Speaker 1: Welcome its verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator,
Speaker 1: it is the day after Easter, but the White House
Speaker 1: wouldn't want you to know that Easter even happened on Sunday.
Speaker 1: They were too obsessed with making sure that everybody knew
Speaker 1: about the see everybody that's transgender day.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I hope everyone had a wonderful and blessed
Speaker 2: Easter yesterday. I hope you had a weekend with your
Speaker 2: family where you gave thanks to God for God's blessings.
Speaker 2: And I got to say, right in the middle of it,
Speaker 2: seeing the Biden White House say essentially Easter doesn't happen
Speaker 2: in this White House, that they're woke priorities Trump and
Speaker 2: any recognition of Christianity or even acknowledgment of Christianity is
Speaker 2: really sad. We're also going to talk in this episode
Speaker 2: today about California's new twenty dollars minimum wage law, which
Speaker 2: sadly has had having exactly the predicted effect of causing
Speaker 2: thousands upon thousands of workers to lose their job. Fast
Speaker 2: food restaurants all across California are laying off workers because
Speaker 2: woke politicians do not understand basic supply and demand. And third,
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Speaker 2: Democrat only network. And actually, for a brief moment, the
Speaker 2: network big wigs tried to hire a Republican and their
Speaker 2: on air talent all left wing Democrats, lost their minds
Speaker 2: lit their hair on fire, and immediately the network execs
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Speaker 1: It's a day that I love on Sunday because the
Speaker 1: world stops and that doesn't happen very often, and Christians
Speaker 1: all over the world come together to celebrate the resurrection
Speaker 1: of Jesus Christ. It is a day when you see
Speaker 1: people come to church at staggering numbers, uh and come
Speaker 1: together as families. But you look at the White House
Speaker 1: and you go to White House dot gov, they had
Speaker 1: a very different message for Americans. In fact, they tried
Speaker 1: to hijack I would argue Easter altogether for another woke moment.
Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. The White House put out an
Speaker 2: announcement on Friday, on Good Friday that that that that
Speaker 2: read quote. Now, therefore, I, Joseph Arbiden, Junior President of
Speaker 2: the United States, by virtue of the authority vested in
Speaker 2: me by the Constitution and the Laws of the United States,
Speaker 2: do hereby proclaim marks thirty first, twenty twenty four as
Speaker 2: Transgender Day of Visibility. Sunday was Easter Sunday. Yeah, look, look,
Speaker 2: listen as a Christian that there is no more important
Speaker 2: day in the calendar Listen, Christmas is a wonderful celebration
Speaker 2: of Jesus' birth, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: the entirety of Christianity is about Jesus' crucifixion on Good
Speaker 2: Friday and his resurrection on Easter. Obviously not on those
Speaker 2: exact days, but those are the days we celebrate his
Speaker 2: dying for our sins. And I got to say, for
Speaker 2: the White House to decide, you know, Easter is not
Speaker 2: really important. The only thing that matters to us is
Speaker 2: our politics, and nothing matters more than's transgender Day of
Speaker 2: Visibility like that that that's truly stunning.
Speaker 1: Not only is it stunning, but it's also one of
Speaker 1: those moments and people that have not been around a
Speaker 1: White House. This is not by accident. And there were
Speaker 1: even some people going, look, you guys are of reacting
Speaker 1: AKA Christians, they're just acknowledging. They didn't create this day, right,
Speaker 1: The President is acknowledging this transgender visibility day. And this
Speaker 1: could have been just you know, doing two things at once,
Speaker 1: and they're not really they're not really overlooking Easter. I
Speaker 1: don't believe that for a moment. This is me personally
Speaker 1: saying that I think this was a deliberate moved by
Speaker 1: this White House to spit in the face of Christians
Speaker 1: and to say to younger voters that maybe don't believe
Speaker 1: in God and the extremists on the Democratic side, hey,
Speaker 1: we are your party. I think this was deliberate for
Speaker 1: November because they're trying to shure up younger voters are
Speaker 1: saying they may stay home and not vote for Joe Biden. Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, I guess I disagree with you on that, Ben.
Speaker 2: I don't really think this was like a overt political decision.
Speaker 2: I think the senior officials at the White House, most
Speaker 2: of them have no idea it's Easter. I think they
Speaker 2: are so second I think faith is so distant from
Speaker 2: their lives that it doesn't even occur to them. I
Speaker 2: don't think they had a warning sign.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of you remember a couple of years
Speaker 2: ago when Jill Biden was down in San Antonio, Texas,
Speaker 2: and she was speaking at a LATINX conference. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and in her remark she said that that that that
Speaker 2: that Hispanics are as diverse as breakfast tacos, which was
Speaker 2: so utterly offensive. My response immediately was, well, I'm a
Speaker 2: jonag and chee, so thank you, Jill, and it truly is.
Speaker 2: But what was interesting about that, what was revealing about
Speaker 2: that it was not a gaff. It was not an
Speaker 2: off the cuff comment, that's the sort of thing Joe
Speaker 2: Biden might say off the cuff. It was written in
Speaker 2: her remarks, which means the political office at the White
Speaker 2: House signed off on it. And they are so woke
Speaker 2: that to them being condescending to Latinos who they want
Speaker 2: to call latinx. And by the way, anyone who uses
Speaker 2: the word LATINX, I promise you is not a Latino
Speaker 2: and not a Latina. They are a rich white liberal
Speaker 2: and to them it sounds perfectly perfectly normal to say,
Speaker 2: you cute little Latinxes are as diverse as Tacos. I
Speaker 2: think it's the same sort of thing here. They put
Speaker 2: this out and and all of them, I actually think
Speaker 2: they're home celebrating transgender Day of Visibility. They're they're not
Speaker 2: not really aware it's Easter. I guess they know that
Speaker 2: there there are a lot of bunny rabbits around for
Speaker 2: some reason, but I don't know that they could tell
Speaker 2: you why.
Speaker 1: All right, so let me ask you this let's go
Speaker 1: with your theory for a second, because there's a there's
Speaker 1: definitely a chance that you're correct on this. But the
Speaker 1: White House spoken.
Speaker 2: And the truth is probably the truth is probably some
Speaker 2: of both, it is, but but the question is which
Speaker 2: is the predominant one. And I lean to there just
Speaker 2: being that oblivious that they don't even realize they don't
Speaker 2: know any person of faith who actually celebrates Easter, so
Speaker 2: it doesn't occur to them that there's anything offensive about
Speaker 2: what they're saying.
Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk about the double down, because
Speaker 1: the White House spokesman John Pierre doubled down after President
Speaker 1: Joe Biden declared Easter Sunday Transgender Day of Visibility. She
Speaker 1: put a statement out on xt Saturday, following the backlash
Speaker 1: to Biden's animated affirmation of the controversial quote holiday that
Speaker 1: happens to me on the same day as the holiest
Speaker 1: Christian holiday that we have on the calendar. Quote on
Speaker 1: Transgender Day of Visibility. The Biden Heri's administration honors the
Speaker 1: extraordinary courage and contributions of transgender Americans and reaffirms our
Speaker 1: nation's commitment to forming him are more perfect union where
Speaker 1: all people are treated equally. That is what she put
Speaker 1: on X on Saturday. Do you think they just doubled
Speaker 1: down because they had no choice? It was like, all right,
Speaker 1: we look like idiots. We've just offitted a ton of
Speaker 1: Christians and people of faith this country who basically just
Speaker 1: spit in their face. So this will be our way
Speaker 1: of saying, hey, we're kind of doing two things at once.
Speaker 1: Calm down.
Speaker 2: So I don't think they know anyone they offended. I
Speaker 2: think they view anyone who would be offended as a
Speaker 2: deplorable So it's I genuinely believe there was not a
Speaker 2: person in this White House who was offended. And most
Speaker 2: of them would tell you, I think they don't know
Speaker 2: anyone that they if they have a family member, they
Speaker 2: think they're an ignorant family member they don't talk to anymore.
Speaker 2: And listen, I'll tell you what I was actually more
Speaker 2: okay the two things on this number one, I put
Speaker 2: out a statement as it did a lot of people
Speaker 2: pointing out how ridiculous this was, and I put it
Speaker 2: out on AX, and it was interesting all the lefties
Speaker 2: who responded to me. There were a bunch of them
Speaker 2: that said, weh, no, no, it just transgender Day. Of
Speaker 2: visibility happened to occur this Sunday. It's not our fault
Speaker 2: that Easter coincided with what is clearly this day is
Speaker 2: transgender Day. And it was kind of like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: not sure about this holiday you're talking about, but Easter
Speaker 2: spin around a couple thousand and years. It's like they
Speaker 2: treat Easter like, who is this interloper that dare land
Speaker 2: in the midst of our celebration. But let me say
Speaker 2: something else that actually I found even more offensive, which
Speaker 2: is every year the White House has an Easter egg roll.
Speaker 2: And the Easter egg Roll is a fun event, and
Speaker 2: you know, you have a lot of people who take
Speaker 2: their kids there and they have Easter eggs and that
Speaker 2: they're wooden and they're painted, they're really neat, and there's
Speaker 2: a contest for kids. Well, the Biden White House has
Speaker 2: a contest for kids to paint Easter eggs. And they
Speaker 2: had a flyer describing what the kids must do. And
Speaker 2: here's what the flyer for the content said. An Easter
Speaker 2: egg design submission quote must not include any questionable content,
Speaker 2: religious symbols, overtly religious themes, or partisan political statements. So
Speaker 2: understand and by the way. This is on behalf of
Speaker 2: first Lady Jill Biden. Surprised you didn't call it the
Speaker 2: LATINX Easter egg roll. They invite people there and understand
Speaker 2: they want you to paint Easter eggs that, according to
Speaker 2: their dictate, have nothing to do with Easter. They literally prohibit,
Speaker 2: they say, any religious themes, symbols, or content on a
Speaker 2: celebration of Easter.
Speaker 1: Rights, yeah, cross would be overly religious. The words?
Speaker 2: All right, what are the most common three words that
Speaker 2: any Christian says on Easter? He has he has risen?
Speaker 2: And what does everyone respond? He has risen? Indeed, I
Speaker 2: sat down, I texted a whole bunch of my friends
Speaker 2: today and and and and texted them scriptures. But he
Speaker 2: has risen. So according to the Biden rules, you're not
Speaker 2: allowed to put he has risen. You are allowed to
Speaker 2: put an Easter bunny. Uh, you are allowed to put
Speaker 2: something utterly secular. And and look what I find grotesquely offensive?
Speaker 2: Is I listen? This White House puts out celebrations of
Speaker 2: Rashashan on Jan kupor, as they should on the Jewish holidays.
Speaker 2: Do they have a rule no Jewish symbols on the
Speaker 2: Jewish high holidays. They celebrate Ramadan. What are the odds
Speaker 2: you think on Ramadan? They say, nope, you cannot say
Speaker 2: anything Muslim on Ramadan, like Easter is a Christian holiday.
Speaker 2: And these bastards, I mean this, it really does. They're
Speaker 2: telling children when you celebrate Easter at the White House,
Speaker 2: it cannot actually be Easter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I rarely, and I'm going to ask your permission.
Speaker 1: I know what the answer is going to be. But
Speaker 1: I don't share our texts, but I'd like to read
Speaker 1: part of your text today that you mentioned. Is that
Speaker 1: Is that okay?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Sure? So one of the scriptures that you sent in
Speaker 1: a text that I got from you, it says he
Speaker 1: is not there, he has risen. Remember how he told
Speaker 1: you while he was still with you in Galilee, the
Speaker 1: son of Man must be delivered over to the hands
Speaker 1: of sinners, be crucified, and on the third day be
Speaker 1: raised again Luke twenty four six through seven. Now I
Speaker 1: love that verse and you sent it to me this morning.
Speaker 1: Thank you for that, by the way. And it was
Speaker 1: one that I was thinking about that kids learn. In fact,
Speaker 1: my kids in school learned Luke twenty four six and
Speaker 1: seven this week. It was their memory verse. What if
Speaker 1: a kid wanted to put that on an egg? My
Speaker 1: kid would have thought of that, right, because this is
Speaker 1: part of the holiday, and they would have been I
Speaker 1: guess disqualified or not even be allowed in the Easter
Speaker 1: egg art contest of the White House because that would
Speaker 1: be religious texts, which would be I guess extremism in
Speaker 1: the eyes of the White House.
Speaker 2: So let me read more of the White House's official guidance.
Speaker 1: Quote.
Speaker 2: Selected designs representing the unique experiences and stories of National
Speaker 2: Guard children will be brought to life on real hend
Speaker 2: eggs by talented egg artists from across the country and
Speaker 2: display at the White House this Easter and Passover season.
Speaker 2: Children can't promote material that promotes quote bigotry, racism, hatred,
Speaker 2: or harm against any group or individual. Okay, I'm good
Speaker 2: with all that. You shouldn't be promoting that or promotes
Speaker 2: discrimination based on race, gender, religion, nationality, disability, sexual orientation,
Speaker 2: or age. So under their definition, anything that acknowledges Christianity
Speaker 2: presumably is promoting discrimination based on religion. If you quote
Speaker 2: Jesus as saying, I'm the way the truth in the life.
Speaker 2: No man comes to the Father but by me. That
Speaker 2: according to the White House rules. Nope, you're not allowed
Speaker 2: to acknowledge it on Easter. Easter is the celebration. Why
Speaker 2: are we having a holiday? Do we just somehow think
Speaker 2: bunny rabbits lay eggs?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 2: What is the purpose of this event? And that level
Speaker 2: there is.
Speaker 1: A can we call it that towards Christians? That's what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: It is abiding hate for people of faith generally, but
Speaker 2: especially for Christians. And that's true for Catholics, that's true
Speaker 2: for Evangelicals, it's true. Look, if you celebrated Easter, I
Speaker 2: mean I want to ask you if you were asked, hey,
Speaker 2: do you want to paint an egg for the White House?
Speaker 2: And would it occur to you if it was an
Speaker 2: Easter egg to say something about what the holiday is about? Well,
Speaker 2: that is prohibited under the rules from this White House.
Speaker 2: I got to say that really pisses me off.
Speaker 1: This also makes me go back to when people said
Speaker 1: that conservatives like myself. I don't know if you've ever
Speaker 1: tweet something like this, So I'll ask you. You know
Speaker 1: when several years ago when we talk about I say Christmas,
Speaker 1: the real meaning of Christmas under attack and people are
Speaker 1: trying to take Christ out of Christmas, and then the
Speaker 1: left is like, you guys are crazy, You're paranoid, you're
Speaker 1: radical extremists. Christians, no one's trying to take Christ out
Speaker 1: of Christmas and the slippery and then you fast forward
Speaker 1: to this Easter. The White House is saying nothing religious
Speaker 1: on the Easter eggs. We're making, you know, Eastern the
Speaker 1: same as Transgender Visibility Day. And I'm sitting there going, see,
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy. I know what you're doing, and I'm
Speaker 1: watching it and I'm calling you out on it. And
Speaker 1: you guys don't understand that we understand when we should
Speaker 1: be offended by what you're trying to do, which is
Speaker 1: have Christmas without Christ, have Easter without the Resurrection.
Speaker 2: So I'll tell you in the Senate, I mean, there's
Speaker 2: a consistent divide. Democrats won't say Merry Christmas. It is
Speaker 2: only Republicans. And actually when you say Marry Christmas, you
Speaker 2: almost feel like a crazy rebel. I mean, I mean
Speaker 2: it is a bizarre you know, it's it's happy holidays,
Speaker 2: but you're kind of like, gee, what what is the
Speaker 2: holiday you're you're celebrating And by the way, look for
Speaker 2: my Jewish friends when they're celebrating Jewish holidays. I am
Speaker 2: happy to wish them the best celebrating holidays that are
Speaker 2: important to their faith. But but but as a Christian,
Speaker 2: I celebrate Christmas, I celebrate Easter. And for the left,
Speaker 2: look that they're antagonistic to faith across the board. But
Speaker 2: there is a particular vitriol, hatred, antagonism, resentment, all of
Speaker 2: those are there to Christianity in particular, which is why
Speaker 2: they literally want to erase Christ from Christmas. It's apparently
Speaker 2: about a fat guy in a sleigh, and they want
Speaker 2: to erase Christ from Easter. It's apparently about bunny rabbits
Speaker 2: and eggs.
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Speaker 1: There are tons of warnings and data points and history
Speaker 1: that back up that when you mandate ridiculous wages, it
Speaker 1: ends up hurting the people that you claim you're helping
Speaker 1: the most. Specifically on big increases in minimum wage. Now,
Speaker 1: the federal government has a minimum wage, but states have
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Speaker 1: They have the highest unemployment rate of any state in
Speaker 1: America right now, and they've just gone and pushed their
Speaker 1: twenty dollars minimum wage. When it comes to fast food workers,
Speaker 1: they did this and guess what happened over eight hundred
Speaker 1: For example, pizza delivery drivers got noticed that they were
Speaker 1: being laid off and they deliver for Pizza Hut because
Speaker 1: it is unsustainable to pay twenty dollars an hour to
Speaker 1: deliver pizzas, and yet Democrats are still cheering on this insanity.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a lot more than that. So this new
Speaker 2: law goes into effect today Monday, and it is twenty
Speaker 2: dollars an hour for fast food workers at chains with
Speaker 2: more than sixty locations in the United.
Speaker 1: States, now in California, in the in the United States.
Speaker 2: And by the way, that is a twenty five percent
Speaker 2: increase from the old minimum wage of sixteen dollars an
Speaker 2: hour in California. And the layoffs have been massive and
Speaker 2: far reaching. So Pizza Hut laid off more than one
Speaker 2: tho two hundred delivery workers that was in Pizza Hut.
Speaker 2: Round Table Pizza chain of about four hundred locations, said
Speaker 2: it will lay off one two and eighty delivery workers.
Speaker 2: Ex Caliber Pizza, one of his franchises, has plans to
Speaker 2: cut seventy three drivers workers, twenty percent of its workforce.
Speaker 2: And by the way, McDonald's, Chipotle, Jack in the Box
Speaker 2: and other change say, what they're going to do is
Speaker 2: raise the menu prices to offset the costs. By the
Speaker 2: way they're doing more so, California based El Poyo Loco
Speaker 2: has told investors. It is automating some of its salsa
Speaker 2: making to mitigate minimum wage rises. Jack in the Box
Speaker 2: is testing friar robots and automatic drink dispensers. And understand,
Speaker 2: none of this is surprising. This is to be predicted.
Speaker 2: In California. There are roughly five hundred and fifty seven
Speaker 2: thousand fast food workers and they're about thirty thousand restaurants
Speaker 2: in California. This minimum wage increase is going to drive
Speaker 2: some of those restaurants out of business. Some of them
Speaker 2: will go broke. When they go broke, all of their
Speaker 2: employees will lose their jobs, both the minimum wage employees
Speaker 2: and the higher ones, the managers. Everyone will lose their
Speaker 2: job when the restaurants go broke. The ones that don't
Speaker 2: go broke, we are seeing literally thousands upon thousands of
Speaker 2: people being fired. And by the way, the pizza places,
Speaker 2: what they're saying they're gonna do is they're going to
Speaker 2: use door Dash and Uber Eats. They're just gonna use
Speaker 2: third party apps, and they're they're firing all their drivers.
Speaker 2: So and it's interesting that that there was a quote.
Speaker 2: There's an article in the Daily Mayor Male that quotes
Speaker 2: quotes one guy Michael o'heeda, twenty nine, who's a pizza
Speaker 2: Hunt driver in Ontario, California, and he said he received
Speaker 2: a notice from his pizza Hunt franchisee in December warming
Speaker 2: him that his last day would be in February. And
Speaker 2: here's his quote, Pizza Hutt was my career for nearly
Speaker 2: a decade, and with little to no notice, it was
Speaker 2: taken away. Well, there are consequences when you elect radical
Speaker 2: democrats in California has done it across the board. They
Speaker 2: have every state wide elected officials a Democrat. They have
Speaker 2: super majorities in both houses of the legislature. And understand,
Speaker 2: over and over and over again, when you jack up
Speaker 2: the minimum wage, this is what happens. And one of
Speaker 2: the things I like to do when people say, well,
Speaker 2: we want a twenty dollars minimum wage that helps people, Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: if it helps people, why would you stop at twenty?
Speaker 2: Why not fifty dollars an hour? Why not a hundred?
Speaker 2: Why not one thousand dollars an hour? Let's pass a
Speaker 2: law that everyone must be paid at least one thousand
Speaker 2: dollars an hour. Wouldn't that magically mean that money would
Speaker 2: rain into the hands of everyone isn't that how it
Speaker 2: works been.
Speaker 1: Apparently, if if you've never been to school and you
Speaker 1: don't know how the economy, how economy work, and how
Speaker 1: inflation works, and yet you have warnings. We've seen this
Speaker 1: time and time again. There are professors that will come
Speaker 1: out and say, when you increase sinum wage, you think
Speaker 1: you're helping people, but in reality, the costs of basic
Speaker 1: food and milk and bread and all these things go up,
Speaker 1: so it actually takes more money out of their pocket.
Speaker 1: And yet they still keep doing it. And this on
Speaker 1: top of the fact that they already had the highest
Speaker 1: unemployment rate of any state in America right now, this
Speaker 1: is only going to make it not just a little
Speaker 1: bit worse, a lot worse.
Speaker 2: So let me tell you, Ben, I spend a lot
Speaker 2: of time actually talking to small business owners and restaurant
Speaker 2: tours in particular. I love restaurant tours, and I tell
Speaker 2: whether it's Burger King franchises or Mexican restaurants or also
Speaker 2: I meat up with all sorts of restaurant owners, both
Speaker 2: in Texas and when they come to Washington.
Speaker 1: And one of the things I explain it when you
Speaker 1: say restaurant tour, because I don't think people understand exactly
Speaker 1: what that means.
Speaker 2: It's someone who owns a restaurant. Someone who owns a restaurant,
Speaker 2: and sometimes they have one restaurant. Sometimes they'll have a
Speaker 2: dozen Jack in the Boxes or a dozen Burger Kings,
Speaker 2: or But when I meet with restaurant owners, one of
Speaker 2: the things I tell them all the time is I say, listen,
Speaker 2: you may think you're in the food business, but I
Speaker 2: actually don't think you're in the food business. You're in
Speaker 2: the opportunity business. Because for millions and millions of Americans,
Speaker 2: their first job is in a restaurant. And one of
Speaker 2: the things I do all the time, Ben when I'm
Speaker 2: at a town hall, I've got, you know, three four
Speaker 2: hundred people in a room, I'll ask them how many
Speaker 2: people in this room have ever worked at a restaurant. Inevitably,
Speaker 2: about half the hands in the room go up. Now,
Speaker 2: the argument lefties say is, well, you know, if you're
Speaker 2: making ten bucks an hour flipping burgers, you can't feed
Speaker 2: a family of four on ten bucks an hour. And
Speaker 2: you know what, they're right, It's actually very hard to
Speaker 2: feed a family of four on ten bucks an hour.
Speaker 2: Here's the problem. Most people are not feeding a family
Speaker 2: of fourping burgers. What happens and what restaurants are all
Speaker 2: about is they're often the entry level job. So you
Speaker 2: get a lot of teenagers, You get a lot of sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,
Speaker 2: nineteen year old it's their first job, and they learn skills.
Speaker 2: They learn to show up. They learned to show up
Speaker 2: on time that they learned to interact with customers, they
Speaker 2: learned to make change, they learned to work hard, they
Speaker 2: learned to be disciplined, all of the skills that enable
Speaker 2: them to get promoted. So very few people spend their
Speaker 2: entire career flipping burgers at ten bucks an hour. That's
Speaker 2: an entry level job. And by the way, if you
Speaker 2: do it and do a good job, you almost inevitably
Speaker 2: get promoted. So let me give a personal story from
Speaker 2: my family background. When my dad came from Cuba, it
Speaker 2: was nineteen fifty seven and he came to Texas. He
Speaker 2: was eighteen. He had nothing, he was broke, and he
Speaker 2: couldn't speak English. So the very first job he got
Speaker 2: was washing dishes at a restaurant and he made fifty
Speaker 2: cents an hour. Now why did he get that job?
Speaker 2: Because he couldn't speak English and a lot of jobs.
Speaker 2: Most jobs in Texas at the time in nineteen fifty
Speaker 2: seven you had to speak English. You didn't have to
Speaker 2: speak English to wash a dish. So that's what he
Speaker 2: could do with the skill set he had at that time. Now,
Speaker 2: I will point out that by the time that he
Speaker 2: and my mom had me, he wasn't making fifty cents
Speaker 2: an hour anymore. But his first job let him get started.
Speaker 2: And by the way, he was a freshman at ut
Speaker 2: that money at the time he paid his way through school.
Speaker 2: But what happened is very quickly thereafter he started learning English,
Speaker 2: and when he learned English, she got promoted. His second
Speaker 2: job was at the same restaurant, and it was as
Speaker 2: a cook, and a second job, he made eighty cents
Speaker 2: an hour. Now he thought a cook was a much
Speaker 2: better job than a dishwasher, and it was an eighty
Speaker 2: cents an hour was a lot better than fifty cents
Speaker 2: an hour. His next job after that was as a
Speaker 2: teaching assistant at University at Texas, teaching undergrad's math, and
Speaker 2: his next job after that was as a computer programmer
Speaker 2: at IBM. But he doesn't get those subsequent jobs without
Speaker 2: that first job washing dishes, and the left doesn't get
Speaker 2: that when you do this, the people who are being
Speaker 2: laid off, by the way, are predominantly low skilled, low income,
Speaker 2: and very young. The majority of people who California just
Speaker 2: laid off, the statistics tell us, are very likely to
Speaker 2: be Hispanic or African American, to be teenagers with limited skills,
Speaker 2: and this was their first job where they were getting skills.
Speaker 2: And Democrats are pulling up the ladder and saying, you
Speaker 2: don't get to get skills. Instead, you should be unemployed.
Speaker 2: But guess what, we got a welfare check for you,
Speaker 2: and you can just stop working right now because we'll
Speaker 2: pay you as long as you vote Democrat.
Speaker 1: Here's my question, and it comes back to California really
Speaker 1: full circle. You have all these people that are laid off.
Speaker 1: I wonder how many of them will not vote for
Speaker 1: Democrats next time number one or two. They just say, Okay,
Speaker 1: it is what it is, and I'll get some free
Speaker 1: cash for a little bit and then I'll find another job.
Speaker 1: Or is there gonna be a turning point do you
Speaker 1: think center where it gets so bad with the absurdity
Speaker 1: of twenty dollars an hour, twenty five an hour, whatever
Speaker 1: it is and the sustainability of it, that there's no
Speaker 1: other way but for people's eyes to be open. I
Speaker 1: just don't have a lot of confidence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I don't know, and I suspect it will
Speaker 2: be some of both. So one of the things, again
Speaker 2: that a lot of Democrats don't understand, is that in
Speaker 2: any business you have a trade off between labor and capital,
Speaker 2: and so you have a choice which one to invest in.
Speaker 2: So the example I use when my dad was washing
Speaker 2: dishes making fifty cents an hour. Thank god, some well
Speaker 2: meaning liberal didn't come along and pass a two dollars
Speaker 2: minimum wage law. Now they might have said, I want
Speaker 2: to help those poor people making fifty cent an hour,
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna mandate you cannot pay anyone less than
Speaker 2: two dollars an hour. You know what they would have done.
Speaker 2: They would have fired my father. Yeah, and they would
Speaker 2: have bought a dishwasher. That you have a trade off
Speaker 2: do you use labor or do you use capital. Notice
Speaker 2: when I was going through in California that they're discussing
Speaker 2: stores that are that they're looking at automated salsa makers,
Speaker 2: that are looking at robotic French fry friars, that are
Speaker 2: looking at automated soft drink dispensers. Have you ever been
Speaker 2: to a restaurant and ordered an iPad or in a kiosk?
Speaker 1: Yes, and it's becoming more regular now.
Speaker 2: And you know what that is. This is this is
Speaker 2: actually ancient history. But I used to describe iPads and
Speaker 2: kiosks as a fifteen dollars waitress. Which is what happened
Speaker 2: is some well meaning Democrats said you got to pay
Speaker 2: people fifteen dollars an hour. And you know what, the
Speaker 2: restaurant owner said, I can't stay in business. The math
Speaker 2: doesn't work. So I'm gonna fire the waitress. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: fire the waiter, and I'm gonna put a piece of
Speaker 2: metal and you know what, I have to pay the
Speaker 2: piece of metal zero dollars an hour. Now I've got
Speaker 2: some upfront capital, but once I put the iPad of
Speaker 2: the kioska, I don't have to pay them an hourly wage.
Speaker 2: And when you jack up the cost of labor, inevitably
Speaker 2: the result is people lose their jobs. And the people
Speaker 2: who lose it understand who democrats hurt. They hurt the
Speaker 2: most vulnerable. By the way, the same thing is true
Speaker 2: when Democrats did shutdowns during COVID when they shut schools down,
Speaker 2: the people who got hurt the most were low income kids.
Speaker 2: They were African American kids, they were Hispanic kids. The
Speaker 2: data show we have the biggest learning gap since we
Speaker 2: have been recording learning results. And by the way, the
Speaker 2: racial gap grew more during the COVID lockdowns than in
Speaker 2: any period in recorded history. So understand, this is what
Speaker 2: democrats do. And by the way, if your parents were rich,
Speaker 2: guess what the school shut downs. They were inconvenient, but
Speaker 2: you could hire a tutor, you had resources. Your kids.
Speaker 2: Rich kids didn't fall behind all that much during the lockdowns.
Speaker 2: Low income kids if they had a single mom with
Speaker 2: three four kids, for millions of them, they essentially didn't
Speaker 2: go to school for months and months and months on end.
Speaker 2: And again, this is what Democrat policies systematically do. They
Speaker 2: hurt the most vulnerable while at the same time they're
Speaker 2: sermonizing about how they want to help the most vulnerable.
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Speaker 1: to ask you about saying that happened this last week,
Speaker 1: and it was a story that was I was even
Speaker 1: shocked by it. The former RNC chairwoman was hired by
Speaker 1: NBC News to become a commentator slash NBC News. She
Speaker 1: was hired, it came out, and what ended up happening
Speaker 1: was virtually every name that was a host of a show,
Speaker 1: a big talent at NBC, including me. The press said,
Speaker 1: we're not going to work with her, she's a radical
Speaker 1: Trump extremist. January sixther We're not going to work with her,
Speaker 1: and they literally ripped her on air in a way
Speaker 1: that I didn't even think they would do, but they
Speaker 1: did it. And here's a montage of just how bad
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 3: Joined by former RNC chair Roni McDaniel in her first
Speaker 3: interview since stepping down as party chair. In full disclosure
Speaker 3: to our viewers, this interview was scheduled weeks before it
Speaker 3: was announced that McDaniel would become a paid NBC News contributor,
Speaker 3: will be a news interview and I was not involved
Speaker 3: in her hiring.
Speaker 6: I think our bosses owe you an apology for putting
Speaker 6: you in this situation. And look, there's a reason why
Speaker 6: there's a lot of journalists at NBC News uncomfortable with this,
Speaker 6: because many of our professional dealings with the RNC over
Speaker 6: the last six years have been met with catilating, have
Speaker 6: been met with characters fascination.
Speaker 3: We weren't asked our opinion of the hiring, but if
Speaker 3: we were, we would have strongly objected to it.
Speaker 4: At NBC News, either wittingly or unwittingly, is teaching election
Speaker 4: deniers that what they can do stretches well beyond appearing
Speaker 4: on our air and interviews to pedal lies about the
Speaker 4: sanctity and integrity of our elections so that they can
Speaker 4: do that as one of us, as badge carrying employees
Speaker 4: of NBC News, there.
Speaker 6: Is an easy way to avoid the controversy NBC News
Speaker 6: has stumbled into.
Speaker 1: Don't hire anyone close to the crimes.
Speaker 6: She literally backed an illegal scheme to an election in
Speaker 6: the state of Mission.
Speaker 5: That is the type of experience that Ronald McDaniel brings
Speaker 5: to the table, and that experience does not get us
Speaker 5: to a deeper understanding of anything in the public debate.
Speaker 5: I want to associate myself with all my colleagues, both
Speaker 5: at MSNBC and at NBC News who have voiced loud
Speaker 5: and principled objections to our company putting on the payroll
Speaker 5: someone who hasn't just attacked us as journalists, but someone
Speaker 5: who is part of an ongoing project to get rid
Speaker 5: of our system of government.
Speaker 1: Senator that was clearly orchestrated by the talent. They were
Speaker 1: not going to work with her, and they were going
Speaker 1: to ruin her career before it even started.
Speaker 2: Well, look, NBC News sadly is a joke MSNBC News.
Speaker 2: It would be a joke if anyone watched it. But
Speaker 2: it's just sort of a left wing primal scream and
Speaker 2: the utter hypocrisy of everyone. So much of this was
Speaker 2: started by Chuck Todd, and Chuck Todd had this whole screed,
Speaker 2: this self righteous, holier than the now screed that he
Speaker 2: did on Meet the Press. Now here's an interesting bit
Speaker 2: you may not know. Do you know how Chuck Todd
Speaker 2: got his start? How was that as a staffer in
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two for the presidential campaign of Senator Tom Harkin,
Speaker 2: a Democrat. So Chuck Todd was a Democrat staffer on
Speaker 2: a presidential campaign. Mind, you're not just in passing. But
Speaker 2: let's go back to Chuck Todd's predecessor, Tim Russert. Tim
Speaker 2: Russer the gold standard of Meet the Press, the gold
Speaker 2: standard of NBC News. Did you know what Tim Russer
Speaker 2: did before he went NBC.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out and a lemon and say a
Speaker 1: Democratic staffer.
Speaker 2: He worked for US Senator Daniel Patrick Boynihan, a Democrat
Speaker 2: from New York. He served as special counsel to Daniel
Speaker 2: Patrick Boynihan. He served as chief of staff to Daniel
Speaker 2: Patrick Boynihan, and then in nineteen eighty three he became
Speaker 2: a top aid to New York Governor Mario Cuomo, also
Speaker 2: a Democrat. So he was a senior Democrat staffer over
Speaker 2: and over again for multiple Democrats, and then he went
Speaker 2: to NBC News. Let's fast forward George Stephanopolis. Where did
Speaker 2: George Stephanopolis make his name as a senior press hack
Speaker 2: for the Clinton White House? He was a political staffer
Speaker 2: his entire life. By the way, he's the premier political
Speaker 2: commentator at ABC now. And let's not forget Jen Saki
Speaker 2: happily ensconced at MSNBC. She was, of course Joe Biden's
Speaker 2: White House Press secretary. She stood up there and spin,
Speaker 2: baby spin, baby spin, and she got hired basically straight
Speaker 2: from the White House, where she continues to do the
Speaker 2: same job. She is still, as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 2: the White House Press secretary. She's actually a much better
Speaker 2: press secretary than Kareem John Pierre. Why because Kring John
Speaker 2: Pierre is not very good at her job. All she
Speaker 2: does is lie. To Sak's credit, she actually rarely directly lied.
Speaker 2: She just pivoted, she circled back, she spun, but she
Speaker 2: rarely made flat out, demonstrably provable falsehoods, whereas Krane John
Speaker 2: Pierre seems to do so on an almost daily basis.
Speaker 2: But the entirety of that, understand, the position of NBC
Speaker 2: is essentially, we cannot tolerate an actual Republican who works
Speaker 2: for us. And by the way, there were a few
Speaker 2: folks who got online and they said, no, no, no, that's
Speaker 2: not true. That's not true. That's not true. Because Nicole
Speaker 2: Wallace is on MSNBC and she was a Republican staffer,
Speaker 2: and Joe Scarborough he was a Republican congressman. Well that's true,
Speaker 2: they were in a prior life Republicans, but both Nicole
Speaker 2: Wallace and Joe Scarboro voted for Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: So the position of NBC News is we cannot actually
Speaker 2: hire anybody who voted for Donald Trump. As long as
Speaker 2: you vote for Democrats, you could have been a Republican
Speaker 2: long in your distant life, but you must have abandoned
Speaker 2: half of the country and decided they're evil deplorables. Those
Speaker 2: are the only people we are willing to hire.
Speaker 1: Welcome to MSNBC and NBC News as you described it.
Speaker 1: And again I'm not a big person advocating or supporting,
Speaker 1: like oh, sue somebody, but I hope she gets a
Speaker 1: big payday the way they treat her, and apparently she
Speaker 1: found out she was fired through media reports, not even
Speaker 1: from a phone call from NBC News. I hope that
Speaker 1: she gets a huge payout from this. She deserves every
Speaker 1: dime after watching her colleagues run her name through the
Speaker 1: mud the way they did and treat her the way
Speaker 1: they did.
Speaker 2: So and let me make an important point on this.
Speaker 2: So MSNBC has a niche as a hard left network,
Speaker 2: that's why they have so few viewers.
Speaker 1: But they're hard left.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you something, Why does NBC I mean,
Speaker 2: and what NBC pretends to actually be a real journalistic outfit.
Speaker 2: Why do they have a subsidiary that is just a
Speaker 2: hard left platform. By the way, they all decry Fox News,
Speaker 2: but MSNBC is hard left, unapologetically so. And by the way,
Speaker 2: you know what the MS stands for Microsoft. Why exactly
Speaker 2: is Microsoft funding hard left propaganda? Why is NBC? Why
Speaker 2: are they okay with a network that has an explicit
Speaker 2: ideological agenda? And one of the points to understand, it
Speaker 2: was NBC News that hired Ron McDaniel. And I'm going
Speaker 2: to make the case to you there is no difference
Speaker 2: between MSNBC and NBC. They are one and the same.
Speaker 2: NBC no longer pretends to be journalists. They are advocates.
Speaker 2: They are MSNBC. They are the left wing of the
Speaker 2: Democrat Party. There's a reason, by the way, in the
Speaker 2: last presidential cycle they were thrown out of moderating because
Speaker 2: they're so hardcore and partisan. Now, I guess somebody in
Speaker 2: their corporate leader ship decided they wanted to at least
Speaker 2: have a nod of have somebody on the staff who
Speaker 2: had voted with half of the country. But let me
Speaker 2: ask you, Ben, so you actually have been a paid
Speaker 2: conservative at a left wing network at CNN, you were
Speaker 2: paid for a number of years. What was that like then,
Speaker 2: and give us your perspectives from having been in Rana's shoes,
Speaker 2: although at a different time.
Speaker 1: It's funny that you asked this because I was doing
Speaker 1: out Numbered, hosting out Numbered on I think it was
Speaker 1: Wednesday when this story broke and they came to me.
Speaker 1: They're like, look, you've got an instume perspective. I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was hired for My contract was extended when I
Speaker 1: was at CN and I was there totally seven years,
Speaker 1: but the last year was just and this is how
Speaker 1: much it even changed at CNN. They used to want
Speaker 1: when they when Jeff Zecker took over a Grand Debate,
Speaker 1: they wanted conservatives to have people that they thought were
Speaker 1: well representing them so that consertaives wouldn't you know, basically
Speaker 1: immediately skip over the channel one Stunnald Trump one in
Speaker 1: sixteen Wills came off at CNN they hated him. They
Speaker 1: hated and they yelled and screamed and tried to turn
Speaker 1: you into bigot, racist homophobes NFOI everything they could and
Speaker 1: try to ruin your career when you were on because
Speaker 1: the couldn't yell at Trump, but they could yell at
Speaker 1: you and you were supporting Trump or defending Trump. But
Speaker 1: in the last year that I was there, they hired
Speaker 1: me just to have my name on a piece of
Speaker 1: paper as it get out a free jail card when
Speaker 1: someone said you guys have no conservatives, and they would
Speaker 1: say no, no, no, no, no, look over here, we have
Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson. In my last year, I did two appearances
Speaker 1: on CNN. Now that's absurd from a financial standpoint. If
Speaker 1: you were a financial person, why would you hire a guy,
Speaker 1: give him a salary and only have him come to
Speaker 1: work two days out of three hundred and sixty five
Speaker 1: days in a year. One of those two appearances was
Speaker 1: after the Hollywood Reporter did a story about me being benched,
Speaker 1: and then they put me on the next day on
Speaker 1: a Saturday, for four minutes, just to say no, see
Speaker 1: he's not benched. We just used him today, and then
Speaker 1: never used me again, and with Ronald McDowell. I have
Speaker 1: to say with her, I think that's part of what
Speaker 1: they wanted. They wanted to go into this election cycle
Speaker 1: saying noo, we've got a token concern. This lady just
Speaker 1: ran the RNC. We see we're not biased. We've got
Speaker 1: her on the air.
Speaker 2: By the way, and i'll tell you Jensaki, So as
Speaker 2: Verdict listeners know, my latest book, Unwoke, How to Defeat
Speaker 2: Cultural Marxism in America. When it came out, I did
Speaker 2: a ton of radio interviews. We actually called an offer
Speaker 2: to go on Jensaki show. She said no, no, we
Speaker 2: don't want you. We don't that they're and by the way,
Speaker 2: the view also turned me down. So the last two
Speaker 2: books I did previously, I went on the view for
Speaker 2: both of them, and and look I.
Speaker 1: And the ratings were huge.
Speaker 2: When the ratings were massive, and and and I don't
Speaker 2: think it is an overstatement to say it did not
Speaker 2: go well for the host because they didn't know what
Speaker 2: they were talking about. And I pointed out they didn't
Speaker 2: know what they were talking about. Look with with Whoopy Goldberg,
Speaker 2: when I went on for my book Justice Corrupted, How
Speaker 2: how the Left is weaponized the legal system. I went on,
Speaker 2: and all the hosts of the view begin screaming at me,
Speaker 2: and they're like, you know, you Republicans are all election deniers,
Speaker 2: election deniers, and and they're used to everyone who agrees
Speaker 2: with them, so they think that that's just like a
Speaker 2: kill shot. And I said, oh, you mean like when
Speaker 2: when Hillary Clinton insisted that she won and that Donald
Speaker 2: Trump's election was illegitimate. She said she didn't say that,
Speaker 2: so I had the quote and I read it out loud,
Speaker 2: or I said, do you mean when when Al Gore
Speaker 2: said that George W. Bush was illegitimately elected and the
Speaker 2: election was stolen from him? Or do you mean like
Speaker 2: when Stacy Abrams said that she was the governor of
Speaker 2: Georgia and that there was illegitimate or do you mean
Speaker 2: like when Joe Biden said George W. Bush was illegitimate elected.
Speaker 2: I just read quote after quote after quote. They'd never
Speaker 2: heard any of them, by the way. What we later
Speaker 2: they had Chelsea Clinton on to say, my mother never
Speaker 2: said that quote that she's on TV saying, and that
Speaker 2: I read verbatim. But then the next exchange with Whoopy
Speaker 2: was really interesting because after saying election denial, which is
Speaker 2: their sort of first response. Then she said, and you
Speaker 2: guys are all a bunch of angry, rioting criminals, to
Speaker 2: which I laughed and said, really, you mean what about
Speaker 2: the entire year of Black Lives Matter and Antifa riots
Speaker 2: that burned American cities across this country for a year,
Speaker 2: And Whoopy looks at me, completely confused, and she says,
Speaker 2: I don't know what an antifa riot is. I have
Speaker 2: no idea what that is. And it was they're in
Speaker 2: such an echo chamber they will only talk to people
Speaker 2: who agree to them, and sadly they're a couple of million,
Speaker 2: mostly women watching the view who are just listening to
Speaker 2: partisan propaganda. And then there were there are no Antifa riots.
Speaker 2: That doesn't exist. And by the way, for the last
Speaker 2: book Unwoke, the View said Nope, we don't want you.
Speaker 2: And that didn't go well for us at all. And Jensaki,
Speaker 2: who I've never been on her show, you would think
Speaker 2: she might be interested. And by the way, I'm perfectly
Speaker 2: happy her to come attack me and scream and be
Speaker 2: a crazy nut if she wanted to. I mean, I
Speaker 2: was not expecting a love fest, but their view was sorry, no,
Speaker 2: we don't want you on it all. We have one
Speaker 2: view and we will never ever ever have anything to
Speaker 2: the contrary. That is MSNBC and apparently that's NBC two.
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