1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Why from our nations this budget thing is going to 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: do nothing space forts. I still think it's interesting President 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: Trump not playing his cards yet. Headlines Policy and politics 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: colliding Floomberg Sound on the insids, the influencers, the insides. 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: I would rather see a congressional solution. It's part of 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: my DNA. The Senate map in looks a lot different 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: than it looked in. President Trump was sent here to 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: smash conventional norms in a sense, Bernie Sanders has already washed. 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Surley on Bloomberg 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: one oh five point seven m h D two. President 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: Trump plots his impeachment trial strategy. Will bring you the 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: latest from inside to the President's legal team, and the 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: latest from the campaign trail. And this did you see 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: this be? Buddha g Edge and Amy Klobuchar are criticized 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: for skipping the black Voter event for Democrats. How's that 16 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: going to play out on the campaign trail? And we'll 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: dive into the week that was and one a week 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: it was Trade Dizzy ng. I'm still coming up for 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: air and I'm going to bring you an exclusive interview 20 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: that I did earlier today for Bloomberg Television with Senator 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: Mark Warner, Democrat from Virginia. He says he agrees with 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: one thing with President Trump's administration. On faalway, you don't 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: want to miss that. You've got an all star panel 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: here to dive into. Let's start with impeachment, uh, and 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: the president's legal team and Edgutants here Bloomberg Politics editor, 26 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: have you come up for are yet? Uh? Let me 27 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: get to the end of today and then I will 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: say yes at your end of today and when the 29 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: show went depends on a background. Call it guy going 30 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: on right now. James Home and national political correspondent for 31 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: The Post and author of the Daily two oh two. 32 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: One of my actions I read it every day. Thank 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: you and UH, busy week for you crazy? But what 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: was your craziest part of the week. I think what 35 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: was amazing was the fact that usmc A passed minutes 36 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: before the Senate impeachment trial started, and and I really 37 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: just think it was kind of such a jarring extposition 38 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: between an eighty nine to ten vote to pass this 39 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: major trade agreement and then immediately going into the rancor 40 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: and partisanship of this the only the third impeachment trial 41 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: in US history. Yeah, it was, it was. And I 42 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: remember and David Marks here, he's the deputy he's the 43 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: deputy news editor at the Washington Examiner. I remember when 44 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: President Trump had all the CEOs at the White House 45 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: the beginning of the week and he was listening them 46 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: all off with with members of Congress in the Republican 47 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: Party for US China Phase one laha Vice Premier China 48 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: is in there. And he actually got a note from 49 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: Secretary Manution on the podium, David Mark, deputy editor at 50 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: the Washington Examiner, and it was an alert that the 51 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: lawmakers in the East Room they had to go to 52 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: a vote on impeachment to be present for it. I mean, 53 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: it was just that it was such a like illustration 54 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: of this particular moment in America and takes a certain 55 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: amount of compartmentalizing, as Bill Clinton put it back during 56 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: his impeachment days, to be able to pivot from one 57 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: thing to another literally within minutes of each other sometimes. 58 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: And you mentioned Clinton impeachment. Let's talk about Kent Starr. 59 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 1: There's a name for you, Anna, the president's legal team. 60 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: What do we know break it down for us? Yeah, 61 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: so we got three new names for the president's legal 62 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: team today, Alan dershowitz Kin Star and Robert ray Um, 63 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: And you know, this kind of gets Trump one of 64 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: the things that he was looking for, and that is 65 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 1: a robust, made for TV defense that is not just 66 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: for the Senate Chamber but also for the viewers back home. 67 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: All along he has said he wants to use the 68 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: Senate trial as a way to present his case, clear 69 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: his name, dismiss what he would call bogus charges from 70 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: the House. And you know, this is the team to 71 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: do it. He's seen them on TV and this is 72 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: what he's going to want them to kind of do 73 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: in the Senate Chamber is to say, you know, dismiss 74 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: this as absurd as the President thinks it is. Yeah. 75 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: One of the funniest moments today, wildest moments was Monica 76 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: Lewinsky tweeting right after official announced that Ken Starr was 77 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: going to be representing the president to say, this is 78 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: one of those days I can't believe what's happening is happening, 79 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: and and it is a blast from the past, and 80 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: it is a reflection of kind of the reality TV 81 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: show presidency. One of the things that we saw yesterday 82 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: was there was a lot of somberness. There was, you know, 83 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: the pomp and circumstance of this trial that it was 84 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: for sure, but that's but it was such a juxtaposition 85 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: to the house my point. And and Donald Trump wants 86 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: for a while. I think he's wanted the fight. He 87 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: he appreciates the people who are kind of fighting hard 88 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: for him. Mitch McConnell has not wanted that a lot 89 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: of the Republican senators haven't wanted this to devolve into 90 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: a circus like atmosphere. And so the tension that we're 91 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: seeing and that, and I think that getting the names 92 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: of these defense attorneys shows the tension we're going to 93 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: see next week is between sort of what a lot 94 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: of the institutionalist Republicans in the Senate want and what 95 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: Trump and in his supporters want, which is sort of 96 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: smash mouth. They're they're playing they know they have the 97 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: votes to acquit him, They're trying to play for public 98 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: opinion in their base. I think it's a remarkable, David, 99 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: when when you look at the dynamics of where we're 100 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: headed here, and really the only question that I've been 101 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: asking lawmakers in both parties is how long is this 102 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: trial going to be because is it going to end 103 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: before the President's State of the Union address, or is 104 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: it going to be this remarkable moment the day after 105 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: the Iowa caucuses on February three, or the President's there 106 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: and the Supreme Court justices might not be there because 107 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: they didn't show up to Bill Clinton's Supreme Court or 108 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: they didn't show up to Bill Clinton's State of the 109 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: Union address following the last impeachment. As a as a 110 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: good source reminded me earlier today, and will will it happen? 111 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 1: I mean, when will it end? Well? The conventional wisdom 112 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: has been that it would be a short trial, as 113 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: short as potentially two weeks or so. But naming these 114 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: empeagement counsels for the Trump team suggests, as James said, 115 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: that it's more performance are than legal argument. Of course, 116 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: you have Ken Starr, known for the Whitewater investigation, Alan Dershowitz, 117 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: who is only supposed to give an opening statement. It's 118 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,559 Speaker 1: another character. There also Robert Ray, who succeeded Kent Starr 119 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: as Independent Council and is one arguably who drew the 120 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: most legal blood from Bill Clinton. He actually got him 121 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: to agree to forfeiting his law license for a number 122 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: of years, paying some court fines in agreement for not 123 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: indicting him right when he became a private citizen in 124 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: January two thousand one. So there's some real lingery history there, 125 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: and we're going to see the first kind of opening 126 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: salvo of that this weekend when we get some of 127 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: the deadlines for the trial documents that both the Trump 128 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: defense team and the House prosecutors the impeachment managers are 129 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: going to have to file. So by five pm tomorrow 130 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: we could get the first trial brief from the seven 131 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: members of the House of Representatives prosecuting the case, and 132 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: then by six pm we will probably see the first 133 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: response from the White House to the to the Senate 134 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: summons for the trial. But what are we going to 135 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: get anything new in these documents? The question that I 136 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: am looking to answer is whether or not they include 137 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: the evidence from Love Parnas. You know, that's the associate 138 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: of Rudy Giuliani who was indicted for um for uh 139 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: was it financial crimes or campaign finance? That's what it 140 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: was and um he So we have we have all 141 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: these new documents, text messages, voicemails from him that have 142 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: come out this week, and if that's included in the 143 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: House trial brief, that indicates that they're using more information 144 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: to back up their charges, and they've had when they 145 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: actually voted on the articles of peach. So that's in 146 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: terms of the legal documents, James, what about in terms 147 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: of the in terms of whether or not there's really 148 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: any risk of Republicans breaking it sounds like Republicans have 149 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: a better chance of recruiting Joe Manchin to join them 150 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: than of their being any Republicans joining someone like Doug Jones. 151 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: It's easy to forget he's in the Senate, James Friday Fire, 152 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: I didn't say it. If you're listening, go out senator drugs. 153 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,119 Speaker 1: That wasn't me. No when on the to your question, Kevin, 154 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: it really depends on the witnesses. That's the big wild 155 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: card right now. And to David's point that it also 156 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 1: is what impacts timing. So if they're trying to follow 157 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: the Bill Clinton model from you can wrap up in 158 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: two weeks if you don't have witnesses, but if you do, 159 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: that's going to add another five to ten days, yes 160 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: or no witnesses or no witnesses and not what you want. 161 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: Whether there was I think I think that there will 162 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: end up being pressure yes or no, yes witnesses yes 163 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: or no, depends on the package they put together. You know, 164 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: if it's it's gonna be it's gonna be a tough 165 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: vote for even something that happens when um well, two 166 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 1: weeks from after the White House and House present their 167 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: opening arguments. So depending on how long they set out 168 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: for a panel stays up next. What do Hillary Clinton 169 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: and Taylor Swift have in come? And I'm Kevin CEREALI 170 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: Chief Washington corresponded from Bloomberg TV and Radio. This is Bloomberg. 171 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Surley on 172 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg and one oh five point seven f MHD two. 173 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: I want people to take their vote really, really seriously, 174 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: because Lord knows what will happen if we don't retire 175 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: as a current incumbent. And his henchman, as Nancy Pelosi 176 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: so well described him, that was Hillary Clinton, the former 177 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: Democratic presidential nominee. Back in she was speaking in Pasadena, California. 178 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: She's got a new documentary out of roll documentary on 179 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: Hulu called Hillary, and so does Taylor Swift on Netflix. 180 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: According to the Instagram. It's the new podcast Everyone podcast 181 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: Now everyone has a Netflix or exactly which we'll get 182 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: a larger audience. Oh, I don't know. I'm Kevin Sirelichief 183 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: watching the correspondent for Broomberg TV and Radio James Holman 184 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: that he chimed in first. He's the national political correspondent 185 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 1: for the Post and he's the author of cord to 186 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: the Daily. Two to David Mark, deputy news editor at 187 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: the Washington Examiner, and Anna Edgerton Bloomer Politics Center. I'll 188 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: put you on the spot. Anna, who which David posed 189 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 1: the question? We can talk about it. Who's going to 190 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: watch more Hillary on Hulu or Taylor on Netflix. I 191 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: am the least qualified person to answer this. And you 192 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: know this about me that I don't engage in pop culture. 193 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: He's always like, what are you watching? I was like, 194 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: I have Netflix, I'm reading books. I'm a loser and 195 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: I'll watch both. Okay, because that's wet hold it again, 196 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: Thank you, David Um. Okay. Another crazy thing that we'll 197 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: talk about coming up was l s U was at 198 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: the White House and President Trump talk about weird juxtapositions 199 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: with trade policy and then impeachment. President Trump at the 200 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: White House talking about football and then talking about impeachment. 201 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: So what a weird Friday, Hillary and Taylor Swift if 202 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: l s U and Trump and impeachment anyway, But I 203 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: do want to talk about US China trade policy, and 204 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: coming up, I'm gonna play my interview with Senator Mark Warner, 205 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: he's a Democrat from Virginia, really about where the China 206 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: story goes next and James Home and you cover this 207 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: in the Post as well as in your new daily newsletter. 208 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: And I think that on issues of national security as 209 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: it relates to China, Huawei five G, there is so 210 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: much unity and you're going to hear that coming up 211 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: from Senator Mark Warner. And I'm curious whether or not 212 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: you're hearing from your reporting from your sources that Phase 213 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: two of the U. S. China Trade Deal would happen 214 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: before an election or waiting until after it will be. 215 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: I I interviewed Pat to me this night, the only 216 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: Republican senator who voted no on U S M c 217 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: A at nine Democrats to including Bernie Sanders. And it 218 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: was interesting because I asked to me that question, and uh, 219 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: and he you know, he's someone who kind of actually 220 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: is supports the president on China, supports taking a hard 221 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: line and believes that because he described China as a 222 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: revisionist power, that that makes it imperative to insist on 223 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: including some of that stuff in in any kind of agreement. 224 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: And people can go to the Washington Post dot com 225 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: to to read that interview that James had with Senator 226 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: Pat To me, a Republican from Pennsylvania, why was he 227 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: against U S m c A. He Uh, he thought 228 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: it really hurt the automobile industry. And he also was 229 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: really upset because it has a sunset window, and so 230 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: he says that's going to create uncertainty and it's gonna 231 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: hurt business investment because in twelve years we're gonna have 232 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: to go through this whole process again. As they start 233 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: the process, I think it's actually sixteen years for renegotiating it, 234 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: and that that's going to have this kind of the 235 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: cloud of uncertainty. He also felt like it the a 236 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: lot of the labor protections in Mexico. He thinks we'll 237 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: make cars cost more for for people two words, Jack Kemp. 238 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: He's trying to inherit. Arguably the Jack kempion economic wing 239 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: of the Republican Party in the long term, he's got 240 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: a tough reelection fight. No, he doesn't, he's Casey has 241 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: a tough re election fight. Uh. That'll be interesting to 242 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: see how that dynamic plays out and Edgerton as you 243 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: look to the policy stories of where the trade story 244 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: goes next. Annie Quinn on Bloomberg Television had a great 245 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: interview earlier this week with the European Trade Commissioner Phil 246 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: Hogan and Europe. From my the sources that I talked to, 247 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: Europe is really in the hot seat, even more likely 248 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: arguably than a US China Phase two. Yeah, especially when 249 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: it gets to the tariffs that the Trump administration has 250 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: threatened to put on some European goods. You know, we 251 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: could have more expensive wine here, which is never a 252 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: good thing. Um. So, you know, we've seen how the 253 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: President has really likes to use trade as kind of 254 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: a blunt policy tool. He used tariffs to accomplish other 255 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: other objectives to you know, use as a threat against 256 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,599 Speaker 1: allies and adversaries alike. So it's you know, it's a 257 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: tool that the President likes to use, and it's also 258 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: one that makes traditional Republicans very uncomfortable, like pat to me, 259 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: you know, they're nervous about the market intervention, about kind 260 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: of the government run direction of U. S. Trade policy, 261 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: and would much rather prefer, you know, free markets, free trade. 262 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: And there's just not much space for those people in 263 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: the Republican Party anymore. Right, Pad to Senator to me 264 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania is kind of coming at this issue from 265 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: the right. He is a doctrinaire free trader for for 266 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: a couple of carve outs in the state of Pennsylvania, 267 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: but most importantly for the Trump administration and specifically the 268 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: Trump reelection campaign. This is a promise, has made, promises 269 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: kept type of moment. They're not going to get into 270 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: the intricacies of foreign trade policy. They're just gonna say 271 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: Trump said he would do it, and he followed through. 272 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: And for his supporters, that's what they need to hear. 273 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: And the key is the farm belt, you know, one 274 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: of them. I actually thought the most interesting exchange during 275 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: the Democratic debate, which we haven't even mentioned. There was 276 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: a Democratic debate. The craziest part of that debate was 277 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: Bernie that and that's what everyone will remember. And that's 278 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: but there was actually and this is a there was 279 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: a substantific change on trade, and Bernie Sanders said he 280 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: was against the deal. Every other Democrat on stage supported it. 281 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: And the reason they supported it, even as liberal Democrats, 282 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: even despite the Democratic Party's history of protectionism, is because 283 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: farmers in Iowa are getting squeezed, they're getting hurt, They've 284 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: been hit hard by these tariffs, and so any kind 285 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: of the anything that can lessen the pressure on these 286 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: voters who frankly, you know, voted in many cases for 287 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: Barack Obama and then voted for Donald Trump. These are 288 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: the kinds of voters that will decide a bunch of 289 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: these Midwestern states. And so that's why you have Pennsylvania, 290 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: That's why you have in Pennsylvania and come from that 291 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: part of the where exactly where those swing voters who 292 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: voted for Obama and then Trump. So yeah, you're right. Yeah. 293 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: One of one of vote that really surprised me on 294 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: the U. S. M c A, you know, the New 295 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: NAPTA deal was Chuck Schumer voting against it. And the 296 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: reason it right exactly and close not only voting for it, 297 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: but holding it up as a kind of the future 298 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: of you know, how to negotiate trade deals from here 299 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: on out. They had managed to get some major concessions 300 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: from the Trump white House, especially on labor. But the 301 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: reason that Chuck Schumer gave for voting against it was 302 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: client met which was also the reason that Bernie Sanders 303 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: voted against it. So having the kind of Sanders Schumer 304 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: team up against the Pelosi deal, it's so interesting because 305 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: quickly Schumer is concerned about a primary challenge from his 306 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: left in two Alexandrio Casio Cortez, someone that keeps Chuck 307 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: Schumer up at night. And and so it was one 308 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: of the other nine Democrats who voted no was Ed Markey, 309 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: who's facing a primary challenge from Joe Kennedy the third 310 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. And that's a reflection of that tension. So 311 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: this is why everyone needs to read the Daily two 312 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: or two because James Holman is like the Washington Post 313 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: and Edgerton that's what that's coming up. David Mark is here, 314 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: James Holman is here, and Edgerton is here. I'll stick 315 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: around as well. Uh, you're gonna hear from Senator Mark Warner, 316 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: Democrat from Virginia. And what he had to tell me 317 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: earlier today on Bloomberg TV was really he was speaking 318 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: more out of Pelosi's playbook than Schumers on the issue 319 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: of trade, and he was hopeful that a lot of 320 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: these trade deals UH from this week will be the 321 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: foundation of the future and maybe rebuilding. This is Bloomberg 322 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: Sound On with Kevin curl on Bloomberg and one oh 323 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: five point seven MHD two. I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington 324 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: correspondent from Bloomberg TV and Radio. Earlier today on Bloomberg Television, 325 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: I spoke with Senator Mark Warner, He's a Democrat from Virginia, 326 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: and we talked about a new piece of legislation that 327 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: he has with Chairman of the Intelligence Committee, Richard Burr, 328 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: who UH and he's the top Democrat on the Intelligence Committee. 329 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: They have a new bipartisan bill out on Llaway and 330 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: asked him what it would do take a listen five 331 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: G and the issue of Walway has been over the 332 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: last year plus a bipartisan issue. This is one area 333 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: where there's a lot of us that are in agreement 334 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: with the administration. We have to prevent Walway from dominating 335 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: the five gen marketplace, and if we simply allow the 336 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: market to play out, they'll end up with sixt What 337 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: we not been able to offer our allies and even 338 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 1: small telcos in America that purchased Wallway. Is even if 339 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: you're convinced Walways a national security issue, what is the alternative? 340 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: China has put up close to a hundred billion dollars 341 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: to back Wallway, which allowed which has got pretty good equipment. 342 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: It also allows them to then price that equipment not 343 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: on a market basis, and offer enormously attractive financing plans. 344 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: What we have to somehow get is a over the 345 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: next five years to the next generation of telephony and 346 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: what's called Open Radio Access Network and o RAN network. 347 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: We in our legislation would put up over a billion 348 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: dollars to support that kind of development and that kind 349 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: of international effort to finance the ability to go head 350 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 1: to head with w Where does the money come from? Where? Where? 351 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: Because tax this money would come from an auction of 352 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: certain spectrum that should be again allocated to five G. 353 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: Currently there are a series of satellite carriers that have 354 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: this spectrum. We have to get them to give up 355 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: that spectrum, and that legislation is also moving forward. And 356 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: then the proceeds, some of the proceeds would go to 357 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: build out broadband. Some of this would just say, how 358 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: do we develop a Western, not just American, but Western 359 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: alternative to Walway Over the next five years, we believe 360 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: that will be an O N network. In the meantime, 361 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: we've got to do more to shore up those competitors 362 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: to Walway, the Swedish company Eric's In, the Finnish company Nokia, 363 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: and the Korean company Samsung. I'm struck by this because 364 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: right now Germany has a tough decision to make. China's 365 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: trying to make inroads in German markets. They're pushing whale 366 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: hard and the Germans haven't decided. So what's what's what's 367 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: the US message to European knowledge. Well, not only Germany, 368 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: but our closest allies, the Brits are making this decision 369 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: as well. They have Walway equipment. I think most of 370 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: their security apparatus realize it's not a good long term 371 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: solution to have your whole network dependent on a on 372 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: a pure Chinese supplier, in particularly supplier like Wallway that 373 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: has such close ties to the Communist Party. But what 374 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: you have to say to the Germans or the Brits 375 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: or others is, all right, what's the alternative? Will that 376 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: alternative be able to compete in terms of not just 377 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: five G, but six G and next generation technology, and 378 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: can we move this away from kind of a single stack, 379 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: single provider to a more open based software driven systems. 380 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: That's where the West can compete. That's what Iran will 381 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: build us as a bridge to and the fact that 382 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: our government with this legislation would make that kind of 383 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: down payment that I hope would also spur other development 384 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: from other Western nations who don't want to rely on 385 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: China timetable and of the year. My sense is this 386 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: is the kind of legislation that needs to pass sooner 387 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: than later because until we have a plan not just 388 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: coming out of America but for the West rit large, 389 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: always going to continue to win. For the election I 390 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: absolutely has to be before the election of McConnell's every 391 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: month that goes on another country because they don't feel 392 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: that if there's a viable Western alternative. There's no American 393 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: provider already, but there's not even a viable Western alternative, 394 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: it's going to turn to Walwley. If we can put 395 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: together the kind of organized plan, I think the West 396 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: would sign up and I think we could actually stop 397 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: what would be a major national security issue just greatly 398 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: on impeachment. What's the next in this step in this process? 399 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: Trial is gonna begin early next week. The issue of witnesses. 400 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: When do we find out that, once and for all 401 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: they're gonna be witnesses. Well, I think there'll be a 402 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: series of votes early next week around witnesses. I think 403 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: it's important that we hear from these individuals, particularly that 404 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: have firsthand knowledge. They can clear the president or provide 405 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: information otherwise I would think the president would actually want 406 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 1: them to speak. Chances are my Republican colleagues will not 407 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: vote for witnesses early on, But once both sides have 408 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: had a chance to make the presentation and we get 409 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: a chance to ask some questions, I think we will 410 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: revisit that issue. But York is as good as your 411 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: guess is as good as mine. Whether that's two weeks away, 412 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: three weeks away. Before we had that second vote, that 413 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: was Senator Mark Warner, a Democrat from Virginia, talking about 414 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: paway and of course talking about the impeachment. I'm Kevin Cirelli, 415 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: chief Washington correspondent from Bloomber TV and Radio. David Mark 416 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: is here, Deputy news editor at the Washington Examiner, James Holman, 417 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: national political correspondent for The Washington Post and author of 418 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: the Daily to Otoo and Anna Edgerton, Bloomberg Politics editor 419 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: who filed that interview was playing, told me a fun 420 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: fact about the Senate Intelligence Committee chairman Richard Burr. Yeah. 421 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: His his father was the one who baptized me at 422 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: First Presbyterian Church and was in Salem, North Carolina. Wait, 423 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: so Richard Burr's dad baptized you? Yeah, he was a 424 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: pastor at First Risbyterian. Do you ever run a name? How? How? 425 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: I don't really remember? It was by chance? But was 426 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: it by chance? Um? And he was just he was 427 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: the pastor at the church that we went to. And 428 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: I so things I also learned. Richard Burrow is the 429 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: son of a pastor. Yeah, you know who else is 430 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: the is the child of a pastor. My good friend 431 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: Nancy Lyons, who does our news breaks here, did not 432 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: know that for this program. Yeah. So you know things 433 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: you learn turning into uh radio sout on All right, 434 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the I want to pivot 435 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: here and talk about the state of play. James, your 436 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: head to Iowa tomorrow and you're gonna be what are 437 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: you gonna be looking for. This is the last weekend 438 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: that the senators get to campaign, and so it's it's 439 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: there's kind of a sprint. They're trying to get in 440 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: as many events as they can. So I'm gonna front 441 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: load on the Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and Amy 442 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: Klobuchar and then backload next week. Pete Boodhy Judge and 443 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: Joe Biden are both trying to capitalize on the fact 444 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: that their rivals are going to be stuck here, and 445 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: I want to get a sense kind of on the ground. 446 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: These issues have become so nationalized. This is my four 447 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: presidential campaign, covering it full time, and what is fourth fourth? 448 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: We've been doing this for sixteen years. Oh wait, yeah, wow, 449 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. See I came in when you were 450 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: at Politico right at the end of it. I had 451 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: just when I moved to d C. It was right 452 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: before elections, so I don't even I don't really consider 453 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: myself that I covered that. So I did. To me, 454 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: this is my second. It was comparatively really, but compared 455 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: to oh eight and twelve and even sixteen. What you're 456 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: seeing is these elections have become so nationalized. So it 457 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 1: used to be When you were in Iowa, people watched 458 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: local news, you know, and they got there, they kind 459 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: of they read the local paper. And now everyone is 460 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: kind of people pay a lot more attention to these 461 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: national stories. And so it'll be interesting to see how 462 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: people are watching impeachment next week in Iowa and whether 463 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: it really matters that the people aren't around and what 464 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: those events, uh make a difference. One of the reason 465 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: I have is that Amy Clobachar is the senator who's 466 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: going to get hurt most by impeachment because uh, Warren 467 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: and Sanders both have very strong on the ground organizations. 468 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: They also have a lot more money, so they've been 469 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: able to invest in those Amy Clobachar isn't hitting fifteen 470 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: percent in the polls the Minnesota Center, it's right next door. 471 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: If she can't do well in Iowa, her campaign is over. 472 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: And if you don't get fifteen percent in these precincts 473 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: at the caucus is you're considered not quote viable, and 474 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: so you don't get any delegates. So that's why I 475 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: think she's potentially really hurt by not being able to 476 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: be there during this home stress. And just we were 477 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: talking about this earlier in the week and and the 478 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: fifteen percent viability is so important. Iowans go into a caucus, 479 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: let's say a high school gym on the first ballot. 480 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 1: If you don't hit the fifteen percent threshold on the 481 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: first ballot, you're off for the second ballot. And how 482 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: many ballots are there as many as many as it 483 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: takes to get a majority. And so if you're Amy 484 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: club charing, you have fourteen percent? Where do Amy Cloba 485 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: charge supporters go on the second ballot? And that's what 486 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: to when people talk about viability. That's why it matters 487 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: so much. What are you watching for, David, I'm watching 488 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: for actually. Also in Iowa, the Democratic Party there is 489 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: has added a new counting procedure which sounds really in 490 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: the weeds and a little boring, but it could be 491 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: nocial on election night there. In addition to looking at 492 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: the totals you were just describing the net delegates, etcetera, 493 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: they're also counting raw vote totals, which could give candidates 494 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: who don't finish on top a chance to say, you 495 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: know what we really want and to clear multiple candidates 496 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: the winner. I'm not sure the Iowa Democratic Party quite 497 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: knows what it's getting itself into. In this case, I'm 498 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: not sure Americans are known what they're getting themselves into. 499 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: You know why, because I think that we we for 500 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: all these rules and diving in the weeds or the 501 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 1: Iowa cornfields and the Sydeans. It really comes down there 502 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: who won, who got the most votes. That's of people 503 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: tuning in that night. They want to know, and that's 504 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: the moment of the big mojo coming up. What's on 505 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: the panel's radar plus L s U and Donald Trump 506 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: at the White House. What happens find out next? I'm 507 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: Kevin SERELLI. You're listening to Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg's sound 508 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: on with Kevin Surreley on Bloomberg one and one oh 509 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: five point seven f M h D two. Nickoll called 510 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: me a liar on National's movie. I think he called 511 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: me a liar on National movie. Let's not do it 512 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: right now. You want to have that discussion, We'll have 513 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: that discussion. You called Meland, you told Lee all right, 514 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: let's not the work. I still can't stop listening to 515 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: this and watching this. That of course was from the 516 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: debate earlier this week in De Moine, which feels like 517 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: a year ago, but after the debate when when Bernie 518 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: went in for the handshake and Senator Warren said no, 519 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: and then the whole thing happened. We know what happened next. 520 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Sereli, Chief Washington correspondent with Bloomberg TV and Radio. 521 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: David Mark is here, he's the deputy news editor for 522 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: the Washington Examiner. And Edgerton is also here, Bloomberg Politics editor. 523 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: James Holman, national political correspondent for Washington Post, author of 524 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: the Daily two oh two. All right, it's been a 525 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: couple of days since that exchange. James, who who one 526 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: who lost? Didn't have any effects or not? It's I 527 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: think it is too soon to say. I hate to 528 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: say that. I think I was very fluid, but I 529 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: I don't think it helped either of them. I don't think, 530 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,479 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think Bernie has been hurt as 531 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: much as some people thought earlier in the week. I 532 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: don't think this is going to help Warren peel off 533 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: uh kind of liberal women who supported Sanders, which I 534 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: think was part of the theory of the case behind 535 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: doing all of this, and and I think Warren was 536 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: kind of trying to get it. It kind of raises 537 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: more questions about her credibility in some ways, especially after 538 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: the Native American fiasco. What you know is is she 539 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: telling the truth? Sanders says she's not. And it's one 540 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: of those that would be the Republican narrative attacking her. Uh. 541 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: And it sort of did open up a Pandora's box 542 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: where you have a lot of Sanders supporters now kind 543 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: of vociferously criticizing her. Uh and and so's I think 544 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 1: it actually has made it harder for Warden to present 545 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: herself as the unity candidate. Alright, So now we're gonna 546 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: do what's on the panel's radar, where the panel tells 547 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: us one thing that they're that they're looking at. What 548 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: are you looking at? James? And you're going to Iowa tomorrow. 549 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to if for the next several days. South 550 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: Carolina is is, you know, not the first early state. 551 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: And one of the things that's interesting is speaking of 552 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders, he got blown out there by Hillary Clinton 553 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: the beginning of the end of his campaign in was 554 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: I think he lost by like forty points in the 555 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: South Carolina primary after winning in New Hampshire by like 556 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: twenty points. So Sanders has invested a lot of time 557 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: and money and resources and trying to make inroads among 558 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: African Americans in South Carolina. There are signs that it's working. 559 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: Biden Joe Biden has an overwhelming advantage among African Americans, 560 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: would certainly win the South Carolina primary if it was today. 561 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: But Sanders is using the kind of last weekend to 562 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: go to South Carolina. He's having a bunch of events 563 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: in the black community on Monday. And what I'm struck 564 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: by his Amy Clobachar and Pete Buddha Judge all in 565 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: on Iowa. They're not sort of making that diversion to 566 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: South Carolina right now because to skip an African American 567 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: event on Martin Luther King Day in South Carolina. Absolutely wow. 568 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: But if if if Boodhy Judge loses in Iowa, if 569 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: he finishes fourth in Iowa, it almost doesn't matter. It's 570 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: so it is. It just reflects that he's really you know, Clobachar, 571 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: Buddha Judge are going all in on Iowa. And what's 572 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: interesting about New Hampshire. You know, you have Bernie Sanders 573 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: and Elizabeth Warren both represents states that border New Hampshire. 574 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: It's a liberal electorate. And so if if whoever, whichever 575 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: of those two loses in New Hampshire, their campaign is 576 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: essentially going to be done. James Holman is who you 577 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: want to have lunch with, coffee with a beer with, 578 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: if you drink about politics, because you I mean, he 579 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: knows everything about out every single Solidary. He's like the 580 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: next Mike Allan. Every time I'm in his president I 581 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: just I'm like, James Holmon's gonna run Washington And well, 582 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: are you know anyway? All right, David Mark, what's on 583 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: your radar? Thank you, James. That was a nice way 584 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: of complimenting you with without finishing the I'm really going 585 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: to compliment it. Go ahead looking at something that's a 586 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: little bit below the radar screens. But the many of 587 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: the campaigns are still focusing on. This is actually going 588 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: all the way out to March third, Super Tuesday, and 589 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: how to actually win delegates in the super states of 590 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: California and Texas. It's not just majority wins. It's going 591 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: in California, Casa California by congressional district. In Texas it's 592 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: by state senate district. It's a very convoluted process in 593 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: which you can get the most votes statewide still come 594 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: up well short in delegates. That happened with Hillary Clinton 595 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and eight in several of these states. 596 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: So I think they really smart campaigns to the degree 597 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: they have the resources they're trying to plan ahead for this. 598 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: That's one. That's a great one. And in terms of 599 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: how how long things are gonna last, all right, and 600 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: a time, what's on your radar if I could have 601 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of a more near term radar, I'm 602 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: looking tomorrow for these deadlines for impeachment documents. Um, you know, 603 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: I cover Congress, so it's kind of all impeachment next 604 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: week for me. And the way that the Senate trial 605 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: shapes up is probably not going to affect the ultimate outcome. 606 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: You know, we do expect Trump to be acquitted by 607 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: the majority Republican Senate, but you know, it is important 608 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: for the president's reelection campaign how he comes across. You know, 609 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: also for senators running for re election. It's also important 610 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: for how the House is cases prosecuted because you have 611 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: a lot of House Democrats who are going to be 612 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: vulnerable on impeachment when they get back to their swing 613 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: districts to run for re election. So there's a lot 614 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: at stake politically for this, even if not kind of judicially. 615 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: So um, you know, these documents will be the kind 616 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: of opening salvo for that and we'll see how it 617 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: plays out. All right, what's all my radar? And then 618 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna have some fun. By the way, Breaking had 619 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: breaking new headline over the Bloomberg terminal ex Congressman Collins. 620 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: Chris Collins just got twenty six months of prison time 621 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: for insider trading Republican from from New York. So he's 622 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: gotten twenty six months in jail. That's not what's all 623 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: my radar? Uh? Sorry Collins. Um, it's Davos and you 624 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: gotta tune into Bloomer. No one does Davos coverage better 625 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: than Bloomberg TV and radio, down to the cocktails that 626 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: are down to the jackets that fancy s fancy colleagues 627 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: get for covering Doavars where never mind u um Friday 628 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: Friday fund But anyway, headlines President Trump is still likely 629 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: going to attend Davos. He has skipped it in the past, 630 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: and the CBS News headline says President Trump expected to 631 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: attend the summit in Davos and likely to meet with 632 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: the Iraqi president. So that meaning happens. I mean, you know, 633 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: given the dynamics of foreign policy, it could be interesting. 634 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: And then the headline in the Bloomberg Terminal by my 635 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: colleague Michael Winfrey Davos Elite take on climate with Greta's help. 636 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: Not gretivn Sustern, who you know we love on this show, 637 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: but with Gretta Thornberg, who of course is the young 638 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: person who has you know, Time Person of the Year, 639 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: has a better resume than anyone of us at the 640 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: age of not even eight anyway, but Davos and how 641 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: the president's reception is on that seriously, all kidding aside 642 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: that meeting with the Iraqi president could prove to be 643 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: incredibly influential as the situation with the Ron continues to 644 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: to intensify. All right, did the Radar L s U 645 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: at the White House today? Wow? So President Trump with 646 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: the L s U. You know, they won the national championship. 647 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: Take a listen to what the President had to say 648 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 1: with L s U right there in the background. We'll 649 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: take pictures behind the Resolute Desk. It's been there a 650 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: long time, a lot of presidents, some good, some not 651 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: so good. But you got a good one now, even 652 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: though they're trying to impeach the son of him. Can 653 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: you believe you know? I ever heard a conversation in 654 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: the news room earlier about whether or not we can 655 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: use words like that in our copy, and I didn't 656 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: realize it was a quote from the president about himself. 657 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: Play it one more time, Play it one more time. 658 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: Go ahead, we'll take pictures behind the resolute desk. It's 659 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 1: been there a long time, a lot of presidents, some good, 660 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: some not so good. But you got a good one now, 661 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: even though they're trying to impeach the son of a 662 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: Can you believe you know? All right, very quickly, we 663 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: literally have a minute, and I can't mess up the 664 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: hard break? What was what was more impactful? That quote 665 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: or the Bernie hot my quote? I gotta go with 666 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: L s U P. I just hear like SNL skits 667 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: whenever anyone. I can't wait five nudes tomorrow. I don't 668 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: know Needle, but I can't wait to see the Bernie 669 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren SNL spat on SN So it's gonna be amazing. 670 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: James home and thank you so much. Safe travels my 671 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,919 Speaker 1: friend to Iowa. And Edgerton, thank you as well. David Mark, 672 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: thank you, and of course thank you to Senator Mark Warner, 673 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: Democrat from Virginia. Next week, Davos. Folks, make sure you're 674 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: listening tune into Bloomberg. Download the Bloomberg Sound on podcast 675 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: on Apple iTunes and Bloomberg dot com, or by downloading 676 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business app. You can also find us on 677 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: Radio dot com, I Heart Radio, and Spotify. My name 678 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: is Kevin Crelli. I'm the chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg 679 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: Television and Bloomberg Radio. And you're listening to Bloomberg