1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast joined Pinchest because of j 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Cutler's wine. Welcome back to another edition of the Around 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and I 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: am joined by a room filled with some heroes. Christopher 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: Westling to my left, Greg Rose with Alt to my right. 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: What's up, boys? Hey, Dan, it's happening. What is happening? 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: A lot of cavalry heat on the podcast. Damage still 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: sour about you know? He had a one for six 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: showing and uh Thursday Friday's edition of win West's Toaster. 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: You can check it out on the podcast or on 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: NFL Now, where we have video of the entire episode up. Uh. 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: He was particularly upset with the question in which I asked, 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: which product does Dick, Budgus and kristin cavalary? Uh? Do 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: they are they? You know, selling in the NFL network 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: commercial that just runs constantly, which is pinterest? Uh? Dave said, 16 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: that's not football. I don't I don't have to know that. 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: That was one of several things complained about, the other 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: being that you would dare to ask a question about 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: a stadium name. It's one of several things he didn't 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: know as well. He didn't know five things I and 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: I was I was thinking about this, and because Dave 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: said he caught a ton of heat on Twitter over 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: the weekend from people going after him, I would like 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: to make a kind of like a recurring, uh situation 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: where Dave just drops by every you know, year or so. 26 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: But I don't know how much more. It's like every 27 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: couple of years. I mean, I've worried about his confidence 28 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 1: too many of these she lackings of the hands of West. Well, 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: it's not it's not really in his wheelhouse. He's like 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: a good box office draw that's not really competitive somehow 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: and also doesn't draw a boxe um. Alright, so Mark 32 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: is out of the office, out of the office for 33 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: a week. He is some type of East Coast sojourn. Uh. 34 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: It's really unclear exactly like bos and bus stops involved 35 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,279 Speaker 1: in this thing, aren't there? Yeah, they were like early 36 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: morning shots of the Port Authority in New York there handing, 37 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: hanging out with men in fields. So you know, I 38 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: would say, keep an eye on Mark's Instagram account because 39 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: I'm sure some stuff could pop up there. So we'll 40 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: go on without Mark for two shows this week. Uh, 41 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: Today's show with the boys, Chris and Greg. We're going 42 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: to uh, you know, we're gonna talk about the Superstar Club. 43 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: What club is this something that I invented while eating 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: breakfast this morning. But we're gonna talk about like players 45 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: that we see kind of making Now. I don't want 46 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: to use the word making the leap because that's copyrighted. 47 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: By the way, Greg, do you want to say something 48 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: about the Making the Leap series? We kicked it off 49 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: this week? Sessler wrote one ahead of time, Charles Johnson 50 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: is number twenty on the list. This is our yearly. 51 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: It's the third time we've done this list of players 52 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: we believe are gonna improve greatly. And yeah, and we 53 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: got a big one on Tuesday. Your boy Geno Smith 54 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: thought he'd be higher. Considering you, well, we don't want 55 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: to go to he's making the leap, just the fact 56 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: that he's on the list. I will be reading. I 57 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: will read that. But so consider that's not making the leap. 58 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: That's a separate and that's more the player that is 59 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: promising and then becomes kind of a renowned player, pro 60 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: Bowl type player. This is more like the Platinum club, 61 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: where you go from being a great player to Superstar. 62 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: So who's gonna be those those guys this year? It's 63 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: not gonna be very many. And conversely, did I use 64 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: that word properly? Who will drop back? Who are the 65 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: superstars that we recognize today that by this time next 66 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: year will see them in a different light? Because in 67 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: in in my mind, in my mind, there's a balance, 68 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: a cosmic balance of this. There's only a set number 69 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: of guys could be in the Superstar Club. I like 70 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: this idea. There's a capacity, one man in, one man out. 71 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: You're the bouncer of the Superstar Club. We are the bouncer. 72 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: It's a zero game right here. Yeah. Uh, so we 73 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: will talk about that the Superstar Club. Uh and uh. 74 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: We will have President Obama on a little later, the 75 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: President of the United States. That that was actually that 76 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: was another podcast. Oh darn, the WTF podcast. But don't 77 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: check that out, maybe TD, what's going on? Can you 78 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: get the president? I'm working on him to move the 79 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: stakes beout the president? He he literally was in Los Angeles. 80 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna ignore that just to make sure no one 81 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: even hears of that part. You get us, like the 82 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: Prime Minister of Nigeria. Yeah, I work on that. Yeah, 83 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: k Ridge could do it. She's been hanging out with Obama. Wait, 84 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: let's let's test these roots. Who who holds the highest 85 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: office in Nigeria? This is this is bad. I shouldn't know. 86 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: I tell your mother and I thought, you know it's 87 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: I love you still President of the Offensive. Oh goodness, 88 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: Harvey is his last name? That much? I know? Just google? Yeah, 89 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: it's Hanley Selassie. That's dishonest. T d Uh. Alright, buddy, anyway, 90 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: good to see you. Help you out. A nice weekend. 91 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: It's a funny weekend. Me and West went back and 92 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: forth about talking about some old MJ back in the day, 93 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: which led to me watching games of Jordan playing plant 94 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,799 Speaker 1: guard in the eighties. Not only have you guys moved 95 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: past that awkward squabble you had, you're now indulging each 96 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: other in nineteen eighties and nineties. NBA basketball has that 97 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, that old Tom knowledge, and sometimes I need 98 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: to delve into that a little bit more. And you know, 99 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: T d I I understold him. He's one of the 100 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: more knowledgeable folks I've ever met about hoops. You had 101 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: some nice hot yeah, I like the better when you 102 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: were fighting. And by the way, which I need to. 103 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: I have it on my phone. A bit of the fighting, uh, 104 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: staying on my requarter on my phone I will use 105 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: at the right time. Dan, quick question? Does that anyone watch? 106 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: I know you're a big fan of Entourage, Dan, Their 107 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: news us the new show Fallers starring you know the 108 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: Wayne the Rock Johnson. Anyone give that a watch? Well, 109 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: I was the first time I'm a first time Father's 110 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: Day for myself yesterday, so I didn't get around to it, 111 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: but I will be checking it out. I wasn't. I 112 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: didn't watch Glad you brought it up in a tell 113 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: you know something that's been taped for other people to 114 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: listen to. I thought I was off today and behaved 115 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: accordingly yesterday. Alright, so yes, I'll get back to you 116 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: on that TV on Thursday. Let's do some news. I 117 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: did see that last night. You did? Well? That was 118 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: more for you old fossils in here, but um and 119 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: Newman has been assassinated by a diffeloce. Ours Dress World 120 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: is pretty good, I would get. It's a nice pop 121 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: grun pleaser. It's actually I find it to be a 122 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: stark contrast to some of those dark Nolan movies. I 123 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: feel like they're trying to make it more nineties fun 124 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: popcorn and is the biggest biggest box office hit of 125 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: all time. It depends how you measure anyway, And what 126 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: is it like four millions through two weeks or something? 127 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: Um over short domestically probably it's like nine eighty world wide. 128 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: They broke it that it actually made more in the 129 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: first seventeen minutes than Entourage has made them. It seems 130 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: about but the happiest lost bet in my life. It 131 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: wasn't a bet. We don't do that around here. Let's start, Uh, 132 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: let's start in Buffalo. Why not a lot of places 133 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: to start? We want to start in Buffalo. Yeah, alright, 134 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: So we came into this season um Greg's boy, uh 135 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: Matt Castle was acquired. He seemed to be a favorite 136 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: over EJ Manuel and Tyrod Taylor, but mac Maccastle has 137 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: not had a good offseason program. He struggled both in 138 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: O T O t A s uh and in minicamp. 139 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: Ej Manuel really looked best out of all three quarterbacks. 140 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: And you're hearing from multiple reporters covering the beat that 141 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: Castle uh did not play well, called the clear loser 142 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: by ESPN dot coms Mike roadac uh, and now there 143 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: is some buzz Chris Westling, he wrote this piece for 144 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: us that Matt Castle could be on the on the 145 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: roster bubble. Now he's gonna go from the favorite to 146 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: start the potentially on the street. Yeah. I kind of hesitated. 147 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: I was a little reluctant to do this because it 148 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: was only one beat writer suggesting that Castle wouldn't make 149 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: the roster. It's pretty clear that he had a miserable offseason, 150 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: but none of the other Bill's quarterbacks particularly looked good either. 151 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: But then I thought that I might just be able 152 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: to tweak Greg Gross and told I knew that was 153 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: that I'm home on Saturday. On the weekend, it basically 154 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: was Chris Westley and headline, hey screw you Rose post 155 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: now really under the radar shots at his boss, which 156 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: feels like, uh, usually west usually west is all but 157 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: oh that's not news. You know who cares? Some writers 158 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: said something might happen, that's not news. Why do you 159 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: chist on turning into a Southern bumpkins on imitating damage 160 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: ax invitation at this month? But uh, yeah, it was 161 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: one writer suggesting something might happen. When are we When 162 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: did we start putting too much stock into these Oh 163 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen before training camp. I think I 164 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: wrote it that way, Okay. I was sure to point 165 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: out that he was just one writer and that nothing's 166 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: really gonna happen before preseason games anyway. This is again 167 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: why people need to pump the brakes a little bit 168 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: on the Bills as a team to be excited about 169 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: this year. This is how bad it got it during 170 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: the minicamp. All three quarterbacks struggled so badly in the 171 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: Wednesday UH practice session during Mini Caamp that on Thursday, 172 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan made the decision to pull his defensive line 173 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: first team off the field and put the second team 174 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: on there so the quarterbacks had a better chance of success. 175 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: Like what it First of all, kind of messages that 176 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: send and second of all, it tells you everything you 177 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: need to know about these guys just are not executing 178 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: even on this stage. How can you expect it come September? Well, 179 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: they're and against the defenses that have been together for 180 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: a while, and it is really talented. It's not an 181 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: easy offense to learn. Greg Roman and the quarterbacks aren't 182 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: very talented. So that's a that's a bad three things 183 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: the Molotov cocktail. But I wouldn't put too much in 184 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: the Castle's bad off season just because easily beat Manual 185 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: out right now it looks like manual. According to Joe Basuli, 186 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: how do you pronounce his last name? Basilia? One of 187 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: the one of the best local guys there. He he thinks, 188 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: man you had the best mini camp in the best 189 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: offseason and looks like the early leader for what it's worth. Alright, 190 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: moving on Tuesday is a big day for the throne 191 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: of ease. Tom Brady's appeal will be heard at the 192 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: New York uh NFL home office on Tuesday, this too, 193 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: in an attempt to reduce a four game suspension for 194 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: Brady allegedly having knowledge of illegally doctored football's at the 195 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: a f C Championship game. Uh head Wells NFL gumshoe 196 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: who um you know, was very confident that Brady at 197 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: least had some knowledge that something was cooking. Will will 198 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: be at the hearing from what we understand, and you know, 199 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: as far as a timetable, uh gregs, based on what's 200 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: happened in the past with these appeals could either come 201 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: you know, within a week, or you could be waiting 202 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: weeks or even like months before we know anything. Our 203 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: researcher Adam zern door for I mean, I keep getting 204 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: just his first names, Adams bounty Gate. The coaches had 205 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: to wait four days, the players had to wait eight days. 206 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: Ray Rice waited twenty two days after his appeal to 207 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: find out if if it helped Greg Hardy Uh is 208 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: now twenty five days in counting since his appeal was heard. 209 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: That's a long way of saying, everyone wants to know 210 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: what's the result of this Bradys you know appeal. It's 211 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: gonna be a big story on the NFL Network and 212 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com Tuesday, but we're not gonna know what 213 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: anything for a couple of weeks usually or at least 214 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: the rest of the week unless it breaks with past. 215 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: I wholeheartedly UH suggest everyone watches NFL Network live program 216 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: when we have talented people uh running these shows and 217 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: we're doing some live coverage of the appeal process tomorrow. 218 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: But I'm that was what it came to my mind 219 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: when we were preparing the podcast, like, what are they 220 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: gonna be talking about. We're not gonna have a camera 221 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: in the appealed room. There's not going to be an 222 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: immediate answer. There's a lot of shots outside three. Oh, 223 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: it could find out, you know, like Albert Brier you 224 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: mentioned reported today, Ted Wells will be involved. We'll find 225 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: out how long it goes. We'll find out, you know, 226 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: who's involved with, who's maybe some some testimony who that's 227 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: coming from. But you're right, we're not gonna know. What 228 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: about some of the jabrones from your fan base. Are 229 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: they gonna get arrested on purpose again? For there so 230 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: they have a great fantasy football story at their draft? 231 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: Are we still acting like one of the best players 232 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: in the league is gonna miss time for underinflated footballs? 233 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: So you so you do think it would. It's totally ridiculous, 234 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: wiped away. I don't know. It's just so laughable that 235 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: we get to watch inferiorr product because somebody underinflated a football. 236 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: It's just so laughable. There does seem to be a 237 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: general consensus and current among people who are paid to 238 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: have opinions on these things that it will be reduced. 239 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: With that said, every single step of this entire process, 240 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: conventional wisdom has been a dent wrong. Every prediction that 241 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: anyone's made about deflate Gate from day one has been wrong, 242 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: so maybe they'll double it. You You make a very 243 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: good point, exactly. No one's really ever been right with this. 244 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: If you listen to our podcast two weeks before the 245 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: suspension was handed down, Well, there's no way any of 246 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: us predicted that was gonna happen. But the two games, 247 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: that's gonna be the answer. Sounds I've looked into the 248 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: future and Rock this is his olive branch, opportunity is 249 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: gonna take it. Two games sounds about right, and you'll 250 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: you'll be okay, your team will be okay. Moving on West. 251 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: Your boy, he's not my boy anymore. Odell Beckham Jr. 252 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: Well a second, the Giants wide receiver who broke all 253 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: sorts of records as a rookie last year. UH as 254 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: a as a result, became one of the more high 255 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: profile players UH in the NFL. And of course, you know, 256 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: you know overnight icon in New York, he's the big 257 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: star there with Geter out of the picture. But now 258 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: he's got a bum hamstring, and he's got some teammates 259 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, kept him out of most of ot as 260 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: in the mini camp, and it's led to some teammates 261 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: and making some jokes as an expense. Of course, he 262 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: missed games or and h priests the preseason last year 263 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: with a hamstring issue. Uh, and he doesn't like the 264 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: fact that teammates are teasing him. Here is his quote 265 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: per ESPN last week. For me, this is what I 266 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: love doing, and this is what I feel like my 267 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: purpose was to do. So it takes a lot of 268 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: strength for me to be able to come here every 269 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: day and not practice. Have to hear the little remarks, 270 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: the little jokes, this and that, and it's not just 271 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: about a hamstring. It's so many other things that people 272 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: talk about. So it's hard to come here and try 273 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: to focus on what play is up right now instead 274 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: of thinking about how bad you want to be out there. 275 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: It's really got you going west. Why don't you quiet 276 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: about it? O'Dell? Oh wow, that's terrible. That's what boys do. 277 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: They make fun of each other, that's what that's what 278 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: men do. Come on, because this is another because of 279 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: the hamstring last year and the fame, it's like, oh, 280 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: you're too big time now, So I mean, I just 281 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: hear it and you want to blow it off. But 282 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: after a while it gets old and it kind of 283 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: bothers you. But I didn't know he was so mentally weak. 284 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: Oh stop, this is interesting. I didn't know he was 285 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: Jay Cutler wows your boy? It was my boy. I 286 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: don't know. That's that's a very bad quality in a 287 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: person that you can't take a joke. My first instinct 288 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: was this guy went to a lot of premiers and 289 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: had a lot of glowing things that he read about 290 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: himself and so about himself and didn't like someone, you know, 291 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: taking some air out of his tire if you will, 292 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: which is exactly what you would expect NFL teammates to 293 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: do to a player in this situation. I mean, can't 294 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: you just kind of hear them saying that, well, you're 295 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: too big for you know, you're on all the magnic 296 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: cover is too big to practice today. It is surprising 297 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: to me, not that it annoyed him, because I think 298 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: he's probably so competitive and thinks he is the man 299 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: that that's going to annoy him. But it is a 300 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: little surprising he would go talk to the media about Yeah, 301 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: that was weird. It was weird that he decided not 302 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: only thought to let it get under but he's gotta 303 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: He's still young and that's you've got to know better, 304 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: especially where he plays. That's this is gonna be blown 305 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: up into something where now the reporters didn't have the 306 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: opportunity of because of the timing of it, But now 307 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: all the reporters are gonna go to his teammates and 308 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: ask about you know what you know? What are you 309 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: saying to He basically told him the man up over 310 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: the weekend, as the Tom Coughlin Coughlin uh said, worry 311 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: about things you can control and not about those that 312 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: you can't. This happens in every locker room, in every sport. 313 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: Teammates ras each other. You got you have to deal with. 314 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: Show us a little immaturity. But it might also just 315 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: show how highly he thinks of himself and his competiti 316 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: of ness. He basically thinks, what, Reuben Randall, you're gonna 317 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: talk to me? Shut the up, Rubin Randall? You know 318 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: what I mean? Maybe he's a bit of a prima 319 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: donna too. Mark Sessler, who's not hearing Hey, Larry Donnell 320 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: pipe down? Who's the meal ticket here? Mark missed an 321 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 1: opportunity to take some shots at the Beckham the way 322 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: West has, but he did end his post with this 323 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: our production prediction. The playful jabs from teammates will vanish 324 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: once this dynamic and pristine route running toward a force begins, 325 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: taking apart secondaries on a weekly base. Okay, well that's true. 326 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: There's Mark the show. Cessler almost is like creating a 327 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: template through all these articles in which eventually will just 328 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: be able to create uh that can write Sessler articles 329 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: for like that. Yeah, that's true. I think Cessler is 330 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: putting all his creative juices right now. It's his Instagram posts. Yeah, 331 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: you're saying he's mailing in his work and NFL dot com. 332 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: So at this point, well that's pretty much what I think. 333 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: Mark does great work. And when people come after you 334 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: on Twitter over this or let Mark know had nothing 335 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: to do with it, we were innocent. Moving on. Uh. 336 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:29,479 Speaker 1: Torrell Prior, Uh, still in my life. Trrell Prior, who 337 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: is a metrics gold mine according to Greg Rosenal generator 338 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: three point one. I don't even remember who released him 339 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: last the Bengals. The Bengals released him last week. He 340 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 1: went on waivers claimed on Monday by the Cleveland Browns 341 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: Marks Boys. Uh. And the interesting thing, the or the 342 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: what makes this a little more intriguing from my point 343 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: of view because I'm exhausted by Tarrell Prior the quarterback. 344 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: Is that now he's gonna try to make it as 345 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: a wide receiver and that's why the Browns picked him up. 346 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: And they have arguably the worst wide receiver group in 347 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: the NFL. So maybe Terrell Prior, with his size and speed, 348 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: makes a difference. West your thoughts. Another interesting thing about 349 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: this is that John Di Filippo, the new Browns coordinator, 350 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: was the quarterbacks coach in Oakland when Prior was there, 351 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: so obviously he saw something he liked. Maybe he's thought 352 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: for a while that Prior should be playing a different position. Well, 353 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: if there's a receiver group that you could possibly make 354 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: and make an impact quickly, you would think the Browns 355 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: would be it. Yeah, that's not a deep looking group. 356 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: The Rotor World post on this is funny. It says 357 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: with Vince Mail, Brian Hartline, Andrew Hawkins, and Taylor Gabriel 358 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: is his primary competition behind Dwayne Bow And I'm thinking, 359 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: I've never even heard of Vince Mail. He's the first 360 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: guy they listed. Vince Mail is the guy that looks 361 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: like Lebron. But that's that's what he looks around Cleveland 362 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: and he's just like, yeah, everyone thinks m Lebron and 363 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: this this should serve it should serve as the ultimate 364 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: test here because another team should be taking no. Because 365 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: if he can't stick with the Browns and the wide 366 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: receiver group, what other wide receiver group would you find 367 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: a role? Well, you would, you would think unless he's 368 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: just so talented that he's an other world the athlete 369 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: that the best case scenario is he's on a practice quad. 370 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: It's a it's a little hard to imagine a guy 371 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: just switching positions and immediately making an impact. People talk 372 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: about like when Tebow was talked about as a tight end. 373 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: They act like that you can at the highest level 374 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: of competition, you can just switch positions and not miss 375 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: a beat. These are the best cornerbacks in the world. 376 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: But you're not You're not gonna do They've been doing 377 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: it for fifteen or twenty years. And if you're the 378 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,479 Speaker 1: bottom of the depth chart type wide receiver, your best 379 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: chance to make the team is on special teams and 380 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: its trell prior flying down the field as a gunner, 381 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: Like I mean, this is this is a pretty big 382 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: shift he's making. I guess you know this is a 383 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: tough spot from a good point. By the way, you doubted, 384 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: or maybe you weren't doubting, but you pointed out throughout 385 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: prior metrics gold. I didn't doubt it, know that it exists, 386 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: but it pains I went to go look to see 387 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: how it was when he was switching to the wide 388 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: receiver that got the same amount of page views as 389 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: our thirty nine things to Know from NFC Mini Camps, 390 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: which was the highest story of the day, and it 391 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: took like five minutes to write. That was my point 392 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: was that took five minutes. The other one took five 393 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: people spending an hour each. Yeah, we should just do 394 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: Terrell Prior do. Don't let everyone know the secrets, greg Um, 395 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: anything else? Anybody else have anything else to say about 396 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: Terrell Prior? I think we're exhausted. Here's the good news. 397 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: Next week, when he gets cut by the Browns, we 398 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: get to talk about him again. All right, that's what's 399 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: happening in the news, And now we move on. We 400 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: turn our attention to the off forementioned Superstar Club, which 401 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: is was established earlier this morning while I was ordering 402 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: breakfast at the UH Commissary at the NFL media. But ahead, well, 403 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, this is an appropriate kickoff 404 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: to what is really the NFL offseason the next five 405 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: or six weeks. There's nothing, no practices, nothing that's it 406 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: can read an article six things to watch before training 407 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: Camp by Connor or when it probably the only previews 408 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: of the on the internet of nothing. Nothing is happening. 409 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: Here's what to look forward to. And you should know 410 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: TD that amongst that list of six is the new 411 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: rock program Ballers. It's true Connor was into it. He 412 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: watched it. Nuts coming up, that's looking forward to this. 413 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: We got some stuff cooking anyway, So yes, but so yeah, 414 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: the this is this is what we need to discuss. Now. 415 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: It's a it's a touchy topic because you know, a 416 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: superstar that's a prideful man, and for us to be 417 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: suggesting who's gonna fall out of that group, it's a 418 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: little tough. But we're gonna do it because we're fearless 419 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: around these parts. And keep in mind, in this theory, 420 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: there's an order, you know, cosmic order. It can only 421 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: be a set number of superstars. So if we're gonna 422 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: throw somebody onto the list and say a player X 423 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: as a superstar player. Wise, there's gotta be one on 424 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 1: the other end that's gotta go. So let's get it started. 425 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: Chris Westling, would you like to get us going right now? 426 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: And maybe we'll start by you naming first the player 427 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: that you believe will make the Leap Platinum Edition and 428 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: then the guy that is on the losing end of that. Okay, 429 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: c J. Spiller superstar? MM yeah, I think you have 430 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: to trust what you've seen on tape, and in two 431 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: thousand and twelve, I believe he was arguably the most 432 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: dynamic running back in the NFL. Had short area quickness 433 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: and long speed that looked like Chris Johnson in his prime. 434 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: And I think he's going to a place where he 435 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: needs to be in space. And you've got one of 436 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: the best play callers for getting guys into space. We've 437 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: seen Sean Paynton do it with Reggie Bush and Darren 438 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: Sprawls and c J. Spiller's way better than both of 439 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: those guys. So to me, he's a superstar. He is 440 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: way better than Darren Sprawls And who is the first name, 441 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: Reggie Bush. I don't know if that's true. I don't 442 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: know if he's better than Reggie Bush Reggie Bush's prime. 443 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it way better than Reggie BUSHY had 444 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: that one year, you know what I really but it happened. Yeah, 445 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: I mean it's on tape. You know what he can 446 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: do if if he's healthy and he's in a good 447 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: offense with a good play color. I'm realizing what you know. 448 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: Everyone has a type, Dan, You definitely have a type. 449 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: Everyone knows about it. Okay, you know what I'm saying. Oh, 450 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: I know I'm talking about in uh, footballers, not well 451 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: football players with Dan, I was talking about women. You know, 452 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: smart ones West has a type. It is former top 453 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: ten picks that had one great season out of six. 454 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: But you got Darren McFadden that showed I don't know, 455 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: like one burst of flames. I don't even like Darren 456 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: McFadden RG three last year. You love him r G three. 457 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: That was really just making a McFadden joke. Harvn is 458 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: more similar to Spiller. I think, I like, I like 459 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: guys with game breaking ability. I would love to see 460 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: it and and I agree with you. Spiller did put 461 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: it on to you. I mean, I'm being stupid about it, 462 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: but for that season, you're right, he's showing it. He's 463 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: shown it in flashes. He makes people miss he kind 464 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: of he shows all those traits that you would want 465 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: in a superstar, but he doesn't stay on the field 466 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: and he doesn't run through people that well. That's why 467 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: if he was if he signed with the Browns, I 468 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: wouldn't be making this. But he signed with the s 469 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: To that point, superstar, it's a select club. So I'm 470 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: gonna throw out some numbers that I think if he's 471 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: not in this neighborhood, it's you can't really say he's 472 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: a superstar. And I'm basing a lot of this off 473 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 1: his two thousand twelve season, so he's got a kind 474 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: of approach to those that type of production. Again, total yards, 475 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: around ten touchdowns, around forty catches. Can he do something 476 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: like that? Uh? Is he capable? Those are superstar numbers. 477 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: Those are not star numbers. I think you can be 478 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: a superstar and not have superstar numbers because he's gonna 479 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: be splitting time with mark Ingram if he gets twelve 480 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: yards and it's just dynamite all year and the Saints 481 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: do great. To me, he's a sweep all right, who 482 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: falls from the ranks of the superstars. Brandon Marshall. Oh, 483 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: I can't disagree, but go ahead. Why the Jets aren't 484 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: allowed to have wide receivers? First of all, yeah, I'm 485 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: telling even in the heyday of Saint Henio Holmes in 486 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: New York, he was never a statistical monster. You really 487 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: have to go all the way back to Keishan Johnson. 488 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: I was gonna say Dom Maynard Keyshon had I think 489 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: like a hundred catchy. It's been a long time rise 490 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 1: out of town though, which could help. The other thing 491 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: is I don't believe that Gino Smith is making the 492 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: leap that I just he doesn't instill any sort of 493 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: confidence in me whatsoever. So so it's less about Marshall, 494 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: but you think he's gonna no longer be a superstite's 495 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: also on the wrong side of thirty now, and he's 496 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: not Calvin Johnson. He's Brandon Marshall, and he's had more 497 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: surgeries and has played well through them than just about anyone. 498 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: But we were talking about hip surgeries today because you 499 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: mentioned Jordy Nelson as a possibility for this, and there 500 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: were like two or three years in a row where 501 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall underwent hip surgery. So You're right, that can 502 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: catch up to him at some point, and he didn't 503 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: produce like a superstar last year in Chicago. The one 504 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: thing he has going for him in terms of maintaining 505 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: his facing the public eye, He'll be a weekly guest 506 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: on just about every show in New York inside the NFL. 507 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: He'll be on that hell on radio. No matter what, 508 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: whether it goes good or bad, it's going to be 509 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: about Brandon Marshall in New York there and this is 510 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: the Who's the giant who's famous for this role was 511 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: the guy if you if you find if a jet 512 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: or Giant has that type of connection with the media, 513 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: it could lead to bad things of a season goes wrong. 514 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: So Brandon Marshall either be their best move in several 515 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: years or it could turn into a nightmare. I didn't 516 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: even think about that that the Bears and the Giants essentially, 517 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: I mean the Bears Chicago and then New York. They 518 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: got rid of role going to the Bears, and now 519 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: Marshall's taking all those radio spots that's all used to here. 520 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: Here's an argument for Brandon Marshall, though, and I like 521 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: your pick. Jan Gailey has been able to create some 522 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: yardage out of a lot of funny places over the year. 523 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: Tyler Thigpen, Tyler Thigpen, I went back and looked for 524 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: my Gino Smith making the leap and saw what he did. 525 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: In Miami, Jay Fiedler led a top eight scoring offense 526 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: under Jan Gailey, So he's found a way to cook 527 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: up some yards. Ryan Fitzpatrick got Fitzpatrick sixty million dollars 528 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: and they Jets were third in the NFL and rushing 529 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: last year. Uh. And also Eric Decker is a nice 530 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: number two quarterbacks and their Cumbies involved. I mentioned j Cumberland. 531 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: Did he make making the leap? I'm not involved? Is 532 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: not He's not making the leaps. He's one of the 533 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: top five receiving options on the Jets, six maybe seven. 534 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: Devin Smith is a deep threat. To open things up 535 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: a little bit, I could score some points if Gino 536 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: Smith is okay, alright, moving on, I'll throw it out there. 537 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: Here we go, uh ready to ascend. I'll start with 538 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: any too decent for this one. Is that kind of 539 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: sets it up a little bit. Uh. Jimmy Graham, you 540 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: know he's uh gets traded to the Seahawks, and I 541 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: know when when sometimes like when a mega trade happens. 542 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: Doesn't happen a lot in the NFL, but you kind 543 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: of expect the guy to be exactly how he was 544 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: a season before. But he's in a new scheme with 545 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: a new team and a new quarterback, and I wouldn't 546 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: be surprised if it took some time for that chemistry 547 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: to develop. I know he'll be. I think I expect 548 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: him to be red zone threat immediately with them, because 549 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: he's just too big and too tall, and he knows 550 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: how to get open in the end zone. But ums 551 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: as far as being a big part of that offense, 552 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: remember this is a team that average the league best 553 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: a hundred and seventy two yards a game on the 554 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: ground last year. The next closest team was the Cowboys 555 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: at one. So this team loves to run the ball. 556 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: They have a quarterback that likes to run uh and 557 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham. Last year it was not Jimmy Graham's best 558 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: year either. He only average ten and a half yards 559 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,479 Speaker 1: to catch. That was a big drop for previous seasons, 560 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: didn't have a thousand yards. So I think that Jimmy 561 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: Graham will be continue to be a very good tight 562 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: end and maybe one of the best in a watered 563 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: down position right now in the NFL. I don't think 564 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: he'll quite be superstar two thousand thirteen Jimmy Graham in 565 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: Seattle at least in year one. M that would be uh, 566 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: a big surprise that we've It's been a running theme 567 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: on the podcast, and I talked about it on now 568 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: that some whispers coming out of New Orleans about I 569 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: don't know what. Maybe it was his approach to the 570 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: game or his ability to fight through injuries. You know 571 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: that there are some questions about Graham. It's interesting he 572 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: started out two thousand thirteen with four one hundred yard 573 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: games in his first five. Since then, he's had three 574 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,479 Speaker 1: one yard games in like thirty five games. Wow. I mean, 575 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: here are two guys numbers sixty three catches for eight 576 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: hundred ninety yards and four touchdowns. That's one guy, uh, 577 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: eighty five catches for eight hundred and eighty yards less 578 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 1: yardage and ten touchdowns. Those two players are Delaney Walker 579 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: and Jimmy Graham. Last, so, Jimmy Graham is already coming 580 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: off a season where he was not really the same 581 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: guy now going to a run first offense. I just 582 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: feel like They're gonna be very motivated to make that 583 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: signing look good and make him this the centerpiece of 584 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: the offense. So I feel like we know who Jimmy 585 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: Graham is. When he's completely healthy, he's unstoppable. When he 586 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: has a nagging injury, he's not He's not one tenth 587 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: of the player he is when he's healthy. Um, in 588 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: this exercise the Superstar Club, we're you gotta have someone 589 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: fill the void. It's little tough with tightenanks. There's not 590 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: a lot of guys that you can kind of go to. 591 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: I'll throw one out there just because I'm I'm starting 592 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: to get, um get a little excited about Cam Newton. Uh, 593 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: maybe I've read one too many offseason stories about his 594 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: improved footwork. How about Greg Olson? How about Greg Olson 595 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: who was was an thousand yard receiver last year, six 596 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: touch if Cam Newton, you know, took the next step 597 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: as a passer this season with a better cast around him, 598 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: the funches there with Benjamin and year two? Uh, could 599 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: Olson become a you know, ninety catch, twelve yard, ten 600 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: touchdown guy. I don't think that's crazy, So I'll throw 601 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: him out there. I almost went with Jordan Cameron because 602 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: of the god that hates Cleveland rule who I kind 603 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: of like that, and the assumption that he will automatically 604 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: become a pro bowler now that he's left Cleveland. But 605 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: I went with Olson a little safer, I guess. But 606 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: maybe Cameron's the guy with upside, But I'm not going 607 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: to put him in the Superstar confersation. I'm buying Cameron. 608 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a superstar club and it would 609 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: be overdue. Note I feel like Greg Olson, he's starting 610 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: to get more national love that Hey, this has been 611 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: an underrated, great, great career out of this guy. But 612 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: if he then took another step at age thirty, he's 613 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: getting up there and have have his best seasons right now. 614 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,959 Speaker 1: Last years eighty four for one thousand, eight yards six touchdowns. 615 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: That's really good production. The Cam Newton footwork thing cracks 616 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: me up a little bit, like, if if it was 617 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: that important, why did you wait till year five to 618 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: do it? Because now, if it was that easy to do, 619 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: why didn't he do it last year? Spike Sula hangs 620 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: over that whole situation, and it's it's never been fully 621 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: explained to me or solved or or I just wanted 622 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: to go away. Give Cam Newton someone other than Mike Scheua. 623 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: Maybe I think he's carrying Mike Shula, you know, not 624 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: the other way around. Give me a break. Also, Greg 625 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: Olsen doesn't get in the conversation enough. As one of 626 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: the more handsome men in the NFL, he kind of 627 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: looks like an eighties movie bully. Yeah. I was gonna 628 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: say he man, but yeah, I can see that too. Yeah, 629 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: he's got a little billy's obc action to him, like 630 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: he's the guy who was like on the ski team. Yeah, yeah, alright, Greg, 631 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: your turn? Who will an? Well, we've got a theme here, 632 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: We've got an ext Saint uh descending, We've got a 633 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: new Saint us nding, And I'm just gonna start with 634 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: the guy who's fallen off to start off, Drew Brees, 635 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: maybe C. J. Spiller comes in. And it helps to 636 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: represent a change in the way we see the Saints 637 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: passing game, that the passing game is no longer the 638 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: centerpiece of that offense, that the big yards aren't there 639 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: as much before. They play at a more controlled They 640 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: don't have big game breaking receivers at wide out or 641 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: at tight end right now. And I think if you 642 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: watched Drew Brees. He made more big mistakes last year 643 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 1: than before. Still was very good overall, but he's getting 644 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: up there, and I just kind of don't buy that 645 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: all these quarterbacks have to be so great forever. Brady 646 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: and Manning they broke those rules, but those are two 647 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: of the greatest to ever play. Adam put breeze at 648 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: that level. He's a guy who's kind of always done 649 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: a lot with less physical talents. It wouldn't surprise me 650 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: if he starts falling off. It's part of my ongoing 651 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: little beef with Pro Football Focus. They have him as 652 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: their second ranked quarterback last year, and to me, if 653 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: you watched the play all year, like you said, he 654 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: just made way too many big mistakes at crucial times. 655 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: He was not the same player last year as he 656 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: had been. The The Devil's Advocate angle is that he's 657 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: gonna throw less. It's not gonna have forces as much. 658 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: If C. J. Spiller is as good as we think 659 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: he'll be in that offense with mark Ingram, that's gonna 660 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: change the way. You know his passing lanes now no 661 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham, of course, but he could also play smarter quarterback. 662 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: Potentially and have a better year than last year. Got 663 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: some Tony Romo action this year. Yeah, I mean he's 664 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 1: had down times before. I remember, I'm looking at two 665 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: thousand ten was not a good year. Just calling the 666 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: Yoyo superstar. No, he's been up for the most part, 667 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 1: but he's a little more up and down than Brady 668 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: or Manning. I just think at some point it all 669 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: the funds got to slow down, and I think the 670 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: Saint have started to prepare for that. They took a 671 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: quarterback early. They started moving to the this you know, 672 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: more running backs on the team and look more to 673 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: the ground game, and it makes sense. I'm not saying 674 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna fall off a cliff, but we're talking the 675 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 1: Superstar club. I mean, he's not over five thousand yards. 676 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: You only got a few members of the Superstar Club. 677 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: And it's time for Drew Brees. Maybe he's no longer 678 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: top five guy. He's more like a ten to fifteen 679 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: guy or some sum game bro. It was the guy 680 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: we called a yo yo superstar earlier. Oh that was 681 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: Akin eventually become the superstar. And I mean some sometimes 682 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: the Superstar Club it gets, you know, it gets a 683 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: little dicey at the door gets a little catty too. 684 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: You gotta, especially if you know a guy who's in 685 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: your same division is walking up. Young guy younger by 686 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: the name of Matt Ryan and Brees like, you know, 687 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: this is my turf. I'm the NFC South's best couarterback. 688 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: Matt's like, no, I'm sorry. Everyone thinks of me as 689 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: a a good quarterback, but I can take it to 690 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: another level. I've got Kyle Shanahan on my team. I'm 691 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: just hitting my prime. I still got all my physical skills. 692 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm smart. It's ready for people to see me in 693 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: that Brady Manning top four or five class. I don't 694 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: see a lot of like high end trash talking between 695 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and Drew Brees. You stink, man, No, you're 696 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: the one that stinks. Yeah, not a lot of swagger. 697 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say between between this, You're not classy man, No, 698 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: you're not class Matt Ryan would not be at the 699 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: top of my list of like guys I would want 700 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: to hang out with at a club. Well, not that 701 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: i'd be at. What are you doing at a club? Anyway? 702 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: What's up? Don't sleep Drew Brees, he can get down. 703 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: He got an he's got something. Whoa, that's what Hank 704 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: says to Hanks has that? Yeah, he does say that. 705 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: But he plays a role. Well, well it's a roll. 706 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: He plays a role. Well he can get down. Is 707 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: that a good thing? Take off your mask, Drew Brees. 708 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 1: Let's see who you really are, boys, and Matthew McConaughey. 709 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: Is he that Like, that's gonna win me over? By 710 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: the way, Matt Ryan, if you want to talk about it. 711 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: We kind of know who a person is at a 712 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: certain point. I feel like I know what Matt Ryan is. 713 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: He's like in the Hall of Very Good I see. 714 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: I disagree. I I think he's had the type of 715 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: career where he is overdue for a monster season where 716 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: all the people around him support him more. He's had 717 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: a maybe not like Tony Romo, but a little like 718 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: Tony Romo, where I think he's better than his overall reputation. 719 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: If things work right, I could see him having an 720 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: m v P caliber type of season. I have. I 721 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 1: loved him last year. I like Matt Ryan a lot, 722 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: but it worries me when the quarterback isn't the best 723 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: player on his own offense and he's not the best 724 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: Julio Jones is the best player on the Ryan's fault. 725 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 1: That's like Calvin Johnson and Matthew Stafford. Nobody thinks Antonio 726 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 1: Brown is more valuable than Ben Roethlisberg. Matt Ryan is 727 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: a little more up and down than you would like 728 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: out of the top quarterbacks. But when he's good, his 729 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: best games are as good as anyone, and he can 730 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 1: get on a role he can make really difficult passes, 731 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: and so I could see him doing that for a season. 732 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: You know that Wes is having a little tiff with 733 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: his boy Odell Beckham when he resists in Eli Manning 734 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 1: cheap shot. Just left it on the table. I can't 735 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 1: believe it. Well, that's too easy. He lies easy to pay. Right, 736 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: Let's go around the horn one more time. West, give 737 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: it to me. Who's ascending? Well, this one might you 738 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: guys might not even allow this one. Andrew Luck career 739 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: completion rate under I don't know if he's a superstar 740 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: m M, but I like I'll put this one with 741 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: my descending guy, Tony Romo. Romo was a what the 742 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: runner up for m V Peelers. Ye, I can see 743 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: Luck doing that this year, And I think this is 744 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: a case maybe where he's already in the Superstar club, 745 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: but then they have a special other room like a 746 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: v I P v I P room. Yeah, he gets 747 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 1: in with Aaron Rodgers and j J. The best player 748 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: in the league. My only hesitation is that if you 749 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: asked thirty two gms who would be the quarterback they 750 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: would take. I don't know if he would like be 751 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: over Rodgers, but he would be one of the top 752 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: three guys in every one of those guy's list. That's fair. 753 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: I had a feeling you were going to reject it, 754 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: but the Romo one is really good because I feel 755 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: like the you know, everything worked perfectly for the Cowboys 756 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: last year, and you get a feeling there could be 757 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: a bit of a course correction. Well, yeah, you see 758 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray isn't there too. Basically, keep the heat off 759 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 1: of Romo this year. And I think it was noticeable 760 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: last year that Jason Witten had lost a few steps, 761 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: so there's a security blanket not making plays. Really, Romo 762 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: last year was a great example of just what I 763 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: was talking about with Matt Ryan, that everything around you 764 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,919 Speaker 1: changes and then the perception of you change. Because Romo 765 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: has been a top ten guy forever. I don't think 766 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: last year for much of the year was one of 767 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,479 Speaker 1: his best seasons. In particular, it'scause everyone else was playing 768 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: up to his level. Um, all right, I'll throw I'll 769 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: throw one out there, Randall cop Jordy Nelson. Is Jordy 770 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: Nelson a superstar? Yes? Absolutely, Okay, Randall Cop not can 771 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: argue that he's the best receiver in the NFL with 772 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: a straight face. You could argue that. So obviously, when 773 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: you have Jordy Nelson on the team, Randall Cobb is 774 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: uh not gonna get as many targets as if he 775 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: was Supreme number one, but so many things working in 776 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: his favorite First of all, he's amazing. Uh you know, 777 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: the guy is a big time playmaker. And he's only 778 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: entering at age twenty season. He's smack in the middle 779 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: of his prime. He's playing with the best quarterback on 780 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 1: the planet. He's playing on an offense that with Eddie 781 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: Lacy and everything else going on to me, seems almost 782 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: destined unless something horrible happens. To score a hundred five 783 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: and fifty points this year, So there's gonna be a 784 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: lot a lot of touchdowns. Randall Cops got all the 785 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: tools and by the end of the season, I wouldn't 786 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: be surprised if you even had a better season statistically 787 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: than Jordy Nelson. This one, I don't I'd be surprised. 788 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. Last year ninety one catches twelve and 789 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: eighty seven yards and twelve tds. It wouldn't surprise me 790 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: if that ends up being the best numbers he ever 791 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: post in his career. M I mean, you got the ceiling. 792 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,280 Speaker 1: You've got Davonte Adams this year too, who's gonna steal targets, 793 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: so you've got more mouse to spoiler alert might be 794 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: on the old making the leaplest. That's why I think 795 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: it makes more sense to knock Jordy Nelson out of 796 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: a superstar club this year coming off a hip surgeon 797 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 1: Nelson is too good, just because just because the other 798 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: hands there. I agree he's too good. But if Cobb 799 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: gets a lot of passes, they're getting a little better 800 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: at tight end. You know, they have Davonte Adam, you know, 801 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,280 Speaker 1: maybe he drops down to eleven hundred or ten fifty 802 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: in yards and that's just kind of a there's no way. 803 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way. What are Cops targets 804 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: one seven. I think I can't see it dipping too 805 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: far below that. Even with if Adams rising, I think 806 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna score a ton of points. And I think 807 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: that he's Rogers loves Randall cop. I mean, he's one 808 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: of those guys that is a security blanket as well. 809 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: So I I like that. And then on the other 810 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: side of it, and this is maybe overdue, and this 811 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: I didn't like having to talk about this because we 812 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: all we all love the man. So I think maybe 813 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: he's been kept in the club a little longer than 814 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: I needed to be. But do you want to take 815 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: a guess, Jeff Cumberland Companies in my Superstar, Uh, it's 816 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: time to say goodbye to Larry Fitzgerald. No, it's got 817 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 1: it's listen. He has not had a one thousand yards 818 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: season since two thousand eleven. He's not he's not the 819 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: same guy. And he's uh, you know, he's getting old. 820 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: He's gonna be thirty two by Week one. Only two 821 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: touchdowns on a hundred and three targets last year. I 822 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: know they had quarterback issues at the end of the season, 823 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,800 Speaker 1: but you can make the argument that he's maybe the 824 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 1: third best wide receiver on his team. Now, I'm just 825 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: gonna say a strong argument, Larry Fitzgerald had had a 826 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: great run. You're in the Hall of Fame, you're wearing 827 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,959 Speaker 1: a yellow jacket one day, but you're no longer super 828 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: stronger argument Jody Nelson the best wide receiver or Larry 829 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: fisherald the third best WI everyone his own team. Well, 830 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 1: that that's not the last one is not a strong argument, 831 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: because he's way better than Michael Floyd. He hasn't topped 832 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: a thousand yards in three straight seasons. That's what I said. 833 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's that's like he's already numbers wise, 834 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 1: he's already not in the super circle. He's used differently 835 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: in in Bruce Arians offense than he used to be used. 836 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: He played a lot more slot and he doesn't run 837 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: the same routes. But there was a five game window 838 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: last year when Palmer was healthy and before Fitzgerald's knee injury, 839 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: where I thought he looked every bit as good as 840 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,919 Speaker 1: he did. That's part that's getting older, and I knew 841 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 1: there would be someone in the group that would feel 842 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 1: this way. West, it's you. I don't like being the 843 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: guy that has to ask them out, do you think 844 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: I feel good about this West? I feel like he's 845 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 1: easily the best receiver on their team, and I think 846 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: he's got he's still a superstar wide receiver. I think 847 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 1: he's got a thirteen hundred yards Sason in him this year. 848 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 1: I think if you're if you're drafting, well, you might 849 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 1: be an exception. But if I was drafting a team 850 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,919 Speaker 1: and I was taking which receivers do I want this year? 851 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: I mean, as Fitzgerald in the top fifteen right now, 852 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: that's a good question. Well, how many superstar receivers are 853 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: there in the club. It can't just be all receivers, 854 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 1: all right. I'm I'm getting a little emotional. I get that. 855 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,240 Speaker 1: I am too. I'm not happy about it. Very good received. 856 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 1: It's like the Hard Knocks scene where the coach calls 857 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: in the guy that he really respects, like the Vet, 858 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: the old grizzled Vet, who has done everything that's been 859 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: act of him. He's been a great teammate and a leader, 860 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: and almost having another coach on the field, it's just 861 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: gotta it's gotta end at some point. Well, I'm gonna 862 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: carousel comes to a stop. I'm going bold. Larry Fitzgerald 863 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl season this year. I would be happy if 864 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 1: it happened. My my last guy I'm kicking out of 865 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: the club is really along along those same lines. Jeff Cumberland, 866 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: the guy we've we've watched a long time. I think 867 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna make the Hall of Fame, but maybe lacking 868 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: a little sizzle that he used to have. Handsome man, 869 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: nice dimples. Often on NFL Network, DeMarcus where good player, 870 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: but let's you know, everyone was like, okay, where he 871 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: had a good season with Denver. It's like, go back 872 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: and think the last few years. Where where are those 873 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: memorable DeMarcus ware plays and moments. I mean, he gets 874 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,359 Speaker 1: his numbers, he gets his sacks. I don't think he's 875 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 1: at the same game wrecking level that he used to be. 876 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: Smart personnel move by the Cowboys. I like that you 877 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: went to his dimples. I would have never known. Now 878 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: I gotta give a shout out to Frag's You know, 879 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,399 Speaker 1: she's never listened to the show, but now she never 880 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: will either, but she'll now be told she got a 881 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 1: shout out. Uh. She pointed that out best best in 882 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: the NFL. She said, maybe his snaps go down a 883 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: little bit. This year, Shane Ray, they draft him. I 884 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 1: mean they're kind of play him a little bit, right, Yeah, 885 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: I mean our guy, Kevin Patrick's in Ohio this week 886 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: for the Rookie Symposium, call him, let's do that, and 887 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: he talked to Shane Ray. Shane Ray said he's going 888 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: to be defensive Rookie of the Year if that's gonna happen. 889 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: And who would lie to Kevin Patra I wouldn't unless 890 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: you're looking for a knuckle sandwich saying, where you know 891 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: backs off a little, you got Von Miller, got Sean Ray, 892 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: Shane Ray, where backs off all right? And then who 893 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,760 Speaker 1: takes his spot? Well? Then the natural guy was coached 894 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: by the same guy who coached DeMarcus Square last year, 895 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 1: Jack del Rio, who says Khalil Max stronger than Von Miller, 896 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 1: and he can stop the run, he can do a 897 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: little bit of everything. You can throw people around, and 898 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 1: this year I think he's gonna finish some of those 899 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: plays where he just hit the quarterback. He'll get those sacks. 900 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 1: And look, everyone knows he's great, already made a Pro Bowl. 901 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: But I think he could have the chance to be 902 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 1: the type of guy you're talking about as a top 903 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: five NFL. You know, defensive player. Yeah. I think the 904 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: question with him is, you know, disruption is important, but 905 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 1: you have to get the sacks and can can he 906 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,919 Speaker 1: be a guy or is he a nine sec? Usually 907 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 1: leads to that. Cameron Wake was a little bit like 908 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: this for a minute, you know, getting a lot of 909 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 1: surries and QB hits. I think he'll get it. Gentlemen, 910 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: you've brought order to the chaos of the Superstar Club. 911 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: One comes in, one's got to go out. And we 912 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: did what we did, and now we'll see if we're right. 913 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure we won't be in many cases. And if 914 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 1: that's the case, we'll never talk of this ever again. 915 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: Mark will be sure to point out Mark Love's pointing 916 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 1: out when we're wrong. Yeah. Well, I guess what Marks 917 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: got another thing on his hands after what TD did, 918 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 1: a little verbal assassination. They funny if TD gave Mark 919 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: the m v P Award for this show, t D 920 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: it is that time of the show. Yeah, just real quick, 921 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: before my hand on m v P. I have a 922 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,320 Speaker 1: guy on Twitter. You're making progress. By the way, this 923 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,359 Speaker 1: is the first time I actually remember this is um 924 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: m VP votes over here. We have a guy called 925 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,760 Speaker 1: James Higgleson who says that he's been giving out podcast 926 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: m vps months and he deserves a shout out the 927 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 1: higgles Yeah, higgles so um he sent me to a 928 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,720 Speaker 1: couple of couple of examples of his podcast m vps 929 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,879 Speaker 1: and hiss just like mine. Never Mark Cessa actually never won. 930 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: Just pointed that out. But for today's show, I'll be 931 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 1: going to be honest, I really don't know, but um, 932 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: I'll go with Dan because this is your idea coming 933 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 1: up with this during your mill and you know it's 934 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: a good it's a good segment, so I'll go with you. 935 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 1: You don't feel like Higgs is stepping on your toes 936 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 1: for this, No, it's fine. I well, if you've noticed 937 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 1: once once Sully try to do it that we never 938 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 1: saw Sully again, not by the last Dan, thanks you 939 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,720 Speaker 1: for the most lukewarm envy. I'll take it. Yeah, Higgs 940 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 1: wants us to be called the James of the Day. 941 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 1: I don't know about that, Higgs, but what the James 942 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 1: of the day, because his name is James, that's not 943 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: that's probably that's not gonna happen. But I feel free 944 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,399 Speaker 1: to continue to award me has gotten plenty of pop 945 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 1: from this. Yeah. Yeah, he's like Joey Watts or um. 946 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 1: All right, thank you very much, t D, Thank you gentlemen. 947 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 1: We'll be back on Thursday. Like said, we'll have maybe 948 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: a special guest in the chair in Mark Spot and 949 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 1: get Kevin Patrick coming at you on the phone that 950 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,760 Speaker 1: hands this signing up for the Mailman and the Boss 951 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,760 Speaker 1: TV and the Irishman behind the Glass until Thursday.