1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: Thick and thin. If I roll them both up and 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: let go, which one do you think will unroll fastest? 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: Think about it? 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: All right, you got your answer, Let's see if you're right. 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: Three two one, Hey, what do you know? 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 2: It's a time. 7 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 3: Good good morning, sweet world, and welcome to another No 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 3: Dunk's podcast on the Athletic Network. Today's episode brought to 9 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: you by Neutral Vodka Seltzer made with real vodka, Real 10 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 3: Seltzer and real juice. It's Neutral, the one with the umlaut. 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 3: It's Wednesday, March eighth, twenty twenty three. 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But were your 59 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: takeaways from another Monster Embiid game here and the Sixers 60 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: continuing to. 61 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: Win schedule loss they say, no, thank you. Five game 62 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: road trip here they went four and one in a 63 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: seven days back to back. A few of us figured 64 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: Joel Embiid, who recently said that I should be sitting 65 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: out weeks, as the doctors told me He's coming and 66 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: playing every single night back to back. Yeah, forty plus 67 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: the night before, then thirty nine in a game where 68 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: they got separation in the second quarter and then that 69 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: third quarter where Embiid was a twenty two in that quarter. 70 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 2: My goodness, the threes raining down, and it's it's funny 71 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: how every star, every NBA players got selective memory. Rudy 72 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: Gobert said after the game. You know, he started hitting 73 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: threes and then they took me out, and then then 74 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: he really went off. He was just he was going 75 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: off all night, Rudy, every every single play, it didn't matter. 76 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: There's nothing else to say other than Maxi obviously helped out, 77 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: you know, subbing in for James Harden who was sitting 78 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: this one out. But really it was an MVP performance 79 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: by Joel Embids. It's as simple as that. The guy 80 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: was just a monster. If he's banging home going four 81 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: to four from three plus doing whatever he wants inside 82 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: the lane, I mean he's serious. He's serious about this, 83 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: this MVP trek. Even if he doesn't he claims he 84 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: doesn't want to be, as he told Chris Hanes after 85 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: the game, he wants it. He definitely wants it, and 86 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: he's showing it by playing almost every single night, in 87 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: every single game here, even during a tough sled where 88 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: he says he's injured. 89 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was just a dominant performance by Embiid. On 90 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: one side, Gobert couldn't stop him, and go Beart still, 91 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: even if he's taken a step back this season, a 92 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: really good defender, and then offensively, go Beart had nothing 93 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: for Embiid. He could not even really think about scoring 94 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: after the first couple of minutes there. But we've talked 95 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: a lot about the Sixers' schedule and how tough it's 96 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: going to be for the last fifteen games of the season, 97 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: how much they're on the road, all the good teams 98 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: they have to play. Maybe that's a silver lining because 99 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: if Joelle Embiid can find out a way to line 100 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: up games against former Award winners, he might win MVP 101 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: because once he sees another big name on the schedule, 102 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 1: he circles it and he wants to go out and dominate. 103 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what he did last night. I also 104 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: think an important win for the Sixers after getting a 105 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: no defense win against the Pacers, to come back and 106 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: really play solid defense against the Timberwolves. Since January first, 107 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: the Sixers are second in offense, great they score all 108 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: the time, but only twentieth in defense. Last night, though, 109 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: they held the Timberwolves to thirty nine and a half 110 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: percent from the field, their lowest performance of the season, 111 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: and Minnesota only scored forty two points in the paint. 112 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: They're eighth in the league. They averaged fifty four a game. 113 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: And Beid was locking it down inside and then obviously 114 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: dominant offensively as well. 115 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, he said four for four from deep, also nine 116 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: for nine at the line. He is now a perfect 117 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: twenty eight for twenty eight from the free throw line 118 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: over his last two games. Here and Stattitude says the 119 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: only other center in NBA history to make at least 120 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: twenty eight free throws without a miss over span of 121 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: two games is Moses Malone, who hit thirty over a 122 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 3: two game span in nineteen eighty seven. So, yeah, he's 123 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 3: knocking those down at the line. He's next to unstoppable. 124 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: And he's hitting the three pointer there. Yeah, Rudy. Rudy 125 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: is like, I'll come out, I'll try to, but I 126 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: can't come that far. We almost have to live with 127 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: you shooting that. And he was banging them thirteen for 128 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: twenty two overall. They ended the first half on a 129 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 3: monster run and then pushed it up to like, what 130 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 3: did it get up to a nearly thirty point lead, 131 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: the Sixers did over the Wolves and then ran away 132 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 3: with this And now that's their nineteenth road win this season. 133 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: Nineteen and twelve on the road for Sixers here, so 134 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: two upcoming home games and then you said it before, 135 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 3: tasks seven of their next eight on the road. But 136 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 3: they have like the fourth best road record in the league. 137 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: They're one of the elite teams on the road, so 138 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 3: probably not too afraid of going out there and having 139 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: to string together some more wins to try to you know, 140 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: leap the Celtics or even somehow catch the Bucks there 141 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: who's creating a little bit of space at the top of. 142 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: These Yeah, they have four more losses than the Bucks, 143 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: so it will be tough to catch them. There is some 144 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 2: hope for them to catch the Celtics. They do have, 145 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: as you said, just as an elite road record as 146 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 2: those teams, which is really really impressive. Here, they just 147 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: beat on this five game road trip, the Heat. They 148 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: snapped the bucks sixteen game winning streak, that Pacers fun 149 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: game where they allowed one hundred and forty three points, 150 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: and then the Minnesota Timberwolves, who have been playing solid enough, 151 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: they had one three straight. The most impressive thing to me, 152 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: and why I always kind of questioned the Sixers team, 153 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: is that when they went up big in that second quarter, 154 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: they got that fifth, they had that fifteen ozer run 155 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: to go into half time. They always take their foot 156 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: off the pedal always, they always do, and they really 157 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: crushed them in that third quarter. That was just a 158 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: crushing as you said, got up big, and yeah, holding 159 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: a Wolve team that doesn't have a great offense. Let's 160 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: be honest, they kind of win with defense. They're sort 161 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: of the opposite of the Sixers. But in this game, 162 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: they really couldn't get anything going. And Doc said it 163 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: and Tray said it. The points in the paint was 164 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: where they stopped them. 165 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 3: Really, let's spin that embiid MVP worthy performance into the 166 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: MVP debate here, because yesterday we had ESPN analysts Kendrick 167 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: Perkins and JJ Reddick getting into a heated MVP debate 168 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: over racial bias. On first take, I believe it was 169 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: that the show they were on there yesterday going nuts, 170 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: and then this had Twitter popping off, everybody sharing their 171 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: opinions on what the conversation those guys were getting into 172 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: on first, take the MVP debate in general. Has it 173 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: gotten out of control? So we had to hear all 174 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: of your opinions as well. Why not will be the 175 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 3: last ones to the dance here? But what'd you think of, 176 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 3: you know, either the discussion Perk and JJ were having 177 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: or just what's going on here with fifteen to twenty 178 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: games left for your three front runners in Jokic, Embiid 179 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: and Yannis. 180 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: In the conversation, heated is the right word. I mean, 181 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: it's really getting heated right now. A lot of fights 182 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: about basically everything except for what's happening on the basketball court. 183 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: I thought Kendrick Perkins actually made some really solid points, 184 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: even if he didn't necessarily have the lightest touch when 185 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: he was doing it. Sure, I do think there probably 186 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: is a little bit of an implicit bias in advanced 187 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: statistics and how much more they factor into MVP voting 188 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: these days, just because you know, advanced stats by and 189 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: large come from mostly white front offices and that's kind 190 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: of how they filtered down into NBA media. You also 191 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: look at the fact that Jokic likely is gonna win 192 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: his third MVP straight this season. That's an anomaly. Also 193 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: won an MVP on a sixth seed last year. That's 194 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: also an anomaly. But then with regards to this season, 195 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: he's having his best season. He's the best offensive player 196 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: on the best team in the Western Conference, and they're 197 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,599 Speaker 1: maybe the best offensive team in the league. So I 198 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like it's kind of hard to 199 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: I mean, em beat as an MVP player this season 200 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: as well. Giannis is an MVP player this season as well. 201 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: But k also deserves it this season, just like he 202 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: has the past couple of seasons. The problem is he 203 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: shouldn't have won last year. He shouldn't have he was 204 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: a sixth seed, but everybody gave it to him because 205 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: he was better his MVP season. I was personally honest. 206 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: That being said, I don't know. I was happy to 207 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: see JJ and Kendrick Perperkins kind of squashed the beef 208 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: afterwards because I think they realized we probably took this 209 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: a little overboard, considering we're just talking about basketball awards. 210 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: Maybe, Yeah, it was wonderful at the end of it, 211 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: and Molly Kurham said, I wish we had a big 212 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: group hug because they just yeah, we're basically said, I 213 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: like how Kendrick perkinsaid, JJ, thank you for coming on 214 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: and addressing the elephant in the room, and that's how 215 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 2: they ended. The first comment by Kendrick Perkins about Steve Nash, 216 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: Dirk Noovitski, and Nikola Jokic being the only MVP winner 217 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety to be outside of the top ten 218 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: in scoring essentially because they're white, was wrong and Nash, 219 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: let's look at what happened in these years. Nash revolutionized 220 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: the game. Everybody's copying that offense. Dirk was on a 221 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: sixty seven win team, and Yokic won that first one 222 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: because he's just damn awesome. But the context isn't fun right. 223 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: The pretext gets all the headlines. Context is for losers. 224 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: Nobody wants nobody wants to actually look into what was 225 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: going on there. Of course there's bias. I think the 226 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: biggest thing that's happening right now is a winner like Jokic. 227 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: It is about the advanced stats, and that's just different 228 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: the way Kendrick Perkins is looking at it. It used 229 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: to be more about straight up storylines, straight up best 230 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: player on the best team. Yeah, well, of course, of course, 231 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: yeah that that that's a big part of it. Uh And, yeah, 232 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 2: there is definitely the jump from the six seed to 233 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 2: the one seed is different. Last year is is where 234 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: you could have not given it to them. I get 235 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 2: that that's totally true as far as this season goes, though, 236 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: the more NB jumps in, the more I think that 237 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: helps Yannis because there could be a a an MB 238 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: versus Jokic. Let's look at the numbers, let's look at 239 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: the rankings. Default, who's the best player in a series 240 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: that you bank ono? So I do think though that 241 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: the stats thing is kind of changing the way we 242 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: look at m VP. Just all of the stats for 243 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: the for this for this particular year here a guy 244 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: winning three in a row is it's very rare, but 245 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: it could be unless we swing the pendulum back the 246 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: other way. Just best player on the best team. Uh. 247 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: And Yokic is not going to be on the best team. 248 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 2: Most likely he's gonna be the best team in the 249 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: Western Conference. 250 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 3: But it's close. 251 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: Has a few games back. 252 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you said it, you slipped it in there. I 253 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: mean this, this is definitely feels more heated this year, uh, 254 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 3: for for a bunch of reasons. And it's okay, by 255 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: the way to acknowledge that racial bias exists in Jokic 256 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 3: could be to you still deserving an m VP. Those 257 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: can both be true, absolutely, but it's the criteria used 258 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: for m VP, and I think Kendrick was trying to 259 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 3: make this point. The goalposts seem to get moved, and 260 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: who is moving them? Majority of white voters in this 261 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: It feels like this is Perkins saying this. That can 262 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 3: also be true, and we just get into this. What 263 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 3: is MVP? What does it mean to you? 264 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: The vote post change for you, for me, for everybody 265 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 2: just votes on what they want. 266 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, your definition of the most valuable. But Perkins, he 267 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: kicked off this specific argument last week when he said, 268 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: you'll Kich was stat padding. I don't even think we 269 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 3: addressed that comment on this podcast because that, to me 270 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: was like, what are you talking about of any guy 271 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: in the league. I think he's the opposite of stat padding. 272 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 3: I don't know about that really. How whoever shoots he never, 273 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: I don't wouldn't a stat pattern would be someone that shoot. 274 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: Disagree he's stat padding his his feel goal percentages, like 275 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: he could take as many shots as EmpId if he 276 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: wanted to, and he would shoot Basically the same percentage 277 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: as of meat. He would start taking worse shop. 278 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 3: But maybe he would if if we haven't seen that 279 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 3: every time he gets a triple double, which means he's 280 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: playmaking the way he plays and all that they win. 281 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: And if the whole point is to win, why wouldn't 282 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 3: you continue to do on fourteen shots a game and 283 00:13:58,480 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: obviously a ton of assists and take. 284 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: Care of them. 285 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 3: That's the part I don't get. 286 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: Oh, it's different ways. It's honestly different ways. The field 287 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: goal percentage factor is huge into advanced stats and people 288 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: talking about EFG and all this kind of stuff. If 289 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: you want a guy who's a takeover player, it's not Jokic, 290 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: but it could be. We see him take a ton 291 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: of shots when it comes to playoff time. He just 292 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: doesn't do it during the regular season because that's not 293 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: his style. 294 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: What do you think about that? The stat padding call 295 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: out from Perk that TK sees a little truth in that. 296 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 3: I was perplexed by. 297 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: I don't think he's padding stats. I think that's how 298 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: he sees winning basketball played. Now, I mean I compared him. 299 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: We discussed. The only injection into this MVP conversation we 300 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: really had was I did a little short comparing him 301 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: to Steve Nash because Nash didn't want to shoot. Yoki 302 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: shoots way more and Nash one of his biggest regrets 303 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: is not shooting as much. And he would have loved 304 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: to look him back be a little bit more steffish 305 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: and when he comes down to the playoffs, that's where 306 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: it will really bring true. Like if Jokic wants to 307 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: win games, if he's gonna shoot and lower that percentage, 308 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: I just think he knows how to win and he 309 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: just takes the shots when he needs to. It is great. 310 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: Like he shoots the three to four shots a quarter, 311 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: he doesn't shoot a ton. It is well, but they 312 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: went they're in the first seat. 313 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: Lebron did it too. Like as Lebron got further and 314 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: further into his career, specifically with the heat, remember like 315 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: he would stop taking three pointers because it wasn't a 316 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: good shot for him. He would only take him when 317 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: they were wide open. He was working on being the 318 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: most efficient player he could. That's what Jokic is doing too. 319 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: It is good. I mean, being efficient is a good player. 320 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: But look what Yannis did at the start of the 321 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: season with drew in and out of the lineup, Middleton 322 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: missing a bunch of time. He had the biggest usage 323 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: rate of his career and some of the worst numbers 324 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: of his career. When we're saying has Giannis fallen off? 325 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: Can he not carry a team anymore? Jokic could definitely 326 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: do more from a scoring perspective. 327 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: What do you think about this tweet from HB Basketball 328 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: Matt Moore said, quote, You'll Kitch literally not wanting to 329 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 3: win the m VP is reason enough not to vote 330 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: for him. I felt the same way about sixth Man 331 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: for Igodala. If a player doesn't want it, don't vote 332 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 3: for him. They should have the choice to opt out, 333 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: and You'll Kitch has made that desire clear. End quote 334 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: from Matt Moore. There, That one caught me by surprise. 335 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: What do you think if a guy so wi fi 336 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: give it to another guy? I don't hate. 337 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 3: Fine, I guess you could just sort of on record. 338 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: I mean a lot, I mean part of it he 339 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: actually does want Yes, yeah, I mean a lot of 340 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: these guys like the natural thing to say is yeah, 341 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't care about m vps. I want 342 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 3: to win games. I mean, that's that's the most cliche 343 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 3: like sports answer across all sports of all time, and 344 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: it should be in a weird way if you want 345 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 3: to be like a leader and it's like it is 346 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: about winning games. But I'm with you TK like they 347 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: want they want to win MVP, especially if winning MVPs 348 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: because the stats who do helps your teams win games? 349 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 3: Goes hand and in a hit. But what do you 350 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: think if he doesn't want it, let's move off of him, 351 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: tests don't give it to him, or now we're gonna 352 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 3: spike give it to him. 353 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 2: He doesn't want it, sure, I don't know. If he 354 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 2: doesn't want it, then yeah, don't win so many games? 355 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: I guess is the problem. Listen, if if you want 356 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: to just be a basic best player on the best team, 357 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he's coming for it. I was wrong. 358 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 2: He is a lot. They are a lot closer to 359 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: the top. They're only one game back of the bucks 360 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: than I expected. But it's it's a fun debate to 361 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: have because there is no definition. Best player on the 362 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 2: best team is too simple, too boring. But that would 363 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 2: be jestakumpo right now he's third. 364 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 3: Best player on the best team. It irks me. And 365 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 3: here's why. If your team is ten games clear of 366 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 3: the next best team in the league if you're a 367 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 3: sixty seven win team, like. 368 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 2: I said, your criteria. 369 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: I know, I know, I'm just pointing this out, Like, 370 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 3: but this best team when the teams are like fifty 371 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 3: two wins and fifty one wins and fifty wins, I mean, 372 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 3: it's like you're not a clear cut best team in 373 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 3: my opinion, You're all just good teams. Seriously, that's where 374 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: making dark. Winning sixty seven that's like, okay, that's an 375 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 3: incredible amount of regular season wins, you know, and much 376 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 3: better than the next team that then I can sort 377 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 3: of get behind. But like that, this like criteria gets 378 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: thrown out the window. To me, when all these teams 379 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 3: are basically the same record wise. 380 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: They're similar, you know, they're gonna end up at like 381 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: a fifty seven to fifty eight win team, fifty nine 382 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 2: win team. Those are big numbers. Yeah, the narrative is 383 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 2: way more fun and honestly, Annison Jokic have very similar 384 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: narratives that Middleton was has been out and has not 385 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 2: been himself for a lot of the season. They've had 386 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: lots of injuries, and Jokic the same with Jamal Murray 387 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: and Michael Porter has been out for nearly half the 388 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: seas and so they've they've got fun stories. But I 389 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: can understand there's just this. It's it's the number one, 390 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: it's the fatigue to vote a guy three years in 391 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: a row. I think Perk kind of implied that as well. 392 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: It's just it doesn't happen, hasn't happened for a long time. 393 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 2: M hmm until now. 394 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: Right, and he's he's white. Suddenly we're like, well, where's 395 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 3: the voter fatigue that we usually talk about. That's you know, 396 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: and you may be a fair point from Perk. 397 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 2: Now, but the numbers and the way we look at 398 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 2: numbers and the way voters look at numbers is changing. 399 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: I mean, look, I'm guilty in pre season podcasts here 400 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 3: going there's no way this guy can win a third 401 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 3: MVP unless there was an unless they have the best 402 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 3: record in the league and he has a better year 403 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 3: than he did the year before in terms of the numbers, 404 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,959 Speaker 3: and I guess averaging a triple double the efficiency like 405 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 3: and it just seemed far fetched that would be the case. 406 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 3: But he's done it, and it hasn't done it. 407 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: So and I think the pendulum miss swinging from a 408 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: guy who won on the sixth seed to a top seeds, 409 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 2: it's gonna to somebody way higher in the standings. It's 410 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: just hard to It just doesn't happen very often. It's 411 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 2: an anomaly that a guy won in the six seed. 412 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 2: Westbrook did it. The next year after Westbrook, it went 413 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: to James Harden in a one seed, So I think 414 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 2: that's a part of it as well. Voter fatigue for 415 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: low seeds that exists. 416 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 3: I think one of my favorite tweets about this whole 417 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 3: thing Jay Caspian Kang. He says, quote, I think the 418 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: NBA fan base does a good job with ranking players 419 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 3: according to their relative greatness, and MVP awards are a factor, 420 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 3: but they're not everything. So Jokic could win three MVPs 421 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 3: and if the Bucks win the title, let's say this year, 422 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 3: there isn't a single person who will say Yokic is 423 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 3: greater than Yannis, you know what I mean. He went 424 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 3: on to say, I only bring this up because there 425 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 3: seems to be some conflation between one three MVPs and 426 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 3: current greatest player, which Jokic basically needs to win the 427 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 3: title to even be in that conversation. And he thinks 428 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: Kang does most fans, I imagine feel this way. I 429 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 3: agree with that. It's like how I fell about Steve 430 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 3: Nash too. The back to back MVPs. You could bait 431 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: whether he deserved both of them, probably not. There was 432 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 3: cases for Shack for sure, and he is still I 433 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: think correctly like ranked because he never won a title, 434 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 3: didn't go on to get the big one like that's 435 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 3: and and so that that bumps you down in the 436 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 3: you know, grand scheme of things. And I think that's 437 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: totally fine to get back to back MVP winner. There's 438 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 3: only what nine of them in NBA history, But that 439 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 3: doesn't mean Steve Nash is the ninth greatest player of 440 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 3: all time, Like far from it. It is my favorite 441 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 3: player of all time. So I just thought that was 442 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 3: a good point. But maybe that's too nuanced. I don't know, 443 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 3: it is wild. Yeah, what a debate we keep going 444 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: for hours. I know people have been going off in 445 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: the stream team since we posted this show, weighing in 446 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 3: on the MVP discussion. Is it We don't have a 447 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 3: real vote, of course, but like, is it still up 448 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 3: in the air to you? Oh yeah, yeah? As to 449 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 3: who will get this to who. 450 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: It all comes down to March twenty seventh. 451 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: Okay, Johannest can't even he can't even snatch this. 452 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I would like to think so. Uh yeah, 453 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: when you're kind of widely agreed that you're the best 454 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: player in the league, you're not winning MVPs. That is 455 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: a little weirdo to me. 456 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 3: But that's happened across It all goes back generation. 457 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan should have won six straight MVPs when he 458 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: was playing, but they gave one to Barkley. They gave 459 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: one him alone, uh, because of voter fatigue. But I 460 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: think I think that March twenty seventh game six Ers Nuggets, 461 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: that's a huge, one, huge, big narrative game. 462 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 3: Right around the corner. Now, all right, let's keep it going. 463 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: Don't worry. We'll be talking more about the m v 464 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 3: P race. 465 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: And we'll be talking more about Nuggets when it comes 466 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 2: to tweet tonight, not the not the basketball team. 467 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 3: Food. 468 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, a lot of them. I hope you don't 469 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: have eating fatigue. 470 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: I do not, I do not at all. I ate 471 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: so many pistachios last night. I'm still full ridiculous, Like 472 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: salt pepper. I was like, I'll have a couple of 473 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: these couple thousand. I was so ready. 474 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 3: What do you do when you find one that's a 475 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 3: tough one to crack? 476 00:22:54,640 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: You give one try? Nope, sorry, maard it to the game. 477 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you have to crack everyone because oh yeah, yeah. 478 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: Well I mean some of them. The nut meat falls 479 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: out on its own. Yeah, and that's just like a 480 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: manna from heaven. 481 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 3: The nut meat. I've never heard it called that. 482 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: That's what our friends Trader Joe's called him, right, but 483 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 2: really it's on the package, doesn't say that Joe I 484 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 2: did a wild one, all right. 485 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 3: Powell Gasol, guys, he became the twelfth Lakers player to 486 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 3: have his jersey retired last night. Did you catch any 487 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: of this either live or the highlights? This morning? Had 488 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:32,719 Speaker 3: the ten minute or so? 489 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: Uh six, I was just sick. Well six minutes of 490 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: his speech, that's all I watched. Okay, six minutes. Great 491 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: to see him. He cleans up real nice. Great to 492 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 2: see uh Mark. I haven't seen Marcus Sool in a while. 493 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 2: I think Audrey Gasol was also. 494 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 3: People were pointing out he didn't dress up enough. 495 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: For some Oh I didn't see it friends, very casual. 496 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 3: That's fine. 497 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 2: Yes, it was. It was really really nice. It was 498 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 2: very nice, and it's nice to see Powe beside be 499 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: up there as the jerseys hung up there. It's so nice. 500 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 3: And there was that Vanessa Bryant sort of introducing the 501 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 3: whole ceremonies, and I think there was a clip of 502 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: Kobe talking about pel Gasol's jersey one day being retired 503 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 3: and all that. That was pretty cool. Yeah, I liked it. 504 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 3: It happened. I didn't realize this, but uh, Gasol himself 505 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: had asked for this night for the jersey retirement because 506 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 3: they were playing the Grizzlies, and obviously it's where he 507 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 3: spent his first seven seasons in the NBA. 508 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: Any thoughts on it, Uh, I thought it was cool 509 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: to see and I thought Pole summed it up perfectly. Dude. 510 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: It's an awesome orator. You said, with Kobe up there, 511 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: just add something meaningful and powerful and sad and happy 512 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: and painful and joyful. That's exactly right, because like those 513 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: two are tied together more than any two players outside 514 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: of Shack and Kobe, and it's pretty close, especially the way, 515 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: like you know, Kobe was ready to leave the Lakers, 516 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: they brought in Powell Basically to save that relationship. It did. 517 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: Kobe was really hard on Pow. It was when A 518 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: black Swan was a popular movie, remember, so I need 519 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: more of that black Swan from Powe. Poal ratcheted up 520 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: his intensity as a Laker, won a couple of championships. 521 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's pretty cool to see eight twenty four 522 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: to sixteen all lined up to you. 523 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and since we always talk about, you know, the 524 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 2: negative off court moments for players, the positive on core 525 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 2: moments or off court moments we should talk about as well. 526 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: Palcasola is truly a part of Kobe Bryant's family's life, 527 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: like no fake stuff, Like he is an uncle to 528 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: Vanessa and their children, and that is very, very meaningful. 529 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: That's the meaningful stuff. And also I'm sure meaningful was 530 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 2: Anthony Davis watching Pealagasol have his number retired. You could 531 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: see the likeness right there to being you know, a 532 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 2: one one A to a championship with with Lebron, just 533 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: like Powell was with Kobe sometimes being the best player 534 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: out there despite not having to take the shots. And 535 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: I thought of that and then he basically said he 536 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 2: said that postgame. I didn't realize that until we were 537 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: on here. He told the athletic basically that like, I 538 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 2: saw that, I want that, I want to be part 539 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: of that, And how could he lose on this night? 540 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: And I thought, that's why he took over in the 541 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Really he was the best player out there. 542 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk about that game a little bit. Thirty 543 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 3: point twenty two rebound game. That's a lot of rose 544 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 3: boof there from Ad to get the Lakers to win 545 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 3: and move them into the ninth seed. And also, Kings 546 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: fans are happy because they're up until the second seed 547 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 3: after their Grizzlies lost like the mother the fucking beam. 548 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 3: But Lakers big run down the stretch just with a 549 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 3: close game. And Ad did sort of a have a 550 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 3: takeover game here, which he's stringing together mean with like 551 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 3: the old nose was a mess last night, plugged up 552 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 3: and bandaged up. But this is what everybody was saying, 553 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 3: like needs to happen for the Lakers to get into 554 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 3: the play in or maybe even get into the actual playoffs. 555 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 3: When Lebron went down with the injury, AD, you got 556 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 3: to carry the team. You need thirty and twenties or 557 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 3: at least thirty and fifteen's and he's stringing them together here. 558 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: Also, you look at the Grizzlies team, no Steven Adams, 559 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: Brandon Clark is gone, so you know a little light 560 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: in the front court. So you love to look at 561 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: an Anthony Davis shot chart, and it's everything in the paint. 562 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: It was one for two from three. Took a couple 563 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: of other jumpers, but basically this was big man basketball 564 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: from Anthony Davis. Really helped keep Memphis off the offensive boards. 565 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: They only scored fifty points in the paint. They averaged 566 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: fifty eight, best in the league. So I thought that 567 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: was really impressive from Davis because this is what people wanted. 568 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: He had to carry the team while Lebron was out 569 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: if they were going to have a chance of making 570 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: it back to the play in tournament, which they finally are. 571 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: Now they're out button to nine, which is cool for them. Also, 572 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: tip of the cap, I think to Dennis Shrewder and 573 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: Austin Reeves, both of these guys have stepped up with 574 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: Lebron out, with di Lo out, there are more possessions 575 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: we're actually seeing, like Austin Reeves handling the ball. He's 576 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: making plays, not just finishing plays, though he did that too. 577 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: He had six in the fourth quarter. Shrewder had four. 578 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: Those two guys a little bit of an unsung heroes 579 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: I think for the Lakers so far this season. 580 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, those two dudes, and Troy Brown had a huge three. 581 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: Has become a very capable player, one of those guys 582 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: like sort of Lannie Walker, the Damian Jones, guys that 583 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: they added at the beginning of the season. I thought, 584 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 2: are they going to contry? Troy Brown has definitely grown 585 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: into the player that they want him to be. I 586 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: say all those names, it's hard not to cheer for 587 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: these Lakers. What even I know, I know everybody wants 588 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 2: to hate on the Los Angeles Lakers, but it's hard 589 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 2: not to cheer for them at times. Anthony Davis fighting 590 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 2: through the nose injury, all these guys working together, and 591 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: you never hear that. You No, you don't hear that 592 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: very through the Yeah, we caught them live on playback, 593 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 2: played it back. I will play that nose injury back. 594 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll play it back in an upcoming short. But 595 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: all that to say, the Los Angeles Lakers, I can't 596 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: even believe this. I was just checking as you guys 597 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: were talking to make sure this is true. They're in 598 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: the top ten for the first time this season. 599 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy. 600 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: For sixty six games, it took them to be in 601 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 2: the top ten of the Western Conference and here they 602 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: are in a battle. We got to talk about gold. 603 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Memphis, just real quick. Obviously, you know Stephen Adams, 604 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: the big ball problems there, They got some issues. That's 605 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 2: why Anthony Davis was going off as well. 606 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 3: I liked eighty going at like Tilman. 607 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah too small man. 608 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was scoring on him. 609 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 610 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 3: And John Jackson Junior is there. He's a defensive player 611 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 3: of your candidate. But not last night, No, not at all. 612 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 2: Sorry, this dude wants his number three retired. As he 613 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: told Jovan Buja, he will be weird to see number 614 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: three up there along with those numbers right now when 615 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: you think about it. But who the heck knows? Speaking 616 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 2: of three, the Grizzlies last three fourth quarters, they got 617 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 2: outscored by the Lakers twenty four to nine in the 618 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: last eight minutes, outscored by the Clippers twenty eight to 619 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: eight over the last nine minutes, and outscored by the 620 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: Nuggets thirty three seventeen over the last twelve minutes that 621 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 2: from our friend Fast Break Breakfast. That is their problem, 622 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: pre Morant, post Morant. They have problems scoring in the 623 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Ran out for two of those games. He 624 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: has sat out his de facto suspension. It strip seems 625 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: like it's going to be longer, like he won't be 626 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: playing against the Golden State Warriors. But they don't have creators. 627 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: I look back to the beginning of the season, Deadman 628 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 2: Bain was hot. He's scoring ten points in every fourth 629 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: quarter before his injury. He is the guy, he is 630 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: the X actor, he is everything to me. He's got 631 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: to be more of a creator. But that is their problem. 632 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: They don't have a great offense, John Morant or not. 633 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: And so that's why it's difficult to take them very 634 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,719 Speaker 2: seriously as a contender. 635 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 3: And so John Moran has missed the last two Grizzlies games. 636 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 3: That's what we were originally told. The suspension, non suspension, 637 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: whatever we were calling that damn thing was it was 638 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: going to be two games. But then we've heard Taylor 639 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 3: Jenkins say it's indefinitely. I guess that he's going to 640 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 3: be out, Like I guess. My point is, is John 641 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: Morant back for the next Grizzlies game does don't feel 642 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: like it no, so not good news for Grizzlies fans here, 643 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 3: especially on top of that with the injury to Brandon Clark. 644 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 3: I mean, Dylan Brooks, he had missed last game with 645 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: the sixteen texts, they may have been better off with 646 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 3: him missing last night's game. I mean it was a 647 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 3: five to seventeen Dylan Brooks type of game last night, 648 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 3: which he's gotten the bag for sure, but they're gonna 649 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 3: need them and uh, we'll see moving forward. But the Kings, yeah, 650 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 3: up to the second seed. Unbelievable stuff. Okay, we're gonna 651 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 3: take a break, I promise you. When we come back, 652 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about a lot of the other games 653 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 3: from last night. So don't go anywhere, all right, Still 654 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 3: here in the Classic Factory, we're still real. If you're 655 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 3: joining us, live, hit that like button, do us a favor. Okay, 656 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 3: the other Western Conference wins last night. We had Sga 657 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 3: and Josh Giddy with the seventeen points, a career high 658 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: seventeen assists and eleven rebounds help the thunder get past 659 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 3: the Warriors who continue to struggle on the road. So 660 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 3: that was a big game for okay See's staying in 661 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: the playan race, obviously hurting the Warriors there in the 662 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 3: standings bit. And then we had Kyrie Irving. He had 663 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: an awesome late run helped push the Mavericks past the 664 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 3: Jazz one twenty one sixteen. You called that one on 665 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: playback TK. We were watching a bit of that early game. 666 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 3: You said, I will guarantee you this game comes down 667 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 3: to the final couple of possessions, basically, did and the 668 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 3: MAVs get it done. So thoughts on either of those 669 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 3: games or both those games, and then we can get 670 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 3: to the West standing. So what do you think. 671 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 2: Tests Well, let's just start with the Warriors thunder. The 672 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 2: Warriors can't stop anybody. It is wild. They've lost seven 673 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: straight road games, and I know we've been talking about 674 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 2: their road record all year long. Now seven and twenty 675 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: five on the season. They give up one hundred and 676 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 2: thirty seven points. I just find it a little surprising 677 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 2: that Steve Kerr saying small ball's winning us this thing. 678 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 2: Kimon Looney's staying on the bench, coming in as a 679 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 2: backup center, and they are going with Kuminga in the 680 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: starting lineup right now, while Andrew Wiggins is out with 681 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: a family issue, and then whoever else to play along 682 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: Draymond Green. They really can't stop anybody. They're waiting for 683 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: Gary Payton the second to come back because who I 684 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 2: just wondering in the end, who is going to be 685 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 2: the guy besides Steph Clay Wiggins and Draymond Green as 686 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: the as the other defensive player. Are they gonna play? 687 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: Are they gonna play Gary Payton the second? They can't. 688 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: They can't do the pool thing, can they, because they 689 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: really can't stop anyone. And I bring that up because 690 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: this is the time of year and this is the 691 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 2: type of team that knows how to turn it on 692 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: for the postseason, and they're just not getting reps together. 693 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 2: So that's the worrisome part for them. Great that Shay 694 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 2: is back in the second game, back getting those reps. 695 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: We thought maybe maybe he's gonna sit out. Nah, They're 696 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 2: going for it. They want to win it. And Giddy 697 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: had a great game. Giddy is he's just a really 698 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: good basketball player. He's not the Giddy Giddy Giddy as well, 699 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 2: He'szerbiak said. He is just a very very solid guy, 700 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: growing in every part of the game. He had a 701 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 2: monstrous game but it helps win. The Warriors really just 702 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 2: no resistance on ball off ball, some weird turnovers, Draymond 703 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: Green turning his back on Jordan Pool mid play. 704 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 3: Jordan Poole's done it again. Remember he got Steph Curry 705 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 3: tossed earlier this season because they didn't pass on the ball, 706 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 3: and now he got Draymond Green all pissed off and 707 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 3: turning his back on the play. 708 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: He's gonna stay on the bench, I think, I think, 709 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 2: and be the sixth man. But they have things to 710 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 2: figure out. That's why I bring it up because people, 711 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: you know, you talked about the Kings in the second seed. 712 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: It still feels like the Nuggets for sure the number 713 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: one team. The Sons are right there, but the Warriors 714 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: still have the playoff pedigree, but they only got sixteen 715 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: games left to get it. 716 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 3: Called any thoughts on either of those two games the 717 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 3: MAVs one included. 718 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: Just that that's a really, really bad Warriors loss. Steph 719 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: Curry had forty and made ten threes and they lost 720 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: that game. Been struggling on the road for the entire season. 721 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 1: They gotta win that one. On with tasks. I thought 722 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: no Wiggins was a huge problem because the Thunder in particular, 723 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: have pretty good size on the perimeter with Sga and 724 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: Giddy Giddy in the fourth quarter incomplete control. I thought 725 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: six points five assists kind of whenever they needed a basket, 726 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: it felt like Golden State was making a run, just 727 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: a little floater, so really steadying presence from him. 728 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 2: They just think that Wiggins comes back and kind of 729 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: solves things along with Gary Payton the second but Wiggans 730 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: has been out for a month almost with the family issue, 731 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: and it's a a I just don't know it is 732 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 2: concerning for sure. 733 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: Comuna has been playing pretty well. Yeah, though I do 734 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: think so that's encouraging going forward that he'll probably be 735 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 1: in the playoff rotation. But they need all their guys 736 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: back basically right now so they can try and get 737 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of chemistry going. 738 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 3: Into the playoffs. 739 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: I also saw a guy named Rex Farmer meg it 740 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: a twenty thousand dollars half court shot. Rex Farmer. That 741 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: was a great name. 742 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty k Yeah, he's not a player. 743 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 1: Wrecked Farmer. He didn't say he's going to buy season tickets. Yes, 744 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: with a part of it respect to that, I think 745 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: you have to say that if you make a twenty 746 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 1: thousand dollars half court shot. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna reinvest 747 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: it in the team. As for the MAVs, they lose 748 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: that game a month ago, I think before the Kyrie 749 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: Irving trade. Look at look at in the fourth quarter, 750 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: zero points, one assist, oh for two, But it was 751 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: Kyrie takeover month seventeen in the fourth four or five 752 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: from the field, eight of eight at the line, three assists. 753 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: And then you got to give a little bit of 754 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: a shout out to Tim Hardaway Junior. He's averaging eighteen 755 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: points per game, shooting fifty five from the field sixty 756 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: three since the All Star break. They need shooting in Dallas. 757 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: Somebody's got to hit threes. That's how they get into 758 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: these games that always come down to the last couple possessions. 759 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: But nice win for Dallas. 760 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 3: Let's take a look at the Western Conference standings if 761 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,919 Speaker 3: you want to throw those up, JD. Because I think 762 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 3: after last night's action, it's it's crazy that between the 763 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 3: Mavericks at the five seed right now and you know 764 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 3: the I guess let's just say the Blazers there at 765 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 3: the twelve seed, it's it's two and a half. There's 766 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 3: two games in the lost column, I guess is the 767 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 3: one way to look at it. Between fifth and twelfth, 768 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 3: two games in the lost column. This this is going like, 769 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 3: this is going to be a wild ride here down 770 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 3: this stretch where all these teams play each other still 771 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 3: and just the bouncing around between like one minute you're like, 772 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 3: you know, you know in the playoffs and the next 773 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 3: minute you're like completely out of the play in. That's 774 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 3: that's wild. But you can just skip over in the 775 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 3: entire play and if you lose two in a row 776 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 3: or something. 777 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: This is when Matt Moore thrives at HP basketball. I 778 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: have a hard time keeping track of type breakers. It 779 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: feels like tye breakers are going to be incredibly important 780 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: in the Western Conference this year. 781 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 2: We talk about the Eastern Conference, we say, oh, it's 782 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 2: great that the play in tournament's there. We have Raptors 783 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 2: to cheer for, we have Bols to cheer for it 784 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 2: because they're nowhere near the top six. But in this 785 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 2: scenario in the Western Conference, all these teams going even 786 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 2: to thirteen with the Jazz, they could be fighting for 787 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 2: every single play real playoffs, and so it would be 788 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 2: it would probably be even a little bit more entertaining 789 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 2: like this is one year where you don't need the 790 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 2: play in tournament in the Western Conference. But the Jazz, 791 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 2: I think are the one team I think they will 792 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: join sort of the teams like the Spurs in the 793 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 2: Rockets nowhere close to the record, but the teams that 794 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 2: does fall out, even though they take the MAVs to 795 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 2: the buzzer. You want to talk about names. Johnny Jewsang 796 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 2: was playing for the Utah Jazz last night. Johnny Jewsang, 797 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 2: rookie from UCLA. They're playing guys so deep. It's amazing 798 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 2: how they fight till the last minute. I keep on 799 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 2: saying that they're going to fall out, but who knows 800 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 2: what this team anyways? Great ball one through thirteen in 801 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 2: the Western Conference. 802 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 3: Let's move over to the East. We had the Bucks 803 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 3: shorthanded beating the Magic one thirty four, one twenty three, 804 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 3: their eighteen to win in nineteen games. We had Daniel 805 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 3: Gafford with the putback given the Wizards one nineteen one 806 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 3: to seventeen victory over the Pistons. We caught the end 807 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 3: of that one on playback last night. Together, the Hornets 808 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 3: snapped the Knicks nine game win streak with a one 809 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 3: twelve one oh five victory, and mckel bridges puts up 810 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 3: another thirty as the beat. The Nets beat the Rockets 811 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 3: for their third straight victory. Which one you want to 812 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 3: start with their TK from the Eastern Conference games. 813 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: I don't have much on the Bucks. Most important thing 814 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,439 Speaker 1: to me first start for Chris Middleton since the middle 815 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: of December. He went for twenty four points, eleven assists, 816 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: five for nine from the field, twenty four points on 817 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 1: nine field goal at times pretty good, thirteen to fourteen 818 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: at the line, and he played thirty minutes. Yeah, Bud 819 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: basically said, we're trying to ramp up his minutes so 820 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 1: he'll be good to go for the playoffs. And obviously 821 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: Middleton is a hugely important player for them. We just 822 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: saw James Harden roasting him time and time again in 823 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 1: the loss to the Sixers, so they need him there 824 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: on offense and they need his quickness on defense. The 825 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 1: Wizard's game was pretty hilarious. We had Kyle Kuzma celebrating 826 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: a missed three pointer that he would have easily had 827 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,720 Speaker 1: the rebound from in the corner. We had Brad Beale 828 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: cooking in the fourth quarter, went for eight points, four 829 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: of six from the field. We had a hilarious string 830 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: of bad luck possessions for Denny Avdia that we will 831 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: hopefully turn into a short a little bit later today. 832 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: And then we had a great performance from Isaiah Livers 833 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,439 Speaker 1: as the tank commander in Detroit last night. He got 834 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: roasted by Beale for the game. For the game tying layup, 835 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 1: not much defense, basically just turns like hey, right this 836 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: way to the rim. Then an immediate turnover on the 837 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: very next possession. I couldn't believe that Jade and Ivy 838 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: didn't get the ball. Like I had fourteen points in 839 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. He was on a roll in the fourth. 840 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: I thought Dwayne should have went to Ivy. There went 841 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: to Livers and he delivered the loss. 842 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 3: Coused with the big strip there right yep, underneath the 843 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 3: rim and there and then and then a weird ending 844 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 3: where was it? A was it an ear ball at 845 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 3: the end the Gafford. 846 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: I think it wasn't there. Yeah, maybe it hit the 847 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: far side of the rim. Beals floater overshot it for sure. 848 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 3: Gafford in the perfect position to tip it in. 849 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 2: Taped it all together. Yeah. I was just talking about 850 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 2: the Knicks nine game losing streak or nine game winning 851 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 2: streak snapped by the Hornets. The Hornets, as we were watching, 852 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 2: that was their NBA Finals. Baby, they were in madison'square 853 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 2: garden hamming it up. There are three stars in Gordon Hayward, 854 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 2: Terry Roseier and Kelly Bray twenty three plus and Kelly 855 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 2: Bray kissing everybody in the crowd, blowing. 856 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 3: Every shot he made. He was blowing kisses. 857 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah he was. 858 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: He definitely was. 859 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, as Trey said, one of the best celebrators in 860 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 2: the game. I mean he doesn't, you know, pretty elegantly. 861 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 2: It's not like not an a hole. Yeah, it's nice 862 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 2: ten ten to seventeen for him. But yeah, they're celebrating 863 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 2: like crazy. No gel In Bronson and it's okay for 864 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,720 Speaker 2: the next to lose a game after that, the double 865 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 2: ot game against the Celtics. 866 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 3: That to take. 867 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, really, Hornets won their NBA Finals. That's really all 868 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 2: I wanted to take. 869 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 3: Champion and they're done. 870 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 2: We'll see next game what they do. Some bad shooting nights, 871 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 2: I see. 872 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's take a look at the East standings then 873 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 3: real quick did it for the West? Why not for 874 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 3: the East? You see the breakdown here. The Hawks got 875 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 3: two games starting tonight in Washington. Uh, they lost both 876 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 3: of them to the heat. It set that up recently 877 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 3: where they had this weird schedule like two games in 878 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 3: Miami and then two games in Washington. So not off 879 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 3: to a great start for the Hawks. But we'll see 880 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 3: if they can bounce back there. But it's pretty tight. 881 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 3: Bowls and Pacers, of course, still live, but not a 882 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 3: lot of confidence there from your TK gave me a 883 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 3: bit of a brush off. 884 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 1: I don't think that mathwise, still alive. 885 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 3: Mathwise yeah, okay, you think these are gonna be You 886 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 3: think those ten teams above that final line are going 887 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 3: to be the ten teams in the playoff slash planet? 888 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: I hope. So I don't want to be crushed missing 889 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: out on the tenth seed. 890 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of it. Yeah, all right, let's 891 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 3: get to pick them. Results from last night Sixers Wolves 892 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 3: was the game. Some of us thought this was gonna 893 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 3: be a schedule loss for Philadelphia, but Trey took him 894 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,439 Speaker 3: anyway and he got the victory. Corn won this guy. 895 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 3: I'm one and four, you're two and three. So not 896 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 3: a good month here. No, I am on a brutal 897 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 3: run right now, So I hope you're making money fading 898 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 3: my picks. What's the night's game? 899 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 2: I faded tonight as well. I just I'm going for 900 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 2: the loser. I feel like the cat. I don't like 901 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 2: the basketball the Calves are playing. They're going into Miami 902 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 2: as a two and a half point favorite. I know 903 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 2: they're the better team, but it doesn't feel like they 904 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 2: should be the favorite either way. I'm just riding with 905 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 2: them to win by three or more. You guys are 906 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 2: taking Miami, which is the smart pick. It's the Kevin 907 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 2: Love Bowl, released recently by the Calves. Hopefully we'll be 908 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 2: playing tonight for the Heat missed their last game questionable 909 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,280 Speaker 2: as of an hour ago with the old rib injury. 910 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 2: These heats, well, there's these heats. Turn it on at 911 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 2: some point, sometimes on, sometimes off. 912 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 3: We forgot to mention Jimmy Butler flying across the country 913 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,280 Speaker 3: to surprise Palgasol last night. He was this little moment 914 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 3: that the I think McManaman con on camera. Do you 915 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 3: think every flood he's on he's drinking Michelotle Ultra's and 916 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 3: and singing along and dancing in the aisles. It's an 917 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 3: easy flight. 918 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 1: Gotta be on his rider. I agree. 919 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 3: So yeah, Okay, Tray and I have Miami to play 920 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 3: with some points there as two and a half dogs 921 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 3: at home. Good luck. Let's get to tweeted the night. 922 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 2: Tweet out the night. 923 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 3: Wow, I'm hungry. 924 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 2: Well, first, let me give a shout out to h 925 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 2: Q rich Darius Miles the Old Knucklehead Podcast. Great conversation. 926 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,720 Speaker 2: I had this basketball ly tweet first, but I decided 927 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 2: to go away from it. They had Tyre's Halliburton on, 928 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 2: and Tyr's Haliburton talked about practicing for the three point contest, 929 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 2: and you know, you don't often hear about players and 930 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 2: the discussions regarding that, so go listen to that conversation. 931 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 2: He said he practiced Thursday Friday. I think he. I 932 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,919 Speaker 2: think he practiced Saturday as well before and he never 933 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 2: had a round lower than something like thirty. Came out 934 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 2: with a thirty one in the first round and then 935 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 2: fell apart in the second round. So it was just 936 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 2: really really fun to listen to that. Aside from that, 937 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 2: let's talk nuggets, Benjamin Hawkman. With this tweet, you get 938 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 2: an hour unlimited McNuggets, interesting specific nuggets McNuggets. Yeah, how 939 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 2: many can you eat Trey, we can start with you 940 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 2: because you've had the experience on our show previously. The starters. 941 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 2: It was a pick and payoff. You had half an 942 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 2: hour take us through the experience. What have you learned? 943 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 2: What would you do going forward? 944 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: My strategy when I did it was a half hour show. 945 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: I ended I'd eaten sixty nine of them, and I 946 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 1: think I ate like forty in the first Yeah you went, 947 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: I went as hard. 948 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 2: As possible, So forty in the first ten minutes. 949 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was crushing them as hard as I could. 950 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: And then I don't know if it was because I 951 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: was crushing them that hard or just the fact that 952 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,439 Speaker 1: I'd eaten a lot. At that point, I've definitely slowed down, 953 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I don't think my peak is going 954 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 1: to be that much higher. Like sixty nine and a 955 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 1: half an hour. You would think, okay, maybe that p 956 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 1: jump pays for one hundred, but I think it's more 957 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 1: like eighty because I was I was struggling by the end. 958 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 3: Were you saucing them. 959 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: Up at early sauce? I mean, I'm an occasional sauce. 960 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: You need it for the lubrication than any feel like 961 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: eighty would be my goal for an. 962 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,359 Speaker 2: Hour, okay, and you would just paste it a little 963 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 2: bit more. 964 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: I would try and paste it a little bit more, 965 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: but I still want to air with more early because 966 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: it gets so much harder. 967 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you're drinking water, right, I don't know, man, 968 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,439 Speaker 2: it's all I can't remember either. 969 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: I had to be drinking something. You must have probably, Yeah, 970 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,280 Speaker 1: those giant starters mugs. I mean, only one mug of water, 971 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: but sixty nine nuggets. 972 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, quick math, I guess you were going four per 973 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 2: minute for the first ten minutes and then one and 974 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 2: a half. Yeah, one and a half per minute for 975 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 2: the last twenty minutes. So maybe you're a nugget connoisseur. 976 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,479 Speaker 3: Yeah. I've said before, if like I were to ever 977 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 3: do or at least be able to compete in any 978 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 3: food eating challenge. 979 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 2: It would be nuggets take on the chest. 980 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 3: Like, I don't know, if I could do eighty, I 981 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 3: would love to throw down with you one day the 982 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 3: sour packs, but this would be my best like event 983 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 3: in the food eating world. But I don't know, I 984 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, you were some of you came 985 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 3: to that party we had Super Bowl party. I think 986 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,479 Speaker 3: it was where our guy Jared brought like he brought 987 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 3: like over one hundred one hundred. Now we were all 988 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,439 Speaker 3: eating them, but everybody then left and I just kept 989 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 3: eating them like a sad sack of shit. Now, but 990 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 3: I can take them down as I love. Look, I 991 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 3: had McNuggets yesterday all right. In fact, I'll tell you 992 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 3: what McDonald's stop saying, I'll see you tomorrow when I 993 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 3: go through the drive through. You're not gonna see me tomorrow. 994 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 3: I come once every two weeks, but man, they do that, 995 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,280 Speaker 3: and I'm like, damn, am. 996 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,320 Speaker 2: I gonna be back here to there slick? 997 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 3: But yeah I can. I don't know. I don't know eighty. 998 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 3: I don't know if I could hit eighty. I'm a 999 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 3: smaller man. 1000 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 2: But the sauce route, I wonder. 1001 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 3: Oh I would sauce it up. Yeah, I'm a. 1002 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 2: Sauce guy, but this is a competition. Maybe water is 1003 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 2: the way to go. 1004 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 3: No way, First off, water, give me crab juice. Yeah, 1005 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 3: I would sauce it up. And I'm a sweet and 1006 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 3: sour sauce guy. But I could work with barbecue. I 1007 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 3: can work with honey mustard. What's the other one ranch? Sure? 1008 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 2: Do they do buffalo McDonald's. 1009 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 3: I think they got a lot of sauce at this point. 1010 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't. He can't be a fast food joint 1011 00:47:53,200 --> 00:48:01,760 Speaker 2: without buffalo sauce they used to do. Uh, I would guess. 1012 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 2: I think it depends on the day. 1013 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 3: You know, you're prepping, you're prepping for it. 1014 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 2: I want yeah, pp I would prep for it like 1015 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 2: Tyers Haliburn for the three point contest, I won the 1016 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 2: poucine eating contest back in Toronto and the twenty sixteen 1017 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 2: All Star Game. 1018 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 3: It was also speed oriented, right, Yeah, these are two 1019 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 3: different things I would I'm looking at There was a 1020 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 3: speed one is take it down as fast as you can, yes, 1021 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 3: and then this is more of a how much can 1022 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,879 Speaker 3: you pack away. 1023 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 2: To being a reasonable impressed to be in a reasonable 1024 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,360 Speaker 2: amount of time? Yeah, I was wed. Yeah, we didn't 1025 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 2: put a time limit on this. But it's not like 1026 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 2: a twenty four hour competition here, No, there is an hour. Yeah, 1027 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:47,239 Speaker 2: it's an hour. This is a time competition. You get 1028 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 2: an hour. Yeah, that's right, Benjamin, thank you. I had 1029 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 2: totally forgotten about that. 1030 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 3: So what was his answer? Did he follow up? 1031 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 2: Did he I don't know. I didn't follow up on 1032 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 2: the follow. 1033 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 3: Because that sounds like a tweet that you say. You 1034 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 3: throw out there, and then you follow up with like, 1035 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 3: because I could do two hundred, you know, like like 1036 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 3: a hell of a brag. 1037 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,879 Speaker 2: Sixty minutes, you could do eighty. 1038 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 3: You did sixty nine and thirty minutes. 1039 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 4: He does follow up, Actually he does. Yeah, he says, 1040 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 4: I think I could do fifty. 1041 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:16,800 Speaker 3: I could do fifty. 1042 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 4: Anybody could do fifty, anybody can one hour. 1043 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can agree. 1044 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 3: I've done fifty. I'm proud of it. All right. 1045 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,320 Speaker 4: Well, the next the next tweet is nuggets from Where, 1046 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 4: Ben Nuggets from Where. It's right week, Nick raggets Nike Nuggets. 1047 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, you's. 1048 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 1: A Briday night. 1049 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 2: That's a Brady nugget. 1050 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 3: You took down that poutine. 1051 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: The hardest part of the poutine was it was hot. Yell. 1052 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, gravy was hot, piping. 1053 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 2: See, I was using water. I was drinking water cooled 1054 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 2: it down. I don't think anybody else was drinking water. 1055 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:58,399 Speaker 1: I was just drinking boiling gravy. All right. People want 1056 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 1: to know here rank rank the sauces. Six main sauces 1057 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 1: at McDonald's Tiny Barbecue Sauce, Spicy Buffalo, Creamy Ranch honey 1058 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,240 Speaker 1: mustard sauce. Honey and sweet and sour sauce. 1059 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 4: Okay, the sweet and sours number one, number one for 1060 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 4: me too, and it's not even close. It's the only 1061 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 4: sauce really. 1062 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: The only sauce preach. 1063 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 2: That's it. The honey mustard looks alright here, I'm seeing 1064 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,240 Speaker 2: some grains. 1065 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: You got a fleck of color in there, for sure. 1066 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 2: I like, I like a honey mustard. I don't think 1067 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 2: i've ever had the McDonald's honey mustard. 1068 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with a late addition to the sauce. 1069 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 3: I forgot about honey. 1070 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 1: Just a straight some sweet and packet usually not a dipper. 1071 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 2: Those are the two origines. That sweet and sour and 1072 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 2: honey I think are the originals. 1073 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: Gotta get love the barbecue. 1074 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 3: Been putting in work for you. But my problem when 1075 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 3: I do have a nugget in a in a McDonald's 1076 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 3: barbiue sauce, it's like it's not great barbecue sauce. There's 1077 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 3: so many other barbecue sauce. I'd rather be dipping in it. 1078 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,839 Speaker 4: I mean, I got off the grid, like sweet baby rays, 1079 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 4: you know, like, but I forgot my sauce, and then. 1080 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 3: You absolutely yeah, yeah. I mean I'm a huge fan 1081 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 3: of the Polynesian sauce at chick. I bought the bottle 1082 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 3: of it at the grocery public sells them so good. 1083 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 3: I mean it's similar to sweet and sour sauce. 1084 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 2: But I think you could eat more Chick fil ad 1085 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 2: nuggets smaller, the smaller, much much more more bread or chicken. Yeah, 1086 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:28,839 Speaker 2: that's a good point there. 1087 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I don't know. I don't know if I 1088 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 3: could even though they're smaller. That's like I've been putting 1089 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,439 Speaker 3: it like, No, I don't know. Like I've never eaten 1090 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 3: a burger for McDonald's. That's crazy, that's crazy. 1091 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: Never you're not one of the billions. 1092 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 3: It's why I'm confident about my McNuggets eating ability. I 1093 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 3: have never had a big mac. 1094 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 4: No, never in your life ever. 1095 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 3: My order at McDonald's for the since i've been going 1096 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,359 Speaker 3: as a child has been MC nuggets. I love them. 1097 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,480 Speaker 1: I never thought I'm gonna I'm gonna just try a 1098 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: burger here once. 1099 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,839 Speaker 3: No, because I love McNuggets. I told you guys. When 1100 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 3: we moved to the States, I was humped because we 1101 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 3: could finally get ten McNuggets instead of six. In Canada. 1102 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,319 Speaker 3: Oh and like six not enough right? Ten? 1103 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe McDonald's trying to get you in with the 1104 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 2: new chicken Big Mac just to change it puts something 1105 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:28,319 Speaker 2: out on their man. 1106 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 4: Is that coming to American? I saw it. 1107 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 2: It's in Canada, Canada? Yeah, so weird when there's things 1108 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 2: in Canada that aren't in the US. 1109 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 1110 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 4: Ever have him mc lobster. You can get that in 1111 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:40,320 Speaker 4: Nova Scotia. 1112 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 3: Never not, No, you never even tried it out of curiosity. 1113 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 4: Actually, I don't think I've ever been there. When it's 1114 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 4: it's like a make rib. It only comes right and 1115 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 4: every one. 1116 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, people talk about it. 1117 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 4: So I'm like you, I'd be like, I'm not I'm 1118 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 4: not deviating from my order. 1119 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 3: Right, what's your order? What's your go to? McDonald's. 1120 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 4: I like a Big Mac. Okay, I've had nuggets. 1121 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:10,319 Speaker 2: Yet. They were smart when they did the daily sandwich meal, 1122 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 2: like Fridays were fish fil At you know, so you 1123 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 2: like I encourage you? 1124 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,240 Speaker 3: Sure, that's why they say see you tomorrow? 1125 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just Friday. 1126 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 3: I really don't like when they say that to like, 1127 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 3: I shouldn't be here to begin with. Don't say you're 1128 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 3: gonna see me tomorrow. All right, we will see you 1129 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 3: tomorrow though. How do you like that? 1130 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 1: I like that? 1131 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 3: But tonight you gotta check out ESPN Plus Task and 1132 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,839 Speaker 3: Tray doing the sideline reporting for the Skyhawks G League 1133 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 3: game Jillygnite, excuse me game. It's on ESPN Plus. If 1134 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 3: you're in Atlanta, you can watch it on Peach Tree 1135 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 3: seven o'clock. So make sure you check out the guys. 1136 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,360 Speaker 3: Support the guys there tonight. You know, get your tweets 1137 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,760 Speaker 3: off about these guys. Tweet the Skyhawks, Tweet the Ignite, 1138 00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 3: Tweet the g League, these guys, tweet the NBA. Tweet Gatorade, 1139 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,399 Speaker 3: else tweet McDonald's. Well we're at it. 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This is from at Sports Report on 1148 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: Twitter The Hawks announced that Trey Kirby and Task Malice 1149 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 1: from the No Ducks podcast will be on the broadcast 1150 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,920 Speaker 1: for their G League affiliate tonight on ESPN Plus. Jeez, 1151 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 1: that's exciting man, because. 1152 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 3: We're in a release. Yeah, you guys are a big 1153 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 3: deal man, this should be Well, what the hell was 1154 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 3: I gonna say? Oh? Yeah, Survivor that's on tonight, And 1155 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 3: if you're a Survivor fan, we do our own podcast 1156 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,840 Speaker 3: about that show. It's called No Buffs. It's up on YouTube, 1157 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 3: has his own podcast feed, and we'll be doing that 1158 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,959 Speaker 3: tomorrow afternoon. But anyway, we'll see you here tomorrow morning 1159 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 3: at TENNYM Eastern. Until then, Clipper bros. 1160 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,719 Speaker 1: Have you heard it here first, have a great time, 1161 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,240 Speaker 1: turn up, Love you guy, awesome. 1162 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember, like they say, a 1163 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 2: McDonald's and Applebee's, see it tomorrow. 1164 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:07,760 Speaker 3: Race today, people,