1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: Donald J. 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: Trump's leadership. 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: I'm Christy nom the United States Secretary of Homeland Security. 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: Under President Trump, attempted illegal border crossings are at the 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: lowest levels ever recorded, and over one hundred thousand illegal 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: aliens have been arrested. If you are here illegally, your 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: next you will be fined nearly one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: and deported. 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: You will never return. 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: But if you register using our CBP home app and 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: leave now, you could be allowed to return legally. 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: Do what's right. Leave now. 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: Under President Trump, America's laws, border and families will be protected. 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security. 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 4: You're representing him, and now you're working on a professional 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 4: career as well. Right at the point where he's about 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 4: to come back. 23 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 5: Exactly Wow, and the agent you took a test to 24 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 5: think test right, Okay, so you become an agent. You 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 5: said that he doesn't get an extension, right, So now 26 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 5: he's a free agent at that point in time. 27 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 6: So yeah, one more year on this contract, which was 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 6: an option year. 29 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 7: Yeah he played that. 30 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 6: Yea, that would have been the twenty two to twenty 31 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 6: three was his option year. 32 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, so he took the option. He played, and then 33 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 4: we saw traded traded to Dallas. 34 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 7: But he got traded mid season. 35 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he got traded. But so as that process 36 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 4: is happening, that's on the court. But Nike, I mean, 37 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 4: this is a premier athlete. Like we went over, there's 38 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 4: obviously Jordan and Jordan Brand and then it's Kobe and 39 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 4: then it's like Lebron Kai kd. What are those conversations 40 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 4: like because this is one of the premier athletes, his 41 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 4: uncle Drew, this is the top selling shoe. 42 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: Kids love it. 43 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 6: His shoes were still selling. At the same time the 44 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 6: shoes were still selling. We were in conversations, well, we 45 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 6: hadn't really started at that point about what the next 46 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 6: steps would be, if he was going to remain a 47 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 6: signature athlete or not, in what way they wanted to 48 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 6: continue that. We hadn't even started that yet his shoes were. 49 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 7: So they're definitely on board, We're. 50 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 6: Already I wouldn't say they were fully on board. I 51 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 6: think that internally, like within every company, everybody had issues 52 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 6: with there were people that were, I'm pro vaccination and 53 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 6: people that were I'm anti vaccination, and so I think 54 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 6: that probably within and I don't know this to be true, 55 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 6: within those Nike walls, there were people that said, Hey, 56 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 6: you're forcing me to get vaccinated, but you have a 57 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 6: signature athlete that isn't vaccinated. What kind of messaging is 58 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 6: that sending. So I'm sure you know everybody, it was 59 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 6: a full coal time for every company, just having the 60 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 6: conversation about vaccine versus non vaccination. 61 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 5: So he makes it through that and now he's playing 62 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 5: for the nets, and then something else happens. So he 63 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 5: shares a link to a documentary and that causes another 64 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 5: firestorm and he gets suspended indefinitely. And okay, so now 65 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 5: NBA punishing the broken nets, punishing them. But now the 66 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 5: Nike situation starts to unravel because now Nike at some 67 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 5: point steps away from him. Right, was he up for 68 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 5: a new contract or did they just terminate the current contract? 69 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 5: He was up for a new contract. It just so 70 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 5: happened out timing was at the same time at the 71 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 5: same time, So they didn't technically terminate him. They just 72 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 5: didn't knew They did nothing essentially, Yeah, to extend that 73 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 5: contract essentially, how was okay? So how was that? That 74 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 5: was another obviously very high profile news story. How was 75 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 5: that for you and for him going through that? 76 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 6: I think what he wanted and perhaps what he would 77 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 6: have wanted from Nike, I don't know if Nike would 78 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 6: have been able to give it to him, because he 79 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 6: wanted a lot more creative control, he wanted a lot 80 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 6: more equity, he wanted higher commission, like there were there 81 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 6: were things that he wanted that I honestly think that 82 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 6: just was not within Nike's ecosystem to provide or to give. 83 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 4: So, regardless of the situation it was Nike, he still 84 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 4: not might have been home for you guys anyway exactly. 85 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 7: Yeah. I think he tweeted and said that he didn't 86 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 7: like to shoot they had put. 87 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 4: Out it was a deniging, uh the Eights. 88 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, but how but how was the from getting suspended? 89 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 7: How is that dealing? Once again? Now you gotta deal 90 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 7: with the Brooklyn nuts, you gotta deal with the NBA. 91 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 5: He had to go meet with the commissioner and a 92 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 5: bunch of others, tough community service and different things at HLA. 93 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 5: How is that because he just went through something previously 94 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 5: with COVID, now he's going something going through something completely different, 95 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 5: but another thing less than a year later. 96 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 7: So how was that for you guys going through that difficult? 97 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 6: It was. 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An MS thirteen gang member from El Salvador 133 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with 134 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just 135 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President 136 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: Donald J. 137 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: Trump's leadership. I'm Christy Nohm, the. 138 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: United States Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted 139 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: illegal border crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, 140 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: or one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If 141 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: you were here illegally, your next you will be fine 142 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: nearly one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned and deported. 143 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: You will never return. 144 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: But if you register using our CBP home app and 145 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: leave now, you could be allowed to return legally. 146 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: Do what's right. 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Maybe ever right you're talking 155 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 4: about that the shoe contract negotiation and be a contract negotiation, 156 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 4: suspensions world, pandemics like all that's happening in your first year. 157 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 4: So we're at the point where you know, we're looking 158 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 4: at from a financial standpoint, and some of the things 159 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 4: that you want from a shoe deal, it's. 160 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 7: Not going to happen. Perhaps that night. 161 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 4: Are other shoe companies reaching out and offering because I 162 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 4: know we land and we'll get to that. Are other 163 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 4: shoe companies reaching out and saying, this is a prize 164 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 4: free agent. From an athletic endorsement standpoint, we should go 165 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 4: ahead and try to sign them. 166 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 6: Initially, we wanted to go independent, okay, And we had 167 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 6: a lot of conversations with being a real independent shoe brand, 168 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 6: and I sort of made the decision collectively with his 169 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 6: dad that that probably wasn't the best route because building 170 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 6: a shoe and building a performance shoe on the court 171 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 6: where his feet are your most valuable asset, was something 172 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 6: that we were just really worried about from just being 173 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 6: an dependent brand, just having all of the resources, the 174 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 6: tools and everything to make sure that his feet were protected. 175 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 6: We want him to have a very long career, and 176 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 6: so we didn't want to jump out and say, hey, 177 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 6: we're going to do this independent and we produce a 178 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 6: shoe that just couldn't. 179 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 5: Stand well you did you ever look at the big 180 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,479 Speaker 5: ball of brand and what happened with that as something. 181 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 4: That was as you said, that study, because I mean 182 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 4: they said that, I don't know if it's true or not. 183 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 7: Shout out to Lonzo. 184 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 5: He came to investments, but they say one of the 185 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 5: reasons why he's hurt is because of the shoe. I 186 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 5: don't know if that's true. 187 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,599 Speaker 7: It broke down. I don't know. 188 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 6: I don't know, and you know, I don't I just 189 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 6: I think that when you think about performance and the 190 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 6: way he moves in the angles in which he moves 191 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 6: on the court. And remember I talked about, you know, 192 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 6: your research and you study, being independent and just basically 193 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 6: producing a shoe that can achieve that mechanism was something 194 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 6: that we all were really concerned about. There's something that 195 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 6: you can kind of build a plane while flying it. 196 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 6: This wasn't one of them, and this was one of 197 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 6: them that we just didn't want to take that that 198 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 6: that chance on and that's just being honest. 199 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 4: So you end up with at Edna right, No, Ante, 200 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Answa. And so this is interest it because 201 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 4: this is now I'm looking at this as a global play, 202 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 4: right like they have at the time. Well, Dwayne Wade 203 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 4: was there. Who's who's at Uh Clay Thompson, That's what 204 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 4: it was. Are you watching how he's structuring his deal 205 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 4: and and looking at this is completely independent. We want 206 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 4: to have a global brand. This is a company that 207 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 4: I think we can partner with. 208 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, So we took the time to kind of figure 209 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 6: out what did we really want an a shoe deal. 210 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 6: So before we even you know, when it was Nike 211 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 6: was done, it was like, what is what's important? So 212 00:11:55,160 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 6: it was creativity, it was price point, quality, products of 213 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 6: other things. And so when we started to have the 214 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 6: conversations with Anton a few other companies, it was really 215 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 6: about us creating our own contract because we didn't want 216 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 6: something that was really a traditional contract where it was 217 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 6: like you just get royalties and you get a base 218 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 6: commission and you walk away. We wanted something that had 219 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 6: a lot more ownership for us because we knew that 220 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 6: once we put Kai in the lab, we knew what 221 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 6: he was going to create. At the end of the day, 222 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 6: we wanted something that gave us real equity, that gave 223 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 6: us a real opportunity to control the narrative and do 224 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 6: something really different. We wanted something that was international, and 225 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 6: we wanted something that we could also use as a springboard. 226 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,239 Speaker 6: So we knew that in China his shoes were very successful, 227 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 6: So it just made sense right when we looked at 228 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 6: if we thought about what part of the world were 229 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 6: his number one sales, it was China. So we immediately 230 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 6: kind of stood there and said, what can we build 231 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 6: here and expand? 232 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 233 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador 234 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with 235 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just 236 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President 237 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: Donald J. 238 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 2: Trump's leadership. I'm Christy Noman, the. 239 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:32,359 Speaker 1: United States Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted 240 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: illegal border crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, 241 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: and over one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. 242 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: If you are here illegally your next you will be 243 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: fine nearly one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, and deported. 244 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: You will never return. 245 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: But if you register using our CBP home app and 246 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: leave now, you could be allowed to return legally. 247 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: Do what's right. 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