WEBVTT - Everybody Loves Sal

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<v Speaker 1>What made you say yes to the show. When I

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<v Speaker 1>stumbled upon this opportunity, I was like, this is something

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<v Speaker 1>where they're filtering out so many people, such an intense process.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is your favorite cast member on the show. My

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<v Speaker 1>favorite cast member on the show is have your ex broken?

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<v Speaker 1>Titchu up? You know they probably did. Uh. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a few more messages than you. I bet you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of girls slid from your Dan's boy. Hi. Everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy to have you here with me today.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, thank you so much for joining me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>your host Cheeky's and today is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty exciting episode. That's because today's guest is a cast

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<v Speaker 1>member from the popular Netflix reality show Love Is Blind. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I've watched the entire show and I've enjoyed every single

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<v Speaker 1>minute of it. I'm not even joking. So I'm super

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<v Speaker 1>excited to talk to today's guest about a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>different topics. So let's get right into it. This is

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<v Speaker 1>cheek Ease and Chill. Alright, So it's promised. I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 1>here with the one and only sell the Door Perez.

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<v Speaker 1>You know him as Seal, and as I mentioned earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>he is a start on the reality show Love Is

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<v Speaker 1>Blind season two. If you guys haven't seen it yet,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys can binge the entire season on Netflix now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm telling you it's a must watch. So sal

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the show. How are you? Thank you? I

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<v Speaker 1>am really there. You know, it's been a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>different since the show ended. But I'm great, I'm great,

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<v Speaker 1>and I yeah, I'm excited to be here. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much. I'm so excited to talk to you. And okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now let let me let's just get right into it.

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<v Speaker 1>You said that it's been a little different since, like

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<v Speaker 1>the show ended. Why in what way? Well, just for

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<v Speaker 1>off the bat, I'm such a private person, like to

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<v Speaker 1>begin with, so just seeing people like giving me such

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<v Speaker 1>so much support and being stopped like in random situations

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<v Speaker 1>in my life has been an adjustment. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people are so nice here and they're so considerate. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>is this okay? Can I can I talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>a little man? How cute? Where do you live? I

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<v Speaker 1>live in a wicker Park in Chicago, Illinois. Oh nice, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard somewhere. You're from El Paso? Is that correct? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's always home for me. El Paso, Texas. I was

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<v Speaker 1>not born there, but I was raised there so since

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<v Speaker 1>I was two years old, and then eventually made them

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<v Speaker 1>move over to Chicago. Okay, so let's get into love

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<v Speaker 1>is Blind. So you say that you're a very you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a reserved or private person. What made you say yes

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<v Speaker 1>to the show, to this experiment? Because you're you're in

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<v Speaker 1>your early thirties, right, So what made you feel like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take the sleep of faith? You know, originally

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<v Speaker 1>I I thought it would be really fun to try it.

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<v Speaker 1>To be completely honest, I was tired of the apps.

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<v Speaker 1>I had no real luck there. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of judgment on those apps when I

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<v Speaker 1>was on there. And you know, it's so easy to

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<v Speaker 1>swipe on somebody if if whatever, if they have just

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<v Speaker 1>not the right picture or something like that, then it's

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<v Speaker 1>easy to just like, all right, next person, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So when I stumbled upon this opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, I mean, this is something where

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<v Speaker 1>they're filtering out so many people. This is such an

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<v Speaker 1>intense process. It's backed by research, it's backed by people

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<v Speaker 1>who are like, this is supposed to work. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how much I could say, but there were so

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<v Speaker 1>many questions I had to answer before actually being accepted

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<v Speaker 1>into this. So just right off the bat, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, if all of these people are going through this,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see if this actually works. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm going to step out of my comfort

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<v Speaker 1>zone a little bit. And you know, even though I

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<v Speaker 1>am more of a private person, I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to put it out there. Let's see this

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<v Speaker 1>could be an opportunity for growth. Then maybe I end

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<v Speaker 1>up marrying at the end of it. Well that's good though.

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<v Speaker 1>You're open. You're open to the idea. And did you

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<v Speaker 1>really feel like, okay, if I meet that girl, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to get married, like you're ready to take

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<v Speaker 1>that step. I definitely felt like I was ready to

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<v Speaker 1>find my person absolutely, yeah. Yeah, But it was I

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<v Speaker 1>had to go into it with an open mind and

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<v Speaker 1>open heart and be just very open to the experience.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I knew that going I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna go hard, I'm gonna be emotional, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be vulnerable, I'm gonna be open with these people

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<v Speaker 1>and just put my heart on the line. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what I did, so you did, and I loved you.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, I'm like, honestly, I watched it,

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<v Speaker 1>like I got stuck on the show, and you really

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<v Speaker 1>stood out to me because of that. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>he looks like a genuine person, Like he is in

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<v Speaker 1>touch with his emotions, he's very honest, he knows what

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<v Speaker 1>he wants because you're very young, and usually men like

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<v Speaker 1>aren't ready you know, quote unquote, like until they're like

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<v Speaker 1>their mid thirties, late thirties. But like, I think because

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<v Speaker 1>of your family, and I'm telling I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>know you right, but I feel like I met your

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<v Speaker 1>sisters on the show. And then I'm like, he comes

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<v Speaker 1>from a good traditional family, it looks like, and he

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<v Speaker 1>has a good head on his shoulders. So I was like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>if this girl gets your ship together, Mallory, okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my show, obviously, whatever I want, guys, Okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, if she gets her ship together, she's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take a really good man. And then we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that a little later. But that's just my take

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<v Speaker 1>from the show. So I admire that that you took

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<v Speaker 1>that leap of faith and you were open to that

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<v Speaker 1>experience and that experiment because I'm sure it was scary.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure it was, but I think it's so

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<v Speaker 1>badass because I was very interested. I'm like, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>this is another way, a more genuine fear way to

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<v Speaker 1>meet someone. Yeah, and it thinks I feel like there

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<v Speaker 1>you get frozen into indecision when you have too many choices,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like that's what these apps today are

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<v Speaker 1>geared towards. It's just giving you so many you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you never take the time to get to know

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<v Speaker 1>somebody sincerely, you know. And then so this experience was

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<v Speaker 1>so intense, cheeky, like it was just that was our

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<v Speaker 1>job seven. You know. It's just like finding the person

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<v Speaker 1>that you connect with that you want to spend the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of your life with. And when you put that

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<v Speaker 1>much pressure on one task, like you could really get

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<v Speaker 1>far in that in that goal, you know, you could

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<v Speaker 1>really just because that's your main focus. Yeah. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>it was was it for two weeks that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>were in the pods? Um, technically it was like ten

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<v Speaker 1>days of pod dating. The whole experience I think took

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<v Speaker 1>about three weeks, just because we would take breaks or

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't like going into the pods every day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of figured and that was like one of

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<v Speaker 1>my questions because I mean, I come from like reality TV,

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<v Speaker 1>so I just know that even when they would do

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<v Speaker 1>like the edits or like they would cut certain things,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh my god, they're just creating drama. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you watch it and then you're like, Okay, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>that bad, you know, But because I know how it works,

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<v Speaker 1>I was a wondering. I'm like, I wonder if they

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<v Speaker 1>were there straight for two weeks or did they take

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, breaks in between. Um, you know, it's television, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>it's television. Certain magic has to happen dates. But don't

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<v Speaker 1>get me wrong, Like some days it was harder to

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<v Speaker 1>go on those dates because sometimes like my longest date

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<v Speaker 1>was maybe two and a half hours, three hours inside

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<v Speaker 1>of a pod with oh yeah, and you you just

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<v Speaker 1>sit there and it's okay to be bored with your person,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Like, but we would just sitting there and talk,

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<v Speaker 1>we just hang out. And sometimes these didn't make it

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<v Speaker 1>on there. Like on some other dates, I would pass

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<v Speaker 1>out a little bit. I was gonna ask, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>did you ever take naps? Dude? Yeah? They give you

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<v Speaker 1>really comfortable love his blind blankets, and so I was nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I remember one time, but I won't say who

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<v Speaker 1>I was on the date with, but yeah, I came

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. And then you wake up and you're like, oh, Dane, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're so respectful. That's so nice of you not to

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<v Speaker 1>say who it was, because you've had two connections, right too,

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<v Speaker 1>strong connections, am I am? I correct? You know for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I had I had three. There were actually deep to

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<v Speaker 1>and I really did connect pretty closely towards the end

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<v Speaker 1>of it, but then we fizzled out at the end

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<v Speaker 1>when we were like top three people, Um, we have

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<v Speaker 1>pettled out by then. But towards the end, I was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty set on Mallory, like it was just like Mallory

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<v Speaker 1>or nobody. And the other two people that were in

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<v Speaker 1>my top three understood that. I think they felt it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like people talk, you know. I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to the guys and the girls were talking to the girls,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and so we kind of get around. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it got around, and and we never Mallory and

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<v Speaker 1>I were never territorial about each other. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like we understood that, hey, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>strong connection here. And we're having fun with each other

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<v Speaker 1>and that's it, you know, like there was no real

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<v Speaker 1>poeticition for that, you know. So yeah, another one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorites is Deep Deep. I felt like she was

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<v Speaker 1>just a very genuine, great person and I was so

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<v Speaker 1>proud of her decision to be honest, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I was so happy at her, Natalie,

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<v Speaker 1>honestly because I just felt like, sorry, guys, spoiler alert

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<v Speaker 1>here if you guys haven't watched the show, but go

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<v Speaker 1>watch it. You'll see what I'm talking about. But Natalie,

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<v Speaker 1>I love. She's such a genuine person too, I feel,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, from what I could see. But yeah, Deep

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<v Speaker 1>D was awesome. And now that we're talking about Mallory,

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<v Speaker 1>so let me take a deep breath, guys, she really

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<v Speaker 1>upset me at the end. Okay, I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>talking crap about nobody. It's just once you see the show,

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<v Speaker 1>it just but you know what, I respect your decision

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<v Speaker 1>like lack in, but I just felt like you guys

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<v Speaker 1>did have a connection in the pod. You guys were

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<v Speaker 1>like vibing and you could tell like how her eyes

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<v Speaker 1>would just light up when you know, you guys would

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<v Speaker 1>talk and then I don't know what the heck happened.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think happened? Honestly, He's like, there was

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that did happen off camera. We we we were

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<v Speaker 1>just not seeing eye together. And I take very seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>like when somebody hears hears me out well, and when

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<v Speaker 1>I do want us to listen to you and to

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<v Speaker 1>repeat what you are saying to me so that you

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<v Speaker 1>know that I am listening to You're good guy. Sorry, okay, sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Communication is so important to me. That's how I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's true to everybody. It should be that it's the

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<v Speaker 1>kindest and most considerate thing you could do for somebody

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<v Speaker 1>is sincerely listened to them actively and show them that

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<v Speaker 1>you are with your body with everything you know. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I looked out for that, I really do. And I

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<v Speaker 1>felt that when we were having discussions and arguments, I

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<v Speaker 1>found that we would have to have them multiple times,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would start getting frustrated and unheard and I

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<v Speaker 1>would just be like, are you I would tell her, like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you seriously asking me this again? Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>me to explain myself again and discuss what I just

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<v Speaker 1>explained like two minutes ago? Like it was just it

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<v Speaker 1>was frustrating and yeah, because sometimes I think what we

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<v Speaker 1>tend to do and I've learned this the hard way

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<v Speaker 1>in relationships is we listen to react and not listen

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<v Speaker 1>to understand. And when you're in a relationship trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make something work, you need to really give that person

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<v Speaker 1>your undivided attention and really show them I'm getting it,

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<v Speaker 1>and if I don't understand, I'm gonna ask you. But

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's like I want to listen to just like

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<v Speaker 1>bark back at you, you know what I mean, And well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I was gonna ask you, because I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things did happen off camera that we

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<v Speaker 1>weren't able to see, because you were pretty firm in

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<v Speaker 1>your decision, Like I felt like it was like, from

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<v Speaker 1>one moment to another, like you were really into it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I was like, something must have happened behind

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<v Speaker 1>the cameras because you just completely were like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>feeling this at all anymore. And I was really surprised

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<v Speaker 1>at the altar with your with your response, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was also very proud. I was also very happy because

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt like, as a woman, you're watching and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't think she's the one I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel it. I was like, I don't think she's ready.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she wants to be ready and she's in

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<v Speaker 1>love with the idea of being in love, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if she's absolutely ready. That's just my personal opinion. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone that's listening, like, I'm not talking bad about Mary.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all have our process and we have

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<v Speaker 1>to respect that. But from what I got, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they're on the same frequency, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Yeah, No, I totally understand and

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<v Speaker 1>hear what you're saying. And there were things that continue

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<v Speaker 1>to happen off of the actual our actual storyline where

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, I wanted to be sincere to

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<v Speaker 1>the experience case. I'm gonna be completely up with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to still give it a shot because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, maybe I could have a change of heart,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'll feel differently when I'm there at the altar.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I didn't want to decide until I

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<v Speaker 1>was there, Like I made a decision, I promised myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, for this last week, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>anybody to know my decision because I haven't made it,

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<v Speaker 1>yet I want to decide it there at the altar,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I stuck to that. I didn't even tell

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<v Speaker 1>my family. My family was worried. They were just like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is he gonna say on the day of the wedding?

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<v Speaker 1>No way, that was my question, like I did. So

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<v Speaker 1>no one knew, You're not even your sisters, no one knew. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they even on the day of like you'll see

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<v Speaker 1>it if you watch it. My all of my siblings

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<v Speaker 1>were holding hands like at the at my wedding because

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<v Speaker 1>they just had no idea if I was actually going

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<v Speaker 1>to say yes or if I was gonna say no.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, but man, but regardless, like they were just

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<v Speaker 1>being very supportive of me. And Malory was not my person. No,

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<v Speaker 1>she wasn't, and she lost a good guy in my

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<v Speaker 1>personal opinion, you know me and my opinions. But okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so do you feel comfortable talking about why when you

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<v Speaker 1>got to the altar you said no, like besides the

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<v Speaker 1>communication stuff or you just weren't. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>give us details, but just you know, I'm wondering there

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<v Speaker 1>was one moment that I knew, like, okay, as far

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm concerned right now, this is what my answer

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be. But I'm going to continue going

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<v Speaker 1>on this journey with you. But this is what I

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<v Speaker 1>already know. I'm gonna say, this is what I feel

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<v Speaker 1>I'm leaning towards already, but I'm gonna still give us

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<v Speaker 1>a shot. I don't know if I can say what happened,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's going to come out later. Oh I see, Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, don't worry. Probably wouldn't like that. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give me an exclusive out here, so they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be I'll be watching that. It revolved around just like

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<v Speaker 1>this is what happens in relationships. I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's fault. I feel like at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just trying to make it work between us. We're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to see if we can have a good relationship

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<v Speaker 1>between two people, and it takes two to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that I had some things that maybe about

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<v Speaker 1>Mallory was looking for that I didn't provide for her.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just voicing the things that I felt weren't

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<v Speaker 1>there for me, And a lot of that was just

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<v Speaker 1>the repetitive arguments that we kept having um and just

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<v Speaker 1>like the lack of communication and connection that we kept

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<v Speaker 1>feeling and it was just we all have our work

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<v Speaker 1>to do ticks, like we all have our trounic that

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<v Speaker 1>we have to go through that we have to process.

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<v Speaker 1>I it didn't work, and it didn't work for us,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was there was things that got in the way,

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<v Speaker 1>both on both sides that we just I can't blame

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<v Speaker 1>her for it because I've also been through stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>that before. You know, like I have gotten an upset

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<v Speaker 1>about things, and I'm talking about like previous relationships too,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've messed up. I know what it is to

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<v Speaker 1>gas light people, and I've done that before to my girlfriends.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be very sincere about that because I was I

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<v Speaker 1>used to be insecure about myself and I used to

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<v Speaker 1>have work that I needed to do. But I I

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<v Speaker 1>went to therapy and I did my work. I became

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<v Speaker 1>more aware of like the emotions I was feeling because

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that I couldn't love somebody. I couldn't love

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<v Speaker 1>somebody because I didn't love myself. See, and that's when

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<v Speaker 1>you know that you have healed that or you're on

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<v Speaker 1>that path of healing. Because I think it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>lifetime thing, you know what I mean, like re evolved

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<v Speaker 1>and we grow and we change. But the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you can sit here and admit, hey, I used to

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<v Speaker 1>do this. These were my toxic traits. And I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you're supposed to learn from every relationship and grow

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<v Speaker 1>from it and say, Okay, what am I going to

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<v Speaker 1>do different in my next relationship? Not just blame the

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<v Speaker 1>other person all the time, but also say hey, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I can also do certain things differently. So that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>awesome of you. Before we move on, I'm very curious,

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<v Speaker 1>what is your sign? Yes? Yes, I uh? I am

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<v Speaker 1>in ferries with a Leo rising ana Taurus moon. Okay, perfect, Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my brother Johnny is really good at like all the

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<v Speaker 1>chart stuff. The thing is is that you're super connected

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<v Speaker 1>with your feelings and I like that. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that was awesome because you were on television and you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't care. You're like, You're like, I'm here to experience

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<v Speaker 1>this and I'm not gonna put up a front like, um, homeboy,

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<v Speaker 1>did what deep? This guy? What's his name? Don't even

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, shape yes do shake. I could not

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<v Speaker 1>with with my life with him. I'm just like shake,

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<v Speaker 1>just chill out like I think he kind of tried,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just there's no way. But you, on the

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<v Speaker 1>other hand, we're very connected to like your emotions, and

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<v Speaker 1>you had no problem with shedding a tear two if

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<v Speaker 1>need be. And that's not something that we see a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in our culture, you know. I I wish that

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't such a rare thing. I wish that it

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<v Speaker 1>was just a human thing for for men to accept

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<v Speaker 1>because we wear so much armor around that. And I

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<v Speaker 1>get emotional talking about this because even after the show,

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<v Speaker 1>one of my cousins that we don't really spend a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time together, we didn't really get to know

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<v Speaker 1>each other a lot, but he reached out to me

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<v Speaker 1>after the show and he was like, cousin, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I never met you man, Like, I never felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I got to know you that way. But just

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<v Speaker 1>seeing you and seeing you get emotional like that on

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<v Speaker 1>screen and not carrying like it was it was very gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry. No, you're fine, or those you're ex

0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:12.200
<v Speaker 1>hitting you up? Have your ex growfriend hit you up?

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<v Speaker 1>You know they probably did. Uh, I've got a few

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<v Speaker 1>more messages than usual. I bet you've got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of girls sliding your d ms. Boy, they're all beautiful

0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:38.600
<v Speaker 1>and I'll eventually get positive messages. That's all. That's all good, good,

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<v Speaker 1>But no, Yeah, it just just knowing that I reached

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<v Speaker 1>at least one man or a few men that that

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<v Speaker 1>felt like they couldn't express that side of themselves, then

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<v Speaker 1>mission accomplished. Honestly, chickies, But I really feel like that

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be more of a more normalized and it

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be a rare thing. And I think that men's

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<v Speaker 1>specifically need to be the ones to show that we've

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<v Speaker 1>heard it enough from everyone else. I feel like men

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<v Speaker 1>need to step up and and show that vulnerability on screen.

0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Men who have platforms me to show that because because

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<v Speaker 1>guys are depressed, men are depressed, and it's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of suicide with with with men. You like

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<v Speaker 1>that that they feel lonely, they feel lost, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>because if you don't have that sensitivity and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>take off that armor, you lack all connections with people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, and you build up this tension you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, within you and you're not releasing. You

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<v Speaker 1>need to release, like I always say, like I'll cry,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm a crier, and I just feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>just cleanses my soul and I feel so much better afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine men in our culture that we're like and you're

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<v Speaker 1>not supposed to cry, and you've gotta be a macho

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<v Speaker 1>and this and that. It's like, dude, like, do you

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<v Speaker 1>understand what you're doing to these to these men, like

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<v Speaker 1>you're not allowing them to express themselves, and what happens

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<v Speaker 1>It turns into depression, anxiety, anger. And this is why

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was great that you, being like the

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<v Speaker 1>age that you are, being Latino, being on this on

0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.880
<v Speaker 1>this very famous show, Love his Mind, that you were

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<v Speaker 1>able to just say, hey, like I'm connected with my Like,

0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:11.040
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing wrong with that. Like I just like if

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<v Speaker 1>anything that made you sexier, that made you like more attractive.

0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:17.119
<v Speaker 1>I feel for women, I think that that's like I'm like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's beautiful. I'm sure a lot of women feel

0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:21.480
<v Speaker 1>like that. So that's why I wanted to ask you,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, I'm glad that you're saying it. I

0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:26.879
<v Speaker 1>think it should be more normalized for sure. So all guys,

0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:32.400
<v Speaker 1>you heard it here first. Crying, Yes, crying is sexy, Okay,

0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:37.600
<v Speaker 1>it makes a girl horny and I'm just skardy. Sorry sorry, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, but to kind of wrap that whole thing up, though,

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<v Speaker 1>like I just want to say, like I even heard,

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<v Speaker 1>because I like, I love listening to podcasts that talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that too, and I'm so glad that you're this

0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:53.720
<v Speaker 1>up to Chicky's. There's a really good one, um, I

0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:57.040
<v Speaker 1>followed Justin Baldoni, the one from Jane the Virgin, and

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<v Speaker 1>he talks about literal tears like they're stress hormone in

0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:04.480
<v Speaker 1>your tears when you ride. There are literally stress hormones

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<v Speaker 1>in your tears. There it is. That's freaking awesome. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna listen to it because I've always felt that. I'm like,

0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:13.520
<v Speaker 1>it's a way of releasing toxins from your body, like

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't built up in your chest. And for so

0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:17.720
<v Speaker 1>long I would have just hold it in, and I

0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:19.639
<v Speaker 1>was in a really bad relationship and I hold it in.

0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't want to cry. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>because then he doesn't, like, you know, whatever, it made

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<v Speaker 1>the case maybe, but then I would just go outside

0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.520
<v Speaker 1>and just yell and cry, and I feel like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>I feel better now, And then now I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's releasing hormones. That's crazy, that's awesome, that is

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<v Speaker 1>so cool. Thank you for sharing that. See I was right.

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<v Speaker 1>I was right. So tell me do you feel that

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<v Speaker 1>love is Blind taught you or made you really realize

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<v Speaker 1>what you want and don't want in your wife? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I do feel very lucky to have been a part

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<v Speaker 1>of such an experience because if you're looking at it

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<v Speaker 1>from a numbers perspective, like there's only been the thirty

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<v Speaker 1>of us that went through it of this season and

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<v Speaker 1>then the thirty others that went through it on the

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<v Speaker 1>first season, and to just think about it in that way,

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<v Speaker 1>like and going through the process because there was the pods.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the pods were really the place where I

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<v Speaker 1>felt that I grew and I I had never gone

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<v Speaker 1>so in depth as far as like what's the want

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<v Speaker 1>for me and what's the need in my partner? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like what is important to me? What do I need

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about as far as finances goes as kids go? Um,

0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:31.399
<v Speaker 1>what are we going to teach our kids? You know?

0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:33.399
<v Speaker 1>Like do I want kids? You know? And so I

0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:36.439
<v Speaker 1>gave so much thought to all of this throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>whole process that now I just feel like dating is

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<v Speaker 1>so much easier because I'm so much more open and

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<v Speaker 1>ready to ask those questions. It was kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>a no bullshit, a no bullshit experience. It It taught

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<v Speaker 1>you had to spot all of it and just rip

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<v Speaker 1>all of that out and just get down to the

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<v Speaker 1>nitty gritty, you know what I mean for sure? I

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:03.359
<v Speaker 1>mean I really believe like I was, like, if I

0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:06.400
<v Speaker 1>were single and if I could be on a show

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:08.359
<v Speaker 1>like that, I probably would because I think, like you said,

0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:11.440
<v Speaker 1>like You're going to learn so much about yourself during

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:15.280
<v Speaker 1>this time and about just humans in general. And I

0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:17.679
<v Speaker 1>was very curious too, because I know you had that

0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:20.719
<v Speaker 1>collection with Mallory with mel But did you did you

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:22.679
<v Speaker 1>when you saw her? Like did you really you were

0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:25.040
<v Speaker 1>in those pots thinking I don't care what this person

0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:28.359
<v Speaker 1>looks like, I really don't care, Like you were just

0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:31.960
<v Speaker 1>completely engrossed in getting to know that person from her heart,

0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 1>like in her mind, and when you saw her in person,

0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:36.879
<v Speaker 1>did you did it change? Like did you feel like,

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:39.879
<v Speaker 1>oh she's beautiful? Or did you did anything change? No?

0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:43.200
<v Speaker 1>When I saw her in person, you know, well, leading

0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:45.840
<v Speaker 1>up to the whole thing, like I I was not

0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:48.840
<v Speaker 1>worried at all. In fact, I wanted to stay true

0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:51.480
<v Speaker 1>to the experience. There were some other people that were

0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:55.520
<v Speaker 1>like kind of getting hints about how the person looked,

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:57.800
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't want any of that at all. I

0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:00.359
<v Speaker 1>just I was I just wanted to be surprised. So

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:04.480
<v Speaker 1>when I first saw her, there was so much that

0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:07.119
<v Speaker 1>I had to process. I feel like my body was

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 1>reacting to to Mallory too, and I was just like,

0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:13.360
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I'm trying to soak this person up

0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 1>and and try to put it was so interesting to

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:21.160
<v Speaker 1>see her mouth and move and hear her voice come

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:23.679
<v Speaker 1>out of her, and I was just like it was

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 1>like shock, nerves, excitement, you know. And I'm sure that

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:30.879
<v Speaker 1>she was going through the same thing. But it was

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:33.680
<v Speaker 1>just kind of like, Okay, now let's build up our

0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:39.040
<v Speaker 1>physical relationship. It was like another step. Yeah, And but

0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:42.680
<v Speaker 1>she's she's extremely beautiful, and I was super excited to

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:46.399
<v Speaker 1>get to know her, and and I knew that no,

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 1>no matter what, that we were just gonna that it

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:50.439
<v Speaker 1>was just the next step. Like you said, like the

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:53.080
<v Speaker 1>physical was just going to be the next step. So yeah,

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:56.400
<v Speaker 1>that little like like a level of like to add

0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:58.120
<v Speaker 1>to the excitement, you know, what I mean because yeah,

0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:00.119
<v Speaker 1>I think she's beautiful. I think she's very attractive, very

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 1>attractive girl. I love the way she dresses her hair

0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 1>and everything. Somebody won't eat that. Um. And you know

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:09.119
<v Speaker 1>at the reunion, I wat your reunion, right, I'm a fan, guys.

0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I was your reunion and I was very freaking like

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I was like like this, literally, I was sitting on

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the couch and I started like clapping when you when

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 1>you came out, and you just were very straightforward because

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:23.159
<v Speaker 1>you're very like respectful type of guy and you were

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 1>very respectful. But like I was like, damn, he has

0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 1>like a backbone. He is not here to funk around.

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:33.239
<v Speaker 1>He's here to get answers. And I thought that was

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 1>really like it puts you like on another level again

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:38.960
<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, dude, he's a sensitive guy. He's in

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 1>tune with his emotions, but then he can also like

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 1>stand his own. So I wanted to like tell you

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:46.399
<v Speaker 1>that because I thought that was a really beautiful moment

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>and how you connected with deep T and you were

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 1>just defended her there. I was like, oh heck, yeah.

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I was like that's amazing, Oh my gosh, And like

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:59.120
<v Speaker 1>they I probably shouldn't say this, but they did make

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Shake look better her than than what what he actually was.

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>No way I was going to ask. Yeah, he was

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a total douche. Dude, he was a douche. And I

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 1>because I love Deep t I truly do. She's she's

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:15.679
<v Speaker 1>such a good person inside and out. I feel. I

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:18.520
<v Speaker 1>even told her after everything was over, I'm like, Deep,

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:20.959
<v Speaker 1>you are literally going to be the queen of everything

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:23.120
<v Speaker 1>when you when all of this ends, because of how

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:25.560
<v Speaker 1>bad this person was too and because you're such a

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:29.240
<v Speaker 1>good person, the fact that he was so bad to

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>you is just gonna you're your Yeah, definitely. And she

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:40.240
<v Speaker 1>sat there so poised and just wasn't she just like,

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to sit here in my dress and look

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:44.359
<v Speaker 1>cute and go ahead, you look like an idiot. So

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I just loved it to the to the end. She

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>just kept her class, and I'm like, she's going to

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 1>get a good man out of this. I hope she does,

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:54.879
<v Speaker 1>because I kill I know he needs some serious I

0:26:54.920 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know what, but so sal tell us what comes

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 1>after love is blind? After love is blind? I just

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking to myself, I want a date. I wanna

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 1>open up that door and and and no longer do apps.

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's important for me maybe to set

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:18.640
<v Speaker 1>up a date or two whatever, um, but it's more

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 1>authentic to me to meet somebody in personnel. That's how

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>I am going into this. And honestly, like when I

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:26.919
<v Speaker 1>when I did go on dates after the show, it

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>was more so with like better questions. I just I

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 1>was so interested in the person because it was just like, hey,

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>let's let's figure this out. Let's see if we actually

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>want this. It was so much more easier for me

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:41.159
<v Speaker 1>to build rapport with somebody because I so like I

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:43.360
<v Speaker 1>was just a d pent in as far as like,

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 1>let's figure this out, let's day, let's have fun, you know,

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:49.199
<v Speaker 1>let's let's ask the meaningful questions if that's where we

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 1>want to want this to go and just be revolve

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.160
<v Speaker 1>around honesty, you know, and and good communication and if

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:59.120
<v Speaker 1>it's if it's casual with somebody, like it's whatever, it's casually,

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, but you community had it and you can

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:03.679
<v Speaker 1>well and it's all consensual. And I feel and I

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>feel like, there's, uh, it's really important to have that.

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 1>I guess if I could summarize it at all, what

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>I learned the most coming out of this experience is

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.119
<v Speaker 1>how to create a safe space for the women in

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 1>my life. Guys. Oh my gosh, dude, that's awesome. I'm

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 1>your fan, Dude, I'm fed. I want all the guys

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:26.119
<v Speaker 1>that to listen to this, and it's probably like mainly women,

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 1>but they're probably gonna be like trying to find you.

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:32.160
<v Speaker 1>But dude, like, yes, yes, you remind me a lot

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>of my boyfriend. The way that you speak and the

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 1>way that you express yourself and you're connected, like he

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>goes to therapy, Like he's all about making me feel

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>safe and I never had that and he's twenty nine, okay,

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:46.479
<v Speaker 1>so like I know that there are good guys out

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 1>there and he's just it's like when you're ready and

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 1>you know what you want in life and you've gone

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>through things and you do what you gotta do, like therapy, life, coaching, mentorship,

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, it really does help you, guys. It

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>helps the healing process and like sell, So that's awesome

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 1>and the bar is so low for men. It really

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>is like if you go to therapy, like they will

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 1>make a parade for you, like good for you, the

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>word you know, and it's it's interesting. I feel also

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 1>coming out of this is just understanding like the fact

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 1>that you can only only love somebody as much as

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>you love yourself, and I feel like that became more

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 1>evident to me too, and just letting someone in that

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 1>deeply is hard if you if you haven't done that

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 1>work for yourself, you know, that's where insecurities come in,

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 1>because you just haven't done that work. Definitely, you just

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>haven't done it, and no one can do it for you.

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>No one can. That's a choice that you have to make.

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>And whether it's for the person that's in your life

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>now or the person that's going to come, it's like,

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 1>if you don't do that work, they're just those things

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>are just going to come back and hunt you in

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>every single relationships. It's like it's an your choice. You

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 1>gotta really get in there and do the work. Guys.

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean we all have them. I have, you know

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>what you call those those demons from my past from

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>my childhood that I have to constantly go to therapy

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>and make sure I keep them in place and I

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 1>keep them suppressed and I just keep growing mentally, emotionally

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>and in every way. So it's it's not like, oh,

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>you go to therapy. I'm bad, I need help. I'm broken. No,

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 1>like I think we all are kind of a little

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 1>bit broken. We need to be kind of like put

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 1>back together. It's life. It brings us closer together. And

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>when you when you understand that that we're all going

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>through something. But yes, like you said, it's so good

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 1>to see that you're not jaded. You know what I mean.

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 1>You're still open, you're still willing, You're still like you know,

0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>because but you were there for all the right reasons.

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's why you have, like I said earlier,

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>very good head on your shoulders. I can tell from

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the like since I watched the show. So it's so

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>nice to be able to speak to you and you know,

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 1>talk about all these things. Now that we're kind of

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 1>like talking, what about we do some singing? Won't you

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>sing for us? Was not ready for it, Like I

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>wasn't prepared for this. I don't even know what I

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>would begin to sing. I am saying just anything anything

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>like a little maybe you even sing on the on

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the show. Oh you know, let me see what a

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>terrible Joe. You're so cute. Thank you so much, Yeah,

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 1>thank you, thank you sleeper doing that. Okay, So how

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 1>about now we move on to like a Q and name?

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Are you game for that or what I'm getting? Yeah?

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:10.959
<v Speaker 1>Like little fire questions will some some So here we go.

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Who is your favorite cast member on the show? My

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>favorite cast member on the show is, honestly, I have

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>to say Danielle. Yeah, she's a sweetheart. Danielle is such

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 1>a sweetheart, I even all off camera and everything, Like,

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I know she's gone through a lot, and I know

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>that she she got some heat for being like, um

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 1>so vulnerable on camera, you know, but I feel like

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like inside she she's she's very real and

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:46.440
<v Speaker 1>she's solid. Yeah, she's she's a great and her and

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 1>deep tea. Yes. Okay, So who is your least favorite

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 1>cast member? Do I even have to say? I know,

0:32:55.040 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 1>shake fucking yeah, you know, like and look, I'm not

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>going to talk bad, but I feel like this goes

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 1>for everybody like you. You have to you have to

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>develop your empathy. You have to develop your empathy for

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 1>people and know that what you say have consequences. That's

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 1>That's all I'm gonna say. What's one thing you think

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>the show got wrong about you? Um? I don't sing

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 1>all the time. I think for myself a little bit,

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, but I think that's one thing they got

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 1>wrong about me. But you know, I pulled out my

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>youth once and after that it was just like forget it,

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>like we need more youth, we need more youth. That

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 1>was production how they're like, do it more and more.

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I know how reality is, so it's probably yeah, I

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>get it. Okay, So how has the show changed your

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>perception on dating? You know, if I could summarize it

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>like we were saying earlier, chicky, is they really helped

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>me just check on the women in my life and

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 1>going in with that same energy, checking in the women

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.399
<v Speaker 1>in my life, making sure that they feel safe around me,

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and going into days in that same way, you know,

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>and above everything, make friends first. Be friends with these girls, like,

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:22.239
<v Speaker 1>show a genuine interest in them. That's what I got

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 1>out of it the most. I want to be a

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:26.760
<v Speaker 1>friend to women in my life first. It's not about

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not all physical, it's not about all about attraction absolutely, Okay. Um,

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:36.839
<v Speaker 1>have there been any cons to being on the show.

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of it's kind of hard to put yourself

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>out there. It's not really a con though, it's just

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of you if it could be if you let

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:49.279
<v Speaker 1>it get to you, you know. But I feel like

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 1>if you lean into yourself and realize that that's your

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>only way to get through this is just to rely

0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:59.439
<v Speaker 1>on yourself and be sure of everything about that is you,

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:03.320
<v Speaker 1>then then you'll you'll be fine. But it's being a private,

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>private person like I am. It was hard for me

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:11.800
<v Speaker 1>to do that, so um, but not exactly a con Okay,

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:14.399
<v Speaker 1>So here's an interesting question. So do you think you're

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>still ready for marriage? M m oh man. You know,

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I am. I was so mentally prepared

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:29.399
<v Speaker 1>in that experience, and it was just like alright, go go, go, go, go,

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:32.319
<v Speaker 1>like yes, proposal, yes, all right, let's go, let's make

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 1>this work. And it wasn't. There wasn't enough time for

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 1>me to just kind of pause and think. And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like what really influenced that too, was the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that we can't talk to our families when we're in

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<v Speaker 1>these pods, you know, so bounce these ideas off of anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just you. So it's like, which is fine, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's all you need, you know, at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day. But it was but you're not scared of marriage, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not of like companionship, being with somebody and putting

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<v Speaker 1>in the work, you know, and being committed in monogamous

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<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff. Yeah, yeah, being committed monogamous is

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you're with the right person, can be

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<v Speaker 1>very very rewarding. For sure, it comes easy. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like when you're with that person and you you have

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<v Speaker 1>like a friendship with them as well, it just comes easy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, I love this person, I care about this

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<v Speaker 1>person so much. It's like you don't even think about

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<v Speaker 1>other people, about cheating, you know what I mean? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of. I mean, don't get me wrong. Your

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<v Speaker 1>your partner will notice another person, you know, like you

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<v Speaker 1>will notice people you know, but at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know that you're in this together and you

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<v Speaker 1>know what the consequences would be if you did go

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<v Speaker 1>with someone else. And at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just poor communication, Like you're not feeling somebody like

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<v Speaker 1>tell them, even if it doesn't mean a breakup. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's better to be honest, you know, A the truth

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<v Speaker 1>goes a long way. So moving on to foods a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, you know, water burger or in and out

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<v Speaker 1>in out. Yeah right, I want something and out so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I love water Burger because they have like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of options. But then again, like I don't really like

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<v Speaker 1>options I like, but just the taste. I would go

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<v Speaker 1>within an out. So I agree with you on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say that I like water Burger.

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<v Speaker 1>The fries are are what's the word over over overrated, overrated, overrated.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as drinks go, tequila or vodka? Oh, tequila? Right? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Tequila or beer? Tequila? Okay? Nice? Yeah, I like tequila

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<v Speaker 1>neat just like you know, throw it back lime, a

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<v Speaker 1>little salt perfected on the rocks or blended on the rocks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, I think it's yeah, the rocks is nice. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so alrighty okay. So would you ever go on a

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<v Speaker 1>show like Love Is Blind Again? I think I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I yeah, I would go on a show like Love

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<v Speaker 1>Is Blind Again. It was Ah, it's uncomfortable, but I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you grow in those uncomfortable situations. So for

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<v Speaker 1>that reason alone, hell yeah, I would do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. I love that. I love that. So what's next? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I just got a new job and I'm working remotely

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm focused on that, and I'm focused on my

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<v Speaker 1>my platform and understanding the responsibility that comes with that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And I want to spread some awareness for

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 1>men who might feel alone or who feel like they

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 1>can't open up their heart and feel those emotions. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just sorry, that's my dryer. It's okay, it's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you wash this us two guys or lady? Should I say?

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome? But yeah, that's next for me, just making

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<v Speaker 1>sure that my platform is a safe space for everybody

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<v Speaker 1>on there and that they could take something and learn

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 1>something from the from there, you know. And I want

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<v Speaker 1>to focus on providing resources for good resources that have

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<v Speaker 1>helped me in my past, like whether it's platforms, podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, that's really what I'm focused on next. And

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<v Speaker 1>just staying positive and and making people in my life

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<v Speaker 1>are prioritized and safe. That's awesome. And you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see you doing that. I can see you

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<v Speaker 1>doing a podcast and talking about everything that we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about here. I've learned so much and it's just so

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<v Speaker 1>like like I said, it's a it's a breath of

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<v Speaker 1>fresh air to see that there are good men out

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<v Speaker 1>there and smart men that do their own laundry, you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>that's awesome and drink tequila and seeing damn it do well.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. Honestly, sal I am. I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>You are for sure one of my favorites on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really connected with you, and thank you. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so glad that you took the time to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>me and come on my podcast. Thank you, thank you,

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>thank you much, and I wish you the best, and

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for talking about these topics. It's so important. Absolutely,

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 1>we've got to spread awareness and knowledge to our people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So that's why I decided to have my

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<v Speaker 1>own podcast, and it's it's great to have people like

0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:31.399
<v Speaker 1>you on and share your your your socials. Please for

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:35.280
<v Speaker 1>everyone that's listening. Oh sure, you can find me on

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Instagram at Salvadior zero eight and you could find me

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<v Speaker 1>on TikTok under that same user name. Um. What other

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 1>social do I have? Do you have? Twitter? Facebook? My Space?

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 1>My Space? What does my space? You got my Space? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have. I don't think I have anything else

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<v Speaker 1>can yet? When no worries, you guys can find them

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<v Speaker 1>there these and gentlemen, men that want some advice, okay

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 1>that are ready to step up their game, and ladies,

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<v Speaker 1>um if you just want to tell him nice things

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, you know. And as for me, as usual,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, I always leave you with a motivational quote,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have one for you. Let me go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and read it listens a little longer. But love is

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<v Speaker 1>such a powerful force. It's there for everyone to embrace,

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 1>that kind of unconditional love for all of humankind. That

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<v Speaker 1>is the kind of love that impels people to go

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<v Speaker 1>into the community and try to change conditions, for others

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<v Speaker 1>to take risks for what they believe in. That's one.

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<v Speaker 1>And then love has nothing to do with what you

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<v Speaker 1>are expecting to get, only with what you are expecting

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<v Speaker 1>to give, which is everything. Hopefully those quotes get to

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 1>your guys heart again. I hope you learned a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about love and men and women and just offen

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