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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. West Shuler and Matt Williamson with you here

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Speaker 2: on a Friday where we have got a big one

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Speaker 2: on deck, a big weekend on deck across the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: sports Pittsburgh sports landscape scene, I guess is what I'm

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Speaker 2: looking for. There, A couple of big games at Akroshur Stadium,

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Speaker 2: a backyard basketbawl that went my way quite comfortably last night.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's it real quick off the top, We'll

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Speaker 2: get it out of the way. I mean, Paul Skeens

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Speaker 2: won a cy Young this week College game day is

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Speaker 2: in town. Yeah yeah, but Matt here in Western Pennsyville,

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Speaker 2: I actually think they're like playing right now because it's

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Speaker 2: in Sweden. So yeah, with the time change, I actually

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Speaker 2: think that they're playing.

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Speaker 3: Lots of stuff literally right.

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Speaker 2: At this second, all sorts of stuff. Pittsburgh maybe the

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Speaker 2: epicenter of the American sports world. This weekend, of course,

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Speaker 2: game Day in town and a big one at Atrisure

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Speaker 2: on Saturday. But in this town, in this country doing

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Speaker 2: my best, Jack Nicholson. Nothing is bigger than the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 2: nothing is bigger than the National Football League, and Matt,

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Speaker 2: this is a big one for the Steelers on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I know we've been saying that for the last three weeks.

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Speaker 2: Packers game felt huge, Colts game felt huge. Chargers game

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Speaker 2: felt huge. But in the scope of where you're at

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Speaker 2: right now, with kind of a fork in the road,

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Speaker 2: season can go one of two ways with what this

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Speaker 2: means for the divisional and the af SEE playoff Outlook,

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Speaker 2: this is a massive one. I mean not only for

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Speaker 2: the Steelers, but for the Bengals on Sundays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be a loser leave time match for

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Speaker 3: the for the Bengals, Yeah, I mean not for the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: So yes, some of it's just math, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: just standings. This is a huge game, it's the visual game.

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Speaker 3: We're getting deep into November. These teams aren't guaranteed playoff spots.

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Speaker 3: The AFC is kind of in flux right now. So yes,

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Speaker 3: I mean, just that is absolutely true. But I also

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Speaker 3: think more than anything that you know that isn't just

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Speaker 3: fact is Steeers offense has to get back on track.

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Speaker 3: This is the easiest defense in the league to do

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Speaker 3: that against. And I think next week we got the

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Speaker 3: Bears next week, they're also kind of at the bottom

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Speaker 3: the list offensively, So you.

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Speaker 2: Gonna can score some point, You're gonna have to score

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Speaker 2: some points.

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Speaker 3: Similarly, we're gonna say a lot of the same things

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Speaker 3: next week. You know, you gotta You're gonna need the

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Speaker 3: offense to come up big, not just control the football

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Speaker 3: and don't make mistakes. I mean, you're gonnaed to put

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Speaker 3: up points in these next two weeks and show a

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Speaker 3: lot more signs of life than he did against Chargers

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Speaker 3: and really of late.

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Speaker 2: You and I talked about this a little bit yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and you know I do on Fridays, I do a

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Speaker 2: quick hitter segment with Chad Tyson on DVE. Yeah, just

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Speaker 2: like a quick three or four minute He'll rattle off

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Speaker 2: a bunch of questions for me three minutes, four minutes,

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Speaker 2: a little hit on DVE. And one of the things

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Speaker 2: he asked me was, what's your kind of temperature gauge?

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Speaker 2: What's your concern level on the offense and on Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And.

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Speaker 2: I said, right now, I'm concerned, but I'm not panicked,

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Speaker 2: I said, but ask me at four point thirty on

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Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon, and I think it's going to be okay. Hey,

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Speaker 2: they got back on track, they took advantage of a

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Speaker 2: bad defense. They could still be the offensive unit that

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Speaker 2: we thought they were maybe back in September and October,

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Speaker 2: or it's going to be this is you know. Now

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Speaker 2: you can count kind of the amount of straight underwhelming performances,

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Speaker 2: and it was against a bad defense, right, and here

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Speaker 2: comes at the toughest portion of the schedule, maybe not

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Speaker 2: necessarily Chicago, but you've got Buffalo and Baltimore twice and

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Speaker 3: And hopefully playoff matchups after that, you know.

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Speaker 2: Right, this is another one of those you know, Matt,

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Speaker 2: I can't remember what game it might have been the

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Speaker 2: first time that the Steelers played the Bengals that I

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Speaker 2: said this to you, But this is almost a game

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Speaker 2: where if you and I were sports reporters, if we

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Speaker 2: did what the Dales of the world did, and the

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Speaker 2: Jerry you know, the Jerry Doulax and ye actually wrote

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Speaker 2: Chris Halleck and Chris Damski actually wrote articles and covered

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Speaker 2: the game and you know things covered in a reporter standpoint. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: on Sunday. Right up, two different stories. The narrative, if

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Speaker 2: the Steelers win, the season's back on track, You're still

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Speaker 2: in first place, you got plenty to play for. Or

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Speaker 2: the narrative if the Steelers lose, it's coming unraveled again.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now they got one foot in the grave. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is a real names.

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Speaker 3: We know how that'll go round.

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Speaker 2: You already know what the message is going to be,

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Speaker 2: win or lose, positive or negative. What that narrative is

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Speaker 2: going to look like around four thirty on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And if they only put up thirteen points against

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Speaker 3: this defense and struggle to get first downs again and

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Speaker 2: No turnovers, only one or two sacks like they had

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Speaker 2: last time against the Bengals. You lose the turnover margin

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Or Chase and Higgins blow up again and you

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Speaker 3: have no answers for Flacco's passing game and you don't

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Speaker 3: a decent day, it's like, oh boy, we got there.

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Speaker 3: There's big problems now. However, anyone reacts on Monday, we'll

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Speaker 3: probably be far too much. But that's what we do,

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Speaker 3: and that's what this league is all about, right.

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Speaker 2: And you know what? This is another thing I talked

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Speaker 2: about with our buddy Chad Tyson on DVE. He kind

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Speaker 2: of asked me something of like, how do you stop

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase from wrecking this game? And I said, you

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Speaker 2: stop Chase Brown. Yeah, like you stop the run game.

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Speaker 2: That's you make them one dimensional, you make them predictable,

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Speaker 2: You make them have to go to Chase and Higgins

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Speaker 2: and have no other options, no other run game to

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Speaker 2: lean on. This is another one of those we can

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Speaker 2: say the same thing every week, but the battle in

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Speaker 2: the trenches feels especially important Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no question, And I'd love to see the

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Speaker 3: Steelers have a lot of success on the ground. I

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Speaker 3: often bring up my Thursday show on when we do

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Speaker 3: Fridays and Meryl Hodge had a great point, as he

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Speaker 3: often does. Everything's bad about this defense. I mean it

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Speaker 3: really is. I mean, but the snatty but their defense

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Speaker 3: I mean like and it makes all sense of.

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Speaker 2: World now they've traded a veteran linebackers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, these young linebackers that really don't read

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Speaker 3: things well. Safeties are really poor tacklers. The guys that

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Speaker 3: guys are particularly bad. But they're really there's no nothing

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Speaker 3: on defense you have to avoid when the Steelers have

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Speaker 3: the ball and where I'm saying this is. And also,

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Speaker 3: not only do I want to see the offense get

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Speaker 3: kind of rule the day and have thirty four minutes

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Speaker 3: of time in possession. Yeah, and you know you gotta

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Speaker 3: get back to churning out physical first downs.

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Speaker 2: You know you're asking me, just on a box score,

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Speaker 2: on a recap sheet, what are going to be the

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Speaker 2: biggest indicators for a Steelers victory? H I mean turn

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Speaker 2: like turnover margins always towards course. Yeah, there's some audience everywhere,

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Speaker 2: but right now, I just love to know what the best.

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Speaker 2: I would love to be able to be a genie

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Speaker 2: and look into the future. There was a TV show

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Speaker 2: back in the day. I forget what it was called, Uh,

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow's edition or something like that. There's a popular TV

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Speaker 2: show back in the day where the main actor he

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Speaker 2: got Tomorrow's newspaper. He got the newspaper a day ahead

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Speaker 2: of time, Okay, so he would like go around and

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Speaker 2: save people's lives and stop tragedies from happening.

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Speaker 3: I forget what the name of it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's Tomorrow's Edition was the name of the show.

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Speaker 2: My mom loved it when I was a kid. If

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Speaker 2: I could get tomorrow, if I could get Monday's edition

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Speaker 2: of the newspaper, I would go right to what's the

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Speaker 2: yards per carry for the Bengals offense?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What's the yards per carry for the Steelers? For the

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Speaker 2: Steelers offense?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: And that time of possession? Yes, Like if you could,

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Speaker 2: if I could just look at the the game recap

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Speaker 2: on a sheet of paper on Monday.

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Speaker 3: Morning, and the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Have thirty three or thirty four minutes time of possession,

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Speaker 2: I really like their chances to win.

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Speaker 3: If Chase Brown is think having a fun show on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Chase Brown's yards per carry is three point one, three

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Speaker 2: point two, three point three. I love the Steelers chance

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Speaker 2: to win. I agree, it's as quite often is the

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Speaker 2: case when you're playing a division foe, particularly the second

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Speaker 2: time around. There's not a lot of secrets. There's not

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Speaker 2: a lot of smoking mirrors in this one.

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Speaker 3: No, I've been saying this all week. It's a weird

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Speaker 3: game to preview because you just played them. Yes, there

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Speaker 3: are some changes, especially to the Steelers side of things.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Steelers secondary is all new, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: But you've got enough of Flacco to realize he's gonna

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Speaker 3: turned into a pumpkin, you know, like they would come

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Speaker 3: off the Green Bay game where he was new and

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Speaker 3: he started slow and then he got hot, and it's like, eh,

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Speaker 3: he's got hot for two quarters. He's done orry by

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Speaker 3: that guy. I mean, that's the Browns version. Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: Well that ain't true. But the other thing is, I'm

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Speaker 3: for many reasons, I'm glad we are not Bengals employees

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Speaker 3: and as opposed.

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Speaker 2: To Steelers employed for many reasons, For.

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Speaker 3: Many many reasons, but one of which is every one

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Speaker 3: of their games is the same, no matter what. It's

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Speaker 3: a bazillion points score race, and they usually come up short.

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Speaker 2: It comes down to the ball last. Yeah, and they

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Speaker 2: don't have the ball last.

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Speaker 3: And they usually don't and they lose right or they

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Speaker 3: find a way to give up the ball last, you know,

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Speaker 3: even when they think you have it won. Like their

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Speaker 3: game against the Bears was bonkers. That was the last

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Speaker 3: one they played. It's a hard one to lose. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're awful on defense, they're extremely dangerous on offense.

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Speaker 3: And that's how it goes every week.

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Speaker 2: Cut and dry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, black and White game is not going to be

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Speaker 3: thirteen to ten.

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Speaker 2: No, it is not. No, it is not. And hey,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess crazier things have happened. We could

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Speaker 2: come in here on Monday and wrong, but that would

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Speaker 2: shock me.

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Speaker 3: It would be so out of character for the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Impartase very much.

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Speaker 2: So this feels like almost a race to thirty.

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Speaker 3: At at minimum.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's take a break here. We will talk

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here on a Friday afternoon, getting

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Speaker 2: you ready for Steelers Bengals Sunday one o'clock at Akroscher Stadium,

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Speaker 2: another AFC North clash, the second this year, with Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: joining us now to preview. It is the Queen of

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Speaker 2: the sidelines, Missy Matthews, kind enough as always on a Friday,

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Speaker 2: to take some time here, Missy, thank you for doing so.

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Speaker 2: And you know, kind of sticking with that, these divisional

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Speaker 2: AFC North games are always intense, they're always physical. There's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think I think so.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 5: I guess the second part of that answer the when

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Speaker 5: for a round two, right, And I think especially the

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Speaker 4: To call it. And AFC norths just always means more.

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Speaker 5: It's why everyone says, you know, throw the records out

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Speaker 3: So Missy, we were kind of talking in the first

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I one hundred percent agree, And I think even

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Speaker 4: Really well, you still have to say, well, we played

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Speaker 5: I feel good about the fact that it's a nice one.

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Speaker 5: And they know what this means because they know what

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Speaker 5: You know, the Bagels don't win this one, that kind

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Speaker 4: Where maybe Joe Burrow is not rushing back to join,

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Speaker 4: But for the Steelers, knowing that you still have two

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Speaker 2: No, it certainly is. Missy. You know, lost three of

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Speaker 2: It's also as well too, you've kind of got an

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Speaker 2: Like Missy. It is is to me, feels like one

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Speaker 2: It's almost, in a way, kind of like a elimination

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean I think too, you know, I

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Speaker 3: So we all know Jamar Chase is a special, phenomenal player.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean, I just think he's that guy. He

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Speaker 4: I do think the configuration of the defense with Jalen

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Speaker 3: I think that's a great comparison you made there too,

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Speaker 4: Yeah and again like he told every type of defensive

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Speaker 2: Missy Matthews with us here on the drive, getting us ready,

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Speaker 2: And then obviously what happened this past Sunday in La

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Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like if there wasn't frustration, we'd

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Speaker 4: It just felt like nothing could go right in the

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Speaker 3: So at this point, everybody knows, and we've talked to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is certainly certainly a big part of I think. Uh.

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Speaker 2: and once at the very end of the game, and

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Speaker 2: the explosive play differential was way till night close in

436
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Speaker 2: favor of the Bengals. You know, it's one thing for

437
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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase to, you know, to stack up the six

438
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Speaker 2: seven eight yard receptions, but they've got to limit the

439
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Speaker 2: explosives and they've got to do a better job of

440
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Speaker 2: making life tough on Joe Flacco than they did the

441
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Speaker 2: first time they got to hit him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I agree, And I'm hoping that now that

443
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Speaker 4: you have what four games of film, a larger sample size,

444
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 4: maybe they're seeing things. Obviously he's smart, like Aaron Rodgerson

445
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Speaker 4: getting the ball out quick, but I still think that

446
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Speaker 4: there is something the defense can certainly do to make

447
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Speaker 4: him have to make either poor decisions or quicker decisions

448
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Speaker 4: that turn into poor decisions, because you can't have the

449
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Speaker 4: same thing that we sawt Thursday night. But you know,

450
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Speaker 4: I also go back to like the DJ Turner interception

451
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Speaker 4: that he kind of DK caught it, but DJ Turner

452
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Speaker 4: took it like there was just weird, fluky things. And

453
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Speaker 4: it's kind of at the point where you can't have

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Speaker 4: one of those happen because then it's like the snowball effect.

455
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Speaker 4: So you almost need like a clean game in a

456
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Speaker 4: way for everybody to kind of write the ship is

457
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Speaker 4: the only way I keep thinking about it. It just

458
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Speaker 4: feels like you have to get that taste out of

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Speaker 4: your mouth, noing what your schedule is moving forward. You

460
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Speaker 4: can go to Chicago next week, like it's not going

461
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Speaker 4: to get any easier. So I feel like you really

462
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Speaker 4: need this one to be one of those almost like

463
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Speaker 4: morale boosting wins, like, Okay, we got our mojo back,

464
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Speaker 4: We're ready to.

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Speaker 2: Go completely agree, Missy, as our as our dear brother

466
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Speaker 2: tunch Jokin would have said, this is a pistachio type game.

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Speaker 2: Have you not heard this one?

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Speaker 4: Now?

469
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Speaker 2: So Tounch used to have this thing. He called it

470
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Speaker 2: the pistachio theory. He said, sometimes when you're cracking pistachios,

471
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Speaker 2: you get a bad one the end funky taste in

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Speaker 2: your mouth. The only way to get that taste out

473
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Speaker 2: of your mouth is by cracking a good pistachio. Yep,

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Speaker 2: And so the only we all do. Let's crack it.

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Speaker 2: Let's crack some Bengal skulls and crack some pistachios and

476
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Speaker 2: uh and get that bad taste out of our mouths.

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Speaker 2: Heading into like you said, Missy, what's going to be

478
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Speaker 2: a a heck of a home stretch of the season

479
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Speaker 2: here as we get closer and closer to the holidays.

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Speaker 2: The Great Missy Matthews make sure you're listening to her

481
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Speaker 2: on the broadcast on Sunday, of course, with Rob King

482
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Speaker 2: and Max Starks. She'll be set in the scene and

483
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Speaker 2: in painting the view from the sidelines as she does.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 2: Well, Missy, thank you for the time, take care and

486
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Speaker 2: we'll talk to you on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: All right, sound good? Thanks guys, there.

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Speaker 2: She goes Missy Matthews. Yep, you never heard Tounch talk

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Speaker 2: about the pistachio.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know the past good one.

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Speaker 2: That was one of his times. You get a dud,

492
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Speaker 2: that was one of his go tos. Sometimes you get

493
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Speaker 2: a dud and it's not it's not a swig of

494
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Speaker 2: beer that's gonna change that taste. It's not, you know,

495
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Speaker 2: a bite of a different food.

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Speaker 3: It's yeah, you got the only way to get.

497
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Speaker 2: The only way to get the bad pistachio taste out

498
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Speaker 2: of your mouth is with another good pistachio.

499
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Speaker 3: And I think there's NFL week.

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Speaker 2: I think there's some of that to be said.

501
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Speaker 3: You're gonna play seventeen games, whether you like it or not.

502
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Speaker 3: You're eating seventeen pistashios, whether you like it or not.

503
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Speaker 3: The chance to getting seventeen in a row, that are

504
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Speaker 3: all good, very low, yeah, right right.

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Speaker 2: In fact impossible. So yeah, I always loved that one

506
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Speaker 2: from Tounch. I mean, those those guys, you know, they

507
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Speaker 2: had such a way of words with words, but that

508
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Speaker 2: was that was one of the ones that always that

509
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Speaker 2: always stuck with me. The tounch Elkin pistachio theory on

510
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Speaker 2: on full display, hopefully in full effect for the Steelers

511
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Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon at home. Gotta take a break. When we

512
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Speaker 2: come back on the other side, we'll start getting into

513
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Speaker 2: a little five Star Friday. We'll start getting in to

514
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Speaker 2: that time some of these matchups between the Steelers and

515
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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals. And of course, in our final segment

516
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Speaker 2: of the day today, we are going to have Steelers

517
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Speaker 2: safety Kyle Duggar join us right here on the Drive cousin,

518
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Speaker 2: so we'll talk to him about this high flying Cincinnati

519
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 2: offense in the task of slowing down those talented eligibles

520
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Speaker 2: that will be wearing stripes on Sunday, not the officials,

521
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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals at akershur Stadium. So plenty to get

522
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Speaker 2: to as we roll along here. Wes Schuler, Matt Williamson,

523
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Speaker 2: It's the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: You were tuned about Drive on your twenty fourth having

526
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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here on a Friday, as we

528
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Speaker 2: close down the first hour of the show. We are

529
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Speaker 2: going to get into a little five star Friday in

530
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Speaker 2: just a minute here, Matt. But before we do that,

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Speaker 2: we did have a roster move that we kind of speculated.

532
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Speaker 2: What happened that is now official. You know, nothing crazy here,

533
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Speaker 2: nothing that's going to grab the headlines. But I did

534
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Speaker 2: just want to, you know, make sure we're doing our

535
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Speaker 2: due diligence in our in our housekeeping. So the Steelers

536
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: did bring back Tray Sermon to the practice squad. I would

537
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Speaker 2: have been shocked if he made official today. They had

538
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Speaker 2: a spot on the practice squad after Isaiah Hodgens was

539
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Speaker 2: signed by the Giants off the Steelers practice squad earlier

540
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Speaker 2: this week. You and I kind of speculated that this

541
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Speaker 2: could be a situation where Sermon comes back into the

542
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Speaker 2: fold and into the practice squad, and that's all. That's

543
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Speaker 2: the case. He's He's back.

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Speaker 3: Involved deal, right, which probably better for him than even

545
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Speaker 3: joining another practice squad. It was a familiarity. They know everything,

546
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Speaker 3: and I just got called up. I could get called

547
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Speaker 3: up again. He's clearly one injury away from being the

548
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Speaker 3: next running back up and running back all the time.

549
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Speaker 2: Like they've got some level of trust and belief, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean he could end up on the

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Speaker 3: active roster again this year.

552
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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent wouldn't surprise us. But he is

553
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Speaker 2: back in the fold back on the Steelers practice squad

554
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Speaker 2: that was announced earlier late morning, early afternoon today officially

555
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Speaker 2: by the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Not shocking on any other No.

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Speaker 2: Not shocking at all. And uh so, yeah, a decent

558
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Speaker 2: amount of moving and shaking on that practice squad this week. Yeah,

559
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Speaker 2: and certainly something uh for.

560
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Speaker 3: People that don't pay enough attention. I mean these teams,

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Speaker 3: the bottom of.

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Speaker 2: That roster moves a lot like crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we made the jokes like on cutdown day,

564
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Speaker 3: like you're fifty three, brother, chance you better play pretty

565
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Speaker 3: well right off the back, because you might not even

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Speaker 3: make it the Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: By the time by the time we get on air

568
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Speaker 2: the next day that yea three might change.

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Speaker 3: You might be gone. We need a guard.

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Speaker 2: You're out totally totally. I mean, look out, look how

571
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Speaker 2: fast it happened for my boy Beanie Bishop right led

572
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Speaker 2: the team in interceptions is a rookie year didn't make

573
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Speaker 2: the initial fifty three. Now off the practice squad, still

574
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Speaker 2: looking for a job around the national NFL. Not for

575
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Speaker 2: long man' that's the that's the way it goes around here.

576
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Speaker 2: And yeah, you're there's a lot of moving and shaking

577
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Speaker 2: on the weekly on the bottom, a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of five nine slot corners pick from you.

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Speaker 2: Know, yes, And that's why too, Even just having one

580
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Speaker 2: of those practice squad jobs is nothing to sneeze at.

581
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Speaker 3: Man. Now, at least you go in the office every

582
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Speaker 3: day and you can impress their position.

583
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Speaker 2: Coach, and you get a pay check, and.

584
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Speaker 3: Then you got a good chance to like we always

585
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Speaker 3: talk about, you get a good chance to come back

586
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 3: to camp next year and then who knows, you know.

587
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,239
Speaker 2: More on tape, more opportunity. That's that's all a lot

588
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: of these guys are looking for. But there is a

589
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: big opportunity for the Steelers to get right, to get

590
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Speaker 2: back in the win column Sunday afternoon at home against

591
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Speaker 2: the Bengals. What are the biggest matchups to keep an

592
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Speaker 2: eye on that are going to determine the outcome of

593
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Speaker 2: Sunday's clash. It's time to talk a little bit of

594
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Speaker 2: that with Matt Williamson here on the drive a little

595
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 2: segment we call five Star Friday. It's a five.

596
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Speaker 3: Star matchup because we're in it.

597
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Speaker 2: All right, Matt. We have done this once already for

598
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Speaker 2: the Bengals. We have talked matchups. We're familiar with a

599
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: lot of these names. It's a divisional foe that we're

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Speaker 2: seeing for the second time around. Here's where I want

601
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Speaker 2: to start with you though, before we do get into

602
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Speaker 2: some specifics. It's a Steelers secondary that is a little

603
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Speaker 2: different when since the last time.

604
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Speaker 3: These series different. It's different week to week anymore.

605
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Speaker 2: That's the truth. And while the names aren't crazy different,

606
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Speaker 2: the roles are different.

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Speaker 3: I mean, when we're recording this Friday, we don't know

608
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Speaker 3: what's going on with Samuel yet, right correct.

609
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Speaker 2: I mean I think we'd both be surprised if he played.

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Speaker 3: I've gotten mixed people that seem to know. Half of

611
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Speaker 3: them think, oh, he's gonna play. We'll keep an eye

612
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Speaker 3: on that, seem to think a week or you know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll ask Kyle Dugger when he when he joins.

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Speaker 3: Us here, I was actually going to I was going

615
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Speaker 3: to bring it up.

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Speaker 2: Samuel Junior going to play Buddy Peel the curtainback for us.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna ask it that way, but I am

618
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Speaker 3: going to ask him, Hey, how would you recommend getting

619
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Speaker 3: on the moving train with a new team as fast

620
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Speaker 3: as you had to? You know? You know, I get three,

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Speaker 3: d had a couple of days with the team before.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we'll save that one for Douger here in

623
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Speaker 2: our number two. But how can a Steelers secondary doesn't

624
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Speaker 2: sound like you're gonna have sleigh?

625
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Speaker 3: Now assume they don't, now right, I'm gonna act like

626
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: Pierre and Porter or your outside corn.

627
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Speaker 2: With Eckles on the slot.

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Speaker 3: Well maybe, Well, this team plays so much eleven. We

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Speaker 3: haven't broke down a lot of the personal tendencies and

630
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Speaker 3: stuff because we really did two weeks. That hasn't changed

631
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Speaker 3: that much. But this team leads the league I think

632
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Speaker 3: in eleven personnel or they're right the top. So you're

633
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Speaker 3: gonna see a lot of nickel. Steelers don't like to

634
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Speaker 3: go dime. I mean, dime's becoming less and less prevalent

635
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Speaker 3: in the league. But side note, so you're gonna see

636
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Speaker 3: a lot of nickel. I would think your corners are

637
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Speaker 3: Pierre and Porter on the outside and.

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Speaker 2: Echoles like the slot that would be my guest.

639
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Speaker 3: Ramsey and Dougger is your safety?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

641
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Speaker 3: Right right?

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00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: Yes?

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00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: So again some of the same names, but in different roles. Obviously,

644
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Speaker 2: the biggest change being Jalen Ramsey moving back.

645
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Speaker 3: And Dougger wasn't around the first time around, and.

646
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Speaker 2: It wasn't around the first time around. So it is

647
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Speaker 2: a difty different safety tandem, different safety hand them for

648
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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers than the one that they took to

649
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati last month.

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Speaker 3: How and his safeties go Ramsey's elite? I mean just

651
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Speaker 3: as a coverage player, yes, I mean just purely guard.

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Speaker 3: You know, so manyse coordinators. If I can get Jamar

653
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 3: Chase through the first level and on a safety deep downfield,

654
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: I got them right where I want him. Well, Ramsey's

655
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: a little bit different, you know.

656
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: So let's dig into that a little bit here. What

657
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: does this reworked Steelers secondary look like against this Bengals

658
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: pass game? Are they in a better position? Are they

659
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: in a worse position? Is it maybe just a different position,

660
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: It's definite different. What's that look like with a different

661
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: safety tandem than the Steelers had the first time these

662
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: teams met?

663
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 3: So, just speaking safeties, I've read this this morning, and

664
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 3: it didn't shock me at all. But the we know

665
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 3: the Steelers prefer to be a single high team. Now

666
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 3: the Steelers have been drifting more and more to too

667
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: high the last couple of weeks with these safety changes, yes,

668
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 3: which I think is smart. But what I didn't understan,

669
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 3: I didn't realize was when they played the first time,

670
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: it was the highest percentage of single high safety that

671
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: the Bengals saw all year. Nobody does that to the Bengals.

672
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: I mean, you're daring them to attack sure downfield outside

673
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: the numbers, you know, or you know, so most teams

674
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: just put a lid on it, tackle the catch, et cetera.

675
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: And that wasn't to me. I mean, all the problems

676
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 3: the Steelers had against Chase especially but Higgins and everybody,

677
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: it wasn't getting beat over the top. I mean, it

678
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 3: wasn't like the too high safety thing was you know,

679
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: where you got exploited, because I mean, you're gonna exploit

680
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 3: a single high safety, usually it's outside the numbers deep,

681
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 3: you know, because they can't get over you know. But

682
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: that's not where Chase it is damage or Higgins for

683
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 3: that matter, And this one it was across the middle.

684
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: It was short stuff, run after catch, et cetera. But

685
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: I still think you'll probably see a much higher percentage

686
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: of too high than you did. I hope you see

687
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 3: a much less percentage of blitz. I mean, because we

688
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 3: realize we.

689
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: Talked about that a little bit yesterday, how it's just not.

690
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 3: Been Flaco's shows. He beats the blitz now, you know.

691
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: And I know you'd love to hit the old guy,

692
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 3: but I think you can get there. I just want

693
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: him to pack the ball. That's the same thing we

694
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 3: said about Daniel Jones.

695
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: You know, just one extra half second.

696
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, one pulse longer would go a long way. And

697
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 3: I want a lot of people in those short intermedia

698
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 3: zones to help as opposed to hate Pierre, you got Chase.

699
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 3: I mean Pierre's playing well, yes, and frankly, I might

700
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 3: be more confident with Pierre than Sleigh at this point.

701
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 3: I mean from I think Pierre's played better than Sleigh

702
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 3: this year, smaller amount. The other thing, the Steelers have

703
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 3: a history, it's not exclusive. Is a porter or porter.

704
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 3: You have Higgins, and then we'll do a lot of

705
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 3: stuff with Chase. I don't know what to think, but

706
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be keep a lot of eyes on. Is

707
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: that how they'll attack this week too? And basically Joey

708
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: you have him alone, which doesn't mean that Higgins won't

709
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: get ballster in his way, but that's an often approach

710
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: they've taken against the Bengals.

711
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they have, and it's gonna be interesting. You know.

712
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase was I don't know if you heard. I

713
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: think it was yesterday he was asked about Joey Porter

714
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: Junior and he said, that guy's handsy, you know it is.

715
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: But it's one of those things where I think eventually

716
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: something has to give for the Steelers secondary against these guys,

717
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: Like we know how good they are.

718
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But at the.

719
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: Same time, the Steelers secondary, it's not like every talented

720
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 2: wide receiver tandem comes in and lights these guys up. No,

721
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: you know, just for some reason, these two particularly win

722
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 2: there on the field at the same time have been

723
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: a real bugaboo for the Steelers. Like Alan Saunders, who

724
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 2: you know, we know he works for for Pittsburgh Sports Now,

725
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: he did like a breakdown that I saw him post

726
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: on Twitter few days ago this week where the Bengals

727
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 2: offense against the Steelers when Chase and Higgins have both

728
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: been on the field and the Bengals offense against the Steelers,

729
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: when just one of those guys has been missing, okay,

730
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: and it's like a drastic it's a drastic difference, And

731
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: that makes some sense.

732
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 3: You take a good player off field, you're gonna be worse.

733
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely, But it was it was a very drastic like.

734
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 2: It was a it was like without one of those guys,

735
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: they struggle to score twenty points against the Steelers. Both

736
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: of those guys they're scoring in the thirties. Yeah, pretty

737
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: much every single time. At some point this secondary not

738
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: completely put the clamps on these guys and shut them down,

739
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: but I think they're almost due for a good showing

740
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: against You know them so well, there's no secrets. You

741
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: know how they're gonna play, you know how they're going

742
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: to attack. You go respond to it, punch back a

743
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: little bit.

744
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I understand all that, and I don't disagree

745
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: with you. The other thing is in the first meeting,

746
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: when you left Yoshavas in good coverages, Flacco is hitting them.

747
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: It's true, it was no right.

748
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 3: I mean so, but I'll be honest. I mean, if

749
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 3: Yoshavas and fant each have a touchdown and combined for

750
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: one hundred yards. We might be fine with that on Monday,

751
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, I'm not going to

752
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 3: be overly concerned with those guys. Not that they're bad,

753
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 3: it's just, you know, I just I'm gonna roll coverage

754
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 3: is much more to those outside studs. Yes, but I

755
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 3: don't have great answers. I mean, blitz less more zone

756
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 3: pretty clear you couldn't man up with them.

757
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not.

758
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 3: And if you can, but I mean, don't even.

759
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: Try correct correct And I think the one part of

760
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: you know, to bring it back to some of the

761
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: Sante Samuel Junior stuff. With more Zone, I think you

762
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: would like to have. I would think so that Sunday,

763
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: if possible, if possible, if possible.

764
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: Now zone takes a little more communication. When do I

765
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: pass them off to the next guy or what ever? Yes,

766
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 3: but I mean I think by signing him you kind

767
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: of said, yeah, we're probably not gonna play a ton

768
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 3: of man go forward, you know, I mean, we realize

769
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 3: what we're at here. Better in zone now, Echo seems

770
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 3: better in zone. You know, everyone but Porter.

771
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: Matt some news from Cincinnati here as they have officially

772
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: ruled out Trey Hendrickson, Shamar Stewart, and Samaj p Ryan

773
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: for Sunday's game. So two not p Ryan. Is you

774
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: know they're clear cutting number two running back. Yes, that's

775
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: a bit of a loss. I mean Chase is also

776
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: like real solid and protection.

777
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 3: He is a he's a pro.

778
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: He's a good situational running back. Yeah, he's an he's

779
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: an ideal. You were talking about this a little bit

780
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: with Labs, like how the Steelers backfield feels like it's

781
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: missing a hammer. Like, he's a nice hammer to have

782
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 2: any He's.

783
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 3: A hammer that protects and you can catch them all a little.

784
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: Bit, situations, all that stuff. But no Hendrickson, no Stuart.

785
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: Kind of the two big name pass rusher bookends for

786
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 2: the Bengals not surprising, but now just a few minutes

787
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: ago have officially been ruled out by Cincinnati.

788
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: And partially because this partially just because it's a bad defense.

789
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: But I don't think there's any excuse to have a

790
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: really low average depth of target. And I know that's

791
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: how Rogers wants to play. And I think a lot

792
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: of people overreact to saying Steelers can't protect. That's the

793
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: only reason ball's coming out. So fast. There's ways around that.

794
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 3: I mean, the Chargers couldn't protect. I mean, the Chargers

795
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: didn't have players. I mean, I know Roder Jonesy's help

796
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: will help them. I mean I'd like to see them

797
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: push the ball down the field a little bit more,

798
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 3: attack from ten to twenty neighborhood a little bit more.

799
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 3: Not just bombs away necessarily, but let's drive the ball

800
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 3: down the field, especially on some third downs that seems

801
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 3: like they throw. I know you can find the numbers,

802
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 3: and I didn't look them up, but they sure seem

803
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 3: to throw short of sticks on third downs a lot,

804
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 3: a lot, Yeah, a lot.

805
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: That's one thing that I'm sure the numbers back up,

806
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: and I'm sure the tests certainly does.

807
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

808
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: And that's been the case for just more than this year.

809
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 3: It's not just a Rogers or it's not just an

810
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 3: Arthur Smith, but I mean they're always at the bottom

811
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 3: of the league with that stuff, right.

812
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: Matt spinning the block here. I wanted to ask you

813
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: from a Steelers offense versus Bengals defense perspective, is the

814
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: matchup to keep an eye on, really, DK Metcalf against

815
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: DJ Turner.

816
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know that they'll follow, but Turner

817
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 3: is definitely the guy if you're gonna avoid anyone. Fine,

818
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 3: sort of like we have talked about with Higgins, I

819
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: would imagine if Turner's on Austin, he'll be alone. Now

820
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean he can't go his way, but I

821
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 3: mean sure, he's one of the few guys that can

822
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 3: run with Austin. He was like a four to two

823
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: guy at his combine. I mean, speed is he's a

824
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 3: little leaner, but he's really really fast. Every team's double

825
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 3: in Metcalf. I mean it's not even a hidden or

826
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: a secret. I mean, I know you can also look

827
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 3: up double team rates. Maybe I haven't been doing my

828
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 3: job in my status this week, but his has to

829
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: be through the roof too.

830
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 2: It gotta be, especially it feels like the last couple

831
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: weeks in particular.

832
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: And we all know he's a good player, but he's

833
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 3: not the best receiver in the league. He should not

834
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: be the most doubled receiver in the league, and I

835
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: bet he's near the top, which to me is an

836
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 3: argument for why you need a second receiver. Not just

837
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: what if Metcal gets hurt, It's like, well, you're not

838
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: getting the most out of the metcal you know what

839
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 3: I mean.

840
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: I understand the argument of you know, wide receiver twos

841
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: have never been a big fixture of Arthur Smith offenses, right,

842
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: I get that side of the logic. But the other

843
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: side is it's it's almost like the distraction. It's a

844
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: distraction element, like you just some even if they're not

845
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: going to be a big focal part of your offense.

846
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 2: It's someone to take attention off DK Meth.

847
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: The number one, you know, Like a good example would

848
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 3: be like Atlanta, Like everyone knows London is the one,

849
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 3: and I'm going back to I picked them because Arthur

850
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: Smith was there. Sure, and they went and got Mooney

851
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 3: after Arthur Smith. But yes, everyone knows that you want

852
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: to get the ball to London. But if Mooney's over there,

853
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: he's not the best receiver in the world either. But

854
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: it makes London's life a little easier. It's just a fewer,

855
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: little bit less attention.

856
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: Even for Chase Higgins being the Chase Higgins, for Chase

857
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: being the destroyer of worlds that he is the best

858
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 2: receiver in football. Think how much easier his life is

859
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 2: made by t.

860
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: Higgins, right, or Jefferson and Addison Jefferson now where there's

861
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 3: a clear gap between the two. But you got to

862
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: have somebody that is going to rip up single coverage

863
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 3: if you're gonna leave him there all the time.

864
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: And the Steers don't have so many of the times

865
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: when ab was having his best year, it was when

866
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 2: Martavis Bryant was playing well, Juju was playing.

867
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Speaker 3: Well, right when lighting my load, a.

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Speaker 2: Little someone else that they got to respect, someone else

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Speaker 2: that they got to keep an eye on. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I feel like this is a this is another big

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Speaker 2: one for Metcalf. I you know, it's been it's been

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Speaker 2: a few weeks since we've seen him have some of

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Speaker 2: those DK Metcalf you know, jump off the screen type

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Speaker 2: highlight plays. Yeah, I feel like he'll have the opportunity

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Speaker 2: to do so again.

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Speaker 3: Oh he should, I mean, you should still do well.

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Speaker 3: Even if he's getting a lot of extra attention. I

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Speaker 3: was still not. The other thing is we've definitely talked

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Speaker 3: about this throughout the week, is because of where the

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Speaker 3: offense is, I want the ball in my best player's

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Speaker 3: hands and my most reliable and to me, that's three guys.

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Speaker 3: That's Warren yep, Metcalf yep, and Mouth yep.

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Speaker 2: Especially against the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Especially against the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: But right Mouth's walking into Canton if he plays every

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Speaker 2: game against Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're terrible against the tight ends. Their safety

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Speaker 3: linebacker plays really, really bad. That's part of the reason

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Speaker 3: people are like, why friar Mouth kill the Bengals because

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Speaker 3: they're terrible and tight ends are really ripping them up.

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Speaker 3: But he does have quite the history. But I would

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Speaker 3: simplify things a little bit and be like, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: do designer plays to get the ball in those three

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Speaker 3: guys hands. I love Washington, I mean game well, John

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Speaker 3: who Austin Roman. I mean them are bad. Doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: they don't get any targets. But I would make the

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Speaker 3: game plan more constant and traded.

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Speaker 2: If you got a shooter, Matt, you draw up screens

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Speaker 2: and picks and plays to get your shooter looks. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's let's let's get those those offensive shooters looks.

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Speaker 3: The one thing I did see too is they're near

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Speaker 3: the bottom of the league or at the bottom of league,

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Speaker 3: not necessarily in motion. So a new a new thing

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Speaker 3: that the analytic dorcs are taken to a new level

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Speaker 3: lately is people are familiar with motion rate. How often

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Speaker 3: do you use motion? But there's a lot of different

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Speaker 3: versions of motion. Like I'm not a coach, but like

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00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 3: a lot of the Matt Canada motion didn't accomplish much.

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Speaker 3: It was just one guy drying windows. Yeah, like okay,

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Speaker 3: maybe I'm getting a man. Look, maybe i'm zone. Look

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Speaker 3: where you watch Like the Dolphins, Tyreek Hill is in

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Speaker 3: motion at the snap. That's a big thing people are

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Speaker 3: charting too, is how much motion when the ball is

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Speaker 3: actually snapped. Yep, And the Steelers are real low in

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Speaker 3: that too. Let's do some of that to manufacture you

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Speaker 3: can scheme things up for Metcalf, get opening. We have

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Speaker 3: to line up the same place and.

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Speaker 2: Get doubled absolutely right, absolutely had.

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Speaker 3: A pick like you said, you know, I mean they

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Speaker 3: can make a basketball reference right, one hundred percent. Scheme

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Speaker 3: them up.

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Speaker 2: Scheme them up, baby, Let's get it done. Hour in

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Speaker 2: the books, another hour to go. We'll continue to give

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Speaker 2: some some more thoughts, some more scouting on Steelers Bengals.

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Speaker 2: We will obviously go around the league, run the gambit

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Speaker 2: of all these games Big Week eleven across the National

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Speaker 2: Football League, and we will talk to Kyle Dugger as

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Speaker 2: well too. Before we get up out of here. All

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Speaker 2: that and more an hour number two u'ler Williamson. It's

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Speaker 2: the Drive on a Friday on the Steelers Audio Network