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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go.

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Speaker 4: And the kick as Black Look College Football Laura Stundus.

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Speaker 2: Good, Oh my goodness, he stumbled.

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Speaker 1: And fob the lateral turn A carter of the.

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Speaker 2: Job, don't you. The lad.

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Speaker 3: Came up the veil the nights.

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Speaker 2: By god, it's not the sage of the dog in

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Speaker 2: the fight.

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Speaker 1: It's the sage of the fight in the roll. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Bet MGM. I'm Mike Calvary's joined by Brett McMurphy

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Speaker 1: and Colin Wilson. And this is our Heisman Special, which

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Speaker 1: means two things. The culturable seasons right around the corner.

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Speaker 1: And if you scroll through our podcast feed, all ten conferences,

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Speaker 1: including the SEC for a two episode special have been

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Speaker 1: covered in depth. Every single FBS team win, totals, odds

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Speaker 1: to win the conference, odds win national championship. We get

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Speaker 1: into all of it and there's over I think fourteen

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Speaker 1: hours of audio that you can go through. You can

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Speaker 1: also find us over at YouTube as well at the

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Speaker 1: Action Network. So I'm going to pitch it to Colin

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Speaker 1: for you first, as someone who's made it through the

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Speaker 1: off season voyage at this point, week zero can't get

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Speaker 1: here any faster. How are you feeling? Where are you

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Speaker 1: emotionally for the season right around the corner?

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Speaker 2: I feel great.

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Speaker 5: I got the chance to go through the three podcasts

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Speaker 5: that I wasn't a part of. Specifically, I think everybody

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Speaker 5: should go back and review what you guys did, the

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Speaker 5: work you did with the AAC because we could spend

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Speaker 5: another hour on Trent Delfer, probably maybe some Hall of

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Speaker 5: Fame BBOC type stuff. I'm feeling good about the season.

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Speaker 5: I thought that those other three podcasts were excellent. Download

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Speaker 5: them all, download them twice, listen once.

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Speaker 2: It's so good.

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Speaker 5: And I made a tweet last night about it at CALGARYES,

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Speaker 5: I said, listen, if you're not listening to the MAC Preview,

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Speaker 5: everybody out these people will do another content will come

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Speaker 5: out and say take these top two teams from the

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Speaker 5: MAC boy. I tell you what, BBOC has got a

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Speaker 5: different story about what goes.

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Speaker 2: On in that conference.

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Speaker 5: So all of our podcasts, I would say, download them

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Speaker 5: and listen because it's stuff you're not going to get

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Speaker 5: anywhere else.

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Speaker 1: Now, Brett, I feel like you've been the number one

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Speaker 1: newsbreaker in the industry. You've been, you know, ahead of

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Speaker 1: the game on these schools, playing musical chairs, breaking the

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Speaker 1: Washington and Oregon story to the Big Ten, anything else simmering?

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Speaker 1: Any side eye emojis that you'd like to put out

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Speaker 1: here on the podcast, or do you think they'll be

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a calming of the seas at

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Speaker 1: least during the fall.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is coming out on Monday. We're taping it

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Speaker 4: on Friday. Excuse me, tak Yeah, today's Friday. I don't

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Speaker 4: even know what day it is. When Colin's saying, oh,

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Speaker 4: I'm great, I'm all arrested, I feel like I've made

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Speaker 4: this comparison for I feel like one of these pre

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Speaker 4: cogs on Minority Report, where I'm I ain't in a

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Speaker 4: bath of water, and instead of predicting who's going to

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Speaker 4: get murdered, I have to predict who's going to change

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Speaker 4: a conference. And I just want to get to the

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Speaker 4: end of the movie where I'm out on the coast

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Speaker 6: By the time this airs, we may have a resolution

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Speaker 4: August fifteenth, so that's Tuesday or Wednesday, check your calendar.

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Speaker 4: That's the deadline for the schools to leave the ACC.

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Speaker 4: So we could hear some announcements from Florida State, Clemson,

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Speaker 6: I'm not reporting that.

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Speaker 4: That's just my opinion that obviously could change over the weekend.

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Speaker 6: Musical chairs instead of eyeballs.

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Speaker 5: It should be Brett tweeting out an emoji of golf

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Speaker 5: because last year he was golfing at Pebble at all

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Speaker 5: hell broke loose in college football realignment. This year, him

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Speaker 4: All I know is yeah, I tweeted out the googly

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Speaker 4: and that was related to conference realignment and everyone asking me,

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Speaker 4: you know, in the slack channel, Brett, what is it?

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Speaker 6: I won't tell anyone, and Collins texting me, going, is

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Speaker 4: To get down on somebody, And I'm like, dude, I

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Speaker 4: It wasn't meant to like I wasn't meant to like,

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Speaker 6: But it's just like I've got but I can't go

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Speaker 4: That was quite a big experience. Richard diet, the media

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Speaker 4: reporter for the Athletics, sent me a pretty cool tax.

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Speaker 4: He goes, imagine that you went from breaking news on

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Speaker 6: What a world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I imagine the film outro is just you collapsing

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Speaker 2: Like that to that effect.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully it will calm down for you. We can

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Speaker 1: going to talk about football this upcoming season, and we're

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Speaker 1: going to start with the Heisman Trophy odds. So I'm

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Speaker 1: value plays, long shots. I know this is a quarterback award.

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Speaker 1: but he's at twelve to one as his Quinn Eewers

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Speaker 5: Interestingly enough, I'm going to start off the podcast with

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Speaker 5: I don't know who, if anyone, was going to throw

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Speaker 5: this out, but I do have a Drew Aller ticket

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Speaker 5: in my portfolio.

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Speaker 2: I have a forty to one.

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Speaker 5: That number still exists out there, especially in parts around

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Speaker 5: Penn State, so definitely shop around, but consensus is about

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Speaker 5: twenty five to one. I mentioned this on the Big

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Speaker 5: completions last year. It was a limited sample size behind

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Speaker 5: Schop Clifford, but you know he has everything that you

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Speaker 5: need a five star rating. He's the number three overall

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Speaker 5: He wins those, This is a winning ticket if he

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Speaker 5: makes it to the College Football Playoff. You don't have

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Speaker 5: to win the national title. Penn State doesn't have to

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Speaker 5: after the end of the regular season in the conference championships.

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Speaker 5: I think a one lost Penn State could possibly get

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Speaker 5: Drew Aller the Heisman consideration, especially if they make the playoff,

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Speaker 5: fact of what Sean Clifford, how he progressed under offensive

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Speaker 5: He became a competent quarterback, which he wasn't the two

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Speaker 5: twenty five to one is out there for Drew Aller

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Speaker 2: If you have a national title, maybe pass on this.

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Speaker 5: But if you have a college football playoff to make,

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Speaker 5: like I do, I put an additional bet on Drew

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Speaker 5: Aler to win the Heisman.

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Speaker 1: I have two follow ups there. First go to Brett.

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Speaker 1: This is just an insight baseball kind of question for me.

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Speaker 1: When do you generally cast your Heisman ballot? And do

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Speaker 1: you get a feel for your voters that you work

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Speaker 1: with that they wait until the eleventh hour or do

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Speaker 1: if they can't wait to fire that vote in, Like,

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Speaker 6: I mean there still are.

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Speaker 4: People that vote, probably even before the conference championship games.

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Speaker 4: I hate the mand it, but they're probably are right.

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Speaker 4: I wish the Heisman Trust would reveal that information or

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Speaker 4: kick those guys out from voting because they're literally five

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Speaker 4: thousand people vote for it now. I do think people

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Speaker 4: most people hold their ballot until till after the conference

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Speaker 4: championship games. You know, I think you know again.

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Speaker 6: There, I don't. I don't think there's good value on anybody,

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Speaker 4: I guess this will be a short pod for me.

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Speaker 4: You'll kick me because I just think it's a it's

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Speaker 4: a it's you're playing the lottery.

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Speaker 2: There's there.

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Speaker 4: Into the season and say this guy is going to

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Speaker 4: be it, you know, Joe Burrow. I mean, we can

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Speaker 4: You couldn't say that. So I think the the Heisman

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Speaker 4: Everyone says, well, there's great value on this running back

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Speaker 4: It's become who is on one of the Like Collins said,

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Speaker 4: So look for teams you think that can get to

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Speaker 5: I think to add on to that caliberies is that

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Speaker 1: about that that read, Colin? Do you think I'm viewing

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: I know that value on the board in August is

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Speaker 1: Clemson has to win two more games.

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Speaker 1: Wow with the voters. Do you see that as still

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Speaker 4: It's funny, and we didn't talk about this before we

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Speaker 6: You know, Jordan Travis Arcade, and you know, I exactly

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Speaker 1: I mean you, And for that reason, I bought myself

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Speaker 1: I think there's a ton of value there is. Is

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Speaker 1: that something that you've also.

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Speaker 5: Done at one hundred to one, Yes, but the number.

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Speaker 5: When I was shopping for Heisman back this summer and

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Speaker 5: the strip have on Garrett Nusmeier. The arm is there,

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Speaker 5: the talent is there, the knowledge of the offense is there.

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Speaker 5: The coaching staff backs him and loves him. If there's

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Speaker 5: a deterrent. Jade Daniels came back into camp. I think

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Speaker 5: with fifteen more pounds of muscle on him, he's not

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Speaker 5: going to get hurt running the inside zone. He was

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Speaker 5: pretty beat up by the time they got to their

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Speaker 5: and Jade McDaniel's out and Nussmeyer comes in and wins

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Speaker 5: that game against Florida State. That one hundred to one

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Speaker 5: one of the reasons, right, you got two quarterbacks that

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Speaker 5: think Joe Milton can make it to the end of

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Speaker 1: I think Nico may be the starter by the end

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Speaker 1: be putting I'd put like a half unit on Jayden

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Speaker 5: I put a half unit on nus Meyer too. Like

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Speaker 1: Going to compete for the Heisman, you might want to

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Speaker 1: All right, let's hop back in to my favorite part

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Speaker 1: of this discussion, because there's generally a long shot that

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Speaker 1: gets to New York. Obviously, this is an award that

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Speaker 1: goes to quarterbacks more often than not, quarterbacks that start,

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Speaker 1: you know, twenty to one sub twenty to one in

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Speaker 1: this award, and I agree in regards to Kyle McCord.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Accord may not be the starting quarterback, it is

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Speaker 1: still neck and neck at least that's the way Ryan

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Speaker 1: Day is portraying it. I am following with incredible interest

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Speaker 1: have at Twitter this summer. And Devin Brown's right there

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Speaker 1: wearing number thirty three for slinging sandy ball. I like

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Speaker 1: the guy at eighty to one. The fact that he's

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Speaker 1: still sitting there at eighty to one, I think presents

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Speaker 1: value because when you look at what Ryan Day has

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Speaker 1: The average numbers average forty two hunderd passing yards just

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Speaker 1: touchdown to pick ratio of forty five to six. If

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Speaker 1: he wins this job overnight, he's fifteen eighteen to one.

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Speaker 1: The value is going to dry up instantly. This is

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Speaker 1: leg parlay. I gotta win the job, I gotta win

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Speaker 1: the Heisman, and I'm gonna put out something else. In

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Speaker 1: terms of their schedule, tasty opening. They get Indiana, Youngstown

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Speaker 1: State no disrespects of the Penguins, and Western Kentucky. He

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Speaker 1: then they have great opportunities for marquee wins at Notre

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Speaker 1: at Michigan element to me, the perceived bump of breaking

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Speaker 1: the two game losing streak. I think that's really where

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Speaker 1: even if he does doesn't have asthetistically a dominant season

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Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy. Eighty to one. I'm interested. This ticket could

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Speaker 1: week if they named Kyle McCorry the starting quarterback. But

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Speaker 1: I can't resist at eighty to one, Colin, I see

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Speaker 1: now a long Do agree with me?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I love these to get to New York bets.

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Speaker 5: Rip to my Desmond Ridder fifty to one to get

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Speaker 5: to mention the long shot that I like. I don't

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Speaker 5: but I definitely think that he has a seat on

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Speaker 2: If you guys go listen to the SEC.

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Speaker 5: they don't win the West, he could still put up

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Speaker 5: gaudy numbers that can be good enough for him to

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Speaker 5: And this is a guy that watches practice tape of

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Speaker 1: Frank Gore Junior is not going to New York. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Auntie's not going to go to New York.

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Speaker 1: Frank Gore Junior is not going to go to New York.

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Speaker 1: But quin John Judkins absolutely can. I think if Old

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Speaker 1: if you haven't listened to the podcast, but to go

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Speaker 1: If I had to pick a running back that's gonna

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Speaker 1: to be there. Just a quick follow up there, which

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Speaker 1: be more bullish on him winning the dope maybe getting

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Speaker 1: goal line touchdowns from him. Is it a similar situation

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Speaker 1: to somebody who's a little bit more of a dual threat.

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Speaker 5: I could see I could see games turning into shootouts,

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Speaker 5: that is a that is one of the you know,

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Speaker 5: the Gundy plays out there that I've seen Spencer Sanders

654
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Speaker 5: run for years. So maybe that's better than Jackson's dart.

655
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 5: I'm not really sure. I've seen swing passes out of

656
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 5: darts game. So maybe Spencer Sanders is the quarterback that

657
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 5: you want to be there if you got to quinch

658
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 5: on Junkins's ticket.

659
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Speaker 1: Anybody a long shot quarterback or you know, just dipping

660
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: your toe into the other positions, Brett, I know that

661
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: it's kind of sacrilege, but is Harold you know who's

662
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: the outside linebacker for LSU, the freshman Harold cut working year. Yeah,

663
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: I mean I would need like three hundred to one

664
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Speaker 1: for a defensive player to even get interested. And I

665
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: know that he's sitting at about one hundred and fifty

666
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: to one. That's probably not rich enough for your blood.

667
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: But any long shot on the board that you like prep.

668
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if you can find to get to

669
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Speaker 4: New York. I mean, I don't know what the numbers are.

670
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Speaker 4: If you guys have them, let me know. Rock Bauers

671
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 4: to get to New York, I think would be a

672
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 4: very solid play because the narrative of him last year

673
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 4: was he was one of the best players in the country,

674
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Speaker 4: but he was a tied end.

675
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Speaker 6: And you look at Georgia's schedule. You guys have talked

676
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Speaker 6: about it.

677
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 4: Double digit favorite in every game projected going into the season,

678
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Speaker 4: they're going to go twelve and zero. He's gonna have

679
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 4: a lot of big plays. He doesn't he doesn't have

680
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 4: to have monster numbers because again, Heisman voters, they look

681
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 4: for numbers, but they also love good stories and the

682
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 4: narrative about all these quarterbacks are winning this. There will

683
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 4: some you know, some columnists from some you know national

684
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 4: outlet will ride a white It can't brock Bowers win

685
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 4: the Heisman, and then he'll get all this support, and

686
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 4: it's a great story, and it'll just go on and

687
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 4: on and on, and Georgia will roll through the schedule.

688
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 4: Georgia meets the qualification as a team that will be

689
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Speaker 4: in the conference championship game.

690
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Speaker 6: And you know, I think.

691
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Speaker 4: With beck being coming in at quarterback, I think Bowers

692
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 4: will get a lot of a lot of love and

693
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Speaker 4: Heisman voters will have a good story. And I think

694
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 4: I don't think he can win it, but I think, yeah,

695
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 4: tell me he's going to be one of the four

696
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 4: or five the New York I'd absolutely take a flyer

697
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 4: on that.

698
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know that, well, Mike jumping on the whole.

699
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 5: Like defensive player, I don't think you can. I don't

700
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 5: think you can bet on defensive player to make it

701
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 5: to New York, but you can vote on to make

702
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 5: it to New York. And if there was a defensive

703
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 5: player to make it, it wouldn't be Harold Perkins. For me,

704
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 5: it would be Kooley McKinstry.

705
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Speaker 1: Oh.

706
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Speaker 5: He does a lot for Alabama and special teams, but

707
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 5: also he is the leading defensive in the nation coming

708
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 5: in this season eighteen forced in completions, he had sixteen PBUs.

709
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 5: Like I said, he's a contributor on special teams. He's

710
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 5: gonna be mister everything for Bama in that secondary where

711
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 5: kool Aid lines up, quarterbacks are going to go away

712
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 5: from and shout out to his bling sec Media day,

713
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 5: Holy cow, he had the whole kool Aid chain going on.

714
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: It was great.

715
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Speaker 5: But no, if you could find a kool Aid McKinstry,

716
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 5: which I believe he's about three hundred to one in

717
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 5: the Heisman market, so I'm gonna say, you know, I

718
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 5: don't know, eighty to one, seventy five to one. If

719
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 5: you can find something like that, I mean, go skip

720
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Speaker 5: on your Guaca Chipotle or just spend your whole Chapoti

721
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 5: ball on that, because that would be a fun bet.

722
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting you bring up him being kind of

723
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: a Swiss Army Knife for the Crimson Tide because I

724
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: think Travis Hunter gets more of that love in the

725
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: offseason with Colorado, there's this feeling that they need a

726
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: little extra pop on the perimeter. He'll be involved in

727
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: the return game, you know, if he gets five or

728
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: six picks. But they're not going to win six games

729
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: this year, whereas Alabama, it's very easy to imagine them

730
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: at least getting to Atlanta and playing in the conference

731
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Speaker 1: championship game.

732
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Speaker 2: So I like that play.

733
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Speaker 1: Outside of defensive players, is there anybody else that's a

734
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: long shot on your board that you think has value

735
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Speaker 1: either just to be a finalist or to win the award?

736
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Speaker 5: Out Right, I believe I've talked way too much about

737
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 5: Dante Moore in our podcast.

738
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: Right.

739
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 5: We haven't even seen him take a snap in college football,

740
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 5: but I keep hearing that the game is easy to him,

741
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 5: and I keep hearing that there's no drop off from DTR.

742
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm really excited to see.

743
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 5: I could not put money down, no matter how high

744
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Speaker 5: the number is. I think one hundred and fifty to

745
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 5: one on Dante Moore. I'm not sure I could do that,

746
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 5: But what I would be interested if I was going

747
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 5: to do a long shot Tanner Mordecai. I can absolutely

748
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 5: sling the ball, and he's in a Phil Longo offense.

749
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Speaker 5: I don't know if the offensive line is going to

750
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Speaker 5: be able to pass a blog for him. I don't

751
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 5: know if you're going to be able to sling in

752
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 5: twenty degree weather in Camp Randall in November. All I

753
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 5: know is is there's a good passer there and there's

754
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 5: an up tempo, four verts offensive coordinator, and Tanner Mordecai

755
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 5: is about a one hundred to one on the board,

756
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 5: a long shot that one's got the ingredients.

757
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I have.

758
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: Bigger concerns about them on the perimeter. It's because at

759
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: SMU it wasn't like he had an elite secret Service

760
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: level protection from his front five. But yeah, the perimeter

761
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: weapons at Wisconsin, that's the question. You know, Rashie Rice

762
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: last year just made it a lot easier for him

763
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: to run that offense. But yeah, I agree Phil long ago.

764
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: You have to look at who are the players who

765
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to accumulate the stats. And in some cases,

766
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: you know, really good teams, they get pulled early, they

767
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: get pulled in blowouts, they're not playing full four quarter

768
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: games all throughout their non conference schedule. I don't think

769
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the case with Wisconsin. So he certainly

770
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: could be in the running for that September Heisman. You

771
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: know someone who steams out with huge stats a la

772
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: Gino Smith at West Virginia. You know about twelve years

773
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: ago now dating ourselves, But I do think he's an

774
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 1: interesting play and if you have an opportunity to maybe

775
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: cash out at that point before he gets into the

776
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: heart of Big ten play. That could be interesting. Any

777
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: final thoughts, Brett on the upcoming season for college football.

778
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: Now that we are at the end of the road

779
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: or minor to our audience, that we've done a pre

780
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: you for all ten FBS conferences. That means we've touched

781
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: all one hundred and thirty three FBS programs win totals

782
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: for all of them conference title odds except for a

783
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: few teams that are ineligible task to the NCAA. James Madison,

784
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: Jacksonville State, Sam Houston State, let them cook, let them,

785
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: let them get a chance to win in year one.

786
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: But if you listen in, we have ways to bet

787
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: on every single team. So I'll kick it back to you, Brett,

788
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: who do you like here in terms of, you know,

789
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: not necessarily a play, but a team that you're most

790
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: excited to see either in week zero or week one

791
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: if you want to flip on your TV and really

792
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: get up to speed on a program, see how they're

793
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: working here in twenty twenty three.

794
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 4: Well, I want the LSU Florida State game is going

795
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 4: to be fascinating, and you know Colin says he likes

796
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 4: Ellis Shoe to win the national title. Then they can't

797
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 4: lose that game because that means if they lose that game,

798
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 4: they've got to run the table. And I don't think

799
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 4: that's realistic. I don't think that's realistic for Florida State either,

800
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 4: that they can't run the table. And that's what sucks

801
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 4: about the four team playoff is you have these months

802
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 4: games and the loser is behind the eight ball. You know,

803
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 4: next year we won't have to worry about that when

804
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 4: we go to twelve teams. So I'm psyched about that game,

805
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 4: you know, in real quick Going back to Heisman, we

806
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 4: didn't talk about him, but one thing that I would

807
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 4: wager on concerning the Heisman Trophy if you can find it,

808
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams not to win the Heisman Trophy. Because what

809
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 4: happens is when you win the Heisman Trophy and you

810
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 4: return the voters. I'm not talking about me, but the

811
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 4: other people that vote, including Colin Wilson, they look at

812
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 4: not what you do this year, but what you're not

813
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 4: doing that you did last year. If you have three

814
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 4: hundred yards, three tds and a pick, everyone's you know,

815
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 4: analyzing Why did they throw the interception? I think because

816
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 4: they somebody wins it the year before, everyone wants to

817
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 4: tear them down the heisman. Voters want a new story,

818
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 4: they want something fresh. Nothing against Kleb Williams. I just

819
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 4: think it's he could have better then last year and

820
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 4: he's not going to win it, so I would stay

821
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 4: off of him and look elsewhere.

822
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 6: But you know he'll have the.

823
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,959
Speaker 4: Opportunity with the Pac twelve being so good. But again,

824
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 4: I just think they'll beat each other up and that

825
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 4: will kill his chances as well.

826
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: Other than Navy catching twenty and a half in the

827
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: opener in Ireland, what are you most excited about Colin

828
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: here in week zero Week one.

829
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 5: I don't think Florida International is going to wear the

830
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 5: Miami Vice uniforms on the road against La Tech.

831
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 2: I hope they do. I will say that I can't

832
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: even believe I'm saying this because the number is steaming.

833
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 5: I've I've had my eye on it at ten and

834
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 5: a half. It's a number that I make down around six.

835
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 5: I think there is going to be some buyback on that.

836
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 5: I shouldn't even be talking about Florida International here at

837
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 5: the very beginning of the season against La Tech.

838
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 2: But that's where we're at with week zero.

839
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 5: I'm sure Stucky and I will have more opinions on

840
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 5: him when we get closer to that, but I'm really

841
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 5: looking forward to a depleted Trench and a depleted secondary

842
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 5: of San Diego State going up against an exclusive quarterback

843
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 5: and wide receiver that Ohio has. I would encourage everybody

844
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 5: to go out and listen to Mike's Action podcast that

845
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 5: he cut with Ianello and Stucky. It's excellent. That is

846
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 5: a banger. In week zero, I absolutely expect Ohio to

847
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 5: get into San Diego State's secondary. I was told specifically

848
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 5: at Mountain West Median Days to stop betting on San

849
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 5: Diego State overs. Don't think I could help myself in

850
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 5: week zero. Just a bit of housekeeping here for our audience.

851
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 5: If you've been listening in all preseason, you got all

852
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 5: ten at the conference previews at your fingertips. You now

853
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 5: have your Heisman episode here, and we have a few

854
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 5: more before we get into week zero. We have our

855
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 5: preseason Best Bets episode where we'll wrap up all of

856
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 5: our best futures and win totals. We also have our

857
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 5: Action Network All American team and then we get into

858
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 5: the G five Week zero, and then the full episode

859
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 5: of Week zero with Colin and Stucky. So we're gonna

860
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 5: have you covered from every single angle coming in the

861
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 5: next about two weeks here leading right up to the

862
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 5: college football season. We've made it through the arduous, long

863
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 5: desert like off season here at college football.

864
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: We're here, and I couldn't be more excited, to be

865
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: honest with you.

866
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: At this point.

867
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: It is going to be so exciting to get into

868
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Speaker 1: the weekly grinds. You know, those recap videos, the you know,

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