WEBVTT - Featuring Joel McHale 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:03.960 Hey guys, It's Sammy Jay and welcome back to the 0:00:04.040 --> 0:00:07.520 Let's Be Real Podcast. I am so thrilled because this 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:12.680 week I got to chat with actor comedian host Joel McHale. 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:15.960 You know him from community. He's been in so much 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:18.760 and I'm truly so grateful that he took the time 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:21.480 out of his very, very busy schedule to chat with me. 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:24.520 I hope you guys enjoyed this episode and I can't 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:30.600 wait to get your thoughts. As always, here we are, 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:35.239 We're doing it, We're doing it well. Hello everybody, and 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:38.000 welcome to this week's episode of the Let's Be Real Podcast. 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:40.600 This week is so special because I am joined by host, 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:45.000 actor comedian one could are you legend? Legend Joel McHale? 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:49.000 One could argue and you would lose that are terribly 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:52.680 How have you been since the last time we talked? 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.920 Since this is the first time we've talked, we have 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:57.840 first time. What is it like being on the other end, 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:00.320 you know, of the hosting side being interviewed, which I 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:04.480 do prefer. Oh, this is way easier. What about it? 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:08.280 Just answering questions? Yeah, I don't have to prepare fair enough. 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:10.840 I don't have a teleprompter to go over or people 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:13.240 to please, because you know, when you're hosting, you gotta 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:15.200 usually an audience, and then you're like, I gotta tell 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:18.360 a bunch of jokes, yeah, which I like doing, but 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.640 it's work, which I like work. But then again, I 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:27.520 like doing nothing, which happens never, So it's great, very busy. 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:29.800 That surprises me that you like doing nothing, because I'm 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.119 also a workaholic. But I find doing nothing right now. 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:34.680 I like doing nothing. I just never do it. M 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:37.560 It's like something you always look forward to that just 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:39.760 doesn't happen, right. So when people like, oh, when I 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:43.360 finally get to do that thing, yeah, it's like, what 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.080 is it like when you give a cat like that 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:46.800 toy and they just chase after it but they never 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.600 really get it cat nip? It doesn't that just drive 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:53.800 them crazy? Maybe I like the cat flashlight? Yes, the flashlight. 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.200 It's that equivalent yea, when people like, oh, yeah, when 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:00.080 I finally get to that thing, Oh, we're going to 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:04.560 buy a beach house? Yeah, okay, yeah, go ahead and 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:06.960 just go do it. You know, we have a lot 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.760 in common. We do we do all right, Ready for this? 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:15.760 Go ahead. Both have learning differences Okay, yes, both anxiety, Well, 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:19.480 it depends on what's going on sometimes fair enough, fair enough, yes, 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.040 but I feel like those two things combined are just 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:23.680 never easy. So I was wondering what that was like 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.200 for you growing up. Well, I didn't have anxiety growing up, 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.920 so so that came later. That came later, as uh, 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:32.800 that's adulthood. That's only because mean, that's because of just 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:37.400 stressful travel. I didn't have it as a diagnosis. It 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:42.080 definitely dyslexia. Oh yeah, how is that like reading memorizing 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:46.640 lines with dyslexia? Memorizing lines is easy, that's easy. Dyslexia doesn't. 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.040 That doesn't affect a dyslexic brain. Uh, you read a 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:54.400 lot slower, I would say, Actually, some dyslexics probably memorize faster. 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:58.440 That's so interesting, Like are like we read slower and 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:02.480 comprehend it slow. Are then a person that reads typically 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:06.639 that can just read fast, but but we get all 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.079 the meaning once we read it. I'm the same way. 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:12.200 I have auditory processing issues, so it's somewhat similarity. Oh 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:17.160 but so memorizing, yeah, I can memorize like no problem. 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:21.560 Going back to anxiety. No later on now, like because 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:26.240 I travel a lot that stresses me out. That it's 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.160 because I'm trying to get back to see my family 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.880 a lot. And I lived in Georgia all last year. 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.440 So like when I start, when the jobs pile up, 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.520 which is great, I love working, but then you know, 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.000 the balance is always difficult. And then I'll be like, 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.280 why am I stressed out today? What's going on? And 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:45.360 then I started thinking in the future, I'll be like, ah, 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:48.720 that's what's happened. Just thinking that's what gets it going 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:52.360 for me. You've always been anxious, Oh yes, grown up 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.120 with anxiety. I think my learning difference has really triggered 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:59.160 it personally for me because the yeah, I understand that, 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:01.600 I always I just assumed I was dumb. Me too. 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:03.640 I thought I was just incapable of learning, like there 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:05.480 was something wrong with me. For so long. I mean 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.400 they literally told me I was a slow starter in 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:13.040 second grade, that someone diagnosed me with slow starts, um, 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:16.000 which is not a thing. They basically like, I don't 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:18.760 know what's wrong with him. You can't read, he seems fine. 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.680 Maybe he's just slow at the beginning of things, and 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:24.880 that's what it's like. I thought about it for years. 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:26.680 I was like, oh, yeah, well I'm a slow starter, 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:28.760 so I'm not going to figure this out at first, 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.720 but then later on watch out. That's how you like 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:35.039 you took that identity on kind of it sounds like, yeah, 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.599 that's what I was told. Yeah, I feel the same. 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.360 I know exactly what you're talking about. It's there sometimes 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:42.360 why I had that person hunted down and killed. Oh 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:46.760 and and they yeah, speaking of hunting down grills. Wow, 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:52.720 that's what a transition. Thank you, I Bear Girls. Bear 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.839 Girls is a great person. I know you traveled, did 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:59.520 an adventure. I need to know more about that experience. 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.039 Why is that like just spending quality time with Bear 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:07.240 Girls in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, we're we're trusting 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:09.760 your life in his hands essentially. Well, there is. I 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:15.920 mean there's insurances. There's insurance too, but imagine what the insurances. 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.119 It's probably pretty hot. But they they even were talking 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:22.239 like other countries you can go to and there's less 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:26.880 insurance required. But they're that crew is you know, that's 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:30.960 like a Navy seal team of television producers and they 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.000 know what they're doing and they've done it before many 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:37.640 many times. And Bear is a very responsible person. And 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:41.000 uh yeah, he's hurt himself a few times, but broke 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:45.160 his back. Yeah, shoulder maybe, but he's you know, he 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.760 was Special Forces, so he's yeah. I mean he was like, 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:53.080 it's fine. Do you want some Madville no? Uh? So yeah, 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.120 that was real fun. We got dropped in by helicopter 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.320 into a part of the Grand Canyon that doesn't have 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:01.680 any access, which was great. And the boy, I'm I'm 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.920 one of those people that love that sort of thing, 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.839 so I really I was talking talking about it. But 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:10.479 here's the crazy part. The night before in Phoenix, I 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:15.960 did two stand up shows. Then a airplane that they 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:21.640 rented picked me up and landed in this landed uh 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:25.000 wherever the heck we were in. I think it was 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.880 in northern northern Arizona, and I slept for a few hours, 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.359 and then we had ventured all day. Then I flew 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:35.280 back and did two more shows. So mental sanity, where's 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.000 that at That that that's a good day for me. 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:40.520 That's like a fun day. I'm like, oh, this is 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:42.280 gonna be a fun day. It'll be busy, but it'll 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:47.640 be fun. That's so much activity and so much stimulation. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.240 See for me, because I'm would you say you're an 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:53.600 introvert or an extrovert, the most extroverted person probably you'll 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:57.560 probably in Burbank right now, in Burbank specifically, Yeah, I am. 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:01.640 I am a golden retriever. My friend I described my 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:05.400 set friend. Yeah, my friend Kate, she was like, I'm 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:08.520 a golden retriever, and I'm like, that's right. Uh so, 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.640 And my wife's an introvert, so she has to deal 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.400 with this guy all the time. So I get energy 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:19.960 from being around people. I get more lively when in groups, 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:23.080 and I recharge when I'm by myself. I do not 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.320 do that, like I like sitting on a plane and 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:29.040 watching you know, like what we do in the shadows. 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.920 But are some show that I'd be like, great, and 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.559 That'll be my nice break and then then I'm off 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:37.000 and running. Do you give yourself a breakthroughout the day 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:38.840 or is it just kind of hustle and bustle till 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:42.000 you sleep? Are you hustle and bustle till I sleep? Always? 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.720 No self care? Uh? Well, I drink wine? What about 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:50.280 face masks? Face masks? No, I use a sleep mask 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:55.160 because I'm easily awoken. Those are lovely. One. I have 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.560 this big padded one. It's great. It looks like I'm 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.360 a hostage. Oh but no, those are great. They don't 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:02.560 touch your eyes. I have the silk one, but it's 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:05.120 fallen off. It falls off every that's the thing. I'll 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:06.920 try them and then they just won't be on my 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.200 face anymore. The next morning, MC, where did they go? 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:12.600 And then I'll wear your plugs and then the world 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:16.160 is the world doesn't exist. You're in your own world. 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:20.160 That sounds lovely. You have to you recharge during the day. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:24.240 I recharge by doing my routines and doing things that 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.920 are like for myself, and you have time to do 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.920 all that. I make time, even if I have less 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.080 sleep because of it. I will make time for it 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.160 because I know it will make me feel better. But 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:35.600 that's new for me. I feel like I'm trying to 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.760 get into it. So when you wake up, are you anxious? 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.960 Depends on the day and depends on what's happening right now. 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:45.600 Sometimes anxiousness it's like, well, what are you guys doing today? 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:49.040 We're gonna be doing some stunt flying. That can be 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:53.320 anxiety and docing like there's some but other times where 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.040 you wake up you're like, I'm anxious and I can't 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:57.800 even figure out why. Yeah, so I have anxiety and 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.959 O c D. So sometimes it can just be I'll 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:02.880 wake up and I'll be like, oh hey, They're like 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.520 you're there. I've yeah, you're there. Got to continue the day, 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.440 I know, yeah, I've developed that and I can't feel 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.160 I'm like, oh, look at that. Look you're going to 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.480 feel like this today, you know. I was talking to 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:15.640 my friend. She's like, you should name your anxiety, and 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:19.000 I was like why. She goes, why not, like like 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.319 a boat? Yeah, And it's like you put a name 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.160 to it, so it's not like yourself. So I'm like, 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.079 what did your name? I haven't named it yet, so 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.800 should we name it now? I think we should. Is 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.440 it a boy or a girl? Non binary? I feel 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.040 like it could be. Honestly, it kind of feels like 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:38.240 a girl. I'm not gonna lie all right, uh Joel, Joel? 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:42.600 I mean I just you know, Josephine, Josephine, Josephina. I 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:47.000 like Josephina. Jojo Jojo? What are you doing already? Jo Jo? 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.000 Don't mess up my morning like this or just go 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.200 oh hey Jojo and you can start mocking her. Oh Jojo, 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.800 what are you doing? You need to be a linxous today. 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.400 You're feeling a little needy to be next to me 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:03.240 all day. Come on, Jojo, I'm doing my self care later, Jojo. 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.720 I like Jojo. It's going to be Jojo. Okay, I 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.040 like it. I feel like that's something that's also I 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.360 don't know, there's something that I like about kind of 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.880 taking the power away from it. Do you kind of 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:15.880 make fun of it? Because I feel like that always 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.600 takes the scariness away from it, which is right? And 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.439 now is it weird that you're used to it? You're like, Oh, 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.679 it's one of these days. It's not as scary. I've 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:27.040 dealt with it for so long. And I think the pandemic, like, 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.480 I agree, the pandemic was no fun for that. No, 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.080 I feel like it just exacerbates everything that we're all 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:36.760 going through. If I didn't have exercise, it was would 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.840 you say, exercise is a therapy for you? Exercise wine, 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:46.840 Ken Jong, my family family first, but not no specific order. Yeah, 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.000 but Kennon, I did that podcast for a brief period 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.160 of time, and that was actually very helpful because we 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:55.080 both are we have to perform constantly, and so that 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.240 actually helped because we were like, oh, we have a 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.480 way to perform. Would you ever go back into the 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.120 podcast in games? Well, the problem is that Ken and 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:07.440 I both work in different places, and I'm speaking of 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.559 O c D very O c D and h D. Well, yeah, 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:12.679 I guess I'm more a D h D. So I'm 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:17.360 always very disorganized and scattered to do lists. No, really, 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.439 I would have to then write out a list. That's 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:22.079 how I get through my days to do list all 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.320 the way. I have to check everything off. Hire an 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:28.120 assistant that I've I've had assistance for years. That's a 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.360 badass move. If I when I get there, that's the goal. 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.960 That is a luxury. So they chase me around and 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:36.400 say you have to do this, this and this, and 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.960 I'm like, oh, maybe we'll get to it. We'll get there. 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:44.439 It must be maddening for them. It's great. I feel 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.520 like you you you have a good podcast voice, as 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:51.040 do you. Thank you. That's funny said, because I don't 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:52.360 like the sound of my voice, but I have to 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.640 listen to it quite a bit. So then that's is 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:59.400 that another source of anxiety? Aren't there always sources? I 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.400 don't know how. I think it's worse if you were 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.559 like like if you were like I am, because I 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:08.120 know people that enjoy their voice too much. Those are Yeah, 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.480 you're like, okay, we hear, We're just hearing. You just 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:12.840 want to hear your self talking right now, you're just talking. 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:15.000 You love the sound of it. You don't know what 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.960 you're saying anymore, neither do we. Just so everything is 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:23.840 so great to listen to. So that's I don't like that. 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.360 So I think that's worse than a person. I guess 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.640 self loathing is not great either, but maybe maybe neutral reaction. 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.000 I think there needs to be a middle ground because 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.199 I'm very self loathing both. This year is all about 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:39.000 self love. That's what I'm making it about. Is it working? No, 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.400 but we're trying. Okay, yeah, do you have to do 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:46.160 chant like an affirmation? No? I need to get into affirmation. 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.040 I need to get into journaling. But then it's writing, 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.320 like I can write to do list, but because I 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:53.600 have so much on my mind, writing like my thoughts 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:57.600 is will just hurt my hand. I ever do that? Yeah, 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:01.240 So I'm like, what's another good outlet? Um? You could 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:06.240 just leave yourself voice memos? Do you do that? I 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.920 have done? So? I have done stuff like that, But 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:12.600 I got a friend. Uh. We both yap so much 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.000 that if we get on a phone call, it'll take 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.960 a long time, so we leave each other voice memos. Also, 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:21.720 we are schedules never aligned, so it's really the only 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.920 way uh sadly. But then we will have a call 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.840 and it will be like two hours wow, voice memos. 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:29.960 Like when I get on the phone with Ken Jong, 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.400 I'll we'll talk for ninety minutes. But I think that's 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.920 why people love the podcast and stuff, because it's just 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:39.520 seeing you guys in in your element. And you know, 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:43.800 I think community is has become something bigger than itself. 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:48.000 Um already that's called a transition. That's called the transition 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:52.240 right there. Um. So I'm a film student also that, 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.280 and I am really interested in just the process of 0:13:56.480 --> 0:14:00.000 creating from start to finish. And something that really inspires 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:04.280 me specifically about Community is how you guys just played 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:07.960 around formats so often. Yeah, we filmed it like a movie. 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.480 Your shoot days were crazy. You did your research, of course, 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.360 very good. When you're filming a show like that and 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:18.240 there's such time commitment, how do you find the balance 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.960 on wanting to be a normal human and be with 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.800 your family but also you're working on something that is 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:27.120 a show that's arguably very being done very differently than 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:31.880 most shows, well, movies that are any any movie that's 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:36.680 shot in a cinematic way takes time. And unless you're 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.640 clin Eastwood where you just stop shooting at five o'clock 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:43.840 every day, there is no way to have a balance. 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:48.240 Especially in production. It's balls to the wall all the time, 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:53.360 early calls, late wraps, early calls. That's just the nature. 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:58.920 That's nothing would get done unless you had hours like that. 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.080 There can be way did time. Sometimes it doesn't. I've 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.800 been been lucky. There's I've been on some very efficient 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:10.680 sets and then some totally inefficient sets. Uh. And the 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:14.720 that's that can be maddening when it's not going quickly, 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.320 but where when it's when it's you can see that 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.560 time is being wasted. But the other thing is like 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.720 with community, we we were moving as a lot of it. 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.000 We were moving as fast as we could, but it 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.640 just takes time. When you're doing stunts and you're getting 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:33.800 like around the around the study table that was seven 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.120 people around there, and so every person has to be 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:40.360 shot and every every part of the scene has to 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:43.280 be gotten from that angle. So that just takes a 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:45.960 lot of time. And so if you come to peace 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.720 with that, it'll just it's just gonna be a while. 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.760 Then it's okay. The you know, to have a normal 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:54.200 like you get your normal life when in your months off. 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.720 Do you enjoy the process of filming and creating or 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:01.360 do you like, um more of the finished product? Oh well, 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.800 I like, I mean, I like acting a lot. I like. 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:08.360 I mean, it's my first true love. What about it 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:12.360 do you like? I don't know. I just like doing it. 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:15.040 It's fun. I always thought it was. I thought always 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.440 thought it was, you know, playing One of the reasons 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:19.600 why I kept pursuing it because I was like, I 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.480 would be terrible at a real job, and I'm gonna 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:25.680 do this until the real job police come and take 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:30.080 me away. So uh so far they haven't. So far 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.680 they haven't, thank god, because it's the only thing I 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.760 ever wanted to do, so which can be an affliction 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:37.920 because I know all sorts of people that that's all 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.640 they ever wanted to do and and they had to 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:46.000 get a real job, which is maddening. Uh So it's yeah, 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:48.960 it's it's a It really is a bug. It's like 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:52.600 having a disease, that has just can't snitch, that has 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:55.080 to be scratched all the time. Do you prefer acting 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:57.520 or hosting or they just completely separate in your mind? 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:00.240 I just yeah, I don't have any preference. I like 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.960 it all. Everyone Everyone was like, well, if you had 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.800 to choose, and I was like, who's making these decisions? 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:09.840 What world are we living in where I have to choose? Uh, 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.800 they're all they're super They're really all. They're fun. They're 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:16.600 all fun. So there's that the play of it. UM. 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:19.280 I think acting, you know, playing a character takes a 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.880 lot of time to develop, and you're developing another human 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.040 in a way. Yeah, you're worth So that takes up. 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.920 That is rewarding to see those things if they go well, 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:31.240 you know when you're watching it back on television. Um, 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:34.480 Hosting is fun because I get to improvise and screw 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:38.080 around and have you know, like and so I love 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:41.119 all that stuff. I like stand up. Stand up is 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.400 there's a there's a lot of travel, which I used 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:47.000 to love. I still love it, but it it is 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:49.880 maddening to be away from the family. Once I'm finally 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:54.040 standing on stage. It's very fun and rewarding. And challenging, 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:57.159 but but the whole process of kidding there, I'm like, 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.120 I gotta do all that that then then and then 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:03.359 finally okay take them. Yeah, anyway, it's these are all 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:08.520 these become luxurious problems, but they're you know or you know, 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:10.679 but it's also your daily life. It's part of what 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.320 the job is. And I love it and would never 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.560 trade it. Yeah, I mean unless you have something really nice. 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:20.040 I mean, I mean, if I do, I'll let you know. 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:22.600 But like a spaceship, I would take that, you know, 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.280 that would be pretty iconic, would be valuable, and you 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:28.280 could go all over the universe probably though that's so true. 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:31.399 We have to take a quick break. But when we 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:33.919 come back, I want to talk about Psych the movie. 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:36.320 I know you played a very special role in this movie. 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:38.760 And by the way, everyone Psych is one of my 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.200 favorite shows. I also want to talk more about the 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:44.760 show community, how you define success for yourself, and so 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:53.520 much more. We'll be right back and we're back. You know, 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.919 you were in a movie that I watched recently and 0:18:55.960 --> 0:19:00.000 I was like, oh, hello, John McHale, Uh Psych the movie, 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.920 Psych the movie. Yes, I'm a are you a Psych fan? Well, 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:07.280 how did that come about. I am I am friends 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:11.920 with Tim Almondson, who is from Seattle, in my hometown, 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:14.760 and he was on Psych and he had a stroke 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:19.000 about five years ago and which almost killed him. He 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:23.639 has recovered remarkably, but he is still you know, like 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:26.440 he actually can walk now. But there was a time 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:29.680 when and this is terrible, SAG was just going to 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:34.159 cut off the insurance because he stopped working. So James 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.320 Rode and Dole Hill, who are coming on the podcast. 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:42.879 He's so great. I'm so excited, so fucking talented and 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:47.160 nice and he's every those those two guys are what 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:51.359 you want in a leads. And like Maggie Lawson's on 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:54.680 that show, who was also so kind at the number 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.720 of cool people on that show doesn't make any sense. 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:00.400 And so when it starts with them being cool, which 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:03.399 makes a set happy, and it makes the set a 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.280 very happy place. Anyway, they wrote to that Psych movie 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:10.919 too for Tim to be in so he could get insurance. 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:14.760 I mean, it's this what a terrible policy of I 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:18.400 have thousands of problems with the Screen Actors Guild, this 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:20.679 being one of the big ones is that if you 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:26.680 stop working because you're horribly injured, yeah, you're not well protected. 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:30.800 So then so then they he gets his insurance back, 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.240 but he has a life insurance policy and they and 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:36.120 they they turned around and went, oh, he's working again. 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:38.240 We don't have to pay you for your life insurance now. 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:43.080 And so it's also it's also stupid. And he then 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:48.600 eventually got back because he has will have lifelong challenges. Um. 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:53.080 One of those challenges not being drinking bourbon with me um. 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:56.399 So he missed opportunity so that I got to play. 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:59.879 That was a surprise that I was playing his father 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:03.320 who had passed away in the show in the movie, 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:07.320 and so it was super fun and we've surprised him 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:09.760 on set and she didn't know that you were playing 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:12.880 his dad. Is there a video of this? There is? 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:19.320 There is video? Is it out there? No, I've kept it. No, No, 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:21.760 I think it is out there. Really Yeah. I think 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:26.000 something that I love about I know you're gonna say 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:29.880 a transition, but Psych and Community is that the creativity 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:33.000 and both shows I think are so prevalent, and I 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:34.840 think those are the kind of shows that we need 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.359 to be having more of nowadays because it's really playing 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:41.679 around with format, really playing around with like Psych, Red 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:44.480 did a whole the same episodes just six years later. 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:47.600 I think it's awesome that now there are these shows 0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:50.320 where we can just change around. You guys did a 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:52.879 doc episode one time. Yeah, we did a couple of those. 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:59.119 Dan Harmon's brain is very unique and very special and 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:03.159 great and uh so that's why the show went from 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:07.040