Speaker 1: What made you say yes to the show. When I
Speaker 1: stumbled upon this opportunity, I was like, this is something
Speaker 1: where they're filtering out so many people, such an intense process.
Speaker 1: Who is your favorite cast member on the show. My
Speaker 1: favorite cast member on the show is have your ex broken?
Speaker 1: Titchu up? You know they probably did. Uh. I've got
Speaker 1: a few more messages than you. I bet you've got
Speaker 1: a lot of girls slid from your Dan's boy. Hi. Everyone,
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to have you here with me today.
Speaker 1: As always, thank you so much for joining me. I'm
Speaker 1: your host Cheeky's and today is going to be a
Speaker 1: pretty exciting episode. That's because today's guest is a cast
Speaker 1: member from the popular Netflix reality show Love Is Blind. Guys,
Speaker 1: I've watched the entire show and I've enjoyed every single
Speaker 1: minute of it. I'm not even joking. So I'm super
Speaker 1: excited to talk to today's guest about a bunch of
Speaker 1: different topics. So let's get right into it. This is
Speaker 1: cheek Ease and Chill. Alright, So it's promised. I'm sitting
Speaker 1: here with the one and only sell the Door Perez.
Speaker 1: You know him as Seal, and as I mentioned earlier,
Speaker 1: he is a start on the reality show Love Is
Speaker 1: Blind season two. If you guys haven't seen it yet,
Speaker 1: you guys can binge the entire season on Netflix now,
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you it's a must watch. So sal
Speaker 1: welcome to the show. How are you? Thank you? I
Speaker 1: am really there. You know, it's been a little bit
Speaker 1: different since the show ended. But I'm great, I'm great,
Speaker 1: and I yeah, I'm excited to be here. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much. I'm so excited to talk to you. And okay,
Speaker 1: now let let me let's just get right into it.
Speaker 1: You said that it's been a little different since, like
Speaker 1: the show ended. Why in what way? Well, just for
Speaker 1: off the bat, I'm such a private person, like to
Speaker 1: begin with, so just seeing people like giving me such
Speaker 1: so much support and being stopped like in random situations
Speaker 1: in my life has been an adjustment. But you know,
Speaker 1: people are so nice here and they're so considerate. They're like,
Speaker 1: is this okay? Can I can I talk to you
Speaker 1: a little man? How cute? Where do you live? I
Speaker 1: live in a wicker Park in Chicago, Illinois. Oh nice, Okay,
Speaker 1: I heard somewhere. You're from El Paso? Is that correct? Yes,
Speaker 1: that's always home for me. El Paso, Texas. I was
Speaker 1: not born there, but I was raised there so since
Speaker 1: I was two years old, and then eventually made them
Speaker 1: move over to Chicago. Okay, so let's get into love
Speaker 1: is Blind. So you say that you're a very you know,
Speaker 1: a reserved or private person. What made you say yes
Speaker 1: to the show, to this experiment? Because you're you're in
Speaker 1: your early thirties, right, So what made you feel like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the sleep of faith? You know, originally
Speaker 1: I I thought it would be really fun to try it.
Speaker 1: To be completely honest, I was tired of the apps.
Speaker 1: I had no real luck there. I feel like I
Speaker 1: got a lot of judgment on those apps when I
Speaker 1: was on there. And you know, it's so easy to
Speaker 1: swipe on somebody if if whatever, if they have just
Speaker 1: not the right picture or something like that, then it's
Speaker 1: easy to just like, all right, next person, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So when I stumbled upon this opportunity,
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I mean, this is something where
Speaker 1: they're filtering out so many people. This is such an
Speaker 1: intense process. It's backed by research, it's backed by people
Speaker 1: who are like, this is supposed to work. I don't
Speaker 1: know how much I could say, but there were so
Speaker 1: many questions I had to answer before actually being accepted
Speaker 1: into this. So just right off the bat, I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, if all of these people are going through this,
Speaker 1: I want to see if this actually works. So I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to step out of my comfort
Speaker 1: zone a little bit. And you know, even though I
Speaker 1: am more of a private person, I was just like,
Speaker 1: I want to put it out there. Let's see this
Speaker 1: could be an opportunity for growth. Then maybe I end
Speaker 1: up marrying at the end of it. Well that's good though.
Speaker 1: You're open. You're open to the idea. And did you
Speaker 1: really feel like, okay, if I meet that girl, like
Speaker 1: I'm ready to get married, like you're ready to take
Speaker 1: that step. I definitely felt like I was ready to
Speaker 1: find my person absolutely, yeah. Yeah, But it was I
Speaker 1: had to go into it with an open mind and
Speaker 1: open heart and be just very open to the experience.
Speaker 1: You know, I knew that going I was just like,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go hard, I'm gonna be emotional, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be vulnerable, I'm gonna be open with these people
Speaker 1: and just put my heart on the line. And that's
Speaker 1: exactly what I did, so you did, and I loved you.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I'm like, honestly, I watched it,
Speaker 1: like I got stuck on the show, and you really
Speaker 1: stood out to me because of that. I was like,
Speaker 1: he looks like a genuine person, Like he is in
Speaker 1: touch with his emotions, he's very honest, he knows what
Speaker 1: he wants because you're very young, and usually men like
Speaker 1: aren't ready you know, quote unquote, like until they're like
Speaker 1: their mid thirties, late thirties. But like, I think because
Speaker 1: of your family, and I'm telling I feel like I
Speaker 1: know you right, but I feel like I met your
Speaker 1: sisters on the show. And then I'm like, he comes
Speaker 1: from a good traditional family, it looks like, and he
Speaker 1: has a good head on his shoulders. So I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: if this girl gets your ship together, Mallory, okay, this
Speaker 1: is my show, obviously, whatever I want, guys, Okay. So
Speaker 1: I was like, if she gets her ship together, she's
Speaker 1: gonna take a really good man. And then we'll talk
Speaker 1: about that a little later. But that's just my take
Speaker 1: from the show. So I admire that that you took
Speaker 1: that leap of faith and you were open to that
Speaker 1: experience and that experiment because I'm sure it was scary.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was, but I think it's so
Speaker 1: badass because I was very interested. I'm like, yeah, like
Speaker 1: this is another way, a more genuine fear way to
Speaker 1: meet someone. Yeah, and it thinks I feel like there
Speaker 1: you get frozen into indecision when you have too many choices,
Speaker 1: and I feel like that's what these apps today are
Speaker 1: geared towards. It's just giving you so many you know,
Speaker 1: and you never take the time to get to know
Speaker 1: somebody sincerely, you know. And then so this experience was
Speaker 1: so intense, cheeky, like it was just that was our
Speaker 1: job seven. You know. It's just like finding the person
Speaker 1: that you connect with that you want to spend the
Speaker 1: rest of your life with. And when you put that
Speaker 1: much pressure on one task, like you could really get
Speaker 1: far in that in that goal, you know, you could
Speaker 1: really just because that's your main focus. Yeah. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it was was it for two weeks that you guys
Speaker 1: were in the pods? Um, technically it was like ten
Speaker 1: days of pod dating. The whole experience I think took
Speaker 1: about three weeks, just because we would take breaks or
Speaker 1: we weren't like going into the pods every day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of figured and that was like one of
Speaker 1: my questions because I mean, I come from like reality TV,
Speaker 1: so I just know that even when they would do
Speaker 1: like the edits or like they would cut certain things,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, they're just creating drama. Then
Speaker 1: you watch it and then you're like, Okay, it wasn't
Speaker 1: that bad, you know, But because I know how it works,
Speaker 1: I was a wondering. I'm like, I wonder if they
Speaker 1: were there straight for two weeks or did they take
Speaker 1: like you said, breaks in between. Um, you know, it's television, guys,
Speaker 1: it's television. Certain magic has to happen dates. But don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, Like some days it was harder to
Speaker 1: go on those dates because sometimes like my longest date
Speaker 1: was maybe two and a half hours, three hours inside
Speaker 1: of a pod with oh yeah, and you you just
Speaker 1: sit there and it's okay to be bored with your person,
Speaker 1: you know, Like, but we would just sitting there and talk,
Speaker 1: we just hang out. And sometimes these didn't make it
Speaker 1: on there. Like on some other dates, I would pass
Speaker 1: out a little bit. I was gonna ask, I think,
Speaker 1: did you ever take naps? Dude? Yeah? They give you
Speaker 1: really comfortable love his blind blankets, and so I was nice.
Speaker 1: Well I remember one time, but I won't say who
Speaker 1: I was on the date with, but yeah, I came
Speaker 1: a little bit. And then you wake up and you're like, oh, Dane, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're so respectful. That's so nice of you not to
Speaker 1: say who it was, because you've had two connections, right too,
Speaker 1: strong connections, am I am? I correct? You know for me,
Speaker 1: I had I had three. There were actually deep to
Speaker 1: and I really did connect pretty closely towards the end
Speaker 1: of it, but then we fizzled out at the end
Speaker 1: when we were like top three people, Um, we have
Speaker 1: pettled out by then. But towards the end, I was
Speaker 1: pretty set on Mallory, like it was just like Mallory
Speaker 1: or nobody. And the other two people that were in
Speaker 1: my top three understood that. I think they felt it
Speaker 1: was just like people talk, you know. I was talking
Speaker 1: to the guys and the girls were talking to the girls,
Speaker 1: you know, and so we kind of get around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it got around, and and we never Mallory and
Speaker 1: I were never territorial about each other. It was just
Speaker 1: kind of like we understood that, hey, we have a
Speaker 1: strong connection here. And we're having fun with each other
Speaker 1: and that's it, you know, like there was no real
Speaker 1: poeticition for that, you know. So yeah, another one of
Speaker 1: my favorites is Deep Deep. I felt like she was
Speaker 1: just a very genuine, great person and I was so
Speaker 1: proud of her decision to be honest, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I was so happy at her, Natalie,
Speaker 1: honestly because I just felt like, sorry, guys, spoiler alert
Speaker 1: here if you guys haven't watched the show, but go
Speaker 1: watch it. You'll see what I'm talking about. But Natalie,
Speaker 1: I love. She's such a genuine person too, I feel,
Speaker 1: I mean, from what I could see. But yeah, Deep
Speaker 1: D was awesome. And now that we're talking about Mallory,
Speaker 1: so let me take a deep breath, guys, she really
Speaker 1: upset me at the end. Okay, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: talking crap about nobody. It's just once you see the show,
Speaker 1: it just but you know what, I respect your decision
Speaker 1: like lack in, but I just felt like you guys
Speaker 1: did have a connection in the pod. You guys were
Speaker 1: like vibing and you could tell like how her eyes
Speaker 1: would just light up when you know, you guys would
Speaker 1: talk and then I don't know what the heck happened.
Speaker 1: What do you think happened? Honestly, He's like, there was
Speaker 1: stuff that did happen off camera. We we we were
Speaker 1: just not seeing eye together. And I take very seriously,
Speaker 1: like when somebody hears hears me out well, and when
Speaker 1: I do want us to listen to you and to
Speaker 1: repeat what you are saying to me so that you
Speaker 1: know that I am listening to You're good guy. Sorry, okay, sorry.
Speaker 1: Communication is so important to me. That's how I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's true to everybody. It should be that it's the
Speaker 1: kindest and most considerate thing you could do for somebody
Speaker 1: is sincerely listened to them actively and show them that
Speaker 1: you are with your body with everything you know. And uh,
Speaker 1: I looked out for that, I really do. And I
Speaker 1: felt that when we were having discussions and arguments, I
Speaker 1: found that we would have to have them multiple times,
Speaker 1: and I would start getting frustrated and unheard and I
Speaker 1: would just be like, are you I would tell her, like,
Speaker 1: are you seriously asking me this again? Do you want
Speaker 1: me to explain myself again and discuss what I just
Speaker 1: explained like two minutes ago? Like it was just it
Speaker 1: was frustrating and yeah, because sometimes I think what we
Speaker 1: tend to do and I've learned this the hard way
Speaker 1: in relationships is we listen to react and not listen
Speaker 1: to understand. And when you're in a relationship trying to
Speaker 1: make something work, you need to really give that person
Speaker 1: your undivided attention and really show them I'm getting it,
Speaker 1: and if I don't understand, I'm gonna ask you. But
Speaker 1: sometimes it's like I want to listen to just like
Speaker 1: bark back at you, you know what I mean, And well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna ask you, because I'm sure
Speaker 1: a lot of things did happen off camera that we
Speaker 1: weren't able to see, because you were pretty firm in
Speaker 1: your decision, Like I felt like it was like, from
Speaker 1: one moment to another, like you were really into it.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, something must have happened behind
Speaker 1: the cameras because you just completely were like I'm not
Speaker 1: feeling this at all anymore. And I was really surprised
Speaker 1: at the altar with your with your response, but I
Speaker 1: was also very proud. I was also very happy because
Speaker 1: I just felt like, as a woman, you're watching and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't think she's the one I didn't
Speaker 1: feel it. I was like, I don't think she's ready.
Speaker 1: I think she wants to be ready and she's in
Speaker 1: love with the idea of being in love, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if she's absolutely ready. That's just my personal opinion. Guys,
Speaker 1: everyone that's listening, like, I'm not talking bad about Mary.
Speaker 1: I think we all have our process and we have
Speaker 1: to respect that. But from what I got, I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're on the same frequency, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, No, I totally understand and
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. And there were things that continue
Speaker 1: to happen off of the actual our actual storyline where
Speaker 1: I was just like, I wanted to be sincere to
Speaker 1: the experience case. I'm gonna be completely up with you.
Speaker 1: I wanted to still give it a shot because I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe I could have a change of heart,
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll feel differently when I'm there at the altar.
Speaker 1: And that's why I didn't want to decide until I
Speaker 1: was there, Like I made a decision, I promised myself.
Speaker 1: I was like, for this last week, I don't want
Speaker 1: anybody to know my decision because I haven't made it,
Speaker 1: yet I want to decide it there at the altar,
Speaker 1: and so I stuck to that. I didn't even tell
Speaker 1: my family. My family was worried. They were just like,
Speaker 1: what is he gonna say on the day of the wedding?
Speaker 1: No way, that was my question, like I did. So
Speaker 1: no one knew, You're not even your sisters, no one knew. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they even on the day of like you'll see
Speaker 1: it if you watch it. My all of my siblings
Speaker 1: were holding hands like at the at my wedding because
Speaker 1: they just had no idea if I was actually going
Speaker 1: to say yes or if I was gonna say no.
Speaker 1: You know, but man, but regardless, like they were just
Speaker 1: being very supportive of me. And Malory was not my person. No,
Speaker 1: she wasn't, and she lost a good guy in my
Speaker 1: personal opinion, you know me and my opinions. But okay,
Speaker 1: so do you feel comfortable talking about why when you
Speaker 1: got to the altar you said no, like besides the
Speaker 1: communication stuff or you just weren't. You don't have to
Speaker 1: give us details, but just you know, I'm wondering there
Speaker 1: was one moment that I knew, like, okay, as far
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned right now, this is what my answer
Speaker 1: is going to be. But I'm going to continue going
Speaker 1: on this journey with you. But this is what I
Speaker 1: already know. I'm gonna say, this is what I feel
Speaker 1: I'm leaning towards already, but I'm gonna still give us
Speaker 1: a shot. I don't know if I can say what happened,
Speaker 1: because that's going to come out later. Oh I see, Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, don't worry. Probably wouldn't like that. You're
Speaker 1: gonna give me an exclusive out here, so they're gonna
Speaker 1: be I'll be watching that. It revolved around just like
Speaker 1: this is what happens in relationships. I feel like it's
Speaker 1: nobody's fault. I feel like at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: we're just trying to make it work between us. We're
Speaker 1: trying to see if we can have a good relationship
Speaker 1: between two people, and it takes two to do that.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that I had some things that maybe about
Speaker 1: Mallory was looking for that I didn't provide for her.
Speaker 1: But I'm just voicing the things that I felt weren't
Speaker 1: there for me, And a lot of that was just
Speaker 1: the repetitive arguments that we kept having um and just
Speaker 1: like the lack of communication and connection that we kept
Speaker 1: feeling and it was just we all have our work
Speaker 1: to do ticks, like we all have our trounic that
Speaker 1: we have to go through that we have to process.
Speaker 1: I it didn't work, and it didn't work for us,
Speaker 1: and there was there was things that got in the way,
Speaker 1: both on both sides that we just I can't blame
Speaker 1: her for it because I've also been through stuff like
Speaker 1: that before. You know, like I have gotten an upset
Speaker 1: about things, and I'm talking about like previous relationships too,
Speaker 1: Like I've messed up. I know what it is to
Speaker 1: gas light people, and I've done that before to my girlfriends.
Speaker 1: I'll be very sincere about that because I was I
Speaker 1: used to be insecure about myself and I used to
Speaker 1: have work that I needed to do. But I I
Speaker 1: went to therapy and I did my work. I became
Speaker 1: more aware of like the emotions I was feeling because
Speaker 1: I knew that I couldn't love somebody. I couldn't love
Speaker 1: somebody because I didn't love myself. See, and that's when
Speaker 1: you know that you have healed that or you're on
Speaker 1: that path of healing. Because I think it's it's a
Speaker 1: lifetime thing, you know what I mean, like re evolved
Speaker 1: and we grow and we change. But the fact that
Speaker 1: you can sit here and admit, hey, I used to
Speaker 1: do this. These were my toxic traits. And I feel
Speaker 1: like you're supposed to learn from every relationship and grow
Speaker 1: from it and say, Okay, what am I going to
Speaker 1: do different in my next relationship? Not just blame the
Speaker 1: other person all the time, but also say hey, yes,
Speaker 1: I can also do certain things differently. So that's that's
Speaker 1: awesome of you. Before we move on, I'm very curious,
Speaker 1: what is your sign? Yes? Yes, I uh? I am
Speaker 1: in ferries with a Leo rising ana Taurus moon. Okay, perfect, Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: my brother Johnny is really good at like all the
Speaker 1: chart stuff. The thing is is that you're super connected
Speaker 1: with your feelings and I like that. I think that
Speaker 1: that was awesome because you were on television and you
Speaker 1: didn't care. You're like, You're like, I'm here to experience
Speaker 1: this and I'm not gonna put up a front like, um, homeboy,
Speaker 1: did what deep? This guy? What's his name? Don't even
Speaker 1: Oh my god, shape yes do shake. I could not
Speaker 1: with with my life with him. I'm just like shake,
Speaker 1: just chill out like I think he kind of tried,
Speaker 1: but it's just there's no way. But you, on the
Speaker 1: other hand, we're very connected to like your emotions, and
Speaker 1: you had no problem with shedding a tear two if
Speaker 1: need be. And that's not something that we see a lot,
Speaker 1: especially in our culture, you know. I I wish that
Speaker 1: it wasn't such a rare thing. I wish that it
Speaker 1: was just a human thing for for men to accept
Speaker 1: because we wear so much armor around that. And I
Speaker 1: get emotional talking about this because even after the show,
Speaker 1: one of my cousins that we don't really spend a
Speaker 1: lot of time together, we didn't really get to know
Speaker 1: each other a lot, but he reached out to me
Speaker 1: after the show and he was like, cousin, like, I
Speaker 1: don't I never met you man, Like, I never felt
Speaker 1: like I got to know you that way. But just
Speaker 1: seeing you and seeing you get emotional like that on
Speaker 1: screen and not carrying like it was it was very gosh,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. No, you're fine, or those you're ex
Speaker 1: hitting you up? Have your ex growfriend hit you up?
Speaker 1: You know they probably did. Uh, I've got a few
Speaker 1: more messages than usual. I bet you've got a lot
Speaker 1: of girls sliding your d ms. Boy, they're all beautiful
Speaker 1: and I'll eventually get positive messages. That's all. That's all good, good,
Speaker 1: But no, Yeah, it just just knowing that I reached
Speaker 1: at least one man or a few men that that
Speaker 1: felt like they couldn't express that side of themselves, then
Speaker 1: mission accomplished. Honestly, chickies, But I really feel like that
Speaker 1: needs to be more of a more normalized and it
Speaker 1: shouldn't be a rare thing. And I think that men's
Speaker 1: specifically need to be the ones to show that we've
Speaker 1: heard it enough from everyone else. I feel like men
Speaker 1: need to step up and and show that vulnerability on screen.
Speaker 1: Men who have platforms me to show that because because
Speaker 1: guys are depressed, men are depressed, and it's a there's
Speaker 1: a lot of suicide with with with men. You like
Speaker 1: that that they feel lonely, they feel lost, and it's
Speaker 1: because if you don't have that sensitivity and you don't
Speaker 1: take off that armor, you lack all connections with people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, and you build up this tension you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, within you and you're not releasing. You
Speaker 1: need to release, like I always say, like I'll cry,
Speaker 1: like I'm a crier, and I just feel like it
Speaker 1: just cleanses my soul and I feel so much better afterwards.
Speaker 1: Imagine men in our culture that we're like and you're
Speaker 1: not supposed to cry, and you've gotta be a macho
Speaker 1: and this and that. It's like, dude, like, do you
Speaker 1: understand what you're doing to these to these men, like
Speaker 1: you're not allowing them to express themselves, and what happens
Speaker 1: It turns into depression, anxiety, anger. And this is why
Speaker 1: I think it was great that you, being like the
Speaker 1: age that you are, being Latino, being on this on
Speaker 1: this very famous show, Love his Mind, that you were
Speaker 1: able to just say, hey, like I'm connected with my Like,
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that. Like I just like if
Speaker 1: anything that made you sexier, that made you like more attractive.
Speaker 1: I feel for women, I think that that's like I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: Like that's beautiful. I'm sure a lot of women feel
Speaker 1: like that. So that's why I wanted to ask you,
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I'm glad that you're saying it. I
Speaker 1: think it should be more normalized for sure. So all guys,
Speaker 1: you heard it here first. Crying, Yes, crying is sexy, Okay,
Speaker 1: it makes a girl horny and I'm just skardy. Sorry sorry, okay,
Speaker 1: So anyway, but to kind of wrap that whole thing up, though,
Speaker 1: like I just want to say, like I even heard,
Speaker 1: because I like, I love listening to podcasts that talk
Speaker 1: about that too, and I'm so glad that you're this
Speaker 1: up to Chicky's. There's a really good one, um, I
Speaker 1: followed Justin Baldoni, the one from Jane the Virgin, and
Speaker 1: he talks about literal tears like they're stress hormone in
Speaker 1: your tears when you ride. There are literally stress hormones
Speaker 1: in your tears. There it is. That's freaking awesome. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna listen to it because I've always felt that. I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's a way of releasing toxins from your body, like
Speaker 1: you haven't built up in your chest. And for so
Speaker 1: long I would have just hold it in, and I
Speaker 1: was in a really bad relationship and I hold it in.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to cry. I don't know
Speaker 1: because then he doesn't, like, you know, whatever, it made
Speaker 1: the case maybe, but then I would just go outside
Speaker 1: and just yell and cry, and I feel like, oh
Speaker 1: I feel better now, And then now I know it's
Speaker 1: like it's releasing hormones. That's crazy, that's awesome, that is
Speaker 1: so cool. Thank you for sharing that. See I was right.
Speaker 1: I was right. So tell me do you feel that
Speaker 1: love is Blind taught you or made you really realize
Speaker 1: what you want and don't want in your wife? You know?
Speaker 1: I do feel very lucky to have been a part
Speaker 1: of such an experience because if you're looking at it
Speaker 1: from a numbers perspective, like there's only been the thirty
Speaker 1: of us that went through it of this season and
Speaker 1: then the thirty others that went through it on the
Speaker 1: first season, and to just think about it in that way,
Speaker 1: like and going through the process because there was the pods.
Speaker 1: I think the pods were really the place where I
Speaker 1: felt that I grew and I I had never gone
Speaker 1: so in depth as far as like what's the want
Speaker 1: for me and what's the need in my partner? You know,
Speaker 1: like what is important to me? What do I need
Speaker 1: to talk about as far as finances goes as kids go? Um,
Speaker 1: what are we going to teach our kids? You know?
Speaker 1: Like do I want kids? You know? And so I
Speaker 1: gave so much thought to all of this throughout the
Speaker 1: whole process that now I just feel like dating is
Speaker 1: so much easier because I'm so much more open and
Speaker 1: ready to ask those questions. It was kind of like
Speaker 1: a no bullshit, a no bullshit experience. It It taught
Speaker 1: you had to spot all of it and just rip
Speaker 1: all of that out and just get down to the
Speaker 1: nitty gritty, you know what I mean for sure? I
Speaker 1: mean I really believe like I was, like, if I
Speaker 1: were single and if I could be on a show
Speaker 1: like that, I probably would because I think, like you said,
Speaker 1: like You're going to learn so much about yourself during
Speaker 1: this time and about just humans in general. And I
Speaker 1: was very curious too, because I know you had that
Speaker 1: collection with Mallory with mel But did you did you
Speaker 1: when you saw her? Like did you really you were
Speaker 1: in those pots thinking I don't care what this person
Speaker 1: looks like, I really don't care, Like you were just
Speaker 1: completely engrossed in getting to know that person from her heart,
Speaker 1: like in her mind, and when you saw her in person,
Speaker 1: did you did it change? Like did you feel like,
Speaker 1: oh she's beautiful? Or did you did anything change? No?
Speaker 1: When I saw her in person, you know, well, leading
Speaker 1: up to the whole thing, like I I was not
Speaker 1: worried at all. In fact, I wanted to stay true
Speaker 1: to the experience. There were some other people that were
Speaker 1: like kind of getting hints about how the person looked,
Speaker 1: but I didn't want any of that at all. I
Speaker 1: just I was I just wanted to be surprised. So
Speaker 1: when I first saw her, there was so much that
Speaker 1: I had to process. I feel like my body was
Speaker 1: reacting to to Mallory too, and I was just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm trying to soak this person up
Speaker 1: and and try to put it was so interesting to
Speaker 1: see her mouth and move and hear her voice come
Speaker 1: out of her, and I was just like it was
Speaker 1: like shock, nerves, excitement, you know. And I'm sure that
Speaker 1: she was going through the same thing. But it was
Speaker 1: just kind of like, Okay, now let's build up our
Speaker 1: physical relationship. It was like another step. Yeah, And but
Speaker 1: she's she's extremely beautiful, and I was super excited to
Speaker 1: get to know her, and and I knew that no,
Speaker 1: no matter what, that we were just gonna that it
Speaker 1: was just the next step. Like you said, like the
Speaker 1: physical was just going to be the next step. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that little like like a level of like to add
Speaker 1: to the excitement, you know, what I mean because yeah,
Speaker 1: I think she's beautiful. I think she's very attractive, very
Speaker 1: attractive girl. I love the way she dresses her hair
Speaker 1: and everything. Somebody won't eat that. Um. And you know
Speaker 1: at the reunion, I wat your reunion, right, I'm a fan, guys.
Speaker 1: I was your reunion and I was very freaking like
Speaker 1: I was like like this, literally, I was sitting on
Speaker 1: the couch and I started like clapping when you when
Speaker 1: you came out, and you just were very straightforward because
Speaker 1: you're very like respectful type of guy and you were
Speaker 1: very respectful. But like I was like, damn, he has
Speaker 1: like a backbone. He is not here to funk around.
Speaker 1: He's here to get answers. And I thought that was
Speaker 1: really like it puts you like on another level again
Speaker 1: because I'm like, dude, he's a sensitive guy. He's in
Speaker 1: tune with his emotions, but then he can also like
Speaker 1: stand his own. So I wanted to like tell you
Speaker 1: that because I thought that was a really beautiful moment
Speaker 1: and how you connected with deep T and you were
Speaker 1: just defended her there. I was like, oh heck, yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like that's amazing, Oh my gosh, And like
Speaker 1: they I probably shouldn't say this, but they did make
Speaker 1: Shake look better her than than what what he actually was.
Speaker 1: No way I was going to ask. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: a total douche. Dude, he was a douche. And I
Speaker 1: because I love Deep t I truly do. She's she's
Speaker 1: such a good person inside and out. I feel. I
Speaker 1: even told her after everything was over, I'm like, Deep,
Speaker 1: you are literally going to be the queen of everything
Speaker 1: when you when all of this ends, because of how
Speaker 1: bad this person was too and because you're such a
Speaker 1: good person, the fact that he was so bad to
Speaker 1: you is just gonna you're your Yeah, definitely. And she
Speaker 1: sat there so poised and just wasn't she just like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to sit here in my dress and look
Speaker 1: cute and go ahead, you look like an idiot. So
Speaker 1: I just loved it to the to the end. She
Speaker 1: just kept her class, and I'm like, she's going to
Speaker 1: get a good man out of this. I hope she does,
Speaker 1: because I kill I know he needs some serious I
Speaker 1: don't know what, but so sal tell us what comes
Speaker 1: after love is blind? After love is blind? I just
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, I want a date. I wanna
Speaker 1: open up that door and and and no longer do apps.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's important for me maybe to set
Speaker 1: up a date or two whatever, um, but it's more
Speaker 1: authentic to me to meet somebody in personnel. That's how
Speaker 1: I am going into this. And honestly, like when I
Speaker 1: when I did go on dates after the show, it
Speaker 1: was more so with like better questions. I just I
Speaker 1: was so interested in the person because it was just like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's let's figure this out. Let's see if we actually
Speaker 1: want this. It was so much more easier for me
Speaker 1: to build rapport with somebody because I so like I
Speaker 1: was just a d pent in as far as like,
Speaker 1: let's figure this out, let's day, let's have fun, you know,
Speaker 1: let's let's ask the meaningful questions if that's where we
Speaker 1: want to want this to go and just be revolve
Speaker 1: around honesty, you know, and and good communication and if
Speaker 1: it's if it's casual with somebody, like it's whatever, it's casually,
Speaker 1: you know, but you community had it and you can
Speaker 1: well and it's all consensual. And I feel and I
Speaker 1: feel like, there's, uh, it's really important to have that.
Speaker 1: I guess if I could summarize it at all, what
Speaker 1: I learned the most coming out of this experience is
Speaker 1: how to create a safe space for the women in
Speaker 1: my life. Guys. Oh my gosh, dude, that's awesome. I'm
Speaker 1: your fan, Dude, I'm fed. I want all the guys
Speaker 1: that to listen to this, and it's probably like mainly women,
Speaker 1: but they're probably gonna be like trying to find you.
Speaker 1: But dude, like, yes, yes, you remind me a lot
Speaker 1: of my boyfriend. The way that you speak and the
Speaker 1: way that you express yourself and you're connected, like he
Speaker 1: goes to therapy, Like he's all about making me feel
Speaker 1: safe and I never had that and he's twenty nine, okay,
Speaker 1: so like I know that there are good guys out
Speaker 1: there and he's just it's like when you're ready and
Speaker 1: you know what you want in life and you've gone
Speaker 1: through things and you do what you gotta do, like therapy, life, coaching, mentorship,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, it really does help you, guys. It
Speaker 1: helps the healing process and like sell, So that's awesome
Speaker 1: and the bar is so low for men. It really
Speaker 1: is like if you go to therapy, like they will
Speaker 1: make a parade for you, like good for you, the
Speaker 1: word you know, and it's it's interesting. I feel also
Speaker 1: coming out of this is just understanding like the fact
Speaker 1: that you can only only love somebody as much as
Speaker 1: you love yourself, and I feel like that became more
Speaker 1: evident to me too, and just letting someone in that
Speaker 1: deeply is hard if you if you haven't done that
Speaker 1: work for yourself, you know, that's where insecurities come in,
Speaker 1: because you just haven't done that work. Definitely, you just
Speaker 1: haven't done it, and no one can do it for you.
Speaker 1: No one can. That's a choice that you have to make.
Speaker 1: And whether it's for the person that's in your life
Speaker 1: now or the person that's going to come, it's like,
Speaker 1: if you don't do that work, they're just those things
Speaker 1: are just going to come back and hunt you in
Speaker 1: every single relationships. It's like it's an your choice. You
Speaker 1: gotta really get in there and do the work. Guys.
Speaker 1: I mean we all have them. I have, you know
Speaker 1: what you call those those demons from my past from
Speaker 1: my childhood that I have to constantly go to therapy
Speaker 1: and make sure I keep them in place and I
Speaker 1: keep them suppressed and I just keep growing mentally, emotionally
Speaker 1: and in every way. So it's it's not like, oh,
Speaker 1: you go to therapy. I'm bad, I need help. I'm broken. No,
Speaker 1: like I think we all are kind of a little
Speaker 1: bit broken. We need to be kind of like put
Speaker 1: back together. It's life. It brings us closer together. And
Speaker 1: when you when you understand that that we're all going
Speaker 1: through something. But yes, like you said, it's so good
Speaker 1: to see that you're not jaded. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You're still open, you're still willing, You're still like you know,
Speaker 1: because but you were there for all the right reasons.
Speaker 1: So I think that's why you have, like I said earlier,
Speaker 1: very good head on your shoulders. I can tell from
Speaker 1: the like since I watched the show. So it's so
Speaker 1: nice to be able to speak to you and you know,
Speaker 1: talk about all these things. Now that we're kind of
Speaker 1: like talking, what about we do some singing? Won't you
Speaker 1: sing for us? Was not ready for it, Like I
Speaker 1: wasn't prepared for this. I don't even know what I
Speaker 1: would begin to sing. I am saying just anything anything
Speaker 1: like a little maybe you even sing on the on
Speaker 1: the show. Oh you know, let me see what a
Speaker 1: terrible Joe. You're so cute. Thank you so much, Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you sleeper doing that. Okay, So how
Speaker 1: about now we move on to like a Q and name?
Speaker 1: Are you game for that or what I'm getting? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like little fire questions will some some So here we go.
Speaker 1: Who is your favorite cast member on the show? My
Speaker 1: favorite cast member on the show is, honestly, I have
Speaker 1: to say Danielle. Yeah, she's a sweetheart. Danielle is such
Speaker 1: a sweetheart, I even all off camera and everything, Like,
Speaker 1: I know she's gone through a lot, and I know
Speaker 1: that she she got some heat for being like, um
Speaker 1: so vulnerable on camera, you know, but I feel like
Speaker 1: I feel like inside she she's she's very real and
Speaker 1: she's solid. Yeah, she's she's a great and her and
Speaker 1: deep tea. Yes. Okay, So who is your least favorite
Speaker 1: cast member? Do I even have to say? I know,
Speaker 1: shake fucking yeah, you know, like and look, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to talk bad, but I feel like this goes
Speaker 1: for everybody like you. You have to you have to
Speaker 1: develop your empathy. You have to develop your empathy for
Speaker 1: people and know that what you say have consequences. That's
Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say. What's one thing you think
Speaker 1: the show got wrong about you? Um? I don't sing
Speaker 1: all the time. I think for myself a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, but I think that's one thing they got
Speaker 1: wrong about me. But you know, I pulled out my
Speaker 1: youth once and after that it was just like forget it,
Speaker 1: like we need more youth, we need more youth. That
Speaker 1: was production how they're like, do it more and more.
Speaker 1: I know how reality is, so it's probably yeah, I
Speaker 1: get it. Okay, So how has the show changed your
Speaker 1: perception on dating? You know, if I could summarize it
Speaker 1: like we were saying earlier, chicky, is they really helped
Speaker 1: me just check on the women in my life and
Speaker 1: going in with that same energy, checking in the women
Speaker 1: in my life, making sure that they feel safe around me,
Speaker 1: and going into days in that same way, you know,
Speaker 1: and above everything, make friends first. Be friends with these girls, like,
Speaker 1: show a genuine interest in them. That's what I got
Speaker 1: out of it the most. I want to be a
Speaker 1: friend to women in my life first. It's not about
Speaker 1: it's not all physical, it's not about all about attraction absolutely, Okay. Um,
Speaker 1: have there been any cons to being on the show.
Speaker 1: It's kind of it's kind of hard to put yourself
Speaker 1: out there. It's not really a con though, it's just
Speaker 1: kind of you if it could be if you let
Speaker 1: it get to you, you know. But I feel like
Speaker 1: if you lean into yourself and realize that that's your
Speaker 1: only way to get through this is just to rely
Speaker 1: on yourself and be sure of everything about that is you,
Speaker 1: then then you'll you'll be fine. But it's being a private,
Speaker 1: private person like I am. It was hard for me
Speaker 1: to do that, so um, but not exactly a con Okay,
Speaker 1: So here's an interesting question. So do you think you're
Speaker 1: still ready for marriage? M m oh man. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't think I am. I was so mentally prepared
Speaker 1: in that experience, and it was just like alright, go go, go, go, go,
Speaker 1: like yes, proposal, yes, all right, let's go, let's make
Speaker 1: this work. And it wasn't. There wasn't enough time for
Speaker 1: me to just kind of pause and think. And I
Speaker 1: feel like what really influenced that too, was the fact
Speaker 1: that we can't talk to our families when we're in
Speaker 1: these pods, you know, so bounce these ideas off of anybody.
Speaker 1: It's just you. So it's like, which is fine, Like
Speaker 1: it's all you need, you know, at the end of
Speaker 1: the day. But it was but you're not scared of marriage, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not of like companionship, being with somebody and putting
Speaker 1: in the work, you know, and being committed in monogamous
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Yeah, yeah, being committed monogamous is
Speaker 1: I think if you're with the right person, can be
Speaker 1: very very rewarding. For sure, it comes easy. I feel
Speaker 1: like when you're with that person and you you have
Speaker 1: like a friendship with them as well, it just comes easy.
Speaker 1: It's like, I love this person, I care about this
Speaker 1: person so much. It's like you don't even think about
Speaker 1: other people, about cheating, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you kind of. I mean, don't get me wrong. Your
Speaker 1: your partner will notice another person, you know, like you
Speaker 1: will notice people you know, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: like you know that you're in this together and you
Speaker 1: know what the consequences would be if you did go
Speaker 1: with someone else. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's just poor communication, Like you're not feeling somebody like
Speaker 1: tell them, even if it doesn't mean a breakup. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's better to be honest, you know, A the truth
Speaker 1: goes a long way. So moving on to foods a
Speaker 1: little bit, you know, water burger or in and out
Speaker 1: in out. Yeah right, I want something and out so bad.
Speaker 1: I love water Burger because they have like a lot
Speaker 1: of options. But then again, like I don't really like
Speaker 1: options I like, but just the taste. I would go
Speaker 1: within an out. So I agree with you on that one.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say that I like water Burger.
Speaker 1: The fries are are what's the word over over overrated, overrated, overrated.
Speaker 1: As far as drinks go, tequila or vodka? Oh, tequila? Right? Okay?
Speaker 1: Tequila or beer? Tequila? Okay? Nice? Yeah, I like tequila
Speaker 1: neat just like you know, throw it back lime, a
Speaker 1: little salt perfected on the rocks or blended on the rocks.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I think it's yeah, the rocks is nice. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so alrighty okay. So would you ever go on a
Speaker 1: show like Love Is Blind Again? I think I would.
Speaker 1: I yeah, I would go on a show like Love
Speaker 1: Is Blind Again. It was Ah, it's uncomfortable, but I
Speaker 1: feel like you grow in those uncomfortable situations. So for
Speaker 1: that reason alone, hell yeah, I would do it again.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I love that. I love that. So what's next? Um,
Speaker 1: I just got a new job and I'm working remotely
Speaker 1: so I'm focused on that, and I'm focused on my
Speaker 1: my platform and understanding the responsibility that comes with that,
Speaker 1: you know. And I want to spread some awareness for
Speaker 1: men who might feel alone or who feel like they
Speaker 1: can't open up their heart and feel those emotions. You know.
Speaker 1: So I just sorry, that's my dryer. It's okay, it's okay,
Speaker 1: you wash this us two guys or lady? Should I say?
Speaker 1: That's awesome? But yeah, that's next for me, just making
Speaker 1: sure that my platform is a safe space for everybody
Speaker 1: on there and that they could take something and learn
Speaker 1: something from the from there, you know. And I want
Speaker 1: to focus on providing resources for good resources that have
Speaker 1: helped me in my past, like whether it's platforms, podcasts,
Speaker 1: and yeah, that's really what I'm focused on next. And
Speaker 1: just staying positive and and making people in my life
Speaker 1: are prioritized and safe. That's awesome. And you know what,
Speaker 1: I can see you doing that. I can see you
Speaker 1: doing a podcast and talking about everything that we've talked
Speaker 1: about here. I've learned so much and it's just so
Speaker 1: like like I said, it's a it's a breath of
Speaker 1: fresh air to see that there are good men out
Speaker 1: there and smart men that do their own laundry, you guys,
Speaker 1: that's awesome and drink tequila and seeing damn it do well.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Honestly, sal I am. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: You are for sure one of my favorites on the show,
Speaker 1: and I really connected with you, and thank you. I'm
Speaker 1: so glad that you took the time to talk to
Speaker 1: me and come on my podcast. Thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you much, and I wish you the best, and
Speaker 1: thank you for talking about these topics. It's so important. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: we've got to spread awareness and knowledge to our people,
Speaker 1: you know. So that's why I decided to have my
Speaker 1: own podcast, and it's it's great to have people like
Speaker 1: you on and share your your your socials. Please for
Speaker 1: everyone that's listening. Oh sure, you can find me on
Speaker 1: Instagram at Salvadior zero eight and you could find me
Speaker 1: on TikTok under that same user name. Um. What other
Speaker 1: social do I have? Do you have? Twitter? Facebook? My Space?
Speaker 1: My Space? What does my space? You got my Space? No?
Speaker 1: I don't have. I don't think I have anything else
Speaker 1: can yet? When no worries, you guys can find them
Speaker 1: there these and gentlemen, men that want some advice, okay
Speaker 1: that are ready to step up their game, and ladies,
Speaker 1: um if you just want to tell him nice things
Speaker 1: and stuff, you know. And as for me, as usual,
Speaker 1: you guys, I always leave you with a motivational quote,
Speaker 1: and I have one for you. Let me go ahead
Speaker 1: and read it listens a little longer. But love is
Speaker 1: such a powerful force. It's there for everyone to embrace,
Speaker 1: that kind of unconditional love for all of humankind. That
Speaker 1: is the kind of love that impels people to go
Speaker 1: into the community and try to change conditions, for others
Speaker 1: to take risks for what they believe in. That's one.
Speaker 1: And then love has nothing to do with what you
Speaker 1: are expecting to get, only with what you are expecting
Speaker 1: to give, which is everything. Hopefully those quotes get to
Speaker 1: your guys heart again. I hope you learned a little
Speaker 1: bit about love and men and women and just offen
Speaker 1: experiences and experiments and all that great stuff. I love
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