1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: What made you say yes to this show? 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 2: When I stumbled upon this opportunity, I was like, this 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: is something where they're filtering out so many people, such 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: an intense process. 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Who is your favorite cast member. 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: On the show? Ooh, My favorite cast member. 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: On the show is have your ex bro friends sitch 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: you up? 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 2: You know they probably did. Huh. I've gotten a few 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: more messages than you should. 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 1: I bet you've got a lot of girls slide from 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: your Dan's boy. 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: Hi. 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: Everyone, I'm so happy to have you here with me today. 15 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: As always, thank you so much for joining me. I'm 16 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: your host Cheeky's and today is going to be a 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: pretty exciting episode. That's because today's guest is a cast 18 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: member from the popular Netflix reality show Love Is Blind. Guys, 19 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: I've watched the entire show and I've enjoyed every single 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: minute of it. I'm not even joking. So I'm super 21 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: excited to talk to today's guest about a bunch of 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: different topics. So let's get right into it. This is 23 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: Cheeky's and Chill all right, So is promised. I am 24 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: sitting here with the one and only Salvador Perez. You 25 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: may know him as sal and as I mentioned earlier. 26 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: He is a star on the reality show Love Is 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: Blind season two. If you guys haven't seen it yet, 28 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: you guys can binge the entire season on Netflix now, 29 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you it's a must watch. So, SA, 30 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. How are you? 31 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: Thank you? I am really good. You know, it's been 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: a little bit different since the show ended. But I'm great. 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: I'm great, and I yeah, I'm excited to be here. 34 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I'm so excited to talk to you. 35 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: And Okay, now, I mean let's just get right into it. 36 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: You said that it's been a little different since, like 37 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: the show ended. Why in what way? 38 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: Well, just right off the bat, I'm such a private person, 39 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: like to begin with, so just seeing people like giving 40 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 2: me such so much support and being stopped like in 41 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: random situations in my life has been an adjustment. But 42 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 2: you know, people are so nice here and they're so considerate. 43 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: They're like, is this okay? Can I can I talk 44 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: to you a little bit? 45 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: How cute? Where do you live? 46 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: I live in a wicker Park in Chicago, Illinois. 47 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: Oh nice, Okay, I heard somewhere you're from El Paso? 48 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: Is that correct? 49 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: Yes, that's always home for me. I'l Passo, Texas. I 50 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 2: was not born there, but I was raised there so 51 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: since I was two years old, and then eventually made 52 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: them move over to Chicago. 53 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's get into love is Blind. So you 54 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: say that you're a very you know, a reserved or 55 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: private person. What made you say yes to this show, 56 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: to this experiment? Because you're you're in your early thirties, right, 57 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: So what made you feel like, Okay, I'm going to 58 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: take this leap of faith. 59 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: You know, originally I thought it would be really fun 60 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: to try it. To be completely honest, I was tired 61 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: of the apps. I had no real luck there. I 62 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: feel like I got a lot of judgment on those 63 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 2: apps when I was on there. And you know, it's 64 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 2: so easy to swipe on somebody if whatever, if they 65 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: have just not the right picture or something like that, 66 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: then it's easy to just like, all right, next person, 67 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So when I stumbled upon 68 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: this opportunity, I was like, okay, I mean, this is 69 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: something where they're filtering out so many people. This is 70 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: such an intense process. It's backed by research, it's backed 71 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: by people who are like, this is supposed to work 72 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: I don't know how much I could say, but there 73 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: were so many questions I had to answer before actually 74 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: being accepted into this. So just right off the bat, 75 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: I was like, all right, if all of these people 76 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: are going through this, I want to see if this 77 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: actually works. So I was like, I'm going to step 78 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: out of my comfort zone a little bit. And you know, 79 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: even though I am more of a private person, I 80 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: was just like, I want to put it out there. 81 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: Let's see, this could be an opportunity for growth. Maybe 82 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: I end up married at the end of it. 83 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: Well that's good though You're open. You were open to 84 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: the idea, And did you really feel like, Okay, if 85 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: I meet that girl, like I'm ready to get married, 86 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: Like you're ready to take that step. 87 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: I definitely felt like I was ready to find my person. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, 88 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: But it was I had to go into it with 89 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: an open mind and open heart and be just very 90 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 2: open to the experience. You know, I knew that going 91 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: yet I was just like, I'm just gonna go hard, 92 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be emotional, I'm going to be vulnerable, I'm 93 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: gonna be open with these people and just put my 94 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: heart on the line. And that's exactly what I did. 95 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: So you did, and I loved you. I was like, 96 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: what I'm like, honestly, I watched it like I got 97 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: stuck on the show, and you really stood out to 98 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: me because of that. I was like, he looks like 99 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: a genuine person, Like he is in touch with his emotions, 100 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: he's very honest, he knows what he wants. Because you're 101 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: fairly young, and usually men like aren't ready you know, 102 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: quote unquote like until their mid thirties, late thirties. But like, 103 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: I think because of your family, and I'm I feel 104 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: like I know you right, but I feel like I 105 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: met your sisters on the show. And then I'm like, 106 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: he comes from a good traditional family, it looks like, 107 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: and he has a good head on his shoulders. So 108 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: I was like, dude, if this girl gets her shit together, Mellory, okay, 109 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: this is my show's obviously, whatever I want, guys, Okay. 110 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: So I was like, if she gets her shit together, 111 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: she's gonna take a really good man. And then we'll 112 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: talk about that a little later. But that's just my 113 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: take from the show. So I admire that that you 114 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: took that leap of faith and you were open to 115 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: that experience. And that experiment because I'm sure it was scary. 116 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was, but I think it's so 117 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: badass because I was very interested. I'm like, yeah, like 118 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: this is another way, a more genuine fear way to 119 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: meet someone. 120 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, and its I feel like you get frozen into 121 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,119 Speaker 2: indecision when you have too many choices, and I feel 122 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: like that's what these apps today are geared towards. It's 123 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: just giving you so much, you know, and you never 124 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: take the time to get to know somebody sincerely, you know. 125 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: And then so this experience was so intense, cheeky, like 126 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: it was just that was our job twenty four to seven. 127 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: You know. It's just like finding the person that you 128 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: connect with that you want to spend the rest of 129 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: your life with. And when you put that much pressure 130 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: on one task, like you could really get far in 131 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: that goal. 132 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: You know, you could really just because that's your main focus. Yeah, yeah, 133 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: And it was was it for two weeks that you 134 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: guys were in the pods? 135 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 2: Technically it was like ten days of pod dating. The 136 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 2: whole experience I think took about three weeks, just because 137 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: we would take breaks or we weren't like going into 138 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 2: the pods every day. 139 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of figured and that was like one 140 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: of my questions because I mean, I come from like 141 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: reality TV, so I just know that even when they 142 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: would do like the edits or like they would cut 143 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: certain things, I'm like, oh my god, they're just creating drama. 144 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: Then you watch it and then you're like, Okay, it 145 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: wasn't that bad, you know, But because I know how 146 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: it works, I was wondering. I'm like, I wonder if 147 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: they were there straight for two weeks or did they take, 148 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: like you said, breaks in between. You know, it's television, guys, 149 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: it's television. Certain magic has to happen. 150 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 2: But don't get me wrong, Like some days it was 151 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: harder to go on those dates because sometimes like my 152 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: longest date was maybe two and a half hours, three 153 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: hours inside of a pod with yeah, and you you 154 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: just sit there and it's okay to be bored with 155 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: your person, you know, Like, but we would just sit 156 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: there and talk, just hang out. And sometimes these didn't 157 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: make it on there, Like on some other dates, I 158 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: would pass out a little bit. 159 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask. I was like, did you ever 160 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: take naps? Dude? 161 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? They give you really comfortable Love is blind blankets, 162 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: and so it was nice. Well I remember one time, 163 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: but I won't say who I was on a date with, 164 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: but yeah, a little bit and then you wake up 165 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: and you're like. 166 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, I love you. You're so respectful. That's 167 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: so nice of you not to say who it was, 168 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: because you had two connections, right too, strong connections? Am 169 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: I am? I correct? 170 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: You know? For me, I had I had three. There 171 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: were actually deep t and I really did connect pretty 172 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: closely towards the end of it, but then we fizzled 173 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: out at the end when we were like top three people. 174 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: We had bugled out by then, But towards the end, 175 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: I was pretty set on Mallory, like it was just 176 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: like Mallory or nobody. And the other two people that 177 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: were in my top three understood that. I think they 178 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: felt that it was just like people talk, you know. 179 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: I was talking to the guys and the girls were 180 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: talking to the girls, you know, and. 181 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: So we'd kind of get around. 182 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it got around, and we never Mallory and 183 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: I were never territorial about each other. It was just 184 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: kind of like we understood that, hey, we have a 185 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: strong connection here and we're having fun with each other 186 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: and that's it, you know, like there was no real 187 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: petition for that, you know. 188 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, another one of my favorites is deep I 189 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: felt like she was just a very genuine, great person 190 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: and I was so proud of her decision, to be honest, 191 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I was so happy 192 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: at her and Natalie honestly because I just felt like, sorry, guys, 193 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: spoiler alert here if you guys haven't watched the show, 194 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: but go watch it. You'll see what I'm talking about. 195 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: But Natalie, I love. She's such a genuine person too, 196 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: I feel, I mean from what I could see. But yeah, 197 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: Deep Da was awesome. And now that we're talking about Mallory. 198 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: So. 199 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: Let me take a deep breath, guys, she really upset 200 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: me at the end. Okay, I'm not talking crap about nobody. 201 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: It's just once you see the show, it just but 202 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,599 Speaker 1: you know what, I respect your decision, like gataki in, 203 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: but I just felt like you guys did have a 204 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: connection in the pod. You guys were like vibing and 205 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: you could tell, like how her eyes would just slide 206 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: up when you know, you guys would talk. And then 207 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what the heck happened? What do you 208 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: think happened? 209 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: Honestly, He's like, there was stuff that did happen off camera. 210 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: We were just not seeing eye together. And I take 211 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: very seriously like when somebody hears me out well, and 212 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: when I do, help us to listen to you and 213 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: to repeat what you are saying to me so that 214 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 2: you know that I am listening to you. 215 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: You're a good guy. Sorry, oh sorry. Communication is so 216 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: important to me. 217 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: That's I'm like, It's true everybody, it should be that. 218 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: It's the kindest and most considerate thing you could do 219 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: for somebody is sincerely listen to them actively and show 220 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: them that you are with your body with everything you know. Yeah, 221 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 2: and I looked out for that, I really do. And 222 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: I felt that when we were having discussions and arguments, 223 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 2: I found that we would have to have them multiple 224 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: times and I would start getting frustrated and unheard and 225 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: I would just be like, are you I would tell her, like, 226 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 2: are you seriously asking me this again? Do you want 227 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: me to explain myself again and discuss what I just 228 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 2: explained like two minutes ago, Like it was just it was. 229 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: Frustrating, And yeah, because sometimes I think what we tend 230 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: to do and I've learned this the hard way in 231 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: relationships is we listen to react and not listen to understand. 232 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: And when you're in a relationship trying to make something work, 233 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: you need to really give that person your undivided attention 234 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 1: and really show them I'm getting it, and if I 235 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: don't understand, I'm going to ask you. But sometimes it's 236 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: like I want to listen to just like bark back 237 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: at you. You know what I mean, And well, yeah, 238 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: that's what I was going to ask you, because I'm 239 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: sure a lot of things did happen off camera that 240 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: we weren't able to see, because you were pretty firm 241 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: in your decision, Like I felt like it was like 242 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: from one moment to another, like you were really into it. 243 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: And then I was like, something must have happened behind 244 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: the cameras because you just completely were like I'm not 245 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: feeling this at all anymore. And I was really surprised 246 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: at the altar with your response, but I was also 247 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: very proud. I was also very happy because I just 248 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: felt like, as a woman, you're watching and I'm like, 249 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: I don't think she's the one. I didn't feel it. 250 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think she's ready I think 251 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: she wants to be ready and she's in love with 252 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: the idea of being in love, but I don't know 253 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: if she's absolutely ready. That's just my personal opinion. Guys, 254 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: everyone that's listening, Like, I'm not talking bad about Malory. 255 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: I think we all have our process and we have 256 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: to respect that. But from what I got, I was like, 257 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're on the same frequency. You 258 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Jellybean. 259 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I totally understand and hear what you're saying. 260 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: Then there were things that continue to happen off of 261 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: the actual our actual storyline, where I was just like 262 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: I wanted to be sincere to the experience Jackie's I'm 263 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: going to be completely up with you. I wanted to 264 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: still give it a shot because I'm like, you know what, 265 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: maybe I could have a change of heart. Maybe I'll 266 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 2: feel differently when I'm there at the altar. And that's 267 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: why I didn't want to decide until I was there, 268 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: Like I made a decision, I promised myself. I was like, 269 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: for this last week, I don't want anybody to know 270 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: my decision because I haven't made it yet. I want 271 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 2: to decide it there at the altar, and so I 272 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 2: stuck to that. I didn't even tell my family. My 273 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: family was worried. They were just like, what is he 274 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: going to say on the day of the wedding? 275 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: No way, that was my question, like I did. So 276 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: no one knew, You're not even your sisters, no one knew. 277 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they even on the day of like you'll see 278 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: it if you watch it. My all of my siblings 279 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: were holding hands like at the at my wedding because 280 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: they just had no idea if I was actually going 281 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: to say yes or if I was going to say no. 282 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: You know. 283 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: But man, but regardless, like they were just being very 284 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: supportive of me, and Mallory was not my No. 285 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: She wasn't and she lost a good guy in my 286 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: personal opinion, you know me and my opinions. But okay, 287 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: so do you feel comfortable talking about why when you 288 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: got to the altar you said no, like besides the 289 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: communication stuff or you just weren't. You don't have to 290 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: give us details, but just you know, I'm wondering. 291 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: There was one moment that I knew, like, Okay, as 292 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned right now, this is what my 293 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: answer is going to be. But I'm going to continue 294 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: going on this journey with you. But this is what 295 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: I already know. I'm going to say, this is what 296 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: I feel I'm leaning towards already, but I'm going to 297 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: still give this a shot. I don't know if I 298 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: can say what happened, because that's going to come out later. 299 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: Oh I see, okay, yeah, no, no, no, don't worry. They 300 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't like that. You're going to give me an 301 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: exclusive by here, so they're gonna be like, I'll be 302 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: watching them. 303 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: It revolved around just like this is what happens in relationships. 304 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: I feel like it's nobody's fault. I feel like, at 305 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: the end of the day, we're just trying to make 306 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: it work between us. We're trying to see if we 307 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: can have a good relationship between two people, and it 308 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: takes two to do that. I'm sure that I had 309 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: some things that maybe about Mallory was looking for that 310 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: I didn't provide for her. But I'm just voicing the 311 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: things that I felt weren't there for me. And a 312 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: lot of that was just the repetitive arguments that we 313 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: kept having and just like the lack of communication and 314 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: connection that we kept feeling, and it was just we 315 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: all have our work to do. Tikis, like we all 316 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: have our trunk that we have to go through, that 317 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: we have to process. 318 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it didn't work. 319 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: It didn't work for us, and there was there was 320 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: things that got in the way, both on both sides 321 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: that we just I can't blame her for it because 322 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: I've also been through stuff like that before, you know, 323 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: Like I have gotten upset about things. And I'm talking 324 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: about like previous relationships too, Like I've messed up. I 325 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: know what it is to gaslight people, and I've done 326 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: that before to my girlfriends. I'll be very sincere about 327 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: that because I used to be insecure about myself and 328 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: I used to have work that I needed to do. 329 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: But I went to therapy and I did my work. 330 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: I became more aware of like the emotions I was 331 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: feeling because I knew that I couldn't love somebody. I 332 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: couldn't love somebody because I didn't love myself. 333 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: See, and that's when you know that you have healed 334 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: that or you're on that path of healing. Because I 335 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: think it's a lifetime thing, you know what I mean, 336 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: Like re evolve and we grow and we change. But 337 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: the fact that you can sit here and admit, hey, 338 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: I used to do this. These were my toxic traits. 339 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: And I feel like you're supposed to learn from every 340 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: relationship and grow from it and say, Okay, what am 341 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: I going to do different in my next relationship? Not 342 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: just blame the other person all the time, but also say, hey, y, 343 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: I can also do certain things differently. So that's that's 344 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: awesome of you. Before we move on, I'm very curious. 345 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: What is your sign? 346 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I uh, I am in ferries with a 347 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: Leo rising and a Taurus moon. 348 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: Okay, perfect, Okay, Well, my brother Johnny is really good 349 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: at like all the chart stuff. The thing is that 350 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: you're super connected with your feelings and I like that. 351 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: I think that that was awesome because you were on 352 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: television and you didn't care, like You're like, I'm here 353 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: to experience this and I'm not gonna put up a 354 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: front like homeboy did what deep? The's guy? What's his name? 355 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: Don't even Oh my gosh, shape Yes, dude, shake. I 356 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: could not with my life with him. I'm just like, shake, 357 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: just chill out, like I think he kind of tried, 358 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: but it's just there's no way. But you, on the 359 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: other hand were very connected to like your emotions, and 360 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: you had no problem with shedding a tear too if 361 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,479 Speaker 1: need be. And that's not something that we see a lot, 362 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: especially in our culture. 363 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: You know. I wish that it wasn't such a rare thing. 364 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: I wish that it was just a human thing for 365 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: men to accept because we wear so much armor around that. 366 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: And I get emotional talking about this because even after 367 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 2: the show, one of my cousins that we don't really 368 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: spend a lot of time together, we didn't really get 369 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: to know each other a lot, but he reached out 370 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: to me after the show and he was like, cousin, like, 371 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: I don't I never met you man like, I never 372 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: felt like I got to know you that way. But 373 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: just seeing you and seeing you get emotional like that 374 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: on screen and not caring like it was it was 375 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 2: very gosh. I'm so sorry. 376 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 1: No, you're fine. Those you're exit hitting you up? Have 377 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: your ex girfriend hit you up? You know they probably did. 378 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: Ah, I've gotten a few more messages than usual. 379 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: I bet you got a lot of girls sliding your dms. 380 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 2: Boy, they're all beautiful, and I'll eventually get a nice 381 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 2: positive messages. That's all that's all. But no, Yeah, just 382 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 2: just knowing that I reached at least one man or 383 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 2: a few men that felt like they couldn't express that 384 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 2: side of themselves, then mission accomplished. Honestly, Chiggy's but I 385 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: really feel like that needs to be more of a 386 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: more normalized and it shouldn't be a rare thing. And 387 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: I think that men specific need to be the ones 388 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: to show that we've heard it enough from everyone else. 389 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 2: I feel like men need to step up and show 390 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 2: that vulnerability on screen. Men who have platforms need to 391 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: show that because because guys are depressed. Men are depressed, 392 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: and it's a there's a lot of suicide with men. 393 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: I feel like that that they feel lonely, they feel lost, 394 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: and it's because if you don't have that sensitivity and 395 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 2: you don't take off that armor, you lack all connection 396 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: with people. 397 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, and you build up this tension you 398 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean, within you and you're not releasing. 399 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: You need to release, like I always say, like I'll cry, 400 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: like I'm a crier, and I just feel like it 401 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: just cleanses my soul and I feel so much better afterwards. 402 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: Imagine men in our culture that we're like, no, somebody, 403 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: it's not your run and you're not supposed to cry, 404 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: and you got to be a macho and this and that. 405 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: It's like, dude, like, do you understand what you're doing 406 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: to these to these men, like you're not allowing them 407 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: to express themselves and what happens It turns into depression, anxiety, anger. 408 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: And this is why I think it was great that you, 409 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: being like the age that you are, being Latino, being 410 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: on this, on this very famous show Love is Mind, 411 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: that you were able to just say, hey, like I'm 412 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: connected with my like, there's nothing wrong with that. Like 413 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, if anything that made you sexier, that made 414 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: you like more attractive, I feel for women, I think 415 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: that that's like I'm like, damn, like that's beautiful. I'm 416 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,719 Speaker 1: sure a lot of women feel like that. So that's 417 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you because I'm like, I'm glad 418 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: that you're saying it. I think it should be more 419 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: normalized for sure. 420 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 2: So all guys you heard it here first. 421 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, crying is sexy. Okay, it makes a girl horny 422 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: and I'm just kidding. Sorry sorry, okay, So anyway, okay. 423 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 2: But to kind of wrap that whole thing, up though, 424 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 2: Like I just want to say, like I even heard, 425 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 2: because I like, I love listening to podcasts that talk 426 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: about that too, and I'm so glad that you're yeating 427 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: this up to Chiky's. There's a really good one I 428 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: follow Justin Baldoni, the one from Jane the Virgin, and 429 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 2: he talks about literal tears, like there's stress hormone in 430 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 2: your tears. Oh wait, when you lie, there are literally 431 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 2: stress hormones in your tears. 432 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: There it is. That's freaking awesome. I'm going to listen 433 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: to it because I've always felt that. I'm like, it's 434 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: a way of releasing toxins from your body, like you 435 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: have it built up in your chest, and for so 436 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: long I would have just hold it in. And when 437 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: I was in a really bad relationship and i'd hold 438 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: it in, I'm like, I don't want to cry. I 439 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: don't know because then he doesn't, like, you know, whatever, 440 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: it made the case maybe, but then I would just 441 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: go outside and just yell and cry, and I feel like, oh, 442 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: I feel better now. And then now I know it's 443 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: like it's releasing hormones. That's crazy. Yeah, that's awesome. That 444 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: is so cool. Thank you for sharing that. See, I 445 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: was right. I was right. So tell me, do you 446 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,719 Speaker 1: feel that love is blind taught you or made you 447 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: really realize what you want and don't want in your wife? 448 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: You know? 449 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: I do feel very lucky to have been a part 450 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: of such an experience because if you're looking at it 451 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 2: from a numbers perspective, like there's only been the thirty 452 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: of us that went through it this season, and then 453 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: the thirty others that went through it on the first season, 454 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: and to just think about it in that way and 455 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: going through the process because there was the pods, I 456 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: think the pods were really the place where I felt 457 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 2: that I grew and I had never gone so in 458 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: depth as far as like what's a want for me 459 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: and what's a need in my partner? You know, like 460 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: what is important to me? What do I need to 461 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 2: talk about as far as finances goes as kids go? 462 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 2: What are we going to teach our kids? You know? 463 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 2: Like do I want kids? You know? And so I 464 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: gave so much thought to all of this throughout the 465 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: whole process that now I just feel like dating is 466 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: so much easier because I'm so much more open and 467 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: ready to ask those questions. It was kind of like 468 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: a no bullshit, a no bullshit experience. It taught you 469 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 2: how to spot all of it and just rip all 470 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: of that out and just get down to the nitty gritty, 471 00:22:58,880 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 472 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I mean I really believe, like I was, like, 473 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: if I were single and if I could be on 474 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: a show like that, I probably would because I think, 475 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: like you said, like you're going to learn so much 476 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: about yourself during this time and about just humans in general. 477 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 1: And I was very curious too, because I know you 478 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: had that collection with Mallory with mel but you did 479 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: you when you saw her? Like did you really you 480 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: were in those pods thinking I don't care what this 481 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: person looks like, I really don't care, Like you were 482 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: just completely engrossed in getting to know that person from 483 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: her heart, like in her mind. And when you saw 484 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: her in person, did you did it change? Like did 485 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: you feel like, oh she's beautiful or did you did 486 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: anything change? 487 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: No? When I saw her in person, you know, well, 488 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: leading up to the whole thing, like, I was not 489 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: worried at all. In fact, I wanted to stay true 490 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: to the experience. There were some other people that were 491 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: like a kind of getting hints about how their person looked, 492 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: but I didn't want any of that at all. I 493 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: just I just wanted to be surprised so cool. When 494 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: I first saw her, there was so much that I 495 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: had to process. I feel like my body was reacting 496 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 2: to Mallory too, and I was just like, oh my god, 497 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: I'm trying to soak this person up and try to 498 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: put it was so interesting to see her mouth the 499 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 2: move and hear her voice come out of her, and 500 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: I was just like it was like shock, nerves, excitement, 501 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 2: you know. And I'm sure that she was going through 502 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 2: the same thing, but it was just kind of like, Okay, 503 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 2: now let's build up our physical relationship. 504 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: It was like another step. 505 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but she's she's extremely beautiful, and I was super 506 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: excited to get to know her, and I knew that 507 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 2: no matter what, that we were just gonna that it 508 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: was just the next step. Like you said, like the 509 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: physical was just going to be the next step. 510 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, that little like like a level of like 511 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 1: to add to the excitement, you know what I mean, 512 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: Because Yeah, I think she's beautiful. I think she's very attractive, 513 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: very attractive girl. I love the way she dresses her 514 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: hair and everything, then we won't eat that. And you 515 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: know at the reunion. I watch your reunion, right, I'm 516 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: a fan, guys. I watch your reunion and I was 517 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: very freaking like I was like like this, literally, I 518 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: was sitting on the couch and I started like clapping 519 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: when you when you came out, and you just were 520 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: very straightforward because you're very like respectful type of guy, 521 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: and you were very respectful. But like I was like, damn, 522 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: he has like a backbone. He is not here to 523 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 1: fuck around. He's here to get answers. And I thought 524 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: that was really like it puts you like on another 525 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: level again because I'm like, dude, he's a sensitive guy. 526 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: He's in tune with his emotions, but then he can 527 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: also like stand his own. So I wanted to like 528 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: tell you that because I thought that was a really 529 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: beautiful moment and how you connected with deep D and 530 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: you were just defended her there. I was like, oh heck, yeah, 531 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: I was like that's amazing, Oh. 532 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 2: My gosh, and like they I probably shouldn't say this, 533 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 2: but they did make Shake look better than than what 534 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: he what he actually was. 535 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: No way I was going to ask, Yeah, he was 536 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: a total douche dude, he was a douche. 537 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 2: Because I love Deep Tea, I truly do. She's she's 538 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: such a good person inside and out. I feel I 539 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: even told her after everything was over, I'm like, Deep, 540 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: you are literally going to be the queen of everything 541 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 2: when you when all of this ends, because of how 542 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: bad this person was too and because you're such a 543 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 2: good person, the fact that he was so bad to 544 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 2: you is just gonna your. 545 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: Your your your elevate. Yeah, you know, definitely. And she 546 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: sat there so poised and just wasn't she just like, 547 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to sit here in my dress and look 548 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: cute and go ahead, you look like an idiot. So 549 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: I just loved it to the to the end. She 550 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: just kept her class, and I'm like, she's going to 551 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: get a good man out of this. I hope she does, 552 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: because a Gil, I know he needs some serious I don't. 553 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: Know what, but. 554 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: So sal tell us, what comes after love is blind? 555 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 2: After love is blind? I just I'm thinking to myself, 556 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 2: I want a date. I want to open up that door, 557 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 2: and and no longer do apps. I feel like it's 558 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: important for me maybe to set up a date or 559 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: two whatever, but it's more authentic to me to meet 560 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 2: somebody in person. Now that's how I am thinking going 561 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: into this. And honestly, like I when I did go 562 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: on dates after the show, it was more so with 563 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 2: like better questions. I just I was so interested in 564 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: the person because it was just like, hey, let's let's 565 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 2: figure this out. Let's see if we actually want this. 566 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 2: It was so much more easier for me to build 567 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 2: rapport with somebody because I was so like, I was 568 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 2: just one hundred percent in as far as like, let's 569 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: figure this out, let's date, let's have fun, you know, 570 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 2: let's let's ask the meaningful questions if that's where we 571 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 2: want to want this to go, and just be revolve 572 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: around honesty, you know, and good communication and if it's 573 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: if it's casual with somebody, like it's whatever, it's casual, 574 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: you know, but you communicate and you can well and 575 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: it's all consensual, and I feel and I feel like 576 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 2: there's it's really important to have that. I guess if 577 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: I could summarize it in all, what I learned the 578 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: most coming out of this experience is how to create 579 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 2: a safe space for the women in my life. 580 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: Guys. Oh my gosh, dude, that's awesome. I'm your fan, dude, 581 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: I'm your faed. I want all the guys to listen 582 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: to this. It's probably like mainly women, but they're probably 583 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: gonna be like trying to find you. But dude, like, yes, yes, 584 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: you remind me a lot of my boyfriend, the way 585 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: that you speak and the way that you express yourself 586 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: and you're connected, like he goes to therapy, like he's 587 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: all about making me feel safe and I never had 588 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: that and he's twenty nine, okay, so like I know 589 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: that there are good guys out there, and he's just 590 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: it's like when you're ready and you know what you 591 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,239 Speaker 1: want in life and you've gone through things and you 592 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: do what you got to do, like therapy, life, coaching, mentorship, 593 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: whatever it is, it really does help you. Guys. It 594 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: helps the healing process and nas like like sel so 595 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: that's awesome and the bar. 596 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: Is so low for men. It really is like if 597 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: you go to therapy, like they will make a parade 598 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: for you, like very good for you. Yeah, you know, 599 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: and it's it's interesting. I feel also coming out of 600 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: this is just understanding like the fact that you can 601 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 2: only only love somebody as much as you love yourself 602 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 2: and I feel like that became more evident to me too, 603 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: and just letting someone in that deeply is hard if 604 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: you if you haven't done that work for yourself, you know, 605 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 2: that's where insecurities come in because you just haven't done 606 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 2: that work. Definitely, you just haven't done it, and no 607 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 2: one can do it for you. No one can. 608 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: That's a choice that you have to make. And whether 609 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: it's for the person that's in your life now or 610 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: the person that's going to come, it's like, if you 611 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: don't do that work, they're just those things are just 612 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: going to come back and haunt you in every single relationships. 613 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: It's like, it's your choice. You gotta really get in 614 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: there and do the work. Guys. I mean we all 615 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: have them. I have you know what you call those 616 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: those demons from my past, from my childhood that I 617 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: have to constantly go to therapy and make sure I 618 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: keep them in place and I keep them suppressed and 619 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: I just keep growing mentally, emotionally and in every way. So 620 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: it's it's not like, oh, you go to therapy, I'm bad, 621 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: I need help, I'm broken. No, Like I think we 622 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: all are kind of a little bit broken. We need 623 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: to be kind of like put back together. It's life. 624 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: It brings us closer together when you when you understand 625 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: that that we're all going through something. But yes, like 626 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 2: you said, it's. 627 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: So good to see that you're not jaded, you know 628 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: what I mean, You're still open, you're still willing, you're 629 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: still like you know, because but you were there for 630 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: all the right reasons. So I think that's why. And 631 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: you have, like I said earlier, very good head on 632 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: your shoulders. I can tell from that, like since I 633 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: watched the show. So it's so nice to be able 634 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: to speak to you and you know, talk about all 635 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: these things. Now that we're kind of like talking, what 636 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: about we do some singing? Why don't you sing for us? 637 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: Not ready for I wasn't prepared for this. 638 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 2: I don't even know what I would begin to sing. 639 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: Anything anything like a little that maybe you even sing 640 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: on the on the show. 641 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: Oh you know, go let me see realize you and 642 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: what a terrible Joe. 643 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: You're so cute. Thank you so much, yay, thank you, 644 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: thank you so sweeper doing that. Okay, so how about 645 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 1: now we move on to like a Q and A 646 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: Are you game for that or. 647 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: What I'm getting that? 648 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: Like little fire questions some some So here we go. 649 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: Who is your favorite cast member on the show? 650 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: Oh, my favorite cast member on the show is honestly, 651 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: I have to say Danielle. Yeah. 652 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a sweetheart. 653 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: Danielle is such a sweetheart, I even all off camera 654 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: and everything, Like, I know she's gone through a lot, 655 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 2: and I know that she's she got some keat for 656 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: being like so vulnerable on camera, you know, but I 657 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 2: feel like I feel like inside she she's a she's. 658 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: Very real and she's solid. 659 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's she's a great and her and a deep tea. 660 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: Yes. Okay, So who is your least favorite cast member? 661 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 2: Do I even have to say? 662 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,479 Speaker 1: I know, Shaked? 663 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like I And look, I'm not going 664 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: to talk bad, but I feel like this goes for 665 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 2: everybody like you. You have to you have to develop 666 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: your empathy. You have to develop your empathy for people 667 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 2: and know that that what you say has consequences. That's 668 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 2: that's all I'm going to say. 669 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: What's one thing you think the show got wrong about you? 670 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 2: I don't sing all the time. I sing for myself 671 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 2: and a little bit, you know, but that I think 672 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: that's one thing they got wrong about me. But you know, 673 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: I pulled out my yuke once and after that it 674 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: was just like forget it, Like we need more uke, 675 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 2: we need more use. 676 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: That was production, huh, They're like, do it more and more. 677 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: I know how reality is, so it's probably yeah, I 678 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: get it. Okay, So how has the show changed your 679 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: perception on dating? 680 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: You know? If I could summarize it like we were 681 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 2: saying earlier, chik is they really helped me just check 682 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 2: on the women in my life and going in with 683 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 2: that same energy, checking in the women in my life, 684 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 2: making sure that they feel safe around me, and going 685 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 2: into days in that same way, you know, and above everything, 686 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 2: make friends first, be friends with these girls, like, show 687 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 2: a genuine interest in them. That's what I got out 688 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 2: of it the most. I want to be friend to 689 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: women in my life first. It's not about it's not 690 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 2: all physical, it's not about all about attraction. 691 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, Okay. Have there been any cons to being 692 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: on the show. 693 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 2: It's kind of it's kind of hard to put yourself 694 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: out there. It's not really a con though, it's just 695 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 2: kind of you if it could be if you let 696 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 2: it get to you, you know. But I feel like 697 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 2: if you lean into yourself and realize that that's your 698 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 2: only way to get through this is just to rely 699 00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: on yourself and be sure of everything about that is you. 700 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 2: Then then you'll be fine. But it's being a private, 701 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 2: private person like I am. It was hard for me 702 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 2: to do that. So but not exactly a. 703 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: Con Okay, so here's an interesting question, sal, Do you 704 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: think you're still ready for marriage? Mmm? 705 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 2: Oh, man, you know, I don't think I am. 706 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: No. 707 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 2: I was so mentally prepared in that experience, and it 708 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 2: was just like all right, go go, go, go go, 709 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 2: like yes, proposal, yes, all right, let's go, let's make 710 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 2: this work. And it wasn't. There wasn't enough time for 711 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 2: me to just kind of pause and think. And I 712 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 2: feel like what really influenced that too, was the fact 713 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 2: that we can't talk to our families when we're in 714 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 2: these pods, you know, so I yeh bounce these ideas 715 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 2: off of anybody. It's just you. So it's like, which 716 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 2: is fine, Like it's all you need, you know at 717 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 2: the end of the day. But oh it was. 718 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: But you're not scared of marriage, right. 719 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not scared of like companionship, being with somebody 720 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 2: and putting in the work, you know. 721 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: And being committed and monogamous and all that stuff. 722 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, being committed monogamous is I think if you're 723 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 2: with the right person can be very very rewarding. 724 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: For sure, it comes easy. I feel like when you're 725 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: with that person and you you have like a friendship 726 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: with them as well, it just comes easy. It's like, 727 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: I love this person. I care about this person so much. 728 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: It's like you don't even think about other people, about cheating, 729 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 730 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you kind of. I mean, don't get me wrong, 731 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 2: you're your partner, will notice another person, you know, like 732 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: that you will notice people you know, but at the 733 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 2: same time, like you know that you're in this together 734 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 2: and you know what the consequences would be if you 735 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 2: did go with someone else. And at the end of 736 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 2: the day, it's just poor communication, like you're not feeling somebody, 737 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 2: like tell them, even if it doesn't mean a breakup. 738 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's better to be honest, you know, the truth 739 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: goes a long way. So moving on to food a 740 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: little bit, you know, water burger or in and out, 741 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: in and out, Yeah, right, I want some in and 742 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: out so bad. I love water Burger because I have 743 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: like a lot of options, but then again, like I 744 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: don't really like options. I like but just a taste. 745 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: I would go with in and out. So I agree 746 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: with you on that one. 747 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, I like water Burger. The 748 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 2: fries are are what's the word over over overrated? Overrated? Overrated. 749 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:36,720 Speaker 1: As far as drinks go, tequila or vodka, tequila, Ah right, okay, 750 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: tequila or beer tequila? Okay? 751 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:40,959 Speaker 2: Nice? 752 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like tequila and neat just like you know, 753 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: throw it. 754 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 2: Back lime, a little salt, perfect on. 755 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: The rocks or blended on the rocks. Yeah right, I 756 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: think it's yeah the nice okay, okay, So alrighty okay. 757 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: So would you ever go on a show like Love 758 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: Is Blind Again? 759 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 2: I think I would. I yeah, I would go on 760 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 2: a show like Love Is Blind Again. It was a ah, 761 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 2: it's uncomfortable, but I feel like you grow in those 762 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 2: uncomfortable situations. So for that reason alone, Hell yeah, I 763 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 2: would do it again. 764 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: That's awesome. I love that. I love that. So what's next. 765 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 2: I just got a new job and I'm working remotely, 766 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 2: so I'm focused on that, and I'm focused on my 767 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 2: platform and understanding the responsibility that comes with that. You know, 768 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 2: and I want to spread some awareness for men who 769 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 2: might feel alone or who feel like they can't open 770 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 2: up their heart and feel those emotions, you know, so 771 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 2: I just yeah, sorry, that's my dryer. 772 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay. He washes those two guys or 773 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: lady should I say? That's awesome? 774 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's next for me, just making sure that 775 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 2: my platform is a safe space for everybody on there 776 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 2: and that they could take something and learn something from 777 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 2: from there, you know. And I want to focus on 778 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 2: providing resources for good resources that have helped me in 779 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 2: my past, like whether it's platforms, podcasts, and yeah, that's 780 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 2: really what I'm focused on next. And just staying positive 781 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 2: and making sure that the people in my life are 782 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 2: prioritized and safe. 783 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: That's awesome. And you know what, I can see you 784 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: doing that. I can see you doing a podcast and 785 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 1: talking about everything that we've talked about here. I've learned 786 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 1: so much and it's just so like like I said, 787 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 1: it's a it's a breath of fresh air to see 788 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: that there are good men out there and smart men 789 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: that do their own laundry, you guys. That's awesome and 790 00:39:50,880 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 1: drink tequila and seeing damn it well, thank you so much. Honestly, 791 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: sal I am. I am excited. You are for sure 792 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: one of my favorites on the show, and I really 793 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: connected with you, and thank you. I'm so glad that 794 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: you took the time to talk to me and come 795 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: on my podcast. 796 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you much, and I wish 797 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 2: you the best, and thank you for talking about these topics. 798 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 2: It's so important. 799 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely, we got to spread awareness and knowledge to our people, 800 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 1: you know. So that's why I decided to have my 801 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: own podcast, and it's great to have people like you 802 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: on and share your your socials. Please for everyone that's listening. 803 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 2: Oh sure, you could find me on Instagram at Salvadior 804 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 2: zero eight and you could find me on TikTok under 805 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 2: that same username. What other social do I have? Cheeks? 806 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: Do you have? Twitter? Facebook? My Space? My Space? Who 807 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: does my face? 808 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:53,720 Speaker 2: You got on my Space? 809 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: No? 810 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 2: I don't have I don't think I have anything else. 811 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 1: No worries. You guys can find them thereadies and gentlemen, 812 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: men that want some advice, okay, that are ready to 813 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: step up their game, and ladies if you just want 814 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: to tell them nice things and stuff, you know. And 815 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 1: as for me as usual, You guys, I always leave 816 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: you with a motivational quote, and I have one for you. 817 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 1: Let me go ahead and read it. This seems a 818 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,479 Speaker 1: little longer, but love is such a powerful force. It's 819 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: there for everyone to embrace. That kind of unconditional love 820 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 1: for all of humankind. That is the kind of love 821 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,720 Speaker 1: that impels people to go into the community and try 822 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: to change conditions for others, to take risks for what 823 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: they believe in. That's one. And then love has nothing 824 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: to do with what you are expecting to get, only 825 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,720 Speaker 1: with what you are expecting to give, which is everything. 826 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 1: Hopefully those quotes get to your guys' heart again. I 827 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: hope you learned a little bit about love and men 828 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 1: and women and just stuff and experiences and experiments and 829 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: all that great stuffles. I love you bye. 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