WEBVTT - Layers of Marginalization

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to bokay f Daily with

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<v Speaker 1>Meet your Girl Danielle Moody recording from the Long Island Bunker. Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start off with saying that today's episode

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<v Speaker 1>was a very difficult one for me to record because

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<v Speaker 1>the pain and the despair that is happening within the

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<v Speaker 1>LGBTQ community, particularly those that identify as trans is unbearable, unimaginable,

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<v Speaker 1>and should not be happening in this country or any country.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been thinking a lot, you know, as we in

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<v Speaker 1>this new Christian fundamentalist, fascist state that we are all

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<v Speaker 1>coming to terms with. It's it's like waking up from

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<v Speaker 1>a nightmare and realizing that it is reality. Is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the place that I have been in, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know millions of people across this country have been in

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<v Speaker 1>since the decision by the Supreme Court for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time in the Supreme Court's history and modern times, to

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<v Speaker 1>be a body that takes away fundamental rights as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to providing or expanding on what it means to live

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<v Speaker 1>in the land of the Free. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>what a lot of young people, young women are facing

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<v Speaker 1>right now is a country that has become overnight, incredibly dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing that for those folks who are trans,

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<v Speaker 1>who are part of the lgbt Q community, their lives

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<v Speaker 1>have always been in danger right by virtue of just

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<v Speaker 1>having the audacity to show up in their body as

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<v Speaker 1>who they are, to be able to as my guest,

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<v Speaker 1>Jin will say, to be able to self direct, right

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<v Speaker 1>to self direct. And I thought about this as they

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<v Speaker 1>were speaking. Jin fam is the communications director at an

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<v Speaker 1>organization called the Transgender Education Network of Texas. So you

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<v Speaker 1>just imagine just by title alone, what Jin and the

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<v Speaker 1>people who work at TENT and other LGBTQ organizations in

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<v Speaker 1>the state of Texas and nationally are dealing with. And

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<v Speaker 1>it is the understanding that you have elected officials who

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<v Speaker 1>are telling you that you do not have the right

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<v Speaker 1>to dignity and respect, that frankly, you shouldn't even exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Gin will walk through the fact that the deaths of

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<v Speaker 1>trans people, the murders of trans people, have been up

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<v Speaker 1>in the date of Texas since last year when they

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<v Speaker 1>started to roll out all of these insidious, cruel policies,

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<v Speaker 1>ones that we've talked about on this show that criminalize

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<v Speaker 1>parents for caring for the needs of their transgender children

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<v Speaker 1>being able to access the hormone treatment necessary in order

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<v Speaker 1>for them to thrive. Right, you now have Governor Abbott

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<v Speaker 1>who has directed and already overwhelmed Child Protective Services Agency

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<v Speaker 1>to investigate, interrogate, threaten, and criminalize parents for caring for

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<v Speaker 1>their children because they have decided that what abuse looks

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<v Speaker 1>like is what we know to be love. Because when

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<v Speaker 1>your child comes to you and tells you who they

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<v Speaker 1>are and that they, without the ability to access these treatments,

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<v Speaker 1>will kill themselves, will harm themselves, what would any loving

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<v Speaker 1>parent do, right, What would any parent who actually believes

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<v Speaker 1>that their child should have the chance at a full

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<v Speaker 1>and complete life filled with happiness, joy, right, Deny them

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<v Speaker 1>that access, deny them that right. Well, that's what Governor

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<v Speaker 1>Abbott is telling you to do, because you see, in

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<v Speaker 1>their warped mind, Right, in these Republicans warped mind, they

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<v Speaker 1>have so much love and commitment and quote unquote passion

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<v Speaker 1>for the unborn. But fuck those that are able to

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<v Speaker 1>walk on two feet, crawl right, or breathe actual oxygen. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>then they don't give a fuck. And this is what

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<v Speaker 1>they tell us time and time again. Right, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about Oh, the overturning of Roe v. Wade

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<v Speaker 1>being a win for life. No, the fuck it is not.

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<v Speaker 1>How is it a win for life when you will

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<v Speaker 1>against all of the ways that people would be able

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<v Speaker 1>to protect their families, help their families, provide health and

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<v Speaker 1>education for their families, to be able to advance their families.

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans don't want to do any of that, and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't consider the inability to do so a problem. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's your problem. They're going to force you into creating

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<v Speaker 1>a family, but they're not going to help you care

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<v Speaker 1>for that family. No, they would then admonish you or

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<v Speaker 1>criminalize how you choose to care for your family because

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<v Speaker 1>your choice in this quote unquote free nation has been

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<v Speaker 1>taken away. You have no choice. That choice is dependent

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<v Speaker 1>on what state that you live in, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>are a queer person in this country, if you are

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<v Speaker 1>a trans person in this country, and don't happen to

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<v Speaker 1>live right now in a blue state. Because let me

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<v Speaker 1>just make it clearer, like I say every single week

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like now, is that our safety is in

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<v Speaker 1>fact an illusion. It is an illusion. And that is

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what jin fam will tell us later on in

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<v Speaker 1>the show Safety isn't real. Right. We love to pretend that, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>police keep us safe, but we know we have learned

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<v Speaker 1>the hard way that police do not keep us safe.

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<v Speaker 1>They keep themselves safe. They cover their own assets. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't protect and serve anyone that is outside of their

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<v Speaker 1>blue force field. Right, the blue shield of silence, the

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<v Speaker 1>blue code of silence. Damn those citizens, Damn those people

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<v Speaker 1>that need defending, like the poor children and teachers in

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<v Speaker 1>Huvaldi that were left to be slaughtered as police what

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<v Speaker 1>huddled outside their doors. I am, you know, at a

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<v Speaker 1>loss when each and every week we begin with a

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<v Speaker 1>hangover of the despair and the trauma that happened the

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<v Speaker 1>week before. This week already you have the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>making another unilateral decision in a six to three right,

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<v Speaker 1>deciding that a football coach in Washington State, which we

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<v Speaker 1>have talked about on this show before, who had been

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<v Speaker 1>warned by the public school that he was employed by

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<v Speaker 1>to stop his prayer meetings, right, to stop making such

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<v Speaker 1>a display on the fifty yard line after each game

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<v Speaker 1>to pray and have the students rush in and bring

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<v Speaker 1>his team in to pray for their victory. And how

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<v Speaker 1>this case was brought up by the parent of a

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<v Speaker 1>child who is atheist, who was on the football team

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<v Speaker 1>and felt like they had no choice that if they

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<v Speaker 1>did not pray with the coach, then they weren't going

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<v Speaker 1>to get going to get to play well. Neil Gorsich,

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<v Speaker 1>who wrote the opinion, said this quote. Both the Free

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<v Speaker 1>exercise and free speech clauses of the First Amendment protect

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<v Speaker 1>expressions like mister Kennedy's. Nor does a proper understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>the Amendments Establishment Clause require the government to single out

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<v Speaker 1>private religious speech for special disfavor. The Constitution and the

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<v Speaker 1>best of our traditions counsel mutual respect and tolerance, not

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<v Speaker 1>censorship and suppression for religious and non religious views alike.

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<v Speaker 1>So what the Supreme Court has done, after overturning Roe v. Wade,

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<v Speaker 1>after limiting your access to Miranda rights, has now decided

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<v Speaker 1>that there is no longer a line between church and state.

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<v Speaker 1>So how long before we have prayer or back in

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<v Speaker 1>schools because these teachers decide, well, it is my belief

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<v Speaker 1>that I need to pray before the start of each day.

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<v Speaker 1>And now your children in that classroom, and you, as

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<v Speaker 1>a parent or caregiver, have no right or legal standing

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<v Speaker 1>to object on because the Supreme Court just took away

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<v Speaker 1>that right as well. Another win for radical Christian ideology

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<v Speaker 1>and a loss for the rest of us. Each decision

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<v Speaker 1>is chipping away at democracy. Democracy is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>government that is run for and by the people, where

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<v Speaker 1>the people actually have a voice in voting actually matters,

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<v Speaker 1>except the nine people that are getting to make decisions

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<v Speaker 1>about which rights we actually get and which ones that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want us to have anymore, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who gives a fuck about one hundred year old precedent

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<v Speaker 1>or fifty year old precedent. They weren't elected by the

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<v Speaker 1>people and they have lifetime appointments. I created multiple videos

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<v Speaker 1>recently and I was on MSNBC where I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't even have Democrats opening up an investigation into

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<v Speaker 1>fucking Clarence Thomas and whether or not he's actually compromise

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<v Speaker 1>because of what we've learned about the back channeling that

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<v Speaker 1>his wife, Jenny Thomas was doing with Mark Meadows on

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<v Speaker 1>the day of the insurrection and days and weeks after.

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<v Speaker 1>We've never had an investigation into Brett Kavanaugh, and the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that the FBI had collected over four thousand tips

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<v Speaker 1>from people who said that Brett Kavanaugh is a sexual predator.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't looked into that. I just don't understand why

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<v Speaker 1>we even have these fucking rules and regulations and policies

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<v Speaker 1>on the books that say we have the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>remove people from their positions if in fact they are compromised.

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<v Speaker 1>If nobody's going to do the investigation into the compromise,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck do we have the laws for in

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<v Speaker 1>the first goddamn place, Because I'm pretty sure that even

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<v Speaker 1>if there was a hint of anything that was going

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<v Speaker 1>on with a justice that was appointed by a Democrat,

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans would have no fucking problem calling an impeachment inquiry,

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<v Speaker 1>turning that person into the poster child for corruption, and

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<v Speaker 1>forcing them probably to resign. But Democrats don't do any

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<v Speaker 1>of that. You have right now, right Joe Biden is

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<v Speaker 1>in Europe at the G seven conference, and he's speaking

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<v Speaker 1>out and talking about Oh, America is back, America is nowhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not going to be too long before the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the world snags the microphone from the mouthpiece

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<v Speaker 1>of America and says, who the fuck are you to

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<v Speaker 1>tell us about liberty and justice and freedom. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>even control your own goddamn country. You're sitting over here

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<v Speaker 1>in Europe and your Supreme Court just voted to put

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<v Speaker 1>women and people with uteruses back into the twentieth century. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even have voting rights in most of your

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<v Speaker 1>goddamn states that haven't been thwarted in some way by

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<v Speaker 1>Republican zealots. Right, Like, So, who is America in the

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<v Speaker 1>world right now? That's a question that other world leaders

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<v Speaker 1>are going to start to ask, as many of them

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<v Speaker 1>have offered their own like absolute disbelief and how quickly

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<v Speaker 1>America and our democracy is crumbling and are gonna need

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out if America goes down, who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be standing up for democracy in the world. As fascism

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<v Speaker 1>is taking hold across the world. We are focusing right

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<v Speaker 1>now on what is happening in Ukraine and the horrific

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<v Speaker 1>bombing of the shopping mall that they don't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't even fucking tally the death toll, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>how many people have probably perished. They couldn't even put

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<v Speaker 1>out the fire. But we can't put out the fire

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<v Speaker 1>that the Republicans lit with the election of Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty sixteen. American democracy is ablaze, and I wish

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<v Speaker 1>that Merrick Garland was paying as much attention to what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on in these United States as he was

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<v Speaker 1>to what is happening in Ukraine. I'm still waiting around, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>undering when the sense of urgency and the alarm clock

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<v Speaker 1>for the Democratic establishment is going to go off, because

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<v Speaker 1>if it isn't the Roe v. Wade decision, which by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, all they want to do is fucking fundraise

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<v Speaker 1>off of. And I'm still wondering why the hell there

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<v Speaker 1>was no strategy that was put in place when Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>had been organizing and playing site for the last fifty

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<v Speaker 1>goddamn years. Why is everybody caught off guard who's been

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<v Speaker 1>in leadership and been empowered and been in Congress for

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<v Speaker 1>fucking decades. Now I understand why the American people are

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<v Speaker 1>caught off guard because you thought that the people that

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<v Speaker 1>you elected would actually protect you. You didn't realize that

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<v Speaker 1>they were only going to be protecting themselves. And what

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<v Speaker 1>I am seeing that without direct opposition from the Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>Party and they're taking money from the same goddamn people,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, are y'all just on the same team? And

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<v Speaker 1>I have been hoodwinked bamboozled into believing that there was

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<v Speaker 1>actually a difference between Democrats and Republicans, because right now

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see one. I see Joe Mansion uttering the

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<v Speaker 1>same disbelief and clutching the same pearls that Susan Collins is.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I can't believe these justices lied to us. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd fucking lie to you, and you have the power

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<v Speaker 1>to hold them accountable for but you won't. So save

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<v Speaker 1>your fucking outrage for somebody that gives a shit, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure as I'll don't. What I know is that

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<v Speaker 1>each and every day in this country is getting worse

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<v Speaker 1>and worse. And I have friends that I'm in conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with that are waking up and they are sick, literally

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<v Speaker 1>becoming physically ill, not with COVID, but with despair. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have traveled, and I'm certain that all of you

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<v Speaker 1>have traveled around the world into places that have corrupt governments.

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<v Speaker 1>We're only going on vacation there, right, We pop in

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<v Speaker 1>and we pop out. But I can look in those

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<v Speaker 1>people's eyes and see that there is something that has

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<v Speaker 1>been put out, and it is their will because they

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<v Speaker 1>no longer have free will. Their will is dictated to

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<v Speaker 1>them by their government. That is exactly what is happening

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<v Speaker 1>in these United States. But we keep thinking that elections

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<v Speaker 1>are going to save us, and I'm telling you no, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for folks to get out into these streets

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<v Speaker 1>because these voting booths, once of Republicans take back power,

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<v Speaker 1>are going to look like you know those little games

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<v Speaker 1>that you use at the carnival where you are putting

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<v Speaker 1>in all of your money and the claw comes down

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<v Speaker 1>and it maybe it picks up something, but most likely

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't. That's how it's going to feel every time

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<v Speaker 1>we vote. Maybe they'll count it, maybe they won't. But

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats never stop asking you for your money. And the

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<v Speaker 1>question is where the fuck is the money going, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's sureance fuck is in going into messaging and branding.

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<v Speaker 1>I am very happy to welcome to okay F for

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<v Speaker 1>the very first time. Jim fam who is the communications

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<v Speaker 1>director and outreach manager for Transgender Education Network of Texas

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<v Speaker 1>or tent JINUM. I would ask you about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just casually, how are you, how are you doing these days?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you feeling about you know, our country and

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<v Speaker 1>your work. So I'll offer that up as a as

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<v Speaker 1>a as a jumping off point. For sure, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a weekend, I'll definitely say. And you know, with from

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<v Speaker 1>all the way from the leak back and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what is it may now like this has been

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<v Speaker 1>a reality for my state or even longer than that

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<v Speaker 1>I were talking about September since SPA dropped, and for

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<v Speaker 1>the folks of color and folks that don't necessarily have

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<v Speaker 1>great access to healthcare in general, if they're as SISS

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<v Speaker 1>or CIS, gender or trans or not. It's always been

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<v Speaker 1>really hard, especially here in Texas. So everything is going

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<v Speaker 1>not the best, but we've we've prepared ourselves for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time for this. So tell us about the nature

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<v Speaker 1>of your organization and the work that you all do

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<v Speaker 1>and how it has either changed or shifted. With the

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<v Speaker 1>myriad of anti trans bills that have originated out of Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>I call Texas and Florida the Petri Dish of the

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<v Speaker 1>radical right right. They are testing out just how far

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<v Speaker 1>they can go to push the LGBTQ community, but particularly

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<v Speaker 1>trans people back into the closet or to to criminalize

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<v Speaker 1>the very existence thereof and so tell us about how

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<v Speaker 1>what the work primarily is of your organization and if

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<v Speaker 1>and how it has shifted over the past couple of months.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, just to give a little bit of background,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about trans folks since marriage quality, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess even further than that, I would say, and especially

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<v Speaker 1>here in Texas, you know, with the bathroom bills that

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<v Speaker 1>came out gosh, five years ago, and they started talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it six or seven years ago. You know, we,

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<v Speaker 1>myself and a lot of my colleagues have been in

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<v Speaker 1>this mode of operation for quite a long time already.

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<v Speaker 1>If we were just to count last year's legislative session

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<v Speaker 1>last January, it's been eighteen months since we've been experiencing

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<v Speaker 1>these consistent cruel attacks. And I want to say that

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<v Speaker 1>the cruelty is definitely the point where we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>my members in my community who have been listening to

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<v Speaker 1>their state legislator talk about their right to live, their

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<v Speaker 1>right to dignity, their right to privacy, and their ability

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<v Speaker 1>to live a life that's self directed but also one

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<v Speaker 1>that is deserving of happiness, right you know. So TENT

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<v Speaker 1>is the Transgender Education Network of Texas, where one of

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<v Speaker 1>four trans led policy focused orgs in the country. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's only four words kind of like, you know, tackling

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<v Speaker 1>these attacks that are speaking from the voice of trans folks.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the last few months, we back in February

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<v Speaker 1>around the twenty second, the Attorney General dropped an opinion

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<v Speaker 1>saying that being gender affirming to children is abuse. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is still using the same language that reflected a

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<v Speaker 1>bill that was shot down last year. Following that the

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<v Speaker 1>governor let down a an order it for DFPS or

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Family Protective Services CPS, for anybody else

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<v Speaker 1>that might be listening, to start investigating these families right

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<v Speaker 1>going to their homes, their businesses, going to the children's schools,

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<v Speaker 1>just to see if child abuse is going right. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's definitely an obligation for CPS to investigate every single

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<v Speaker 1>report of abuse to a child or a person who

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<v Speaker 1>is elderly, right, so understand that as part of their job.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're also talking about an organization that's already stretched

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<v Speaker 1>soothin in a state that's so large, with one of

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<v Speaker 1>the largest economies, that have a large amount of folks

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<v Speaker 1>that are already struggling, right, and so you know, having

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<v Speaker 1>these investigations happen to families of my community members has

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<v Speaker 1>really put that stress really even further upfront. Right last year,

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<v Speaker 1>we had you know, a lot of young trans folks

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<v Speaker 1>and not barney folks, gender expansive folks argue with their

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<v Speaker 1>state leaders in either the testimony room or on the

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<v Speaker 1>floor of the Senate for their own dignity. And now

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<v Speaker 1>servants of the state are trying to keep it together.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. But so for the

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<v Speaker 1>last four months, a lot of families have been contemplating

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<v Speaker 1>their options of staying in the state to fight staying

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<v Speaker 1>in the state around you know, their support systems, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever financial way that they make money for their family,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the children's schooling. The list goes on of

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<v Speaker 1>either they leave the state or stay in the state

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to be around family. Right. But this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't necessarily afforded to every family because this privilege of

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<v Speaker 1>being able to move, it's not necessarily everybody's privilege. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, there are a lot of families who

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<v Speaker 1>do not have that option of leaving the country, leaving

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<v Speaker 1>the state and just have to stay here, bear with

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<v Speaker 1>it and fight with us, right, And so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>every year, especially this less six months has been really

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<v Speaker 1>hard on like a partner of ours, this Trevor Project,

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<v Speaker 1>who received one hundred and fifty percent rise on call volume,

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<v Speaker 1>And the Trevor Project is a mental health crisis line,

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<v Speaker 1>and that one hundred and fifty percent was just last year.

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<v Speaker 1>We're looking at two hundred percent here of calls coming

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<v Speaker 1>in from queer and trans community members who, UM are

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<v Speaker 1>finding it really hard to be able to exist at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, you know, UM, we had on I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it was maybe a couple of weeks ago or a

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<v Speaker 1>week ago, I don't know, time as a construct at

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<v Speaker 1>this time, UM, one of the legislative folks over at

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<v Speaker 1>the Trevor Project to talk about what they have seen

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<v Speaker 1>in this in this time, in this time of great

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<v Speaker 1>urgency in our community. Because for me, you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>a as a black queer woman, to recognize that the

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<v Speaker 1>world is unsafe for queer kids, and as a former teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>as a as you know, as a as a queer woman,

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<v Speaker 1>I think about how I am feeling attacked in this moment,

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<v Speaker 1>how I struggle, you know, to keep it together, to

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<v Speaker 1>feel like there is something to fight for, that that

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just done right, that that that our agency,

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<v Speaker 1>our freedom, our dignity, the respect that we have fought

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<v Speaker 1>so hard to get to this point is just reversed

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<v Speaker 1>because people have decided that we are undeserving. Right. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think about queer kids, and I think about the

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<v Speaker 1>fear of what it is like to be of school

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<v Speaker 1>age and to be going into school in an environment

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<v Speaker 1>where you have no reprieve, that there is no support

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<v Speaker 1>from your teachers or the administrators because of fear either

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<v Speaker 1>of being persecuted or because of the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>believe what Abbott believes. That they believe what the Republican

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<v Speaker 1>Party believes, and that their their care and for safety

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<v Speaker 1>of children only is about the cells in the womb.

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<v Speaker 1>They have nothing to do with what happens when you're

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<v Speaker 1>able to actually breathe oxygen and are this side of

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<v Speaker 1>a uterus. And so I feel you and when you

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<v Speaker 1>tell when you when you offer up the statistics and

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers with the Trevor Project, like, I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know what we offer. So what do you what

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<v Speaker 1>you know? I know that that you have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a constituency base of people who are thinking about what

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<v Speaker 1>they are going to do. If a majority of people

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<v Speaker 1>have to stay because they don't have the economic privilege

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to just pick and just I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even want to think about it as just the economic privilege,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you're born in Texas, you've lived in this

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<v Speaker 1>is your home, this is your state, this is your community,

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<v Speaker 1>and the idea that you are being forced out of

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<v Speaker 1>your community should be something that is It is outrageous

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>to all of us when people say to me, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they should just move, I'm like, so you just move.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you just move and pick up everything that

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you've ever known and moved to a different state. So

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<v Speaker 1>what does what does tent offer in terms of advice

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<v Speaker 1>or guidance to families that are suffering right now and

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 1>that they actually don't necessarily see light at the end

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 1>of this very dark tunnel that we're in. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to offer advice, but I can definitely offer a reminder that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we live in a state that is considered

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<v Speaker 1>the bloodiest state for trans people here in Texas. Right

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 1>we've consistently broken records around that. Last year, we broke

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<v Speaker 1>the records for the most anti trans legislations in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're also talking about an extremely powerful, loving and

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<v Speaker 1>caring community that has been based off of so many

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<v Speaker 1>amazing queer and translators that have been able to find

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<v Speaker 1>and create the ways for us to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>combat these forms of legislations, no matter if it is

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<v Speaker 1>around you know, abortion access or affirming healthcare access to

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<v Speaker 1>whatever that's been happening. We also must remember that this

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 1>fight has lasted longer than even I have been alive,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you know, there are so many people and

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<v Speaker 1>they all believe in what you know, the words that

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<v Speaker 1>Martha P. Johnson that's been staying with me for so

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 1>long is that if there's no pride for some of us,

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 1>until there's liberation for all of us. And so you know,

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>the team at Tent and all of our coalition members

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 1>are working around the clock to be able to create

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<v Speaker 1>and also be able to take care of ourselves and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone that we love, to be able to fight against

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<v Speaker 1>all everything that's happening. You know, we try to consistently

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<v Speaker 1>answer the question of like how it trans rights human

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<v Speaker 1>rights right, and when we say that, we mean that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when we're fighting for trans rights, we're also

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<v Speaker 1>fighting for repro We're also fighting for the migrants. We're

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>also fighting for water access right, because all of those

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:28.719
<v Speaker 1>things affect trans people and people in those spaces that

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>we've been coming into contact with partnering with, they understand

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that their fight is also going to support trans folks,

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<v Speaker 1>So that we really need to be able to recognize

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>that there are so many people, so many organizations that

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>are fighting for themselves but also your kid, but also

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 1>for me right and supporting them and understanding that the

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>way that we get through this is together. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that, And it sounds like you all partner

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of organizations, probably not just in your

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>state but around the country, how do you think that,

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<v Speaker 1>in this moment of great urgency and crisis, that we

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 1>have more integration of all the topics that you said, right, Like,

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 1>what I think what the radical right does so well

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 1>is force us into a barrel right like craps that

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<v Speaker 1>we're fighting for this. We're fighting for voting rights over here,

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 1>we're fighting for LGBTQ rights over here, we're fighting for

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 1>trans rights over there, we're fighting for repro rights over there.

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>But like you're saying, all of these things are layered,

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<v Speaker 1>and what it comes back to is power. And when

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>you understand that what the radical right is after is

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 1>power and complete and total control and autonomy over everything,

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<v Speaker 1>right that that is no longer a democracy. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think would get people to movement leaders to organize

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that is more integrated than it has.

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<v Speaker 1>These conversations with other organizers and organizations always comes back

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<v Speaker 1>down to the point that when we're talking about supporting

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<v Speaker 1>everyone is understanding that it is not a sheet to

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<v Speaker 1>cover the whole population in but is to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to recognize the differences that we all hold. Right, like

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<v Speaker 1>as a queer and transient person right here in Texas

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<v Speaker 1>is the third most spoken language, but most state universities

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily teach it. Right, That's just still an example

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<v Speaker 1>of like understanding that those experiences has been able to

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<v Speaker 1>bring together so many folks in those intersections in between

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<v Speaker 1>all of our identities, those layers of marginalization that you mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>Understanding is this is about race, this is about class,

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<v Speaker 1>is about gender, this is about sexuality, this is about ability,

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<v Speaker 1>and understanding that many of these institutions are based off

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<v Speaker 1>of hurting folks that are marginalized or controlling folks that

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<v Speaker 1>are marginalized. So recognizing those differences and recognizing the institutions

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<v Speaker 1>that we have to interact with a day to day basis.

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<v Speaker 1>Is also the ability to know what has been done

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<v Speaker 1>about it already, what hasn't worked, and what will work,

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<v Speaker 1>and what has worked in the past and what will

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<v Speaker 1>work now is if we do it all together. And

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<v Speaker 1>understanding that pushing together for that progress doesn't come with

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<v Speaker 1>sacrifice or compromise. Is understanding that we are on the

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<v Speaker 1>right set of history and finding together requires everyone to

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<v Speaker 1>understand that liberation must be there for all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you a question Jen that is

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<v Speaker 1>a difficult one because it is a question about safety.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you stay safe in a state that has

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<v Speaker 1>targeted not I mean because I always find, as a

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<v Speaker 1>person that has done movement work across varied movements for

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<v Speaker 1>over a decade, that it is very hard to separate

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<v Speaker 1>the personal from the professional. And so how do you

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<v Speaker 1>manage both fighting for yourself the rights of your community,

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<v Speaker 1>and like maintaining your emotional, mental health and well being.

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<v Speaker 1>At this time, I think safety is an idea. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's something we can definitely thrive for and seek,

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<v Speaker 1>But we've got to understand that the thing that we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, even risk reduction for example, is that you

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<v Speaker 1>can make it safer, right, and making it safe for

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and the ones around you is a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>achievable and a lot easier to be able to have

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<v Speaker 1>yourself on the back about when it comes to day

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<v Speaker 1>to day is you know, being able to take care

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<v Speaker 1>of yourself during these moments really requires more people, which

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<v Speaker 1>has been extremely difficult in the last two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half years throughout the pandemic. But understanding that there are

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<v Speaker 1>communities all the way from discord to Facebook groups, from

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook groups to what's App's chat rooms. Being able to

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<v Speaker 1>share your pain and holding it together and holding space

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<v Speaker 1>for others pain as well, has been able to give

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<v Speaker 1>me that solace that many of us seek, that community

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<v Speaker 1>space that many of those seek, right, I think together.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're a day before the Stonewall anniversary, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's also a national HIV testing day, right. But it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't just one person, and it wasn't just one day.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so many people, thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions,

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of millions across the world of people who to

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<v Speaker 1>say I love you to one another, and being able

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<v Speaker 1>to take care of one another when you can't and

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<v Speaker 1>being able to say like, hey, I don't have it

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<v Speaker 1>in me today. I think you saw this a lot

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday was like today, we rest, tomorrow we fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Like everybody has a line in which you got to

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<v Speaker 1>understand that, like self care is like paramountain moments like

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<v Speaker 1>this because it's a marathon. It's been a marathon. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you've seen in the last two and ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a marathon. And you know, while you're getting water,

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<v Speaker 1>a teammate can pick up the slag and carry Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not because they have to, but because they want to. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think community is really important right now, Jen, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to thank you. I want to thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for the work that you do. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for making the time to come and share

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<v Speaker 1>the work that you're doing and words of hopefulness to

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<v Speaker 1>the woke a f audience, and you know, I really

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<v Speaker 1>I wish you rest so that you can continue a

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<v Speaker 1>very righteous fight. And we appreciate you so thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate all so much too. I'm so lucky for

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<v Speaker 1>this opportunity to be speaking with you, so thank you.

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