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Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

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Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even

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Speaker 1: in the strategy of normalcy. Welcome to a midweek edition

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Speaker 1: of One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

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Speaker 1: Good to be back in the chair after a couple

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Speaker 1: of days away. Everybody's taking a little bit of an

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Speaker 1: exhale here had One Bill's Drive. People, this is like

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Speaker 1: the time of year to kind of get out, get

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Speaker 1: end of the week for a short spell. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm taking a long weekend. But it's it's funny too

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Speaker 1: because we had all the you know how, it was

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Speaker 1: didn't get even I didn't even never saw Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: we should also mention that the normal nine to five.

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Speaker 1: People are still not back. Yeah, they're gone. Everybody I'm talking,

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about everybody knows. The players are gone.

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Speaker 1: The coaches. Coaches are like they may come in once

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Speaker 1: right with right man. He was in Chicago doing the show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean we're Wow. We're on an island. Bill's Island, Jeff, Tom, Joe, George,

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Speaker 1: Jay and Survivor. And it's like, you know, it's like

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Speaker 1: an apocalyptic movie here. Well, you go out in the

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Speaker 1: like nuclear Winter went out. I went out and the

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Speaker 1: and the feel how it's like it's lit. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: Anybody in there, hello, Hello, It's like empty. It's so sad.

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Speaker 1: Oh Man, still living in the COVID world. We're talking

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Speaker 1: yesterday when you were before you got back man, It's

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Speaker 1: like it's mock draft season. Yeah, this is like this

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Speaker 1: really is as dark as it gets in the NFL. Well,

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Speaker 1: already seeing it's Steve I mean, you know, JJ Watt

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Speaker 1: It doesn't look like the Denver Broncos are going to

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Speaker 1: there from Shield Capatti, who's going to be joining us

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Speaker 1: But you got all these guys coming up, all these

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Speaker 1: idea of free agencies like going into you know, you're

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Speaker 1: It's like going into the store without a plan. You're

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Speaker 1: out to Shack Barrett, Shaquille Barrett Safe for instance, Tampa

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing as well. I love and we've

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott puts it on his coaching staff to get

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Speaker 1: in a in a lead in a season where your

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Speaker 1: cap may be as low as one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 1: five million, That's that's a lot you've They've got to

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Speaker 1: play really well to get the value out of it.

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Speaker 1: And that's gonna be hard for this crew to do.

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Speaker 1: I think. I think as much as better as they

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Speaker 1: played at the end of the season as they did

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Speaker 1: than they did in the beginning. Uh, they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to play better than that throughout to get value for

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Speaker 1: that percentage of your cap um. I just don't think committed.

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Speaker 1: And I know this too. I mean, they're gonna restructure

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Speaker 1: some deals this this offseason. We've seen it happen and

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Speaker 1: we saw it. Think about this and the last couple

439
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Speaker 1: of years, Brandon Bean has spent the last week of

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Speaker 1: training camp right before they do the final roster, they

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Speaker 1: sign extensions, they restructure a couple of guys, they do

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Speaker 1: they do some work right then to get a little

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Speaker 1: bit of cap space. Or when they know they've seen

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Speaker 1: him practice throughout training camp and they say, listen, he's

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Speaker 1: not we can't have him on the team at that number.

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Speaker 1: If he's gonna play like this like he's been practicing,

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Speaker 1: we can't do it. Or they'll say you know what,

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Speaker 1: this guy's a big part of what we're doing. We've

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Speaker 1: gotta make sure he's happy. But let's fix his contract

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Speaker 1: so he gets some money upfront, lets him know how

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Speaker 1: much we like him, get some cap pills, that kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff. Does a ton of that in the last

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Speaker 1: week of the preseason. I don't think they'll wait that long.

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna do some work before free agency

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Speaker 1: they can to right the restrictive cap situation prompts them

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Speaker 1: the two moves that we talked about yesterday. With the

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Speaker 1: option that they have with Tradavious White and Dion Dawkins,

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Speaker 1: where they will convert half of their this year's or

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Speaker 1: their twenty twenty one salary to bonus and spread it out.

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Speaker 1: It gives them about fourteen million extra dollars in cap

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Speaker 1: space this year. So I don't think there's any doubt

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Speaker 1: they do that. They'll be under the cap easily by that.

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Speaker 1: They'll probably they'll do that anyway. I think those are

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Speaker 1: two guys that is a no brainer to do. But

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Speaker 1: they won't do that until they find out exactly what

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Speaker 1: the CAP's gonna be, right, so it'll be a one.

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Speaker 1: It'll be a minute before they get that done. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to the phones. At eight O three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty one fifty two five fifty we go to Mark

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Speaker 1: in Tonawan. Mark, what do you have for us? You're

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Speaker 1: on one Build Live. Hey guys, thanks for having me on. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just think so this is my theory. I think

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Speaker 1: Bean never shows his hands. I think that he's done

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Speaker 1: very good at kind of playing things close to his chest.

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Speaker 1: And with it being Josh's last year under his rookie deal,

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Speaker 1: you know, he says, oh, well, we're not you know,

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Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of flexibility. I think they're

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Speaker 1: willing to cut people that we'd be shocked to hear

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Speaker 1: cut if the player available that they want is available. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get you, Mark, but here's what you got. You're right,

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Speaker 1: You're right. They're not going to tell anybody exactly what

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Speaker 1: they're thinking. But it's Josh. Josh has two years left

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Speaker 1: on his deal, not one. Well, provided they exercise the

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Speaker 1: fifth year options. I'm saying is I don't think he

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Speaker 1: would take it lightly. And my thing is too, if

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Speaker 1: we're in salary cap, you know, if we're in a

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Speaker 1: jam with a cap, who cares if we win the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Winning solves all these problems, right, Who cares

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Speaker 1: the Tampa was in cap trouble at the end of

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Speaker 1: the year, you know, for the next three years later,

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Speaker 1: Who cares? If you win games? If you're winning football

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Speaker 1: games and you're in the Super Bowl, you know, and

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Speaker 1: you win the game, who no one's gonna care about

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Speaker 1: what contracts are bad, what contracts are good? If JJ

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Speaker 1: wat if they think J. J. Watt is gonna beat

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, you signed J. J. Watt to whatever the

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Speaker 1: amount of money, right, I mean, if you believe in

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Speaker 1: that player, that's what you do, right, That's yeah, it's listen, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right, Mark. If if all that stuff's true, you're right.

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Speaker 1: But here's the problem. You don't know if it's going

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Speaker 1: to be true. You might have the best team in

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Speaker 1: the NFL and get be the victim of a Hail

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Speaker 1: Mary or a miracle in Minnesota and you're out, and

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Speaker 1: then all that work you've done is worthless. So when

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Speaker 1: you get down to the like the Bills, did you

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Speaker 1: get down to the final four this year? You may

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Speaker 1: have the best team left. That doesn't mean you're gonna win. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's not. It's about and they've said this from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: It's about being able to and getting back there again

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Speaker 1: and again and again. Giving yourself the most swings at

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Speaker 1: the plate is the idea, and you can only do

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Speaker 1: that by being responsible every single year and maximizing the

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Speaker 1: contracts you've got. The Bills are really good at and

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Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. Twenty nineteen, they had a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: There was a little bit of a roller coaster, but

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Speaker 1: they had a defense that was lights out, so they

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Speaker 1: so they that was their identity, but they wanted to

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Speaker 1: get better, and rightfully so, they always want to get better.

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Speaker 1: So to get better, they jettisoned. They let two really

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Speaker 1: good players walk away off their defensive line, refurbished it

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Speaker 1: with veteran NFL players that were middle of the road.

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Speaker 1: They went out and got a big number one receiver,

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Speaker 1: something completely different than what they hung their hat on

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Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. They got a big number one receiver.

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Speaker 1: They drafted another running back. They did things they could

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Speaker 1: for this young quarterback, and he took a step forward.

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Speaker 1: And their team in twenty twenty as opposed to twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen was completely different but better. They won five more games,

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Speaker 1: five more games than they did in a year. They

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Speaker 1: went to the playoffs the year before. That's where they're

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Speaker 1: trying to stay. They're gonna they're trying to get better

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Speaker 1: no matter what. It looks like. This philosophy like we're

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Speaker 1: gonna always be a running team and play defense and

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Speaker 1: forget it. You go out and you get the best

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Speaker 1: players possible, and then you decide what your identity is

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Speaker 1: going to be. When you see him show up a

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Speaker 1: training camp. You don't care if you run it or

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Speaker 1: throw it. You don't care if you're a pass rush

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00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: team or a coverage team. Nobody cares if you win.

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Speaker 1: And if you're responsible and always maximize your contracts and

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Speaker 1: get the most talent you can in the building, you

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Speaker 1: give yourself a chance. That's what the Bills are at.

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Speaker 1: That's where the Bills are at. The question is last

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00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 1: year going from ten to fifteen wins is great. You

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Speaker 1: may have to shuffle the deck again in a restricted

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Speaker 1: cap situation and still try to be as good, if

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Speaker 1: not better. I mean, the goal is to be even better,

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Speaker 1: but the bar has been raised a lot, and I

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Speaker 1: think the task is harder even though the team is better,

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Speaker 1: because you have to change something on this defensive line,

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Speaker 1: which is what we're discussing today. Break time for us

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Speaker 1: Martin and Depew hang on your first up after the break.

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Speaker 1: When we return, more discussion on the best way to

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Speaker 1: help the Bills pass rush in this unique off season

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Speaker 1: with a restrictive cap. Choices are there for you in

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live. We're back in a moment here in

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Speaker 1: the one Bills Live midweek edition, Wednesday edition, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Kalid to Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Chris Brown Steve to ask you with

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Speaker 1: you here on a Wednesday discussing the best way to

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Speaker 1: help the Bills pass rush. Choices for you at one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live on Twitter, we'll get to the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: and a bit. We got to go back to the

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Speaker 1: phones where there's an open line for you at eight

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Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty if you have a preferred

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Speaker 1: means by which the Bills should help their pass rush

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty one. But we go back to the

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Speaker 1: phones and we lead off here in this segment with

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Speaker 1: Martin In Depew. Martin, what do you have for us

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Speaker 1: here on one Bills Live. Hello Martin, Yes, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're on What do you got for us? Oh? You know,

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Speaker 1: both of you, you can contribute to this question. Do

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Speaker 1: you think J. J. Watt would be worse going over

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Speaker 1: our salory cap to grab them? No? No? No? How much? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the question. How much is it going to cost?

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Speaker 1: And you know, if he is more interested because he's

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Speaker 1: made enough money for or his grandchildren to live off

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Speaker 1: of uh if if winning is truly important to him,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, his agent's not gonna want him

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Speaker 1: to take a discount. But what is he willing to accept,

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Speaker 1: what is not an insult to him and what he

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Speaker 1: feels he still has left in the tank. That's the

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Speaker 1: underlying question. Mark. But if you've got five teams going

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Speaker 1: after him, it's gonna be a bidding war, and the

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Speaker 1: Bills are not going to be part of that. That's

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Speaker 1: just not the way they operate. Um, if you can

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Speaker 1: get him for a reasonable number or with a with

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Speaker 1: a low number and a lot of incentives attached, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm all about it, and I believe me. I think

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Speaker 1: the guy can really play. But I don't think the

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00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: Bills are structured so that they have four elite players

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Speaker 1: on their team and everybody else is just guys like

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Speaker 1: the like the the La rams Um you know, they

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00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: got to that point where they've got Aaron Donald, They've

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Speaker 1: got j Jalen Ramsey, Matt Stafford, up, Cooper Cup they

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Speaker 1: got and then there's you know, and they had Golf

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Speaker 1: but they got Stafford. Now they got these guys and

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Speaker 1: everybody else is going to be on a rookie contract

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Speaker 1: and they've got no first round draft picks till twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six or twenty twenty five or twenty twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: something like that. You got to do that go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't they hide the money in a signing bonus? Well?

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Speaker 1: How to sign him for But that's the thing. You're

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00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: probably only looking at a one or two year deal

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Speaker 1: for a thirty two year old who probably is only

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Speaker 1: going to give you two really good years, and you

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Speaker 1: are in a go for it window, there's no question

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Speaker 1: about that, Martin. But I think the money has to

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Speaker 1: be right for what and that's what the Bills do,

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Speaker 1: and that's why they've been able to stay cap strong

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Speaker 1: for the most part to this point. But what we

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Speaker 1: have is a very unique cap situation that has changed

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Speaker 1: the dynamics of how the Bills operate. They have to

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Speaker 1: be more fiscally responsible than they already are because of

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Speaker 1: where this cap currently sits. And if they determine, well,

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Speaker 1: if we have jj Watt, he would be the best

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman on our roster the day he walks in

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Speaker 1: the door. Well, if that's how good you feel about

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Speaker 1: jj Watt, Yeah, you are going to do what it

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Speaker 1: takes to land him, provided you don't get out of

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Speaker 1: control and beyond what you believe his proper value is.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, no matter how many teams

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Speaker 1: are involved in the pursuit of jj Watt, the bills

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Speaker 1: are going to set a value on what they believe

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Speaker 1: he is worth. Whether it's twelve million a year thirteen

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Speaker 1: million a year, they will set a value and then

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Speaker 1: they will see what the market says. And if the

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Speaker 1: market is soft and they can get him at that value,

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Speaker 1: then the deal gets done and they make whatever other

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Speaker 1: adjustments to the roster to get under the cap, to

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Speaker 1: keep it, you know, to get him in, fit him in.

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Speaker 1: If there's a bidding war and it goes beyond whatever

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Speaker 1: their value has been set, they're not going after him that.

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Speaker 1: They just don't do it. That's not the way they are.

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Speaker 1: Here's the reason, because think about the ripple effect. So

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Speaker 1: you get a guy like JJ Watt, you sign him

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Speaker 1: to this big deal, and then you have to compensate

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Speaker 1: or compromise on other positions like the rest of the

639
00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: d lines. Say you cut Jefferson, Addison, Butler, Butler, you

640
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: cut those guys, and you save the money you give

641
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: it to JJ Watt. Then you've got guys who probably

642
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: aren't as good as Justin zimmer And and you know,

643
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips and anybody else you can name. They're not

644
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: gonna be very good. So what you've done is so

645
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the money out of j. So now

646
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: JJ is gonna play a lot more snaps. Now, not

647
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 1: only have you compromised financially, but you've compromised the philosophy

648
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: that this team has used as well. So not only

649
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: you give him the money, now you don't rotate eight

650
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: guys through and keep them fresh pass rushers. Now you've

651
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: got guys sitting on the bench that don't contribute at

652
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: all because they can't even get on the field. Because

653
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: you got a guy making twenty million dollars I'm exaggerating,

654
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: whatever the number it would be. You got JJ Watt

655
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: out there, and you're getting your money's worth them him,

656
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: and he's playing half speed because he's beat because you

657
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: don't trust anybody else to run. So your philosophy goes

658
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: out the window, and your salary cap goes out the window.

659
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: And in two years when the cap goes up, all

660
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: these other teams are going to be spending money, they're

661
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: gonna have extra cap money, they're all going to be

662
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: getting better, and you can't because you've got twenty five

663
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: million dollars in dead cap because JJ's gone. So you

664
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: compromise at every level, and the ripple effect goes years

665
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: down the road. And it also caused you to have

666
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: to compromise your philosophy of the way you want to

667
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: play your team on the field. Anyway, So I think

668
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: we can agree what this restrictive cap has done is

669
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: put the Bills in a very interesting dilemma. And I

670
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: guess what I mean by that is, if the restrictive

671
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: cap isn't there, the Bills are still healthy. They're cap strong,

672
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: as they like to say, and that's their general approach.

673
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: And let's say in a normal cap here, if it

674
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: was at two fifteen, as most teams had projected, the

675
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: Bills would be able to still make some moves here

676
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: and there, maybe not gigantic ones, but the typical type

677
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: of tier two type moves in free agency that they

678
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: do to make their roster better while not compromising and

679
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: mortgaging their future. That's how they're operating. Now here's the difference.

680
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 1: You had a quarterback that vaulted himself into the top

681
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: five in the league at the position. So the window

682
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: has now opened where you're presumably gonna have this guy

683
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: leading your team for the better part of the next decade.

684
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: And so there's a part of you that says, we

685
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: don't want to mortgage the future at all. We'd rather

686
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: be a perennial contender. Know when we got this guy

687
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: as our quarterback for the next ten years, so let's

688
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: take a swing at it every one of those ten years,

689
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: not let's go for it these next two years and

690
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: then if it doesn't work, we got to tear it

691
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: all down because we were fiscally irresponsible. And so at

692
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: the same time, you're probably also saying, well, we're this closed, though,

693
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: maybe we should take take on a little bit more risk,

694
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: even in a restrictive cap situation. Maybe put all our

695
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: eggs in the JJ Watt basket or put more of

696
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: our eggs in the von Miller basket or whatever it is.

697
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: And I think that's that's part of the fight that

698
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: you're waging with yourself as a general manager in this league.

699
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: If you're in a position like Brandon Bean, because because

700
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: you got a quarterback, you know that's gonna have you

701
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 1: in the hunt probably every single year for the next

702
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: ten years, provided you do some of the right supporting

703
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: cast moves with the rest of the roster. If but

704
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: to put you over the hump to get mortgage the future. Listen,

705
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: the Bills are already Here's the thing my philosophy. The

706
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: Bills are already over the hump. So are the Chiefs,

707
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: So are the Bucks, so are the Packers. They're already there.

708
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: Those four teams and maybe one or two others outside

709
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: of that, are already in a position where they could

710
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: have won the whole thing this year. You don't have

711
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: to get over another hump. You just gotta play better

712
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: on that one day. That's it. Well, if you believe that,

713
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: then you're probably answering with b in this Twitter poll

714
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: today in terms of helping the Bills pass Rush further

715
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: developed the talent on the roster. The problem. If you

716
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: think you're already over the hump, here's the thing. Yeah,

717
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: the philosophy is one you know, talked about a minute ago.

718
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to replace John Feliciano or resigned. They're

719
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: gonna to replace Darryl Williams or resign him. They're gonna

720
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: have to do something about Matt Milano's position, resign him

721
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: or whatever. They're gonna have to. You know, they've got

722
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: holes already in their roster. They're gonna be a completely

723
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: different team this next year. No matter what. Spend the

724
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: money on in place, whatever it is. Spend the money

725
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: on places where you have a really good reason to

726
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: believe you're gonna get your money's worth. I think it's

727
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: really gonna be difficult for JJ Watt to be worth

728
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: fifteen seventeen million bucks a year. I don't think they

729
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: go there. That's to the value they would put on them.

730
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: That to me is dead money. Whatever JJ Watt give.

731
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: If he comes out and has makes fifteen million bucks

732
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: and you give him fifty and he gets five sacks,

733
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: that you wasted. You wasted ten million bucks, and that's

734
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: the risk involved. That's what you can't do. You've got

735
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: a fine guys on one year proof of deals who

736
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: have got a chip on their shoulder and they're gonna

737
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: be They're gonna their foot on the gas for seventeen

738
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: full weeks because they want to take another swing at

739
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: the pie. You gotta have guys that you're gonna get

740
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: value for the money you're giving them, not who have

741
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: given given other teams value in the past and just

742
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: want to get paid, you know, and they're taking it

743
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,479
Speaker 1: out of gear. You want guys that are gonna sign

744
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: the deal with the Bills and then shift gears. That's

745
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: what you gotta do, and that's the mentality it's gonna be.

746
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: That's why the Bills went out and they got Vernon Butler,

747
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: Mario Addison, Quintin Jefferson, they drafted a Japanessa, they got

748
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver, they got these young guys, and they got

749
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 1: these veterans who have something to prove. Or if they

750
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: don't like those guys, they have an out they can

751
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: say goodbye. But if one of those guys comes in

752
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: and has a stellar year, a phenomenal year, now you're

753
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: you're making hay. Now you're exactly where you want to be.

754
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: With a guy like JJ Watt, and certainly you know Quentin, Jefferson,

755
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 1: Butler Phillips, at Oliver, all those guys along with Addison,

756
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: the new guys came in, even Jerry Hughes. You need

757
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: those guys to hit it out of the park, and

758
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: if they don't, you got to look at their contract

759
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 1: and they gotta understand why. So it's I don't care

760
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: who it is. And this is why I don't get

761
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: really too caught up in the names on It's fun

762
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: to talk about, but Brownie, it's about getting your money's

763
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: worth for the amount of cap you spend, and if

764
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: you can outperform that in relation to other teams, you're deep.

765
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: You're deep in the playoffs again, right, And it doesn't

766
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: matter what it looks like. Yeah, And that's why I

767
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: tend to believe Brandon being and take him at his

768
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: word when he says we're not going to make any

769
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: of those big splashes, because typically they don't even in

770
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: a good cap yere here, you're in a restrictive cap year.

771
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: Are you swinging this big on a guy like this?

772
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 1: Only if the value is right. They're not spending fifteen

773
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: million dollars on JJ. Why that's just not happening. But

774
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: if they'll play for ten and a half, well maybe

775
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: maybe maybe, And that's and that's where we have to

776
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: try to determine here. But if there's gonna be a

777
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: market where six teams are running after him and chasing him,

778
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: he don't have to play for ten and a half

779
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: because somebody's gonna pay him more, right, And and that's

780
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: that's where we have to wait and see how that

781
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: all plays out. Would you rather have JJ Watt on

782
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: a fifteen year contract or would you rather have him

783
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: on a five year contract with twenty five million dollars

784
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: in incentives? How hard is he gonna play? I'll bet

785
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: he plays better under the five year deal or five

786
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: million dollars deal with the incentives? Well, yeah, you said

787
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: five years. I was like five You know what I mean?

788
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: Five million year contract with twenty five million dollars in

789
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: incentives that he maybe thinks he could get. Yeah, how

790
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: much better is he gonna play? He's gonna play a

791
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: ton better. But you know what is he willing to

792
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: undertake two? So he two? Does he have to take

793
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: that deal? On two sides? Story? Not have to take

794
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: that break time for us when we return, We're gonna

795
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: take a quick peek at the Australian Open. As we

796
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: know Jesse Pagoula, the had a successful run. Unfortunately it

797
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: came to an end. Steve was watching it. I was two.

798
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: I got parents that are tennis nuts and they were

799
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: texting to me like the last three day, last three matches,

800
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: so it was good. A lot of Americans, a lot

801
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: of American women on the women's side of the bracket,

802
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: even now as they head to the semifinals. We'll discuss

803
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: that briefly and then get back to our conversation here

804
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: about the d line back in a moment here on

805
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 1: One Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

806
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Jasper

807
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: with you here on a Wednesday, taking you up until

808
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: three o'clock. Got shield Capatia from the Athletic coming up

809
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: in about ten minutes time. I'm gonna talk about the

810
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: cars in one situation where the Eagles are at with

811
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: the cap which is not going to be pretty and

812
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: only gonna get worse when they move on from Carson

813
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: Wentz presumably via trade. And I also want to ask

814
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: him about zach Ertz, a guy in the final year

815
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: of his contract at eight and a quarter million, who

816
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: is one of those players expected to be thrust into

817
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: the free agent market and tossed overboard because of his

818
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: CAB figure in the restrictive cap situation that the entire

819
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: league is experiencing right now. Yeah, most of those guys

820
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: were talking about are thirty plus years old. There's not

821
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: all of them, but that's kind of be the common denominatory.

822
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: Gonna be guys long in the tooth, haven't had quite

823
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: the production they did earlier in their careers, and they're

824
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: still making a good buck. They're going to be in

825
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: danger of being out on the street, and ERTs is

826
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: one of those guys. Yeah, we did also want to

827
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: touch on the run that won Jesse Pagoula made in

828
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: the Australian Open. Twenty six year old American women's tennis

829
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: player went as far as she ever has in a major,

830
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: getting to the quarterfinals, the only unranked player on the

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00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: women's side to get that far after she upset a

832
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: twelve seed and a five seed in route to that match,

833
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: and faced fellow American Jennifer Brady and lost to her

834
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: in three sets. She won the first set six four.

835
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the match. I was in bed earlier.

836
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: I was tapped out because those games, those matches are

837
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: on late, being on the other side of the world.

838
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: But I got a text from my mom, who was

839
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: a tennis nut, like, she'll watch if there's tennis on,

840
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: she'll watch it. She doesn't care if it's you know,

841
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: the two hundred and seventieth ranked player in the world,

842
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: she'll watch it. And her assessment of the match was

843
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: she got off to a hot start but then looked

844
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: as though she was tiring late. And I think people

845
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: don't recognize because tennis isn't one of the traditional physical sports.

846
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: But you want to talk about wearing yourself out playing

847
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: every other day, and then if you have a couple

848
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: of three set matches instead of two sets, as it

849
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: is on the women's side, you have a couple of

850
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: those three set matches every other day, that's an extra

851
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: two sets you're playing that maybe somebody else isn't playing

852
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: if they're winning straight sets, and it has a cumulative effect.

853
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: And my mom thought that's what happened to Jesse the

854
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: commentinulative effect of playing extra sets, the commentator said that

855
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,959
Speaker 1: last night as well, she had a much tougher draw

856
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: than Jennifer Brady did. To get to the quarters, she had,

857
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: as you say, she had to beat a couple of

858
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: ranked players and she'd never beaten a top ten player anyway,

859
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: and then beat the number five to get to the

860
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: quarter and so it's a tough road for and you could.

861
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: She came out and played well. And I tell you

862
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: I was. I was. I told had a conversation with

863
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: Maddie yesterday. I was watching every every shot and I

864
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: was I've never been a tennis fan, but I was

865
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: all over these matches. Man. Yeah, I mean it was

866
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: growing into him growing up in the New York City area.

867
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 1: The US Open is right there in Queens and so

868
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: every end of it's like a labored a tradition exactly

869
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: down in the New York area. And it's big. I

870
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: mean it's you know, it's a big event down there.

871
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: Despite all of the sports that enveloped New York City. Uh,

872
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: It's it's an event down there every single year. I

873
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: mean I remember kids, it's big. You know, kids you

874
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: go to school with, I don't know their mom gets tickets.

875
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: They're going up, you know, the kids. There were tennis

876
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 1: players in high school. You know, they'd go to those

877
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: matches to be wearing their T shirt, garb stuff from

878
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: the US Open, and you know, you get all those

879
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, I still remember that Jimmy Connors match. The

880
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: guy's like thirty four years old and he's going to

881
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: five sets and he's just throwing. The guy's doing these

882
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: overhand smashes at him and he's getting him. He's up

883
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: against the wall and he's like still flinging him back,

884
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: these giant lobs. Just right. The crowd goes bananas in

885
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: New York. It's it's an event, I'll tell you how big.

886
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: When I don't know anything about tennis, I still don't

887
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: know that much about it. But I remember thinking my

888
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: first exposure the US Open was I was working for

889
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: CBS Sports. You know, Dick Enberg and all those guys

890
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: you know used to do the US Open. And I

891
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: remember the first couple of weeks of the NFL season

892
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 1: always we were working with Makeshift Cruise in the NFL.

893
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: They were like mixing and matching, right, And I was like, who,

894
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm not working with my guys this week? Why not?

895
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: And everybody's working in the US Open, And I was

896
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: like uh, And like we're at they a finger quotes

897
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: seminar in New York, which is where they bring all

898
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: the announced cruis to New York in August, and they say, hey,

899
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: here's what, here's our And they have a big, huge meetings,

900
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: like a big auditorium, and we're it's full of you know,

901
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: the studio guys, the analysts that go out and do

902
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: work in the boost they played by play announcers, and

903
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: the producer director. Oh so we're all in there together,

904
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like going, why am I not working? Like

905
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: my buddy Bob Monsbach, who doesn't work for CBS anymore either.

906
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: I go, Monzi, why aren't we working? You know? He goes, Well,

907
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: he goes, I'm doing the US Open. I go to tennis.

908
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: I gave him that. He goes, you don't understand. I go,

909
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: what tell? What do you mean? He was? Listen, if

910
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: you went to US Open in person, you wouldn't believe

911
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: how how awesome it is. He goes, Yeah, he goes,

912
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: you got these guys. They're six six and they are athletic,

913
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: and they are pounding it. He goes, it's unbelievable. Can't

914
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: you can't take your eyes off it? I go, really,

915
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: he goes, yeah, he used it's awesome. So that's that

916
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: was my tennis thing. Yeah, was like third hand from

917
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: a guy who produced those games matches. So unfortunate that

918
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: her run came to a close, but certainly an encouraging

919
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: sign for things to come. For her to get to

920
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: the quarterfinals in a major, that's that takes some doing.

921
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: So I hope she goes on TV again. I'll tune

922
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: in to watch it for share go. Yeah, say Jesse's

923
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 1: one a fan of Steve chok At that it's a Buffalo. Yeah,

924
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm all about it, all about it. Yeah, yeah,

925
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: no question. I was bombed that, but yeah, good for

926
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: her though, congratulating usually that those things are stepping stones

927
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: for players on the way up. Those are stepping stones

928
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: to making it further in future future tournaments. So hopefully

929
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: that's what we see from Jesse on that break time

930
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: for US Shield Capatia from the Athletic coming up next

931
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: to talk Carson Wentz and maybe some other Eagles that

932
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: could be out there in the market that might catch

933
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo's eyes. It's anybody back in a flash here on

934
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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills

935
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: Radiofalo Bills Radio Network Sports Your Sports update from One

936
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. The Buffalo Savers dropped back to back games

937
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: against the Islanders, the latest of three nothings shut out

938
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: at the Key Bank Center. Islanders rookie goaltender Elias Serrokin

939
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: picked up his first NHL victory, making twenty saves. Buffalo

940
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: looks to get back on track when they head back

941
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 1: to the nation's capital to take on the Capitol's Thursday Night.

942
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: Jesse Pegoula, daughter of Bills owners Kim and Terry Pegoula,

943
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,919
Speaker 1: fell to fellow American Jennifer Brady in the semi farm

944
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: on the quarterfinals of the Australian Open on Wednesday. Pegoula

945
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,479
Speaker 1: won the first set, six four, and the first set

946
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: that Brady had lost so far during the entirety of

947
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: the tournament, but Pegoula couldn't hold the advantage from there,

948
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Speaker 1: as Brady rally to win the next two set six two,

949
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: six one to clinch the match in advanced to the semifinals.

950
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Speaker 1: Wat Watch continues the latest some news from a division

951
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: foe of the Texans, the Tennessee Titans. GM John Robinson

952
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: said his club has had preliminary discussions with Watt and

953
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: his representatives JJ Watt has been a thorn in the

954
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: side of the Titans for a decade, registering eighteen sacks

955
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Speaker 1: against the club, the most against any divisional opponent. In Cleveland,

956
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: they're also in need of a veteran pass rusher. The

957
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Speaker 1: Browns were one of the first teams to show interest

958
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: in Watt after he was released, and it appears the

959
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: interest could be mutual. Mary Kay cabot Off Cleveland dot

960
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: Com reports that Watt is seriously considering making his way

961
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: to Cleveland to play for the Browns. Among the reasons

962
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: that the Browns of cob Watt's eye is their cap

963
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: space that could make a deal possible, as well as

964
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: a roster he believes can compete for his Super Bowl.

965
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: Still waiting on the next quarterback moving the NFL, there

966
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: are teams interested as the Broncos have their eye on

967
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson if the Texans are willing to part

968
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: ways with the QB that According to a report from

969
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: ABC seven in Denver, the Broncos continue to look for

970
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: their first franchise QB since Peyton Manning, and there have

971
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: been only two reported suitors to land Carson Wentz in

972
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: a trade one's emerged from the other in efforts to

973
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: land the Eagles. Qb SI dot COM's Albert Greer revealed

974
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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears of the front runner over the Colts

975
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: to acquire Wentz. According to Ron Drawarski, though the Colts

976
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: offer the package including two second round draft picks for Wentz,

977
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Speaker 1: the Eagles are seeking at least a first rounder in

978
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: return for the former first round pick. That is your

979
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 1: sports update from One Bill's Drive. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

980
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: with you for our number two of the program, and

981
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 1: joining us on the line right now from the Athletic

982
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: is one Shield Capatia, who's been closely monitoring the development's

983
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: involving Carson Wentz, and he joins us now on the line, Shield,

984
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: how you doing doing well? Guys, how you doing We're

985
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: doing good? And why don't we start there because it

986
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: looks like, at least from most reports, it's a two

987
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: horse race here for the services of Carson Wentz. And

988
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if if the Eagles are necessarily bargaining

989
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: from a position of power, knowing the cap hit they're

990
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: gonna eat and the salary they're gonna be sending to

991
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: somebody else for a guy that has fallen on hard times,

992
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: not just this year. There's been a steady decline, as

993
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: you pointed out in a piece you wrote last November,

994
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: that the decline has been steady and precipitous for Carson Wentz. Yeah.

995
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 1: I think if you're a team trading for Carson Wentz,

996
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: you look at it and you can say a little

997
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: bit that twenty twenty was an outlier. You know, he was,

998
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: by every statistical measure, one of the worst starting quarterbacks

999
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL last season, if not the worst starting quarterback. Now,

1000
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: if you go back to twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen,

1001
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 1: he certainly was not like a top five MVP guy,

1002
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: but he was, you know, he was a little bit

1003
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Speaker 1: above average. I think most most statistical measures would have

1004
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: him around the tenth or eleventh best quarterback for those seasons.

1005
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 1: So I think if you're a team like the Colt

1006
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: or the Bears, or whoever's interested, you say, you know what,

1007
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: we can get that version of Carson Wentz, that twenty

1008
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: eighteen twenty nineteen version. Yet twenty twenty didn't go his way,

1009
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: but he had thirteen different offensive line combinations the coaching

1010
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: wasn't great, the supporting cast wasn't great, and he's only

1011
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: twenty eight years old. And so I think teams like

1012
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: the Colts, the Bears, maybe other teams that might be

1013
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: lurking a little bit seeing whether they want to add

1014
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. I think that's the mindset they're probably taking

1015
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: with this. What about the team they're gonna They're obviously

1016
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: gonna have to swallow over thirty million dollars in dead

1017
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: cap space. There's a roster bonus come up of ten

1018
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: million dollars. They want some compensation for this guy. If

1019
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to, you know, take the hit on

1020
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: the cap, they want to make it, you know, have

1021
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: something that's worth it for them, at least in the

1022
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: near future. What about the Eagles and where they sit

1023
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: in all this. What are they waiting on and what

1024
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: are they expect in return and what are they gonna

1025
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: have to what lumps are they gonna have to take? Yeah,

1026
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: I think from the Eagles perspective, it's about moving on

1027
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: from the player and kind of taking the sunk cost.

1028
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: You know that that money is going to be on

1029
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: their cap, whether they keep Carson Wentz or whether whether

1030
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: they trade Carson Wentz, and if they keep Carson Winz,

1031
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: not only are they committing twenty five million dollars to

1032
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: him this year, but he has a bon clause in

1033
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: his contract where fifteen million would be guaranteed for the

1034
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: following year if he's on your roster in March, and

1035
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: so that's forty million dollars you would be paying for

1036
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: a guy who right now, you know, we can pretty

1037
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: much convince ourselves that they don't believe he's fixable. And

1038
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: so I think that's where they're coming from. And so

1039
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: I know there's been reports about, you know, they want

1040
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: that Matthew Stafford deal. I think it's all part of negotiating.

1041
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: You know, you start high, you ask for as much

1042
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: as you can get. Maybe you have a team that

1043
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: really likes him. I think they're gonna have to certainly

1044
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: settle for less at this point. I'm not sure they're

1045
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: going to get a first round pick, you know, I've

1046
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: been saying something like maybe they get a first round pick,

1047
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: but they give up their second, so it's almost like

1048
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 1: a pick swap there and then maybe a conditional pick

1049
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 1: the following year, something that comes out to maybe two

1050
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: second round picks. A second and a third something like that.

1051
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: If they get more than that, I would be pretty impressed.

1052
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: So shield, let's take this a step further. Let's just

1053
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: to assume that the Wentz trade does come to fruition

1054
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: on a follow up level. This really kind of signals

1055
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: a complete teardown in Philadelphia, right, I Mean, this is

1056
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: a team that's not not in a good cap situation already.

1057
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 1: They're gonna incur another thirty four million in dead cap,

1058
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: as we all know, once the trade is complete. I mean,

1059
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 1: how can they really expect to compete, you know, next year.

1060
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they feel good about Jalen Hurts obviously,

1061
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: or they wouldn't be parting ways with Wentz. But they've

1062
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: got a new head coach, young guy, first time head coach.

1063
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: This just looks like a complete Nutter teardown, right Yeah,

1064
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: I think for the most part, that's how you have

1065
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: to look at it. And really, Jeffrey Lurry, the owner,

1066
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 1: has kind of admitted as much in his comments earlier

1067
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: this offseason. Because you mentioned it. You know, you don't

1068
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: have a quarterback solution for twenty twenty one. You have

1069
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 1: a first year head coach, they don't have a lot

1070
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: of young talented players on the roster. I mean you

1071
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: look at a lot of their best players, Fletcher Cox,

1072
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: Arius Slay, Jason Kelsey. I mean, these have all been

1073
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 1: good players in the NFL. All these guys are thirty

1074
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: years old or older, so you would expect them to

1075
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: be in the decline phase of their career. Now, they

1076
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: do have the number six overall pick, and so you know,

1077
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: they have a decision to make. If they find a

1078
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: quarterback there that they fall in love with, that they

1079
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: think it's sort of a generational prospect, then they certainly

1080
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: could consider quarterback at that spot, or I think the

1081
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: more likely scenario is they draft another position there. They

1082
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: go into twenty twenty one with Jalen Hurts. If Jalen

1083
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: Hurts plays well, well, hey, that's a great outcome. You

1084
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: kind of found yourself a quarterback. If he doesn't play well, well,

1085
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: you can move on and you can look for your

1086
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: quarterback in next year's draft because you're probably going to

1087
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: be picking high anyway. So that's kind of my sense

1088
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: of how they'll approach their quarterback situation once they do

1089
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: trade Carson Wentz. Well, so they got Carson Wentz, who

1090
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: a lot of people you know, obviously there's at least

1091
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: a couple of teams out there who think he is fixable.

1092
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: Why can't the Eagles fix him? And you know, with

1093
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson who had such great success with him early on,

1094
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: certainly the coaching staff changed around him and all of that.

1095
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: But why don't the Eagles fix him if he's fixable?

1096
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: And what happened with the relationship with the organization, and

1097
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: how does Carson feel about the organization let alone, you know,

1098
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson and all those guys, what's going on with

1099
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: how they got to this point. Yeah, it's absolutely a

1100
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: fair question, and you can only look at their actions

1101
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: and what they do and kind of throw what they

1102
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: say out the window. At this point. And let's be honest,

1103
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: they are looking to move a twenty eight year old

1104
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: quarterback who they just signed a couple off seasons ago

1105
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: to one hundred and twenty eight million dollar extension. They

1106
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: are willing to take the biggest dead cap hit in

1107
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: NFL history to move him, and so that tells you

1108
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: they don't think he's fixable. Now, I will say, you know,

1109
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: some of the issues he's had in terms of his

1110
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: accuracy not being very good, He's had a huge fumbling issue.

1111
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: I mean, these are things that have been kind of

1112
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: prevalent throughout the course of his career, and he has

1113
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: not shown the ability to address those, to fix those weaknesses.

1114
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: So I think if you're the Eagles, you're looking at

1115
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: it and saying, you know what, maybe there's a chance

1116
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: he becomes like a you know, a top ten, top

1117
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: twelve quarterback. But that ceiling really isn't there. The relationship

1118
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: is fractured. I think Carson Wentz certainly would like to

1119
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: move on and get a fresh start somewhere else. And

1120
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: you just look at it and you say, you know what,

1121
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: it was a sunk cost, it was a bad move,

1122
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: but we're going to move in a different direction here

1123
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: at quarterback. And then, just to follow up on my

1124
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: teardown question that I asked you, shiel zach Ertz, you know,

1125
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: he's got a year left on his deal at eight

1126
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: and a quarter million. Most people are of the opinion

1127
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: he's going to be trimmed off of that roster also,

1128
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: along with what could be a host of other veterans.

1129
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: What is he looking for? I know he was very

1130
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: emotional at the end of the season, you know, I

1131
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: think he sensed that his relationship with the organization was ending.

1132
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: But still a guy that's got a lot of game

1133
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: left as I see it, and you know, the Bills

1134
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: are looking to upgrade a tight end. I'm just kind

1135
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: of wondering what he might command on the open market

1136
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: if he could get back to that eight million dollars

1137
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: figure at thirty years old. Yeah, it's a good question.

1138
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: It's hard to really evaluate a lot of their players

1139
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: from last year because the whole thing was just such

1140
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: a train wreck from coaching staff to injuries on the

1141
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: offensive line and the scheme and the way Wentz performed,

1142
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: and so it's tough to look at it and determine

1143
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: how much of that was what everyone else was doing

1144
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: and how much of that was kind of the individual player.

1145
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: You know, I know Zach Ertz in his prime. What

1146
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: coach has always said about him was that this guy

1147
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: knows how to use leverage better than any player I've

1148
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: ever seen. I remember an Eagles assistant coach telling me that.

1149
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: So he is just kind of a master route runner,

1150
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: a technician. He's not a guy who's going to pick

1151
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: up a lot of yards after the catch. He's not

1152
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: a downfield threat. But if you need someone to kind

1153
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: of work that intermediate part of the field. If you

1154
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: need someone to get open on third down, who can

1155
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: win against safeties and win against linebackers and be a

1156
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: threat in the red zone. That's something I still think

1157
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,919
Speaker 1: he can do, and he can do at a high

1158
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: level if he's in the right system with a good quarterback.

1159
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was surprised at kind of the Earth's news.

1160
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: I guess it was earlier this week garnered some headlines

1161
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: because locally it's pretty much been a given that zach

1162
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: Ertz isn't coming back to the Eagles. It's just a

1163
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,479
Speaker 1: matter of whether they release him or whether they're able

1164
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: to get anything from him. He wanted a contract extension

1165
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: before last season that didn't happen, and so now I

1166
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: think he'll either be part of a trade or he'll

1167
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: just be released and he'll get a chance to kind

1168
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,439
Speaker 1: of sign with whatever team he thinks is the best fit. Well,

1169
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: at the current point of history in the NFL with

1170
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: a shrinking cap this coming year, we've been talking a

1171
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: lot about the flooded market of free agents, and it

1172
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: looks like it's going to be a bunch of guy.

1173
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: If you're thirty years old and making a really good money,

1174
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: making some really good money. You're gonna be out on

1175
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: the street because of the cap constraints for a lot

1176
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: of teams are in, which means there's gonna be some

1177
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: pretty notable players available. This last week, JJ Watt Ashbourne

1178
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: was granted his release. What kind of market do you

1179
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: think there is for a guy a three time Defensive

1180
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: Player of the Year at this point in his career.

1181
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: He just played all sixteen games this last year, so

1182
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: he showed he can stay healthy at least in that year.

1183
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: What do you think about JJ Watt, the likely landing spots,

1184
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: what he's going to command, and the market for him. Yeah,

1185
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: this is the ultimate like high risk, high reward move

1186
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: for whichever team takes on JJ Watt, because we know

1187
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: the guy can still play. I think he was double

1188
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: teamed as much as any player in the NFL last year,

1189
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: maybe aside from Aaron Donald when you look at some

1190
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: of the stats around it. So he did not have

1191
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: a lot of help with Houston. You know, they had

1192
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: one of the worst defenses in the entire NFL and

1193
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: they didn't have a lot of other pass rushers, so

1194
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,919
Speaker 1: teams were really able to key in on JJ Watt. Now,

1195
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: he did play all sixteen games last season. If you

1196
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: look at the previous four seasons, he missed half the games.

1197
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: I mean he missed thirty two games in a span

1198
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: of four seasons. So health is just going to be

1199
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: something you either decide you're willing to take a risk

1200
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: on because the upside is there, or you say that's

1201
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: not where we want to spend our cap money. Like

1202
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: you just mentioned, you know, teams, a lot of teams

1203
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: are not going to have a lot of cap space

1204
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: where they're going to say, all right, we can make

1205
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: a ton of moves. And so if you're going to

1206
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: commit money to JJ Watt, then you are taking a

1207
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: little bit of a gamble. But for a team like

1208
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: the Bills, for a team like the Green Bay Packers,

1209
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, some of these teams that are contending, and

1210
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: you really feel like, man, if he's healthy, he can

1211
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: be a legit difference maker in our front seven. I

1212
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: totally understand taking that risk and trying to take a

1213
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: flyer on him. Now, in terms of his value, it's

1214
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: tough to say. You know, I think if you look

1215
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: at last offseason and some of the players, some of

1216
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: the good pass rushers who were kind of in their

1217
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: early thirties, like JJ Watt. You know, a guy like

1218
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paul comes to mind, and I think he's

1219
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: signed like a two year, twenty five million dollar contract,

1220
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: So I think that's probably the range that you're looking

1221
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: at is probably twelve thirteen million dollars a year. Again,

1222
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: it always only takes one team if somebody fall in

1223
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: love with him and says, hey, this guy is a

1224
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: Hall of famer, look at his career. We love everything

1225
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: he brings to the table. We're going to go higher

1226
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: than that. That can always happen, But I think probably

1227
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: that twelve thirteen million dollar range is just kind of

1228
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: an estimate of what it might take to land JJ

1229
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: one talking to Shield Capati of NFL, writer for The Athletic,

1230
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: and I know recently, Shield, you had the Bills pretty

1231
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 1: highly ranked in your NFL Power rankings for twenty twenty one.

1232
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: Maybe just tell us first where you had him. I

1233
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: know you had him in the top five. Tell us

1234
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: where you had him, and then why you feel why

1235
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: you're so bullish on them for next season. Yeah, I

1236
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: think I had him at at number four. And the

1237
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: purpose of this exercise was to look ahead and say,

1238
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: all right, when it's Week one, which teams are going

1239
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: to be best positioned to be contenders for the Super

1240
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: Bowl in twenty twenty one. So that's taking everything into account,

1241
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: draft capital, cap space, free agents that might lead, coaching

1242
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: staff changes, all those different types of things, and I

1243
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: just feel like they are in very good position to compete.

1244
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: I know they've got to get some things figured out

1245
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: on their offensive line with Feliciano and Darryl Williams, but

1246
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: I feel like if they can do that, they are

1247
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: in good shape to again have a top five offense.

1248
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 1: And to me, that's how you sustain success in the NFL.

1249
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: If you can build that top five offense and maintain

1250
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: continuity with the quarterback and the play caller, you're going

1251
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: to be in the mix pretty much every year. So

1252
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: I think as long as that offensive line comes together

1253
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: and they make whatever moves they want to, whether it's

1254
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: keeping those players or adding players from elsewhere who are good,

1255
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: they're going to be in good shape. And then defensively,

1256
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: we'll see what they do, We'll see what happens with

1257
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: Matt Milano. I think certainly they could stand to add

1258
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: a difference maker in the front seven, whether that's JJ

1259
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: Watt or someone else, whether that's free agency or the draft.

1260
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: But I think it is still a well coached defense.

1261
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have continuity there in the secondary

1262
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: where those guys have played together, they know what to

1263
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: do in terms of those zone covers. That's Sean McDermott

1264
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: and Leslie Frasier play and so I think that defense

1265
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: has a pretty high floor. And depending on who they

1266
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: add that, you know, they could potentially have a high

1267
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Speaker 1: ceiling as well. Give us a couple of bold predictions

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Speaker 1: for the next twelve months in the NFL. Oh Man,

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Speaker 1: this is you know, yeah, I wrote this pace for

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Speaker 1: the Athletic. The Deshaun Watson think kind of hangs over

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Speaker 1: the entire offseason. You know. It's like if you're a

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Speaker 1: team looking for a quarterback and you're saying, all right,

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01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: Carson went Sam Darld, you know, maybe some other guys

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01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: will be available, but hold on, we don't want to

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Speaker 1: do anything until we figure out whether Deshaun Watson is

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Speaker 1: available or not. So I know the Texans right now

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01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: are saying he won't be available, but and that could

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01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: be the case. I think that's smart that they should

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01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: try to fix things with him and hang onto him

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01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: and have him be their face of the franchise. But

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01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: the truth is, if at some point they say, you

1282
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 1: know what, Deshaun doesn't want to be here, He's not

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01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: going to give in. He's willing to sit out games,

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01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: we've got to make a call. And it's better to

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Speaker 1: make a call now before the draft when teams are

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Speaker 1: really looking for a quarterback, then would be in September,

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Speaker 1: and let's open it up. Let's do what the Lions

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01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: did with Matthew Stafford, and let's see who might make

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01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: an offer for him. If they were to put Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson on the open market, I mean, the compensation they

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01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: would get back could be like nothing we've seen in

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Speaker 1: the past decade here, I mean maybe in NFL history.

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01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: And so one of the bold predictions I had when

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Speaker 1: I was looking at which team could make a move

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Speaker 1: for Watson, I kept coming back to the San Francisco

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers. I mean, if I were the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers and I'm looking at it and I get

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01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: word that he's available, I'm not sure what price would

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01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: be too high for me to not go all in

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01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 1: on that. Because if you have DeShawn Watson and Kyle

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Speaker 1: Shanahan paired together for the next five years minimum, maybe

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01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: longer than that, maybe the next decade. I just feel

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01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 1: like you're going to be in the mix in the NFC,

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01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: regardless of whether you give up three four first round

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01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: picks or give up a player like Nick Bosa. So

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01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: that was one of the ones I had on there

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01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: was that San Francisco. Ultimately, the Texans decide, you know what, untenable,

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01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna make a move, and the forty nine ers

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01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: come in and say, hey, let's go all in. Let's

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01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: pare Watson with Shanahan, and let's go win some Super bowls.

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Speaker 1: Last one for me. Shield kind of deals with the

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01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 1: rest of the division. It looks, at least right now,

1313
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: like the Dolphins are fine with, you know, growing and

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01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: developing to his game. I mean, they were in the

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01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: early discussions for Watson, but it seems to have died

1316
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: down now. Darnald is a stay or ghost situation that

1317
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 1: nobody seems to really have their ear to the ground

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01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 1: on at least yet, so he could be there. They

1319
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: may choose to go with a fresh start with their

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01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 1: high draft choice, and then the Patriots obviously need a

1321
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,799
Speaker 1: quarterback answer, So, maybe just break down how you see

1322
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: the Jet situation with Darnald in their high draft choice,

1323
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: and what the heck Belichick's gonna do to fix his problems. Yeah,

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01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: I think the Jets. You know, it's tough, and I

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01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 1: don't have a great sense of it. I think that

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01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 1: if I were leaning one way or the other, I

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01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 1: would say that they would probably trade Darnald and maybe

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01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: try to drap to quarterback here and start fresh and

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01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: maybe get some draft capital for Sam Darnold and move

1330
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: forward with kind of a new regime. But that one

1331
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: could really go either way. The Patriots, to me, are

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01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: one of the most interesting teams this offseason because if

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01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,440
Speaker 1: we ever wanted a natural experiment for how Bill Belichick

1334
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: think thinks you should build a roster in the year

1335
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, we're basically going to get that because

1336
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: the Patriots have all kinds of cap space where they

1337
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: can go in a number of different directions. They're not

1338
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: tied to a quarterback. They have a higher draft pick

1339
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 1: than they've ever had before, and so do they take

1340
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 1: a big swing for a quarterback via trade or free agency?

1341
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: Do they say we don't need to do that we'll

1342
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: kind of wait for one of these lower level free

1343
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 1: agents like we did last year. We'll build the roster

1344
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: around him. Do they draft a quarterback there in the

1345
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: first round? So they can go in so many different ways,

1346
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 1: and they have money to spend. You know, Stephan Gilmore

1347
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: as a guy I think they could end up trading

1348
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: and that could open up some cap space there as well.

1349
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 1: So they're a team that I'm watching that I think

1350
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: we're not used to them maybe being the most active

1351
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: team when it comes to the off season. For it seemed,

1352
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 1: what was it, fifteen years or so, it was basically

1353
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: run it back, makes some moves, but you know it's

1354
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,560
Speaker 1: Brady and Belichick. But this offseason is going to be

1355
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,959
Speaker 1: a lot different where we're gonna find out what positions

1356
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: Belichick values, where he thinks there are kind of marketing efficiencies,

1357
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: and how he decides to build that roster going forward

1358
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: in kind of this new new era. For last one,

1359
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: for me, there's two quarterbacks that are that one might

1360
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 1: be off the radar, but Ben Roethlisberger and Pittsburgh they're

1361
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: probably gonna restructure him, bring him back. They'll make that

1362
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 1: work somehow, because quite frankly, there's no replace for them

1363
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: to go. And the second one, Dak Prescott, are the

1364
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys gonna yet again put it off for a year,

1365
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: franchise him, put off the negotiations for a year. Get

1366
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: to look at what he looks like after his broken leg.

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01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Ben Roethlisberger and Dak Prescott, what do you

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01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 1: see in either one of those scenarios? Yeah, Roethlisberger, I

1369
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: think you're right. I think that's the most likely scenario.

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Speaker 1: You know, our beat writer Ed Bouschett from The Athletic

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01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: has had some interesting reporting there where he said, like

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01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 1: slow down, don't don't totally pencil that one in yet.

1373
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: You know, Ben Roethlisberger has to meet with ownership. They've

1374
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: got an agree on a restructured deal, and then they've

1375
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: got to decide where to go. And don't forget their

1376
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: center Pouncy he retired. They could lose some very key

1377
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: free agents and Juju Smith, Schuster, Bud Dupree. It's almost

1378
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 1: a natural spot for the Steelers to think about rebuilding

1379
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: and revamping that roster a little bit. So do they

1380
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 1: come to an agreement with Roethlisberger and say, all right,

1381
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: we'll keep him for one more year and see what

1382
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: happens in twenty twenty one, or could that be a

1383
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: surprise where those two sides part ways. I think that's

1384
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on in the next few

1385
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 1: weeks here. And then Dak Prescott, Yeah, it's every year

1386
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: we're talking about this situation and tip if I'm Dak

1387
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: Prescott or advising him, there's no real impetus for me

1388
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: to sign a long term deal and given at all

1389
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: this offseason because if you look at it, if the

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01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: Cowboys do us the franchise tag on Dak Prescott, he's

1391
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: gonna make over thirty seven million dollars this year, and

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01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 1: not only that, but he's going to enter free agency

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01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: after twenty twenty one. So that is a great scenario

1394
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: for the player right there. It's very similar to what

1395
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: we saw with Kirk Cousins in Washington, where you say,

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01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 1: go ahead, you can use the franchise tag on me

1397
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: two years in a row, and then I'm gonna be

1398
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 1: able to test the market and really find out what

1399
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: my worth is. So if you're the Cowboys and you

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01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 1: really want to be serious about trying to bring him

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01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: back on a long term extension so that you don't

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01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 1: have to use the franchise tag. I mean, you're talking

1403
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 1: about probably spending thirty nine forty million dollars a year

1404
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: on Dak Prescott on like a four year deal, and

1405
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 1: so they haven't been willing to go that far up

1406
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: to this point. Maybe it'll change, maybe they'll decide they'll

1407
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 1: do it this offseason, but that one could be headed

1408
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: for a franchise tag in a situation where this time

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01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: next year we're talking about where's Dak Prescott going to

1410
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,799
Speaker 1: end up? Hard to believe that a guy that busted

1411
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: his ankle, you know, late in the season has his

1412
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 1: team over a barrel. But Dak Prescott, he really does.

1413
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: I mean, they have botched that thing to high heaven.

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01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks very much for the time. We appreciate

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01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 1: the insight. Take care of guys. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: All right. That's Shil Capatio, an NFL writer for The

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01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:18,759
Speaker 1: Athletic we Uh. I gotta say, it's just Jerry Jones

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01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 1: had a reputation of being a pretty good negotiator. They

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01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 1: didn't get this one right. He's he's a good negotiator.

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01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: He can't get this one right, and he didn't get

1421
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 1: the Ezekiel Elliot one right either because he paid the

1422
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: running back. It's two in a row. It's exactly right,

1423
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 1: one of the most important position. He should have done that.

1424
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 1: And what are you doing? What are you doing? I'm

1425
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 1: totally with you. He should have paid Dak and let

1426
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: Zeke hit the market. That was that was a huge one.

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01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: What's easier to replace? You're right, I'm totally with you

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01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 1: running and I get it. Zeke had that rookie year

1429
01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 1: that was just amazing. But he did it behind a

1430
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 1: dominant offensive line. I'll say this for for people make

1431
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 1: fun of Jerry Jones for a lot of reasons whatever.

1432
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: The guy loves his team and too much. When he

1433
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 1: first got the team, he didn't know you know, But

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01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,719
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what over the last twenty five thirty years,

1435
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: the guy knows talent and he does stack that roster. Yes,

1436
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 1: and I and I I tip my hat to him.

1437
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 1: The guy, he says, I overpay for everything that I

1438
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 1: really want. He goes and I don't mind doing it.

1439
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 1: And he might have gotten himself in a stag here.

1440
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes he doesn't think with his heart, I mean head.

1441
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: He does think with his heart, um, and this may

1442
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: be one of those. But I'll tell you this though,

1443
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: that if if you're a fan of a team, and

1444
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: i'm I'm Jerry's the kind of guy, guy who just

1445
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: loves lives it, eats it, breathes it, you know, and

1446
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: eats it for dessert. Um, he's engaged. Now you need

1447
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 1: somebody in the room, maybe it's his son or what

1448
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: it's to say like dad, no, you're not doing that,

1449
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 1: you know, and have the guys say okay, all right, right,

1450
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: but there ain't nobody there like that, right, And I

1451
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: don't think too many people tell Jerry no. So that's

1452
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 1: the problem. So i'm you know, that's the only week

1453
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 1: that is the weakness with the Cowboys. There's nobody in

1454
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 1: that room saying no, no, Jerry, no, we ain't doing that.

1455
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 1: There's nobody there like that, and hence their problems. Break

1456
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 1: time for us, But when we come back, we'll get

1457
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: a look at the tweet sheet. See what you guys

1458
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 1: think about the best way to improve Buffalo's pass rush

1459
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 1: this offseason, to have it in a better place than

1460
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: it was in twenty twenty. Choices for you there and

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01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 1: one Bills Live. We're back in a flash. It's Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live Brown Steve

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01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 1: Tasker with you, and we'll get to the tweet sheet

1464
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: in a second. But there is some news coming out

1465
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: as Pittsburgh Steelers GM Kevin Colbert was talking today to

1466
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: the media down there in Pittsburgh, and he was noncommittal

1467
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 1: on Ben Roethlisberg. You're playing for them in twenty twenty

1468
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: one because there is a lot of fixing that needs

1469
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: to get done with his contract. So you know, like

1470
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 1: those commercials deep discounts, Ben better be ready to take

1471
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: a deep discount if he wants to be there next

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01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: season as is forty one million dollars against the cap

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01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: as is from start to finish that begins on March ninth,

1474
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 1: when they got to give him a check for fifteen million. Yeah,

1475
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 1: March nineteenth, March date that he is due a fifteen

1476
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: roster bonus. Yeah. Yeah, I'm thinking the Steelers would like

1477
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:56,839
Speaker 1: to go maybe fifteen to twenty for the whole years

1478
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: and everything. I don't know that Ben is willing to

1479
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 1: go there now, he has said he's not going to

1480
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 1: be there. Ben understands he he says, I'll redo my deal,

1481
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: no problem. Now, I don't know whether he thinks all right,

1482
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: I'll do the deal, but you gotta guarantee me all

1483
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 1: the money that's on the deal now. But which you

1484
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 1: know Steelers are thinking, No, I ain't. That's the whole point.

1485
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 1: We ain't gonna do that. I mean, let me ask

1486
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: you if where are you on the Steelers Because Juju

1487
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: Smith Schuster is a free agent with the cat problems,

1488
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: he's not coming back. Um, they're left tack Old Villaineuve

1489
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: a free agent. Puncy retires to Castro's in his twelfth year.

1490
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 1: I mean, you got an aging team there. I'm wondering.

1491
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if you just tear the whole thing down

1492
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: and say, Ben, let's it's time to ride off into

1493
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 1: the sunset. You want to play? You know, we'd love to,

1494
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 1: you know, have a going away party for you the

1495
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: right way here for all you've done for us. But man,

1496
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 1: we got to start over here. Well, he's no matter

1497
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:55,839
Speaker 1: what happens this season, the guy's a legend in Pittsburgh,

1498
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 1: no question. I mean he deserves to be. He's one

1499
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,799
Speaker 1: of their all time great quarterbacks. Maybe they're great quarterback

1500
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 1: outside of the four championships. That Starbuck, I mean that

1501
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 1: Bradshaw one. I still think, Yeah, Ben's Ben's one of

1502
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 1: the great ones. Yeah, He's a Hall of Famer. So

1503
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 1: no matter how this season goes, that's not going to change.

1504
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: I think if you're gonna pay, if you're gonna do anything,

1505
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: he may be the only piece you bring back. You

1506
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 1: might just clear the decks of everybody. Go out in

1507
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: this open free agent get underneath the cap as far

1508
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 1: as you can get, restructure Ben's deal, get him back

1509
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 1: for as cheap a dime as you can. Go out

1510
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: and buy your team for this next year and put

1511
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 1: it together from the ground up this offseason. Do it

1512
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 1: all this offseason. They need a running back, they need

1513
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 1: a couple of offensive line is a free agent two.

1514
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 1: Their offensive line was is a shell of what it

1515
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 1: was when they were blowing open holes for Levi Ben.

1516
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 1: That's also a problem because Ben doesn't move around. That's right.

1517
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 1: So what I do if I'm the Steel I do

1518
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: whatever I can to revamp Absolutely anybody that can save

1519
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 1: me money on the cap gets kicked the kick to

1520
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: the curb. Everybody and you start from and this free

1521
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:16,759
Speaker 1: agent mark, because here's why you keep Ben and everybody

1522
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 1: else gets sprinkled in around him with with free agents

1523
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: and one of year deals and as big as you

1524
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 1: build the team as much as you can with the

1525
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 1: flooded free agent market that you got going right now,

1526
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 1: and do what you can um because I there's no

1527
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 1: way they're gonna find anybody who's gonna play better than

1528
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: and throw the ball better than Ben Roethlisberger. I don't

1529
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: care who it is. Certainly it's not going to be

1530
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 1: Carson wentz Uh, It's not gonna be Marcus Mariota. It's

1531
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 1: not gonna be who else is out there that we've

1532
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: been talking about. Oh, quarterbacks, Yeah, yeah, Sam Donald's not

1533
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,799
Speaker 1: gonna outthrow Ben Roethlisberger. Even at this point in his career,

1534
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger can is an elite thrower of the football. Now,

1535
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: his arms with year, his arm is not as strong

1536
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 1: as it was, but his release is great, his timing

1537
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 1: is great, his accuracy is still there. The guy has

1538
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 1: an understanding of the game. All of that, you don't switch.

1539
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 1: You keep him and throw everybody else away, and you

1540
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 1: build it and you start from screaming knowing it's probably

1541
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 1: just for one more year. Now, you start with the

1542
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 1: offensive line, give him a little time. You got a

1543
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 1: couple of free agent wide receivers out there you can

1544
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: go get the market's going to be flooded. You draft

1545
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 1: some guys, you build a team. I don't even know

1546
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 1: that you need receivers quite frankly, because you got Claypool

1547
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 1: Johnson in Washington. Those are your top three, Right, you

1548
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 1: got some guys, and you know you draft. Maybe if

1549
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 1: you get in you could draft at n or Nagie

1550
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 1: Harrison in the draft. They'll be available when they pop

1551
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 1: up in the first time. Lineman though, Man, right, you

1552
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: got but you got you got free agency to get through.

1553
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 1: Get those guys. Get a bunch of middle of the

1554
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 1: road veteran free agent offensive lineman who can get you

1555
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 1: through this season and then go go from there. So

1556
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 1: the quote from Steelers GM Kevin Colbert was, as we

1557
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: sit here today Ben as a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1558
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 1: He reiterated to us that he wants to continue to play.

1559
01:20:58,280 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: We told him we have to look at his current

1560
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 1: in situation. Ben did a lot of really good things

1561
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 1: last year. We anticipate that he could still do really

1562
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 1: good things going forward. Hopefully we can figure out how

1563
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 1: to do what's best for the organization and for Ben.

1564
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,839
Speaker 1: Hopefully he'll be able to see that. That just screams

1565
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 1: deep discounts to me. And whether or not he's willing

1566
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: to stomach that to play another year. How low will

1567
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 1: Ben go? How low really go? And what will the

1568
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,639
Speaker 1: Steelers do around him? That's it. And they're thirty million

1569
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 1: over the cap, they got a long way to go.

1570
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 1: They probably want Ben to be the lion's share of

1571
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 1: that savings. And that's I think that's what you do.

1572
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 1: That's where you begin. I think that's where you begin.

1573
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: I still I think Ben Roethlisberger is the probably even

1574
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 1: even when you throw T. J. Watt in the mix,

1575
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: I still think Roethlisberger's the most important player on that team. Yeah,

1576
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 1: all right. I think it's treed down time in Pittsburgh

1577
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:03,600
Speaker 1: in a lot of areas to the point where you

1578
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 1: got to kind of revamp things. And maybe you're not

1579
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 1: pushing for the playoffs this year, but if you revamp

1580
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 1: it the right way and you get a quarterback, which

1581
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,640
Speaker 1: is a big if, it could be back in the

1582
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 1: hunt sooner rather than later. It's one of those things

1583
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 1: where what's your philosophy better a year too early than

1584
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 1: a year too late kind of thing. And I'm wondering

1585
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 1: if they go another year with Ben it might be

1586
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: a year too late. Maybe, but there's no reason to

1587
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 1: think he's going to fall off a cliff. Well, there

1588
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 1: were some precarious weeks there in the second half of

1589
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 1: the season last year. I was like, Oh, that doesn't

1590
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,759
Speaker 1: look like the same guy I remember. So we'll see.

1591
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 1: We do want to get to the tweet sheet, which

1592
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 1: is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official

1593
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 1: equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills, in terms of

1594
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 1: what you think is the best way to help the

1595
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: Bills pass rush this offseason, And we begin with Nick,

1596
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 1: who says, I really think one elite pass rusher or

1597
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 1: at least some sort of difference maker on the d

1598
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: line is needed. If we need to cut some of

1599
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 1: our current players to make cap space, then we should

1600
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 1: do that. Aside from Hughes, I don't think anybody is

1601
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 1: absolutely critical to keep. What do you think of that?

1602
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 1: Especially his last point, is anybody really critical to keep

1603
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 1: on that defensive line? Probably Star Right, that's really your

1604
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: your only critical guy, I mean critical, Steve, it's Star Right.

1605
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 1: Could you live without any one of those other guys? Well,

1606
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 1: here's probably yeah, But here's the thing. Yeah, for sure,

1607
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 1: you can live without any of them. But are you

1608
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 1: gonna thrive? I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. I

1609
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: don't know that upecially with the rotation system. You got

1610
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,719
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver on a rookie contract. You got a japanez

1611
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 1: on a rookie contract, John Daryl Johnson on a rookie contract.

1612
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips is finishing up a rookie contract. So they're

1613
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 1: all here. You know that, right, And Star and Zimmer

1614
01:23:53,360 --> 01:24:01,480
Speaker 1: is cheap, so you're taught. What you're talking about is Hughes, Butler, Addison, Butler, Jefferson.

1615
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 1: Yea of those four you may have to part ways

1616
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 1: with one of them if you want to sign a

1617
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: veteran free agent that you believe takes you to the

1618
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 1: next level. Yeah, and it maybe two of them, maybe

1619
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 1: two of them, right, maybe two of them. That's all

1620
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: you're talking about, I say, all but yeah, And it's

1621
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 1: you know, Quentin Jefferson and Vernon Butler the defensive tackles,

1622
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: Mario Addison's the defensive end. All those other guys are

1623
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 1: dirt cheap because you got those five guys at the top. Well,

1624
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: it was five, now it's four. Because Trent Murphy's a

1625
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 1: free agent, it's it's Star, Jefferson, Butler, Addison, and Hughes.

1626
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 1: So it's five. Is there an elite pass rusher there

1627
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 1: right now? Roster? Well? Where is? Jerry Hughes is considered

1628
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:53,839
Speaker 1: by all the analytics people a top five pass rusher.

1629
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 1: He wins at a high rate. The problem is he's

1630
01:24:56,439 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 1: he gets no help, gets double teamed, and he you know,

1631
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 1: the ball's gone. He can't get sacks. And that's the

1632
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,679
Speaker 1: other thing that they have to consider. Does an elite

1633
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 1: pass rusher not only make your pass rush better? Does

1634
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,679
Speaker 1: it make your other pass rushers better? Because the attention

1635
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: that that guy's garnering. It could very well be the case.

1636
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 1: I mean, Jerry Hughes had back to back ten sacks

1637
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 1: seasons on this team when he had Mario Williams on

1638
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 1: the other side, right, because you get back to that

1639
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: with Jerry, If you get an elite pass rusher, it's

1640
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 1: a question that you have to try to project an

1641
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,759
Speaker 1: answer at this point. I mean, Jerry's gonna be thirty

1642
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 1: two two, so I mean that's that's old. It's not ancient.

1643
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 1: You know, you can still get a lot of production

1644
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 1: into of a guy like Jerry Hughes at that age,

1645
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 1: and so I'm yeah, the top five guys, five of

1646
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 1: the top eleven guys on the team, six of the

1647
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 1: top of less, six of the top eleven or defensive line. Yeah,

1648
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,600
Speaker 1: that's a big number. That's why if you add on

1649
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 1: the defensive line, you will invariably have to subtract. You

1650
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 1: cannot invest that heavily in one position group. I know

1651
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,640
Speaker 1: it's one of the highest numbered position groups because you

1652
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 1: have upwards of nine or ten players, and in an

1653
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 1: offseason you've got even more than that, got eight guys

1654
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 1: active on game day. But still you can't. You can't

1655
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 1: go back to the well and pay big money for

1656
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 1: a veteran free agent without subtracting somewhere else on your

1657
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 1: defensive line in terms of money on game day. Because

1658
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 1: Trent Murphy was inactive for like second half of the

1659
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 1: season a lot, it was Daryl Johnson, a japan Az A,

1660
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,520
Speaker 1: Mario Addison, Jerry Hughes, those were the four defensive ends.

1661
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 1: On the other side, it was Quentin Jefferson, Vernon Butler

1662
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 1: at Oliver and Harrison Phillips or Justin Zimmer was up

1663
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 1: and Harrison Phillipson. Phillips was down. They go with eight

1664
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: guys and they want and what they're looking for is

1665
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 1: we've set it a ton. They want quick pressure with

1666
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 1: four guys defensively. That's that's the magic potion for any

1667
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 1: defense in the NFL, and the Bills are searching for it.

1668
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,640
Speaker 1: I've gone on and on. Two years ago, it was

1669
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,680
Speaker 1: at Oliver first round draft pick. This last year is

1670
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 1: a J. Eppen as a first round draft pick, second

1671
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 1: round draft pick, but the first first pick, and then

1672
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: you know you and then the three free agents they

1673
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 1: brought in this last year, Butler, Jefferson and Addison, and

1674
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 1: they're still looking I think I think they're kind of

1675
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: looking at themselves, going let's go out and take another swing.

1676
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 1: See or if they're looking at and saying, Okay, I

1677
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 1: think we're gonna get more out of Mario Addison or

1678
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:25,679
Speaker 1: I think if we're gonna get more out of Quick

1679
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 1: Q and Quentin Jefferson, and I think we're gonna get

1680
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 1: more out of Vernon Butler and AJ and Ed are

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01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 1: gonna come. You know, maybe we're gonna get more out

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01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 1: of these guys who you know, they're still gonna be

1683
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: looking for somebody who can compliment Jerry Hughes on the

1684
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 1: other side, you know, and they haven't been able to

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01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 1: find it. They Trent or Trent Murphy didn't wasn't the

1686
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: guy his entire career. He was a solid player, no

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01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: question about it. And I don't think and you can

1688
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 1: say what you want about whatever. You know, all these guys,

1689
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 1: even the way they played this last year, their middle

1690
01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 1: of the road free agents, that's about what they got. Yeah,

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01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: that's about the production you got. So what do you

1692
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 1: have to do to get more? Get better production? So

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01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 1: you can take another step in twenty And here's the problem.

1694
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 1: If even if you sign JJ Watt and von Miller,

1695
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard for those guys. You're gonna spend

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01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 1: all the same money and more money. And what happens

1697
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 1: if those guys don't do it? You know what happens

1698
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 1: if one of them gets hurt or gets gets COVID

1699
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 1: or gets hurt or you know, pulls a peck muscle

1700
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:36,799
Speaker 1: or whatever. Now you've got nobody left. Not an easy decision,

1701
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 1: but it's above our pay grades. You can't you can

1702
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 1: only tell the future that everything would be better. That's right,

1703
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 1: break time for us when we come back, more of

1704
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 1: your comments on the tweet sheet as we discuss this

1705
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 1: defensive line situation because it doesn't have a lot of

1706
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 1: easy answers and there's a lot to debate there, So

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01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 1: we'll discuss it more when we return here on One

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01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by a lot of health It's Buffalo

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01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

1710
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, and we're just marveling at the negotiating power

1711
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 1: of the NFL with their television broadcast partners. As Peter

1712
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 1: King reported, you know over the weekend, it looks like

1713
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 1: the new network deals between the NFL and their broadcast

1714
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 1: partners could be done within a month. And they're talking

1715
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 1: ten year contracts due in large part to the fact

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01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 1: that the league reached a ten year labor accord with

1717
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 1: the NFLPA just last year, and so that stability enables

1718
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: them to negotiate long term contracts with their network partners.

1719
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 1: And they're saying the rights fees could mark an increase

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01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 1: of seventy to a hundred percent. Now, Steve, I understand

1721
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna have an extra regular season game of revenue

1722
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 1: across the league. So sixteen more games there in terms

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01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 1: of inventory, you'll lose preseason presumably one game, maybe two,

1724
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 1: and you have two other additional playoff games with the

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01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 1: seventh seed now in both the AFC and the NFC

1726
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 1: and only one team on the buy. Yeah, there's extra

1727
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:41,440
Speaker 1: inventory to sell, So I get the increase from that standpoint,

1728
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 1: but seventy to one hundred percent, it's an extra seven

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01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 1: percent or so of total inventory of regular season inventory,

1730
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 1: and it's an extra twelve or fifteen percent of postseason inventory.

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01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 1: So there's that at um it's a lot of money.

1732
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 1: And then ESPN apparently wants to beef up the Monday

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01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 1: Night package, and I think they want greater flexibility to

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01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 1: flex games in and out so that a game that

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01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 1: gets scheduled in May or late April and is a

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01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 1: dog in Week fourteen because the two teams have losing records,

1737
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: ESPN wants the wherewithal to be able to swap that

1738
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 1: out for more attractive game for their Monday Night package. Well,

1739
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:32,800
Speaker 1: that's all well and good, but the NFL is going

1740
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 1: to make you pay for it in a big way

1741
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 1: if you want that kind of flexibility. So but knowing

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01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 1: that it's coming potentially within a month is interesting. Looks

1743
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:45,839
Speaker 1: like Amazon is a lock to be their streaming partner,

1744
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 1: you know, for the Thursday Night package. Um, I don't know, man,

1745
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:56,640
Speaker 1: it's the number is going to hear the thing that

1746
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 1: you and I don't know, but I think we had

1747
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 1: a guest on on Monday. You know. Depending on when

1748
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,839
Speaker 1: these deals take up, after the old deals are expired,

1749
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 1: they don't start right away, so the current deals go

1750
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 1: to twenty two, twenty twenty two, so then the new

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01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 1: money won't kick in till twenty twenty three. ESPN is

1752
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 1: the only one whose deal is up this year, so

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01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:26,439
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, which means the next year's when the

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01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 1: cap gets a boost from these new TV deals. And

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01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 1: that's so that's a long way away. The guys are

1756
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 1: going to come into the league, have an entire career,

1757
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 1: and be out of the league before these deals are

1758
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 1: even on the horizon, you know, even coming in. So

1759
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 1: it's a ways off. But nevertheless, the league knows this too.

1760
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:47,800
Speaker 1: They've still got their deals in place from the last

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01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 1: deal they did, and they're still pretty good and there's

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01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 1: not gonna be any drop in television revenue. And what

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01:32:56,280 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 1: this pandemic did do for the NFL. It proved that

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01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:05,760
Speaker 1: they are virtually one hundred percent reliable that if you

1765
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 1: buy it, you're gonna get it. If you're gonna buy

1766
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty six games a regular season, a

1767
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 1: worldwide global pandemic isn't going to stop it. That's and

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01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 1: they just redid their CBA, so they've got ten years

1769
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 1: of labor peace are that is not going to disrupt broadcast.

1770
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 1: You got it? So that you can bet that these

1771
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 1: teams are going to get another two hundred and fifty

1772
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 1: million dollar check coming up in the spring from the

1773
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 1: rights agreements. That that goes along goes right straight down

1774
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 1: to their bottom line that they can divvy out to

1775
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:40,679
Speaker 1: the players, their staff and all that, and of course

1776
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 1: into their own pockets. So it continues to be the

1777
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:47,720
Speaker 1: eight hundred pound guerrilla in television, broadcasting, life sports. There's

1778
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 1: nothing like them. People watch it. And despite the fact

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01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 1: that a lot of things took a hit, this wasn't

1780
01:33:56,320 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 1: even adoreding on the paint job of the NFL. Yeah,

1781
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the ratings drop. Certainly they took it.

1782
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 1: They took and took a financial hit, no question about it. Yeah,

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01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 1: But in fairness, it wasn't a whole I mean it

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01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:10,879
Speaker 1: wasn't a full game. I mean that game was decided

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01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 1: by the early stages of the third quarter. So your

1786
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:15,719
Speaker 1: casual viewers, I'm just talking about. I'm just talking about

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01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 1: even across the league, in the whole big scheme of

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01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 1: things people aren't wating like the Daytona five hundred. Nobody

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01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 1: the NBA's down every day is a hockey's down. Every

1790
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 1: day's down. But the NFL maybe down a little bit,

1791
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 1: but man oh man, it drives interest and people still

1792
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: watch it, so they're there. These these broadcast rights are

1793
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 1: going through the roof because the league, this league, the

1794
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 1: NFL has proven unlike the NBA, the NHL, Major League Baseball,

1795
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:49,520
Speaker 1: nobody else can hold a candle to getting in every

1796
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:53,599
Speaker 1: single game of the regular season and every playoff game

1797
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 1: and the Super Bowl period. Got it. That's nobody can

1798
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 1: touch that. And that's what That's what you know. CBS, NBC, ABC, ESPN, Amazon,

1799
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 1: As we're literally bank that is exactly what they're paying

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01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:13,919
Speaker 1: for guaranteed programming break time for us. When we return,

1801
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 1: we'll get to more of your comments on the tweet

1802
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 1: sheet and maybe a little NFL True falls a little

1803
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 1: bit later on as we enter the final hour the

1804
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:23,840
Speaker 1: show Here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health,

1805
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello, the Littles Radio Network Sports

1806
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 1: Your sports update from One Bill's Drive. Buffalo Sabers dropped

1807
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 1: back to back games against the Islanders, the latest of

1808
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 1: three nothing shut out last night at the Key Bank Center.

1809
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo looks to get back on track when they head

1810
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 1: back to the nation's capitol. They'll play Washington Thursday night.

1811
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 1: Jesse Pegoula, daughter of Bill's owners Kim and Terry Pegoula,

1812
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 1: fell to fellow American Jennifer Brady in the quarterfinals of

1813
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 1: the Australian Open Wednesday night. She won the first set

1814
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 1: six four, but Brady then came back and won the

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01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 1: next two set six two, six one to clinch the

1816
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 1: match in advance to the semi finals. JJ Wattwatch continues

1817
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 1: the latest some news from a division fill of the Texans,

1818
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 1: the Titans GM. John Robinson said his club has had

1819
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 1: preliminary discussions with Watt and his camp. JJ Watt has

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01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 1: been a thorn in the side of the Titans for

1821
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 1: a decade, with eighteen sacks against that team, the most

1822
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 1: against any divisional opponent in Cleveland, there's also a need

1823
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:33,960
Speaker 1: for a veteran pass rusher. The Browns were one of

1824
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 1: the first teams to show interest in signing J. J.

1825
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 1: Watt after he was released, and it appears the interest

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01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:42,680
Speaker 1: is mutual. Cleveland dot Com is reporting that Watt is

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01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 1: quote seriously considering making his way to Cleveland to play

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01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 1: for the Browns. Among the reasons that the Browns of

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01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 1: cart Watt's eye is the cap space they have to

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01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:52,720
Speaker 1: make a deal happen, as well as a roster he

1831
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 1: believes can compete for a Super Bowl. Still waiting on

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01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,719
Speaker 1: the next quarterback move in the NFL, there are teams

1833
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 1: interest as the Broncos have their eye on Deshaun Watson

1834
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 1: if the Texans are willing to part ways with the

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01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 1: QB that According to an ABC seven report in Denver,

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01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 1: the Broncos continue to look for their first franchise QB

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01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 1: since Peyton Manning. There have been only two reported suitors

1838
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 1: to land Carson Wentz in a trade, and one has

1839
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 1: emerged from the other in efforts to land the Eagles QB.

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01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 1: SI dot COM's Albert Freer revealed the Chicago Bears are

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01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:25,759
Speaker 1: the front runner over the Colts to acquire Wentz. According

1842
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 1: to Ron Jaworski, though the Colts offered a package including

1843
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:31,640
Speaker 1: two second round draft picks for Wentz, the Eagles are

1844
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 1: seeking at least a first round or in return for

1845
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 1: the former first round pick. That is your sports update

1846
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:39,760
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you

1847
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 1: our number three of the program, and we want to

1848
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 1: get back to the tweet sheet to get more of

1849
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 1: your comments on the subject matter for today, which is

1850
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 1: a Twitter poll that asks what's the best way to

1851
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 1: help the Bills pass rush. We know that rushing and

1852
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 1: getting to the quarterback with their front four is a

1853
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 1: core philosophy of how this defense is to operate, and

1854
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 1: that was a monumental issue for this defense last year.

1855
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 1: The Bills know they have to make it better. Their

1856
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 1: fans know they have to make it better. What is

1857
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 1: the best way to make it better? Is the question

1858
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 1: on the table. The hard thing is, you gotta have

1859
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:19,560
Speaker 1: four guys who are overperforming their contracts, four of them,

1860
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 1: not just one guy who's having a great year, and

1861
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:26,280
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald isn't asn't enough well, and two years ago

1862
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 1: the Bills had that Shack Lawson was outperforming his rookie contract, right.

1863
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips was outperforming his one year contract, right. And

1864
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:38,760
Speaker 1: your problem is they outperformed it to a degree where

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01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 1: they became unaffordable on the free agent market. It's hard.

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01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 1: It's hard to find that many guys who can get

1867
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 1: it done at that level, right, And you got to

1868
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:48,639
Speaker 1: go back to the well again and try to find

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01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:50,680
Speaker 1: another guy on a one year deal, and another guy

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01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 1: and the bills and we've had this. Can we go

1871
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 1: round and around. It's hard to find him. Most teams can't.

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01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:58,599
Speaker 1: I mean, let's just put it that with most teams can't.

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01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:00,719
Speaker 1: Nobody can. And that might be part of the reason

1874
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 1: why they signed Mario Addison to a three year deal

1875
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 1: and Vernon Butler to a two year deal, and why

1876
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 1: they signed Quentin Jefferson to a three year deal. They

1877
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 1: went against the grain of what they had done with

1878
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 1: one year deal, one year deal and going back to

1879
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 1: the well, which can get exhausting if you think about it.

1880
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 1: If they'd rather find a fit that you can sit

1881
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 1: with for a few years, and that's right. And they

1882
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 1: drafted their first two draft picks, the first draft pick

1883
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 1: of the last two drafts have been defensive linemen A J.

1884
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:32,920
Speaker 1: Panessa and at Oliver. They have spared no expense and

1885
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 1: spared no effort in finding guys that can get it

1886
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 1: done up front, and I think they I don't know

1887
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:44,639
Speaker 1: that they would say they're disappointed because they got five

1888
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 1: games better this year, but their defensive line was not

1889
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:50,720
Speaker 1: what they wished it would be. I would say, I

1890
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:52,519
Speaker 1: would say the production isn't I don't think it lived

1891
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 1: up to expect So I think based on the investments

1892
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:56,720
Speaker 1: that were made, I think it's really going to tell

1893
01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 1: us a lot about what they try to do this

1894
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 1: offic season, even with the constraints they have financially in

1895
01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:05,559
Speaker 1: the cap and the free agency and where they sit

1896
01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 1: with it and all the investment they have and what

1897
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 1: they're tied to financially, I think their effort put forth

1898
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 1: on that spot and that position group is going to

1899
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:16,800
Speaker 1: tell us a lot about how they feel about the

1900
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 1: guys they have going forward. I don't think that the

1901
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 1: cupboard is completely bare. I don't think they're They're not

1902
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 1: a mess by any stretch of the imagination. But if

1903
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:29,639
Speaker 1: they want to make a difference defensively with just four

1904
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:33,800
Speaker 1: guys rushing, they got to get better right and when,

1905
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:38,799
Speaker 1: and they were a top five defense with a number

1906
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 1: two pass defense when they could get home rushing four

1907
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 1: because it allowed them to drop seven in coverage and

1908
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 1: they would shut down just about any passing game they

1909
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 1: came across two seasons ago. Yeah. The reason they can

1910
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:54,320
Speaker 1: do that the four guys. They can put six guys

1911
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:56,599
Speaker 1: up into the box or seven guys up into the box.

1912
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:58,880
Speaker 1: They pick which four they're gonna rush, which is the

1913
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 1: four they can get home the acast. They drop the

1914
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:04,360
Speaker 1: other three out and those guys drop immediately into the

1915
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 1: passing lanes that they through film study, have been able

1916
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 1: to say, I think this is the likely where he's

1917
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:11,759
Speaker 1: gonna go quick when he sees the pressure or whatever.

1918
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:14,800
Speaker 1: They'll drop into those passing lanes which the quarterback looks

1919
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 1: at and he has to hold the ball because somebody

1920
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:20,200
Speaker 1: dropped into the lane where he's gonna get have his

1921
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 1: quick answer. He has to hold it. Boom he goes down.

1922
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:30,559
Speaker 1: That's the idea. The Bills just haven't been there. They

1923
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:32,519
Speaker 1: didn't get there this year. They weren't there this year.

1924
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 1: They've got great defensive backs, the two safeties and Tradavious

1925
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:39,200
Speaker 1: White and along with Levi Wallace, whoever was out there

1926
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:42,320
Speaker 1: at the other corner. They do a great job of

1927
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 1: covering guys up. Certainly, everybody's spread too thin. When the

1928
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:48,439
Speaker 1: quarterback goes off script and runs around and makes all

1929
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 1: that stuff, then it's you know, it's all hands on deck.

1930
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:55,160
Speaker 1: But this team, like every and it's not just the Bill,

1931
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 1: every team would love to have four guys who can

1932
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 1: get home quick the quarterback. And you know, I think

1933
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 1: the Bills, like I said, it'll be a lot of

1934
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:08,479
Speaker 1: fun or a lot of very interesting to watch them.

1935
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 1: Whatever effort they put into their defensive line this offseason,

1936
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 1: that'll tell you how satisfied or unsatisfied they are with it.

1937
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 1: Got an open line for you at eight oh three

1938
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:19,679
Speaker 1: five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two, five

1939
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 1: fifty if you want to tell us what you think

1940
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 1: the best way is to help the Bills pass rush

1941
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 1: this offseason. But right now we're going to go back

1942
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 1: to the tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

1943
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:31,559
Speaker 1: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills, and

1944
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 1: Jack says, we have a strong roster that's ready to

1945
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:37,200
Speaker 1: compete for a title. But the pass rush is a

1946
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:40,439
Speaker 1: Tad underwhelming. I'd rather not wait for a rookie to develop.

1947
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:44,439
Speaker 1: We can still develop Epanessa and Love, etc. But get

1948
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 1: a wat a von Millery, Janniken got way to add

1949
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:51,080
Speaker 1: some true firepower opposite Hughes. That's what the Tampa Bay

1950
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 1: Bucks did. They went and signed Shack Barrett and free

1951
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:57,120
Speaker 1: agency to pair with Jason Pierre Paul. They made Vita

1952
01:42:57,200 --> 01:43:00,720
Speaker 1: vea number one draft pick, and then they had the

1953
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:02,640
Speaker 1: other guy next to him, his names escaping me now

1954
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 1: the other defensive tackle Sue and dominic Yeah, and Dominican

1955
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 1: Sue in free agency. I mean, man alive. That's a group. Yeah,

1956
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:13,559
Speaker 1: they got some guys and you know, and I'm not

1957
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 1: saying that although it had a hand in propelling them

1958
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:19,439
Speaker 1: to the quit to the playoffs, but it lends credence

1959
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:22,400
Speaker 1: to the to the idea that you've got to get

1960
01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 1: a guy who you can plug and play and get

1961
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 1: instant production. Yeah, you can draft a high a guy

1962
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 1: high in the draft. You can draft a pass rusher

1963
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 1: at the end of round one and maybe a hit

1964
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 1: on him and he plays for you right away. Or

1965
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 1: you may get an a jap and Essa who needs

1966
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 1: a little time on the job. And if you're going

1967
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:41,680
Speaker 1: for it, you need a guy that can help you

1968
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 1: right now where you know what you're getting off, you go, Yeah,

1969
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:48,559
Speaker 1: I wind him up, let him go. I'm still not

1970
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:52,559
Speaker 1: sold that the Bills are gonna make any moves at

1971
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 1: all on their defensive line. Um, they may stick with

1972
01:43:57,400 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 1: the guys they've got because of the finances and where

1973
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 1: are at with it. I think what they will do

1974
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:06,800
Speaker 1: is there's gonna be some places who where we may

1975
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 1: not even be aware that they're gonna go out and

1976
01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 1: they're gonna upgrade. They certainly got to do something about

1977
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 1: Milano and the spot that he's vacating or resigning him.

1978
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:18,280
Speaker 1: They're they're certainly gonna go out and look for a

1979
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 1: second corner opposite Tardavious White, because they had Josh Norman

1980
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:26,839
Speaker 1: on a one year deal, They've got e J. Gaines

1981
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:30,720
Speaker 1: coming back after an opt out year. They've got you know,

1982
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:35,680
Speaker 1: so they're gonna have to see what happens opposite Tardavious White.

1983
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 1: I don't think draft pick. They've got to find out

1984
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:41,360
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do with John Feliciana, with Darryl Williams,

1985
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:46,760
Speaker 1: with Ike Butker, Brian Witters, all of that's got to

1986
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:49,800
Speaker 1: iron itself out as well. But to say, and this

1987
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 1: is a problem, and we're gonna go through this whole offseason,

1988
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 1: Jack who tweeted that thing, you just read this roster

1989
01:44:56,120 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 1: isn't this roster anymore. There's twelve guys, sixteen guys that

1990
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:06,559
Speaker 1: are gone, and some of them are really contributors. So

1991
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 1: they got to start building it again from the ground up. Certainly,

1992
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:12,639
Speaker 1: they got some foundational pieces. You know, they got Josh,

1993
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 1: they got Dion Dawkins, they got Tredavious White, they got

1994
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds. Those guys they're coming no problems and you

1995
01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 1: know Mitch Morse, but they have got some work to

1996
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 1: do because they've got some guys that are gone. Their

1997
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 1: offensive line is decimated right now, not their defensive line,

1998
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 1: so that's where they got to start. Yeah, may have

1999
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 1: to stand pad on the d line. As as hard

2000
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:38,840
Speaker 1: as it might be to say from Bills and Mets fan,

2001
01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 1: swing for the fences. Whoever it is, let's just hope

2002
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 1: he's a heck of a lot better than Mario Williams.

2003
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:47,439
Speaker 1: Not even sure that J. J. Watt is who we need.

2004
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:50,759
Speaker 1: Question though, do we do a better job in scouting

2005
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:54,599
Speaker 1: young talent or talent on other teams. I think they

2006
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:57,639
Speaker 1: do pretty well in both theories, quite right. And it's

2007
01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:00,719
Speaker 1: by far and easier task to talk to scout talent

2008
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 1: our other teams. It's because they're playing the NFL game, right,

2009
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 1: They're playing NFL schemes against NFL talent, and are they

2010
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 1: winning matchups or losing matchups? That's that's the easy part.

2011
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:15,639
Speaker 1: You can you know the good NFL players because they're

2012
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 1: good at this level. You don't know who's gonna be

2013
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:22,280
Speaker 1: a great college player who comes to the NFL and

2014
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:26,599
Speaker 1: never gets it. Yeah, so I think everybody. For an

2015
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:30,280
Speaker 1: example from yesteryear, Josh Reid, the receiver they took in

2016
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 1: the second round out of LSU in two thousand and two,

2017
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 1: I want to say, guy average one hundred and forty

2018
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:42,879
Speaker 1: five yards receiving a game in college and couldn't couldn't

2019
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:45,719
Speaker 1: make it on this team as the number three receiver

2020
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 1: facing more one on ones than you could possibly imagine

2021
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:52,040
Speaker 1: with peerless price and Eric Moulds on the outside. So

2022
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:54,720
Speaker 1: it doesn't always translate. So yes, I agree with you

2023
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. It's easier to ascertain talent at the

2024
01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 1: NFL level in the person say, ready, that swing for

2025
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 1: the fences comes from a Mets fan. I don't know that.

2026
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 1: It says a whole lot, isn't. I don't know. I'll

2027
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 1: just commonly used the voice of reason. Tiffany says. The

2028
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 1: pass rushers that are available via free agency offer an

2029
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:18,680
Speaker 1: instant impact to any defense. The question is how much

2030
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:20,880
Speaker 1: is it going to cost you to sign him? Yeah,

2031
01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:23,760
Speaker 1: we certainly offer a potential free agent an excellent opportunity

2032
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:27,719
Speaker 1: to succeed and join a championship caliber team JJ Watt.

2033
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 1: So that is unquestionably something the Bills have to offer

2034
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 1: that not every team does. You know, they're right there.

2035
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 1: The right veteran free agent could put them over the hump,

2036
01:47:40,439 --> 01:47:42,439
Speaker 1: like in terms of getting to the super Bowl. That's

2037
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:46,160
Speaker 1: the hump I'm talking about. And you're right, is there guy?

2038
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:48,639
Speaker 1: Like we're looking at the list Shaquille Barrett, JJ Watch,

2039
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 1: Davian Clowney and Goaqway, Carl Lawson, Bud Dupree, Leonard Floyd,

2040
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:56,000
Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram, Hassan Reddick, Alden Smith, all these guys. Is

2041
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:58,680
Speaker 1: there one of those guys say they're all elite? Is

2042
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 1: there any one of those guys that is going to

2043
01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:03,400
Speaker 1: be out there that will be willing to sign a

2044
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:08,439
Speaker 1: deal that is Bills friendly this year. Short term? What

2045
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 1: give the guy a chance to get back into the

2046
01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:13,240
Speaker 1: free agency market next year when the cap goes back up. No,

2047
01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 1: if there's an opportunity to sign for real money somewhere else,

2048
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:21,320
Speaker 1: guaranteed money somewhere else, or now that's a long market

2049
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:23,880
Speaker 1: value money. That's a long list there. I mean, there's

2050
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:26,600
Speaker 1: correct list we're looking. Aren't that many teams with that

2051
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 1: kind of cap space? It's every one of those happy, right,

2052
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:32,720
Speaker 1: it's ten guys. So as a guy out there, one

2053
01:48:32,720 --> 01:48:34,160
Speaker 1: of those ten guys that we're looking at, and then

2054
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:36,320
Speaker 1: there's ten more out there somewhere else that may be

2055
01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:38,960
Speaker 1: just as good who we haven't found out about yet

2056
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 1: or don't know yet. Is there one of those guys

2057
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:44,200
Speaker 1: out there that the Bills can entice to sign a

2058
01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 1: team friendly deal for a one year or whatever, chance

2059
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:49,800
Speaker 1: to take a swing at the pie with Josh Allen

2060
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 1: and what they've got going on here offensively, and then

2061
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:54,799
Speaker 1: get back on the free agent market in twelve months.

2062
01:48:55,720 --> 01:49:01,559
Speaker 1: I'd say there probably is somewhere. There Probably is if

2063
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:03,560
Speaker 1: you got them, if you've got just enough money to

2064
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:06,880
Speaker 1: like to pay him what ten million bucks? Yeah, but

2065
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 1: then you've got sixty million bucks tied up in your

2066
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 1: defensive line. Well yeah, unless you Trussey takes the place

2067
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:19,559
Speaker 1: of one of the guys you've got, you add one

2068
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:24,080
Speaker 1: of these guys and subtract potentially two guys you have undergo. Yeah,

2069
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 1: or two guys could happen and then it's a wash.

2070
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:30,040
Speaker 1: Then you're right where you are with one less veteran player.

2071
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:33,559
Speaker 1: You probably have a better veteran that you added, but

2072
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:36,839
Speaker 1: you took two vets off in all likelihood from Dinah

2073
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:39,799
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet, any will do, but the best

2074
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 1: option is a if we can get a proven a

2075
01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 1: lead pass rusher, we don't have to educate a rookie

2076
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:47,760
Speaker 1: or hope someone already there takes a leap. Ideally we

2077
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 1: do all three, but short term, getting somebody already elite

2078
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:57,600
Speaker 1: makes sense. And I get that because once you have

2079
01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 1: Josh Allen on a long term, franchise altering contract, you're

2080
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:06,000
Speaker 1: not going to be in a position to do maybe

2081
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 1: what they could be contemplating right now with you know,

2082
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:11,599
Speaker 1: a veteran pass rusher, because you won't have that extra

2083
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:15,800
Speaker 1: twelve or fifteen million to spend on a guy like that,

2084
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 1: it just won't be there, right right, It's yeah, it's

2085
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:24,639
Speaker 1: not gonna get there. And they are gonna do all three.

2086
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:27,719
Speaker 1: They're they're gonna sign more players or draft more players

2087
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:31,000
Speaker 1: to fill out their roster. For the defensive line. They're

2088
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:33,880
Speaker 1: gonna have like thirteen or fifteen guys going into training

2089
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:37,719
Speaker 1: camp on the defensive line. Maybe not fifteen, but certainly

2090
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:40,880
Speaker 1: thirteen they go, they'll they'll have they'll have three more

2091
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 1: guys on the roster um and free agency's gonna say,

2092
01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:50,680
Speaker 1: you know who they are. But and then they're you know,

2093
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:52,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna try and and every guy's gonna try, and

2094
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:54,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna try and develop every player. They've got Ed

2095
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 1: Oliver to Aja Panessa and you know, Harrison Phillips, Justin Zimmer,

2096
01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:00,479
Speaker 1: all those guys, Darrell Johnson, they're all gonna trying to

2097
01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:02,840
Speaker 1: continue to develop him. Even the veterans we're talking about,

2098
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:05,320
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes. You know, you gotta have that growth mentality.

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01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 1: All those guys are gonna try to be developed. You know,

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01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:11,799
Speaker 1: So we'll see. They're gonna try all three, no question,

2101
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:17,560
Speaker 1: that's all that's their jobs. But you know, mark the

2102
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:19,920
Speaker 1: question is which one's gonna work, which one's gonna show.

2103
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:22,080
Speaker 1: Is somebody gonna show up from the draft class? Aj

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01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:24,720
Speaker 1: Epenessa Ed Oliver going to show up big time this

2105
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:27,439
Speaker 1: next coming year. I still, I still think it could

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01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:30,559
Speaker 1: happen for either one of them. But we gotta wait

2107
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:34,000
Speaker 1: and see. We gotta wait and see. Billy Billy on

2108
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:37,800
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet sees free agency as a means to

2109
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:41,040
Speaker 1: buy time, not a bunch of elite passed rushers to

2110
01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:44,000
Speaker 1: grab from the draft. That is Carlos Basham, wake Forest

2111
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:47,840
Speaker 1: cavan Thibadeau from Oregon. So I think we should aggressively

2112
01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:49,720
Speaker 1: pursue J. J. Watt and get him secured for a

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01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:51,600
Speaker 1: year or two and then maybe someone will emerge in

2114
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:54,479
Speaker 1: the college ranks by then. So he's obviously not all

2115
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 1: that impressed with the draft class. At edge rusher. I

2116
01:51:57,360 --> 01:51:59,680
Speaker 1: heard it's decent year for edge rusher, but yeah, you

2117
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:03,599
Speaker 1: said the receivers very good. Again, A handful of guys

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01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 1: on the edge rusher go in the first upwards of

2119
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:07,439
Speaker 1: a half a dozen that could go in the first round.

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01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:12,439
Speaker 1: So Bills could get one of those at thirty cheap,

2121
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 1: he'd be cheap, he would be And if there's guys

2122
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 1: out there that could go in the first draft, and

2123
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 1: there's receivers who you know, maybe three of them fall

2124
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:26,320
Speaker 1: out of the first round, then you can get your pick.

2125
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:31,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know there is in other news. You know,

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01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:33,880
Speaker 1: we already mentioned the Roethlisberger situation. I think we can

2127
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 1: describe his situation as murky at best, based on the

2128
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 1: comments at GM Kevin Colbert in Pittsburgh, who said, Ben

2129
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:43,280
Speaker 1: is on our roster now, but we have some things

2130
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:45,600
Speaker 1: that need to be addressed with that situation, meaning his

2131
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:49,640
Speaker 1: cap figure chiefly, and then all the other ways in

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01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 1: which they need to improve the roster with the free

2133
01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:55,280
Speaker 1: agents they have and the crippling cap situation that they're undergoing.

2134
01:52:55,760 --> 01:53:00,599
Speaker 1: And then you also have the Pittsburgh Penguins and the

2135
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:06,120
Speaker 1: rumors swirling that they could explore a trade for one

2136
01:53:06,240 --> 01:53:08,920
Speaker 1: Sidney Crosbie. Could you imagine on the same day, you

2137
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:11,320
Speaker 1: know you're you're a Pittsburgh sports fan, you pick up

2138
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:15,800
Speaker 1: the paper and it's murky situation for Rothlessburger and the

2139
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:19,320
Speaker 1: Steelers for twenty twenty one, and then oh yeah, by

2140
01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:22,000
Speaker 1: the way, we may change, we may trade sid the

2141
01:53:22,120 --> 01:53:25,240
Speaker 1: kid too. If you're a Pittsburgh sports fan waking up, like,

2142
01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:29,840
Speaker 1: what what the hell's going on out here? You're jumping

2143
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 1: off the tower of running. Can you imagine a day

2144
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 1: like that? Yeah? That would wow. Yeah, that would stink.

2145
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 1: I mean they'd be like, you know, that's like when

2146
01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:41,639
Speaker 1: the Bills let go Bruce andre All in the same

2147
01:53:41,720 --> 01:53:44,680
Speaker 1: day Black Monday, two thousand. Yeah, that would stink. I

2148
01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:48,080
Speaker 1: remember that one. That would stink um. And that happened

2149
01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:53,840
Speaker 1: because the team wasn't fiscally responsible. John Butler kind of

2150
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:58,240
Speaker 1: kept restructuring and pushing thing, kicking the can down the

2151
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,840
Speaker 1: road because he loved the player so much and wanted

2152
01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:03,839
Speaker 1: to keep him together as long as possible. But eventually

2153
01:54:03,880 --> 01:54:07,240
Speaker 1: you have to pay the piper, and the cap forced

2154
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 1: his hand and he had to make some really ugly

2155
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:15,160
Speaker 1: decisions with some all timers, And uh yeah, that would

2156
01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:18,600
Speaker 1: probably be the closest thing to that. If if Roethlisberger

2157
01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:20,599
Speaker 1: can't come back in twenty twenty one because they can't

2158
01:54:20,600 --> 01:54:24,800
Speaker 1: agree on a number, and if the new GM you

2159
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 1: know what, the Penguin says, We're going to turn the

2160
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:33,960
Speaker 1: page here, who way to make a first impression? That

2161
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:39,560
Speaker 1: was a heavy page? Oh wow, that would be something else.

2162
01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:43,520
Speaker 1: If that happened, that would be seismic in Pittsburgh, I

2163
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 1: think would be a safe way to describe it. So

2164
01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:51,040
Speaker 1: we'll have to see what comes of it. Yeah, just

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01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 1: three and a half hours down the road here and

2166
01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:57,960
Speaker 1: neighboring Pennsylvania. Said the kid in a Buffalo Sabers du

2167
01:54:58,120 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 1: Malcoin's old too. That turned Malkin's old too. I mean

2168
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 1: they got to turn the page there at some point. Yeah,

2169
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 1: I know. I mean, maybe you can justify in a

2170
01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 1: short season. You know, maybe in an abbreviated season, you

2171
01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 1: can get more out of those older players because they're

2172
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:15,880
Speaker 1: not grinding for eighty two games and then go into

2173
01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:19,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs they're grinding for fifty and then going You

2174
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 1: may be able to take one more shot at it

2175
01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:25,520
Speaker 1: with an older roster in a shortened season. If you're

2176
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 1: GM and you hear that, though, you gotta pick up

2177
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 1: the phone. Yeah, I've met your job. Find out all right,

2178
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:32,600
Speaker 1: what's it gonna take? What are we talk especially if

2179
01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 1: you think you're a veteran player away from well, yeah,

2180
01:55:35,400 --> 01:55:36,680
Speaker 1: and I don't winning the whole I don't know that

2181
01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:40,000
Speaker 1: the Sabers believe that I'm talking about my team, my

2182
01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:43,120
Speaker 1: deep the Sabers. I don't know. The Sabers believe they're

2183
01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:45,680
Speaker 1: one player away. But I'll tell you this. You gotta

2184
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:48,680
Speaker 1: find out, right, you gotta pick up the phone and say,

2185
01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 1: what's it gonna? Look at our roster? How many guys

2186
01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:55,280
Speaker 1: do you want? You can't have Jack, You're not taking

2187
01:55:56,160 --> 01:56:00,160
Speaker 1: Stall or or any of those. You're not taking You're

2188
01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 1: not taking a couple of guys. I guess what do

2189
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:07,000
Speaker 1: you want? Yeah? Now, the reports are indicating that a

2190
01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:10,560
Speaker 1: Crosby trade wouldn't be entertained until it became readily apparent

2191
01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:12,840
Speaker 1: that the Penguins would be missing the playoffs, and then

2192
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:17,120
Speaker 1: it would happen like a deadline deal. So I'll have

2193
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:20,360
Speaker 1: to see where it goes. But that means it's certainly

2194
01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:27,360
Speaker 1: drawing eyeballs. Certainly drawing eyeballs. Yeah, all right, we're gonna

2195
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:29,880
Speaker 1: take a break. I need a break. We're talking about Well,

2196
01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:32,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna shift gears anyway, because when we come back,

2197
01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:34,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing a little NFL true false for you, Steve.

2198
01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:39,600
Speaker 1: Let's do it yesterday. You did all right, Well we'll

2199
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:42,160
Speaker 1: see if we'll see if I can fare better here

2200
01:56:42,160 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 1: in true false. When we return on One Bill's Live,

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01:56:44,720 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio Brown

2202
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:03,560
Speaker 1: Steve Jasker Here the final half hour of the program

2203
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:07,760
Speaker 1: on a Wednesday, and we're going to move to the

2204
01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:11,880
Speaker 1: NFL True False portion of the program. Who is NFL

2205
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 1: True False? Brought to us by? Well, Steve, I'm glad

2206
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:17,360
Speaker 1: you asked, because it's brought to you by Yancey's fancy

2207
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:21,080
Speaker 1: New York's artisan Cheese. Perhaps you've heard of it, That's

2208
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:22,960
Speaker 1: who it was. I gotta tell you, Steve. The other

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01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:27,400
Speaker 1: day we were we're making dinner because that's what you

2210
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:30,560
Speaker 1: do these days, because it really isn't an option anymore.

2211
01:57:31,400 --> 01:57:35,640
Speaker 1: And uh, we were all out of a cheese that

2212
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:39,560
Speaker 1: we would normally use on this dish, like fresh bzzrella.

2213
01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:43,360
Speaker 1: My wife goes with the smoked Gouda that's in the

2214
01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:46,080
Speaker 1: drawer that we had for another dish we had made

2215
01:57:46,160 --> 01:57:48,920
Speaker 1: like a week or so ago, and I was like, oh,

2216
01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 1: it's a little risky. By damn it worked? Did it? Oh? Yeah? Now?

2217
01:57:54,840 --> 01:57:57,880
Speaker 1: It was just it wasn't complete transfer. It was just

2218
01:57:58,000 --> 01:57:59,800
Speaker 1: like an addition, like a little it was perfect. Well,

2219
01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:02,360
Speaker 1: it's like cheese is part of it was like a

2220
01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 1: little and pasto kind of salad. Wasn't like a total

2221
01:58:05,280 --> 01:58:07,040
Speaker 1: switch out with smoked good. It was just a little

2222
01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:09,040
Speaker 1: like to finish it off. No, no, we didn't have

2223
01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:11,200
Speaker 1: any mots. You didn't have any in the house. Oh

2224
01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:14,720
Speaker 1: so you went completely with smoke, so we went all in.

2225
01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 1: It worked? Did it? It worked? I was shocked, absolutely shocked.

2226
01:58:19,960 --> 01:58:22,480
Speaker 1: But I don't know my west Celian and your family

2227
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:25,760
Speaker 1: didn't approved of Well yeah, well, like I've told you,

2228
01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:27,960
Speaker 1: she's like a whip it up person, so like she'll

2229
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:29,640
Speaker 1: just throw in a little of this, a little of that,

2230
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:31,920
Speaker 1: and it works. And it's like, I can't do it.

2231
01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm not, I can't do that. I'm with you. I

2232
01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:38,000
Speaker 1: gotta good. It's good, smoked Gouda. It was. It was

2233
01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:41,960
Speaker 1: very gooda as the joke. The pun jokes were flying

2234
01:58:41,960 --> 01:58:46,120
Speaker 1: around the kitchen, unfortunately, way too much. But NFL true

2235
01:58:46,160 --> 01:58:50,040
Speaker 1: fall Steve item number one on the docket, go man,

2236
01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:56,520
Speaker 1: Bill should franchise tag linebacker Matt Milano A right, true

2237
01:58:57,440 --> 01:59:00,480
Speaker 1: or fall. I'm sure some people listening to us they're

2238
01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:08,720
Speaker 1: gonna gonna construe my next statement as sacrilege. But I

2239
01:59:08,840 --> 01:59:10,800
Speaker 1: think the guy's too easy to replace to give him

2240
01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:14,920
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars. So you say false, I say false. Yeah,

2241
01:59:14,920 --> 01:59:19,720
Speaker 1: I would concur it's easier to replace a linebacker then say,

2242
01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:23,720
Speaker 1: all right, tackle who's also a free agent on this roster. U.

2243
01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:27,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, and I know I can speak

2244
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:29,720
Speaker 1: for Steve when I say we love Matt Milano. He's

2245
01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:34,000
Speaker 1: a great, great player, great player, impact player, playmaking type player.

2246
01:59:34,760 --> 01:59:39,640
Speaker 1: But just I just think franchising him is only delaying

2247
01:59:39,640 --> 01:59:44,080
Speaker 1: the inevitable. Yes, and then you're overpaying there, which is

2248
01:59:44,080 --> 01:59:46,240
Speaker 1: going to prevent you from paying somewhere else to help

2249
01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:48,200
Speaker 1: some of the other holes on your roster. I think

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01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:50,600
Speaker 1: if this, if there are enough athletic linebackers at the

2251
01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 1: college level, that's what they are these days, six three, two,

2252
01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:57,200
Speaker 1: twenty five guys that can run those come all, there

2253
01:59:57,240 --> 01:59:59,080
Speaker 1: will be a diamond does There'll be a dozen of

2254
01:59:59,160 --> 02:00:02,800
Speaker 1: them in the first three ounce right? Yeah? I mean

2255
02:00:02,840 --> 02:00:07,520
Speaker 1: I hate available in the first time. Yeah. So I

2256
02:00:07,600 --> 02:00:13,440
Speaker 1: love Matt Milano, but you know, I like Twinkies too,

2257
02:00:13,480 --> 02:00:15,280
Speaker 1: But I just know there's another one in the box.

2258
02:00:15,320 --> 02:00:17,120
Speaker 1: You know. I'm just gonna I'm gonna, I'm just gonna

2259
02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:25,880
Speaker 1: unwrap the Wow you Win baked treats. Analogy, there's another

2260
02:00:25,960 --> 02:00:29,360
Speaker 1: donut in the box all over it. Right, Oh my gosh,

2261
02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:32,120
Speaker 1: that was very good. That's the way I feel about it. Okay,

2262
02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 1: fair enough, And I'm in that same camp. So yeah,

2263
02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:40,280
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate, but it's it's the cost of doing business

2264
02:00:40,280 --> 02:00:42,480
Speaker 1: in this league, unfortunately more than I think so too.

2265
02:00:42,760 --> 02:00:45,360
Speaker 1: I think it's I think good for Matt Milano. He's

2266
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:47,680
Speaker 1: earned the right to see what he's wanting and and

2267
02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:49,760
Speaker 1: for people just really don't want to see him in

2268
02:00:49,760 --> 02:00:52,120
Speaker 1: the division. No, but yeah, right I don't either. But

2269
02:00:52,240 --> 02:00:54,680
Speaker 1: hope he for Matt's sake, all Bills fan, you hope

2270
02:00:54,680 --> 02:00:56,960
Speaker 1: he gets what he you know, every every diver can get.

2271
02:00:57,120 --> 02:00:59,720
Speaker 1: He's good for him. He's, as Brandon being is said,

2272
02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:03,320
Speaker 1: he's earned the right to see what he's worth. Yeah,

2273
02:01:03,360 --> 02:01:06,880
Speaker 1: on the open market. He's put the time in, he's produced.

2274
02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:09,800
Speaker 1: The thing that I just can't get away from is

2275
02:01:10,160 --> 02:01:12,880
Speaker 1: the possibility of seeing him somewhere else in this division.

2276
02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:17,360
Speaker 1: That's just gonna went to Boston College. There's a connection

2277
02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:20,680
Speaker 1: up there, and he's a Florida native, so there's a

2278
02:01:20,680 --> 02:01:23,960
Speaker 1: connection down there. So that's just gonna eat away at

2279
02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:29,839
Speaker 1: me if that happens. NFL true false. Number two, Jimmy

2280
02:01:29,920 --> 02:01:35,080
Speaker 1: Garoppolo should be the Patriots quarterback in twenty twenty one.

2281
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:40,440
Speaker 1: I think I would say, well, I'll say no, I'll

2282
02:01:40,440 --> 02:01:45,440
Speaker 1: say false, but I'll say this, he may be. I

2283
02:01:45,480 --> 02:01:47,720
Speaker 1: think the Patriots are gonna do this exactly like they

2284
02:01:47,720 --> 02:01:52,040
Speaker 1: did twelve months ago. Slow play, very slow play. They'll

2285
02:01:52,040 --> 02:01:54,280
Speaker 1: wait till after the draft. They'll wait till training camps

2286
02:01:54,280 --> 02:01:56,720
Speaker 1: almost there laid in the process, when they're gonna start

2287
02:01:56,720 --> 02:01:58,960
Speaker 1: getting things rolling for good and they're gonna see who's

2288
02:01:58,960 --> 02:02:01,040
Speaker 1: out there and they're gonna take their shot and they're

2289
02:02:01,040 --> 02:02:03,200
Speaker 1: gonna go. They may make a trade at that point

2290
02:02:03,680 --> 02:02:07,680
Speaker 1: or whatever. I think they will swing on a guy

2291
02:02:07,720 --> 02:02:11,360
Speaker 1: like Garoppolo, a guy like you know, even Deshaun Watson.

2292
02:02:11,400 --> 02:02:13,480
Speaker 1: Deal's take a swing at Darnald. I think they got

2293
02:02:13,600 --> 02:02:16,960
Speaker 1: note well, except that it's the Jets. The Jets trade

2294
02:02:17,280 --> 02:02:21,280
Speaker 1: him in the division. Yes, come on, the Jets, come on.

2295
02:02:21,640 --> 02:02:26,040
Speaker 1: It's the jetsiest thing to do to your most hated rival.

2296
02:02:27,320 --> 02:02:30,040
Speaker 1: Depends on what the Jets thinking there that stole your head, coach,

2297
02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:34,400
Speaker 1: think of right, think about It might be wow, it

2298
02:02:34,520 --> 02:02:37,720
Speaker 1: might be the fact that they may have that little

2299
02:02:38,240 --> 02:02:44,320
Speaker 1: regard for Darnald. I don't think Sala, Robert Sala would

2300
02:02:44,560 --> 02:02:47,600
Speaker 1: never let that happen. I gotta think, even right, I

2301
02:02:47,760 --> 02:02:50,080
Speaker 1: want to believe that, all right. So anyway, I think

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Speaker 1: that's what the Patriots are gonna do. The Patriots are

2303
02:02:52,160 --> 02:02:55,440
Speaker 1: gonna wait till the final hour. We may see Ryan

2304
02:02:55,440 --> 02:03:01,920
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick up there. You know, I think that is more likely.

2305
02:03:02,040 --> 02:03:04,360
Speaker 1: I think so too. Yeah, but I'm telling you that

2306
02:03:04,480 --> 02:03:07,040
Speaker 1: the Patriots will slow play it. They'll look at the market.

2307
02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:09,240
Speaker 1: They know all these guys are out there. There's gonna

2308
02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:11,320
Speaker 1: be one that's gonna be worth having on your team.

2309
02:03:11,520 --> 02:03:13,280
Speaker 1: They'll get him for cheap, and they'll and they'll roll

2310
02:03:13,360 --> 02:03:16,040
Speaker 1: them out there just like this is. I think your

2311
02:03:16,040 --> 02:03:22,080
Speaker 1: two premises premises is that right, uh, should be melded together.

2312
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:25,880
Speaker 1: I think they signed somebody like Fitzpatrick early in the

2313
02:03:25,960 --> 02:03:30,080
Speaker 1: process to at least cover their bases, and then I

2314
02:03:30,080 --> 02:03:33,360
Speaker 1: think they slow play, as you say, to see if

2315
02:03:33,360 --> 02:03:40,360
Speaker 1: a better situation comes afoot, namely San Francisco in mid

2316
02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:44,240
Speaker 1: August trades for Deshaun Watson. And now they're looking to

2317
02:03:44,320 --> 02:03:47,839
Speaker 1: unload Garoppolo, which they can do at an affordable price.

2318
02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:51,320
Speaker 1: And now they say you can hand them Hey, we're interested.

2319
02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:53,880
Speaker 1: We'll give you a third a third, or we'll give

2320
02:03:53,920 --> 02:03:58,000
Speaker 1: you we know you got of Jarrett Stidham, Yeah, and

2321
02:03:59,320 --> 02:04:04,000
Speaker 1: stidhim in a three for Garoppolo or Brian Horrier. That's

2322
02:04:04,000 --> 02:04:06,680
Speaker 1: what That's what they were I think would look to do.

2323
02:04:07,160 --> 02:04:10,120
Speaker 1: So Jimmy Garoppolo should be the pit. This is not

2324
02:04:10,240 --> 02:04:13,520
Speaker 1: really how I'm kind of putting this puzzle together for

2325
02:04:13,520 --> 02:04:17,840
Speaker 1: their offseason plans. I will say falls, I don't think

2326
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:20,960
Speaker 1: he should be, but that doesn't mean he won't be.

2327
02:04:21,560 --> 02:04:24,960
Speaker 1: That's right. I think the it's easy to unload him

2328
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:27,240
Speaker 1: in the Niners recently said, oh no, we're going with

2329
02:04:27,320 --> 02:04:28,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy G. I mean, what the hell else are they

2330
02:04:28,920 --> 02:04:31,800
Speaker 1: gonna say? How go? You have a better answer? How

2331
02:04:31,800 --> 02:04:33,720
Speaker 1: to go? For so far South? With Jimmy G and

2332
02:04:33,760 --> 02:04:37,200
Speaker 1: San Francisco like Kyle Shanahan that doesn't even trust him

2333
02:04:37,240 --> 02:04:39,480
Speaker 1: to throw it more than twelve times again, I mean,

2334
02:04:39,600 --> 02:04:41,720
Speaker 1: how did he go so far south? With those girls?

2335
02:04:41,720 --> 02:04:45,320
Speaker 1: He hasn't been great. I mean, and that's with some

2336
02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:47,920
Speaker 1: elite weapons. I mean, he's gonna have some people to

2337
02:04:47,960 --> 02:04:51,920
Speaker 1: throw to when the problem is they can't all stay healthy.

2338
02:04:52,000 --> 02:04:54,920
Speaker 1: Kittle got hurt this year three of his four running

2339
02:04:54,920 --> 02:04:58,240
Speaker 1: backs got hurt this year, and Deebo Samuel couldn't stay healthy,

2340
02:04:58,240 --> 02:05:00,800
Speaker 1: and even I Yuk missed time the rookie that they drafted.

2341
02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:04,600
Speaker 1: They gotta get healthy. That's systemic, though, They gotta that's

2342
02:05:04,640 --> 02:05:06,600
Speaker 1: there that might be on it. That might be Kyle

2343
02:05:06,600 --> 02:05:09,040
Speaker 1: Shanahan's blind spot, right therapy being able a good beer

2344
02:05:09,120 --> 02:05:13,600
Speaker 1: program in Chargers have also had problems with injuries. Well yeah, yeah,

2345
02:05:13,640 --> 02:05:16,000
Speaker 1: so that's that's we will say false to that's right,

2346
02:05:16,240 --> 02:05:25,120
Speaker 1: so NFL true false. Numerous Trace Raiders should sign Derek

2347
02:05:25,200 --> 02:05:31,400
Speaker 1: Carr to a contract extension. True or false. There has

2348
02:05:31,440 --> 02:05:34,880
Speaker 1: already been talked that they could be interested into Shaun Watson,

2349
02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:38,520
Speaker 1: and understandably so, he would be an upgrade from Derek Carr.

2350
02:05:38,760 --> 02:05:43,320
Speaker 1: But Derek Carr isn't a shlub. I like Derek Carr.

2351
02:05:43,360 --> 02:05:46,120
Speaker 1: He's a top twelve quarterback, top ten mate. I think

2352
02:05:46,160 --> 02:05:49,720
Speaker 1: I think Derek Carr is. I do not. Here's the problem,

2353
02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:52,120
Speaker 1: and this is a John Gruden problem. I think he

2354
02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:54,600
Speaker 1: did the same thing when he got down to Tampa

2355
02:05:54,640 --> 02:05:57,800
Speaker 1: Bay won the Super Bowl and then was He is

2356
02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:02,080
Speaker 1: the coach that says if a guy's bigger, faster, stronger.

2357
02:06:02,440 --> 02:06:04,360
Speaker 1: That's the guy one on my team. Whether this guy

2358
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:07,240
Speaker 1: had or whether if there's a guy out Derek Carr's

2359
02:06:07,280 --> 02:06:10,360
Speaker 1: perfect example, guy went, He's gone twelve and four in

2360
02:06:10,400 --> 02:06:13,960
Speaker 1: the league. He's a solid quarterback, good arm strength, understanding

2361
02:06:13,960 --> 02:06:17,440
Speaker 1: of the offense, all that stuff. If there's a faster, stronger,

2362
02:06:17,520 --> 02:06:19,560
Speaker 1: better guy out there, a guy who's better off the

2363
02:06:19,560 --> 02:06:21,240
Speaker 1: cover warder, that's the guy we want. We gotta go

2364
02:06:21,240 --> 02:06:25,880
Speaker 1: get him. Doesn't matter if he if he fits our culture, whatever, whatever,

2365
02:06:25,880 --> 02:06:28,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna go get the guy. And then if there's

2366
02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:30,320
Speaker 1: a you know, bigger, faster, stronger this guy, if a bigger, faster,

2367
02:06:30,320 --> 02:06:32,960
Speaker 1: stronger that way, it doesn't matter. He will wash through

2368
02:06:33,000 --> 02:06:36,040
Speaker 1: his entire roster and get those guys in there. So

2369
02:06:36,160 --> 02:06:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm that is this is totally a John Gruden thing,

2370
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:40,360
Speaker 1: and I think it's one of the that's what brought

2371
02:06:40,480 --> 02:06:44,960
Speaker 1: him down in Tampa Bay is constantly changing out key

2372
02:06:45,000 --> 02:06:48,640
Speaker 1: pieces of his team for a guy that was seemed

2373
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:52,520
Speaker 1: like fresh and new and causing problems on his cap. Yes,

2374
02:06:52,720 --> 02:06:54,840
Speaker 1: he's a shiny new toy guy. He's a shiny new

2375
02:06:54,880 --> 02:06:56,920
Speaker 1: toy guy, particularly on the offensive side of the bowl.

2376
02:06:57,080 --> 02:07:00,720
Speaker 1: So just so people have some clarity on this. Derek

2377
02:07:00,760 --> 02:07:05,800
Speaker 1: Carr's contract runs through the twenty twenty two season. He

2378
02:07:05,960 --> 02:07:08,800
Speaker 1: is a twenty two point one million dollar cap hit

2379
02:07:08,880 --> 02:07:13,000
Speaker 1: this year, nineteen point eight million dollar cap hit next year,

2380
02:07:13,320 --> 02:07:17,120
Speaker 1: which for him, I think it's pretty affordable. That's a

2381
02:07:17,320 --> 02:07:20,640
Speaker 1: that's a bargain, I mean think, yeah, I think it's

2382
02:07:20,680 --> 02:07:23,960
Speaker 1: a total bargain. If you can't build a team around

2383
02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:31,600
Speaker 1: that guy with that that number, Deshaun Watson ain't helping you. Well, no,

2384
02:07:31,840 --> 02:07:34,160
Speaker 1: you're You'll be fourth in passing and you'll be giving

2385
02:07:34,240 --> 02:07:35,920
Speaker 1: up thirty five points a game. They got to fix

2386
02:07:35,960 --> 02:07:38,040
Speaker 1: their defense. Yeah, They've got a lot of other problems

2387
02:07:38,080 --> 02:07:40,560
Speaker 1: besides Derek Carr, and they need a do they need

2388
02:07:40,600 --> 02:07:46,680
Speaker 1: a dominant pass rusher, They need two corners and probably

2389
02:07:46,880 --> 02:07:50,120
Speaker 1: two or three linebackers. They gotta do some fixing on

2390
02:07:50,160 --> 02:07:54,720
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. And I mean there's

2391
02:07:54,760 --> 02:07:57,400
Speaker 1: things they need to add on offense. But their rookie

2392
02:07:57,400 --> 02:08:00,360
Speaker 1: receivers were largely underwhelming. They need to have have a

2393
02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:03,720
Speaker 1: better second season. I'm talking Rugs and Brian Watson, their

2394
02:08:03,760 --> 02:08:06,320
Speaker 1: fourth round draft choice. Those guys have to step forward

2395
02:08:06,720 --> 02:08:09,760
Speaker 1: and be a bigger part of the passing game. Um

2396
02:08:10,360 --> 02:08:13,680
Speaker 1: Agilore had a decent season, but he's got to still

2397
02:08:13,680 --> 02:08:16,160
Speaker 1: be more consistent. He still had some key drops at

2398
02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:18,640
Speaker 1: some key times. But I don't know if he's even

2399
02:08:18,640 --> 02:08:21,880
Speaker 1: gonna be back because he basically bad mouth the whole team,

2400
02:08:22,080 --> 02:08:24,560
Speaker 1: if you remember at the end of the year, basically

2401
02:08:24,680 --> 02:08:28,880
Speaker 1: saying we suck. Yeah, so there's that, But I mean

2402
02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah, no they I mean, yeah, I would.

2403
02:08:31,160 --> 02:08:34,240
Speaker 1: I would sign him to a CONTRACTU and extend him, uh,

2404
02:08:34,840 --> 02:08:37,360
Speaker 1: pay him maybe a year or two twenty years. At

2405
02:08:37,360 --> 02:08:39,720
Speaker 1: the end of this one, you got twenty million this year,

2406
02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:42,760
Speaker 1: nineteen next year salary b pop pop him up to

2407
02:08:42,800 --> 02:08:47,400
Speaker 1: twenty five million, twenty five after this one's run out. Yeah,

2408
02:08:47,480 --> 02:08:52,840
Speaker 1: and then guaranteed two of the years you know, Okay, Yeah,

2409
02:08:52,840 --> 02:08:55,120
Speaker 1: I mean he signed him to another two sixteen games

2410
02:08:55,200 --> 02:09:00,240
Speaker 1: last year. Sixty seven percent completion percentage through forty one yards,

2411
02:09:00,280 --> 02:09:03,920
Speaker 1: twenty seven touchdowns, nine picks. Why would you You can

2412
02:09:03,960 --> 02:09:06,520
Speaker 1: win with that? Right if you have a running game,

2413
02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:08,280
Speaker 1: which they do with Josh Jacobs in one of the

2414
02:09:08,320 --> 02:09:10,840
Speaker 1: heaviest offensive lines in football, don't give you just need

2415
02:09:10,840 --> 02:09:13,960
Speaker 1: more consistency from the guys he's throwing to. You have

2416
02:09:14,000 --> 02:09:17,160
Speaker 1: an all world tight ended waller. You just need those

2417
02:09:17,200 --> 02:09:20,440
Speaker 1: young receivers to get better. They got to fix the defense.

2418
02:09:20,520 --> 02:09:27,120
Speaker 1: Derek Carr is a bargain at that number. Build the team, Yeah,

2419
02:09:27,600 --> 02:09:31,560
Speaker 1: and you know, and win games. I get it too.

2420
02:09:31,640 --> 02:09:34,320
Speaker 1: They're in they're in the Chiefs Division, and you know,

2421
02:09:35,480 --> 02:09:37,720
Speaker 1: going to beat that guy with this guy exactly, I

2422
02:09:37,800 --> 02:09:40,600
Speaker 1: don't think I think that's I think that's what you

2423
02:09:40,640 --> 02:09:43,040
Speaker 1: gotta do. But you did beat him once. You're the

2424
02:09:43,080 --> 02:09:45,640
Speaker 1: only team that beat him in the regular season. And

2425
02:09:45,760 --> 02:09:48,440
Speaker 1: how did you beat him? You have to score forty points,

2426
02:09:49,080 --> 02:09:51,120
Speaker 1: make the defense better, and maybe you only have to

2427
02:09:51,120 --> 02:09:55,280
Speaker 1: score thirty, right, I'm with you at that. For the

2428
02:09:55,400 --> 02:09:58,480
Speaker 1: argument of this, I am going to say, and did

2429
02:09:58,480 --> 02:10:00,920
Speaker 1: they already give me an answer they saying true. I

2430
02:10:00,920 --> 02:10:03,920
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna flip my answer and actually say false.

2431
02:10:04,240 --> 02:10:07,400
Speaker 1: Why because well this is why. Okay, you still have

2432
02:10:07,480 --> 02:10:11,040
Speaker 1: him under contract for another two years, so I would

2433
02:10:11,040 --> 02:10:13,000
Speaker 1: agree you could send him sign him to a contract,

2434
02:10:13,000 --> 02:10:15,920
Speaker 1: he said. I'm just saying not this year. So I

2435
02:10:15,960 --> 02:10:18,560
Speaker 1: will say false. So you can devote that money to

2436
02:10:18,640 --> 02:10:21,960
Speaker 1: your defense, make your defense better. So I'm saying false

2437
02:10:22,040 --> 02:10:25,040
Speaker 1: for a different reason than you're saying true. Well, what

2438
02:10:25,080 --> 02:10:27,360
Speaker 1: are you gonna do when he try and sign. He's

2439
02:10:27,400 --> 02:10:29,160
Speaker 1: got one year left. He has a really goodnice year.

2440
02:10:29,200 --> 02:10:33,720
Speaker 1: He hasn't throws for thirty pounds eight picks. Next year

2441
02:10:34,120 --> 02:10:37,280
Speaker 1: throws forty forty four hundred yards and he comes back

2442
02:10:37,320 --> 02:10:38,960
Speaker 1: and say, we're gonna talk to you about an extension

2443
02:10:39,040 --> 02:10:43,480
Speaker 1: to say, I'll wait, then you pay him? What do

2444
02:10:43,520 --> 02:10:46,400
Speaker 1: you think he's what he thinks he's worth. But I'm

2445
02:10:46,440 --> 02:10:49,960
Speaker 1: only I'm not well. Then I'm looking elsewhere. You know

2446
02:10:51,640 --> 02:10:53,520
Speaker 1: Sean Watson's not gonna be there next year. Do you

2447
02:10:53,520 --> 02:10:56,000
Speaker 1: think waiting one more year is gonna really sink your

2448
02:10:56,040 --> 02:10:58,480
Speaker 1: ship with that guy? I don't know, I don't know,

2449
02:10:58,600 --> 02:11:01,760
Speaker 1: Maybe not, maybe not. I'm gonna fix the defense to

2450
02:11:01,840 --> 02:11:03,600
Speaker 1: try to make the team better for him so we

2451
02:11:03,680 --> 02:11:06,160
Speaker 1: can win. He's got to respect that, right, I would

2452
02:11:06,160 --> 02:11:09,400
Speaker 1: think so, especially in a restrictive cap here. I'll wait.

2453
02:11:09,480 --> 02:11:11,080
Speaker 1: You might want to sit tight in this cap here,

2454
02:11:11,200 --> 02:11:14,400
Speaker 1: no question, But I'm telling you, if I'm a QB,

2455
02:11:15,280 --> 02:11:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make twenty. And he's already made you know, seven,

2456
02:11:20,080 --> 02:11:23,360
Speaker 1: more than enough? Right? So is there a quarterback that

2457
02:11:23,440 --> 02:11:26,120
Speaker 1: hasn't He might just hit take one. Marcus Mariota made

2458
02:11:26,120 --> 02:11:29,440
Speaker 1: ten million last year, for God's sake, says the backup. Yeah,

2459
02:11:30,240 --> 02:11:33,080
Speaker 1: all right, that's NFL true false break time for us,

2460
02:11:33,360 --> 02:11:36,360
Speaker 1: Steve and I will wrap things up on this Wednesday

2461
02:11:36,480 --> 02:11:39,240
Speaker 1: edition when we return here on One Bill's Live presented

2462
02:11:39,240 --> 02:11:53,120
Speaker 1: by a lot of Health's Buffalo Bill's Radio Time for

2463
02:11:53,440 --> 02:11:58,160
Speaker 1: what if we learned today's show brought to you by Skyworks,

2464
02:11:58,160 --> 02:12:03,920
Speaker 1: the official equipment rent will come of the Buffalo Dudes. Steve,

2465
02:12:04,000 --> 02:12:05,839
Speaker 1: I don't know that we learned a whole lot today.

2466
02:12:07,720 --> 02:12:10,400
Speaker 1: Maybe we never really learned a whole lot of truthfully,

2467
02:12:10,920 --> 02:12:15,320
Speaker 1: were overthinking, but we do. We do have a comment

2468
02:12:15,800 --> 02:12:19,480
Speaker 1: from one Shield Capatia on the show, who gave us

2469
02:12:19,480 --> 02:12:22,480
Speaker 1: some insight on what a team can expect from Carson

2470
02:12:22,560 --> 02:12:27,200
Speaker 1: Wentz to get him by trade. I think if you're

2471
02:12:27,240 --> 02:12:29,880
Speaker 1: a team trading for Carson Wentz, you look at it

2472
02:12:29,880 --> 02:12:32,760
Speaker 1: and you can say a little bit that twenty twenty

2473
02:12:33,120 --> 02:12:36,120
Speaker 1: was an outlier. You know, he was, by every statistical measure,

2474
02:12:36,400 --> 02:12:39,720
Speaker 1: one of the worst starting quarterbacks in the NFL last season,

2475
02:12:39,760 --> 02:12:42,200
Speaker 1: if not the worst starting quarterback. Now, if you go

2476
02:12:42,240 --> 02:12:45,880
Speaker 1: back to twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen, he certainly was

2477
02:12:45,920 --> 02:12:49,080
Speaker 1: not like a top five MVP guy, but he was,

2478
02:12:49,360 --> 02:12:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, he was a little bit above average. I

2479
02:12:51,120 --> 02:12:54,080
Speaker 1: think most most statistical measures would have him around the

2480
02:12:54,120 --> 02:12:57,240
Speaker 1: tenth or eleventh best quarterback for those seasons. So I

2481
02:12:57,280 --> 02:12:58,960
Speaker 1: think if you're a team like the colt or the

2482
02:12:59,000 --> 02:13:01,560
Speaker 1: Bears or whoever's interested, you say, you know what, we

2483
02:13:01,640 --> 02:13:04,880
Speaker 1: can get that version of Carson Wentz, that twenty eighteen,

2484
02:13:05,200 --> 02:13:08,000
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen version. Yet twenty twenty he didn't go his way,

2485
02:13:08,040 --> 02:13:11,520
Speaker 1: but he had thirteen different offensive line combinations. The coaching

2486
02:13:11,600 --> 02:13:15,520
Speaker 1: wasn't great, the supporting cast wasn't great. Those are all facts.

2487
02:13:15,560 --> 02:13:17,360
Speaker 1: But man, if you're a if you're a fan of

2488
02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:19,360
Speaker 1: the Colts or the Bears and you hear a shield

2489
02:13:19,360 --> 02:13:22,320
Speaker 1: on our show today, that was not a ringing endorsement. No,

2490
02:13:22,440 --> 02:13:27,040
Speaker 1: there's only there's only one. There's only really one team

2491
02:13:27,080 --> 02:13:29,480
Speaker 1: I could see Carson Wentz going to that has any

2492
02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:31,720
Speaker 1: credibility about what he's gonna do. And that's with Frank Reich.

2493
02:13:31,760 --> 02:13:34,480
Speaker 1: Indian was his coordinator, because he was the coordinator when

2494
02:13:34,520 --> 02:13:37,200
Speaker 1: Wentz was putting up the MVP season when they went

2495
02:13:37,240 --> 02:13:39,000
Speaker 1: to the went to and won the Super Bowl against

2496
02:13:39,040 --> 02:13:41,480
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and that, to me is the best landing

2497
02:13:41,520 --> 02:13:43,320
Speaker 1: spot for him. I don't even think it's close. No,

2498
02:13:43,440 --> 02:13:45,520
Speaker 1: I don't either. I think it's a perfect spot. They've

2499
02:13:45,560 --> 02:13:47,320
Speaker 1: got a fully formed team. We watched him here in

2500
02:13:47,320 --> 02:13:51,160
Speaker 1: the playoffs in January play the Bills here in Orchard,

2501
02:13:51,280 --> 02:13:53,360
Speaker 1: not just saying for his personal game, and they were,

2502
02:13:53,520 --> 02:13:56,040
Speaker 1: and they were, they were really that's a really good

2503
02:13:56,040 --> 02:13:59,520
Speaker 1: football too, execution. I don't know what he'd do. I

2504
02:13:59,520 --> 02:14:02,160
Speaker 1: don't know how far gone he is, but we're gonna

2505
02:14:02,160 --> 02:14:04,000
Speaker 1: find out. I think he's gonna be on the field somewhere.

2506
02:14:04,040 --> 02:14:06,240
Speaker 1: We'll see. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll see you noon

2507
02:14:06,280 --> 02:14:07,760
Speaker 1: to three here on one Bill's Live