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Speaker 1: This is the Meat Eater Podcast coming at you shirtless, severely,

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Speaker 1: bug bitten, and in my case, underwear listeningcast.

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Speaker 2: You can't predict anything.

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Speaker 1: E dot com. Uh, when I was is she not?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Phil? You can record this. You just started now and

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Speaker 1: you just started it, and I want to first I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say we're joined today by the host of Busting

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Speaker 1: with the Boys on the Barstool Podcast Network, Taylor Curtis Lewin.

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Speaker 4: How do you like to say, Taylor Lawan, But my

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Speaker 4: whole life it's all good.

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Speaker 3: New ground comeback. Yeah, just churching it up, dirt.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you only got a little something.

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Speaker 1: And uh will earl Oh my god, this makes you

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Speaker 1: sound pretentious.

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Speaker 3: William earle.

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Speaker 1: Yes was like, give me some of that money. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Oh what was? I had two things because just before

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Speaker 1: the show started we were talking about rock and roll,

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Speaker 1: and we're talking about when your song if you're a

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Speaker 1: rocker like you'r Nirvana or Pearl Jam or whatever, like

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Speaker 1: so you're cool like a long time ago, and then

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Speaker 1: one day you wake up in your classic rock and

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Speaker 1: and that being disconcerting. And I was going to point

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Speaker 1: out in talking about how adaptable classic rock is. The

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Speaker 1: that like thousand Greatest Rock Songs, which is you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like it's like a thing that brings the country together.

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Speaker 1: But kl Q would jump in and do an editorial insert,

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Speaker 1: so you know it's gonna end like for weeks, you're

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Speaker 1: driving down the road knowing this is gonna land at

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Speaker 1: Stairway to Heaven. But they would add number two, put

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Speaker 1: in Uncle Ted's Fred Bear Fred.

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Speaker 3: Is a Jam.

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Speaker 1: They would they would stick that in just to stick

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Speaker 1: it to the man and say it's no stairway to Heaven,

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Speaker 1: but it's definitely better than hate Jude.

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Speaker 3: Right, Hey, Fred Bears a Jam? Now, yeah, that's like

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Speaker 3: the first Hunting song I grew up listening to.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's funny when VHS right, You're like, oh

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Speaker 1: To learn more about this Fred Bear guy, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have we gotta hang tight a minute. What

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Speaker 1: did we gotta do? Right off the top of the

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Speaker 1: bat And you guys might like this we're doing this

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Speaker 1: year we let our We used to license music for

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Speaker 1: the end of the show. You guys do that with

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Speaker 3: I don't think so now do you just ended? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Got this little riff.

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Speaker 3: I think a guy named Drew Dixon did it for us.

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Speaker 3: One we use now is from Ernest. Yeah, Ernest.

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Speaker 4: Ernest came on the bus and he had did a

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Speaker 3: That's the beginning.

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Speaker 4: But that little guitar riff at the end, I'm pretty

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Speaker 4: sure it was like Drew Dixon, who was like, guys

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Speaker 1: You didn't have to license that every year, you just

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Speaker 3: We didn't know about it at first because Quicker City

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Speaker 3: Nighthawks was the very first one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then do you hear about all the copyright

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Speaker 1: Yeah, point being uh we are. We had licensed to

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Speaker 1: So this one I like so much that I don't

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Speaker 4: Both you do a quinin Tarantina situation.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, gotta pulled up.

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Speaker 1: Phil is gonna let's hear it, Philly. M guys sent this.

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Speaker 3: In, wrote it just for this.

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Speaker 5: That's like young guns.

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Speaker 6: That surprised me.

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Speaker 1: Wait for the elk bugle, though, you wait for the

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Speaker 1: elk bugle.

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Speaker 1: Guy, there it is, dude. I'm telling you what you

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Speaker 5: Now Phil, it's a lot going on.

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Speaker 1: Hot tip brandy musicians man throwing out bugle into your metal.

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Speaker 1: It's like with cooks, throw a little butter in her.

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Speaker 1: You throw some elk bugles into your music and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be kicking ass. Who's that?

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Speaker 7: This is by Jesse Collins, who's a local Boson, Montana resident.

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Speaker 7: He's from here. And in case you were not able

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Speaker 7: to decipher the lyrics, the lyrics are hunting, fishing, cooking, conserving,

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Speaker 7: and then the next one live to hunt to live,

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Speaker 7: and then the last line, which we something near and

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Speaker 1: We're going to open a Christmas present real quick.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it's behind you.

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Speaker 3: That's from It's not even.

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Speaker 5: For those of you who forgot to get on the

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Speaker 1: Here, this is a huge Can you open it? You

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Speaker 1: work opening? It's sure, we listen. Listeners of the show

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Speaker 5: Now this is great. I love it.

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Speaker 1: So listeners of the show will remember when we had

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Speaker 1: Cal was there? Who all was there? Cal Clay in

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Speaker 5: Grin was there?

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Speaker 1: Max Maximilman Krinn was there. Uh We we participated in

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Speaker 1: was it was Texas, Texas. Why why am I struggling

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Speaker 5: I thought the Ohio State Southern.

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Speaker 1: State University, Oregon State University, and we participated in a

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Speaker 1: project of we butchered. We were we were expert butchers

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Speaker 1: and butchered a buffalo with stone tools replicas of ice

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Speaker 7: It's very delicate.

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Speaker 4: Okay, do you have any idea what this is?

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Speaker 1: I really don't.

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Speaker 2: Really, it's gonna take time.

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Speaker 3: This end is brittle.

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Speaker 5: Taylor, you can't help. We've already been over this. Taylor.

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Speaker 5: Is the don't rip the wrapping paper person.

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Speaker 4: I like to save the anticipation.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, Steve, you want to grab the which.

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Speaker 5: Is a great way to think about that because I've

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Speaker 5: never thought about it that way. Like what you like

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Speaker 3: Christmas you get to.

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Speaker 4: Spend that extra Okay, this might be that thing I really.

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Speaker 1: Want So this is from the Kent State University Experimental

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Speaker 4: The Golden Flashes and many apologies to people who are

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta get on the YouTube train for those.

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Speaker 1: Well do you think it sounds good that this loud

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Speaker 1: paper noise to people at home?

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Speaker 5: I love it. I think it creates intrigue. People will

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Speaker 5: get online to see what's bubble wrap?

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Speaker 1: Come hang out with my kids. I'll put you in

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Speaker 1: a big room full bubble wrap, and you guys can

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Speaker 1: just have a home.

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Speaker 5: See you four hours later.

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Speaker 7: I don't think anything broke.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be a.

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Speaker 5: Spear, right, Well, we don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well, that says a happy news spear. And now I

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Speaker 1: remember saying I wanted some spears. Oh my goodness, there's

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Speaker 8: There there are maybe eight different layers of wrapping papers.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you did a good job. Well, I didn't realize

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Speaker 1: You got a free towel out of it.

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Speaker 5: A couple of free towels.

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Speaker 1: I don't go shower up.

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Speaker 7: All right, Steve, I think you should do the honors.

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Speaker 5: When we're no I'm watching, We're gonna get those towels

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Speaker 5: in the auction house oddities.

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Speaker 1: Oh, look at that.

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Speaker 2: You guys are doing great work.

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Speaker 4: Get a Christmas gift.

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Speaker 3: Noodles.

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Speaker 5: You guys got it.

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Speaker 4: I'm enjoying watching my present be open.

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Speaker 1: We got we got new towels, we got new pool noodles.

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Speaker 3: This is really ship I should have at least partially.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Krin does some good producing and some poor producing,

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Speaker 4: The explanation.

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Speaker 7: Can you're so close? Yeah, sorry audience for my terrible producing.

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Speaker 5: Maybe lay over that song again.

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Speaker 6: You can probably still play an end.

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Speaker 5: These pool noodles, for folks who don't haven't happened on

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Speaker 1: And just just to keep people entertaining while we open this.

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Speaker 1: If you're if you got pre rig mooching rigs, you

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Speaker 6: Self to talk about the pool noodles are also good

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Speaker 6: for floating too.

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Speaker 1: I see that, I can see that.

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Speaker 7: Some pools present is revealed a couple of good walking sticks.

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Speaker 1: This is you right here, package you.

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Speaker 5: And snoop, snort, stink, damn it. The whole role is.

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Speaker 2: Be careful now.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gonna be sharp.

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Speaker 5: I think for the amount of time it took to goodness.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that is badass, ladies, and John, that was worth

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Speaker 7: These are Clovis point tip hunting spears by Metton and

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Speaker 7: a former student. The points were hafted by a former

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Speaker 5: Wilson Holy Cats.

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Speaker 7: Two of them are English flint, procured by him from

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Speaker 7: And then the third one is Georgetown chirt from Texas.

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Speaker 7: It's the same kind of shirt we used in the experiment,

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Speaker 1: Is ribs man, Max.

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Speaker 5: Everybody ask you to move that spear that you leaned

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Speaker 1: Fellow, this is the part of this is part of

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Speaker 1: Fella wrote in says twenty twenty three, is this is

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Speaker 1: more bad producing? Good producer would have gone in there

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Speaker 1: and wrote was. But this was.

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Speaker 7: A quote from the guy. He wrote in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: You would a good producer would have wrote sick sick

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Speaker 3: Yes, as I say, it's got toppy with a writer.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three is considered this is a listener thing.

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Speaker 1: This is a good question. Twenty twenty three is considered

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Speaker 1: a masked year where acorn product acorn, where acorn production

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Speaker 1: I'm not seeing hardly any coming out to feed in

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Speaker 5: I think Pat Dirkin wrote it up. I think Michigan's

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Speaker 5: Hunter participation decline for this season. So that's a reason

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Speaker 1: There, huh, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: And then as we talked about, you want some real

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Speaker 5: Well, if it's a really significant number, if you go

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Speaker 1: Not the COVID pandemic, No.

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Speaker 5: Like a significant peak. You'll have to eat old Padnerkins article.

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Speaker 5: I think he wrote it up for the Meat Eater

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Speaker 1: One thing I could say about this what he's what

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's just why I'm go sit the edge of the

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Speaker 5: They don't have to expose themselves because there's plenty of

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Speaker 1: They don't need to take risk. Talk talk to Clay.

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Speaker 1: When I was when I was saying acorns and not acorns,

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Speaker 1: I was goofing on Clay. You talked to Clay about

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Speaker 8: This is a Clay conversation. Yeah, it really likes and

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Speaker 8: have a lot of fun with that.

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Speaker 1: He likes any conversation that involves acrons.

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Speaker 6: Clay successful on one of these years.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I know that he's always looking for

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Speaker 6: Yeah, is it?

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Speaker 1: Man, this is I don't I'm just reading.

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Speaker 3: This so I'm trying to keep up. So there's an

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Speaker 1: This is an actual thing here.

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Speaker 3: This is a real thing. No.

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Speaker 1: No, what I'm saying is bumper crops of acorns is

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Speaker 1: with you ever heard of the thing predator swamping? No,

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Speaker 1: We had a guy sitting in the seat you're sitting in,

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Speaker 1: just really good. They drop so many acorns, and then

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Speaker 3: Okay, you follow them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not something I've picked up through observation.

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Speaker 5: So out here. Elk or like the example that I

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Speaker 5: think makes the most sense to people. Elk calves first

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Speaker 5: forty eight hours on the ground most susceptible to predation.

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Speaker 5: Then basically every minute past that forty eight hour mark,

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Speaker 5: It all takes time. So all the predators are out

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Speaker 3: Got you changes.

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Speaker 5: A angles change, and there's more of them. There's balls

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Speaker 4: This viewer who wrote this, and he's talking.

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Speaker 1: About acorns, he used acorns.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, is this is it a big deal? Is this

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Speaker 1: Well, he like many, like many good outdoors me, he's

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Speaker 1: Or is it that something else changed? But worth worthy

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Speaker 1: I'd love to understand it.

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Speaker 5: On the successful hunter side of things, there are groups

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Speaker 5: that is more satisfying to them than changing their stand

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Speaker 3: That makes sense, right, I love to complain.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, it's probably the people that are complaining about this,

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Speaker 5: Normally I go out the first weekend and the first morning,

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Speaker 1: Guy wrote in this is a good one. You want

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Speaker 1: how you guys doing today, and then proceeded to just

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Speaker 5: I keep seeing the word pop up. I don't know

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Speaker 1: So they the this, this this posse of anti hunters

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Speaker 1: there are images that they can put on social media.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: They reached out to a game warden who said that

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Speaker 1: it's illegal to come up and annoy them or harass

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Speaker 1: into it, it's just it's just it's not it's if

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Speaker 1: it's as presented, it's just a it's just a thing

449
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Speaker 1: where that you can't do that that's illegal, that should

450
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Speaker 1: not happen to you.

451
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Speaker 7: Maybe hunters in each state should get to know and

452
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Speaker 7: read the codified anti hunter laws in their respective states.

453
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Speaker 1: Antment harassment laws, yes.

454
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Speaker 5: Because it is like a stupid wording thing, right, like

455
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Speaker 5: these people didn't interfere with the hunt. They just harassed

456
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Speaker 5: them when they came out of the woods with the bear,

457
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Speaker 5: which you know may not make it by the eyes

458
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Speaker 5: of the law of people the way it's written.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would continually be posting pictures of bear ham

461
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Speaker 5: smoking and bear chili and talking about the amount of

462
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Speaker 5: people you fed with that bear.

463
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Speaker 1: I like that cal Yeah, doctor Randall, what did you

464
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Speaker 1: determine about the quail article?

465
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Speaker 8: I was waiting for the uh the payoff?

466
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Speaker 1: There? Did you who scratched it out?

467
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Speaker 3: Oh?

468
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Speaker 7: I just removed it because we seem to have skipped it.

469
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Speaker 1: But I want to say a thing of interest from

470
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Speaker 1: the Yeah, there's this article we're taking a look at.

471
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Speaker 1: It's about Tennessee's quail comeback and AI, and the article tries,

472
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Speaker 1: in very tenuous fashion, in my view, to link the

473
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Speaker 1: use of AI with a quail comeback and I, and

474
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Speaker 1: the relationship is not how would you put it, there's

475
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Speaker 1: no correlation.

476
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

477
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Speaker 1: However, it's an interesting thing to do surveys to try

478
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Speaker 1: to locate quail which have been which are their numbers

479
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Speaker 1: are doing a little bit better in Tennessee. In certain

480
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Speaker 1: places in Tennessee, as some people know, and many people

481
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Speaker 1: in the South, have experienced Bob White quail numbers or

482
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Speaker 1: have been at just depressingly low levels across a lot

483
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Speaker 1: of the traditional range. Too many, too many reasons why

484
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Speaker 1: to name them all? Some people point to fire ants,

485
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Speaker 1: some people point to fire suppression. What am I missing?

486
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Speaker 5: Changes in trapping oh, too.

487
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Speaker 1: Many mid size Yeah, a lot of mid sized predators

488
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Speaker 1: because fur prices have been so low.

489
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Speaker 3: And on and on.

490
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Speaker 1: They just talking about guys. Research is being to put

491
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Speaker 1: AI to use. Every time you read about AI, you

492
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Speaker 1: feel like, oh my god, it's so scary. They're coming

493
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Speaker 1: from my job. But here they're using AI to go

494
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Speaker 1: out and take recordings, just recording ambient sound. Right, So

495
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Speaker 1: you can place a recording device out in some habitat

496
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Speaker 1: and it records all the ambient sound. You imagine, well,

497
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Speaker 1: what are you going to do now? You hire some

498
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Speaker 1: grad student to listen to tens of thousands of hours

499
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Speaker 1: of ambient sound recordings to be like, oh, there's one

500
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Speaker 1: I heard a quail, right, and then log where it

501
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: was and when it was. And these researchers are able

502
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Speaker 1: to take all of this. They got forty some listening devices.

503
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Speaker 1: They're able to take all of that and use AI

504
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Speaker 1: to scrub out and identify the sounds of quail.

505
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

506
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Speaker 8: And so it makes a case that this gives them

507
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Speaker 8: a better understanding of or it's a more useful way.

508
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Speaker 5: To closer to actual population.

509
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Speaker 8: Yeah, but it doesn't actually explain how it causally impacts it.

510
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Speaker 5: Doesn't say how quail or recovering?

511
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Speaker 1: Right was the fun? Well, yeah, this brings up one

512
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Speaker 1: of my favorite things about media, And I could say

513
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Speaker 1: this in media, the headline that really over promises.

514
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Speaker 5: Yeah, uh, are you aware of the story. I've done

515
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Speaker 5: a bunch of work with Pheasants Forever and quail Forever

516
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Speaker 5: and greatly respect the organization. And when you're around they

517
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 5: employ hundreds, literally one hundreds of biologists at that conservation organization,

518
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 5: and when you're around a group of these the story

519
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 5: always pops up. In the spring, they do a lot

520
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 5: of nesting surveys. They try to get a general population survey,

521
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Speaker 5: and then they can submit those numbers and then the

522
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 5: state can change the harvest regulations for those individual species. So,

523
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Speaker 5: like Steve was saying with quail, trying to listen for quail,

524
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Speaker 5: well they also listen. They do visual counts with pheasants,

525
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Speaker 5: and they used to team up with all their world

526
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Speaker 5: a lot of that today.

527
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Speaker 7: Uh.

528
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Speaker 5: They used to team up with a lot of rural

529
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 5: mail carriers, okay and so, and they have these very

530
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Speaker 5: specific that sly do this very specific criteria of at

531
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Speaker 5: this time in the morning, you drive this stretch your

532
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Speaker 5: own and you drive it this fast, and then you

533
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 5: report either what you see in the case of pheasants,

534
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 5: or what you hear. And in this case, the famous

535
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Speaker 5: kind of study that they talk about, or the instance

536
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 5: rather is on rough grouse because they get out and

537
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 5: they and they drum and they display sounds like you're

538
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Speaker 5: trying to.

539
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: Start an old lawnmoarder. I can do it perfectly ready.

540
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 6: No, that's not it.

541
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Speaker 3: It's more like this co to get focus together in

542
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Speaker 3: the zone like flow state.

543
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: No, it's like it's like, no Max had it.

544
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Speaker 5: So I want to say this is northern it's either

545
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Speaker 5: Michigan or Minnesota. I apologize for mixing the m states

546
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 5: up there, but it's Michigan or Minnesota. And you know,

547
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 5: thirty year career of a rural male route carrier.

548
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Speaker 1: That's a that's such a I never thought of that.

549
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: This is a genius thing to do. I'm always impressed

550
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,479
Speaker 1: when how long you had a shop, He's like, I've

551
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: been driving his rolls for twenty years. You've seen a

552
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Speaker 1: lot est.

553
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the counts are always dismal, dismal, dismal, dismal.

554
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: First you be like, do you hunt pheasants? Because if

555
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: you hunt pheasants. You don't get to participate. You're not

556
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: the real carrier nothing I have seen nothing, not one

557
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: shocking help you there.

558
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 6: Are, and then come around next time and have a

559
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Speaker 6: banner pheasant year.

560
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Speaker 5: This particular dude just flat out couldn't hear it was

561
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 5: just freaking death. Could not hear that. Yeah, and so

562
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 5: you hear that story often in that circle. So that's

563
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 5: where AI cam cam come in handy and eliminates the uh,

564
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Speaker 5: the bias.

565
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Speaker 3: You can call it a little quality control.

566
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Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you a quick story, nothing to

567
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: do with any of this, but I keep thinking about it.

568
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: As Clay was talking to a this don in Arkansas.

569
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Speaker 1: Is this family's old guys and they really had just

570
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: their long run of killing giant bucks, and other people

571
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: would just get jealous and pissed. And so what you're doing.

572
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: You're jealous of someone, you start like rumors about them.

573
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: And Clay says, one of these old guys, you know

574
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Speaker 1: a lot of people say that you killed all those

575
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Speaker 1: bucks at night, And the guy says, you know how

576
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Speaker 1: hard it is to kill one of those bucks in

577
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: the daytime? Can you imagine doing it in the dark.

578
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Speaker 6: That's pretty funny.

579
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Speaker 1: Here's a big news. Are we doing this right? We're

580
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Speaker 1: announcing this now. Listeners to the show will probably know

581
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Speaker 1: the Meat Eater, Fish and Game Cookbook, which big best seller.

582
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: Half a million of those suckers are out there in print.

583
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Speaker 1: Well do you follow up the it's usually bad? Phil?

584
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: Would you say it's bad when there's a sophomore effort?

585
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: Is that always negative?

586
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Speaker 5: And it's it's kind of a test. It's you know,

587
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Speaker 5: like a ban will put out a record it's great,

588
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Speaker 5: and that's like, well, let's see how their second one

589
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Speaker 5: and goes.

590
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Speaker 8: I think this is I think that's just a I mean,

591
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Speaker 8: you can have a great sophomore.

592
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's kind of like a benchmark for the sophomore.

593
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Speaker 3: Just I think it's just like an order, you know, like.

594
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Speaker 1: Order got it. So it's not like passingerudgment. Yeah. I

595
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Speaker 1: feel like I read like like the sophomore album didn't do.

596
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Speaker 3: Well what they call it to fall separate.

597
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not going to use that. The much anticipated

598
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Speaker 1: follow up there, it is, the much anticipated follow up

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Speaker 1: to The Meat Eater, Fishing Game Cookbook is publicating. That's

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Speaker 1: not a word publishing. Its publishing April twenty third. It's

601
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Speaker 1: available available for pre order now wherever books are sold.

602
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Speaker 1: It is called The Meat Eater Outdoor Cookbook, Wild Game

603
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Speaker 1: Recipes for the grill, smoker, camp stove, and Campfire. For

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Speaker 1: a long time we were going to call the book

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Speaker 1: from the Backyard to the back Country, but felt that

606
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Speaker 1: it was two cutesy. But you know what I mean,

607
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Speaker 1: from the backyard to the back country. But it is

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Speaker 1: The Meat Eater Outdoor cook Wild Game Recipes for the grill, smoker,

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Speaker 1: camp stove, and Campfire. This book covers everything in shocking detail,

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Speaker 1: stunning photography of how to take a marmot. This is

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Speaker 1: just kind of making a point up front, how to

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Speaker 1: take a marmot and cook it the way small animals

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Speaker 1: were cooked by planes tribes on the American Great Planes

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Speaker 1: for one, where they would take small animals and just

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Speaker 1: simply roll them around in the ashes and burn all

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Speaker 1: their hair off and then roast them skin in. We

617
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Speaker 1: talk about that as a setup, but then it gets

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Speaker 1: into all manner of barbecuing, smoking, everything, camp cookery. It's

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Speaker 1: way more beautiful than our last book. More than one

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Speaker 1: hundred recipes for cooking outdoors, which includes everything down to

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Speaker 1: frying fish, which is best done outdoors. Outdoors. It's cool.

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Speaker 1: It's got a lot of stuff. It has like a

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Speaker 1: real coffee table book quality to it, because some of

624
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Speaker 1: the stuff you might not ever make, but it's so

625
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Speaker 1: badass looking that you'll just like to look at it.

626
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Speaker 1: It's gorgeous.

627
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Speaker 3: Did the beer Guts make it?

628
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Speaker 1: No, the beer guts aren't in it.

629
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Speaker 3: That's for the next book, the junior book.

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Speaker 1: Calum vent at the recipe this morning, which is Guts.

631
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Speaker 3: And Beer phenomenal. It was four point five.

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Speaker 1: We will be talking about this cookbook in greater detail

633
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Speaker 1: later on, but I'm just gonna remind everybody now. It's

634
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Speaker 1: available for pre order pubs April twenty third, and it

635
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Speaker 1: is a if you love the meat Eater, Fish and

636
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Speaker 1: Game cookbook, this is that same great quality, highly tested recipes,

637
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Speaker 1: but everything for cooking outdoors again, from having a big

638
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Speaker 1: old party in your yard to cooking for you and

639
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Speaker 1: your body on top of a mountain with a backpack

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Speaker 1: and stove. Everything for outdoor cooking. Now's the part you

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Speaker 1: guys come in.

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Speaker 4: Hell, Yeah, I didn't mean that, would you say? April

643
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Speaker 4: twenty ninth, I gotta get that for the old man

644
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Speaker 4: A twenty third Yeah.

645
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Speaker 5: Well, We know these guys are fired up on food.

646
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Speaker 1: So I think.

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Speaker 4: Beautiful that Barnes and Noble get to where you need

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Speaker 4: to go, get that hardcover.

649
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Speaker 3: Let it put it right there. You a walk in

650
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Speaker 3: goes that the new is that the new sophomore.

651
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Speaker 4: Media listen anticipated is that the sophomore highly anticipated new one.

652
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Speaker 3: You don't have to start pushing this even more a

653
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Speaker 3: month before Father's Day.

654
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Speaker 1: Oh, we're gonna push it heavy. This is just a

655
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Speaker 1: prelude to the push because it's so good. We worked

656
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Speaker 1: on I mean we worked on it for years.

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Speaker 4: Pretty push.

658
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Speaker 1: We worked on it for years.

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 1: We even't had to hire I'll tell you this, this

661
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Speaker 1: will tittlate the listeners. Then we're done talking about it.

662
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Speaker 1: We had the higher firefighters to be there for some

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Speaker 1: of our preparations.

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Speaker 4: Really m hmm, like just in case there was a fire, or.

665
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Speaker 1: We're doing some of the stuff in the summer, and

666
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Speaker 1: and and just because of various issues. But I'm saying

667
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Speaker 1: that's the kind of cookbook this is.

668
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

669
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 5: They also make fire photography.

670
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a lot of ways to burn your fingers.

671
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: That should have been the subtitle. Well, let me give

672
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: you a couple for instances, how to take a we

673
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: do so everyone knows, like burying like lou wild style pigs, right, So,

674
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: how to cook venison shoulders, venison legs in a half

675
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: of an oil drum. How to put whole ducks and

676
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: birds just on spikes on sticks and cook them like

677
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: a ring so you have a fire with a ring

678
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 1: of birds roasting on sticks around the fire. But also

679
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: how to throw a kick ass catfish fry so rick

680
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: really technical stuff that like that requires a lot of

681
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: requires a lot of macguiver, ring making, contraptions, making makeshift grills,

682
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: making makeshift smokers using souped up sophisticated smokers is all

683
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: in there. If you like to go outside and cook.

684
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: This is your book.

685
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 3: This is it. What's your favorite Uh? What's the most

686
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 3: unique recipe in there? Too? Good question?

687
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: My favorite one in there isn't even in there, but

688
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: there's pictures of it in there. Is no It's like

689
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: one of those things you can't really it's not really

690
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: a recipe, but it's the thing you talk about. There's

691
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: two because they both involved contraptions that I like a lot.

692
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 3: Uh.

693
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: When where I grew up, it was you would you

694
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: would like if you got married, if your kid graduated

695
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: from high school, if you turn forty, you would throw

696
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 1: a pig roast. You would host a pig roast where

697
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: you take a whole hog and and you know, put

698
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: the apple in its mouth and cook the pig. Yeah,

699
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: so we do. We have a great little welded up

700
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: contraption for doing that and talk about that. But it's

701
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: not so much a recipe, it's like a it's a

702
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: procedure for a recipe. One of my favorite things is

703
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: if you ever go down when you're in Mexico, particularly

704
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: down the Yucatan peninsula, and you see that they're making

705
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: those tacos l pastor where they have that that vertical

706
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: spit meat the meat rock. Ye, a vertical spit mounted

707
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: with lakelayers of mounted with layers down there. It's like

708
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: layers of pork and a pineapple sits on top of

709
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: the spit and there's a vertical heat source and so

710
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: it spins and then they cut tacos out of that.

711
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 3: So that sounds incredible.

712
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: No, that's really cool. Tacos l pastor. And I have

713
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: my buddy Ronnie made me my own one when I

714
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: got married, and that very uh, it's called a trompo,

715
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: and that very trompo I aftermarket rigged it with a

716
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: motor so you don't have to turn it by hand.

717
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: But that very trompo is in the book. And it's

718
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: how to make your own tacos l pastor so you

719
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: can be like Mexico and have a sweet taco party

720
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: with what we use deer meat. Deer meat on a

721
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: vertical spit. It's incredible looking, it's a real sight. It's

722
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: got a eye appeal.

723
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 3: And then didn't make the book just depends.

724
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: On that that's in the book. That's very detailed description

725
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: in the book. Roast is like it's like it's just

726
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: the thing you got to talk people through.

727
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a process, right, yeah, the.

728
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: Whole is it? Seventy five pounds is two hundred pounds? Yeah,

729
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: phenomenal book. All right, we return to our guests now,

730
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: Will Taylor, how do you guys want to talk about

731
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: your careers, your other careers, your pre col Yeah.

732
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, ball, we can talk. We can talk ball.

733
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 4: We went to ball.

734
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't then you feel bad the whole time, like, man,

735
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 3: we were pretty worthless and all these huntings.

736
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 4: Yeah no, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a level of like, uh,

737
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 4: because you get you guys are doers, Like I think

738
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 4: of us as like animals that live in houses and

739
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 4: that our parents got Relled's like, hey, we're done with

740
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 4: these animals. They took us out in the woods and

741
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 4: then we met you guys out door dogs first time.

742
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 4: They start talking abou all this shit, and we're like,

743
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 4: oh my god, we really have no idea what we're

744
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 4: doing here. But yeah, yeah, yeah, football, we did that.

745
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 4: So I played. I was at the Titans from twenty

746
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 4: fourteen until twenty twenty two, and that's where Will and

747
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 4: I met. But as I told you guys before the show,

748
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 4: I grew up in Arizona, went to the University of Michigan,

749
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 4: who I don't know when the show's coming out, but

750
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 4: they are playing in the National Championship on Monday.

751
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: Do you still feel an affinity?

752
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 4: So when I first left Michigan, I didn't at all.

753
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 4: I was kind of anti Michigan. And then well, when

754
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 4: I was there was like oh nine to thirteen, which

755
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 4: is when we were just terrible, we're awful football team,

756
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 4: and I and I get drafted. I was kind of,

757
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 4: oh whatever, And I play with these guys that went

758
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 4: to Alabama Georgia, Clemson, like all these teams that are

759
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 4: like winning national championships over and over again, and they

760
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 4: had like all this big pride. And when we got

761
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 4: Jim Harball, I started to feel a little bit more pride.

762
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 3: And then he started doing that. I was like, you know,

763
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 3: get this guy out of here. What do we do?

764
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 4: This guy needs to go. And now, like this is

765
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 4: actually the first year, even before the year, I chose

766
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 4: to be like a fan I want. I wanted to

767
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 4: buy into being a fan of football and like watch

768
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 4: a sport being like my first year out of football.

769
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a natural progression. You know. If

770
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: you imagine you grow up somewhere, all you want to

771
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: do is get out of there. You get out of there,

772
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: and then later you nostalgia and you're like, I should

773
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: just move back through with my kids.

774
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 3: That's exactly that you nailed it.

775
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 4: Because when I was in Arizona growing up, I was

776
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 4: like the desert ugly, it's not fun here. I want

777
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 4: to go somewhere, somewhere the four seasons end up going

778
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 4: to mission. My first winter, I had a pair of

779
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 4: Vans on probably the same jeans I'm wearing now, in

780
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 4: a zip up hooding, I was like, perfect winter. Yeah, literally,

781
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 4: I like saw snow like two times in my life.

782
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 4: The first one, I was like, if there was a

783
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 4: transfer portal, which is now. I don't how familiar guys

784
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 4: are with college football, but you can literally leave whenever

785
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 4: you want. Essentially, if that was established, I would have

786
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 4: sent my ass back to Arizona. And I heardfully, thankfully

787
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 4: it wasn't established yet. But now as I've gotten older,

788
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, something about an Arizona sunset, the desert,

789
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 4: the climate, everything is it's it's beautiful. We were talking

790
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 4: about Cave Creek. It's like the only place in the

791
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 4: world where you'll find like an old horse, a truck

792
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 4: in a ferrari in the same parking lot, and you

793
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 4: just it's just such a unique, cool town. And so

794
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 4: there is that level of nostalgia for sure.

795
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then you had bad you had some like

796
00:42:58,640 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: bad ish injuries.

797
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did, uh, more so recently though mostly recently.

798
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 3: So.

799
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 4: I actually was extremely lucky, Like in college.

800
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: Were told me today about getting getting knocked out.

801
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was fun. That was your bell wronging

802
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 4: your bell rung.

803
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: I didn't know that that could happen. He was telling

804
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: me that Taylor was telling me he got hit in

805
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: the way and this is the thing that happens to

806
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 1: people where you come to in your emotional.

807
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 3: Emotional They just told him that to make him feel

808
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: better about.

809
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 4: Good emotions.

810
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 5: Hurry up and get off. Yeah, was saying that when

811
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 5: he said he's lucky at one point and please don't

812
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 5: let me give it this wrong. So jump in. You

813
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 5: were with the Titans for seven years, nine nine years

814
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 5: and at one point every year counts count Oh yeah, man,

815
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 5: you were like the most tenured person on the entire team.

816
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, my last year, my last two years of the Titans,

817
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 4: I was I saw one hundred percent turnover. So I

818
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 4: was like the oldest guy in the room. They were

819
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 4: a guy that played more years in the league than

820
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 4: me in the room. But I was at the at

821
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 4: the Titans for the longest amount of time. And it

822
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 4: was a cool experience too because our first year we uh,

823
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 4: my first game, we played the Kansas City Chiefs in

824
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 4: in Kansas City and it was loud and it was

825
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 4: they have this thing during the national anthem to say

826
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 4: and the home of the and the whole the whole stadium,

827
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 4: Y knows.

828
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 1: Chiefs it's and like it startled me, startled me big time.

829
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 4: And uh we won too, like two games that year

830
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 4: and so my first and then the next year we

831
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 4: won three games and it was like just a we

832
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 4: were a horrible franchise and we won this big run

833
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 4: of going nine and seven a bunch, finally having like

834
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 4: a winning records. And then twenty nineteen to go to

835
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 4: the AFC Championship, played the Chiefs again in Kansas City

836
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 4: and lost. We were up by ten in the first quarter.

837
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 4: But there was it was just like it was cool

838
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 4: to be a part of something that was so abysmal

839
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 4: at one point and then helped like grow it into

840
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 4: something that at one point was an actual contender for

841
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl. Not not anymore. That tough yer for

842
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 4: the Boys, but yeah, tough year for the Boys. Yeah,

843
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 4: but yeah, yeah, getting knocked out.

844
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: We played it.

845
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 4: We played the Dolphins in twenty.

846
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 3: Eight longest game in NFL history, in NFL history, it

847
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 3: was like seven or eight hours long because of all

848
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: there's a lot of storms. So yeah, right, like yeah, yeah,

849
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 3: that was on the team.

850
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 4: That was a year we met and uh, I just

851
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 4: signed this deal and I came out in a boss

852
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 4: hog outfit, like all white suit, white hat. I had

853
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 4: a taxidermy beaver with me and I kind of did

854
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 4: this thing like Daddy's here, kind.

855
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: Of biggest contract for an olignement in NFL history at

856
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 3: the time. Oh I.

857
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: Love.

858
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

859
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 4: So I made this like big, like you know, theatrical

860
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 4: thing about it, and and Mike Rable, the head coach,

861
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 4: pulls me the office. He goes, that was funny.

862
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 3: It was good.

863
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 4: But I'm just let you know, there's gonna be guys

864
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 4: that don't like that. And sure enough, dude, we throw

865
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 4: a pick.

866
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: There's guys that don't like ostentatious.

867
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 9: Yeah.

868
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we played the Dolphins in my that's it

869
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 4: right there, ans And we play the Dolphins. We throw

870
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 4: a pick and it's like towards our sideline. I'm I

871
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 4: take pride. I used to take pride. After this, I

872
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 4: never took pride in it again. But like hawking down

873
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 4: trying to get a couple of stats, get a tackle,

874
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 4: like we talked about being patient, trying to get there,

875
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 4: and dude's coming down and I'm starting to run like this,

876
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 4: I'm looking and all of a sudden, boom lights her

877
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 4: out and there's actually I mean it's kind of funny,

878
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 4: but there's a hilarious video on YouTube of me like

879
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 4: dead bodied on the floor and.

880
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 3: Our teams like start it was a dirty hit.

881
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 4: So like our team and the Dolphins like start getting

882
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 4: in a scrum and I pop up because I like

883
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 4: go from being unconscious to very conscious, and I'm like looking,

884
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 4: I see everybody fighting, and I go to get in it,

885
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 4: and like people trainers are grabbing me, like Kevin Byer

886
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 4: or safety. I think there's a picture of you right

887
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 4: there too, grabbing me, like hey, no, no, you got knocked out,

888
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 4: you got knocked in. I was like, well, you know,

889
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 4: they just and I just start crying, like tears pouring

890
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 4: down my face and I'm like talking normal, and our

891
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 4: center Ben Jones like takes the towel and like puts

892
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 4: it over my head like he's embarrassed for me. Like listen, brother,

893
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 4: you need to get to the locker room as soon

894
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 4: as possible. But yeah, that was a that was a

895
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 4: bit of a deal, that that little knockout situation you're

896
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 4: seeing it.

897
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm watching it right now.

898
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: I'm dude, there's a dude on the Miami sideline just

899
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 3: looking at the camera. Body bag.

900
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 4: Line coach and the Dolphins is like, give him a

901
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 4: fist bump. I was like Andre branch is his name.

902
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 4: He was a backup you you know.

903
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 5: So it was it was it a clip or it

904
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 5: was just.

905
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

906
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 4: The next year they actually made that play illegal, that

907
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 4: that type of hit illegal.

908
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 3: One of those ones where you know, Taylor's like pursuing

909
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 3: to go get the ball carrier and whoever is coming

910
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 3: to block him, they don't even see him. So you're

911
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: just like looking your chops like you'll about to tee

912
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 3: off on this, right?

913
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: How do they define how do they define when they

914
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: made it illegal? How do they define it?

915
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 4: With defensive player? So like, if you're not aware of

916
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 4: the situation, if I'm pursuing you and someone's coming from

917
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 4: this side, I would be defenseless from your hit. I

918
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 4: would have to be aware of your hit coming in.

919
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: I supposed to keep all that street.

920
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 3: So many it's been like a transition for a lot of.

921
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 5: Guys offensive tackles, big big target to tee off on too.

922
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 3: Yeah if you yeah, oh, if they're not looking, yeah,

923
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 3: you got to t off on them. You don't want

924
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 3: to because you're thinking you're about to get swallowed up

925
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: by this boy.

926
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 5: My good did you did you get some tackles over

927
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 5: your I think I had like four or five I

928
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 5: usually yeah, yeah, a good little stuff, check that step.

929
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 4: I think I had like four or five throughout my career.

930
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, you were like, I can run

931
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 5: watch Oh yeah, say a little athletic out there.

932
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 3: Now. I you know, I don't want to continue to

933
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,479
Speaker 3: hype the boy, but you gotta hype the boy when

934
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 3: the time is necessary. Did you do you have the

935
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 3: record for forty times at the combine.

936
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 4: Now top It was top ten when I did the

937
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 4: the comments. Some dude been like a four to six

938
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 4: one time.

939
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 3: Oh gotcha.

940
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 5: I had that four five and nobody tried to like

941
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 5: pull you out to tight end or something like.

942
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 4: No, I was ripping at three ten, Like when you're

943
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 4: of that side. Nice, that's when, Yeah, that's when you're

944
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 4: and you don't want to you don't want to.

945
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 3: Try to move about a smart position as the blind side.

946
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah you want to.

947
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: He's like, no, baby, I was sawing this guy the

948
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: other day that was three ten.

949
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel pretty good right now.

950
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's And.

951
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 4: If you're if you're looking from like a from a

952
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 4: career stand where like a tackle, a left tackle specifically,

953
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 4: it's like a highly like a highly doubted, very high

954
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 4: paid position. It's a premium position because it's very low,

955
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 4: low supply and extremely high demand.

956
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 5: Well, you're gonna zip out and hit guys like this, yeah.

957
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, when he goes second level. Yeah.

958
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 4: Well, we actually played each other in college too, you yeah, yeah,

959
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 4: we play each other feed What was it? What do

960
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 4: we doy twelve?

961
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: Did you know you played each other? Were you not?

962
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 3: At the time? Though, not until we may.

963
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 4: You see a white guy, a white linebacker with the

964
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 4: last name Compton. You're gonna remember that guy.

965
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: Remember that guy there was It was the first time

966
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 3: we played against each other. I think it was twenty fifteen,

967
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: maybe the league.

968
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the first time we played your a year

969
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 4: two fourteen, Okay, so fourteen at the Redskins or at

970
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 4: the Commanders. Yeah, excuse me, we're at at Washington. But

971
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 4: we played each other in college once too, twice in

972
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 4: college twice in college you got one and I got

973
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 4: one one on one, and then you won one in.

974
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 3: The in the NFL. Yeah. But the first time we

975
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 3: saw each other, like Taylor saying, like you see another

976
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: white guy on the field, you're kind of like, hey,

977
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 3: we're kind of doing it.

978
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 4: We're beating the odds, right, we're beating the odds.

979
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 3: Like the first play happened, I remember like tapping him

980
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 3: on the helmet the first time we ever we were

981
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 3: we're doing it out here.

982
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 9: Yeah.

983
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it.

984
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 4: Is, especially for linebacker off it's a line there's a

985
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 4: pluthor of white dudes out there, and I don't want

986
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 4: to turn this into a white That's not what this

987
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 4: show needs to be about. But there is very like

988
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 4: a lot of times, not a whole lot of white

989
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 4: guys on the defensive side of the ball. I think

990
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 4: there's a bunch of times you were on the field

991
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 4: only white.

992
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 3: Solo, white sold patrol. Yeah. It is.

993
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 4: Uh, it's an interesting world, man. But yeah, we we

994
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 4: met in twenty eighteen. Well, talk about your career.

995
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 3: I've been going about.

996
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: My Yeah, well, well he did you a great service.

997
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: I'll do you only highlights.

998
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, when he starts, I'll interject. Trust me, I'm

999
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 4: great at interrupting for that. I will definitely when I

1000
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 4: when I found my moment, I'll be there.

1001
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1002
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 3: So out of Missouri in my career, I thought I was.

1003
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: Gonna be Missouri.

1004
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1005
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, small town bonterare Missouri. Shout out bon Ter.

1006
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 9: Uh.

1007
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 3: I thought I was going to be the next Walter

1008
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 3: Payton as I was growing up and realized than everybody,

1009
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: Yeah he has a running back. You know, you're playing

1010
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 3: both ways and you want to be an offensive you

1011
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 3: want to score touchdowns. But you learned very quickly that

1012
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 3: that's not going to be your future. Uh. Got recruited,

1013
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 3: went to Nebraska, played in Nebraska for five years, one undrafted,

1014
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 3: was with Washington for five years, the Titans for two,

1015
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 3: and the Raiders for two. But the Titans and Raiders,

1016
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 3: I was like twenty eighteen. I was on the Titans

1017
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 3: that year. Then I was a free agent, went out

1018
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 3: to Oakland. Then I was a free agent back to

1019
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 3: the Titans. Then I was a free agent and then

1020
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 3: went with the Las Vegas Raiders late that year. And

1021
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 3: then that's that's kind of been that's kind of been

1022
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 3: my journey. More of a road dog, more of a

1023
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 3: road dog.

1024
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 5: Can you just explain the mindset of a free agent

1025
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 5: versus a mindset of a what would you assigned player?

1026
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 3: What what's the the mindset? Like? What do you mean? Like? Uh,

1027
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 3: like if the contract is coming up or not.

1028
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 5: It's there all one one year.

1029
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're on your rookie deal, you have like

1030
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 3: a three or four year deal, depending on where you

1031
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 3: got drafted. Like being undrafted, I was on a three

1032
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 3: year deal. If you're drafted, you play four years, and

1033
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 3: if you're in a if you're a first rounder, there's

1034
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 3: a fifth year option. So there's a lot of those

1035
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 3: business dynamics that go into it. Uh, But fortunately I

1036
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 3: got to play for Washington for five years. The first

1037
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 3: year I was practice squad the whole year, and then

1038
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 3: the second year, which is where my initial contract basically

1039
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 3: kicked in. Like they kind of had me hostage from

1040
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 3: the business standpoint for a couple of years, and I

1041
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 3: mean I was kind of like cutting my teeth in

1042
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 3: Washington in year two to where I was I established

1043
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 3: myself going in year three and four for sure, or

1044
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 3: the year three years three through five. So that mindset

1045
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 3: was more of like, you know, you felt like you

1046
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 3: were you know, you were part of the bigger picture.

1047
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 3: You were looking on when you were going into the offseason,

1048
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 3: You're like looking to build on the year you just had,

1049
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: or which guys are we going to bring in who

1050
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: potentially you might draft. I know for myself the position

1051
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 3: I was in every draft. For me every year, you

1052
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 3: didn't want a team to draft anybody in your spot

1053
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 3: because you kind of just you know, the pecking order

1054
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 3: that kind of happens in the politics of it all.

1055
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 3: Like with Tennessee, I became a free agent signed to

1056
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 3: Tennessee on kind of a low one year for two deal,

1057
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 3: and it was kind of one of those situations where

1058
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 3: it's kind of like a proven deal, So yeah, what

1059
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 3: you want to play well in that year to get

1060
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 3: like a two, three, four year deal, right, And that

1061
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 3: year when I signed with Tennessee, the draft comes around.

1062
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 3: They draft a linebacker in the first round. So you remember,

1063
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 3: I remember sitting at the bar in Germantown in Nashville,

1064
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 3: and I was just thinking, damn, like you just kind

1065
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: of know what time it is, like that guy's gonna play.

1066
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 3: So you know, you got to kind of be like fluid.

1067
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 3: It's like a very fluid mentality, because you know there

1068
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 3: are times like when I got done with Tennessee that

1069
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 3: first year where when we started the podcast, my mindset

1070
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 3: was I've put together six years and I'm basically just

1071
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 3: going to bet on my resume because I now I

1072
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 3: don't I've tasted it too much to where I don't

1073
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 3: want to be a guy on a ninety man roster

1074
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 3: and try to make the fifty three Like in my

1075
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 3: brain like I'm a fifty three guy, So I'll just

1076
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 3: bet on guys getting hurt and then getting called up

1077
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 3: or signed in the middle of the year right before

1078
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: the season starts, and kind of took that approach for

1079
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 3: the rest of my career unless I was able to

1080
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 3: establish myself again to get like a multi year deal,

1081
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 3: which didn't happen, but I got to take that same approach.

1082
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 3: So that's kind of like how it changes. Yeah, Like

1083
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 3: if you're you know, on Taylor spot and he can

1084
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 3: he can speak to this, but when you're in, when

1085
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 3: you're in those spots where you're part of the future

1086
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 3: and everything else, you might go back to the table

1087
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 3: and start renegotiating a year maybe two in advance to

1088
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 3: kind of lock in your future. Like there was a

1089
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 3: guy who never wanted to go anywhere else, which is

1090
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 3: you're not telling that to the organization because you're trying

1091
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 3: to you're trying to play that game of leverage, but

1092
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 3: ultimately you try and get yourself locked into that same

1093
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 3: situation because you hate switching locations.

1094
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 5: But is there the same level of comfort in your

1095
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 5: position as a free agent as opposed to somebody who's

1096
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 5: got this multi year contract. I can't imagine.

1097
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 3: No, No, not at all.

1098
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 4: Like there's like I feel like only the paranoid survive

1099
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 4: in the NFL. You have to be paranoid at all times.

1100
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone else. We had another player on recently, Derek

1101
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: Wolfe was on. Yeah, he had a couple of things

1102
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: you talk about. One thing you talk about is just

1103
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: that that sense of someone's coming for you, at someone

1104
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: coming up that wants your job. You're always fighting, you

1105
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You never like just relaxed into it.

1106
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, because there's always some kid coming out

1107
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: of college and watch your job.

1108
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 4: There's different there's different level stead obviously, like in Will's position,

1109
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 4: being an undrafted cat and working to get on the

1110
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 4: roster this first couple of years and fighting through the

1111
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 4: fringe essentially to become an established part of a franchise

1112
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 4: is one thing. When you're drafted like I was drafted

1113
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 4: in the first round, you have to mess up really

1114
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 4: bad till I get essentially not have those three four years,

1115
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 4: so you some guys will kind of take a back seat.

1116
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 4: I'm good, I made some money all that. But if

1117
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 4: you don't constantly think to yourself, hey, someone's going to

1118
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 4: try to take something from you. There's some kid that's

1119
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 4: a freshman in college right now that's going to get

1120
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 4: drafted and try to take your job. Like there always

1121
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 4: has to be some sort of like they're coming, they're

1122
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 4: coming feeling like there's like some sort of paranoid And

1123
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 4: it really is.

1124
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 3: In your situation too, Like you know, when you care

1125
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 3: about what you're doing and you want to play at

1126
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 3: a really high level or perform any job at a

1127
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 3: high level, like and you're a first rounder, like you

1128
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 3: want to be able to hold the standard. I want

1129
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 3: to be the guy that they think I am throughout

1130
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 3: your career. So then when you do have LALs like

1131
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 3: I know, that just goes on in your mind, like, man,

1132
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 3: I go, I gotta play better. They thought they expected

1133
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 3: me to be a starter this year. I don't feel

1134
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 3: like I'm playing at starter level. Like all these different

1135
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 3: parandormies are constantly here.

1136
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 4: There's a big world for self doubt, a massive world

1137
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 4: for self doubt and it's a very ruthless and cutthroat

1138
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 4: business because you when you go to college, if you

1139
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 4: if you're lucky enough to get offered to a school,

1140
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 4: you're there for three to five years. If you can

1141
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 4: leave early, you do, and sometimes your red shirt and

1142
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 4: you do the whole thing. Will and I both red

1143
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 4: shirt and played the four years after that. But when

1144
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 4: you go to the NFL, it's like, if you're a

1145
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 4: cat that's let's say fourth round to undrafted you are.

1146
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 4: You don't have two, three four years to develop. It's

1147
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 4: like even if you signed that three four year game, right,

1148
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 4: So there's guys. I remember the first time cuts would happen,

1149
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 4: and back in twenty fourteen, the way cuts were, there's

1150
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 4: four preseason games and then the third preseason game they

1151
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 4: would go from a ninety man roster to a seventy

1152
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 4: five man roster. And then after the fourth preseason game,

1153
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 4: you go seventy five to your fifty three, which is

1154
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 4: your your team. And then you have about ten guys

1155
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 4: on practice squad who aren't getting paid salary like the

1156
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 4: salary you would get if you're in the NFL. But

1157
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 4: you're you're there, you're practicing. You don't have to be

1158
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 4: at the games that type of thing, and you'd be

1159
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 4: around guys that are like kind of excited about the season,

1160
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 4: how do you think we're gonna do? And then two

1161
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 4: weeks later they're, you know, weeping bringing their playbook because

1162
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 4: they know they're getting cut right then and there, and

1163
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 4: you just it just you have to change your mindset

1164
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 4: in such a hurry to know that, Okay, there's no

1165
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 4: time to develop, like any weak point in your game

1166
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 4: that will expose you, you better work on that craft immediately,

1167
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 4: otherwise you could be set out.

1168
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 3: The door in any moment. M and and with obviously

1169
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 3: all sports, but with football too, like it is it's

1170
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 3: such a performance based business. Like you're you're going to practice,

1171
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 3: you're watching every rep of practice with in front of

1172
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 3: the team meeting and position meetings. Then you got to

1173
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: you know, refocus for the next day the highs and lows,

1174
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 3: like you're just constantly being evaluated every day. So there's

1175
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 3: never a there's never a level of like comfort even

1176
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 3: if you are good, because you still want to play

1177
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 3: at a very high level, like every guy who's in

1178
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 3: a starting lineup ultimately like wants to be a super

1179
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 3: Bowl champion. Or if they want to attain being a

1180
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 3: pro bowler, Like they all want to be the best.

1181
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 3: If you're a guy who's a backup, you're kind of

1182
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 3: just waiting for opportunity to be a starter. If you're

1183
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 3: kind of like third or four stringer, kind of on

1184
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 3: that fringe, you're just you're trying to fight so you

1185
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 3: can be part of that crew who gets to look

1186
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 3: at each opponent you know, as like something to look

1187
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 3: forward to, versus like your team is all of your opponents,

1188
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 3: because you've got to like make the team. So there's

1189
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 3: always like a different level. But it's like performance based

1190
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 3: every day.

1191
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: Like, so with the path you took, you ever do

1192
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: you ever get money, like sorry, a chance to make

1193
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: real money or is it is it real like you're

1194
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: sort of living hand in mouth all the time.

1195
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 3: Uh No, Yeah, I had opportunities. It was like so

1196
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 3: practice squad, you know, if you get if you're playing

1197
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 3: on practice squad. Like my practice squad salary my very

1198
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 3: first year was one hundred and twelve thousand was the saldy. Okay, Yeah,

1199
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 3: so you're making solid money, but compared to being active,

1200
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 3: you're making my rookie salary. Say, I was playing that

1201
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 3: very first year, it's like four hundred and fifty, and

1202
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 3: then it goes up more after that. Your chance to

1203
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 3: make the big money is in your second contract, your

1204
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 3: third contract. I know for me, my biggest one I

1205
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 3: had was that one year for two with Tennessee and

1206
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 3: when I was like a restrict free agent. But the

1207
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 3: year to year after that, I was like a one

1208
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 3: year minimum guy. But the longer you're in the league,

1209
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 3: the more that floor goes up. But if you're like,

1210
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 3: you know, Taylor can speak to this, like when you're

1211
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 3: you're trying to get that second contract, when they tell

1212
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 3: guys like you got a lot of you know, X

1213
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 3: y Z, Like Taylor's a cat to where hey, in

1214
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 3: year four, when did when'd you sign your deal? You're

1215
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 3: four year four, going going into five? Yeah, going into five.

1216
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 3: Like Taylor he put you know, he took advantage of

1217
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 3: all those first four years to put himself in a

1218
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 3: position to make that lucrative deal. And that's where, guys,

1219
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 3: where the guarantees happen, Like, you know, a five year

1220
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 3: deal for X amount of millions of dollars and then

1221
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 3: after that again in the NFL, you just basically take

1222
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 3: your salary or your contract and cut it in half.

1223
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 3: Like if you're a five year guy. The majority of

1224
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 3: Vets who signed like a five six year deal like

1225
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 3: think two or three, because once you're guaranteed money's up,

1226
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 3: they're gonna you're back to having to earn it at

1227
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 3: all times.

1228
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 4: At all times. It's yeah, it's a bit of a

1229
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 4: deal man, it really is.

1230
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 3: Mm hm.

1231
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: So tell how you tell how you then met?

1232
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 4: Yes, so I kept the truck a little bit.

1233
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: It's really cute because you guys friends, thought you'd be

1234
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: best friends.

1235
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Will coming from the recue, coming from the Redskins.

1236
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 4: I remember I was sitting in the cold tub and

1237
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 4: just kind of you know, surfing the bird Twitter at

1238
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 4: that at that point, and uh, I see this tweet

1239
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 4: or it's an article. It's like Will Compton signs with

1240
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 4: the Tennessee Titans, he will be best friends with Taylor

1241
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 4: lay Blake.

1242
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 3: Lawrence had the tweet, and then that tweet was using.

1243
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 4: It was like getting your marriage arranged. I was like

1244
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 4: kind of like, hell, yeah, dude, was my best friend gone?

1245
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 4: And so Willy shows up and uh they were clearly

1246
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 4: right immediately, like we established our friendship very quickly.

1247
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: What was it that they were anticipating you're going to

1248
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: bond over.

1249
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 4: I just think we both like when you're in the media.

1250
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 4: When you do media, some guys handle themselves saying as

1251
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 4: little as possible. Some guys just stick with the game plan.

1252
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 4: I was much more theatrical. Will is a wordsmith with

1253
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 4: his thumbs, the way he was putting out.

1254
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that review of the of the Gut beer exactly here.

1255
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: He reviewed that dish, and I thought, I thought he

1256
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: had studied up and made up a thing ahead of time, like.

1257
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 5: He'd been sitting there the whole time being like this

1258
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 5: is what I'm gonna say.

1259
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say premeditated. Bill confident is very premeditated the

1260
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 4: way he handles himself. But for whatever reason, people are like,

1261
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 4: these guys are gonna be They're gonna be boys, and uh,

1262
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 4: I don't. The first time he met was probably in

1263
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 4: the lunch hale.

1264
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably probably breakfast club because camping Aro like me

1265
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 3: being a frasing coming in, you're kind of like leaning

1266
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 3: to the other free agents. WY just get signed because

1267
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 3: you're like the new guys, right, So we would sit

1268
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 3: at breakfast and, you know, chop it up and have

1269
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 3: fun and laugh and stuff and I remember one time, Yeah,

1270
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 3: Taylor came over and like I said, I like, hey, boys,

1271
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 3: what were we talking about? I'm trying to laugh, like,

1272
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 3: and then it kind of like just grew from there.

1273
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 3: I mean I stayed at this the Candlewood Sweets. It

1274
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 3: was like a hotel right down from the facility payah, Yeah,

1275
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 3: and that's where they was. That's where they put the

1276
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 3: free agents, and you basically just prolong your stay until

1277
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 3: you felt like you had an idea of if you

1278
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 3: were going to be, you know, with the team for

1279
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 3: a year, because you don't want to sign into a

1280
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 3: year lease and thinking I might get cut, so.

1281
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: You got to live with other dudes who are trying

1282
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: to make it too.

1283
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,439
Speaker 3: No, well, the many you're outside of your rookie deal,

1284
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 3: you don't get paired up with roommates anymore. But when

1285
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 3: you're a rookie in those first couple of years, like you,

1286
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 3: they would put you with guys in the hotel, like

1287
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 3: when the team's go into the hotel.

1288
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: Then it's just all competitions all the time.

1289
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, all the time.

1290
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 5: It's gotta be some real hits and misses on the

1291
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 5: roommates that you Yeah, I had.

1292
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 3: Not to get too often. Age my very first roommate,

1293
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 3: he had a he did a terrible job at missing

1294
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 3: the rim at night going to the bathroom, and he

1295
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 3: never cleaned it up, and it blew my mind, blew

1296
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 3: my mind. He would shave and get stuff all over

1297
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 3: the sink, and I'm just thinking, bro, we're sharing this.

1298
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: You sound a little squeamish to me.

1299
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just go in and like, you know, you're

1300
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 3: going in the middle of the night, you step in

1301
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 3: some piss and you're just thinking, what are we doing? Brother, Like,

1302
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 3: turn the light on, figure it out. He wasn't a kicker,

1303
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 3: was no, he was an offensive lineman. I mean there's

1304
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 3: some dirty animal dirty.

1305
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, traditionally gross individuals.

1306
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, and then we started bonding over you know,

1307
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 3: as we circle to the podcasting world, we bonded over

1308
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 3: a lot of podcasting Rogan uh Ben Greenfield, he's big

1309
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 3: into like a lot of performance stuff, bio hacking, and

1310
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 3: so with our you know what we were doing, we

1311
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 3: we called each other account of bill of Buddies to

1312
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 3: where we'd be doing the song of the Cold Tub,

1313
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 3: like we'd be doing all this stuff with each other.

1314
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 3: And then Taylor would always you know, he's somebody who

1315
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 3: when he he loves, he loves hard. So he would

1316
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 3: always want me to come over to his house, like

1317
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 3: every day. He would be like He'd just open it

1318
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 3: up for me every day. So he was kind of

1319
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 3: like the he was kind of like the one like hey, yeah,

1320
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 3: he would call me, be on speakerphone with him and

1321
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 3: his wife, who yet to me, Like, I was just

1322
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 3: telling Tailor about this tweet you had, like remember Malcolm Butler,

1323
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,919
Speaker 3: like he talked about I thought you was a kicker

1324
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 3: because you seem like you got a construction worker body,

1325
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 3: you know. But yeah, and then it was just just

1326
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 3: ascended from there. Man. We were boys, can.

1327
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 2: You guys do your handshake this whole.

1328
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 3: Thing right there.

1329
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 4: That's a small one and stuff like that.

1330
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 3: And that was what April may. And then he's inviting

1331
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 3: me to his wedding, which was in June, and I

1332
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 3: felt very like, I'm not like the most committal. I'm like,

1333
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 3: oh yeah, you know, and they're like, no, you're going.

1334
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 3: You have to go. You have to go, like we

1335
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 3: already did. We already got the spot for you.

1336
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 4: You have to go rooms taking care of you have

1337
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 4: to be to buy your flight.

1338
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: We ordered, we ordered your chicken breast exactly.

1339
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 5: Catering is this much per play?

1340
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 3: Yeah? And then from there, man, we just we worked

1341
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 3: out together in the summer at UH at the Vanderbilt University. UH.

1342
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 3: That's where we trained together in the off season, and

1343
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 3: then we just we kicked it off once the season

1344
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 3: hit and we were just that was that's that's the homie.

1345
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 5: That's awesome story. Well told.

1346
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a question.

1347
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 6: So you guys have both like switched teams and moved.

1348
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 6: What's that like on like your wife's and girlfriends?

1349
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 2: Like, is that tough?

1350
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know the time went op, especially if you

1351
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 6: have kids too.

1352
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 5: I'm sure that's yeah.

1353
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 3: I mean my wife that I have now, we weren't

1354
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 3: we were. We were just together when I went from

1355
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 3: Washington to Tennessee. Then I talked to her into moving

1356
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 3: to Tennessee and then as we I forget if we

1357
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 3: were engaged when I went to Oakland. No, I don't

1358
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 3: think it was, because that was the year I engaged.

1359
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 3: I proposed to her. But yeah, when you're leaving, So

1360
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 3: the Oakland situation happened, and that was like the last

1361
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 3: that was middle of the year. I was with the

1362
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 3: Saints for like a couple of coffee, like ten days

1363
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 3: in the for the fourth preseason game, they called me

1364
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 3: up and I was like, oh man, I'm about to

1365
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 3: sign with the team right before the season starts. I

1366
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 3: didn't have to do any training camp. I didn't have

1367
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 3: to bang, so I didn't have to I didn't have

1368
01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 3: to be out in the heat. I didn't have to

1369
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 3: do all that stuff on my man about to be

1370
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 3: on the squad, like just from you know, from the

1371
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 3: start of the season. I get hurt in the fourth

1372
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 3: preseason game, get an injury, get cut, injury settlement, and

1373
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 3: then I'm kind of like on the couch until middle

1374
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 3: of the year, and then that's when Oakland called. There

1375
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 3: was a big part of me that didn't want to

1376
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 3: go at the time, and I think it's just because

1377
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 3: I just didn't want to travel and I was just

1378
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 3: kind of being a bitch. But my wife, you know,

1379
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 3: she you know, she basically like, hey, you got to go.

1380
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 3: You know, you have to go. It does suck, but ultimately,

1381
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 3: you know, it's for a short period like two months

1382
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 3: tops at that time, and so then you know, when

1383
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 3: the season was over, she'd come out and visit. Then

1384
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 3: I come back home and I never really had to

1385
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 3: do it, like while we were married, while we were

1386
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 3: with a kid. I almost did last year when I

1387
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 3: signed with the Atlanta Falcons, which that would have been

1388
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 3: weird beginning. I would only been gone for like a

1389
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 3: month or two, So I never had to experience it

1390
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 3: at the level that other guys have. Like we've had

1391
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 3: teammates to where they have a house or a place

1392
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 3: in the city, like say Nashville, and then their their

1393
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 3: family stays back because they might have kids who are

1394
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 3: already going to school and stuff, so they don't want

1395
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 3: to take them out of school like some of the

1396
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 3: older heads, and so they would just travel back and

1397
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 3: forth whenever they could, or just host them out for

1398
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 3: a game.

1399
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, when Will went to the Raiders that one time

1400
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 4: for those couple of months we the Titans actually played

1401
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 4: the Raiders in Oakland, it was like the second to

1402
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 4: last game in Oakland.

1403
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 3: In the Coliseum, and there was this kid there.

1404
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 4: He's like, now, one of the best pass rushers in

1405
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:20,719
Speaker 4: all of the NFL's name is Max Crosby.

1406
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 3: He went to Eastern Michigan. He's an absolute stud.

1407
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 4: And he apparently like Will walked in and he's like, yoh,

1408
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 4: the boy, which is like kind of like our call

1409
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 4: thing for busting with the boys is like he was like,

1410
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 4: watched the show.

1411
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 3: He was like about it.

1412
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 4: Well, we go to play the play the Raiders and

1413
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 4: Will tells Max He's like, every sack you get on Taylor,

1414
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 4: I'll give you five hundred dollars. Will was plotting my

1415
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 4: demise before the game. The NFL is hard enough, then

1416
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 4: you're putting like the financial incentive under it. Thank God

1417
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 4: it didn't happen.

1418
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 5: It didn't have that's amazing.

1419
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:50,560
Speaker 4: I was stressed out about that.

1420
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 5: What because we we did throw out some some stats

1421
01:08:55,720 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 5: there for Taylor. The sacks are the thing when you're linebacker,

1422
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 5: the thing.

1423
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you ever get any buddy, oh brother, get anybody.

1424
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 3: Something? If you want to pull it up, I'm sure

1425
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 3: you'll find it. There's a there's a sack out there

1426
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 3: that's flowing around that people like to reflect on once

1427
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 3: a year. And when I say people, I mean myself.

1428
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:18,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, I had one. I had one sack to

1429
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 3: my name, one sack. Sam Bradford dabbed on him as well.

1430
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 3: It was it was. It was one of the highs

1431
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 3: of my career for sure. And then you know, I

1432
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 3: don't want to get to three interceptions. How many tackles. Uh,

1433
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 3: it's in the three hundreds. Oh wow the tackles.

1434
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:39,799
Speaker 5: Were you playing outside?

1435
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 7: No?

1436
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 2: I was?

1437
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 3: I was inside off Okay, So I was never like

1438
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,560
Speaker 3: a yeah, yeah, you see the short arms, like I'm

1439
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 3: no pass pass rush expert. Uh. Taylor blocked me a

1440
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 3: couple of times in practice, which really pissed me off

1441
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 3: because they were walkthroughs.

1442
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 5: But it never never never give out here.

1443
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, never gifted in the pass rush Candy.

1444
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, because Will would be he's an off the ball

1445
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 4: linebacker inside the box, and he's got the green dogs

1446
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 4: from the neck.

1447
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 3: We're playing from the He's instinctive.

1448
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 4: Here we go, compliments Will, Is it extremely instinctive able

1449
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 4: to see formations of offenses and know essentially where the

1450
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 4: ball is going to go, if it's going to be

1451
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 4: a run or a pass. Like the man is a

1452
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 4: student of the game. But when he was with the Titans,

1453
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 4: there were a few situations where they would it would

1454
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 4: be a call that would send them into a barefront,

1455
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 4: and a barefront is like end tackle knows tackle end

1456
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 4: and so it's like five down linemen, but you're taking

1457
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 4: a Mike linebacker and you're putting at the end spot

1458
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 4: and they put Will on me and it was a

1459
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 4: run play and it's my boy. So I kind of

1460
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 4: wanted to give him a little bit of the give

1461
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 4: a little bit of business, let him know what d

1462
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 4: he was working with a little bit.

1463
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 3: It was a jog through. It was a job.

1464
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 4: So I took him to the sideline.

1465
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:46,839
Speaker 3: He's like, what are we doing.

1466
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 7: That?

1467
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I got to finish through.

1468
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 3: I meant it.

1469
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 4: There's a funny were all the time. We were in

1470
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 4: Arizona one time where we're like we're, you know, banged

1471
01:10:58,320 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 4: up a little bit and we're we laid through in

1472
01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 4: the YouTube and throwing like the twenty twelve Michigan versus

1473
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 4: Nebraska game. It was in in Nebraska, and we were

1474
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 4: watching a whole bunch of like we were just watching

1475
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 4: the game like reminiscent on all this is what this

1476
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 4: call is Like just a couple of guys, a couple

1477
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 4: of has beens, really enjoying looking at their old craft.

1478
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,799
Speaker 4: And there was one player like Michigan was getting dusted

1479
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 4: and I got a hold of Wheel on one play.

1480
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 4: It took him to the sideline. Will threw a punch

1481
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,600
Speaker 4: at me in the game. Now it was there was

1482
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 4: a close.

1483
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 3: And the Taylor Taylor looked at I was crying like

1484
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 3: a little bitch.

1485
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 5: We awesome.

1486
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, our quarterback got hurt, but so we uh we

1487
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: duck on it today and shot yesterday. Talk about your

1488
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: pre in the past. What kind of fire arms experience

1489
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: do you guys have.

1490
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I go on an annual hunting trip with

1491
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 3: the boys. We have a little Texas group that goes

1492
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 3: down in South Texas once a year, but I wouldn't

1493
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 3: consider it a whole lot hunting white tail and nil

1494
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 3: guy and then some hogs. We got in the hog

1495
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 3: hut a couple of times. But that's a lot of fun.

1496
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 3: But growing up I didn't do a whole lot like

1497
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 3: my dad. Unfortunately massacred a white tail in front of

1498
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 3: me when I was a young pup and I never

1499
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 3: went back in the woods after that.

1500
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 1: It turned you off, Yeah, it turned me off.

1501
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,759
Speaker 3: And because like deer season was always like in football season,

1502
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 3: and I just never had that itch to like go hunt,

1503
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 3: and you know he didn't have had that.

1504
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 5: There was like it was like a reload follow up

1505
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 5: shot situation.

1506
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, probably five six shots. It was my dad

1507
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 3: was not happy about it, Like I mean, it wasn't

1508
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 3: you know. He hated it. He hated it. He hated

1509
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 3: it for me, He hated it for everybody but my dad,

1510
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 3: my old man. We didn't have like a tree center on,

1511
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 3: so we just be sitting against a tree and I'm

1512
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 3: like falling asleep at the time. So I'm thinking, like, man,

1513
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 3: I don't really care to hunt a whole lot right now.

1514
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 3: Uh So I just never really got into hunting. But

1515
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 3: like I've been, you know, clay shooting a few times,

1516
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 3: so not a whole lot, but I guess enough to

1517
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 3: work around the barrel a little bit.

1518
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, for me, it was I've been clay shooting probably

1519
01:12:58,200 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 4: a handful of times. My dad used to take me

1520
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 4: a little bit when I was like eleven or twelve,

1521
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 4: but really never been hunting. I've been in two different

1522
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 4: hunting situations. One I was down in Baton Rouge, Louisiana

1523
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 4: with one of my buddies and his grandpa had like

1524
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 4: a tree stand in the backyard and we kind of

1525
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 4: just sat there for two three hours, and I just thought,

1526
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 4: what are we doing out here?

1527
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 1: Man? Is that what you said?

1528
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 2: He saw?

1529
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1530
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 3: So I saw.

1531
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 4: I literally I remember sitting there, I saw a butter

1532
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 4: butterfly and a bunny rabbit. I literally just followed the

1533
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 4: butter butterfly for a while, got buller went down patience. Yeah, yeah,

1534
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 4: maybe I just take out this bunny with this thirty

1535
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 4: odd six real quick.

1536
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 3: But I didn't.

1537
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: I didn't, you didn't know.

1538
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 4: And then uh that was that was it. And then

1539
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, I had a buddy in Nashville,

1540
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 4: Tennessee for Ford Tomlin. He took me his family's got

1541
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 4: a farm and we went turkey hunting. It was like

1542
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 4: the last week of turkey season. Did not see one turkey?

1543
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 4: Hear any Yeah, I heard a couple that sounds like,

1544
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 4: what's that?

1545
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 1: What that sounds like?

1546
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 4: Go ahead, next, what you got for us?

1547
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 1: Anybody that tells a turkey story, you can tell if

1548
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 1: he's a turkey hunter. When he gets to the gobble part,

1549
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: he doesn't do a guy.

1550
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 3: He goes, you got a good turkey, You got a

1551
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 3: good turkey. So it is so I didn't see nothing,

1552
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 3: and so.

1553
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, but so I've shot a gun a couple of times,

1554
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 4: but literally today was the first like organized hunt that

1555
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 4: was successful for me. And it was I told you

1556
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 4: while we were sitting in the blank. I will go back,

1557
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 4: I will I will come back here, I will go

1558
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 4: anywhere and do it again.

1559
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 3: That was awesome.

1560
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 1: You guys were a really quick study shooting. I know

1561
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: you've been done some shooting before, so whatever. You didn't

1562
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: come in being like I know all about this, get

1563
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: out of my way. Yeah, but Cal and I were

1564
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: talking about it, and we were talking about how the

1565
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 1: hunting with you seeing you shoot, well, that was so fun.

1566
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: It was like you spent your whole lifetime getting coached

1567
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:48,440
Speaker 1: and absorbing information.

1568
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 5: And then of trying to apply that information right.

1569
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: Hand eye coordination, situational awareness. Yeah, I don't know, like

1570
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: like you want to be successful, competitiveness drive. Yeah, it

1571
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: makes you realize that, I'll say to you, spend your

1572
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 1: whole life trying to get good at something, and then

1573
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 1: you see someone get like be proficient at some aspect

1574
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: of it really quickly and you sort of wishing that

1575
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 1: they can't figure it out. Well, it just goes to

1576
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 1: show how constructive all these years, these guys can't hit

1577
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: a duck save their lives, And you're like, oh, ship,

1578
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 1: they hit ducks just like all my friends do. Duck

1579
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 1: hunts is they're not Steve.

1580
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 3: Steve, Now you missed a few clays yesterday.

1581
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 4: I would say that the clay shooting part was more

1582
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 4: nerve wracking than the first duck coming out, Yes, because

1583
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 4: it was all of us really meeting for the first

1584
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 4: time and you're like, Jimmy, we're gonna try to get

1585
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 4: a couple and we'll be in a brave boy like

1586
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:51,919
Speaker 4: I'll go first, and he misses it, I'm like, miss everything.

1587
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 6: I think part about duck hunting too, is like you're

1588
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 6: so in the moment and like you just kind of

1589
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 6: black out and your instincts take over. Yes, Like that's

1590
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 6: what happens to me a lot, And it's just like

1591
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 6: the minute you start to think about it is when

1592
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 6: you start to miss.

1593
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I shoot so much better when it's

1594
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: just like a fashion Some point out that a duck

1595
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 1: is about six times bigger in the clay pitch.

1596
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1597
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I shoot so much better when I'm not

1598
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 1: standing there being like okay, I'm gonna say ready, and

1599
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 1: then when I say ready, this is what I'm gonna

1600
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: do and I'm not gonna do that. It's just better

1601
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 1: when you just do it.

1602
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like something just comes in and you're like,

1603
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:26,759
Speaker 6: oh boom.

1604
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: We used to put people through something just excruciating and

1605
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: still do as we did yesterday, which is like in filming,

1606
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: filming mediater episodes, you know, oftimes you'll have someone come

1607
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: in and they flew in with their rifle. So then

1608
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 1: it's like when we gotta go test your rifle. We

1609
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 1: got to check your rifle, make sure it didn't get this,

1610
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,839
Speaker 1: didn't get knocked off of zero. So then here's this person,

1611
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, they just got off a plane. There's like

1612
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 1: eight people staring at him. You put the target out there.

1613
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 5: And you always have someplace to be. That's the most

1614
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 5: fun part. It's always on a schedule where it's like, you.

1615
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: Know, the we gotta get well, ain't gonna watch. It's

1616
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:09,799
Speaker 1: gonna be the only person is gonna be more awkward

1617
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: for if you shoot poorly, is it's gonna feel awkward

1618
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 1: for me. So I'm gonna resent you for that reason.

1619
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: It's gonna look very awkward for you.

1620
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 4: And we started shooting yesterday.

1621
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 3: Just get real quiet.

1622
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 4: Everyone's standing there and it's like you guys are kind

1623
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 4: of pretend you didn't see it.

1624
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 3: You guys are like, yeah, these are like the uh,

1625
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 3: the brand in the outdoor game. And you know, I

1626
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 3: won't speak for you, but I know coming out here,

1627
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 3: I didn't necessarily have my arms all the way around that.

1628
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 3: And then the buzz of us coming out here for

1629
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 3: my buddies are people that knew we were coming. It

1630
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 3: almost put a little bit more. It put more pressure

1631
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 3: on us, or more pressure on me. Like when we

1632
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 3: put out a photo and like everyone's like, oh my god,

1633
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. You're just thinking these guys, yeah, I

1634
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 3: knew they were good. I didn't know. It was like

1635
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 3: the following was like this. So everything we're out there doing,

1636
01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking, like, man, I hope I'm good for

1637
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 3: the media guy.

1638
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: Like I hope I can own my own. Like, hope

1639
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 1: I don't shoot one of these guys.

1640
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 4: You're talking about guys getting dude's being getting shot and

1641
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 4: getting peppered, And I'm thinking, oh my god, yea wild, we're.

1642
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: Gonna sit ya. We could have sent y' out for

1643
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 1: pepper and all right, it's out there, you know, just shoot.

1644
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 1: So what what how did you feel about the duck hunting?

1645
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 1: Give me some of your impressions from duck hunting uh,

1646
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 1: the actual act of duck hunting, right.

1647
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 3: Not just I loved it. I thought it was awesome,

1648
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 3: Like again that annual home we do it kind of

1649
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 3: like when you're out there before the sun, the sun

1650
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 3: comes up, you see the critters coming out, you kind

1651
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:43,680
Speaker 3: of just see like the nature and everything else. You

1652
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 3: kind of like understand, uh, why everybody is so into

1653
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 3: And it's one of those things where I still haven't

1654
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 3: went from zero to one by buying myself a rifle

1655
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 3: or anything like that yet, but it's one of those

1656
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 3: things you leave and you're like, man, I gotta like die,

1657
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,600
Speaker 3: I gotta get it into the sport because I have

1658
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 3: buddies that travel all over the country, like you know,

1659
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 3: all the spots, spots in Arizona, Colorado, Utah, everywhere, and

1660
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 3: it just seems like a lot of fun. So coming

1661
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 3: out here like getting to experience duck hunting like I've

1662
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 3: always heard that duck hunting is like all time and

1663
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 3: so getting to do it at the level we got

1664
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 3: to do it on the grounds, we got to do

1665
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 3: it on it was just like it happening in real

1666
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 3: time and we were knocking them down. It was just

1667
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 3: it was so much fun. And again like getting to

1668
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 3: do with you guys, like being like, Okay, you know

1669
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 3: you want to you want to impress the squad, you

1670
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 3: want to impress the boys.

1671
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: You impressed me.

1672
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that.

1673
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 4: When one wed go down, and we'd all be Yeah,

1674
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 4: it was unique because like when we're talking about the

1675
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,719
Speaker 4: hunt and you're saying it's spoiled guy duck hunting because

1676
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 4: of the blind and how it's set up and the

1677
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 4: way you guys are explaining it. In my mind, I'm

1678
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 4: essentially painting the picture of what it's all going to

1679
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,759
Speaker 4: be like, and then you show up and it's completely different.

1680
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 4: So really, when I first get there, I'm like really

1681
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,759
Speaker 4: just trying to just be aware of all the stuff

1682
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 4: going on. You hand me the the decoys and I

1683
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 4: go set those up over there, and I'm thinking, oh

1684
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 4: my god, I don't this is not like do I

1685
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 4: just pull a string here?

1686
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: Do I put these on?

1687
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 4: I pulled the maxsime, Hey, so how do I thought

1688
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 4: these little.

1689
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 1: Decoy?

1690
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 3: And I do I have to have a confession. I'm

1691
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 3: the one who singled out and pulled out the duck

1692
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 3: and I was like, hey, do I just throw this

1693
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 3: on the water, Like yeah, get off the thing, and

1694
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking, I just step back.

1695
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 2: So it comes over to me and hands me a

1696
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 2: duck with out a weight on it, and I'm.

1697
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 6: Like, sometimes this is sometimes it's like falls off. And

1698
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 6: I look at it and the clips like fully unclipped

1699
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 6: from the weight taking through the loop out and like

1700
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 6: the string with the weight on it. Karen Beener and

1701
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,560
Speaker 6: he asked me, He goes, do I just set this

1702
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 6: out there?

1703
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 2: And I looked at it and I'm like, shoot, there's

1704
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:48,640
Speaker 2: no weight on it.

1705
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 3: He goes back and I didn't say a word. I

1706
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 3: got real quiet on the water. We're gonna go from

1707
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 3: here to here, and I'm like all right, and I found.

1708
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 6: The uh string with the weight on it, and I

1709
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 6: was like, okay.

1710
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 1: I I just didn't want to say yeah.

1711
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 4: The wild thing is it's like you're so focused on

1712
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 4: your dog calve the whole time. You're so fire off

1713
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,600
Speaker 4: the steve. You're just even when we had to do

1714
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 4: the beaver trapping after that was like impromptu. You're just

1715
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 4: a man on a mission, so all right, go do this.

1716
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:19,560
Speaker 4: And then you're trudging through the water and all that,

1717
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,640
Speaker 4: and I have to like assume how to throw it

1718
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 4: out pull Max aside throwing and everything out there.

1719
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 3: He said, the railroad thing like something weapons like, no, no,

1720
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 3: that's not it.

1721
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 4: We had to go put a trap out for Mark

1722
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 4: and I literally it was like kids with their dad

1723
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 4: like me, Will and JP. He's like, all right, we

1724
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 4: pulled this through the cemetery and you're just you're literally

1725
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 4: run jumps over in front of us.

1726
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 3: Like you're just working.

1727
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 4: He goes and jumps of fence and looks back at

1728
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 4: the boys like what the flors was the jump this fence?

1729
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 4: I hop at my kname like, oh my god. He's

1730
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 4: like down the helmet, Hey, do we need to come

1731
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 4: with you? He stayed there for a second.

1732
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 3: I'll be right back.

1733
01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 4: So like then like old fat guy body over the

1734
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 4: beans and we're kind of just watching you just move

1735
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 4: and he's like looking around picking stuff up.

1736
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 1: That's not it.

1737
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 9: We did the truck and he's like yeah, oh dude,

1738
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 9: he's like looking at it, grabbed his.

1739
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 4: Taste like this is a man out here. And we

1740
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 4: get to We end up getting back in the truck

1741
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 4: and going down the hill and uh, Steve's like looking around.

1742
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 3: He's like, God, where is it. I'm an idiot?

1743
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 4: And he starts calling people, I need you to bring X,

1744
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 4: Y and Z the thing we ended up using with

1745
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 4: the beaber, Yeah, the castor lure. And he goes, Taylor,

1746
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 4: you do in the back right corner there's a there's

1747
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 4: a steel blah blah blah blah railroad railroad tie plate.

1748
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, I got you, brother, And I started.

1749
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 3: Looking to him like what the and I just giggling.

1750
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 4: I pull out like there was like a shovel and

1751
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 4: he's like, no, it's flat, and I'm like, we'll get

1752
01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 4: over here.

1753
01:22:58,200 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 3: And that's what makes it so funny.

1754
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 1: Just keep going when you were kids that you crush

1755
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 1: pennies on the railroad tracks and notice how they hold

1756
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 1: them all together.

1757
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 4: No railroad tracks and cave tree.

1758
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 3: Then he's down, he's down in the water and he's like, hey,

1759
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 3: when you guys got a pocket knife? And I was like, oh,

1760
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 3: I left it at home.

1761
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 1: In the hotel.

1762
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 3: So I was like one day and he's like, uh,

1763
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 3: you grab something out of there and cut off like

1764
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 3: cut off the willows or cut off the Wilson. You're

1765
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 3: gonna have tell me.

1766
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 4: What willow will sticking these flyers.

1767
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 3: He goes to reach over and cut out what he

1768
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 3: was saying, because there's just like.

1769
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 4: There's just like a protective fence around these trees that

1770
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:35,879
Speaker 4: Mark is trying.

1771
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 1: To Marks trying to re establish the gentleman that his

1772
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 1: place is trying to get willows re established, willows along

1773
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 1: as riparian areas, which, as I was explaining to you guys,

1774
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 1: just decades and decades of cattle grazing and other stuff

1775
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: eliminated all the willows. So he's trying to get the

1776
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 1: willows going and he fences them in. But every time

1777
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 1: he puts them in there and puts the fence around him,

1778
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: somehow or no, the beavers still get him. He's trying

1779
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: to hold the beavers back long enough to get his

1780
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 1: willows re established.

1781
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 3: And you're on these branches and I end up He's

1782
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 3: like reach over and cut off a couple branches. I'm

1783
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 3: just looking at this fence. I'm like, I can't get

1784
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,679
Speaker 3: over this fence. So I'm thinking maybe he just wants

1785
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 3: me to press up against the fence and cut I'm

1786
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 3: cutting some like dead flowers, like yeah, get poked in

1787
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 3: my damn. And he's like, hey, that's that's that's go

1788
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 3: over the tree in front of the truck and start

1789
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 3: like clipping those and I go over with JP. I'm like, man,

1790
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 3: I don't know what. I don't know what he's talking about.

1791
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:34,560
Speaker 3: I just start cutting these branches. He's like, he's like,

1792
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 3: he's alive or dead? And I'm just thinking, yeah, I

1793
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 3: don't know. He's like, is they're green in them? He

1794
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 3: got He's like, oh no, these are dead. He's like,

1795
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 3: we got to go get some ones that have some

1796
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 3: green and them. Go over to that red tree, go

1797
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 3: over to those red branches and get me some branches

1798
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 3: because he's trying to set this trap. But we were

1799
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 3: all in. We had the full meat eatior experience.

1800
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1801
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 4: But going back to the duck hunt, which is where

1802
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 4: this question originated, it was very cool to see like

1803
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 4: one of the the way your dog was operating. I thought,

1804
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 4: I thought that I get a real kick out of that.

1805
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 4: I don't have a temperament for dogs, but the ones

1806
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 4: that are real good I love.

1807
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 3: Man.

1808
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the first one coming in, you start

1809
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 4: to feel start to feel like nervous and everything, and

1810
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 4: you know steve'son there all right, this one's coming in.

1811
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 3: All right.

1812
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 4: When I say go you guys do it, And I

1813
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 4: think takes a hard right turn and goes get it,

1814
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,640
Speaker 4: and we both get up and pump hit it, and

1815
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,600
Speaker 4: he's like, all right, well that duck is destroyed and

1816
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 4: we're gonna have to We're gonna have to go back

1817
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 4: and forth.

1818
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:26,560
Speaker 3: That was like a to me.

1819
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, that's a good little feeling, you know.

1820
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 4: And then you have to call names. And then when

1821
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 4: you unloaded your gun, there was a moment from me.

1822
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 4: I was like, oh man, we're really shooting well out here, right.

1823
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:38,799
Speaker 5: That's great. Yeah, you were kind of leveling up throughout

1824
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:39,759
Speaker 5: the day, but I think.

1825
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 4: The shot of the day was that duck coming overhead

1826
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 4: and will with the swing swing because yesterday you were

1827
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 4: talking about the clay. If you can get one of

1828
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,679
Speaker 4: those like that and we'll pop that thing up, no problem,

1829
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 4: and took it.

1830
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 1: You know, you're shooting Clayer leaving from your feet, Yeah,

1831
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 1: flying out And I said, be more realistic. If the

1832
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: shooter went out there and then try to hit him

1833
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 1: coming out, let it fly over you and hit it

1834
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 1: behind him.

1835
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

1836
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 4: The one mess up, the biggest mess up today was

1837
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 4: when that teal hit the water, Like, get out there,

1838
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 4: go get him, and so I like pop out trying

1839
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 4: to impress my dad.

1840
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 3: Out here.

1841
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 4: Let's go, I'm gonna show him.

1842
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 3: Get the gun.

1843
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 4: I get him in my sights. He starts taking off.

1844
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is gonna be awesome safety.

1845
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 3: So I just walk back. Or when that teal was

1846
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 3: going by and then I was like, Taylor, get it,

1847
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 3: get it, get it, And it seems like hey, no, no, no,

1848
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 3: I'm a little excited at.

1849
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 1: The fire cal. We were talking about this in the

1850
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 1: blind and I gave an answer, but it wasn't real specific.

1851
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 1: Uh how many hours you're into your dog? Oh, I

1852
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:48,640
Speaker 1: said thousands?

1853
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:56,679
Speaker 5: Probably, Yeah, I mean you're one, it's like two hours

1854
01:26:56,720 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 5: a day for like training training, and then twenty four

1855
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 5: hours a day for obedience training. You know you're I

1856
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 5: mean it's like like I said, like, uh, when we

1857
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:10,839
Speaker 5: were plucking birds and having her place on my jacket,

1858
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 5: like you are always always training, and so like when

1859
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 5: that when you get that brand new little puppy, you

1860
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 5: can almost essentially at like seven weeks, imprint things that

1861
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 5: are going to be very beneficial to you for the

1862
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 5: rest of that dog's life or things that you will

1863
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 5: absolutely for the rest of your life. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1864
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:37,600
Speaker 5: So it's yeah, it's not.

1865
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 6: I mean yeah, I mean great training, place, training, healing.

1866
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 5: I mean at all those good citizens.

1867
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 6: At the end of the day, you're like you're training,

1868
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 6: but you're also like keeping that dog safe too, because

1869
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:56,719
Speaker 6: like say, if we were like a bunch of trucks

1870
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,680
Speaker 6: driving around in the field or whatever, you tell your

1871
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 6: dog place and that dog doesn't move, of like your

1872
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 6: dog's gonna be safe.

1873
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:03,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and there's like a couple of run around

1874
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:04,679
Speaker 1: trying to bite truck tires.

1875
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 6: It's good ran over for sure.

1876
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 5: Think of how many like public hunting spots that are

1877
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 5: like unfortunately, like right next to the highway, right and

1878
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:17,719
Speaker 5: dog goes and tries to chase a rooster, a crippled

1879
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 5: duck or whatever, and yeah, it's just yeah, there's so

1880
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 5: many ways for things to go bad, and they're the

1881
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 5: hunting bond is is amazing because they put all of

1882
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 5: their trust in you, and when you watch them get hurt,

1883
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 5: sometimes they come back to you and they're like you said, go,

1884
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 5: I went, what happened? You know, And it's like that

1885
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 5: all you know all the time. So yeah, but lots

1886
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 5: of lots of time in the dog.

1887
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 1: When we got our dog, I got it to where

1888
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 1: I could say get over here and it would do that,

1889
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 1: and then where I could say get out of here,

1890
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:52,719
Speaker 1: it would do that. And I'm like, this dog is trained.

1891
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 3: That's great and go.

1892
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 1: Largely largely of intonation here She's.

1893
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 3: Now That relationship is awesome. And I said to snort

1894
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 3: is famous. Like my buddy texted like, hey, how cow's

1895
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 3: dog do ask me about?

1896
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 1: Did you tell me about the story on the dog?

1897
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,799
Speaker 3: I did see the was missing a little bit of fur, Yeah, exactly,

1898
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 3: the bald eer.

1899
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a super long story, but yeah, she

1900
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 5: got bit by a snake and almost died. But the

1901
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 5: result is I got a dog with balder, which is yeah.

1902
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 1: I've been talking lately way three legged dogs. There's so

1903
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 1: many three legged dogs around these days and how much

1904
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:43,600
Speaker 1: attention they get and got me thinking like if you

1905
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 1: had a one eared dog, it would get a lot

1906
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:45,799
Speaker 1: of attention.

1907
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 5: You know, people would want to come up and pet

1908
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 5: the way. It's kind of like a patch missing, you know.

1909
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,639
Speaker 5: So I think that most people are like, something's wrong

1910
01:29:55,640 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 5: with that dog, like dog's got cancer, dogs got something,

1911
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,880
Speaker 5: so nobody says anything about it, which is pretty funny.

1912
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 5: It takes a while to like warm up and be like, so,

1913
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 5: what's the deal with that?

1914
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,639
Speaker 1: Ear, I'm so sorry about your laws?

1915
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 5: Maybe yeah, but yeah, we got to dole out compliments

1916
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 5: to you guys. So, like Steven said, situational awareness, I

1917
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 5: mean just so just relaxing to be around people who

1918
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 5: are in that first time position but can decipher for themselves, like, oh,

1919
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 5: this is what these guys with more knowledge in this

1920
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 5: situation are picking up on. So you guys are looking

1921
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 5: where we're looking. You know, we didn't spend a whole

1922
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:44,160
Speaker 5: lot of time talking about the hands of the clock

1923
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 5: right when we're like birds at twelve o'clock, birds at

1924
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:47,600
Speaker 5: two o'clock.

1925
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the movement of your hands.

1926
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did. I was like, hey, there's one over there.

1927
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, look your eyes.

1928
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,719
Speaker 3: Damn giant.

1929
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 5: Why don't you wave about it?

1930
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 9: Hey?

1931
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 4: But you know, it's crazy, as we were hiding from

1932
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 4: those ducks the whole time. As soon as we got

1933
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 4: out of the blind, like fifty of them, we're just

1934
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 4: kind of ripping around us. We should have just hung

1935
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 4: out on top.

1936
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes that happens, like all that, like keep quiet.

1937
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 5: But yeah, the the the camaraderie aspect, he has obviously

1938
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 5: up down right, so you know that things are just

1939
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 5: better better when people are happy. And so you guys

1940
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 5: joke around, but then the serious things you immediately click

1941
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 5: in and turn it on and we're like, yeah, gun safety,

1942
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 5: we're serious about that. Oh, somebody's trying to uh improve

1943
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:49,679
Speaker 5: what we're doing a little bit. Oh okay, be focused,

1944
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 5: be serious and then, like we already covered, you immediately

1945
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 5: apply it or try to apply it right. Which there's

1946
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 5: a lot of uh teaching of fishing hunting stuff too,

1947
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 5: where it's like, yeah, I have certain people that have

1948
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 5: been around a lot, you know, it's like why I

1949
01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 5: need to just quit talking because this person does not

1950
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:15,639
Speaker 5: apply it, like they need to fall in their face

1951
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 5: over and over again and then then which is how

1952
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 5: I really learned a lot of things too. But you

1953
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 5: guys are not not those folks.

1954
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. You Like I say

1955
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 1: to my boy, he's like, I'm gonna go get that duck,

1956
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 1: Like you're not gonna get that duck. Not gonna go

1957
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 1: get that duck. You I can get that duck now,

1958
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go go Okay, go get the duck. In

1959
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 1: a while later, like didn't get the dock.

1960
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 3: I didn't get the duck.

1961
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 5: Did you see all the ducks? I scared away by

1962
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 5: walking around and all the things. You're like, yep, I did, okay,

1963
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 5: now yeah, and then uh appreciators the number Like, man,

1964
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 5: it is such a bummer to have any sort of

1965
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 5: a day, any sort of an experience, and at the

1966
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 5: end of the day, you're like, I just don't know

1967
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 5: if these people took home what they were supposed to

1968
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:05,640
Speaker 5: take home, right, but you.

1969
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 1: Cat wasted all his nice emotion on him.

1970
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, exactly. I got to bottle all that ship

1971
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 5: back up.

1972
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:14,639
Speaker 1: Is he left it land in the blind?

1973
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1974
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 5: But yeah, being around people who appreciate, like oh, the place,

1975
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 5: the instruction, the just you know, the time and effort stuff,

1976
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 5: the basic stuff. And you guys are appreciators. So thank

1977
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 5: you very very much for that, because that's that's a

1978
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 5: big deal.

1979
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, this has been incredible And I felt the last thing.

1980
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure you felt this way too, Like

1981
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 3: you're you don't want to be like standing around too much,

1982
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 3: Like the last thing you want is to be like

1983
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 3: a liability or to leaving people like, oh they kind

1984
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 3: of they kind of sucked.

1985
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if you noticed our host this morning.

1986
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 1: Let's not talk about who he said it about, but

1987
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:52,720
Speaker 1: our host this morning said, of a couple of individuals,

1988
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 1: neither of them is someone you'd want to be in

1989
01:33:57,160 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 1: a duck blind with. But you see what he's getting that. Yeah, yeah,

1990
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 1: don't want me to duk line. That's like a thing

1991
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 1: you guys can start saying that now.

1992
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, well you know you're like getting your hands around

1993
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 5: the meat eater thing. Right. Well, Krin does a phenomenal job.

1994
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 5: And despite despite the phenomenal job that Krin does, I

1995
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 5: don't read all of her emails, even when they're sent

1996
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 5: directly to me.

1997
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 1: Uh.

1998
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 5: And I was like, uh, football, guys, I didn't know

1999
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 5: if you played football. I don't know if you just

2000
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:37,200
Speaker 5: talk about football.

2001
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 1: Was like, Ship, I played football, and uh yeah.

2002
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 3: So.

2003
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 5: I was like the runt of the litter and I

2004
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,640
Speaker 5: played offensive tackle. So I was like, I was like,

2005
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 5: you know, Ship, that's great. So it's a big soft

2006
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 5: spot for the old line, especially tackles. And then uh,

2007
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 5: my family, my dad went to law school in d C.

2008
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 5: So I was there during like the eighty six U

2009
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 5: super yeah right, and so and we were like lifelong

2010
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 5: Redskins fans.

2011
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 3: And so Doug Williams was the QB and I can

2012
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 3: sing you the.

2013
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 5: Fight song to this day. Well I'm not gonna do

2014
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:27,560
Speaker 5: it right, No, hell to the Redskin heal victory.

2015
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 1: Oh, I got it.

2016
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody knows that one. You didn't do that big surprise,

2017
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 5: But I mean that's great.

2018
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 1: What I didn't do that was poor hostings. I didn't

2019
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:37,480
Speaker 1: I didn't do I didn't offer up a good synopsis

2020
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 1: of busting with the boys. Do you mind up offering

2021
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:42,599
Speaker 1: up a you know, if someone says, you know, what's

2022
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 1: your show about?

2023
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:46,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess in a nutshell, it's like

2024
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 3: we have a platform where everything we do we want

2025
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 3: to bring the locker room to life. So if you

2026
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 3: guys were to come on the bus, which would be

2027
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 3: awesome one day, it's just how do you, you know,

2028
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 3: have the camaraderie, have the vibes of like getting to

2029
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:00,080
Speaker 3: know you your story, like bringing that locker room the

2030
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 3: life that we kind of grew up in, because the

2031
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 3: locker room is such a melting pot where jokes and

2032
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 3: like all the stuff that you wish everybody got to

2033
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 3: experience and kind of, you know, we had the privilege

2034
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 3: of playing in the NFL and playing at the level

2035
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 3: we got to to where you know, we're able to

2036
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 3: have kind of these raw conversations and have fun with

2037
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:19,720
Speaker 3: all of our guests, uh, to where it is like

2038
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 3: we the goal of bringing the locker room to life

2039
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 3: is it is it sweaty and steamy. It has been

2040
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:27,560
Speaker 3: used to be and sometimes it still does. Just like

2041
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 3: you know, your back and.

2042
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:31,679
Speaker 1: Towels laying everywhere on your.

2043
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 4: I told you about before. When we first started, we

2044
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 4: were in the back of an RV park. Yeah, feeling

2045
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 4: stealing heat in like ninety degree weather right next to

2046
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:39,799
Speaker 4: the train tracks.

2047
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:41,679
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2048
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 5: Plate, Yeah, that.

2049
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 3: First year we were we were it was because the

2050
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 3: bus doesn't run. It just sat in the gravel. It

2051
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:50,920
Speaker 3: was just in a gravel parking lot. And we would

2052
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:52,759
Speaker 3: have to tarp it up to where the heat wouldn't

2053
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 3: get in and we're you know, July dying, and then

2054
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 3: we'd have to power it with uh you know, if

2055
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 3: we got to plug into the r V the r

2056
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 3: V park or just running it off a generator or two.

2057
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:05,720
Speaker 3: And that's how we kind of, you know, started it. Yeah,

2058
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 3: it's kind of how it got going. Then we got

2059
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 3: in a little shed. Now we're in a little bit

2060
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 3: better warehouse. I know, the working conditions can be better

2061
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 3: for the team.

2062
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:15,639
Speaker 4: Like you go, you walk into place like this, you're like, man,

2063
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 4: we really are screwing our should Yeah.

2064
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:25,000
Speaker 1: And then it's it's obviously available anywhere people want to

2065
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 1: go get it.

2066
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:29,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, Spotify, Apple, downcast, YouTube, whatever you want.

2067
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:30,800
Speaker 3: That's how you can find bust with.

2068
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 1: And how if people want to if people want to

2069
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 1: have a laugh looking at you guys stuff. And you're

2070
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 1: real active on social media.

2071
01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, very active on social media.

2072
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 4: We posted three times just be on the show. Yeah,

2073
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 4: we touch my phone once. That's how active we are.

2074
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:43,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2075
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:46,680
Speaker 3: But yeah at Busting WTB.

2076
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 1: Not individual pages.

2077
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 3: You like to keep it communal at Underscore, will compt

2078
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:53,120
Speaker 3: if you want to throw me a follow.

2079
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 4: Tail one seventy seven both on Twitter and it's.

2080
01:37:56,600 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 1: Hit me with the Boston one at Busting WTB god

2081
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:02,880
Speaker 1: b U S S I N for other listeners out.

2082
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 3: There, w t B.

2083
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 4: Downloading Instagram right now, He's.

2084
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 3: Like, what's that website you're talking about?

2085
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 4: What's going on here?

2086
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 3: Man?

2087
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on the show, and I appreciate uh,

2088
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 1: you guys going and doing the duck hunt with us.

2089
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 4: Man, it was so much fun, so much fun. So

2090
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 4: if you guys want to do it again, we are available.

2091
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:27,280
Speaker 6: We will.

2092
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, seriously, thank you guys. This was this was a blast.

2093
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 1: No, you were a lot you guys, a lot of

2094
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 1: fun to hang out with. And I appreciate your uh

2095
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 1: uh good good guys to laugh with.

2096
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, goodvies. Four point five. Take that with you.

2097
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 1: I will take that with you.

2098
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 3: Four point five.

2099
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 5: The solid attempt at a beard, Yeah, it.

2100
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:48,559
Speaker 3: Was an attempt. I wouldn't say it's anything I ever

2101
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 3: need to go back to great a mustache Yeah. Yeah.

2102
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 3: By the way, you have a very strong mustache.

2103
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 5: Myself, I can't grow beard, so this is what I got.

2104
01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2105
01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 4: Ye, all all have is a mustache. It's all looks

2106
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:02,639
Speaker 4: like Pubi Carroll honestly.

2107
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 5: Yeah. I grew an entire guiding season. This is back

2108
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 5: when I was living in Missoula entire fall guiding season.

2109
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 5: I decided, I was like, I'm going to force this

2110
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 5: and I did not shave the entire time. And I

2111
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:21,880
Speaker 5: got back to town and went to like my favorite bar,

2112
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 5: bartenders right and uh like Charlie b situation, like all

2113
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 5: female bartenders, and everyone was like, just what are you doing?

2114
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 1: Oh, speaking of pubes. Uh, I had to go do

2115
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:40,880
Speaker 1: this thing I was telling you guys, remember telling you

2116
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 1: this or not? Like I had this like sort of

2117
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 1: weird pain moving around my groinal region.

2118
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 4: Oh, we've talked about it.

2119
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 3: It was like over my legs, swollen testicles.

2120
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 1: You had the well, no, it wasn't, though you had

2121
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:54,439
Speaker 1: that rash. I don't know what be like in the

2122
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:56,479
Speaker 1: crease of my It's just moving around. And I know,

2123
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 1: and I'm real susceptible to stuff too, Like if you

2124
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 1: tell me that, if you also said you had elbow cancer,

2125
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:06,439
Speaker 1: I swear my elbowed hurt and Seth had some kind

2126
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:09,000
Speaker 1: of hernia deal going on, and but that wasn't it.

2127
01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:11,760
Speaker 1: And and so I had this wandering pain and then

2128
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 1: your mind starts running away with you, and I'm always uh.

2129
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 1: So I was like, man, maybe maybe I got to

2130
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 1: hern you, maybe I got testicular cancer. So I go

2131
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 1: down and it's like, legit hurts, but they've ruled out

2132
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:25,320
Speaker 1: all the bad stuff. But uh, when you go to

2133
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 1: get this done, this is the most It's not humiliating

2134
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 1: beause everybody down there is cool.

2135
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 3: But you got it.

2136
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 1: They like you lay down, okay, and they come in

2137
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:34,240
Speaker 1: and they you say, you take your pants off. They

2138
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 1: come in and say, like, lay your penis up on

2139
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:37,800
Speaker 1: your stomach, and then.

2140
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:41,840
Speaker 3: That's so funny.

2141
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 4: I don't.

2142
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:47,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't worry.

2143
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 3: I'll hold it here the entire time.

2144
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 1: And then you put like a little towel over and

2145
01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:59,600
Speaker 1: then they lay the boys like up on the platter like.

2146
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 3: Between and then they're like digging in there.

2147
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:04,440
Speaker 1: It's so compromising.

2148
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:07,439
Speaker 3: I had a sport, heard you, I had sarved. Yeah.

2149
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 1: The first that you think that gel gel, you tell

2150
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 1: like anything going through your head about how like the

2151
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:17,719
Speaker 1: woman doesn't care.

2152
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 4: Tell me for a second. When that gel hit your mind,

2153
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:23,640
Speaker 4: you're like, I come down here.

2154
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 1: What's so funny as you can tell? Yeah, just the

2155
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 1: fact she's like this, I do this for a living. Yeah,

2156
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:33,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate this is probably strange for you, but I

2157
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:39,080
Speaker 1: don't care. There's nothing I could see. There's nothing I

2158
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:41,080
Speaker 1: could not see that I care about.

2159
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:44,680
Speaker 3: That's funny, that's awesome. Good for you on that.

2160
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm fine. I still know why I have a little

2161
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 1: phantom wandering pain. But maybe, like I don't know, strang

2162
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:54,160
Speaker 1: a little strange guys.

2163
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 5: So what is the next hunt? You guys gonna uh

2164
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 5: started scheming and and find another one here after this

2165
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 5: duck adventure.

2166
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 3: Part of me wants to hit some big game.

2167
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:08,759
Speaker 1: I think.

2168
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:14,800
Speaker 4: Something about camping. I want to sit there and be like,

2169
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:16,920
Speaker 4: it's been four days. We've been on the trail for

2170
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 4: four days.

2171
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:20,799
Speaker 5: We're un We can make you eat those words.

2172
01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:22,720
Speaker 3: You know, there's no question and.

2173
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 4: I'm I'm not what you would call a survivor. You're

2174
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:29,600
Speaker 4: not gonna put me in the wild to be like,

2175
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 4: we'll see in a week. I will be dead in

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Speaker 4: a week, picked apart, so I will definitely need you

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Speaker 4: if that was ever gonna be the case. Yeah, just

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Speaker 4: press the button, right.

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Speaker 3: I think an l kunk would be really.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's to hunt them milk.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know a lot of them these days,

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Speaker 5: to see I see.

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Speaker 3: I think Bear would be sweet.

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Speaker 4: In the Chester's office yesterday, he's got that. He's talking

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Speaker 4: me about the story of how he got it. I

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Speaker 4: was like, man, every story just an apex predator out there,

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Speaker 4: me and him.

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Speaker 5: It's roast beef of the woods man. That's Bears.

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Speaker 4: Yea, yeah, what are you saying about ducks?

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Speaker 1: The prime rim of the Sky, the woods, Prime the Sky,

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Speaker 1: It's all good everything guys, thanks for coming on the

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Speaker 1: show Man.

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. With the boys to subscribe. Listen

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Speaker 1: good shooting over and out. All right, let's do that check.

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Speaker 4: Cloes.

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Speaker 5: What were you doing there with the album?

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Speaker 1: They do something like this, You're just man. Was close.

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Speaker 6: God by God, God.

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Speaker 5: God by did Monday.

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Speaker 2: To them?

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Speaker 5: But my solve mo my so last percent of eys

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Speaker 5: Mys mourtain fast eyes like birth Day Past and I

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Speaker 5: fin my Day pasta Hi fin my.

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Speaker 2: Gay butter.

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Speaker 1: Pleasure conca

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Speaker 5: God by God Monday