1 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 1: Hey, ba Fam, I am back. It's Nandy. I am 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: here with another episode of Brown Ambition and this week 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: is all about your questions. Yes, the BAQ and A 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: is back. Thank you so much for sending your questions y'all. 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: If you want to get a question on the air, 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: go to Brannibisson podcast dot com. That is our homepage 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: and from there you can submit a question through our website. Also, 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: you can hit us up on Instagram. We are at 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: Brand Ambition Podcast. Just slide into our DM send us 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: your question. Make sure that you are clear and concise, 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: and if you want to be anonymous, just let me 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: know otherwise I'm gonna put your entire name out here 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: and I don't want to get anyone in trouble. Okay, 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: And while you're at it, if y'all want to be 15 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: featured in our new series on Instagram, we are doing 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: a ba Fam Fans spotlight on Fridays where we actually 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: go to iTunes see who's left us a review, and 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 1: then spotlight one of y'all. Head to iTunes right now 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: leave us a five star review. If you've been rocking 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: with our show for all these years and you haven't 21 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: left us review yet, come on now Like you don't 22 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: pay for this, go leave. 23 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: Us a review. 24 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: It is so helpful and having other people find our show. 25 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: It also helps us move up the rankings on iTunes 26 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: and listen numbers are important, okay, and I would love 27 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: to hit the top ten again for top ten business podcasts. 28 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: So send us a review, take a screenshot of the 29 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: show and share it on social media. Tag us at 30 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: Branda Mission podcast. On ig you can tag me at 31 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: Mandy Money and just let everyone know that you are 32 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: a part of the BA Fam. Okay, So that's my 33 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 1: sales pitch over. Let me get into this mail bag 34 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: and thank y'all again for your patience. As I have 35 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: been learning how to just sit here and talk to myself. 36 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: I'm having a good time. 37 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: We still send our love and virtual hugs to our 38 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: girl Tiffany and wish her lots of happy, healing and 39 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: good health as she, yeah, is just taking her time 40 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: until she feels ready to come back to the show. 41 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: So I love you, TIF, we all love you, and 42 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: the BA fam sends you lots and lots of love. Okay. 43 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: First question is from Anonymous. Anonymous wants to know Mandy 44 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: when does it make sense to use credit unions. I 45 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: combined finances with my spouse this year, and I'm more 46 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: bothered when it comes to debt. I'm only comfortable carrying 47 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: my student loan debt, which I've got about sixteen thousand 48 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: dollars of. My partner is also trying to pay off 49 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: about nine thousand dollars of personal consumer debt that has 50 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: skyrocketed since he's been unemployed through the pandemic. This year, 51 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: we've managed to also rack up an additional four thousand 52 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: dollars in credit card debt low interest to no interest 53 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: because we've taken advantage of a zero percent financing offer 54 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: pre tax. This year, will have made about eighty five K, 55 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: and my credit score is seven twenty. Okay, So you 56 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: want to know when it makes sense to use credit unions, 57 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to have to do a little bit of 58 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: mental gymnastics to figure out specifically what you're wanting to 59 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: do with a credit union. So I'm thinking based on 60 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: the fact that you guys have got let me see 61 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: da DA Math is easy, Math is fun nine thousand 62 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: dollars plus four. So you got about thirteen thousand dollars 63 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: of credit card and personal loan debt and you're probably wondering, 64 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: you know, should we go to a credit union and 65 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: potentially take out like a debt consolidation loan that we 66 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: could use to pay down this consumer high interest consumer 67 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: debt and then you're just left with one loan payment 68 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: after that. With your credit score seven to twenty, you know, 69 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: you're probably really likely to get a pretty decent rate 70 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: on a debt consolidation loan, and a credit union is 71 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: a perfectly fine place to go for that kind of loan. 72 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: You can also use online lenders too, you know, online lenders, 73 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: because they don't have all the expenses of brick and 74 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: mortar banks, they tend to offer lower fees. But my 75 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: best advice when it comes to shopping for debt consolidation 76 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: loans is to get quotes, you know, actually run your numbers, 77 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: get a quote for how much you need, and see 78 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: who's going to offer you the best terms. So your 79 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: interest rate obviously is number one, but are they going 80 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: to attack on any other fees on top of that? 81 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: You know, are they gonna are they going to give 82 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: you a penalty if you prepay your loan, which means 83 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: you pay it off sooner than what your term dictates. 84 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: So definitely get some loan options and lay them out 85 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: next to each other and just make the best decision 86 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: based on the options that you get. Now, listen, what's 87 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: interesting about your question is, you know, so I hear 88 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: you're married, your partner's got some debt, you've racked up 89 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: some debt together, but you're talking about your credit score, 90 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: and that tells me that you're looking to take on 91 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: this debt consolidation loan potentially on your own. Just be 92 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: aware that, you know, whatever happens in your relationship, that 93 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: loan is going to be in your name, so it's 94 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: going to be your responsibility to pay it down. Obviously, 95 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: your partner can help. I hope that he's been able 96 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: to get work. I know you said he was unemployed 97 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 1: during the pandemic. 98 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: I hope that. I'm hoping that he's working. 99 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: Again and he can help contribute to that consumer debt. 100 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: But yeah, it is going to be ultimately your name 101 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: on the paperwork, so you want to be sure that 102 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: you can handle those payments independently. And I would just 103 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: aggressively go after that credit card debt. You know, you 104 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: say that you've got student loan debt, which is about 105 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: sixteen K it's not that bad, right. Plus, I think 106 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: at least until the spring, you won't have to make 107 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: any more payments or make any payments on federal student 108 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: loan debt thanks to the relief that was given during 109 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: the pandemic to federal student loan borrowers. So hopefully that 110 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: gives y'all some time where you could really attack this 111 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: personal consumer debt that you've got, especially the high interest debt. 112 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: So that four thousand dollars of debt that you guys 113 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: have accrued, you said that was on like a zero 114 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: percent financing plan. That's maybe not your top priority right now. 115 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: Maybe you want to tackle that nine thousand dollars that 116 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: you said has skyrocketed because your partner's been out out 117 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: of work for so long, you know, So tackle the 118 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: high interest debt first, but really be aware again of 119 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: take on that responsibility with your credit score. You know, 120 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: if you're not able to make those payments, obviously, that 121 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: would hurt your credit score, and that's who the banks 122 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: would be coming to for payment if you guys can't pay. 123 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: When it comes to managing debt, well, actually I don't 124 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: know if I say this yet, but when it comes 125 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: to managing debt as a couple, I think teamwork makes 126 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: a dream work. I think, at least in my relationship, 127 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: it helped me to start thinking of his debt as 128 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: my debt from an early time in our relationship, and 129 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: not that he had a lot of debt, just as 130 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: an example. And the same thing with my savings, my income, 131 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, just thinking of it as one pot. It 132 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: just made it easier to kind of tackle those goals together. 133 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: So as long as your partner is working and you 134 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: guys are bringing an extra income and you feel like 135 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: you are capable of making a debt consolidation loan payment, 136 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, month after month and making that a consistent 137 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: part of your budget, then I think it could work 138 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: for you guys to go to a credit union or 139 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: any other lender and get a debt consolidation loan as 140 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: long as it's a lower rate than the cost of 141 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: your consumer debt right now and just paying that down aggressively, 142 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: and then once that's paid off, then you can move 143 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: on to that zero percent financing debt. As we've said 144 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: on the show before, when it comes to those zero 145 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: percent you know, credit card offers or any kind of 146 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: like zero percent financing, which is an introductory rate. Really 147 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: pay attention to the fine print because what you don't 148 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: want to happen is that you're left after that promotional. 149 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 2: Period is over. 150 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: If you've even got one dollar of money or one 151 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: dollar of debt still on that line of credit or 152 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: that loan, they may have something called the deferred interest clause, 153 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: which basically says, even if you've got one dollar left, 154 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: we're actually going to go back to the beginning of 155 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: this loan and we're going to pretend like you were 156 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: paying interest this entire time, and they're going to tack 157 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: all that interest back onto your balance. So it could 158 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: actually increase how much you owe, which really sucks, right, 159 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: So just be conscious of that. But I think together 160 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: you guys can definitely tackle this. It's definitely not the 161 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: worst debt story that we've gotten here on Brown Ambition. 162 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: That I hope that helped. And good luck as you 163 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: guys get back and you know, get back on your feet, 164 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: you know, financially, and I mean, honestly, don't beat yourself 165 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: up too bad, because the pandemic is is and was 166 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: a huge burden too, so many households and the fact 167 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: that you had to rack up some consumer debt does 168 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: not mean that you are bad with money. It just 169 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: means you did what you had to do to survive 170 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: during unprecedented times, right, and now you just kind of 171 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: got to pick yourself back up and get on the 172 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: right track, which I feel really confident that you guys 173 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: will be able to do. All right. 174 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: I hope that helped. 175 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: Thank you again for your question, and let me see 176 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: what's next. All right, So we've got a question this week. 177 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: Oh, repeat a repeat. 178 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: Be a questioner, Amelia. Amelia's got an interesting question. She says, 179 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm currently in the process of adopting a family member's child. 180 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: I was previously child free at almost thirty years old, 181 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: and now I'm thirty two with a three year old. 182 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: I've now become a government employee and a single parent 183 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: all at once, and I'm trying to pay down debt. 184 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: I recently enrolled in school and I'm using my military 185 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: GI bill to pay for it. So now I have 186 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: an additional twelve thousand dollars tax free coming in over 187 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: the next six months. My question is this, considering I 188 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: don't have much saved after the pandemic wiped us out, 189 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: and I'm planning a move from southern California to make 190 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: in Georgia. Should I pay all my credit card debt 191 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: off or pay it down to about the thirty percent 192 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: mark and save the rest? Also some additional info, my 193 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: dad is helping me pay for my cross country move. Okay, 194 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: it's a lot to unpack here. First of all, I mean, 195 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: it's amazing that you are taking on responsibility for a child, 196 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: you know, at the goodness of your heart. And I 197 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: think that is just a really selfless and amazing thing 198 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: that you've done. And it sounds like, you know, you've 199 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: got your you've got a go job, you're enrolling in school, 200 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: you're using your military GI bill to pay for it, 201 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: which is amazing, and you've got that income coming in 202 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 1: to pay for it. 203 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: But like a lot of. 204 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: Families, you know, you don't have a lot saved after 205 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: the pandemic, and you're wondering, you know, before I make 206 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 1: this move, should I pay all my credit card debt off? 207 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: Potentially I'm wondering if you're thinking about using that twelve 208 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: thousand dollars you've got from your GI bill to pay 209 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: it off and then save the rest. Okay, a couple things, 210 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: think thing, thing, thing, Think I wouldn't want you to 211 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: blow your GI bill on debt. I mean, technically that 212 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: money is earmark for school, and you're supposed to use 213 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: it for school. Now, anyone who knows who's ever gotten 214 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: a student loan refund check knows that you could use 215 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: that money for just about anything once you get that 216 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: refund check in the mill, right, But look, I wouldn't 217 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: want you to miss out and on this great benefit 218 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: that you've earned, you know, being a service member, to 219 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: be able to pay for your school and be student 220 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: loan debt free. Now, I would actually ask can your 221 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: dad help you with your credit card debt instead of 222 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: the cross country move, so that you can feel like 223 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: you're getting you know, a good chunk of that debt 224 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: paid down before you're making that move, and then just 225 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: try to do the move as cost consciously as possible. 226 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure where it is that you're working, 227 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: but they may offer some sort of relocation benefit. That's 228 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: something that's worth asking for. If you've got credit card debt, 229 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: you don't tell me how much you've got, so it's 230 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: hard for me to tell. You know, is this something 231 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: that is really weighing down on you? That you have 232 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: to pay off right away. You know, why not just 233 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: pay it off slow and steady after you guys move 234 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: down there and you get settled, and then just make 235 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: a goal to pay that down slow and steady, you know, 236 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: as you get settled in your new job and you 237 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: guys make your. 238 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 2: New home down and make in Georgia. 239 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it may feel like it's weighing on you 240 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: and like you've to pay it off right away, but 241 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: take the time that you need. I mean, I wouldn't 242 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: want to put you in a precarious financial situation and 243 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: you blow the money that should be going towards your 244 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: school on debt that you could potentially just be paying 245 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: down slow and steady. So before you use that GI 246 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: bill on credit card debt, I would say, you know, 247 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: get in school, use a bill to pay for that tuition, 248 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: get settled, and then start to budget or start to 249 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: look at your budget and your cash flow and say, 250 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: how much will I actually have leftover that I could 251 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: use to pay down this credit card debt? And is 252 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: there anything that potentially your dad, for example, could help 253 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: you subsidized by like giving you a little bit extra 254 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: to make that card payment, or is there another lever 255 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: that you could pull. For example, could you take out 256 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: a zero percent interest balance transfer, you know, credit card 257 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: and transfer that balance onto another credit card that has 258 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: zero percent interest, just to buy yourself some time. We 259 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: were just talking about that in the last question, and 260 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: it's an option, you know, especially if you've got decent credit. 261 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: And I don't know anything else about your financial history 262 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: than what you've said here, so I'm just going to 263 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: assume that you've got decent credit, you may qualify for 264 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: a good zero percent offer and be able to move 265 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: that over. Maybe there's even an option if you're a 266 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: military member, you may have They have great they have 267 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: some financial institutions, like one of the banks that comes 268 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: to mind is USAA, But I know there's others that, 269 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,599 Speaker 1: you know, work with military service members and may be 270 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: able to give you a low interest debt consolidation loan 271 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: that you can use to pay down that debt. But yeah, 272 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: that's where I'm going. I'm not feeling so good about using, 273 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: you know, school funds to pay off debt. But at 274 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: the same time, I see what you're saying. You know, 275 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: you're wanting to pay down debt and start saving. You 276 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: just may be feeling like you have to do everything 277 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: you know all at the same time. Just break it 278 00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: down into small measurable, you know, doable, and it won't 279 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: feel quite as overwhelming, I hope. All Right, Amelia, thank 280 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: you again for your question. I'm going to take a 281 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: quick little break. It's some more of this coffee, and 282 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: I'll be right back with another of your questions. All right, y'all, 283 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 1: I am back. It's Bandy with Brown Ambition, and I'm 284 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: here for our third and final question from listener Cherish. 285 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: What a beautiful name. 286 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: Cherish says, I enrolled in a high deductible insurance plan 287 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: so that I could get an HSA and invest the 288 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: money after hearing about the benefits on your interview with 289 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: the Journey. 290 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: To Launch couple. 291 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: Oh you guys, if you haven't listened to our interview 292 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: with Journey to Launch Christina and Aman, go back and 293 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: listen to it. It's so good. All right. Back to 294 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: Cherish's question, Cherish says, but I try to limit going 295 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: to the doctor unless it's covered, because I worry my 296 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: cost will be really high since I don't have a 297 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: copey and I'm young, twenty eight years old and healthy. 298 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: If I want to start going to the doctor more, 299 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: but I don't want to pay a lot. Should I 300 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: switch to a healthcare plan, a new healthcare plan? Or 301 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: am I being overly cautious? I think I'm still anxious 302 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: from a time when I got two thousand dollars bill 303 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: for a simple lab test because they sent it to 304 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: an out of network lab. It happened to me too before, 305 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: so I get it. Chaer says, how can I know 306 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: how much more I'll pay for a high deductible health 307 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: plan versus a health plan that has a copay And 308 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: if I do switch to a copay plan, will my 309 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: HSA continue to grow? And if I switch to a 310 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: high deductible plan in the future, can I continue contributing 311 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: to it again? Alrighty, this is a really cool question. 312 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: I love it why because it sort of brings the 313 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: real world into a situation. It brings the real world 314 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: to like one of these pieces of financial advice that's 315 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: becoming more and more common. So Christina and Ammon, they 316 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: are part of this financial independence retire early movement. So 317 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: they were able to retire at thirty nine, I believe, 318 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: and they moved to Portugal and it was all amazing 319 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: and one of the strategies they talk about where they 320 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: were able to invest and save enough to retire that 321 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: early was they invested heavily in index funds, but they 322 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: also opened a high an HSA, a health savings account. 323 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: And in order to get access to an HSA, you 324 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: have to enroll in a high deductible health care plan. 325 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: So you have to have a high deductible in order 326 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: to get this HSA. And the whole point of the 327 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: HSA is that you were putting pre tax dollars into 328 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: an account to set aside for your health care expenses. Because, 329 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: as we all may know, with a high deductible plan, 330 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: it means you've got to come out of pocket before 331 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: your insurance are going to pick up the tab. So, 332 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: if you've got a high deductible health care plan, and 333 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: let's say the deductible is like five thousand dollars, you'll 334 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: want to have money set aside because you will be 335 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: on the hook for making any payments toward health care 336 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: needs before that deductible is met. So there's a bit 337 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: of risk there, right. I mean, they were young and healthy, 338 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: the same as you cherish when they when they decided 339 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: to opt in to the high deductible health care plan. 340 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: So they said, eh, probably you were not going to 341 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: have to go the doctor that often, and if we do, 342 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: we'll have money set aside to actually pay for that. 343 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: And when you have an HSA, what helps supercharge your 344 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: retirement savings is that you can actually invest through your HSA, 345 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: which is a cool benefit because you're putting money in 346 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: it before taxes, and then the money is growing tax 347 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: free while you're investing. And then the third and why 348 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: they call it a triple tax benefit, is that you 349 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: can withdraw that money tax free so long as you're 350 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: using it for medical expenses. So it is a great 351 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: tool that you potentially could use to invest for retirement, 352 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: especially because when we retire, you know we're going to 353 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: be older, you may have more health care concerns, and 354 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: then you'll actually have a pot of money through HSA 355 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: that you can withdraw and use for those those healthcare 356 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: expenses in retirement. So it sounds like a good idea, right, 357 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: sounds solid. But here's where Cherish's questions interesting because the 358 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: fact of the matter is that when you enroll in 359 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: a high deductible insurance plan, you have to pay more 360 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: out of pocket along the way, and you may act 361 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: actually not have the funds to cover those kinds of expenses. 362 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: And if you anticipate that you're going to have more 363 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: medical expenses, you will have to think carefully about whether 364 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: a high deductible plan makes sense for you. It still 365 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: can make sense, you know, it can make sense if 366 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: you've got money set aside. You know that you're setting 367 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,239 Speaker 1: aside through your HSA or other ways so that you 368 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: can pay for those copays out of pocket or pay 369 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: for any expenses out of pocket. And I think everyone 370 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: when you're on a medical plan like cherish this nightmare 371 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: where you've got a two thousand dollars bill for a 372 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: lab test because they send it to an out of 373 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: network lab. Those types of things happen all the time, 374 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: and you have to be really diligent and reading all 375 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: of your bills really carefully and triple triple quadruple checking 376 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: where they are sending certain lab work, or you know, 377 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: making sure if they're going to refer you to a 378 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: physician that you have done your due diligence and triple 379 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: dipple quadruple checked yourself to make sure they're in network. 380 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,239 Speaker 1: Because I mean, at the end of the day, like 381 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: you're going to be the one who cares most about 382 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 1: your money, right and in a rush at the medical office, 383 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: they may just send you to a doctor that they 384 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: think is in your network, but come to find out 385 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: they've left your network last week, you know. So you've 386 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: got to be really diligent, and it takes it takes 387 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: some babysitting, I feel like, of your medical your medical 388 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: bills and all that kind of stuff to be sure 389 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: that you're not going to find yourself in that situation. 390 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, HSA can be a good tool to use 391 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: for retirement, but it does come with that reality that 392 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: you will have to pay a little bit more out 393 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: of pocket then you might have liked to. And if 394 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: you're not feeling financially capable of doing that, then yes, 395 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 1: it could make more sense to enroll in a different 396 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: health care plan, a healthcare plan that is probably going 397 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: to cost you a little bit more out of. 398 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 2: Your paycheck each pay period. 399 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: But at least you'll have the peace of mind knowing 400 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: if I do need to go to the doctor, I'm 401 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: only going to have that twenty five dollars or that 402 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: thirty five dollars copay. You ask how much you ask here? 403 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: How can I know how much more I'll pay on 404 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: a high deductible plan versus a copay plan. So this 405 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: is where you can do some homework and when you 406 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: go to your enrollment page. Now, open enrollment is typically 407 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: around November, so you may have to wait until the 408 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: fall of this year to make a big make a 409 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: change like this. But when it comes time for open enrollment, 410 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: what you want to do, and a lot of plan 411 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: pages will actually let you do this online is do 412 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: a side by side comparison and they should be able 413 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: to tell you here's what your here's what your deduction 414 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: is going to be from your paycheck for this plan, 415 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: so here's what your premium is going to cost, and 416 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: here's what your copay is going to be. And then 417 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: you've just got to make that, you know, make the 418 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: decision based on your best guess of how much healthcare 419 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: you're going to need in the year to come. I know, 420 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of it's annoying and it's a little overwhelming, 421 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: like how can I predict what kind of health care 422 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to need? But that's what you got to do. 423 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: I mean, you just got to kind of make the 424 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: best decision based on what you know and if you anticipate, 425 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: like like I said, if you anticipate having some medical 426 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: expenses or having some procedures done that will be more costly, 427 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: then you may want to, at least for the next 428 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: year or however long it'll take, you know, change to 429 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: a plan that costs you a little bit more out 430 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: of pocket for your premium, but actually gives you better 431 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: benefits because it pays for a lot more of those 432 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: services upfront versus a high deductible plan, you know, where 433 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: you're maybe paying a lower premium, but you're coming out 434 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: of pocket a lot more often when you go the doctor. Okay, 435 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: So another question you had is if I do switch 436 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: to a copay plan, will my HSA continue to grow? 437 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: Yes. 438 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: The beauty of an HSA is you can actually take 439 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: it with you, even if you leave your job. It 440 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: goes with you. And yes, it will continue to grow. 441 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 1: It's not going to go anywhere. You won't lose it. 442 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: And if you decide to go back to a high 443 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: deductible plan in the future, I don't know if that particular. 444 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: It depends on if you switched companies at that point, 445 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,479 Speaker 1: or if it's the same insurance company. They may have 446 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: you open an HSA at a different a different financial service. 447 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 1: But yes, you can contribute to your HSA again at 448 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: that point. Just maybe I just may be contributing to 449 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: a new HSCA account somewhere else. But if it's the 450 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: same insurer and the same employer, I would imagine that 451 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: you could probably just start contributing again to that HSA 452 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: directly through the same HSA that you had kind of 453 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: put on pause for a while while you switch to. 454 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 2: A different health care plan. Okay, yay. 455 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: I don't know why I get excited talking about hsas, 456 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: but I love this question, Cherish. And it's another reminder 457 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: too that as much as we see, you know, stories 458 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: of other people on their own financial journeys and you know, 459 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: making decisions about the types of health care that they're 460 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: going to pay for, in types of investment accounts that 461 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: they're going to open, at the end of the day, 462 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: all they're doing is telling you a story about what 463 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: served them, you know, in their journey. And I just 464 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: want everyone to be aware of that at the end 465 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: of the day, like you've got to do what's best 466 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: for you and your financial situation situation, and just because 467 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: something was the right decision for other people does not 468 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: mean it's going to be the right decision for you. 469 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: These things are complex, Our lives are complex. Everyone is 470 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: so different, So just make peace with the fact that 471 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: your financial journey is going to look different than everyone else's, 472 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, and you can definitely like take ideas from 473 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: other people, but you've got to do what's best for 474 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: you financially. And I'm really glad that you are taking 475 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: a step back here and saying, Okay, maybe it worked 476 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: for Journey to launch, but I don't know if I'm 477 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: actually going to be the right this will be the 478 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: right path for me, and being willing to kind of 479 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: be critical and think about that before you just kind 480 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: of jump and dive into something just because you know 481 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: someone else said it worked for them. All right, Cherish, 482 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: thank you so much for your question. That was a good, 483 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: juicy one for the end of the show. Thank y'all again. 484 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: I'm Mandy with Brand and if you want to send 485 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: us your question, hit us up at Brown Ambition podcast 486 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: dot com. You can send us a question, droke it 487 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: through our website or go to ig We are at 488 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: Brown Ambition Podcast and you can leave us a question 489 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: right there, slide into our DMS. I can't wait to 490 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: get more questions from y'all, and I will see y'all 491 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: next week. Thank y'all so much for listening. This is 492 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: Brown ambition.