WEBVTT - The Aftermath | Jenifer's Story

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<v Speaker 1>This podcast discusses sexual assault. Please take care while listening.

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<v Speaker 1>On December thirtieth, twenty twelve, Spencer Heron and Jennifer Fason

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<v Speaker 1>were married.

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<v Speaker 2>Let us pray, God of all love and mercy, make

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<v Speaker 2>this a sacred place wholly by your presence and by

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<v Speaker 2>the love that we celebrate today. Help us to find

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<v Speaker 2>in this couple's love and laughter the love and laughter

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<v Speaker 2>you share for us.

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<v Speaker 3>Amen, Jennifer.

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<v Speaker 4>Ever since I saw you walk into that hotel lobby

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<v Speaker 4>last year, I've known what I'm supposed to do with

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of my life. I feel beyond honor to

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<v Speaker 4>know you, to love you, and to accept the most

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<v Speaker 4>privilege of all things being your husband.

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<v Speaker 1>Nearly six years later, on August sixteenth, twenty eighteen, Heron

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<v Speaker 1>was indicted on five counts of sexual assault by a

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<v Speaker 1>teacher on school property in Cobb County, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 4>You will never have to question my love devotion to you,

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<v Speaker 4>because there's nothing else that I want to spend my

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<v Speaker 4>time doing except showing you those things. I am so

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<v Speaker 4>in love with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Nearly nine months later, on April eighth, twenty nineteen, Spencer

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<v Speaker 1>was indicted for sexually assaulting the same student in a

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<v Speaker 1>hotel in Turkey County, Georgia. Spencer told the victim to

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<v Speaker 1>stay down in an effort to hide her while driving

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<v Speaker 1>her from Kel High School to a hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>Having witnessed the covenant that you have made today and

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<v Speaker 2>celebrated the love that you share, it is my privilege

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<v Speaker 2>to pronounce you husband and wife.

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<v Speaker 3>You may kiss.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Andrea Gunning and this is a trayal Episode two.

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<v Speaker 1>The aftermath.

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<v Speaker 5>The judge set a fifty five thousand dollars cash bond,

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<v Speaker 5>so we couldn't get him out if we tried, couldn't

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<v Speaker 5>put the house up or anything like that. Fifty five

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<v Speaker 5>thousand dollars is a lot of money, so he stayed

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<v Speaker 5>in jail. It was almost like a wake, almost like

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<v Speaker 5>someone had died, because people just kept coming over.

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<v Speaker 1>In the days after the news broke, Jennifer and Spencer's

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<v Speaker 1>friend group were in disbelief and rallied around her. Her

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<v Speaker 1>friend Danielle was one of the first people Jennifer reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to, and upon hearing the news, Danielle drove straight

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<v Speaker 1>to Jennifer's house.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh what the fuck. I couldn't wrap my head around

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<v Speaker 6>there being any truth to it. All I could do

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<v Speaker 6>was just be there for her and let her know

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<v Speaker 6>that she had a huge community who was not going

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<v Speaker 6>to let her down.

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<v Speaker 1>Jen's neighbor Jail knew Spence, and she just couldn't process it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like no, no, no, no, nope.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like her calling me and speaking to me

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<v Speaker 5>in Mandarin because I was just like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>what you're saying to me right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Spencer's moogshot was all over the news, not just an Atworth,

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<v Speaker 1>but nationally and internationally. There was no hiding it. Jennifer

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<v Speaker 1>had to deal with the shame of what her husband

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<v Speaker 1>had done. The victim told investigators that during the summer

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty sixteen, Spencer met with her at school several

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<v Speaker 1>times for a non existent school club meeting. She said

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<v Speaker 1>that he would text her and tell her when he

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<v Speaker 1>would be at the school and where to find him.

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<v Speaker 1>That would give her a reason to be at Kel

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<v Speaker 1>High School. Spencer began groping the victim on several different occasions,

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<v Speaker 1>and his behavior continued into the fall semester. Law enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>also learned that in twenty seventeen, Spencer started having sexual

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<v Speaker 1>relations with the student inside the school on multiple occasions.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a sophomore. She provided some devastating des details

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<v Speaker 1>that were contained in the criminal warrant as a warning.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them are difficult to hear. For example, when

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<v Speaker 1>she began crying because it hurt, Spencer told her to

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<v Speaker 1>be quiet. Also, he insisted that he not used protection

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<v Speaker 1>because he was quote unquote fixed.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, it was sickening to know that the accusation

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<v Speaker 6>was coming from someone the same age as his youngest.

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<v Speaker 6>That was really difficult for us. How do you wrap

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<v Speaker 6>your head around that?

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<v Speaker 1>And there were plenty of people who couldn't channel.

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<v Speaker 7>Woos Lauren pos and talked to one of his former

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<v Speaker 7>students tonight. She's live outside the Cobb County jail, was

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<v Speaker 7>what she learned.

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<v Speaker 8>People we spoke with are skeptical of the charges because

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<v Speaker 8>you don't always know what's the truth is. The two

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<v Speaker 8>former students who did not want to go on camera

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<v Speaker 8>told me Haron was a great coach and teacher. The

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<v Speaker 8>other student added Haron was a professional and kind hearted.

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<v Speaker 8>She told me she does not believe the allegations are true.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jennifer knew they were true. Spencer had admitted it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now she was confronted with something else. Two days after

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<v Speaker 1>Spencer's arrest, Jennifer uncovered a dark secret life. Her husband

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<v Speaker 1>had been living a trove of her husband's lovers, sex partners,

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<v Speaker 1>and prostitutes that dated back to the beginning of their

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<v Speaker 1>marriage and beyond. He kept everything, photos, videos, emails, and

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<v Speaker 1>text exchanges between him and at least fifty other women

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<v Speaker 1>littered his computer.

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<v Speaker 6>She had gotten into his email to reset the password

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<v Speaker 6>for his Facebook, and that's when she was able to

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<v Speaker 6>shut down his social media. She was just looking to

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<v Speaker 6>protect him, protect him, protect the family. But once she

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<v Speaker 6>logged into his email, it was over and there's just

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<v Speaker 6>no going back. I don't think that anybody expected for

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<v Speaker 6>her to find what she found. I call it his

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<v Speaker 6>trophy case. It was an entire catalog of emails and

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<v Speaker 6>correspondents with women years and years and years. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>he saved everything. He saved the rejection emails, he saved

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<v Speaker 6>every photo, He backed up the photos that he got

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<v Speaker 6>from his Facebook. He was not who we thought he was.

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<v Speaker 9>She told us that she was going to file for divorce.

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<v Speaker 5>Spence was literally living a double life. On one hand,

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<v Speaker 5>he's living as the perfect, doting, loving husband, great father,

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<v Speaker 5>teacher of the year. Air Force banned he was even

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<v Speaker 5>an Eagle scout.

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer's sister Chrissy, was the voice of reason and probably

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<v Speaker 1>understood Jennifer better than anyone.

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<v Speaker 9>She had discovered all of the other women and the emails,

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<v Speaker 9>and I think she was obsessed about that because it

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<v Speaker 9>was easier than actually being sad about it. She only

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<v Speaker 9>showed me one thing because I just don't want to

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<v Speaker 9>see I didn't need to see it, but I think

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<v Speaker 9>she had to because it was Spencer. You still don't

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<v Speaker 9>believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer and Spence got married on December thirtieth, twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>She found photos of fourteen different women, many of them nude,

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<v Speaker 1>within the first year of their marriage.

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<v Speaker 6>There were two that I knew. One is someone who

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<v Speaker 6>became friends of ours through the wine bar. Her and

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<v Speaker 6>her husband would come in pretty regularly.

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<v Speaker 1>The wine bar. It was a big part of Jennifer

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<v Speaker 1>and Spence's life. It had been a dream of Jennifer's

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<v Speaker 1>to own one.

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<v Speaker 5>Spencer and I talked about opening a coffee shop when

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<v Speaker 5>we first moved here, because Atworth has this small town

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<v Speaker 5>feel and it's got this great main street. It somehow

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<v Speaker 5>evolved into a wine bar, which we opened and had

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<v Speaker 5>for two years. This was a place where the neighborhood

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<v Speaker 5>really came together. All we had to do was open

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<v Speaker 5>up the doors and the neighborhood just came in and

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<v Speaker 5>they introduced themselves and they hung out and we all

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<v Speaker 5>just became friends and this really great community. Having that

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<v Speaker 5>wine bar was a way to play hostess to the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>And it turns out it was also a sexual playground

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<v Speaker 1>for Spencer, who found new prospects, seduced women, and even

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<v Speaker 1>had sex here.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we just have this great bar, and Spence

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<v Speaker 5>was basically using it as his I have seen messages

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<v Speaker 5>where he says, while that blowjob you gave me in

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<v Speaker 5>the bathroom last night was amazing, or photos of somebody

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<v Speaker 5>in the bathroom taking a picture of herself and sending

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<v Speaker 5>it to him. He used to put a sign on

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<v Speaker 5>the door apparently that said back in five minutes or

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<v Speaker 5>back in ten minutes, and then would have sex in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer's mother, Gail just couldn't wrap her head around the audacity.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like in my business too.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, is there no place sacred?

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<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable? It's absolutely unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>But there were dozens and he met them in all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of ways. Jennifer discovered evidence of a year long

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<v Speaker 1>affair with a woman from his running.

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<v Speaker 6>Club, and then another one was in the military with him.

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<v Speaker 6>They were all very different from who Jennifer is as

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<v Speaker 6>a person.

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<v Speaker 1>Spencer juggled multiple conquests at the same time. The affairs

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<v Speaker 1>he was having with the women overlapped, and he stayed

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<v Speaker 1>in touch with them through sordid text exchanges. It's fair

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<v Speaker 1>to assume that people behave differently with secret lovers during

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<v Speaker 1>affairs than they might with their own spouses, but reading

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<v Speaker 1>his text was like reading a novel. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>fictional character. The messages showed that Spencer had secret fetishes.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a warning. The texts are explicit, and maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>most alarming part is realizing that your own partner wrote them,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what jen faced when she discovered these text messages.

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<v Speaker 1>Note all of the following were sent to adult women.

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<v Speaker 7>Will you actually punch me this time? I'm not fucking around.

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<v Speaker 7>I need you to hurt me. That's the point, the

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<v Speaker 7>entire point.

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<v Speaker 1>Was he into pain or was it the rush? Jennifer

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<v Speaker 1>had no idea because she had no clue that he

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<v Speaker 1>liked to be hit Spencer also liked his lovers to

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<v Speaker 1>refer to him as Daddy. Send outy a picture was

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<v Speaker 1>a frequent request in his fantasy life. Jennifer noticed he

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to enjoy a playful and sometimes not so playful,

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<v Speaker 1>dominating persona. There were other texts where Spencer was in

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<v Speaker 1>touch with former students. Here he keeps trying to persuade

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<v Speaker 1>one of them to get together.

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<v Speaker 7>I remember you being in class. You're always so much

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<v Speaker 7>fun and so sweet. I hope you could tell that

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<v Speaker 7>I was always super fond of you. We have a

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<v Speaker 7>cool connection, your gorgeous fact. We need to hang out.

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<v Speaker 7>I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 3>I dig you.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually, the young woman asks how are you and your wife?

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<v Speaker 3>Though?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, I guess you know how relationships are. Can you

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<v Speaker 7>see how I might have a crush on you?

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<v Speaker 1>You know how relationships are. He barely acknowledges the question

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<v Speaker 1>and brings it back to the conversation he really wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to have. In another exchange, he mentions with holding sex

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<v Speaker 1>from Jennifer.

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<v Speaker 7>When I know that we're going to meet, I like

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<v Speaker 7>depriving myself, so I avoid sex with her if it

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<v Speaker 7>even comes up.

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<v Speaker 1>And to another he references tension at home for more excitement.

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<v Speaker 7>By the way, Jen and I are fighting right now,

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<v Speaker 7>so I am in an even freakier and more amped

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<v Speaker 7>up mood to test the waters. And then there was

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<v Speaker 7>this I am a single man for the next six days.

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<v Speaker 7>If you want to hook up, I'm still very interested.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a tech spencer sent when Jennifer was traveling for work.

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<v Speaker 1>But the person Jennifer saw when she returned with someone

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<v Speaker 1>happy to see her.

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<v Speaker 5>He'll be jumping up, you know, saying hi, wife, welcome home.

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<v Speaker 5>It's almost like an outer body experience, because you can't

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<v Speaker 5>prepare yourself for something like that, especially when it's the

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<v Speaker 5>last thing you expect to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer needed to get away from it all, so she

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<v Speaker 1>went to stay with her sister in La.

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<v Speaker 9>During the time that she stayed with me, she went

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<v Speaker 9>from angry to.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, really fat.

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<v Speaker 9>She started thinking it was because of her that she

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<v Speaker 9>wasn't enough. And I didn't cry when she was here,

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<v Speaker 9>but as soon as she left, I cried, I think

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<v Speaker 9>for two days straight because.

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<v Speaker 1>She hated herself.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, like we did have plans to go and

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<v Speaker 9>need some friends, but she didn't want to go because

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<v Speaker 9>she didn't want people to think she was a loser,

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<v Speaker 9>and a loser turned into ugly, a loser turned into fat.

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<v Speaker 9>She's none of those things. Her self esteem, I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>the saddest part is the effect it had. No matter

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<v Speaker 9>how many times you say that it wasn't her fault,

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<v Speaker 9>she couldn't hear it. It was so sad just to

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<v Speaker 9>watch someone who was so beautiful and vibrant and confident

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<v Speaker 9>and smart turn into someone so small or thought that

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<v Speaker 9>they were so small and unlovable.

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<v Speaker 1>Christy remembered something from a past conversation she had with

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<v Speaker 1>Spencer at a dinner party.

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<v Speaker 9>I had asked Spence and his friend. I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>do you guys ever get nervous with the young girls

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<v Speaker 9>these days? And Spencer had this look on his face

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<v Speaker 9>because he was being thoughtful about it. And Spence said, well,

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<v Speaker 9>I never meet any of my students alone. I do.

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<v Speaker 9>I always have the door open. But there was a

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<v Speaker 9>pause there that made me think. It didn't make me

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<v Speaker 9>pause because I thought he had done something, but it

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<v Speaker 9>made me pause because I thought he wasn't saying something

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<v Speaker 9>he wanted to say. And I'm not gonna lie. That

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<v Speaker 9>was the first time that I thought, say it's Spence Spence.

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<v Speaker 1>Never made bail, and although all of his friends and

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<v Speaker 1>family knew that he was incarcerated for sexual assault with

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<v Speaker 1>a student, he was determined to stay in touch and

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<v Speaker 1>make amends however he could.

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<v Speaker 9>Jennifer mentioned that he wanted to write me an email

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<v Speaker 9>if he wants us all to love him. He has

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<v Speaker 9>this need for everyone to love him. He wants to

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<v Speaker 9>send emails and talk about how he's found God and

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<v Speaker 9>all of this stuff. And I was like, don't bother,

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<v Speaker 9>It's never going to happen. He's insane. Nothing he says

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<v Speaker 9>is true.

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer wouldturn home to Actworth to pick up the pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>The next casualty of Spencer's crimes. Jennifer's day to day

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<v Speaker 1>life life Spencer's income, all that household money was lost.

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<v Speaker 1>On top of that, her work was suffering from a

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<v Speaker 1>lack of sleep and horrible stress. She had spent a

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<v Speaker 1>lifetime building a reputation as a dependable and highly skilled producer,

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<v Speaker 1>but coworkers could see that she was distracted. Finally, there

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<v Speaker 1>would be the cost of a divorce attorney, and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>she had to sell her home. The house that jen

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<v Speaker 1>and Spen's bought together represented much more than their marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>Jen's sister understood it symbolized something greater stability.

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<v Speaker 9>Growing up after my parents divorced, we moved around a

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<v Speaker 9>lot when we were younger. My sister Jennifer, John and

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<v Speaker 9>I my brother John. We were all very close, but

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<v Speaker 9>we also were always going into different schools twelve different

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<v Speaker 9>schools before eighth grade. Was kind of just needing to survive.

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<v Speaker 9>For Jennifer, she always wanted a home. She wanted to

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<v Speaker 9>stay in one place. She wanted a house. She wanted

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<v Speaker 9>the white picket fence because we didn't have that.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't hide from the reality when those bills are due. Here,

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<v Speaker 5>I have a mortgage on a home we just bought together.

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<v Speaker 5>As hard as I tried, I can't make ends meet.

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer was broke and practically homeless. Her friends offered up

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<v Speaker 1>their basement apartment rent free, and she accepted. It was humiliating.

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<v Speaker 1>She was starting over all over. And then there was Spence.

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<v Speaker 1>She was done with him. He was behind bars, but

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<v Speaker 1>he had nothing. Even after everything that he had done

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<v Speaker 1>to her. She couldn't live with the thought of him

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<v Speaker 1>not having toothpaste or deodorant. She was not that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of person.

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<v Speaker 5>He's still a human being, and he at the time

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<v Speaker 5>is my husband. I'd put money in his commissary account,

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<v Speaker 5>but it was never a lot. It was like maybe

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<v Speaker 5>twenty dollars here and there.

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<v Speaker 1>As Bence's sentencing date got closer, he appealed to his

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<v Speaker 1>friends and family, which included Jen's close social circle, asking

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<v Speaker 1>them to write letters on his behalf. He asked Jennifer

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<v Speaker 1>to pass a message onto the group. Here's an excerpt

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<v Speaker 1>from the letter.

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<v Speaker 7>Dear Villagers, I'm a man who comes to you with

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<v Speaker 7>a humble heart and zero pride for all of the

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<v Speaker 7>obvious reasons. I am not asking for your forgiveness because

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not there yet and I don't deserve that anyway.

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<v Speaker 7>I am asking for your help. However, why am I

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<v Speaker 7>doing this. It's because I am fighting for my life.

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<v Speaker 7>It's because I have clearly never been in such a

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<v Speaker 7>place of need. But I am now. What I did

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<v Speaker 7>to Jennifer and how I treated our marriage is something

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<v Speaker 7>that I cannot only never fix, but also something I

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<v Speaker 7>cannot ever apologize enough for doing. I will never be

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<v Speaker 7>able to give back to her the things that I

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<v Speaker 7>have taken. My only hope is that she moves on

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<v Speaker 7>from this life bomb that I dropped on her as

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<v Speaker 7>soon as she possibly can. I am coming to you because,

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<v Speaker 7>despite how horrible I was to Jennifer, I hope and

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<v Speaker 7>pray that you don't see me as the person the

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<v Speaker 7>media and my charges are making me out to be.

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<v Speaker 7>I hope that the Spencer you know or knew is

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<v Speaker 7>not that person that has been described. For my upcoming

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<v Speaker 7>arraignment hearing, I'm asking people who know me to consider

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<v Speaker 7>writing a character reference letter to be given to my

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<v Speaker 7>judge and the DA. Obviously, I'm wanting to get out

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<v Speaker 7>of jail as soon as possible. You all know, of course,

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<v Speaker 7>that the three kids are all in college, and I

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<v Speaker 7>am desperate to get out so that I can support

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<v Speaker 7>them in every way emotionally, spiritually, parentally, and financially. What

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<v Speaker 7>it will do for my case, I believe will be

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<v Speaker 7>so very important. I wish you all the very best,

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<v Speaker 7>and thank you for being such an incredible friend to Jennifer.

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<v Speaker 7>Much love, Thanks Spencer.

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<v Speaker 5>He brings up the kids. That is when my blood

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<v Speaker 5>started to boil. That is his first thing that he tried,

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<v Speaker 5>using those kids, he says, I hope you remember the

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<v Speaker 5>person that you know and not the one that the

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<v Speaker 5>media is making me out to be. Well, he is

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<v Speaker 5>the person the media is making them out to be.

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<v Speaker 5>It's all true.

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<v Speaker 1>Several people did write letters of support for Spencer, but

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<v Speaker 1>none of them were the Villagers. Sentencing day came without

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<v Speaker 1>much warning.

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<v Speaker 5>I had planned to go and sit in the back.

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<v Speaker 5>Jill planned to go with me and says she would

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<v Speaker 5>hold my hand. But I wanted to go, not as

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<v Speaker 5>support for him, but just to witness everything and hear

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<v Speaker 5>it for myself. Unfortunately, the court date came up all

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<v Speaker 5>of a sudden and there wasn't any preparation for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Spenser pled guilty to five counts of sexual assault by

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<v Speaker 1>a teacher. For each count, he was sentenced to twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>with five years to be served in confinement, serving them concurrently,

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to state prison.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm pretty sure that the evidence was stacked way way

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<v Speaker 5>against him. As soon as it was over, he called me.

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<v Speaker 5>He said he asked to say something to the victim's

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<v Speaker 5>pa parents and the mom said, we don't want to

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<v Speaker 5>hear anything you have to say.

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<v Speaker 10>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>He went into all of this thinking, I am an

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<v Speaker 5>eagle scout, I'm in the Air Force reserves, I'm a

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<v Speaker 5>school teacher. I was Teacher of the Year. I'm a

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<v Speaker 5>great dad. Look at these people that are speaking on

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<v Speaker 5>my behalf. And it didn't work. He couldn't talk his

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<v Speaker 5>way out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>This time.

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<v Speaker 1>There was one very small consolation. Spencer could be sentenced

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<v Speaker 1>under the first Offender Statute. The intent of the law

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<v Speaker 1>was to give first time offenders a chance to learn

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<v Speaker 1>from their mistake and move on with their lives out

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<v Speaker 1>the burden of a conviction.

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<v Speaker 5>The benefit is that after the twenty years everything will

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<v Speaker 5>be wiped off his record, so he will not be

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<v Speaker 5>considered a felon anymore. He can vote again and the

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<v Speaker 5>slate is white clean for him. Having that title of

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<v Speaker 5>first defender was like, you know, a notch on his belt,

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<v Speaker 5>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>But remember how he took the student into a hotel

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<v Speaker 1>that was not in Cobb County but in Cherokee County,

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<v Speaker 1>a different jurisdiction. Spender was indicted for that charge several

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<v Speaker 1>months later. On July fifth, twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 5>After he'd been sent to prison, they woke him up

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<v Speaker 5>in the middle of the night to transport him from

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<v Speaker 5>Wilcox Prison back up to Cherokee County to have a

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<v Speaker 5>hearing for that case. He was really disappointed because he

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<v Speaker 5>didn't think that they were going to move forward with that.

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<v Speaker 5>So just by picking a hotel that happened to be

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<v Speaker 5>in another county, he got another twenty year sentence for.

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<v Speaker 1>Cherokee County's District Attorney, Spencer Hearn wasn't a first time offender.

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<v Speaker 1>He was now a repeat offender. You would no longer

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<v Speaker 1>qualify for first offender status. Cherokee County gave them the

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<v Speaker 1>same sentence also to run concurrently. Upon release, Spencer Hearn

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<v Speaker 1>will have to register as a sex offender. Cobb County

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<v Speaker 1>District Attorney Flynn Brody Jr.

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<v Speaker 10>As a sexual predator. That is a scarlet letter for

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<v Speaker 10>the rest of your life. It'll limit the types of

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<v Speaker 10>jobs he can have. It'll limit the places that they

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<v Speaker 10>can live. They'll have to report everywhere they go. Anytime

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<v Speaker 10>they cross state lines, they have to report that they're

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<v Speaker 10>sexual predator in that particular state. It really limits them

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<v Speaker 10>as far as their future is concerned, and rightfully so,

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<v Speaker 10>because we know they're a predator and they have to

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<v Speaker 10>be controlled.

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<v Speaker 1>The court proceedings, the apology letters from Spencer, they were

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<v Speaker 1>all distractions. Most days after the arrest, Jennifer was alone

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<v Speaker 1>with her thoughts. She was simmering in the sadness, fury,

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<v Speaker 1>and trauma of this massive betrayal. How did she get here?

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<v Speaker 1>A successful, confident, secure woman with everything was now just

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<v Speaker 1>fighting to get through every day.

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<v Speaker 9>None of this had anything to do with her. She

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<v Speaker 9>had not done anything wrong at all, and this horrible

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<v Speaker 9>thing happened to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Jen needed to put all the pieces together. She needed

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<v Speaker 1>to make sense of it all. Jennifer was tormented by

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<v Speaker 1>the spends she didn't know, by the women that were

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<v Speaker 1>involved with him, especially the high school student. But she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to sit at home with her trauma buried

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<v Speaker 1>under the covers, hiding from the world, so she decided

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<v Speaker 1>to confront it, to go out and meet the other

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<v Speaker 1>people who had been impacted by spends us her instead

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<v Speaker 1>of hiding. She wanted to know everything about who she

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<v Speaker 1>married and what he had done. For the past eleven years,

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer had been living in a sea of lies. Now

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted the truth that would be the start of

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<v Speaker 1>her healing. On the next episode of Betrayal, Jennifer meets

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<v Speaker 1>with Spencer's most vulnerable victim, his former student. The young

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<v Speaker 1>woman in her twenties now is breaking her silence.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm shaking.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah you too.

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