1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: What made you say yes to the show. When I 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: stumbled upon this opportunity, I was like, this is something 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: where they're filtering out so many people, such an intense process. 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: Who is your favorite cast member on the show. My 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: favorite cast member on the show is have your ex broken? 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: Titchu up? You know they probably did. Uh. I've got 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: a few more messages than you. I bet you've got 8 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: a lot of girls slid from your Dan's boy. Hi. Everyone, 9 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to have you here with me today. 10 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: As always, thank you so much for joining me. I'm 11 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: your host Cheeky's and today is going to be a 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: pretty exciting episode. That's because today's guest is a cast 13 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: member from the popular Netflix reality show Love Is Blind. Guys, 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: I've watched the entire show and I've enjoyed every single 15 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: minute of it. I'm not even joking. So I'm super 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: excited to talk to today's guest about a bunch of 17 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: different topics. So let's get right into it. This is 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: cheek Ease and Chill. Alright, So it's promised. I'm sitting 19 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: here with the one and only sell the Door Perez. 20 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: You know him as Seal, and as I mentioned earlier, 21 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: he is a start on the reality show Love Is 22 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: Blind season two. If you guys haven't seen it yet, 23 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: you guys can binge the entire season on Netflix now, 24 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you it's a must watch. So sal 25 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. How are you? Thank you? I 26 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: am really there. You know, it's been a little bit 27 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: different since the show ended. But I'm great, I'm great, 28 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: and I yeah, I'm excited to be here. Thank you 29 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: so much. I'm so excited to talk to you. And okay, 30 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: now let let me let's just get right into it. 31 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: You said that it's been a little different since, like 32 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: the show ended. Why in what way? Well, just for 33 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: off the bat, I'm such a private person, like to 34 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: begin with, so just seeing people like giving me such 35 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: so much support and being stopped like in random situations 36 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: in my life has been an adjustment. But you know, 37 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: people are so nice here and they're so considerate. They're like, 38 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: is this okay? Can I can I talk to you 39 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: a little man? How cute? Where do you live? I 40 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: live in a wicker Park in Chicago, Illinois. Oh nice, Okay, 41 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: I heard somewhere. You're from El Paso? Is that correct? Yes, 42 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: that's always home for me. El Paso, Texas. I was 43 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: not born there, but I was raised there so since 44 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: I was two years old, and then eventually made them 45 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: move over to Chicago. Okay, so let's get into love 46 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: is Blind. So you say that you're a very you know, 47 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: a reserved or private person. What made you say yes 48 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: to the show, to this experiment? Because you're you're in 49 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 1: your early thirties, right, So what made you feel like, Okay, 50 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the sleep of faith? You know, originally 51 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: I I thought it would be really fun to try it. 52 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: To be completely honest, I was tired of the apps. 53 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: I had no real luck there. I feel like I 54 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: got a lot of judgment on those apps when I 55 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: was on there. And you know, it's so easy to 56 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: swipe on somebody if if whatever, if they have just 57 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: not the right picture or something like that, then it's 58 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: easy to just like, all right, next person, you know 59 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: what I mean. So when I stumbled upon this opportunity, 60 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I mean, this is something where 61 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: they're filtering out so many people. This is such an 62 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: intense process. It's backed by research, it's backed by people 63 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: who are like, this is supposed to work. I don't 64 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: know how much I could say, but there were so 65 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: many questions I had to answer before actually being accepted 66 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: into this. So just right off the bat, I was like, 67 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: all right, if all of these people are going through this, 68 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: I want to see if this actually works. So I 69 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to step out of my comfort 70 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: zone a little bit. And you know, even though I 71 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: am more of a private person, I was just like, 72 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: I want to put it out there. Let's see this 73 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: could be an opportunity for growth. Then maybe I end 74 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: up marrying at the end of it. Well that's good though. 75 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: You're open. You're open to the idea. And did you 76 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: really feel like, okay, if I meet that girl, like 77 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: I'm ready to get married, like you're ready to take 78 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: that step. I definitely felt like I was ready to 79 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: find my person absolutely, yeah. Yeah, But it was I 80 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: had to go into it with an open mind and 81 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: open heart and be just very open to the experience. 82 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: You know, I knew that going I was just like, 83 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go hard, I'm gonna be emotional, I'm 84 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: gonna be vulnerable, I'm gonna be open with these people 85 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: and just put my heart on the line. And that's 86 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: exactly what I did, so you did, and I loved you. 87 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I'm like, honestly, I watched it, 88 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: like I got stuck on the show, and you really 89 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: stood out to me because of that. I was like, 90 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: he looks like a genuine person, Like he is in 91 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: touch with his emotions, he's very honest, he knows what 92 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: he wants because you're very young, and usually men like 93 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: aren't ready you know, quote unquote, like until they're like 94 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: their mid thirties, late thirties. But like, I think because 95 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: of your family, and I'm telling I feel like I 96 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: know you right, but I feel like I met your 97 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: sisters on the show. And then I'm like, he comes 98 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: from a good traditional family, it looks like, and he 99 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: has a good head on his shoulders. So I was like, dude, 100 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: if this girl gets your ship together, Mallory, okay, this 101 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: is my show, obviously, whatever I want, guys, Okay. So 102 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: I was like, if she gets her ship together, she's 103 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: gonna take a really good man. And then we'll talk 104 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: about that a little later. But that's just my take 105 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: from the show. So I admire that that you took 106 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: that leap of faith and you were open to that 107 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: experience and that experiment because I'm sure it was scary. 108 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was, but I think it's so 109 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: badass because I was very interested. I'm like, yeah, like 110 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: this is another way, a more genuine fear way to 111 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: meet someone. Yeah, and it thinks I feel like there 112 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: you get frozen into indecision when you have too many choices, 113 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: and I feel like that's what these apps today are 114 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: geared towards. It's just giving you so many you know, 115 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: and you never take the time to get to know 116 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: somebody sincerely, you know. And then so this experience was 117 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: so intense, cheeky, like it was just that was our 118 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: job seven. You know. It's just like finding the person 119 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: that you connect with that you want to spend the 120 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: rest of your life with. And when you put that 121 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: much pressure on one task, like you could really get 122 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: far in that in that goal, you know, you could 123 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: really just because that's your main focus. Yeah. Yeah, And 124 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: it was was it for two weeks that you guys 125 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: were in the pods? Um, technically it was like ten 126 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: days of pod dating. The whole experience I think took 127 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: about three weeks, just because we would take breaks or 128 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: we weren't like going into the pods every day. Yeah, 129 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: I kind of figured and that was like one of 130 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: my questions because I mean, I come from like reality TV, 131 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: so I just know that even when they would do 132 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: like the edits or like they would cut certain things, 133 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, they're just creating drama. Then 134 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: you watch it and then you're like, Okay, it wasn't 135 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: that bad, you know, But because I know how it works, 136 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: I was a wondering. I'm like, I wonder if they 137 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: were there straight for two weeks or did they take 138 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: like you said, breaks in between. Um, you know, it's television, guys, 139 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: it's television. Certain magic has to happen dates. But don't 140 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: get me wrong, Like some days it was harder to 141 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: go on those dates because sometimes like my longest date 142 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 1: was maybe two and a half hours, three hours inside 143 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: of a pod with oh yeah, and you you just 144 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: sit there and it's okay to be bored with your person, 145 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, Like, but we would just sitting there and talk, 146 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: we just hang out. And sometimes these didn't make it 147 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: on there. Like on some other dates, I would pass 148 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: out a little bit. I was gonna ask, I think, 149 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: did you ever take naps? Dude? Yeah? They give you 150 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: really comfortable love his blind blankets, and so I was nice. 151 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: Well I remember one time, but I won't say who 152 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: I was on the date with, but yeah, I came 153 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: a little bit. And then you wake up and you're like, oh, Dane, yeah, yeah, 154 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: you're so respectful. That's so nice of you not to 155 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: say who it was, because you've had two connections, right too, 156 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: strong connections, am I am? I correct? You know for me, 157 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: I had I had three. There were actually deep to 158 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: and I really did connect pretty closely towards the end 159 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: of it, but then we fizzled out at the end 160 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: when we were like top three people, Um, we have 161 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: pettled out by then. But towards the end, I was 162 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: pretty set on Mallory, like it was just like Mallory 163 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: or nobody. And the other two people that were in 164 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: my top three understood that. I think they felt it 165 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: was just like people talk, you know. I was talking 166 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: to the guys and the girls were talking to the girls, 167 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, and so we kind of get around. Yeah, 168 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: and it got around, and and we never Mallory and 169 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: I were never territorial about each other. It was just 170 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: kind of like we understood that, hey, we have a 171 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: strong connection here. And we're having fun with each other 172 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: and that's it, you know, like there was no real 173 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: poeticition for that, you know. So yeah, another one of 174 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: my favorites is Deep Deep. I felt like she was 175 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: just a very genuine, great person and I was so 176 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: proud of her decision to be honest, I was like, 177 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, I was so happy at her, Natalie, 178 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: honestly because I just felt like, sorry, guys, spoiler alert 179 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: here if you guys haven't watched the show, but go 180 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: watch it. You'll see what I'm talking about. But Natalie, 181 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: I love. She's such a genuine person too, I feel, 182 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: I mean, from what I could see. But yeah, Deep 183 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: D was awesome. And now that we're talking about Mallory, 184 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: so let me take a deep breath, guys, she really 185 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: upset me at the end. Okay, I'm not I'm not 186 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: talking crap about nobody. It's just once you see the show, 187 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: it just but you know what, I respect your decision 188 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: like lack in, but I just felt like you guys 189 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: did have a connection in the pod. You guys were 190 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: like vibing and you could tell like how her eyes 191 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: would just light up when you know, you guys would 192 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: talk and then I don't know what the heck happened. 193 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: What do you think happened? Honestly, He's like, there was 194 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: stuff that did happen off camera. We we we were 195 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: just not seeing eye together. And I take very seriously, 196 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: like when somebody hears hears me out well, and when 197 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: I do want us to listen to you and to 198 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: repeat what you are saying to me so that you 199 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: know that I am listening to You're good guy. Sorry, okay, sorry. 200 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: Communication is so important to me. That's how I'm like, 201 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: it's true to everybody. It should be that it's the 202 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: kindest and most considerate thing you could do for somebody 203 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: is sincerely listened to them actively and show them that 204 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: you are with your body with everything you know. And uh, 205 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: I looked out for that, I really do. And I 206 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: felt that when we were having discussions and arguments, I 207 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: found that we would have to have them multiple times, 208 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,599 Speaker 1: and I would start getting frustrated and unheard and I 209 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: would just be like, are you I would tell her, like, 210 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: are you seriously asking me this again? Do you want 211 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: me to explain myself again and discuss what I just 212 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: explained like two minutes ago? Like it was just it 213 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: was frustrating and yeah, because sometimes I think what we 214 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: tend to do and I've learned this the hard way 215 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: in relationships is we listen to react and not listen 216 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: to understand. And when you're in a relationship trying to 217 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: make something work, you need to really give that person 218 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: your undivided attention and really show them I'm getting it, 219 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: and if I don't understand, I'm gonna ask you. But 220 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: sometimes it's like I want to listen to just like 221 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: bark back at you, you know what I mean, And well, yeah, 222 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna ask you, because I'm sure 223 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: a lot of things did happen off camera that we 224 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: weren't able to see, because you were pretty firm in 225 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: your decision, Like I felt like it was like, from 226 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: one moment to another, like you were really into it. 227 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: And then I was like, something must have happened behind 228 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: the cameras because you just completely were like I'm not 229 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: feeling this at all anymore. And I was really surprised 230 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: at the altar with your with your response, but I 231 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: was also very proud. I was also very happy because 232 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: I just felt like, as a woman, you're watching and 233 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't think she's the one I didn't 234 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: feel it. I was like, I don't think she's ready. 235 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: I think she wants to be ready and she's in 236 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: love with the idea of being in love, but I 237 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: don't know if she's absolutely ready. That's just my personal opinion. Guys, 238 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: everyone that's listening, like, I'm not talking bad about Mary. 239 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: I think we all have our process and we have 240 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: to respect that. But from what I got, I was like, 241 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're on the same frequency, you 242 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, No, I totally understand and 243 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. And there were things that continue 244 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: to happen off of the actual our actual storyline where 245 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: I was just like, I wanted to be sincere to 246 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: the experience case. I'm gonna be completely up with you. 247 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to still give it a shot because I'm like, 248 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: you know what, maybe I could have a change of heart, 249 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll feel differently when I'm there at the altar. 250 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: And that's why I didn't want to decide until I 251 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: was there, Like I made a decision, I promised myself. 252 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: I was like, for this last week, I don't want 253 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: anybody to know my decision because I haven't made it, 254 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: yet I want to decide it there at the altar, 255 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: and so I stuck to that. I didn't even tell 256 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: my family. My family was worried. They were just like, 257 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: what is he gonna say on the day of the wedding? 258 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: No way, that was my question, like I did. So 259 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: no one knew, You're not even your sisters, no one knew. Yeah, 260 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: and they even on the day of like you'll see 261 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: it if you watch it. My all of my siblings 262 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: were holding hands like at the at my wedding because 263 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: they just had no idea if I was actually going 264 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: to say yes or if I was gonna say no. 265 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: You know, but man, but regardless, like they were just 266 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: being very supportive of me. And Malory was not my person. No, 267 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: she wasn't, and she lost a good guy in my 268 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: personal opinion, you know me and my opinions. But okay, 269 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: so do you feel comfortable talking about why when you 270 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: got to the altar you said no, like besides the 271 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: communication stuff or you just weren't. You don't have to 272 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: give us details, but just you know, I'm wondering there 273 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: was one moment that I knew, like, okay, as far 274 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: as I'm concerned right now, this is what my answer 275 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: is going to be. But I'm going to continue going 276 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: on this journey with you. But this is what I 277 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: already know. I'm gonna say, this is what I feel 278 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm leaning towards already, but I'm gonna still give us 279 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: a shot. I don't know if I can say what happened, 280 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: because that's going to come out later. Oh I see, Okay, Yeah, 281 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, don't worry. Probably wouldn't like that. You're 282 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: gonna give me an exclusive out here, so they're gonna 283 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: be I'll be watching that. It revolved around just like 284 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: this is what happens in relationships. I feel like it's 285 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: nobody's fault. I feel like at the end of the day, 286 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: we're just trying to make it work between us. We're 287 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: trying to see if we can have a good relationship 288 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: between two people, and it takes two to do that. 289 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure that I had some things that maybe about 290 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: Mallory was looking for that I didn't provide for her. 291 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: But I'm just voicing the things that I felt weren't 292 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: there for me, And a lot of that was just 293 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: the repetitive arguments that we kept having um and just 294 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: like the lack of communication and connection that we kept 295 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: feeling and it was just we all have our work 296 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: to do ticks, like we all have our trounic that 297 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: we have to go through that we have to process. 298 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: I it didn't work, and it didn't work for us, 299 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: and there was there was things that got in the way, 300 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: both on both sides that we just I can't blame 301 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: her for it because I've also been through stuff like 302 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: that before. You know, like I have gotten an upset 303 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: about things, and I'm talking about like previous relationships too, 304 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: Like I've messed up. I know what it is to 305 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: gas light people, and I've done that before to my girlfriends. 306 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: I'll be very sincere about that because I was I 307 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: used to be insecure about myself and I used to 308 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: have work that I needed to do. But I I 309 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: went to therapy and I did my work. I became 310 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: more aware of like the emotions I was feeling because 311 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: I knew that I couldn't love somebody. I couldn't love 312 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: somebody because I didn't love myself. See, and that's when 313 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: you know that you have healed that or you're on 314 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: that path of healing. Because I think it's it's a 315 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: lifetime thing, you know what I mean, like re evolved 316 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: and we grow and we change. But the fact that 317 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: you can sit here and admit, hey, I used to 318 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: do this. These were my toxic traits. And I feel 319 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: like you're supposed to learn from every relationship and grow 320 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: from it and say, Okay, what am I going to 321 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: do different in my next relationship? Not just blame the 322 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: other person all the time, but also say hey, yes, 323 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: I can also do certain things differently. So that's that's 324 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: awesome of you. Before we move on, I'm very curious, 325 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: what is your sign? Yes? Yes, I uh? I am 326 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: in ferries with a Leo rising ana Taurus moon. Okay, perfect, Okay, Well, 327 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: my brother Johnny is really good at like all the 328 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: chart stuff. The thing is is that you're super connected 329 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: with your feelings and I like that. I think that 330 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: that was awesome because you were on television and you 331 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: didn't care. You're like, You're like, I'm here to experience 332 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: this and I'm not gonna put up a front like, um, homeboy, 333 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: did what deep? This guy? What's his name? Don't even 334 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god, shape yes do shake. I could not 335 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: with with my life with him. I'm just like shake, 336 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: just chill out like I think he kind of tried, 337 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: but it's just there's no way. But you, on the 338 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: other hand, we're very connected to like your emotions, and 339 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: you had no problem with shedding a tear two if 340 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: need be. And that's not something that we see a lot, 341 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: especially in our culture, you know. I I wish that 342 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: it wasn't such a rare thing. I wish that it 343 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: was just a human thing for for men to accept 344 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: because we wear so much armor around that. And I 345 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: get emotional talking about this because even after the show, 346 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: one of my cousins that we don't really spend a 347 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: lot of time together, we didn't really get to know 348 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: each other a lot, but he reached out to me 349 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: after the show and he was like, cousin, like, I 350 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: don't I never met you man, Like, I never felt 351 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: like I got to know you that way. But just 352 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: seeing you and seeing you get emotional like that on 353 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: screen and not carrying like it was it was very gosh, 354 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. No, you're fine, or those you're ex 355 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: hitting you up? Have your ex growfriend hit you up? 356 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: You know they probably did. Uh, I've got a few 357 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: more messages than usual. I bet you've got a lot 358 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: of girls sliding your d ms. Boy, they're all beautiful 359 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: and I'll eventually get positive messages. That's all. That's all good, good, 360 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: But no, Yeah, it just just knowing that I reached 361 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: at least one man or a few men that that 362 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: felt like they couldn't express that side of themselves, then 363 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: mission accomplished. Honestly, chickies, But I really feel like that 364 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: needs to be more of a more normalized and it 365 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: shouldn't be a rare thing. And I think that men's 366 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: specifically need to be the ones to show that we've 367 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: heard it enough from everyone else. I feel like men 368 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: need to step up and and show that vulnerability on screen. 369 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: Men who have platforms me to show that because because 370 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: guys are depressed, men are depressed, and it's a there's 371 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: a lot of suicide with with with men. You like 372 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: that that they feel lonely, they feel lost, and it's 373 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: because if you don't have that sensitivity and you don't 374 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: take off that armor, you lack all connections with people. Yeah, 375 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: for sure, and you build up this tension you know 376 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: what I mean, within you and you're not releasing. You 377 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: need to release, like I always say, like I'll cry, 378 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: like I'm a crier, and I just feel like it 379 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: just cleanses my soul and I feel so much better afterwards. 380 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: Imagine men in our culture that we're like and you're 381 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: not supposed to cry, and you've gotta be a macho 382 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: and this and that. It's like, dude, like, do you 383 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: understand what you're doing to these to these men, like 384 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: you're not allowing them to express themselves, and what happens 385 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: It turns into depression, anxiety, anger. And this is why 386 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: I think it was great that you, being like the 387 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: age that you are, being Latino, being on this on 388 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: this very famous show, Love his Mind, that you were 389 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: able to just say, hey, like I'm connected with my Like, 390 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that. Like I just like if 391 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: anything that made you sexier, that made you like more attractive. 392 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: I feel for women, I think that that's like I'm like, damn, 393 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: Like that's beautiful. I'm sure a lot of women feel 394 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: like that. So that's why I wanted to ask you, 395 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 1: because I'm like, I'm glad that you're saying it. I 396 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: think it should be more normalized for sure. So all guys, 397 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: you heard it here first. Crying, Yes, crying is sexy, Okay, 398 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: it makes a girl horny and I'm just skardy. Sorry sorry, okay, 399 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: So anyway, but to kind of wrap that whole thing up, though, 400 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: like I just want to say, like I even heard, 401 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: because I like, I love listening to podcasts that talk 402 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: about that too, and I'm so glad that you're this 403 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: up to Chicky's. There's a really good one, um, I 404 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: followed Justin Baldoni, the one from Jane the Virgin, and 405 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: he talks about literal tears like they're stress hormone in 406 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: your tears when you ride. There are literally stress hormones 407 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: in your tears. There it is. That's freaking awesome. I'm 408 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: gonna listen to it because I've always felt that. I'm like, 409 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: it's a way of releasing toxins from your body, like 410 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: you haven't built up in your chest. And for so 411 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: long I would have just hold it in, and I 412 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: was in a really bad relationship and I hold it in. 413 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to cry. I don't know 414 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: because then he doesn't, like, you know, whatever, it made 415 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: the case maybe, but then I would just go outside 416 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: and just yell and cry, and I feel like, oh 417 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: I feel better now, And then now I know it's 418 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: like it's releasing hormones. That's crazy, that's awesome, that is 419 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: so cool. Thank you for sharing that. See I was right. 420 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: I was right. So tell me do you feel that 421 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: love is Blind taught you or made you really realize 422 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: what you want and don't want in your wife? You know? 423 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: I do feel very lucky to have been a part 424 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: of such an experience because if you're looking at it 425 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: from a numbers perspective, like there's only been the thirty 426 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: of us that went through it of this season and 427 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: then the thirty others that went through it on the 428 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: first season, and to just think about it in that way, 429 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: like and going through the process because there was the pods. 430 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: I think the pods were really the place where I 431 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: felt that I grew and I I had never gone 432 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: so in depth as far as like what's the want 433 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: for me and what's the need in my partner? You know, 434 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: like what is important to me? What do I need 435 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: to talk about as far as finances goes as kids go? Um, 436 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: what are we going to teach our kids? You know? 437 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: Like do I want kids? You know? And so I 438 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: gave so much thought to all of this throughout the 439 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: whole process that now I just feel like dating is 440 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: so much easier because I'm so much more open and 441 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: ready to ask those questions. It was kind of like 442 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: a no bullshit, a no bullshit experience. It It taught 443 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: you had to spot all of it and just rip 444 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: all of that out and just get down to the 445 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: nitty gritty, you know what I mean for sure? I 446 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: mean I really believe like I was, like, if I 447 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: were single and if I could be on a show 448 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: like that, I probably would because I think, like you said, 449 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: like You're going to learn so much about yourself during 450 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: this time and about just humans in general. And I 451 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: was very curious too, because I know you had that 452 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 1: collection with Mallory with mel But did you did you 453 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: when you saw her? Like did you really you were 454 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: in those pots thinking I don't care what this person 455 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: looks like, I really don't care, Like you were just 456 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: completely engrossed in getting to know that person from her heart, 457 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: like in her mind, and when you saw her in person, 458 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: did you did it change? Like did you feel like, 459 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: oh she's beautiful? Or did you did anything change? No? 460 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: When I saw her in person, you know, well, leading 461 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: up to the whole thing, like I I was not 462 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: worried at all. In fact, I wanted to stay true 463 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: to the experience. There were some other people that were 464 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: like kind of getting hints about how the person looked, 465 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: but I didn't want any of that at all. I 466 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: just I was I just wanted to be surprised. So 467 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: when I first saw her, there was so much that 468 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: I had to process. I feel like my body was 469 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: reacting to to Mallory too, and I was just like, 470 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm trying to soak this person up 471 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: and and try to put it was so interesting to 472 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: see her mouth and move and hear her voice come 473 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: out of her, and I was just like it was 474 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: like shock, nerves, excitement, you know. And I'm sure that 475 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: she was going through the same thing. But it was 476 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: just kind of like, Okay, now let's build up our 477 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: physical relationship. It was like another step. Yeah, And but 478 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: she's she's extremely beautiful, and I was super excited to 479 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: get to know her, and and I knew that no, 480 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: no matter what, that we were just gonna that it 481 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: was just the next step. Like you said, like the 482 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: physical was just going to be the next step. So yeah, 483 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: that little like like a level of like to add 484 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: to the excitement, you know, what I mean because yeah, 485 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: I think she's beautiful. I think she's very attractive, very 486 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: attractive girl. I love the way she dresses her hair 487 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: and everything. Somebody won't eat that. Um. And you know 488 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: at the reunion, I wat your reunion, right, I'm a fan, guys. 489 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: I was your reunion and I was very freaking like 490 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: I was like like this, literally, I was sitting on 491 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: the couch and I started like clapping when you when 492 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: you came out, and you just were very straightforward because 493 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: you're very like respectful type of guy and you were 494 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: very respectful. But like I was like, damn, he has 495 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: like a backbone. He is not here to funk around. 496 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,239 Speaker 1: He's here to get answers. And I thought that was 497 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: really like it puts you like on another level again 498 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: because I'm like, dude, he's a sensitive guy. He's in 499 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: tune with his emotions, but then he can also like 500 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: stand his own. So I wanted to like tell you 501 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: that because I thought that was a really beautiful moment 502 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: and how you connected with deep T and you were 503 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: just defended her there. I was like, oh heck, yeah. 504 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: I was like that's amazing, Oh my gosh, And like 505 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: they I probably shouldn't say this, but they did make 506 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: Shake look better her than than what what he actually was. 507 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: No way I was going to ask. Yeah, he was 508 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: a total douche. Dude, he was a douche. And I 509 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: because I love Deep t I truly do. She's she's 510 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: such a good person inside and out. I feel. I 511 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: even told her after everything was over, I'm like, Deep, 512 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,959 Speaker 1: you are literally going to be the queen of everything 513 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: when you when all of this ends, because of how 514 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: bad this person was too and because you're such a 515 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: good person, the fact that he was so bad to 516 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: you is just gonna you're your Yeah, definitely. And she 517 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: sat there so poised and just wasn't she just like, 518 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to sit here in my dress and look 519 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: cute and go ahead, you look like an idiot. So 520 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 1: I just loved it to the to the end. She 521 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: just kept her class, and I'm like, she's going to 522 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: get a good man out of this. I hope she does, 523 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: because I kill I know he needs some serious I 524 00:26:54,920 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: don't know what, but so sal tell us what comes 525 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: after love is blind? After love is blind? I just 526 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, I want a date. I wanna 527 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: open up that door and and and no longer do apps. 528 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: I feel like it's important for me maybe to set 529 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: up a date or two whatever, um, but it's more 530 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: authentic to me to meet somebody in personnel. That's how 531 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: I am going into this. And honestly, like when I 532 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: when I did go on dates after the show, it 533 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: was more so with like better questions. I just I 534 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: was so interested in the person because it was just like, hey, 535 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: let's let's figure this out. Let's see if we actually 536 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: want this. It was so much more easier for me 537 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: to build rapport with somebody because I so like I 538 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: was just a d pent in as far as like, 539 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: let's figure this out, let's day, let's have fun, you know, 540 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: let's let's ask the meaningful questions if that's where we 541 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: want to want this to go and just be revolve 542 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: around honesty, you know, and and good communication and if 543 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: it's if it's casual with somebody, like it's whatever, it's casually, 544 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: you know, but you community had it and you can 545 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: well and it's all consensual. And I feel and I 546 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: feel like, there's, uh, it's really important to have that. 547 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: I guess if I could summarize it at all, what 548 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: I learned the most coming out of this experience is 549 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: how to create a safe space for the women in 550 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: my life. Guys. Oh my gosh, dude, that's awesome. I'm 551 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: your fan, Dude, I'm fed. I want all the guys 552 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: that to listen to this, and it's probably like mainly women, 553 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: but they're probably gonna be like trying to find you. 554 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: But dude, like, yes, yes, you remind me a lot 555 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: of my boyfriend. The way that you speak and the 556 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: way that you express yourself and you're connected, like he 557 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: goes to therapy, Like he's all about making me feel 558 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: safe and I never had that and he's twenty nine, okay, 559 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,479 Speaker 1: so like I know that there are good guys out 560 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: there and he's just it's like when you're ready and 561 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: you know what you want in life and you've gone 562 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: through things and you do what you gotta do, like therapy, life, coaching, mentorship, 563 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: whatever it is, it really does help you, guys. It 564 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: helps the healing process and like sell, So that's awesome 565 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: and the bar is so low for men. It really 566 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: is like if you go to therapy, like they will 567 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: make a parade for you, like good for you, the 568 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: word you know, and it's it's interesting. I feel also 569 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: coming out of this is just understanding like the fact 570 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: that you can only only love somebody as much as 571 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: you love yourself, and I feel like that became more 572 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: evident to me too, and just letting someone in that 573 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: deeply is hard if you if you haven't done that 574 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: work for yourself, you know, that's where insecurities come in, 575 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: because you just haven't done that work. Definitely, you just 576 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: haven't done it, and no one can do it for you. 577 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: No one can. That's a choice that you have to make. 578 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: And whether it's for the person that's in your life 579 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: now or the person that's going to come, it's like, 580 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: if you don't do that work, they're just those things 581 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: are just going to come back and hunt you in 582 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: every single relationships. It's like it's an your choice. You 583 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: gotta really get in there and do the work. Guys. 584 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean we all have them. I have, you know 585 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: what you call those those demons from my past from 586 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: my childhood that I have to constantly go to therapy 587 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: and make sure I keep them in place and I 588 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: keep them suppressed and I just keep growing mentally, emotionally 589 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: and in every way. So it's it's not like, oh, 590 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: you go to therapy. I'm bad, I need help. I'm broken. No, 591 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: like I think we all are kind of a little 592 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: bit broken. We need to be kind of like put 593 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: back together. It's life. It brings us closer together. And 594 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: when you when you understand that that we're all going 595 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: through something. But yes, like you said, it's so good 596 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: to see that you're not jaded. You know what I mean. 597 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: You're still open, you're still willing, You're still like you know, 598 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: because but you were there for all the right reasons. 599 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: So I think that's why you have, like I said earlier, 600 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: very good head on your shoulders. I can tell from 601 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: the like since I watched the show. So it's so 602 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: nice to be able to speak to you and you know, 603 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: talk about all these things. Now that we're kind of 604 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: like talking, what about we do some singing? Won't you 605 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: sing for us? Was not ready for it, Like I 606 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: wasn't prepared for this. I don't even know what I 607 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: would begin to sing. I am saying just anything anything 608 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: like a little maybe you even sing on the on 609 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: the show. Oh you know, let me see what a 610 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: terrible Joe. You're so cute. Thank you so much, Yeah, 611 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you sleeper doing that. Okay, So how 612 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: about now we move on to like a Q and name? 613 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: Are you game for that or what I'm getting? Yeah? 614 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 1: Like little fire questions will some some So here we go. 615 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: Who is your favorite cast member on the show? My 616 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: favorite cast member on the show is, honestly, I have 617 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: to say Danielle. Yeah, she's a sweetheart. Danielle is such 618 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: a sweetheart, I even all off camera and everything, Like, 619 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: I know she's gone through a lot, and I know 620 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: that she she got some heat for being like, um 621 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: so vulnerable on camera, you know, but I feel like 622 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: I feel like inside she she's she's very real and 623 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: she's solid. Yeah, she's she's a great and her and 624 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: deep tea. Yes. Okay, So who is your least favorite 625 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: cast member? Do I even have to say? I know, 626 00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: shake fucking yeah, you know, like and look, I'm not 627 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: going to talk bad, but I feel like this goes 628 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: for everybody like you. You have to you have to 629 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: develop your empathy. You have to develop your empathy for 630 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: people and know that what you say have consequences. That's 631 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say. What's one thing you think 632 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: the show got wrong about you? Um? I don't sing 633 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: all the time. I think for myself a little bit, 634 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: you know, but I think that's one thing they got 635 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: wrong about me. But you know, I pulled out my 636 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: youth once and after that it was just like forget it, 637 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: like we need more youth, we need more youth. That 638 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: was production how they're like, do it more and more. 639 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: I know how reality is, so it's probably yeah, I 640 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: get it. Okay, So how has the show changed your 641 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: perception on dating? You know, if I could summarize it 642 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: like we were saying earlier, chicky, is they really helped 643 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: me just check on the women in my life and 644 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: going in with that same energy, checking in the women 645 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: in my life, making sure that they feel safe around me, 646 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: and going into days in that same way, you know, 647 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: and above everything, make friends first. Be friends with these girls, like, 648 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: show a genuine interest in them. That's what I got 649 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: out of it the most. I want to be a 650 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: friend to women in my life first. It's not about 651 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: it's not all physical, it's not about all about attraction absolutely, Okay. Um, 652 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: have there been any cons to being on the show. 653 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: It's kind of it's kind of hard to put yourself 654 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: out there. It's not really a con though, it's just 655 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: kind of you if it could be if you let 656 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: it get to you, you know. But I feel like 657 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: if you lean into yourself and realize that that's your 658 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: only way to get through this is just to rely 659 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 1: on yourself and be sure of everything about that is you, 660 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: then then you'll you'll be fine. But it's being a private, 661 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: private person like I am. It was hard for me 662 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: to do that, so um, but not exactly a con Okay, 663 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 1: So here's an interesting question. So do you think you're 664 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: still ready for marriage? M m oh man. You know, 665 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: I don't think I am. I was so mentally prepared 666 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: in that experience, and it was just like alright, go go, go, go, go, 667 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: like yes, proposal, yes, all right, let's go, let's make 668 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: this work. And it wasn't. There wasn't enough time for 669 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: me to just kind of pause and think. And I 670 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: feel like what really influenced that too, was the fact 671 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: that we can't talk to our families when we're in 672 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 1: these pods, you know, so bounce these ideas off of anybody. 673 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: It's just you. So it's like, which is fine, Like 674 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: it's all you need, you know, at the end of 675 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: the day. But it was but you're not scared of marriage, right, Yeah, 676 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm not of like companionship, being with somebody and putting 677 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: in the work, you know, and being committed in monogamous 678 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Yeah, yeah, being committed monogamous is 679 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: I think if you're with the right person, can be 680 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: very very rewarding. For sure, it comes easy. I feel 681 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: like when you're with that person and you you have 682 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: like a friendship with them as well, it just comes easy. 683 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: It's like, I love this person, I care about this 684 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: person so much. It's like you don't even think about 685 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: other people, about cheating, you know what I mean? Yeah, 686 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: you kind of. I mean, don't get me wrong. Your 687 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: your partner will notice another person, you know, like you 688 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: will notice people you know, but at the same time, 689 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: like you know that you're in this together and you 690 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: know what the consequences would be if you did go 691 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: with someone else. And at the end of the day, 692 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: it's just poor communication, Like you're not feeling somebody like 693 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: tell them, even if it doesn't mean a breakup. Yeah, 694 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: it's better to be honest, you know, A the truth 695 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: goes a long way. So moving on to foods a 696 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: little bit, you know, water burger or in and out 697 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: in out. Yeah right, I want something and out so bad. 698 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: I love water Burger because they have like a lot 699 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: of options. But then again, like I don't really like 700 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: options I like, but just the taste. I would go 701 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: within an out. So I agree with you on that one. 702 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say that I like water Burger. 703 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: The fries are are what's the word over over overrated, overrated, overrated. 704 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: As far as drinks go, tequila or vodka? Oh, tequila? Right? Okay? 705 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 1: Tequila or beer? Tequila? Okay? Nice? Yeah, I like tequila 706 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: neat just like you know, throw it back lime, a 707 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 1: little salt perfected on the rocks or blended on the rocks. 708 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: Yeah right, I think it's yeah, the rocks is nice. Okay, okay, 709 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: so alrighty okay. So would you ever go on a 710 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: show like Love Is Blind Again? I think I would. 711 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: I yeah, I would go on a show like Love 712 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: Is Blind Again. It was Ah, it's uncomfortable, but I 713 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: feel like you grow in those uncomfortable situations. So for 714 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: that reason alone, hell yeah, I would do it again. 715 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: That's awesome. I love that. I love that. So what's next? Um, 716 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: I just got a new job and I'm working remotely 717 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: so I'm focused on that, and I'm focused on my 718 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: my platform and understanding the responsibility that comes with that, 719 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: you know. And I want to spread some awareness for 720 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: men who might feel alone or who feel like they 721 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: can't open up their heart and feel those emotions. You know. 722 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: So I just sorry, that's my dryer. It's okay, it's okay, 723 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: you wash this us two guys or lady? Should I say? 724 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 1: That's awesome? But yeah, that's next for me, just making 725 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 1: sure that my platform is a safe space for everybody 726 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 1: on there and that they could take something and learn 727 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: something from the from there, you know. And I want 728 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: to focus on providing resources for good resources that have 729 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: helped me in my past, like whether it's platforms, podcasts, 730 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: and yeah, that's really what I'm focused on next. And 731 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: just staying positive and and making people in my life 732 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: are prioritized and safe. That's awesome. And you know what, 733 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: I can see you doing that. I can see you 734 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: doing a podcast and talking about everything that we've talked 735 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: about here. I've learned so much and it's just so 736 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: like like I said, it's a it's a breath of 737 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: fresh air to see that there are good men out 738 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: there and smart men that do their own laundry, you guys, 739 00:39:50,160 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: that's awesome and drink tequila and seeing damn it do well. 740 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Honestly, sal I am. I'm excited. 741 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,240 Speaker 1: You are for sure one of my favorites on the show, 742 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: and I really connected with you, and thank you. I'm 743 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: so glad that you took the time to talk to 744 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: me and come on my podcast. Thank you, thank you, 745 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: thank you much, and I wish you the best, and 746 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: thank you for talking about these topics. It's so important. Absolutely, 747 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: we've got to spread awareness and knowledge to our people, 748 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 1: you know. So that's why I decided to have my 749 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: own podcast, and it's it's great to have people like 750 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 1: you on and share your your your socials. Please for 751 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 1: everyone that's listening. Oh sure, you can find me on 752 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: Instagram at Salvadior zero eight and you could find me 753 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,439 Speaker 1: on TikTok under that same user name. Um. What other 754 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: social do I have? Do you have? Twitter? Facebook? My Space? 755 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: My Space? What does my space? You got my Space? No? 756 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: I don't have. I don't think I have anything else 757 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: can yet? When no worries, you guys can find them 758 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: there these and gentlemen, men that want some advice, okay 759 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: that are ready to step up their game, and ladies, 760 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: um if you just want to tell him nice things 761 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: and stuff, you know. And as for me, as usual, 762 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: you guys, I always leave you with a motivational quote, 763 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: and I have one for you. Let me go ahead 764 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: and read it listens a little longer. But love is 765 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,240 Speaker 1: such a powerful force. It's there for everyone to embrace, 766 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: that kind of unconditional love for all of humankind. That 767 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: is the kind of love that impels people to go 768 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 1: into the community and try to change conditions, for others 769 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: to take risks for what they believe in. That's one. 770 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: And then love has nothing to do with what you 771 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: are expecting to get, only with what you are expecting 772 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: to give, which is everything. Hopefully those quotes get to 773 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: your guys heart again. I hope you learned a little 774 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,280 Speaker 1: bit about love and men and women and just offen 775 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: experiences and experiments and all that great stuff. I love 776 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: you by. This is a production of I Heart Radio 777 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: and Mildura podcast Network. Follow us on Instagram at Michelda 778 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: Podcasts and follow me Chickys That's c h I q 779 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,240 Speaker 1: U I s. 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