy. And

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Speaker 3: I thought one of the examples that we heard was

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Speaker 3: that you know, Dable was very impressed with the fact

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Speaker 3: that he prepared extremely hard for this rookie mini camp.

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Speaker 3: I mean a lot of these guys understand like, all right, well,

1488
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 3: we're here to try out. Who knows it's a one

1489
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 3: in a million shot or whatever. This kid was drafted

1490
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Speaker 3: in the first round. They traded to get him. He

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Speaker 3: understands that responsibility and he accepts it and is willing

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Speaker 3: to run with it and prepared like a first round

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Speaker 3: pick needs to prepare. And then you know, we were

1494
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 3: told that he was given some some plays that they

1495
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 3: were going to run the seven on sevens and the

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Speaker 3: next day when they went on the bus to get

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Speaker 3: to the facility a hotel.

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Speaker 2: It was actually going back to the hotel from the

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Speaker 2: facility on Friday night, I think, right, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then but then back the next morning, he went

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Speaker 3: over some of those plays with the offensive players to

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Speaker 3: make sure that they'd be on the same page during

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01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 3: a seven on seven who, by the way, are get

1504
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 3: a tryout?

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Speaker 2: Guys that he's probably never gonna say. Well, a lot

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01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 2: of the guys were actually udfa's that he were throwing

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01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 2: the ball. They were the three wide receivers at a

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01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 2: tight end. Yeah, there were all the skill position guys

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Speaker 2: that were udfa's.

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Speaker 3: Total of thirteen udfas and undrafted.

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Speaker 2: Rookie free And for the folks that don't know, those

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Speaker 2: are signed undrafted rookie free agents, guys that are under

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01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 2: contract and will be with the team. They'll a couple

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01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 2: of them to get let go after rookie Baue Camp

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01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 2: on the both on the defensive side of the bar room.

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Speaker 1: Yes, correct y. So anyway, tilling to make sure fans

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Speaker 1: do it, no, no question.

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01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 3: And so you know, for Dart to take on that responsibility,

1519
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 3: that role, that leadership kind of quality, uh, you know again,

1520
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 3: he's not gonna see most of those guys who he

1521
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 3: was probably talking to much at all, if if at all,

1522
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 3: once the season starts. And here he is doing what

1523
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 3: he can. He's a number one draft pick. These kids

1524
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 3: are just crossing their fingers that they may get a shot,

1525
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 3: and he's doing everything he can to try to help

1526
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 3: them out.

1527
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 2: So I've done I've tried really hard to get some

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01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 2: good guests on our Giants Little podcast, which you could

1529
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 2: find on the Giants app, giants dot com, slash podcast

1530
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 2: to search for Giants Podcast, Network of Giants, Uttle on

1531
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,600
Speaker 2: your favorite podcast platform. To get some former NFL quarterbacks

1532
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 2: to talk about Jackson Dart and what he brings to

1533
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 2: the Dani Rolotski went up this week, guys, and go

1534
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 2: check that out. But I'm gonna play a couple of

1535
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 2: snippets from two other ones I did. Kurt Warner from

1536
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 2: NFL Network Form for Giant and Chase Daniel, longtime NFL

1537
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 2: backup quarterback. When I start Chase Daniel, he was a

1538
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 2: huge fan of Jackson Dart watching him in college. Thought

1539
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 2: he was one of the steals of the draft. Here's

1540
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 2: what Chase had to say about Jackson darn and what

1541
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 2: he saw from him at Ole Miss.

1542
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 12: Toward the end of the season, Lane I wouldn't say

1543
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 12: runs in NFL offense, but I started seeing some NFL

1544
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,839
Speaker 12: concepts where I'm like, okay, and I sort of rewatched

1545
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 12: some of the early stuff. I'm like, Okay, I can

1546
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 12: see how this is working.

1547
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 4: I can.

1548
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 12: I thought Lane did a hell of a job last year,

1549
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 12: and and and you know, Jackson is a really competitive guy.

1550
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 12: But he put up a lot of stats and people

1551
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,560
Speaker 12: are like, well, stats don't tell well, this is the

1552
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 12: best conference in the world right now in college in

1553
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 12: the SEC, so you definitely want to see production.

1554
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 3: And when you're watching it, you're like, Okay, I can.

1555
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 4: See what he's seeing.

1556
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 1: I would say.

1557
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 12: The one thing, I'm sure we'll get into it. But

1558
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 12: the one thing about the offense is it's a a

1559
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 12: lot of single like one one reads, meaning like hey,

1560
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 12: you're just working the left side of the field.

1561
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 3: You have option one, you have option two.

1562
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 12: Let's take off and run. And he is a hell

1563
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 12: of a runner, like I would say, one of the

1564
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 12: best runners in this class at quarterback. I mean, he

1565
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 12: averaged almost five hundred yards rushing as he's in the

1566
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 12: three seasons it'll miss and over double digit touchdowns he averaged.

1567
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 4: I did this the other night.

1568
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 12: He averaged like one hundred and twenty one carries a year.

1569
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 4: That's a lot.

1570
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 12: So you have to go back, how much is that

1571
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 12: called runs verus how much is that scrambling versus how

1572
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 12: much is that is the offense And it's a little

1573
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 12: bit of everything. But for me, I would have loved

1574
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 12: to see through the duration of his career, and he

1575
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 12: got a lot better from year to year. Like these

1576
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 12: full field reads in the NFL, they're so vitally important. Yeah,

1577
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 12: you know, you can't have half field reads on under

1578
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 12: center play action stuff.

1579
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 3: You didn't see him do that a lot.

1580
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 12: But if he can get to that full field reads,

1581
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:56,719
Speaker 12: I liken it to what Jayden Daniels did two.

1582
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 3: Years ago at LSU.

1583
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 12: People are like, oh, he's an amazing right, dude was

1584
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 12: a pocket passer and he got through his progression so quickly.

1585
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:05,600
Speaker 12: I think Jackson can do that. I just think the

1586
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 12: offense didn't really allow for him to do that, if

1587
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 12: that makes sense.

1588
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 3: When you look at cam.

1589
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 12: Moore, because I'm I'm just trying to not compare the two,

1590
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 12: but when you look at cam Woard, cam Moored gets

1591
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 12: out of the pocket better than probably anyone in the class.

1592
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: But he doesn't run.

1593
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 12: He gets out of the pocket to throw, and so

1594
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 12: he's always got his eyes on the field. That's like,

1595
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 12: that's hard to teach. With Jackson. He just trust his

1596
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 12: athletic ability and his running ability so much that I

1597
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 12: don't fault him for that because he's a lot faster

1598
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 12: and he's a lot more athletic than you look.

1599
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 1: I like him to like he's a more athletic bow Knicks.

1600
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 12: But if you watch Bo Nicks in his last year

1601
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 12: in college two years ago, he was running a lot

1602
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 12: and he was running away from people, and it's like

1603
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 12: sneaky athletic like comes to mind.

1604
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 3: So I don't mind it.

1605
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 12: I do think the way the game's go and really

1606
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 12: the past three or four years, really five years.

1607
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 4: I would say half a decade.

1608
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 12: You gotta have someone to get out of trouble when

1609
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 12: the pocket collapses, Because nowadays you have maybe two seconds

1610
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 12: to make a decision. I would say, like a decade

1611
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 12: ago when I was playing, it was like two and

1612
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 12: a half. That extra half second gets on you quickly,

1613
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,600
Speaker 12: especially with how good defensive lines are getting. And I

1614
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 12: wouldn't say that the Giants offensive line was bad lest year,

1615
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 12: but you have to be able to have a guy.

1616
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 12: And I think that's sort of what sold Brian Dable

1617
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 12: on him is not only is he really good in

1618
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 12: the pocket, good mechanics when he's pressured, but also can

1619
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,919
Speaker 12: get out of trouble, which is so vitally important.

1620
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 2: All Right, now, let's go to Kurt Warner from NFL Network,

1621
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 2: former Giant quarterback, Super Bowl champion, Hall of Famer. I

1622
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 2: think those are all the Aquids I can listen to,

1623
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 2: really are not bad. Former worker at High Ve out

1624
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 2: in Iowa. That about that arena football superstar. I can

1625
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 2: go through any more of them. Here's Kurt Water talking

1626
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 2: about Jackson Dark.

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01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 13: I'm not a trades guy, you know, and maybe it's

1628
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 13: because I didn't have those trades and was able to

1629
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 13: be really successful. I mean, you guys know, Eli Manning

1630
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 13: didn't have those trades. Nope, was able to be really successful.

1631
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 13: There's Tom bra Like, there's a lot of guys, and

1632
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 13: I know the trend is moving towards athleticism. I get that,

1633
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:04,839
Speaker 13: but I still believe when you watch in critical moments

1634
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 13: of games, you have to be able to play from

1635
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 13: inside the pocket. And it's not about traits. It's about

1636
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 13: the mental ability to make decisions, get the ball to

1637
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 13: the right guy, and then having good enough traits to

1638
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:19,640
Speaker 13: make the throws that you're going to be asked to

1639
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 13: make or to make, you know, a five yard run

1640
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 13: when you have to make a five yard run like

1641
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 13: and Jackson Dart to me, has all of you know,

1642
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 13: the skills to be good enough. Like he's got good

1643
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 13: enough arm strength, he's got good enough mobility, he's got

1644
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 13: all of that stuff. To me, is good enough to

1645
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 13: be a really good quarterback in the National Football League.

1646
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 13: So it's not anything that I'm concerned about, you know,

1647
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 13: from a skill standpoint.

1648
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 1: You mentioned his mobility. The one thing I was kind

1649
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: of impressed by Curtent. We see some college quarterbacks and

1650
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,759
Speaker 1: they get pressure, they'll roll out, they'll run backwards. Jackson

1651
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: Dart tends to step up and through the pressure, which

1652
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 1: I really like.

1653
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 2: Now a lot of times he just runs off of

1654
01:13:57,920 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 2: that which, by the way, if you can get ten

1655
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 2: twelve yards on the right, that's great. But I thought

1656
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 2: his pocket presence in that way was actually pretty good

1657
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 2: for a young player.

1658
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, I think he does a nice shot.

1659
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 13: You know, he's willing to run, and a lot of

1660
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,560
Speaker 13: people have made the comparison to a Jalen Herds and

1661
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 13: I should like that comparison. You know that Jalen isn't.

1662
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 3: Off the charts, you know, skill set wise, you know.

1663
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 13: Whether that's athletically or speed or arm strength, but you know,

1664
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 13: but he's good in all of those areas. He's got

1665
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 13: enough in all of those areas. And you know when

1666
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 13: he runs, you know, very seldom is it going to

1667
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 13: be a forty yard run. But he does a great

1668
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 13: job at picking up eight to ten yards. He's got

1669
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 13: a nice feel when the pocket opens up, and a

1670
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 13: big body to be able to run through somebody if

1671
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 13: he needs to score down in the red zone and

1672
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 13: do those things. And I think Jackson Dard is very

1673
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 13: similar to that. Maybe not quite as good an athlete

1674
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 13: as as Jalen, but I think in the same vein,

1675
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 13: you know, of what he brings to the table. And

1676
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 13: so I think when you watch Jalen play, I look

1677
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 13: this and say, I think Jackson Dart could be a

1678
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 13: very similar type player within that offense to what Jalen does.

1679
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 13: You know, Jalen's a big time thrower and big time

1680
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 13: moments and those things, and I want to see that

1681
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 13: from Jackson.

1682
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 3: But just skill set wise, those.

1683
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 13: That I think that's a pretty accurate comparison when we're

1684
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 13: just talking about the physical skills of Jackson to somebody

1685
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 13: that's playing in the NFL. Yeah, you know, I actually

1686
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 13: know Russell, you know, quite a bit. And actually I'm

1687
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 13: really close with Janis as well. And I think both

1688
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 13: those guys will be great for Jackson, you know, in

1689
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 13: terms of of their willingness to help him however they

1690
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 13: can help him. Now, those two guys are two different

1691
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:48,440
Speaker 13: kinds of quarterbacks. Again, Russell less of the more traditional

1692
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 13: drop back, you know, read play on time type quarterback,

1693
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 13: you know, But there's things that he's really good at

1694
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 13: seeing and throwing and the way he throws things that

1695
01:15:58,520 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 13: I think he can really help Jackson.

1696
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 4: That stuff.

1697
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:04,719
Speaker 13: I think Jamis is really good mentally at processing information

1698
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 13: and reading coverages and getting to the right guy. And

1699
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 13: so I think combination wise, they could be, you know,

1700
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 13: a great combination for Jackson to help him with the

1701
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 13: two facets of his game.

1702
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,719
Speaker 2: Those interviews are brought to you by Bob's discun Furniture

1703
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 2: official furniture store and Mattress, partner of the New York Giants. So, Paul,

1704
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 2: they talked a lot about the physical traits of Jackson

1705
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 2: Dart there and look what and Kurt mentioned this at

1706
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 2: the beginning of his first answer and that clip and again, guys,

1707
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 2: both those full interviews, they're almost a half an hour

1708
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 2: each and it's all Jackson Dart from both guys and

1709
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 2: the one from Rolosity that's up there too on the

1710
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 2: Johns Totle podcast. If you're a Giants fan, I really

1711
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 2: really suggest that you go check him out. It's definitely

1712
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 2: worth your time. But how is he going to mentally

1713
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 2: process the game right? How quickly can he get used

1714
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,600
Speaker 2: to the NFL all the different things the defense shows you,

1715
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 2: all the things that the quarterback is responsible for. You know,

1716
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 2: there's no looking for the guy to pull up the

1717
01:16:58,200 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: card with the big pancake on. It's to tell you

1718
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 2: what no adjustment is nope. You know you gotta do protections.

1719
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 2: You gotta be able to read changing defenses. Defenses switch

1720
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 2: completely post snap versus pre snap. They're a lot more complicated.

1721
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 4: You know.

1722
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 2: Chase Daniel talked about how the reads you're reading off

1723
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 2: one guy, well, you get to do more than that

1724
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 2: in the NFL. You gotta get to one to two,

1725
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 2: to three and things of that nature. So those are

1726
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 2: things that are gonna take some time from to figure out.

1727
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 2: Who knows, We don't know how quickly he's gonna figure

1728
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 2: this out. Maybe it's gonna be really fast, maybe it's

1729
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 2: gonna be slower. Only Ryan Dable's gonna know. Only Mike

1730
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 2: Kafick is gonna know. Shay Tierney, the Giants quarterbacks coach,

1731
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 2: is gonna know, and they'll determine when he is in

1732
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 2: fact ready to go. But I think I warned fans

1733
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 2: about this when we did our post draft show. Don't

1734
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 2: lose your mind about what he does and.

1735
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 1: Can't practice is or preseason games.

1736
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 2: Guys, the coaches are gonna know when he's ready, and

1737
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 2: they'll put him out there when he's ready and.

1738
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 1: If they feel like they need to. Russell Wilson could

1739
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: be playing great, and he could be playing seventeen games.

1740
01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 3: Is year fall.

1741
01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: We know so well the way and see how the

1742
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 1: season goes. No way to predict when that's going to

1743
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 1: happen today.

1744
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 3: John, you know I can't go through this show without

1745
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 3: making a food analogy true. And the bottom line is

1746
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 3: think of Jackson Dart as the Sunday sauce. It's going

1747
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 3: to be on the stove and you're gonna throw the

1748
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 3: ingredients in there and then it's gonna start the simmer.

1749
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 3: And you don't serve it with the pasta until it's time.

1750
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 3: You don't do it before, you don't do it after.

1751
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 3: Just like when you boil the pasta in the water,

1752
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 3: you don't let it boil too long or it becomes soggy.

1753
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 3: You still have to have some firmness and texture and consistency.

1754
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 3: You don't want to serve it too early because now

1755
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 3: it's too hard and it's clumpy, and you don't want

1756
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 3: to serve it too late. You want to serve it

1757
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 3: just right. This coaching staff, whether it's your Turney, Mike

1758
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 3: Kafka or Brian Dabele, all three of these guys together

1759
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 3: have to determine what is the right time clock to

1760
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,560
Speaker 3: serve that Jackson dart Meal, and they're not gonna do

1761
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 3: it before it's time.

1762
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: And we're not gonna know when it's time. Only they

1763
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 1: are gonna know when it's time. And again, the circumstances

1764
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 1: the season are gonna help determine that as well. So

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01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 1: I wollop to wait and see what goes on with that.

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01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: All right, folks, we got one more segment coming your way.

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01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna try to dual calls.

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01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 2: If you want to get on the line, feel free

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01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 2: eight eight eight eight eight one zero one nine eighty

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01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 2: eight eight eight one zero one nine. We also have

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01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,560
Speaker 2: some sound from the Giants third round pick Darius Alexander

1772
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 2: and their fourth round pick.

1773
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 1: Camp Scatabuy. So stay tuned. We'll take a quick break.

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01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,799
Speaker 1: We'll come back with more of the Giants Schedule Release

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01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 1: Special presented by the United Official Airline of the New

1776
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 1: York Giants. We're back on the Giants Schedule Release Special

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01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 1: presented by the United Official Airline of the New York

1778
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:51,679
Speaker 1: Football Giants.

1779
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 2: John Schmelt, Paul Theatino. Your calls eight at eight eight

1780
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 2: oh eight one zero one to nine. You're from Abdul

1781
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 2: Carter and Jackson Dart. Let's pull up the giants third round, Connor,

1782
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 2: let's go to dari X Alexander all calling audible on here,

1783
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 2: Sorry about that. He also spoke to the media at

1784
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 2: Midiicamp last week for the rookies.

1785
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 1: Here's Darius Alexander.

1786
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 14: Just trusting my coaches and the veteran guys out there,

1787
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 14: believing in them, taking coaches from them while they're helping me.

1788
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 14: So next day after that, it'd be just efforts going

1789
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 14: out there, running fast to the bar, everywhere to go.

1790
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 14: So I'll say that's a cute success right there. Going

1791
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 14: to the coaching play. What are your first impressions of

1792
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 14: Andre Patterson's fresh and Presents is wonderful, cool, laid back

1793
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 14: to coach, but uh, once you get fired up, he

1794
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 14: there and he all the way there. But it's good

1795
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 14: to have him around. Great communicative coach, gas about anything

1796
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 14: that you need help with on the f off the field.

1797
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 4: So it's great. You had a long tenure in college,

1798
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 4: right and you improved every single year.

1799
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 3: What do you attribute that improvement.

1800
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 4: To and how do you think that's going to transition

1801
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:48,560
Speaker 4: as you go to the next album For me?

1802
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 14: So, I had four different D line coaches back in college.

1803
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 14: So for me, it was just been able to buy

1804
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 14: into what my coaches is teaching me. Whatever I did

1805
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 14: learn before, don't bring.

1806
01:20:58,760 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 8: That to the table with them.

1807
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 14: Learn their learn their learn their work at how they

1808
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 14: want me to work, pursue my things out there, and

1809
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 14: then maybe I could go back and add those little

1810
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 14: things that ahead of my game before. Adamants of my game.

1811
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 14: But more than anything, just believe in your coach and

1812
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 14: trust him to playing a big ot for you.

1813
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: He's going to be twenty five this summer.

1814
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 2: You can tell by listening to a mature guy, Cam

1815
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 2: Scatabu the Giants fourth round pack.

1816
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 1: Let's see what he had to say.

1817
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 9: Getting the end zone. I mean, you know, it feels

1818
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 9: good when you run somebody over and then get in

1819
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 9: the end zone. I mean, it feels good when you

1820
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 9: get in the en zone. But imagine running someone over

1821
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 9: and then running another person over and then getting in

1822
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 9: the end zone.

1823
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 4: It's not much better, you know.

1824
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 9: So it just shows that, you know, when when you're physical,

1825
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 9: it shows the work you put in, you know, the

1826
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 9: weight room, and how much you do to make your

1827
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 9: game better.

1828
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 15: So I feel like people sleep on your ability to

1829
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 15: make guys miss in the open field.

1830
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 9: Maybe a little bit this past year. I didn't do

1831
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 9: it a ton, you know, I more so hit people

1832
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 9: or attack their one shoulder. But I mean people want

1833
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 9: to sleep, they can sleep, you know.

1834
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 4: I have no issue with that.

1835
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 9: It's been something I've had to deal with my whole life.

1836
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 9: So I'm going to continue to do what I need

1837
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 9: to do to be successful and play as long as

1838
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 9: I can.

1839
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 15: In this league, we talk about being physical and attacking

1840
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 15: at one shoulder. It's about angles. How often does that

1841
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 15: get lost in terms of how folks view the running

1842
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 15: back position, like you alwa's taking on too much contact,

1843
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,759
Speaker 15: but not that every contact contact is the same content.

1844
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And that's right.

1845
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 9: I mean head up contact is that's that's real contact,

1846
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 9: you know, and shoulder to shoulder isn't as much contacts

1847
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 9: people think, you know. And uh, I have a good

1848
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 9: balance underneath my feet. So if I can get half

1849
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 9: a body, you know, I feel like I'm in a

1850
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 9: good shape to go past them.

1851
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 14: So with all you accomplished, how do you keep finding

1852
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 14: the chip on your shoulder to prove people that you

1853
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 14: could still do more?

1854
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1855
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 9: How many snaps of the NFL. Have you seen me

1856
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 9: play zero? Right, I've proved nothing. I've you know, I've

1857
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 9: proved what I am in college, but I've proved nothing

1858
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 9: at this level. So what now Where I'm at, I

1859
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 9: have to prove myself. And if that's for five years

1860
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 9: or if that's for ten years, I'm gonna continue to

1861
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 9: prove myself. I'm the best do it for the longest.

1862
01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 9: So continue to do that and just work my butt

1863
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:02,759
Speaker 9: off until you know, till time comes.

1864
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 1: Paul Fan's gonna love Campskataboo. He is a blue collar kid.

1865
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 2: He has the right approach, right personality, right thought process

1866
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 2: of succeeding in the NFL. It's gonna be fun watching

1867
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 2: him in Tyrone Tracy Split those backfield terras.

1868
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 3: He's the kind of guy who will not only energize

1869
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 3: the crowd, but he will energize the guys in the huddle. Yeah,

1870
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 3: I've likened him to Brandon Jacobs when he.

1871
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: Plows somebody over about half the size. But yeah, I'm

1872
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: talking about yes play style absolutely, with the pact he.

1873
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 3: Can have on his teammates, this is a guy who

1874
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 3: is just gonna light a real fire under folks every

1875
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 3: time he barrels somebody.

1876
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 2: Over, kind of like how Marshaun Lynch used to run

1877
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 2: right that that that that type of thing. Again, I

1878
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 2: don't think he quite has that type of punch that

1879
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 2: that Lynch ad. I think Lynch is probably heavier than

1880
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 2: he was that to look at him not might have

1881
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:51,759
Speaker 2: been a little bit heavier.

1882
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 3: But let's see, don't put anything by like that.

1883
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 2: That type of way to energize and just bring a

1884
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 2: physicality to the game that I think will energize everyone else.

1885
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 2: All right, we gotta come minutes here, Paul. So we

1886
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 2: mentioned it before Nick's playing the Celtics tomorrow in game

1887
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 2: six up three games to two. I had a rough

1888
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 2: time heading into game three. I could have went to

1889
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 2: that game, but I had to coach my seven second

1890
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 2: grade daughters flag football game. Look, I had to do

1891
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:18,640
Speaker 2: I was the other coach wasn't there.

1892
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 1: I had to do it. It was a good left

1893
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 1: lesson for her. Your team comes first. We knocked that

1894
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: out on Saturday. Nix ended up losing. Worked out, okay.

1895
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 1: I went on Monday night. It was fine. So I'll

1896
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 1: be there tomorrow night.

1897
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 4: Paul.

1898
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: You apparently, though, are not going to be in front

1899
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:34,600
Speaker 1: of your TV what are you going on?

1900
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 3: There is a a Chicago tribute band, Leonid and Friends.

1901
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 3: They are a Russian rock and roll band that does

1902
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 3: this absolutely incredible, incredible mimicry of Chicago, which is a

1903
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,719
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame rock and roll band from the seventies

1904
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 3: in the eighties. My wife got some tickets for their

1905
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 3: show tomorrow.

1906
01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 1: And that was a while ago before you knew what

1907
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 1: was going on. Yeah, and the show is at eight

1908
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 1: o'clock and you have not been able to exit stage left. No,

1909
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 1: I'll be at center stage, and so I will be

1910
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 1: keeping track of the game as best as I can.

1911
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 1: I'll have to dim the brightness on the screen of

1912
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 1: my cell phone as I hold it down between my knees.

1913
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 3: Do you know how to do that?

1914
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 4: Oh?

1915
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, And I will make sure that I am

1916
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 3: hooked up to the game properly, and with any luck,

1917
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 3: the show will let out with some time left in

1918
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 3: the game.

1919
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 2: As long as the show suposed to be, I don't know,

1920
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 2: but it starts at eight, and so is the tip

1921
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 2: off right? That's I mean, bet not be much more

1922
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 2: than two and a half.

1923
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 3: I would think they'll be done by two hours, So

1924
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 3: I think I've got a chance to see the last

1925
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 3: five minutes of the fourth quarter. Maybe now, of course,

1926
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 3: if the Knicks are not doing well.

1927
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 1: Let's not talk about that.

1928
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 3: Well, I would say, I'm probably gonna throw the phone

1929
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 3: halfway across the theater into a wall. If the Knicks

1930
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:54,679
Speaker 3: are losing it back.

1931
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,600
Speaker 2: They'll be the middle of some like quiet refrain and

1932
01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 2: some song and like the women in the crowd are

1933
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 2: like a love song that all of a sudden you

1934
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:06,879
Speaker 2: just sear a he pulled the t andos passionate scream

1935
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,640
Speaker 2: of dismay echo in the middle of the What is

1936
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 2: the auditorium, concert.

1937
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 3: Halls the theater. Yeah, it's a It's a very nice theater.

1938
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 3: So uh look, look, it is what it is.

1939
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 1: What it is.

1940
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 3: I'm sure every single guy out get caught by one

1941
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 3: of these instances where they got committed to going to

1942
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 3: something and then all of a sudden they found out

1943
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 3: that it was going to be a conflict. It is

1944
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 3: what it is, folks, But I'm still there in spirit.

1945
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 1: Go next.

1946
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, we hope they do a nice job.

1947
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Speaker 2: And by the way, folks, thanks for joining us on

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Speaker 2: the Giants Scheduling special presented by United Official Airline of

1949
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Speaker 2: the New York Giants real quick. If you haven't seen it,

1950
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Speaker 2: go to Giants dot com, Giants App, Giants social media platforms.

1951
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Speaker 2: The Giants schedule these video is out if you're if

1952
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Speaker 2: you're a Love Island fan, it's right up your alley.

1953
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Speaker 1: You'll love it. Really good job by our folks here

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Speaker 1: putting it together. Excellent work.

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Speaker 2: Check that out and of course on a lot of

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Speaker 2: content on the site in the app as well breaking

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Speaker 2: out everything with the schedule lease to make sure you

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Speaker 2: go check that out on the Johnsontle podcast I mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 2: sat Sitetack and I have a reaction. All on this

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Speaker 2: show will pop up on the Giants Liddle podcast feed

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Speaker 2: tomorrow as well, so make sure you go check that

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Speaker 2: out on the Giants App, Giants dot com, slash podcast

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Speaker 2: or your favorite podcast platform, and again the schedules app. Folks,

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Speaker 2: if you want to take us, go to Giants dot Com.

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Speaker 2: Slash Tickets, season ticket membership, individual game tickets. Limited tickets

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Speaker 2: are available, but just go check that out if you

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Speaker 2: want them. Good feeling Nick win tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think they do too.

1969
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Speaker 1: Scares the hell out of it.

1970
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Speaker 3: They're the Knicks, They've got to do it the hard way.

1971
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Speaker 3: It may even go to overtime, but they will win.

1972
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Speaker 3: They will win.

1973
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Speaker 1: I can't handle it. For Paul Datino, I'm John Schmelk.

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Speaker 2: That's all we have for you tonight on the Giants schedule,

1975
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Speaker 2: elea special presented by the United Official Airline of the

1976
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Speaker 2: New York Giants, Fort Poldatino for my guy Conagreen back

1977
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Speaker 2: in the studio, Cemac Chris mcmodicle coming to your way

1978
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Speaker 2: next on the fan taking you on the overnight.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us, everybody, and stay tuned again.

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Speaker 1: The Giants dot Com, John and sab YouTube channel.

1981
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Speaker 2: All our social media platforms are continuing coverage of the

1982
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Speaker 2: Giants offseason program. Ota is getting kicked off, Mindatory, Mini Camp,

1983
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Speaker 2: et cetera. Will have all the coverage for you there.

1984
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Speaker 2: CIMAC coming your way next.

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Speaker 1: Until then, guys, have a great night.