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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett now live in Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bow Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go live on a reaction Monday edition

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Speaker 2: of the program. Merely Bow broadcasting live here from Gray Cold, Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Z and Gibbe Soun kissed in Beverly Hills. And that

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Speaker 2: might be about all of the positives, gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunately, so for the Cleveland Browns, it was a

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Speaker 3: very tough game yesterday in.

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Speaker 2: Wait, hold on a second, Hold on a second, you

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Speaker 2: have sung. Look, we got plenty of time to gots

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Speaker 2: the negatives. There's a lot of negative stuff.

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Speaker 3: I felt like that was a setup that was leading

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Speaker 3: into negatives like no, no, you're great, but there's nothing

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Speaker 3: else good.

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Speaker 2: I wanted you to bask. I want you to bask

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Speaker 2: in your in your glory of sun. I want look

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Speaker 2: at Gibbe, give me's probably what do you what do

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Speaker 2: you have any that.

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Speaker 3: Maybe gives in a trolley house golf outing T shirt

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Speaker 3: and some beautiful orange shorts.

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Speaker 4: Looks great.

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Speaker 2: Does he have? Is there already some sort of a

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Speaker 2: southern California, maybe a Sierra Nevada pale ale a pale.

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Speaker 4: And no night yet. This is a business trip, Bishop,

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Speaker 4: were businessman?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? What do you got dinner at mister chow tonight?

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Speaker 4: No? Actually no, right down the road.

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Speaker 2: The road, you just walk right from where you are.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna go taking Monday night football and break bread

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Speaker 3: with our good friend Chris Rose.

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Speaker 2: There you go, there you go.

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Speaker 4: That's nice.

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Speaker 2: That'll be a nice time, a good time. So you

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Speaker 2: guys flew. You guys went right out of the game

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Speaker 2: to l A and you've been you. You guys are

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Speaker 2: at where you guys at. You're at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

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Speaker 2: Is that right, the Beverly Hilton.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're you're in one of those You're in the

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Speaker 5: Beverly Hills Hotel, like one of those places where stars

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Speaker 5: go to disappear.

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Speaker 4: That's right, that's where you are.

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Speaker 3: We haven't any of them yet.

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Speaker 4: One of our players this morning ran into Mike Tyson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, moved your body, ran into uh, Mike Iron Mike

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Speaker 3: on a walk today.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that'd be one you'd be excited to

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Speaker 2: run into hoping you have a positive interaction.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right up here to this my room. You don't

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Speaker 4: want that to be a negative interaction.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no no. You want that to go really well,

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Speaker 2: is how you want. And if it goes really well,

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Speaker 2: the ceilings very very high.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why it happened. You mentioned how your

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Speaker 3: for you on Instagram knows you well. Mine does very

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Speaker 3: well also. Uh it did pop up though for some reason.

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Speaker 3: Flipping through reels this morning, Mike Tyson's first fight after

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Speaker 3: he was released from prison.

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Speaker 2: Pete McNeely Hurricane Peter McNeely the tomato can. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so there was I saw two. So I saw

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Speaker 3: that one and then one he fought. I didn't get

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Speaker 3: the name, but it was over in maybe nine seconds.

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Speaker 3: He just came in with a flurry and it was

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Speaker 3: just like boom boom. The guy's head was like a

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I have I have one bit of good news

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Speaker 2: from back here, and then we'll get in all the

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Speaker 2: stuff that's tough. We have a new chair.

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Speaker 3: Really wow, wow, they came in. Do we have new chairs?

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Speaker 3: Let's submit a new chair. I said, we have a

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Speaker 3: new chair.

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Speaker 4: One singular correct and I always tell.

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Speaker 2: You it feels great. Some solid lumbar support here, love.

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Speaker 3: That, gotta have Look at this, Look at this, Look

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Speaker 3: at Thish running the I'm at the seat of the

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Speaker 3: Millennium falcon.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is spectacular. This is really You're.

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Speaker 4: Making the kessel run in twelve parsecs.

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Speaker 2: Easy, easy, twelve par sis. I can also update you

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Speaker 2: that the old chairs are still here. They are what

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Speaker 2: I call the chair graveyard. Otherwise is our studio.

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Speaker 4: I like that we're building that. It's kind of fun.

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Speaker 2: We're building a chair graveyard here.

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Speaker 5: Those are those are left for certain people when they

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Speaker 5: come in the.

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Speaker 2: Current Yeah, well, I don't know you're gonna have you

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Speaker 2: Luckily you have to Steve. You have two Stevie's and

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Speaker 2: they can. They're gonna have to move chairs in and out.

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Speaker 2: I guess, actually right, we just have the one round.

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Speaker 5: If it's lower to the ground and not up as high,

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Speaker 5: it's still a relatively comfortable chair. Like maybe one of

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Speaker 5: the Jacob squares would want that.

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Speaker 2: That's up to them.

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Speaker 4: That's up to them. By the way, where's chair number two?

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Speaker 4: Where's chair number two? It's my question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll show you on the zoom.

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Speaker 4: It's baby. I mean, that's a beauty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's just the singular chair. That's it.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's all we need right now.

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Speaker 2: But but hopefully by next Monday, by next one, are

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Speaker 2: you guys coming back in January? How long are you gone?

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Speaker 3: We'll be back guys, probably around three thirty in the

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Speaker 3: morning on Monday.

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Speaker 2: That sounds I feel like I feel like you guys

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Speaker 2: have been gone all season. You were at the Greenbrier

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Speaker 2: for six weeks and you're in Philly for a week

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Speaker 4: And now your wife feel the same way. Boy do they?

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Speaker 2: Where are you guys? Meantime? Yucking it up pool side

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Speaker 2: at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

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Speaker 4: Not tomorrow, good.

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Speaker 5: My father in law that tomorrow we're not allowing you

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Speaker 5: inmates are not allowed at the pool tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but my father in law is like randomly calls

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Speaker 5: and goes, hey, how's your vacation going.

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Speaker 4: I'm right, who told you?

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Speaker 5: I was hunt? He goes your wife she called every

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Speaker 5: road trip you go on it's a vacation, And I'm like,

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Speaker 5: this is not a vacation.

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Speaker 2: Not, yes, this one might be, this one might.

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Speaker 5: Be here on Twitter might lude to otherwise, but yeah,

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Speaker 5: like Monday and Tuesday, there's a chance to catch your breath. Yes, Wednesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 5: Friday over Yeah, business.

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Speaker 2: Listen, let me just tell you this. You're doing the

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Speaker 2: same job you did here. You're just doing it in paradise.

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Speaker 2: You're doing it in one of the most desirable zip

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Speaker 2: codes on the planet, so that's fair. Yes, you're working,

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Speaker 2: so it's not true vacation, but you're you're It's just

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Speaker 2: like if a pure joy mid June day here, except

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Speaker 2: that's where it is.

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Speaker 3: Except I don't have my bed, home, family. Why all

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Speaker 3: of those things are replaceable? Let me ask you this.

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Speaker 3: Apparently you didn't watch them in season Miami Dolphins episode

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Speaker 3: of Hard Knocks, because now they give a whole speech

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Speaker 3: about that that basically you need to play every play

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Speaker 3: like somebody has taken your family and they're running down

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Speaker 3: the street with them, and if you don't go pursue

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Speaker 2: I have not seen that yet, No I will.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was actually really good. Tyreek Hill's really entertaining

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Speaker 3: and likeable and catches every pass that's thrown his way,

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Speaker 3: which is something we need to have ruboff on our

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Speaker 2: All right, do you want? We got to do this right,

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Speaker 2: Let's do it. Let's do it. It's twenty nine to twelve.

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Speaker 2: It goes in the books. I'm gonna, I'm gonna. Let's.

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Speaker 2: I think the lead here is not the result, but

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Speaker 2: rather the injuries and and I think when you were

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Speaker 2: we'll nitpick and what happened here and why do we

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Speaker 2: do this? Blah blah blah. But the bigger thing here

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Speaker 2: is we let you said, you and I did the

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Speaker 2: show Thanksgiving right before things here were with the food bank,

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Speaker 2: and we said, you got to be eight and five

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 2: You got to split these two games. So that's if

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Speaker 2: you want to be a playoff team, you had to

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Speaker 2: split these two games. There are two very very winnable

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Speaker 2: games at Denver and then against the Rams. The Rams

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Speaker 2: looked great, by the way yesterday. So that's the job.

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Speaker 2: So we'll get to all of that. But where are we.

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Speaker 2: You guys have been around the team. Where are we?

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Speaker 2: And I know we won't know anything until four o'clock

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Speaker 2: with coach, But we had monstrous scares. We have people

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Speaker 2: here are in full panic, and I think they have

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Speaker 2: a right to be. You got dtr you got Amar,

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Speaker 2: you got Elliott, and you got Miles in a sling.

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Speaker 2: So what is going on with the mass unit?

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Speaker 4: Uh to what you said is accurate.

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Speaker 3: We will not know the answers until later, but I

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Speaker 3: do think there has to be some concern about Miles

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Speaker 3: Garrett's availability. And if you think if you're going to

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Speaker 3: put a poster together at the beginning of this season, yep,

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Speaker 3: my guess is that poster would have included Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 3: Nick Chubb, Denzel Ward and Miles Garrett. We know for

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Speaker 3: sure we'll be taking on the Los Angeles Rams without

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: His X rays were negative, So that's the one that

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Speaker 3: you're the most optimistic about. But I mean, this is

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Speaker 3: it's wild, brother. I mean, you think about you start

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Speaker 3: eleven people on offense, you're going in this season, of

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Speaker 3: those eleven the most important to Sean, second most important,

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Speaker 3: Nick Chubb, and then your two tackles, they're all they're

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Speaker 3: gone at Jed Wills will come back at some point,

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Speaker 3: but it's you've been decimated. And now it's starting to

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Speaker 3: add up on the defensive side of the football as well,

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Speaker 3: with Denzel being out. And by the way, I thought

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Speaker 3: that played a massive role in this game, Denzel Ward

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Speaker 3: being out against the Denver Broncos. No kidding, yeah, you're

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Speaker 3: you're really you know, without Miles. Now, Obo's played well

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Speaker 3: and Zadarius, but all these guys played well. But Miles

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Speaker 3: is the best player in the NFL and on the

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Speaker 3: be a major, major loss. I know he'll be out

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Speaker 3: there if it's at all possible for him to do so.

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Speaker 3: But we'll have to wait and see there. But the

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Speaker 3: injuries were a big story.

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Speaker 2: And you know, is this three straight, I realize I've

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Speaker 2: been doing a lot. I mean, I got I'm being

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Speaker 2: pulled in a thousand. Ward is out. That's official.

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Speaker 4: Ward was out this past week.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no, But like for the Rams, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm saying it feels like that is certainly.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yes, yes, yes, okay. I thought maybe that

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Speaker 4: You hope that he's.

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Speaker 4: DTR should be a seventy percent passer.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's wild the amount of drops that are happening,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just there's I don't know, It's like they're

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Speaker 4: I mean I would he usually he would just say anything.

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Speaker 2: Like, I'm just trying to make sense of it because

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Speaker 3: It's it's wild. And then it kind of even continued

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Speaker 3: talk about it the reverse. I think this is Kevin Stefanski.

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Speaker 3: You felt, Okay, we're gonna have to try to manufacture

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Speaker 3: That was the nail in the coffin. Then they come down,

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Speaker 4: You put up twelve un answered points.

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Speaker 3: It felt to me like old Browns games where you'd

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Speaker 3: overcome that in Baltimore. We did not overcome it today,

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Speaker 4: But we definitely had some momentum and let it get away.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a combination of India and Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: It was almost like in this one he thought he

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Speaker 3: But we had You know, when you look at it

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Speaker 3: We don't do that very often and you're down. But

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Speaker 3: I thought the mix was fine. I think the reverse

440
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Speaker 3: obviously is one you want to have back. But it's

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Speaker 3: so funny. I didn't hear a single person say on

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Speaker 3: fourth down near the goal line that I can't believe

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Speaker 3: we threw it because it was it worked because we

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Speaker 3: threw it and it was a touchdown, and nobody was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: that was a great call.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was a great call. But you don't

447
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Speaker 4: hear the praise.

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Speaker 3: For the good as much as the criticism of the negative.

449
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Speaker 3: And when you lose in the NFL, that's what you do.

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Speaker 3: Now that we're going to go on the road and

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Speaker 3: beat hot teams without most of our main guys, like

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Speaker 3: that's it is hard to do, no excuses, and we

453
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Speaker 3: didn't play the way we needed to to win under

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Speaker 3: those auspices.

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Speaker 4: Plain as day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had the the the other thing, I mean,

457
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Speaker 2: you'd hear people complaining about the Harrison Bryant. You know

458
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Speaker 2: they didn't. He fumbled the snap on the one. It

459
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Speaker 2: was like, that's worked every time.

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Speaker 4: It's been our best play.

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Speaker 2: That play works every time. And then yes, one time

462
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Speaker 2: it didn't. But like the idea of like that's overthinking it. No,

463
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Speaker 2: that's worked. Every time we put Harrison Brian under center.

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Speaker 2: It's worked. We have variations off it, including one that

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Speaker 2: scored a touchdown with Kareem So yes, I mean, like

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Speaker 2: we you have to have the full context of all

467
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Speaker 2: of it, and I kept I just feel like there

468
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Speaker 2: is such a lack. It's like there's only one note

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Speaker 2: that knows how to be played, and it's to complain.

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Speaker 2: And yes, this is a disappointing loss. You mentioned getting behind.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the turnover game. Obviously, we've talked about the reverse.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about this and that maybe we'd like to

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Speaker 2: have run it more so for so on. The reality

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Speaker 2: is is as you let off this entire thing, that's

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Speaker 2: the overwhelming point. Look who you are playing without, Look

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Speaker 2: who you are playing without. This is the league, man.

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Speaker 2: Do you know how hard it is week to week,

478
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Speaker 2: how brutal it is. Yes, there was an opportunity to

479
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Speaker 2: go eight and three. But you're playing a very hot

480
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Speaker 2: team who, by the way, had beaten Kansas City recently,

481
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Speaker 2: Buffalo recently. Like they've found their way and they are

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Speaker 2: not the walking wounded that we are now.

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Speaker 3: The only person there without was a suspended Kareem Jackson,

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Speaker 3: and they are without the tight end Greg Dulsic, who

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Speaker 3: was out of part of their offense to begin with.

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Speaker 3: Playing it would be like if they were without Russ

487
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Speaker 3: all of their backs. By the way, Samaji p Ryan,

488
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Speaker 3: it's like when he plays the Browns, he becomes a

489
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Speaker 3: different animal. It's insane. He carries people, runs through people.

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Speaker 3: But no, and it's not an excuse. It is the league. Unfortunately,

491
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Speaker 3: there are teams dealing with similar situations.

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Speaker 2: But nothing.

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Speaker 3: If we're going to win in those situations, we have

494
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Speaker 3: to play a very particular brand of ball. And I

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Speaker 3: think you can't get out to a slow start, which

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Speaker 3: we did. You think about Pittsburgh. We got out to

497
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Speaker 3: the fast start, We're up ten to nothing, We're able

498
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Speaker 3: to end up winning that game. You gotta get out

499
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Speaker 3: to fast starts. You can't get out to slow starts.

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Speaker 3: You can't turn the football over and you can't have

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Speaker 3: backbreaking drive extending penalties. I thought that was really one

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Speaker 3: of the stories of the game. And then it's money situations. Right,

503
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Speaker 3: they're six of fourteen on third down, which against US

504
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Speaker 3: is a great number. And if you think about early

505
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Speaker 3: in the game, there were four for five. So did

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Speaker 3: we clam down, yes, but we were already down fourteen.

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Speaker 3: We were just two of thirteen on third down. So

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Speaker 3: that's where you're at. You know, you were not the

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Speaker 3: team that you needed to be in this game to

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Speaker 3: be able to win. Eight penalties, three turnovers.

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Speaker 2: Every metric that matters to most third down percentage, red

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Speaker 2: zone efficiency, turnovers, we lost every one of those.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 2: They won everything in that regard. So like, that's that's

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Speaker 2: how it goes.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 2: And then when you when you factor in where we

518
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Speaker 2: were from a quarterback standpoint by the time it was done,

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Speaker 2: I mean, tough, but that's that's that's the league, and

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Speaker 2: that's where you'll go from here. This press conference that

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Speaker 2: Kevin has at four o'clock is going to be a

522
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Speaker 2: fascinating one and I think everyone is going to be

523
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Speaker 2: on pens and needles waiting to hear what is said

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Speaker 2: because this injury reports crazy it is.

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Speaker 3: We got to see you know, this team's going to

526
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Speaker 3: have to rally around each other somehow, gonna have to

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Speaker 3: try to find a way to get you know, back

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Speaker 3: into the winning mentality and kind of overcome you know,

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Speaker 3: more obstacles. Unfortunately, they have been setbacks the entire game,

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Speaker 3: uh and the entire season, and you're just gonna have

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Speaker 3: to deal with it.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, that's a big press conference.

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Speaker 3: Now we haven't even talked about the elephant in the room,

534
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Speaker 3: which is and I'll say it again, I was very

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Speaker 3: encouraged by Teja the play that he made on third

536
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Speaker 3: down to Amari where they had a free runner and

537
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Speaker 3: he throws it floating back, throws the out before Mariti

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Speaker 3: had broken that leads. That's that's that's what got that

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Speaker 3: drive going to get us the touchdown. Yep, that's a

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Speaker 3: big time play and a big time arm. He did

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Speaker 3: a lot of really encouraging things. If you're a Browns fan,

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Speaker 3: the main takeaway from this one, other than all the

543
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Speaker 3: negatives that we talked about, should be that this was

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Speaker 3: an encouraging performance from dtr Over in the middle.

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Speaker 4: Portion of that game.

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Speaker 2: Very more.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now the question.

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Speaker 3: Becomes with him in the concussion proto call after he

549
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Speaker 3: took an absolutely big, big hit. Is can he is?

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Speaker 3: Is there a chance that he could play this weekend?

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Speaker 3: And now you say could he be ready by Sunday? Potentially?

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Speaker 3: But DTR started three games like he's not a guy

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Speaker 3: that you roll out if he can't practice all week.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no. But then there's the other part.

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Speaker 4: Part two is the following PJ.

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Speaker 3: Walker thank him and love him for everything he's given

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Speaker 3: this team this year, but it is clear that you

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Speaker 3: cannot win with him. So that leaves us with the question,

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Speaker 3: and this will probably be a big part of this

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Speaker 3: press conference, is if DTR is not able to get

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Speaker 3: practice up on Wednesday, which I think would be likely,

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Speaker 3: knowing what we know about the concussion protocol, is Joe

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Speaker 3: Flacco starting for the Cleveland Browns this Sunday against the

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles Rams.

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Speaker 2: I can't see a scenario. Word's anything other than that.

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Speaker 3: I would have to agree with you. By the way,

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Speaker 3: we talked about stats, you were talking about the drop rate.

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Speaker 3: Just real quick, it's came up from my good friend

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Speaker 3: cleve Ta post of this. DTR as a quarterback leads

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Speaker 3: the NFL with a twelve point one percent drop rate

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Speaker 3: from his receivers. That means one of every eight passes

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Speaker 3: that he's throwing on target are being dropped.

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Speaker 4: PJ.

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Speaker 3: Walker second in the NFL in the same set. Deshaun

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Speaker 3: Watson ninth in the NFL in the same set. The

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Speaker 3: Browns is a team number one. They have dropped nine

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Speaker 3: point five percent of all on target passes this year.

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Speaker 3: That is first in league by a mine. Unacceptable, unacceptable, unacceptable.

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Speaker 3: Like watching that hard knocksing again, it blew my mind.

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Speaker 3: Tyreek kills a small guy, small hands. He catches everything,

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Speaker 3: running at unbelievable speeds. And now two it does put

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Speaker 3: the ball in a good spot, a lout of time,

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Speaker 3: but catches absolutely everything. We can't have this. We cannot

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Speaker 3: have this. And clearly it's not just a DTR thing. No,

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Speaker 3: it's it's our pass cat. It's our passc that's your thing.

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Speaker 3: They've got to figure it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, quickly, quickly. All right, some more takeaways from this one.

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Speaker 2: We had some big news in the NFL as well.

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Speaker 2: Take a look at the playoff picture. We will visit

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Speaker 2: with the hoff coming up at two o'clock. We are

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Speaker 2: Just gorgeous, gleaming off of gibbe. Oh, they're down. The

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Speaker 2: I mean, and be honest with you, who know this

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Speaker 2: is what I think this is. I see they're set up.

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Speaker 2: They're at a hotel in Beverly Hills. They're not at

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Speaker 2: the Beverly Hills Hotel. That's probably three grand a night.

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Speaker 2: That's where the bungalows are, but they are at a

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Speaker 2: hotel in Beverly Hills. The sun is out. Who really

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Speaker 2: wants to talk about this anyway? Who wants to commiserate? No, No,

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Speaker 2: one wants to do this. They're probably a couple of

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Speaker 2: drivers from LA country club. Who gets hurt all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden. Oh no, we can't connect. We have no

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Speaker 2: there's a guy does a show in the morning, binds.

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Speaker 2: Why can't you do this? Can't do this? Do this

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Speaker 2: show too? That's what I think. I think they're going

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Speaker 2: to play golf. Nick, I don't even believe you. You

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Speaker 2: can tell the audience what you told me, Nicky. We'll

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Speaker 2: get him back out. But we're gonna You don't believe

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Speaker 2: we don't believe this. We have a lot of fun, Nick,

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Speaker 2: You don't believe them. I don't believe them. They're in

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Speaker 2: southern California. They're gonna play golf. They're done, Oh, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: They've done the heavy lifting. That's where they're at. They've

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Speaker 2: done the heavy San Diego is gorgeous. It's you know,

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Speaker 2: just you know, one hundred miles away. It's fantastic where

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Speaker 2: they're at. Yeah, I mean I was married out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is that's what this is

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Speaker 2: a big ruse to get out of doing this program.

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Speaker 2: They know that we get the Hoff coming up at two,

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Speaker 2: so once they get there they can walk anyway. That's

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Speaker 2: what's going on right now. I promise you that's what's

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Speaker 2: going on. I will get you a couple of the

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Speaker 2: news in the NFL, and it's big. Carolina has fired

638
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Speaker 2: it coach Frank Reich after a one in ten start.

639
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: It's a pretty stunning thing. It's the fastest a coach

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Speaker 2: has ever been fired. You got to go back forever

641
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: to find one that was fired sooner. It is, however,

642
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Speaker 2: the third straight season where we have seen a head

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Speaker 2: coach fired during the season. Well, Jacksonville second straight year. Yeah,

644
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: but it wasn't right right right right with Indy, but

645
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Speaker 2: he had been at Indy before, like this is he's

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Speaker 2: just started. So it was Urban two years ago, at Jacksonville,

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Speaker 2: it was Nathaniel Hackett last year in Denver, and now

648
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Speaker 2: Frank Reich in Carolina. This all stems around the quarterback

649
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Speaker 2: decision and the way that that was handled. David Tepper

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Speaker 2: the owner of Carolina wanted Bryce Young. The reporting that

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Speaker 2: I've read this morning was that Frank Reich and his

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Speaker 2: group wanted c J. Stroud, they went Bryce Young, And

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Speaker 2: there's vitriol and animosity between all of that. So we

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Speaker 2: do have our first coaching casualty in terms of a

655
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Speaker 2: guy who's been on the job not even a year.

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Speaker 2: All right, we are going to take a quick time out.

657
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Speaker 2: We'll see what the guy's back on. I can't tell you.

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Speaker 2: You're back. I thought for sure you'd bounce.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 3: My mom's my mom the official national Tea. She said

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Speaker 3: that both thinks you're gone, No, not gone right here

681
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: with you.

682
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: Like I couldn't even blame you, Like if there was

683
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: some sort of a technical roadblock that could not be overcome,

684
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: there were worse things. We have commiserated, We've talked about

685
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: all the stuff that sucked, and I hit.

686
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: Some of the positives, and we talked about some of

687
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: the positives. I maybe have a few more positives. If people,

688
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 3: if people want them.

689
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Speaker 2: Go give it to them now. People, this sounds very

690
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: receptive to positives.

691
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Jokay Jeremiahusu Corboa is having an unbelievable season,

692
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 3: near the league lead at tackles for loss, picked up

693
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 3: another sack yesterday, probably at three tackles for loss when

694
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 3: it was all said and done in that one. J Okay,

695
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: that's somebody. That's something to get excited about. What he

696
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 3: has become here in his third season for the Cleveland Browns.

697
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: Has been a real playmaker, a force behind the line

698
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 3: of scrimmage in the backfield, doing everything that he needs

699
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Speaker 3: to do.

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Speaker 4: I thought Joka was very, very good in this one.

701
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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you it's a couple of things. It's

702
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: third year in the league. That's a big part of it.

703
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: Another big part of it is Dalvin Tomlinson, right, and

704
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: what you're doing in the middle and you're keep you're

705
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: letting him free. The offensive line isn't able to get

706
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: their hands on him, and so he's able to knife

707
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: in and make plays. Anthony walker Back's been a big

708
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: part of that as well. I think the other thing

709
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Speaker 2: that's really cool is the combination of Joka and Delpit,

710
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: Like you've got some real playmakers in that back end.

711
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: Now that that Greek havoc like, these aren't just guys

712
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: holding positions like they create negative plays, big change plays

713
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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 3: No, you're exactly right, jok yesterday twelve tackles, two tackles

715
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Speaker 3: for loss, a sack, and a force fumble you had.

716
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: Delpit had another tackle for loss. He's been the team's

717
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 3: leading tackler all season long. So, yeah, you're exactly right

718
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 3: these guys, those two, and they play next to each

719
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 3: other a lot, because Delpit has really been kind of

720
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 3: a box safety and kind of playing linebacker in many

721
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: respects for the Cleveland Browns and has been doing an

722
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 3: excellent job of it. I thought, overall, you know, this

723
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: was that was one of the encouraging things in the defense.

724
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Speaker 3: You know, other than the early portion of the game.

725
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 3: You know, they were not able. They didn't do great there,

726
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 3: but I thought for the most part, they played pretty

727
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 3: well as that game went on. And I gotta tell you,

728
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 3: Zadari Smith, it's unbelievable to me that he only has

729
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: two and a half sex. He was He's touched the

730
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 3: quarterback I feel like twenty times this year. He was

731
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Speaker 3: all around Russell Wilson in this one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. And it's been that way all year

733
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Speaker 2: for him. Yeah. I mean the putt you just were

734
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: waiting up, you just terrified about Miles is the well

735
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to go back to a negative town.

736
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: But that's as you were talking about pass rush and

737
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: dynamic and all of those things like that's that's terrifying

738
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Speaker 2: to see him in a sling and and and we'll

739
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Speaker 2: see what the news is on that front. You mentioned

740
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 2: Cedric Tillman earlier. I mean, I don't think it's coincidence.

741
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: He's on with us on UH on Wednesday before before

742
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: Turkey Day and then breaks out. Dude breaks out. He's

743
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Speaker 2: a stud man. Great build, yes, great body, incredibly strong hands.

744
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: The ability to catch the ball and hold it away

745
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 2: from traffic and have the confidence to do so tells

746
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Speaker 2: you how how strong your hands are. I thought he

747
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Speaker 2: was a stud.

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Speaker 3: Five and it's going to be four catches for fifty

749
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Speaker 3: five yards. You've seen what he can do as a blocker.

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Speaker 3: I liked getting him incorporated into this passing game a

751
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 3: little bit more. And yeah, he made great plays and

752
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 3: obviously looked DTR is comfortable with him, and DTR threw

753
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 3: some very good balls to him.

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Speaker 4: And even the one in the.

755
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 3: End zone where Elijah you can't have two people competing

756
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: for the same ball in the back pylon. That's not

757
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 3: the that's not how good offenses. No design, I'm pretty

758
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 3: sure somebody went the wrong route on that. Well, Elijah

759
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: was just supposed to run just like a little hitch

760
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 3: at the front end line, but he saw the ball,

761
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 3: must have thought that he had a chance to go

762
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Speaker 3: get it, so he went there. But it was set

763
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 3: up for the slot fade to Tillman, who actually would

764
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Speaker 3: have had a chance on that ball. I think had

765
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: it all gone according to plan, But no, I like

766
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Speaker 3: Cedric yes encouraging from DT offensively.

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Speaker 4: DTR was very encouraging. I think Jerome Ford.

768
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 3: Runs so well, you know, Kareem runs so hard, but

769
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: you just you know that that play is going to

770
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 3: come to an end fairly quickly, right like there isn't,

771
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 3: yep the threat that he's going to take one to

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Speaker 3: the house. Jerome Ford certainly has that, and so does

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Speaker 3: Pierre Strong. Now, Pierre Strong's kind of been I liked

774
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 3: what I saw of him, and I feel like he's

775
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: been kind of completely phased out of the offense. You

776
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: give him one chance on a reverse and you know

777
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 3: that was a devastating play for the Cleveland Browns. But

778
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 3: you know Ford, it continues to impress me. I thought

779
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: DT are really from like the second and third quarters.

780
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: Was so good on those three drives, making big throws.

781
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 3: Tillman was encouraging as well. But it just goes back

782
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 3: to the drops man, like, we have got to catch

783
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: the football. It's hard enough to score in the NFL.

784
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: It's hard enough to get scheme guys open and then

785
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 3: have the protection and then deliver the football on time inaccurately.

786
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 3: For plays like that to not end up as successful

787
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: plays for the Cleveland Browns and instead to end up

788
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 3: his drops, that has got to be fixed. I don't

789
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 3: know what the solution is, because it almost feels like

790
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 3: it's one of those things that becomes maybe even a

791
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: more of a mental issue than even a physical one.

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Speaker 2: I just say that there there was a Chief drop,

793
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: the one in the end zone, it would have been

794
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: a tough catt both hands on at the balls perfect,

795
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: he's got both hands on it, like that's one you

796
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 2: have to catch, and it was able to get nudged

797
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 2: out and it ends up being a drop and Chief

798
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: looked down God bless him, and he like you know,

799
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: like looked at his gloves and I thought, okay, so

800
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: we've got a mental thing now with Chief. Now, the

801
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: last two games where he's thinking about this and this

802
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: can happen anybody. It can happen anybody, but it's right now.

803
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: He's in it where he's got a little bit of

804
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: the dropsies that and if there's anybody you trust get

805
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 2: out of it, it's him for sure. But it's there's

806
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: no question that it's there and it's it is something

807
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: that has to be acknowledged.

808
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: No doubt, no doubt. That's that's where you are, and

809
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 3: it's right. We're not going to be able to do

810
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 3: what we want while this remains an issue for us

811
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: throwing the football all right?

812
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: Where is uh? Where did you eat dinner? Saturday night?

813
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 2: There was a lot of talk about some giant Bison

814
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: prime rib place, and then there was U what did

815
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Speaker 2: you end up doing?

816
00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: We ended up going on Shelby Harris's recommendation. The He

817
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: gave the word to the to the luminaries, and so

818
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: I was I was able to tag along with the

819
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 3: luminaries and we went to a place called Guard and

820
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: Grace and it was one of the best meals. It

821
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Speaker 3: might be the best road trip meal I've ever had.

822
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,959
Speaker 3: It was that good. It was unbelievable.

823
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Speaker 2: I found that if there is something if a restaurant

824
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Speaker 2: his name has like two names like that. So you

825
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: said this was Guarden Grace, that's the name of this place. Yeah, okay, okay,

826
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: So there's a couple of them, Tony Gard, Troy Guard's

827
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: the owner. Denver and Houston are the two locations for

828
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: this one for this place. But like the the what

829
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Speaker 2: was the place in Minnesota? I loved the butcher and.

830
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Speaker 5: You could go back there in Houston then you baby,

831
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Speaker 5: oh baby, right, yeah, little little December twenty third, I'll have.

832
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Speaker 4: To I'll have to let you people know.

833
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Speaker 2: Oh it's a very nice menu. It's a very nice menu. Yeah,

834
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: just take a look at it right now.

835
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Speaker 4: And this was one of the few times we're weig.

836
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: Sure cooterie choices. Here a lot going on there.

837
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, the tasting like that.

838
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, let me guess you you had you had

839
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 2: the cowboy Ribbi, didn't you? Or did you do the

840
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: did they have a did they have a big guy?

841
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 3: So they have an even bigger guy that comes with

842
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: the bon the tomahawk.

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00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 4: Even no, I did that? Did you are you looking

844
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 4: at the price?

845
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: It's not on the menu. Oh, I would say that

846
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 2: tomahawk ribbe has got to be one twenty nine.

847
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 3: The Cowboys like one twenty nine Earth one thirty. The

848
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 3: Tomawk Ribbi was like one ninety five.

849
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 2: Oh come on, yeah, what did you get?

850
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 4: Actually you go?

851
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 3: So they they kindly said, why don't you handle apps

852
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 3: for the table? Which yeah, a group of like fifteen people. Okay,

853
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 3: I was thriving there.

854
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: So we have Yeah, you love that, like picking I

855
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: loved it.

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00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 4: We Yeah.

857
00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 3: They had a five wag u uh Gioza which awesome,

858
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: little halopano Hamachi Halapano. They have a spicy tune of

859
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 3: sushi roll that was incredible over like a stick of

860
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 3: crispy rice and it was like look like the shape

861
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 3: of any clare.

862
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 4: And there were a bunch of little one that was awesome.

863
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: We got the barado, we got the perscudo sampler, and

864
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 3: then a bunch of oysters.

865
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: It was delicious. And then for the.

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Speaker 3: Dinner I got, they had a trio of four ounce

867
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Speaker 3: file ats, grass fed prime and wag you I was.

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Speaker 2: I believe they call it a file at flight.

869
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 4: That's why a flight.

870
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: It was decades but you're not on vacation. Hey, it

871
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: was free. Just wait wait until the tails of this

872
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: week with your rich pretty m that you're gonna have

873
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: every night to eat whatever you want. Let's do the uh.

874
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: The AFC playoff picture if you would.

875
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 4: I hear Wendy's is delicious, especially.

876
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: In southern California. All Right, Ravens are currently the one seed.

877
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: The Chiefs are the two, Jacksonville, the three Dolphins, the

878
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: four Steelers, the five were the six, the Colts are

879
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 2: the seven. The three teams behind so the last three, uh,

880
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: the three wild cards are Steelers, US and Colts. The

881
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 2: three behind them are the Texans, the Broncos, and the Bills.

882
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: A Bill's heartbreak yesterday, It's hard for me to imagine

883
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: they can't they won't win some game. They played really

884
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: well and blew it yesterday in the In the game,

885
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: you've got a first hand look at the Broncos and

886
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: the Texans are rolling. I mean they they almost they

887
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 2: almost did it against Jacksonville at home. This is gonna

888
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: be ultra competitive. It does feel a little bit like,

889
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 2: especially with our injury situation in Pittsburgh, just their actual situation.

890
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: There's some smoke and meror stuff that's happened to this

891
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: point in the season to get to where we are,

892
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: and there's gonna need more.

893
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 3: Of it, Yes we are. And the Steelers schedule have

894
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: you looked at it?

895
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: I don't even want to think about.

896
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: It, can I tell you? Because it's gonna make you.

897
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: It's gonna right, go ahead, let's just gofiably upset.

898
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 2: Go ahead.

899
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: Home, Cardinals, come on home. Patriots, Oh my god, at Colts.

900
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 3: Now that could be Colts could give them some problems

901
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 3: home Bengals.

902
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: They got Bengals twice without Burrow yep.

903
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 3: At Seattle, at Baltimore. So if they're at seven, like

904
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 3: they're gonna win three of those. Cardinals, Patriots, Bengals all

905
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 3: at home, they're gonna win all three of those. Well,

906
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: could have beaten them Browning through that terrible red zone pick,

907
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: Like horrific red zone pick.

908
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said the you know, like we were doing

909
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: the scores last week and I'm like, I don't understand

910
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 2: how the Patriots are favored by three over anybody. And

911
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: then they lost to the Giants.

912
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 4: It was another good week. It was a good week

913
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 4: of the scores.

914
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: I think I'm eleven and four.

915
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 4: You're really good. Yeah?

916
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: Are you right in there?

917
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

918
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 2: We got to be right in there, just killing it.

919
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 3: You were like one off of you because I took

920
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 3: I went with my heart against the AFC North instead

921
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 3: of my brain.

922
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so yeah, I mean they're gonna Kyler

923
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: could be frisky for them, just because they're so they're

924
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 2: so bad offensively. Pittsburgh is yep, the Patriots, that's a bye. Yeah,

925
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: Bengals second game and that'll be a bye at home. Yeah,

926
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: they're gonna win ten games. I don't know how he

927
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: does it. Guy's a sorcerer, a sod offensive coordinator. I

928
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: don't know what he I don't understand it. It's unbelievable.

929
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 4: It's crazy. What they do when is outrageous.

930
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is. NFC looks like this. Eagles at

931
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: ten and one, forty nine, Ers are eight and three,

932
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: Lions eight and three, The Falcons are top the South

933
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 2: at five and six, for God's sake, and then the

934
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 2: Cowboys eight and three, Viking six and five, Seahawks six

935
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 2: and five, Packers five and six, Rams five and six.

936
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: Those last two. Watch out for the Packers as they

937
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: look pretty good and Jordan Love coming into his.

938
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 4: Own play nice.

939
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is. And the Rams really put it

940
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: on the Cardinals yesterday.

941
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Stafford looked great Kyron Williams came back for in

942
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 3: the fantasy world. That was like getting Marshall Fulk back

943
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 3: yesterday my NBC.

944
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: NBC learned a very tough lesson yesterday, Heart versus head.

945
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: So he has Kien Williams, Yes, right, he doesn't have

946
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 2: r So he just had to like keep him on

947
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 2: the roster.

948
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, so he did.

949
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: So he gets the news he's coming back, and he's

950
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: got to make a decision to and his decision was

951
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: between Jerome Ford and Kien Williams. And he goes dad,

952
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,959
Speaker 2: and he goes dad. The Broncos had the worst rush

953
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: defense in the league. Like, Jerome's going to go. And

954
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: I said, it's fair reasoning, son, I can't argue. I

955
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: understand it. I understand it. But the guy was a

956
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 2: dude before he got hurt.

957
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 4: Dude like Williams was a top five fantasy back.

958
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 3: And he comes back and puts up two hundred and

959
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 3: three total yards and two touchdowns, catches six balls. That's

960
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 3: what he does that Jerome doesn't do it. Yeah, you

961
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: gotta go. Fancy football is not for the heart. No,

962
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 3: you've got the rooting intra already. Fantsy football is for

963
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 3: the head.

964
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 2: Yep, you gotta gotta sort that out. He's gonna win anyway, though,

965
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: So it didn't.

966
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 4: Kill that well, now he knows Kyrone is a lock.

967
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah for sure. Yeah. Remember he's the one who

968
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 2: drafted Aaron Rodgers and ended up with Jordan Love and Kyler.

969
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: So it's all worked out just fine. Yeah, he's doing

970
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: just fine in this whole thing. But I tell you

971
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: that the back end, like there's separation that's happened now

972
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: in the league. In the a f C, the separation

973
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: has happened us and the Steelers are hanging on for

974
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: dear life with all of our injuries and their sorcery.

975
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 2: And then in the NFC, I mean the four at

976
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: the top are separate, and then it's a cliff and

977
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: of those NFC teams, like, how sustainable is it? From

978
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: Minnesota to me, Green Bay is the team to I'm

979
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: gonna be keeping an eye on of the five and six,

980
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 2: six and five teams in the NFC. Yeah, I keep

981
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: my eye Green Yeah.

982
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 3: I like, I really like what they're doing, and I like,

983
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 3: I'm with you. I think Love is good. The NFC

984
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 3: South is garbage. None of them are teams of consequence.

985
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 4: At all.

986
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 3: The Rams are all of a sudden frisky. This is

987
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 3: a big game, Like we're not huge. It's unfortunate for

988
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 3: us that we keep catching teams that we thought maybe

989
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 3: we're going to be out of it by the time

990
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 3: we played them that are somehow right on the cusp

991
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 3: when we do play them again.

992
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: Well, and there's going to be more of that with

993
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: our schedule. So we've got Rams this week. You still

994
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: have to play the Texans, you got to play the Jaguars, Jacks,

995
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: you got to play Baltimore. Like at one point you

996
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: looked at this schedule and you thought, okay, well you

997
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 2: can kind of cruise going home. But it's not that

998
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: way at all. This is going to get really frisky.

999
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 3: We need to win three more games, and you've got

1000
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 3: the Bears, Jets, and Bengals are probably the easiest three

1001
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: left on the schedule. Now, unless Aaron Rodgers is going

1002
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 3: to defy modern medicine and come back for no reason

1003
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: at all, which.

1004
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: He does that if he defies, then he did not

1005
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: rupture his achilles.

1006
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 4: I would agree with that.

1007
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: Then that's it. I'm not gonna have it any other way.

1008
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 3: But they're gonna be by the time they get to Us,

1009
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: They're currently four and seven.

1010
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 4: They go home Falcons.

1011
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: They could beat them Home Texans at Dolphins before they

1012
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: play US.

1013
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 4: They're gonna lose at least two of those games.

1014
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 2: Yes, I would agree. Tito's handmade Vona on game day,

1015
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1028
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: the Joe Thomas Half Hour of the program. So we've

1029
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 2: got a third of our team is in paradise in

1030
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills at some five star resort. Another third of

1031
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: our operation is back here in the frozen tundra, and

1032
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: then we have the other third, the hof third of

1033
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: the operation in some palatial estate, as I understand it,

1034
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: in Mexico. Huff, what are you doing right now? Feed up? Relaxing,

1035
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: Feed up.

1036
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 6: I am relaxing with just a small amount of stress though,

1037
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 6: because we were supposed to come home yesterday and there

1038
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,959
Speaker 6: was the major flight delays and problems, so we're stuck

1039
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 6: here till Tuesday. All I could find was, you know,

1040
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 6: a fleabag motel Iarta, so that's what we're staying. But

1041
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 6: I tell you what, it's eighty degrees, the sun's kind

1042
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 6: of shining. I'm still eating great Mexican food and drinking

1043
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 6: cheap Mexican beer, so all is not lost in spite

1044
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 6: of the flight delays.

1045
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: Huh is there is there an industry in the world

1046
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: worse than the airlines industry? Right now? There is no

1047
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: such thing as on time flights. It doesn't exist.

1048
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 6: I can't believe you got got yesterday. Oh man. Yesterday

1049
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 6: there's like three flights that were leaving perto Vyrta, and

1050
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 6: we had like four hours to catch our flight from

1051
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 6: Dallas to Madison, and the first message in the morning

1052
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 6: is your flight's delayed thirty minutes. Then like an hour later,

1053
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 6: your flight's been delayed an hour, an hour later, your

1054
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 6: flight's not delayed two hours. And it just kept happening

1055
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 6: for like four hours in a row, where they just

1056
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 6: kept delaying it. And basically I turned to my wife Annie,

1057
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 6: and I was like, this just means they have no

1058
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 6: idea when the plane is coming, it hasn't left, and

1059
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 6: they're just trying to make it hopeful enough where you

1060
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 6: don't cod totally rebook and then screw up somebody else's

1061
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 6: flight that you know, you're bumping the next group of

1062
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 6: people off.

1063
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 3: Half No no paradise village. They didn't want to welcome

1064
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 3: you back with open arms.

1065
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 6: Uh, well they would have, but the price was precipitously

1066
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 6: more expensive. Everyone left, so there's no way we were

1067
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 6: filling out a seven bedroom with just my family and

1068
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 6: sick I said, you know what, fight the bullet We'll

1069
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 6: spend a little bit more on Margarita's and Lagostina's and

1070
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 6: uh beautiful margaritas. So save money on the room, spend

1071
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 6: it on the food. In the drink.

1072
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 3: Genius, What was what was the best thing you guys

1073
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 3: ate we'd heard about the Thanksgiving spread before coming out

1074
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 3: of it?

1075
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 4: Was that was that the highlight?

1076
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 3: What was kind of because I gotta tell you, I

1077
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 3: love to see people that I love having pure joy

1078
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 3: and it felt like you were just living your absolute

1079
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 3: best life. And I couldn't agree with you more. You

1080
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: don't let the kids beat you until they beat you.

1081
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 3: They've got to earn that. That's got to be real.

1082
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 3: And I love that you kept dropping the hammer with

1083
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 3: clutch moments.

1084
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 6: Well, that's right, that's right. So there were the tons

1085
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 6: of amazing food options, Like when you're in Proavida, you're

1086
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 6: on the Madera space, so you just have an incredible

1087
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 6: amount of seafood, which is kind of my jam. So yeah,

1088
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 6: tons of lobster, tons of shrimp. They're known for their savice,

1089
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 6: so you did like a seafood tower savice which had

1090
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 6: everything you can imagine, oysters, scallops, shrimp, lobster, mahi mahi,

1091
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 6: fresh onions and carrots and tomatoes and cilantro and corn like.

1092
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 6: It was just also incredible. But it's kind of funny.

1093
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 6: The thing that sticks out in my head a little

1094
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 6: bit because I'd never eaten it before. Was this rice

1095
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 6: pudding that they made and they had it was kind

1096
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 6: of one of their local desserts. It was like sweet

1097
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 6: and condensed milk and they must have put some cream

1098
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 6: and some other like other creamy delicious sweetness in there,

1099
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 6: and then with the rice that they kind of slow

1100
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 6: cooked and reduced it. It was a really nice, like

1101
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 6: frozen ish treat after one of the dinners. It was

1102
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 6: something that I hadn't have, so it was great. But

1103
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 6: the time you go down here, you got to go

1104
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 6: to Old Dorado. I don't know if you've.

1105
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: Been there, of course, a little.

1106
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 6: Bit down from Cafe de Artist. We took the kids

1107
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 6: there last night's right at the beach. It was beautiful.

1108
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 6: They had these big, beautiful lanterns spread out on the

1109
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 6: beach wat.

1110
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 4: There every year. That's like, oh yeah, baby, right on

1111
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 4: the water.

1112
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 6: Yes, that was fantastic. I've never eaten there and we

1113
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 6: just kind of yeah, oh, it was amazing. So if

1114
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 6: anybody gets down there, Cafe Dertis still have yet to go,

1115
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 6: but a need's.

1116
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 4: Favorite place, We're gonna do it.

1117
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 6: And this aldo amazing, But I'm gonna maybe save Cafe

1118
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 6: dertyse till we get to go down there together.

1119
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 4: Oh, baby, I like it. That'll be elite.

1120
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, before we get to our game. The news

1121
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: of the day in the NFL, Frank Rake fired. This

1122
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 2: is the third straight year that an NFL coach has

1123
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 2: been fired in the middle of his season. That was

1124
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: something that of his first season, something that rarely ever

1125
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: happened before in the league. Uh, there's some browns on

1126
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: Brown's crime here. Josh McCown was fired as well in

1127
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: this he was the quarterback coach. Duce Staley has no

1128
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: connection obviously, but he was fired as well. Chris Tabor,

1129
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: who was our special teams coordinator from eleven to seventeen,

1130
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 2: will be the interim head coach off in Carolina. What

1131
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 2: do you make of that situation?

1132
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 4: So?

1133
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 6: I think Tabor, first of all, is going to do

1134
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 6: a great job. Everybody that was here in Cleveland with

1135
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 6: him realizes that he's so good at motivating the whole team, right.

1136
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 6: He's a higher energy guy. He sees the big picture,

1137
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 6: which is what you kind of have to be to

1138
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 6: be a good special teams coach. You got to be

1139
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 6: able to coach guys on offense, you got to be

1140
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 6: able to coach you guys on defense, and then of

1141
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 6: course he got your core special teamers guys. And so

1142
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 6: I think a lot of times that makes special teams

1143
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 6: coaches very well fit to be head coaches because they're

1144
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 6: used to coaching everybody, and they're used to having to

1145
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 6: motivate the bottom twenty guys in the roster. So I

1146
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 6: think he's going to do a good job as an

1147
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 6: interim coach. Whether he becomes a serious candidate to be

1148
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 6: the head coach, I'm not sure. I mean, I think,

1149
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 6: to my knowledge, John Harwall is the only special teams

1150
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 6: guy that's a head coach in the NFL. But I

1151
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 6: think this just goes to show that maybe David Tepper

1152
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 6: has no idea what he's doing. I mean, all accounts,

1153
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 6: they wanted Bryce Young and they basically forced it on

1154
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 6: Frank Reich, who throughout his entire career likes more of

1155
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 6: a big, tall, strong pocket path and quarterback allah CJ. Stroud,

1156
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 6: And that was kind of the word before the draft

1157
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 6: that he wanted CJ. Strodd. He didn't get him. He's

1158
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 6: the head coach, but of course it's his job to

1159
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 6: coach him up, and so the only thing that I

1160
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,479
Speaker 6: can think of is that they knew that he didn't

1161
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 6: want CJ. Stroud. He said, I'll coach him up, and

1162
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 6: then they saw early on the results were poor. And

1163
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 6: of course, if the owner wanted Bryce Young and the

1164
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 6: coach that he hired is not getting what he thinks

1165
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 6: out of Bryce Young should be gotten out of said quarterback,

1166
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 6: he's going to wipe them clean, whether it's his fault

1167
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 6: or not. And this is spell's bad news continued, and

1168
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 6: even worse bad news for Panthers fans when you have

1169
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 6: an ownership or an owner who's meddling and clearly has

1170
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 6: no idea what it takes to build a successful NFL franchise.

1171
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 4: Huh.

1172
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 3: Josh mcat was such a great guy when he was here,

1173
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 3: and obviously I was just surprised by that.

1174
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 4: I thought rank Reich it was going to happen.

1175
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 3: I could see how Staley when you watch some of

1176
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 3: the videos with him in his style, I could see

1177
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 3: that that rankling some feathers. But I don't know anybody's

1178
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 3: ever had a bad word to say about Josh mccounty

1179
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 3: understands the game very well. I was surprised by that.

1180
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 3: Were you surprised by that addition, even though maybe he

1181
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 3: was one who was saying, oh, I want Stroud and

1182
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 3: that caused the odds.

1183
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 4: I guess I was stunned by that. I'm stunned by that.

1184
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:29,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's shocking to me. I think potentially everybody knew

1185
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 6: that Frank Reich and Josh were super tight buddies. But

1186
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 6: I mean, let's think about what type of respect Josh

1187
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 6: McConn has in the NFL. I mean, he was getting

1188
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 6: legit head coaching offers for the Houston Texans when he

1189
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 6: wasn't even a coach in the NFL, Like people were saying, yeah,

1190
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 6: this guy has what it takes. He's got enough experience

1191
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 6: playing coaching just while he was on different rosters that

1192
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 6: he could step right in and be a head coach.

1193
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 6: So I think the reasoning got fired is because he

1194
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 6: was so intimately tied before and they know that maybe

1195
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 6: it would be potentially toxic having him in there, knowing

1196
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 6: that you know, he's a flank, great guy. But I

1197
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 6: think that also doesn't give Josh the credit as a

1198
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 6: professional that he deserves, knowing that he can still do

1199
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 6: his job really well even if his guy did get tired.

1200
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 6: I mean to me, that's kind of bs. But maybe

1201
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 6: that just speaks to the people that are pulling the strings,

1202
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 6: just having no idea how to manage the people that

1203
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 6: are in that building.

1204
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 2: Well remember remember McCown was stroud at the Pro day

1205
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 2: and they were all together embrace again. Yeah they know,

1206
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: yeah for sure, and they see Jay's was a ridiculous

1207
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 2: basketball player. Josh is, as you guys have told me

1208
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 2: many many times, like there's a ton of bond between there.

1209
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,439
Speaker 2: And I think this just comes down to, like, why

1210
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: isn't my guy look the way that guy looks you.

1211
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 2: That's on. You can't be on me. I can't possibly

1212
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,919
Speaker 2: be wrong. I own the team.

1213
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 4: I can't.

1214
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: It can't be my fault. I know what I'm doing.

1215
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 2: You guys don't. And it's just that simple, really, And

1216
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 2: he's the one with the big bank accounts, so we

1217
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 2: can It's his fourth coach, guys, Yeah, it's his fourth

1218
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 2: coach with that team. All right, we've put it off

1219
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 2: long enough. Off loss in Denver yesterday, we led the

1220
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 2: show with this. I think the headline as much as

1221
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 2: the result, Joe, to me, it's much more of the injuries.

1222
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 2: And we'll have a big press conference from Kevin in

1223
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 2: southern California at four o'clock. But man, oh man, this

1224
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 2: is these are on pins and needles moments for Browns fans.

1225
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: You're talking about Miles and Amari and dtr and in

1226
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 2: conjunction with everything else.

1227
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, Kevin Samanski deserves a lot of credit for holding

1228
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 6: this team together, finding ways to win. After you lose

1229
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 6: Nick Chubb at the end of the season, you lose

1230
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 6: Jack Conklin. I mean, you're losing the cornerstones of your

1231
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 6: team week after week, and at some point it's just

1232
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 6: impossible to continue to hold things together and look alike

1233
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 6: an NFL team that can compete. I mean, the Broncos

1234
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 6: will one of the hotter teams in the AFC coming

1235
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 6: into the game, and you felt like they kept it

1236
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 6: pretty close. But when you get down to a third

1237
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 6: ish string quarterback because dgr gets knocked out of the game,

1238
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 6: you know, you lose a Mara, You lose guys even

1239
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 6: going into the game in the secondary that had been

1240
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 6: a big part of why that defense is number one

1241
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 6: in the NFL. And then of course Miles gets baged up,

1242
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 6: which everybody knows. The conversation going into this game was

1243
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 6: he might be the MVP of the meet. He's been

1244
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 6: so dominant this it's just hard to continue to role

1245
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 6: different guys out there, and you always say that's the

1246
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 6: next man up mentality. You know, we don't change our

1247
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 6: expectations when the second team guy comes in, But how

1248
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 6: about the third team guy? How about the fourteen guy

1249
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 6: that just got here? Like at some point, it's just

1250
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 6: hard to continue to play good football when guys haven't

1251
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 6: been around very long and they're just not nearly as

1252
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 6: talented or impactful as the starter.

1253
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 3: It's wild, and you know, I have people are questioning this,

1254
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 3: questioning that. I don't know if people understand what it

1255
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 3: would be like if the Chiefs were without Travis Kelcey

1256
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 3: and Pat Mahomes.

1257
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 4: What would that offense look like? What did the Rams

1258
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 4: look like?

1259
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 3: Just when Stafford was out with Brett Rippen ended up

1260
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 3: getting him out of the league. It's a very tough thing.

1261
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 3: That's not Some make excuses. I thought, though Hoff from

1262
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 3: the from the second quarter through when DTR got knocked out,

1263
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 3: I really thought Kevin Stefanski had it cooking. We go

1264
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 3: on three straight scoring drives, all of them about sixty

1265
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 3: to eighty yards. DTR makes some big time throws. He

1266
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 3: had it working. You know, I was encouraged by that

1267
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 3: stretch of the game. We can't keep falling behind fourteen

1268
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 3: nothing on the road. But were you encouraged by that?

1269
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 3: And what did you see in DTR once he started

1270
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 3: getting it going.

1271
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 6: You know what I liked about DTR is you saw

1272
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 6: that when he's been playing with the lead or when

1273
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 6: the game is really close, obviously he realizes how good

1274
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 6: his defense is, so he doesn't want to make those mistakes.

1275
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 6: So he's not pushing the vault on the field. He's

1276
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 6: not taking some of those risks that all of a sudden,

1277
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 6: now you're a couple of scores behind, you feel like, okay,

1278
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 6: I gotta do something to get a bat in this game.

1279
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 6: So your mindset switches a little bit, where now the

1280
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 6: number one read is Amari down the field. You're gonna

1281
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 6: let it rip even though there's maybe not a big window.

1282
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 6: And we saw that happening, and we saw that he

1283
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 6: was having some success with it right, and that gave

1284
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 6: us all lot of hope. And what I think could

1285
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 6: be really big is if that delt a little confidence

1286
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 6: in DTR, like, hey, I can make those shows down

1287
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 6: the field. Even when it is a close game or

1288
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 6: even when I am winning, because I am the type

1289
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 6: of quarterback that can win the game, not just the

1290
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 6: type of quarterback who will not lose it because he's

1291
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 6: got a great defense. And so to me, that was

1292
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 6: really encouraging. I agree with you, Haf.

1293
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 2: Is there a a I mean, he's in the protocol.

1294
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 2: Now you got Flacco here, If you're Stefanski, is there

1295
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 2: a drop dead date in terms of if DTR isn't

1296
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 2: a full practice participant by here, we've got to go

1297
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 2: with Flacco.

1298
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 6: I would say Friday usually is that day because that's

1299
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 6: the day where you review everything, and a guy, especially

1300
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 6: a young player like DTR, like he has to have

1301
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 6: that Friday because one, you have red zone, which is

1302
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 6: your most important situation in the game, and Browns have

1303
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 6: not been great with DTR in the red zone. Two,

1304
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 6: you're going back over all your checks for the week

1305
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 6: in normal down and distance. So if you have a

1306
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 6: lot of check with me, is if you have a

1307
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 6: lot of situations where I hey, if this is a

1308
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 6: one high safety versus a two high safety, I want

1309
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 6: you to check into this look and getting that rep

1310
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 6: doing those things where you're communicating not only with your

1311
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 6: center so he can communicate to the offensive lineman, but

1312
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 6: to the guys on the outside. You need to understand, Hey,

1313
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 6: what's the play? How does that change my responsibility? Do

1314
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 6: I have to push crack the safety? Or am I

1315
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 6: running a look slant now? Where? If it's there, we'll

1316
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 6: take it because there's a gap when the defense does that.

1317
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 6: I think a younger player who doesn't have a lot

1318
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 6: of experience, they have to have that day because if

1319
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 6: they don't have that day, there's no way they can

1320
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 6: go out and have any level of success in any

1321
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 6: game plan type thing. And really, all you're going to

1322
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 6: be doing is calling like a game you would see

1323
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 6: in the preseason, which is why he struggled when he

1324
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 6: had to step in for Deshaun against the Ravens. Yep,

1325
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 6: he just he needs that time, right, I mean, like

1326
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 6: Joe Flacko is a guy, he's seen enough stuff that

1327
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 6: he can be those mental reps and close his eyes

1328
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 6: and it's just as good as doing it with your arm.

1329
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 6: But dtr has got to have it by Friday, I

1330
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 6: would think, and you know even more you'd want them

1331
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 6: obviously probably Thursday. But it's tough when you're dealing with

1332
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 6: a concussion.

1333
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 4: It is tough.

1334
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 3: And I think that's a very daunting situation that's facing

1335
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns right now, right because I think you

1336
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 3: might have to go to Joe Flacco here, who just

1337
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 3: joined your team a week ago.

1338
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 4: You think about all the guys that you know.

1339
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 3: It's like a throwback, you know, Kareem Hunt comes in

1340
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 3: after a few weeks. Joe Flacco now is going to

1341
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 3: play for the Browns potentially, which would be insane to

1342
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 3: even think about. But that's where this team is right now.

1343
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you though, it doesn't really matter who

1344
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 3: the quarterback is. If we you can't catch the ball.

1345
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 3: We're dropping almost ten percent of our passes that are

1346
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 3: on target. They're dropping twelve percent of dtrs. What's going on?

1347
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 3: How do we fix this?

1348
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 6: Yeah? The pass drop things aren't always a real mystery

1349
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 6: to me. And I don't know if there is any

1350
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 6: magic bullet there other than it seems like they come

1351
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 6: in bunches. I don't know why. Maybe it's a competent thing.

1352
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 6: Maybe it's one of those things where you see it

1353
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 6: happen to other guys and you tighten up a little bit.

1354
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 6: And that's happening to you. I mean, and Djoku throughout

1355
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 6: his career has had drops, but all of a sudden,

1356
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 6: he has the big week last week where he dropped

1357
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 6: a bunch and then drops a couple this time. Now

1358
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 6: they become like cancer, right, like everybody's catching them, like

1359
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 6: it's some type of disease. He got. Guy that's Amari

1360
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 6: Cooper never drops passes right drops the two point conversion

1361
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 6: in the back of the end zone. So I don't know,

1362
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 6: I mean, the only thing that I could say that

1363
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 6: is they, hey, maybe there's a reset, and that reset

1364
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 6: could be a different quarterback come in there, a Flacco

1365
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,959
Speaker 6: who's more of a down the field deep ball guy

1366
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 6: than a dink and dunk guy, like a PJ. Walker

1367
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 6: or a DTR and just having sometimes those more difficult

1368
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 6: down the field throws, guys stop thinking about catching the

1369
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 6: ball and it becomes natural again. Right, how many times

1370
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 6: do you see yep and joke who make the spectacular

1371
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 6: but the easy ones are the hard one, Right, You

1372
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 6: have too much time, it's too easy think about the

1373
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 6: catch versus thinking about the contact and where your feet

1374
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 6: are falling out of bounds, or you know, just doing

1375
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 6: things instinctually. So I don't know if that's what you

1376
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 6: want to say, Yeah, let's go with Flacco just because

1377
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 6: of this, but that could be one of the unforeseen

1378
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 6: benefits if Flaco does play in that game.

1379
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 2: Joe, you've been in this situation quite a bit in

1380
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 2: your career, unfortunately, where a guy comes in, he's been

1381
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 2: in the operation for a couple of weeks and he's

1382
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 2: got to start a game. What is if it is

1383
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 2: Flacco Sunday, what is reasonable to expect and what are

1384
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 2: the biggest challenges for a guy coming into a situation

1385
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 2: like he could be coming into on Sunday.

1386
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 6: I think the biggest challenge is not necessarily the offense,

1387
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 6: because the guy like him, who's played in a couple

1388
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 6: different places and it has a ton of experience, is

1389
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 6: going to have seen most of the concepts that he's

1390
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 6: got to run, right, So it's pretty easy, right, Like

1391
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 6: they're going to pick the offense up quickly. If the

1392
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 6: language and the terminology is much different, you can always

1393
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 6: give him a wristband and then it's just almost like

1394
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 6: having Google Translate on your arm, Like, Okay, I know

1395
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 6: it definitely is. That's you know, the sticky slant that

1396
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 6: reminds me of you know, school bus or something like that.

1397
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 6: I think the challenge is going to be meshing with

1398
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 6: your different pass catchers because everybody's going to run out

1399
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 6: just a little bit differently. But also everybody wants the

1400
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 6: ball in different places. You know, maybe David and Joku

1401
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 6: likes him a little bit higher in the back line

1402
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 6: when he's running some of the back line routes in

1403
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 6: the red zone. Maybe Amari Cooper he likes it low

1404
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 6: and outside, even when he's a little bit on top

1405
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 6: of a receiver when he's running a go route on

1406
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 6: the sideline. You know, one of the other receivers likes

1407
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 6: something a little bit low in a way because that's

1408
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 6: where he feels more comfortable. And so I think getting

1409
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 6: that stuff and hitting in practice is a little bit

1410
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 6: difficult because you just don't have enough time and enough

1411
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 6: reps to be able to get that. And so you're

1412
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 6: going to, hopefully on Friday, after you go through all

1413
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 6: the game plans, have the quarterback sit down with those

1414
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 6: guys and say, all right, here's the routes we're definitely

1415
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 6: going to get right. Here's the opening fifteen plays. Here's

1416
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 6: the next fifteen concepts that we think we're going to

1417
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:33,759
Speaker 6: see on third down, right, because in the game plan script,

1418
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 6: the coach is going to write write down our third

1419
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 6: and five plus pass routes. Here's the top ones we like,

1420
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 6: and then they're going to talk about, Okay, this is

1421
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 6: the coverage we expect to get. You're my number one guy,

1422
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 6: Amaro on this one. How do you like this ball?

1423
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 6: If you get this cover? So if you get covered too, right,

1424
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 6: and so you're going to try to go through as

1425
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 6: many of those things as possible, But still there's just

1426
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 6: a little bit of a learning curve. Even a guy

1427
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 6: with experience like Jill, it really helps having those legit

1428
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 6: reps in practice to feel exactly what those guys want

1429
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 6: out of you as the quarterback.

1430
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 4: Could be incredible.

1431
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 3: Could I thought this would be a year where the

1432
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 3: Browns had one starting quarterback, could potentially have four by

1433
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 3: week twelve of the twenty twenty three season. Right now,

1434
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 3: they're trying to chase how many play by play guys

1435
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 3: I've worked with? How many quarterbacks could the Browns get?

1436
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 3: How many play by play guys?

1437
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 2: What's the greater number?

1438
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 4: Right now? It's play by play where it's season yeah

1439
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 4: right now?

1440
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 3: And I don't know, if we get to six different

1441
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 3: starting quarterbacks by the end of the year, we don't

1442
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 3: want to do that. Uh ho, Miles now the talk

1443
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 3: maybe he's got a shoulder injury. He was in a

1444
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 3: sling after the game, and you saw some of the

1445
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 3: videos where Garrett Bowles was able to kind of just

1446
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 3: kind of get him and he couldn't fight back with

1447
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 3: that left arm. I feel like, we know it's not

1448
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 3: good to be a one legged person in a butt

1449
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 3: kicking contest. Is it tough to be a pass rusher

1450
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 3: with one functional arm? If that's where we're at with

1451
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett.

1452
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 6: Of course, and if he's rushing over the left tackle,

1453
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 6: his left arm is his most important arm because that's

1454
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 6: the arm that's closest to the offensive tackle, and that's

1455
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 6: usually the arm where you're you know, if you're going

1456
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 6: to give him a one arm stab, you know, the

1457
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 6: kind of thing that looks like a stiff arm. That's

1458
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 6: the arm you're putting pressure on if you're trying to

1459
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,440
Speaker 6: dip and rip. That's the arm that's coming up underneath

1460
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 6: the offensive tackle hands and pads where you're trying to

1461
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 6: lift them and pull yourself through. So really that's probably

1462
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 6: his most important arm when you're considering a right defensive

1463
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 6: end rushing over the left tackle. So depending on where

1464
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 6: that arm is, where the strength is, where the lack

1465
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 6: of strength is. I wouldn't be surprised if they moved

1466
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 6: him a little bit more on the right side next week,

1467
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 6: if they felt like they could get him out there

1468
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 6: to play, just because he'll be a little bit more

1469
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 6: effective using that right arm, and the left arm isn't

1470
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 6: quite as important when you are rushing over the offense,

1471
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 6: is right.

1472
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 3: That's a good note. That's good to see. That's that's

1473
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 3: the good That's not stuff right.

1474
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: There, we're in I think we're aren't.

1475
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 4: We like it.

1476
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 2: We've paid our penalties right with the injury less like

1477
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 2: we need some good news on Miles here. Like, I

1478
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm not sure how much more of this

1479
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 2: we can take off. I mean, everybody, it's just been

1480
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 2: too damn much. I mean, you can have something happened

1481
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,879
Speaker 2: to Miles here, it's just been I just think beyond

1482
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 2: the fact that he's been maybe the best position player

1483
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 2: in football this year, I don't even know if that's

1484
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 2: a stretch to say that there's been anybody that's on

1485
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 2: his level beyond that, just the mental gut punch. It

1486
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 2: would be if he misses time like he's been the fuel,

1487
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 2: I don't know how you recover from that if it's

1488
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 2: him too, Joe.

1489
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't really know if there's anybody else that

1490
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 6: you can say has been more impactful, even close on

1491
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 6: this team that has kept us in every game, because really,

1492
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 6: without him, your defense is good, but it's not great

1493
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 6: because being able to have that coverage and then allow

1494
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:58,679
Speaker 6: that passers to get there, it's changed every single offense

1495
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 6: that we play again because even though they know that

1496
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 6: he's double teams, they still only have three seconds to

1497
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 6: get rid of the football. So you can't call any

1498
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 6: of your stuff that's deeps down the field unless you're

1499
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 6: just taking your quarterback and running him on a blue

1500
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 6: leg to the right away from Miles, which we saw

1501
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 6: that in the game. He still gets there right the

1502
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 6: play where Russell scrambles outside of the pocket to the right,

1503
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:23,719
Speaker 6: Miles is double teams. Russell Wilson almost gets the first

1504
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 6: down as Miles is tackling him from behind. So he's

1505
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 6: really been the guy that has changed how an offense

1506
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 6: tries to attack a defense by how incredibly dominant he

1507
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 6: is because one, you have to use two of your

1508
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 6: resources on every play, whether it's a garden a tackle,

1509
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 6: or a tight end and a tackle, or a running

1510
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 6: back and a tackle. And it also shortens the amount

1511
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 6: of deep routes you can run. And so when he's

1512
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 6: not in there, yeah, you still have great secondary. Yeah

1513
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 6: you still have guys that can get to the quarterback,

1514
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 6: but your defense changes and the offenses all of a

1515
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 6: sudden get a lot more bold with the amount of

1516
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 6: deep rows that they can have on you. And eventually,

1517
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 6: if you're allowed to get seven throws down the field,

1518
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 6: there's enough good quarterbacks and pass catchers in the NFL,

1519
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 6: they're going to hit a couple of those. And that's

1520
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 6: a lot of times. All it takes a couple explosive

1521
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 6: plays on offense. There could be ten points. There could

1522
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 6: be fourteen points right there. That's a huge difference in

1523
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,959
Speaker 6: a game. I mean, the game wasn't all that close yesterday.

1524
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 6: But if the Browns get too big exposed plays, you win.

1525
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 3: That's yes. And think about the Indie game. I mean,

1526
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 3: there it is. That's what this team is trying to do.

1527
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 3: How do you did you ever do anything like this

1528
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 3: in your career. I know that I haven't done anything

1529
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 3: like this since I've been with the Browns where we

1530
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 3: went for a week.

1531
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 4: Did you ever do anything like that?

1532
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 6: No, we never did. The only time we did something

1533
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 6: a little different was a couple of times playing on

1534
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 6: the West Coast, we would go out a day earlier

1535
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 6: to try to get acclimated to the time change and

1536
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 6: stuff like that. I didn't really think it had that

1537
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 6: much of the benefit, But being out there for a week,

1538
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 6: I don't know. I've never excused it, so I'm not

1539
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 6: exactly sure. I think, just like anything in the world,

1540
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 6: there's a placebo effect that if you as a team

1541
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 6: believe a lot of the things that your coach is

1542
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 6: telling you, and then he says, hey, guys, this is

1543
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 6: going to be a huge advantage for us staying out

1544
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 6: here during the week, you're gonna believe it's true, and

1545
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 6: then hey, there's no difference between you believing that something's

1546
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,640
Speaker 6: gonna help you and something actually helps you. So I

1547
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 6: don't know. It'll be just to see what the guys

1548
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 6: think of it after the game's over, and it'll probably

1549
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 6: be mostly dictated by did they play well? Did you win?

1550
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 6: Then it was a great idea.

1551
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. It's mentally, how do you as a

1552
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 2: VET and we have obviously a lot of vets on

1553
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 2: our team, is it is this like another kind of

1554
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 2: training camp vacation. How do you I mean, you're so

1555
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 2: used to this routine of going home to your bed

1556
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 2: and you get in late at night and that's what

1557
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 2: you do. How do you how would you deal with

1558
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 2: this someone of yourself who was such a routine man.

1559
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love routine. That's why as much as I

1560
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 6: love still being in Mexico here for day eight, I'm

1561
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 6: like really excited to get home to a routine, right,

1562
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 6: But I think that's just what happens is you get older, right,

1563
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 6: you just value having that routine. And I'm sure if

1564
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 6: you ask Joel, maybe he's like grumpy and like that whatever.

1565
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 6: You know, I'd rather be at home where I could

1566
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 6: just go sleep my own bed and get into my

1567
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 6: normal routine of the week. But I think that they'll

1568
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:24,719
Speaker 6: quickly get into the routine of a normal ish week

1569
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 6: being out in La just having the normal schedule. Yeah,

1570
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 6: you're going to go back to a hotel, but I

1571
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 6: think by the second day you'll you'll be kind of

1572
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 6: like Hey, you know what, this isn't actually that bad

1573
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 6: because I can get home at night and then I

1574
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 6: don't have any of the normal good distractions of being

1575
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 6: home with family and dealing with whatever things you have.

1576
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 6: You know, got a bowl lawn or you got to

1577
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 6: pay the painter or whatever else you get when you're

1578
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 6: at home, got to go to the grocery store for

1579
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 6: the wifey, go get some more diapers for the kids,

1580
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 6: and just having a little bit extra time to chill out,

1581
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 6: lay in bed, watch TV, you know, maybe play some

1582
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 6: cards with somebodies. So I think they'll find this interesting

1583
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:07,640
Speaker 6: enough and it's unique enough that but probably appreciated and

1584
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 6: enjoy it. I'm sure if you did it three or

1585
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 6: four times during the year, it would probably get old.

1586
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 4: Huff.

1587
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 3: Is there something to the notion that the Browns, you know,

1588
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 3: beat the Ravens in dramatic fashion. You think you got

1589
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 3: Deshaun Cook in fourteen to fourteen, we're gonna go win

1590
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 3: it all. Then Wednesday he's out. The team gets up,

1591
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 3: You have this unbelievably emotional day at First Energy Stadium

1592
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 3: or cleveand Brown Stadium, now and you beat the Steelers,

1593
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 3: do something you hadn't done ever beat the Ravens and

1594
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 3: Steelers back to back weeks, and then it's Thanksgiving, which

1595
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 3: I don't know if for the players it feels like

1596
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 3: an od week, but for me and bo, I'm sure

1597
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 3: you felt this way too. Yeah, Tuesday were at the

1598
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 3: food bank. Thursday and Friday we weren't in the building

1599
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 3: at all. We felt I felt kind of very disconnected

1600
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 3: from the team, and then you know, you had to

1601
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 3: go on the road that week. I think it's definitely

1602
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 3: an advance for teams to be at home during Thanksgiving

1603
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 3: week you have to go on the road, and you

1604
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 3: did get off to a slow start.

1605
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 4: Now it would be if it was the only time

1606
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 4: we did.

1607
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 3: Maybe there's more to it, but it felt to me

1608
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 3: from afar not being in them asking you to take

1609
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 3: this kind of inside. What's that week like and is

1610
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 3: are you able to prepare the same, especially if you're

1611
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 3: coming off of a couple of really emotional wins and

1612
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 3: then having to go on the road on a holiday week.

1613
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,719
Speaker 6: There's no doubt that the season is exhausting and every

1614
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 6: week has different challenges. Certainly, the Thanksgiving week is unique

1615
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 6: and it does have different challenges that the other weeks

1616
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 6: don't for me, the usual schedule during Thanksgiving was everything

1617
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 6: was normal until the day of Thanksgiving, and then what

1618
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,719
Speaker 6: you did, you'd come in an hour earlier, so instead

1619
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 6: of having to be at the facility at let's say seven,

1620
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 6: it'd be there at six, and then you would do

1621
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 6: a normal day off until lunch, which basically meant you

1622
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 6: do everything you normally do until practice is over, which

1623
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 6: practice would now finish around lunchtime, and instead of sticking

1624
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 6: around and having your treatment, having your and then having

1625
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 6: your hour of team film review and meetings, you would

1626
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 6: just go home, so you were done by like one ish,

1627
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 6: so you can go home, you could do your Thanksgiving stuff,

1628
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 6: and then the next day you came in an hour

1629
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 6: earlier and then you would review the film from the

1630
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 6: day before, and then you'd get your weightlifting, and then

1631
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:20,679
Speaker 6: you'd just stay a little bit later on that Friday,

1632
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 6: so really you got everything in, but you just kind

1633
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 6: of moved it up on Thursday a little bit earlier,

1634
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 6: and then on Friday you just had to do a

1635
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 6: little bit more to make up for Thursday, so you

1636
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 6: still got all your work in. It did feel a

1637
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 6: little bit different, but I think one difference and one

1638
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 6: thing I really liked about Thanksgiving versus like maybe Christmas.

1639
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 6: During the season was because you are only getting half

1640
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 6: a day off. You're only getting Thursday afternoon off, and

1641
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 6: it's Thursday versus the weekend. You a lot of times

1642
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 6: don't have a lot of people that are coming in

1643
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 6: town to visit and celebrate, like on a Thursday, because

1644
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 6: people are still working in a lot of times they

1645
01:18:58,479 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 6: want to come in for the game, so they'll come

1646
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 6: in maybe Saturday Sunday to celebrate Thanksgiving. And so we

1647
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 6: a lot of times had friends Givings where you know,

1648
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 6: I'd have the tight ends and the offensive linement over

1649
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,600
Speaker 6: to my house, and my wife loved to cook and

1650
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 6: she could cook all day. And so you ended up

1651
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:16,959
Speaker 6: getting to spend Thanksgiving a lot of times with your teammates,

1652
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 6: which was really cool because for most of the other

1653
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 6: holidays you got fends and family in town for the game,

1654
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 6: and which is great you get just spit it with them.

1655
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 6: But I think we really bonded over Thanksgiving, probably more

1656
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 6: than any other holiday. And it didn't feel like the

1657
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 6: schedule was too disruptive to kind of mess things up

1658
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 6: where you would feel like disjointed or unprepared. Compared to

1659
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 6: how you normally feel by the time game they started.

1660
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 2: Hof, we said, before this trip, you got to get

1661
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 2: one of these two, right, you got to get Denver,

1662
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 2: you got to get the Rams. You got to be

1663
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 2: eight and five. It's starting to get crowded at the

1664
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 2: bottom of the AFC. Must win. You can't put that

1665
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 2: on anything. We've got a mash unit here, but pretty critical.

1666
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 2: And it should be a home game, right, I mean

1667
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 2: Browns fans in southern California. I mean they're gonna be

1668
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 2: a ton of them in that game, right, Hoff.

1669
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, it should be kind of a home game there,

1670
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 6: which will definitely help. And I think that could really

1671
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 6: help a lot of times when I go on the

1672
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 6: road and all of a sudden I see all these

1673
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 6: brown fans in a normally expected hostile environment, it does

1674
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 6: give you a boost where you're like, heck, yeah, man,

1675
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 6: we have these awesome fans. We're so excited to be

1676
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 6: out here cheering for these guys. Like a lot of times,

1677
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 6: such a guys on defense would find those little sections

1678
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 6: of brown sands because it seems like there's sections. I

1679
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 6: don't know why that shakes out the way that does.

1680
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 6: Because the ticket bills and such. But they'd go over

1681
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 6: there before the game and throw the ball to them

1682
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:34,560
Speaker 6: and they'd get them hyped up. And I think that

1683
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 6: gives you a little extra spunk and personality because as

1684
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 6: energy going into those games and just knowing too, for

1685
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 6: the player's standpoint, that you've got all these injuries, you

1686
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 6: know a lot of people are kind of counting you out.

1687
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 6: I could really motivate you as a pro athlete. It's

1688
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 6: really easy to find that chip on your shoulder. I

1689
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 6: mean that was the Patriots' best thing that they did

1690
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 6: every year, right every week was like nobody believe you. Yeah,

1691
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 6: for nobody believes in us. We think you know. That

1692
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 6: was like what motivated them every single week. And I

1693
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 6: think the Browns could find a little bit of that

1694
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 6: with all the injuries they have going on the road,

1695
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 6: but still having like a bunch of loyal fans that

1696
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 6: are going to be out there for the game and

1697
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 6: understanding how important this one is for season.

1698
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:23,679
Speaker 2: HUF. Happy flight whenever you get out of there, buddy,

1699
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:27,679
Speaker 2: Best of luck on your travels. Thank you for your time, sir.

1700
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 6: Appreciate it. Guys, We will talk to you later.

1701
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 4: Come back come home.

1702
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 2: He might just stay come to La to heck with it.

1703
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 4: Stay shorter flight from Porta Bayarta certainly.

1704
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, quite a bit.

1705
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 4: Uh.

1706
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Speaker 2: more at ww dot Rumkey dot com. Boy, it's wild.

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01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 2: What's happening in the NFL? We had a wild weekend

1720
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 2: at college football as well. The rivalry game certainly delivered drama. Uh,

1721
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 2: if not for most in the great state of Ohio.

1722
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 2: Not necessarily a good Saturday afternoon. The boys were in tears,

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01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 2: I mean just a mess.

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01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what's you know?

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01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 3: I know that you are a man with a great

1726
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 3: many gigs and authority on a great many things. What's

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01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 3: how how was that handled today? How's how's every well

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01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 3: feeling here on?

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01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 6: Not?

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01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 4: Well?

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01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 2: Not well? There's look you got you're talking about a

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01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 2: two year period where everything revolves around that game because

1733
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 2: you lost in twenty one after a streak of winning it,

1734
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 2: you know, eight straight times, and so the idea that

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01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 2: you would now be in a situation you've lost three

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01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 2: in a row. And the other thing here for the

1737
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 2: from the Buckeyes perspective is they will never have this

1738
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:31,719
Speaker 2: opportunity again for a lot of reasons. So next year,

1739
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 2: if this game is played, they will play this week too,

1740
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 2: So you will play the game and you'll play for

1741
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,719
Speaker 2: the Big Ten Championship the next week. So the idea

1742
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 2: of a winner take all the game that ends that

1743
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 2: ended Saturday, So you'll never have that again. These two

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01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 2: teams next year, if they were to go into this

1745
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 2: game eleven and zero, they would both play next week

1746
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 2: in the Big Ten Championship game. They would both then

1747
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 2: be among the twelve teams in the College Football Playoff.

1748
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 2: So the urgency to it is gone. So one hundred

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01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 2: and nineteen years of history ended Saturday. It will be different,

1750
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 2: it will be less going forward. There's it's impossible to

1751
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 2: argue that it will not be changed for the worse

1752
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 2: in terms of the importance on that game. The other

1753
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 2: thing was is for Harbaugh, it's like three wins in

1754
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 2: one because it validates it validates what happened the last

1755
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 2: two years because there was no sign stealing here. Hell,

1756
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 2: he wasn't even on the side with the one. He

1757
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 2: wasn't even there. So it validates the fact that he

1758
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 2: has the pre eminent program in the Big ten. He's

1759
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 2: got the dominant program in the Big ten, and they're

1760
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 2: gonna play in the playoff for the third straight year

1761
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 2: and and and that's going to happen. So for Ryan Day,

1762
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 2: with a win, he would have invalidated the previous two losses.

1763
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 3: So that's that's were massive. It's the biggest mistakes have.

1764
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 2: Been in the Yeah, because of the off field stuff.

1765
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 2: So there was you know one versus two and o

1766
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 2: six that was winner go to the National Championship, loser doesn't,

1767
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 2: So that one had on field stakes, But this one

1768
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 2: had a ton of layers. Proas this had pro program yeah,

1769
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,679
Speaker 2: and you could have buried Michigan because they've got three

1770
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 2: or four NCAA investigations that are happening on their campus.

1771
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 2: So if they had lost this game. And by the way,

1772
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 2: most people up there think Harbaugh is done after this

1773
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 2: year anyway, No matter what, he'll go to the NFL

1774
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 2: and there will be a lot of opportunity for him

1775
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 2: to do so. So this was your last chance to

1776
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 2: bury Harbaugh and you blew it, and quite frankly were

1777
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 2: they were out coached. Michigan coach fearlessly they did. Shiron

1778
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 2: Moore was unbelievable the way he coached that game, and

1779
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 2: Ryan Day coached pretty passive. It was stunning because the

1780
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 2: last thing you saw was the way they played against

1781
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 2: Georgia and you thought, well, that's he had talked all

1782
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 2: off season. Now that's how he was going to coach

1783
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 2: the Michigan game.

1784
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 3: Anymoy It's pretty incredible to think that c. J. Stroud,

1785
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 3: who was going to be the rookie of the Year

1786
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:52,600
Speaker 3: in the NFL, and that Marvin Harrison. I believe I

1787
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 3: saw somebody with great insight and intelligence saying, yeah, neither

1788
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 3: of them will have a pair of gold pants. That

1789
01:25:57,920 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 3: is crazy to me.

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01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah they haven't. Well, yeah, I mean that's obviously a

1791
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 2: brilliant person who brought that to the attention. Yes, the

1792
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:09,679
Speaker 2: uh yeah, you know they used in the at the time,

1793
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 2: the end of Trestle and through Urban I mean they

1794
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 2: handed out gold pants like candy canes at Christmas. You

1795
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 2: get a gold pants, you get a gold pants. Yeah,

1796
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,719
Speaker 2: you got four. I remember talking to a former linebacker

1797
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 2: who played there on the on the fourteen team, Joshua Perry,

1798
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 2: and I'm like, who's got your gold pants? He's like,

1799
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 2: my wife's got one, my mom's got one pair, my

1800
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 2: niece has a pair. Like you everybody gets them, right,

1801
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 2: Like that's what it was like for the longest prime Yeah. Right.

1802
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 2: The one thing I will say is, and this is

1803
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,839
Speaker 2: the biggest difference the end of Trestle and the beginning

1804
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 2: of Meyer. So there's like a seven or eight year

1805
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 2: period there where Michigan is not a serious program. I mean,

1806
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 2: it's Rich Rodriguez, it's Brady Hoke. They're not They're running.

1807
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 2: I mean they just weren't serious. Harbaugh should have been broke.

1808
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 2: He thought we thought he was broken in sixteen, should

1809
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 2: have been everybody thought he's broken. In eighteen. He's got

1810
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 2: a real program now, like they believe in. It took

1811
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 2: him a while to get it right. He's a great coach,

1812
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 2: he wins everywhere he goes. And the Michigan team that

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01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 2: Ryan Day is coaching against, it's a real program. It's

1814
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 2: a big time top five program in the country. That's

1815
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 2: not what they were for half of Tressel and most

1816
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 2: of Urban correct and so he's competing with something that

1817
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 2: those guys didn't all the time.

1818
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 3: Is it fair to say that most Buckeye fans And

1819
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 3: I know because I've asked this question to Michigan fans

1820
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 3: and some Buckeye fans and they all say yes. But

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01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 3: I'm curious if you think that is representative of a

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01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,440
Speaker 3: deep level of psychosis or if this is more representative

1823
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 3: of the broader fan base that given that they've been

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01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 3: eleven in one this year, right, is that what it's

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01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 3: going to end up at?

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01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 4: Something like that?

1827
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're eleven to one right now.

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01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, eleven in one, And like I mean, there are

1829
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 3: a lot of things that have to happen, but likely

1830
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 3: the end of their competitive season is here.

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01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, iking go over quickly. What needs to happen, They

1832
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 2: need Georgia to win out. They need Washington to win out.

1833
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,719
Speaker 2: They obviously need Michigan to win out. They need Oklahoma

1834
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 2: State to beat Texas, and they need Louisville to beat

1835
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 2: Florida State. So if those things happen, they would be

1836
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 2: the fourth in the playoff.

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01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 3: Okay, let's just say that you go eleven and one

1838
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 3: and don't make the playoff, and everybody asked that they

1839
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 3: would rather go they would rather go one and eleven

1840
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 3: and have that win be in the big game if

1841
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 3: they're not making the playoff and go right in one,

1842
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 3: lose the big game and not make the playoff.

1843
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's that game. It just has And that's

1844
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 2: what you just described is gone now because right it

1845
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 2: won't matter, it'll matter, but you're gonna you could play

1846
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 2: them again this week. Next year, they would run it

1847
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 2: right back and they would play for the Big Ten

1848
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 2: championship at Indy, and then it's possible they could play

1849
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 2: for a third time because both of them make the

1850
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,759
Speaker 2: College Football Playoff. So it's the juice of the game.

1851
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 2: A lot of it is going to get sucked out

1852
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 2: of it because of this new format where they're chasing

1853
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 2: all the money.

1854
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got no, No, it sucks.

1855
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 2: That part of it sucks. All right, We've got a

1856
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 2: score for tonight before we do that, though, OBM the

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Speaker 2: All right, we got a little Monday night football. You

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01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 2: guys are gonna get the the real treat, which is

1866
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 2: a five o'clock Monday night football kick football. I mean,

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01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 2: it's unbelievable. It's it's heaven. It'll be pitch dark here

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01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:57,640
Speaker 2: in what amounts about ninety minutes, and you guys are

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01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 2: gonna have suns out, guns out. I have a clock

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01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 2: watching the game.

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01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 4: I don't know because it's dark here. Bibe what they

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01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 4: get pretty quick? Yeah, somewhere after there you got.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 5: The Vikings are sixth in the NFC playoff race going

1875
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 5: into tonight's game, the Vikings six and five, playing host

1876
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 5: to the Chicago Bears, the Monsters of the Midway, the

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01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 5: team of Bishops. You love them, beat us off.

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01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, I say, I don't know. I don't

1879
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 2: I don't think so, I don't think no, no, because they.

1880
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:36,759
Speaker 4: Have a bye week. Then next week they could rest.

1881
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 2: So they would wrap him into that. Part of me

1882
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 2: wants to pick the Bears with Fields, but I'm gonna go.

1883
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Minnesota winning this one twenty four

1884
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 2: to twenty.

1885
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 4: Same. I need Fields to get me seventeen points. Come on, justin.

1886
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 2: As long as they're all to DJ, to DJ more

1887
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 2: than we'll be fine. That's all I need.

1888
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 4: I'm happy that.

1889
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 2: Then you're lots of selfish.

1890
01:30:58,439 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all good.

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01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's how as we learned, as NBC learned

1892
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 2: this week, you got to be selfish. Enjoy boys, enjoy

1893
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 2: your spy. After you know you guys going to hit

1894
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 2: the spa, get a little good time.

1895
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 4: There, spend your time of his best life.

1896
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 2: In a way, he is about ready to leave.

1897
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 4: One of the best moments of all time. They shake

1898
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 4: out today.

1899
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 2: His all time best life right now, this is it.

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01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 2: It's an all timer.

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01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:21,720
Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear the downhill after today that

1902
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 3: really unfortunately.

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01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 4: I'm restricted today.

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01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go round a kiddi pool for us to

1905
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 5: sit in tomorrow.

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01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:29,799
Speaker 4: Right here on the balcony.

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