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Speaker 1: Hello America, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah. Welcome with a Sean

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Speaker 1: Hannity Show. I'm Peter Schweitzer. Sitting next to me is

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Speaker 1: Eric Eggers. We work for the Government Accountability Institute. We

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Speaker 1: and Corruption and Secret Empires. And we have a action

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Speaker 1: packed show today, a lot of guests. We've got coming up,

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Speaker 1: former Governor Wisconsin, current president of Young America's Foundations, Governor

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Speaker 1: Scott Walker. We've got college president Richard Corkan. We're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about the craziness on college campuses. In the

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Speaker 1: five o'clock hour, we are going to make the definitive

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Speaker 1: case that we believe show that Joe Biden has engaged

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Speaker 1: in bribery and should be charged as such. And joining

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Speaker 1: us as a guest to discuss that is going to

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Speaker 1: be Jason Chafitz, our colleague and the former chairman of

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Speaker 1: the House Oversight Committee.

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Speaker 2: It's a busy show with a lot of good information,

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Speaker 2: and I think that we try to take this opportunity.

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Speaker 2: We're blessed to be able to guest host and fill

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Speaker 2: in for Sean has amazing shown his maidies and audience

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Speaker 2: once a year. But I think this is a story

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Speaker 2: that we have been on. We've been chronically in the

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Speaker 2: corruption in the Biden administration since Secret Empires came out

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Speaker 2: back in twenty eighteen. So we first introduced the concept

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Speaker 2: of Hunter Biden to shady business connections. You're now seeing

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Speaker 2: some of those allegations actually being followed.

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Speaker 3: Up with people that have subpoena power. Imagine that.

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Speaker 2: And that's one of the best things that people in

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Speaker 2: Congress are doing. And so I think that the fact

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Speaker 2: pattern that we have we've had access to Hunter's laptop

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Speaker 2: since day one, and not just had access to the

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Speaker 2: Hunter's laptop, we've had multiple email account access, so we've

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Speaker 2: been able to sort of triangulate and verify through multi

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Speaker 2: factor authentication, you might.

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Speaker 1: Say, exactly right. And the five o'clock hour we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about how I think the Committee has done

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Speaker 1: a great job. Chairman Comber has done a fantastic job,

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Speaker 1: but they're playing into the game, the trap that the

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Speaker 1: Democrats have laid, and it's very, very important that this

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Speaker 1: be corrected. Because the evidence is there now. And what's

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Speaker 1: happening is the Democrats are trying to move the gold posts.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to say that the only way that impeachment

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Speaker 1: would be justified, the only way that some sort of

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Speaker 1: criminal charge would be justified, is showing that Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: get paid, and that is absolutely not necessary. But you're

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Speaker 1: going to have to listen to the Five o'clock Hour

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Speaker 1: to show for us to show you and make that case.

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Speaker 2: So we will say this, I think that Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: is essentially and we're talking about Hunter Biden, and we're

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Speaker 2: talking about Hunter Biden not because there's some naughty photos

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Speaker 2: of him on his laptop and not because he happens

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Speaker 2: to have been paid by people in questionable parts of

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Speaker 2: the world, but because we believe that Hunter Biden represents

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Speaker 2: the access portal to influence US policy in the form

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Speaker 2: of Joe Biden, whether he was vice president or president

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Speaker 2: United States. That's the evidence we think has been clear,

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Speaker 2: and that's what we will discuss in the Five o'clock card.

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Speaker 3: That's why it matters. That's why Hunter Biden has always mattered.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, and that Joe Biden took specific official

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Speaker 1: actions to help Hunter Biden's clients. So it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: if Joe Biden got paid, his family got paid, and

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Speaker 1: that's with the federal statute shows. So we've had a

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Speaker 1: discussion in the previous hour about all the decisions that

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Speaker 1: problems with the food supply. And we've got a caller

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Speaker 1: on the line, Alex, who wants to talk about immigration

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Speaker 1: and Joe Biden.

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Speaker 4: Alex, are you there, Yes, Hey, good afternoon, guys. Glad

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Speaker 4: you're there. Merry Christmas to you. I just want to

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Speaker 4: share a couple things with you. Well, one is a

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Speaker 4: concern and another one is an effective information that I

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Speaker 4: learned over the weekend. But I'll be real brief.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 4: I was watching some news reports about Fox News and

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Speaker 4: other agencies approaching illegals at the border and talking with them,

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Speaker 4: and a lot of them seem to have a pretty

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Speaker 4: when it came they came across the border, like thank

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Speaker 4: you Joe Biden and the Democratic Party for allowing me

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Speaker 4: to get here, or something of that nature, and they

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Speaker 4: my mind was news reports that I heard about six

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Speaker 4: they crossed the border. I don't know if you guys

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Speaker 4: do we know that if they aren't being coached and

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Speaker 4: to get questioned at the border, how do we know

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Speaker 4: that they're not getting coached about Hey, in the future,

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Speaker 4: you're going to see this mail in ballot. You can

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Speaker 4: go ahead and fill one of those out and mail

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Speaker 4: it in now. I would hate to think that things

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Speaker 4: hope that's not what's going on, but it would really

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Speaker 4: be something that could happen. And then my last point

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Speaker 4: with you guys is this paying up after I make

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Speaker 4: this over the weekend, I learn because I'm a resident

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Speaker 4: of the state of Michigan, that Governor Whitmer was able

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Speaker 4: to get legislation passed that allows sixteen year olds to

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Speaker 4: start voting as of January one of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: So if you turn sixteen in January of twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: four this year, you can vote. If you turn sixteen

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Speaker 4: all the way before November, you can vote in the

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Speaker 4: presidential election. And I'm sure that sixteen year olds are

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Speaker 4: very competent people. We allow them to get drivers permits

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Speaker 4: and drive cars. But you know, with a lot of

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Speaker 4: culture going on, and somehow the younger generation get influenced

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Speaker 4: in some negative ways, I think that's going to pose

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Speaker 4: a little bit of an extra battle. But I'm going

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Speaker 4: to hang up and let you guys make a point

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Speaker 4: on all that. And hey, you guys, have a merry Christmas,

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Speaker 4: and thank you for being there and filling in for Sean.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Alex. You have a merry Christmas as well. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you look at the border, we think

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Speaker 1: of the economic migrants that are coming across the border,

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Speaker 1: but there are coyotes and there are members of the

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Speaker 1: drug cartels that are being paid to get people across the border,

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Speaker 1: and their job is not to just say, hey, run

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Speaker 1: They actually prep them with how to claim political asylum

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Speaker 1: because you have to use very specific language to try

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Speaker 1: the border. And this ties into what we were talking

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Speaker 1: about in the earlier program with Seamus Brunner about how

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Speaker 1: the large organizations, the global elites, they want migrants to

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Speaker 1: don't see it as a problem. It's part of their

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Speaker 3: I'll say Alex made the most of his national radio call, right.

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Speaker 2: Alex had a few points to make and then triplicate

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Speaker 2: the other point he made about the quote that the

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Speaker 2: Fox News producers would get. I mean, that's one thing

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Speaker 2: about being a field producer. If you're down there, you're

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Speaker 2: trying to report on immigration. You're also looking for good quotes,

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Speaker 2: so the fact that they happen to be particularly articulate,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much of that speaks to like

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Speaker 2: the coaching of being in sync, but I will say this,

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Speaker 2: he mentioned something, and we should just correct the record.

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Speaker 2: What's happening in Michigan. And trust me, I say this

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Speaker 2: to someone who wrote a book in twenty eighteen called

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Speaker 2: Fraud How the Left plans to steal the next election.

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Speaker 3: I would love it if you bought it on Amazon.

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Speaker 2: But the so trust me, I'm very much aware of

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Speaker 2: the threats to election security that I think what happened

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Speaker 2: this before twenty twenty, just the status quo was a

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Speaker 2: highly vulnerable state. Then you took the weakest part of

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Speaker 2: our election and made it the most common form of

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Speaker 2: election in terms of mail in balloting, in the name

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Speaker 2: of global health. That's absolutely the thing that happened. I

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Speaker 2: definitely think it impacted the nature of the result. But

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Speaker 2: what Michigan has done, they're not allowing sixteen year olds

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Speaker 2: to vote. They're allowing sixteen year olds to pre register

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Speaker 2: to vote and still vote in twenty eighteen. That's not

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Speaker 2: necessarily entirely uncommon in fact, when I was in high school,

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Speaker 2: you could pre register in high school and then when

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Speaker 2: you become eighteen now, but it is I think it

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Speaker 2: speaks to what people do now. They chase ballots, they

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Speaker 2: going to talk about what's happening when those young people

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Speaker 2: go to college and the insanity that ensues with people

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Speaker 2: to say that some of our best are no longer

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Speaker 2: our best. But it's the smart politics to capture young

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Speaker 2: people and make sure as many young people are registered

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Speaker 2: to vote, because once they're then registered to vote, you

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Speaker 2: of the things that's happened post in terms of elections.

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Speaker 2: You can now take ballots, take them to them, help

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would just add to that. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: it's not the same as allowing them to vote, but

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Speaker 1: you're having sixteen year olds pre registered to vote, so

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Speaker 1: you've got all these registered voters out there when they

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Speaker 1: get older, and the problem is people move around. And

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Speaker 1: you know, it was the Rasmussen survey that came out

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Speaker 1: I think it was last week where they talked to

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Speaker 1: people who in the twenty twenty election mailed in their ballots,

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Speaker 1: and twenty percent admitted that in their mail in ballots

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Speaker 1: they actually lied or they cheated, They filled out somebody

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Speaker 1: else's ballot for them. They received ballots in multiple states

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Speaker 1: because they either had two residences or they had moved

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Speaker 1: and they voted in both states. The problem is, yes,

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Speaker 1: voter registration is good. We want voter registration, but when

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Speaker 1: you match it with sloppy records, and you match it

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Speaker 1: with mailing a ballot to everybody who is registered without

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Speaker 1: even asking seeing if they're actually there, you get the

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Speaker 1: kind of fraud that I believe happened in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: It was not, in my mind, the voting machines, It

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Speaker 1: was the mail in ballots. And now one in five

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Speaker 1: I think the numbers probably higher is admitting, at least

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Speaker 1: in this survey, that they fraudulently filled out mail in ballots.

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Speaker 2: You know, I saw a Washington Post article that tried

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Speaker 2: to sort of dismiss and refute those poll results and say, oh,

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Speaker 2: that's impossible.

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Speaker 3: Here's what's not impossible.

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Speaker 2: The Supreme Court cited statistics from a Pew survey that

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Speaker 2: was done in twenty twelve that said one in eight

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Speaker 2: voter registrations in the country were wrong. Right, So we

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Speaker 2: know there's tons of voter registration air in My book,

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Speaker 2: which also came out in twenty eighteen, was based in

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Speaker 2: part of a study we performed with America's voter roles

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Speaker 2: in which we found more than two thousand instances of

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Speaker 2: double voting in the state of Florida alone, right, which

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Speaker 1: And how to fight back. We'll be back right after this.

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Speaker 2: It's a great point, because yes, what's happening at Harvard

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Speaker 3: And that's what Richard Corkan and Scott Walker can talk

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Speaker 1: Now, that's exactly right. We've got Scott Walker, the former

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Speaker 1: Let's begin with you, Governor Walker, so people know how

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Peter, great question, Thanks for me, Honor. If nothing else,

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Speaker 1: you know, in high school, because I know, you have

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Speaker 1: programs in high school as well or college, and the

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Speaker 1: parents kind of telling the kids, you know what, don't

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Speaker 1: stand up for your beliefs. Just keep your head down,

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Speaker 1: go to class, get the grades, and don't fight the fight.

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Speaker 1: Why is that the wrong strategy for parents to encourage

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Speaker 1: on their children or for students to employ.

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Speaker 5: No, you're exactly right. We do college, high school, and

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Speaker 5: now middle school. And I'd just said every step of

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Speaker 5: the way here it maybe was true, you know, Peter,

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Speaker 5: when we were young, even then I would have doubted that.

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Speaker 5: I certainly tried to stand up in college when there

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Speaker 5: was a liberal bias there as well. But these days

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Speaker 5: it's not enough because then you go and graduate and

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Speaker 5: you go to the corporate world, and for a lot

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Speaker 5: of these folks, they're just as well. It's not more

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Speaker 5: so than that. Much of the higher education systems are.

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Speaker 5: And so you've got to learn not just to fight back.

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Speaker 5: But one of the things we do is teach people.

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Speaker 5: We don't just have conferences and lectures online. We know

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Speaker 5: many of our events actually breakout sessions and help young

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Speaker 5: people prepare in their schools, in their communities, in their colleges.

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Speaker 5: How do you push back at some of this, and

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Speaker 5: sometimes it's easiest asking a question. It's not just being

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Speaker 5: the lead debater, but actually saying, you know, where did

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Speaker 5: that come from? That I don't have that information, where

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Speaker 5: is this coming from? Because most people on the left,

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Speaker 5: you know, are like you know, following sheep, following each other.

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Speaker 5: They really don't know where the source of it is,

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Speaker 5: and so they'll keep going down that path until someone

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Speaker 5: challenges them. So one they have to stand up, because

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Speaker 5: sooner or later you got to stand up. And the

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Speaker 5: other thing I would just say, add to the previous

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Speaker 5: answer to was that I think you're absolutely right. Not

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Speaker 5: only we need groups like YEFF and others out there,

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Speaker 5: but I love the fact that donors are speaking up

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Speaker 5: and saying I don't want my money to go. It's

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Speaker 5: sad that it took something in October seventh massacre to

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Speaker 5: make that happen, but a lot of these donors, like

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Speaker 5: Bleckman and others have seen the light, not only when

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Speaker 5: it comes to the anti Semitic actions the guitar and

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Speaker 5: Jewish students, but just overall how radical these how woke,

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Speaker 5: and how radicalized these campuses are. I'd say donors don't

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Speaker 5: give money to their alma mater, if they teach people

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Speaker 5: to hate your values, and if you can talk to

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Speaker 5: your stalearmic or governor and tell them, unless there's diversity

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Speaker 5: of thought, don't give these university systems a penny at

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Speaker 5: taxpayer's money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, diversity of thought's important, but so is actual academic achievement,

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Speaker 2: right and intellectual rigor. And I think that's what I

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Speaker 2: think is really the damning aspect of it from a

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Speaker 2: national perspective, is we focus on rewarding the appropriate political

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Speaker 2: perspective and at the expense I think of actual academic achievement.

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Speaker 3: Richard, to you, what do you think?

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Speaker 2: It just gives me some examples of the way in

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Speaker 2: which some of the political raught eroded merit based achievement

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Speaker 2: in education, and what lesson can the rest of the

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Speaker 2: country take from what's happened in Florida where people have decided,

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Speaker 2: you know what, we're not just going to see this ground,

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Speaker 2: we're actually going to govern, and governing actually includes these

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Speaker 2: state run institutions.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a great question, Eric, And I think what

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Speaker 6: the hard progressive left have done in that forty to

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Speaker 6: fifty sixty years, and they've just become so skilled at it,

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Speaker 6: is they use terminology that we would all agree with

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Speaker 6: and say it's wonderful and it's great, and they use

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Speaker 6: it against us. So when they talk about free speech,

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Speaker 6: the definition is it's only their speech that's free. If

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Speaker 6: we want to engage in something they disagree with, they

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Speaker 6: silence us and camphosts and everything else. They want diversity, equity, inclusion,

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Speaker 6: wonderful terms, but that what they use it for is

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Speaker 6: to create no diversity and have no inclusion, to exclude

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Speaker 6: us from that conversation. They're very good at it. And

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Speaker 6: we had DEI at our school here in One of

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Speaker 6: the first things the trustees did was abolish the Department

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Speaker 6: of DEI, get rid of it the DEI coordinator, and

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Speaker 6: immediately for the fall admissions, we went up three hundred

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Speaker 6: percent in African American enrollment. We went up one hundred

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Speaker 6: percent in Hispanic rollment. There was no diversity on this campus,

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Speaker 6: and now we have pretty fairly the equal gender or

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Speaker 6: at least representative of the nation in gender male female.

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Speaker 6: Before it was you know, seventy plus percent femail. But

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Speaker 6: they use those terms and they use them against us,

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Speaker 6: And to your point, what it has done is significantly

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Speaker 6: decreased and downgraded the academic accomplishments of a university that

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Speaker 6: you'd want in your graduate So to Governor Walker's point

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Speaker 6: two and to Fear's question, I say to people all

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Speaker 6: the time, all your year, is that education is a

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Speaker 6: waste of money. You go, you take out a lot

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Speaker 6: of debt, you got a worthless degree. You shouldn't go.

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Speaker 6: And I tell everybody that statement is one hundred percent true.

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Speaker 5: I have six kids.

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Speaker 6: I would not send them to these schools. And now

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Speaker 6: after October seventh, we find out that not only is

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Speaker 6: the academics dombed down and you're completely in an intolerant environment,

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Speaker 6: but now it's unsafe. Now you can't walk across a

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Speaker 6: campus being a certain type of student without being physically assaulted.

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Speaker 6: And so you got to say, how do you fix

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Speaker 6: all of these things? Bill Ackman, as Governor Walker alluded to.

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Speaker 6: One is the pulling of money from donors and the

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Speaker 6: pulling of student applicants is going to be the biggest

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Speaker 6: cancel to these corrupt institutions. But Bill Ackman, in his letter,

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Speaker 6: which was wonderful, WHI should read it, he gave like

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Speaker 6: seven recommendations to the president. Four of the seven were

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Speaker 6: simply disciplined people for improper behavior. Have a rule on

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Speaker 6: your campus. It's that simple, and that's what we've done

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Speaker 6: at New College. It's due to rule of law, and

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Speaker 6: immediately you see a change in student behavior and outcomes.

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Speaker 1: It's very exciting what's going on in New College. And

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Speaker 1: Governor Walker, one of the things you're doing on campuses

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Speaker 1: across the country is when there are violations of the

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Speaker 1: rights of students, you're actually coming alongside the students and

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Speaker 1: you're suing these universities and you're actually winning in court.

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Speaker 1: You're holding these universities into account. Tell us about that.

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Speaker 5: Even in California, University of California, Berkeley, of all places, which,

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Speaker 5: by the way, anybody knows history the birthplace of free

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Speaker 5: speech when it comes to your education. Yeah, irony of Yeah,

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Speaker 5: trying to bring Ben Shapiro on the campus to speak.

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Speaker 5: And they didn't just block it outright, you know, obviously

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Speaker 5: they knew they couldn't do that. So what do they do.

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Speaker 5: They tried to say, you can't do it before three

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Speaker 5: in the afternoon, you can't advertise, and we're going to

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Speaker 5: charge the security fees that are you know, five or

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Speaker 5: six times when we charge other groups on the left board.

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Speaker 5: We went to court and said no, that unequal speech

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Speaker 5: is not free speech. And we went to court and

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Speaker 5: we wont. We actually prevailed. They had to settle because

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Speaker 5: even in California, the constitution still guarantees free speech. Now, sadly,

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Speaker 5: it shouldn't just be guaranteed in the constitution, it should

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Speaker 5: be revered on our college campuses. But we will go

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Speaker 5: not just for our students involved with the Young America's Foundation,

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Speaker 5: but any student on the right who's under attack. We

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Speaker 5: will go because we have to constantly push back. Or

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Speaker 5: as we've just been talking about the left, the left

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Speaker 5: is more than a liberal bias or even liberal indoctrination.

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Speaker 5: It is the radicalization of college campuses, and we have

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Speaker 5: to fight it head on all the time.

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Speaker 2: Why do we think that college campuses became so antisemitic?

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Speaker 2: I mean, how did anti semitism become go hand in

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Speaker 2: hand with wokeness?

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Speaker 3: Richard corkran.

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Speaker 6: I just think over the last decades, what we've done

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Speaker 6: is we've turned over the higher ed institutions to faculty,

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Speaker 6: and over time the faculty have become radically progressively left

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Speaker 6: at most institutions, and they control all aspects of higher education.

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Speaker 6: We call it. Shared governance is where all the institutions,

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Speaker 6: and of course it's the faculty, say we want shared governance,

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Speaker 6: we want shared governance. Their definition of shared governance is

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Speaker 6: they have one hundred percent control, and they really do.

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Speaker 6: Under shared governance, the president goes out and raises money

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Speaker 6: and pays the bills, and the faculty decide what faculty

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Speaker 6: get hired, what students get accepted, and what curriculum is taught.

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Speaker 6: There's no and then when the administration says, hey, we'd

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Speaker 6: like to maybe hire this person up firston now, they're like,

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Speaker 6: oh my gosh, you guys are fascist dictators trying to

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Speaker 6: take over our institutions. We've got to stop this higher threat. No,

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Speaker 6: because what shared governance, even if you had it in

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Speaker 6: a work it would be fifty to fifty. What we

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Speaker 6: have right now is one hundred percent. Shared governance is

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Speaker 6: controlled by hardcore left faculty and they're the most and

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Speaker 6: the ones that get involved and go to the deepest

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Speaker 6: levels and become the leaders and what have you. And

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Speaker 6: the Senate presidents all of them are the are the

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Speaker 6: most radical, and you have to you have to fix that.

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Speaker 6: In Florida, we have we said that universities. Colleges are

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Speaker 6: controlled by the board of trustees and they're appointee the president.

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Speaker 6: Now they can appoint someone else to help say, but

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Speaker 6: ultimately all of those key factors students enrolled, curriculum taught,

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Speaker 6: and faculty teaching are controlled by the board of trustees.

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Speaker 3: It's a game.

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Speaker 6: And the other the United States to do the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Well, we've been joined by Governor Scott Walker, head of

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Speaker 1: the Young America's Foundation. You can find them but YAF

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Speaker 1: dot org and Richard Corkran, the president of New College

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Speaker 1: of Florida, would encourage you if you have a student

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Speaker 1: age child, send them to New College, have them join yeaff.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back after this break. You have more to

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Speaker 1: talk about Hunter, Biden and other interesting topics. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back in a minute.

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Speaker 7: you know I'm a big Second Amendment proponent. Well, I've

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Speaker 7: It's legal in all fifty states, no permits, no backgrounds

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Speaker 7: shotgun round by Bernie, you put it in your own shotgun,

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Speaker 7: your own twelve gage. It cannot be shipped, by the way,

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Speaker 7: in this case to a handful of states, so you

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Speaker 7: got to check with their laws, Glinda, How good did

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Speaker 7: I look on the video?

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Speaker 3: First of all, I loved how you cleared the house.

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Speaker 1: I love the mission for and the video is up

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Speaker 1: on handita dot com. It's on Berner dot com. Forward

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Speaker 1: slash handity.

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Speaker 7: By the way, I actually I think the video up now.

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show on Peter Schweizer

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Speaker 1: with Eric Eggers. We just had a great conversation with

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Speaker 1: Governor Scott Walker and Richard corkran Boy. College campuses are

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Speaker 1: different than when I was in college.

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Speaker 2: Big time problems with anti Semitism at some of the

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Speaker 2: more liberal institutions.

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Speaker 3: He mentioned Harvard.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, Harvard's been in the news lot, Lady cal Berkeley

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Speaker 2: also previously considered one of America's great academic institutions.

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Speaker 3: They also have a little bit of an.

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Speaker 2: Anti Semitism problem. It's a story on Breitbart Today about

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Speaker 2: the fact that a California Berkeley class disinvited in an

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Speaker 2: a lot about Hunter Biden. So that's what we're going

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