1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Katty and now He Armstrong and Yeddy. 4 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 3: Easter Sunday happens to fall on the same day as 5 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 3: the marijuana holiday for twenty which means, no matter what 6 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: your religion, this Sunday, you're probably going to see a 7 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: giant bunny. 8 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 2: Why was Conan O'Brien doing a joke? Is that old? Yeah, 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: it's an old class Okay, got you? Yeah, gotcha? 10 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 11 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: I love Conan. 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: Made a really serious point, But why would I I 13 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: got an article from The Oregonian about disappearing church going 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: in Oregon. Maybe I'll hit that later. Makes me sad? 15 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: Might just be nostalgia. Is it because I think religion 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: is so important? Or is it just nostalgia Sometimes it's 17 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: hard to separate in my head. It might be a 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: little of both. 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 4: But I think it's an instinctive reaction, honestly, I do so. 20 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 4: Coming up, AOC and Bernard Sanders are on their Fighting 21 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 4: Oligarchy tour. 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: Yeah good, and. 23 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 4: They hit one of the delightfully red parts of California. 24 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 4: Folsom California side of the famous Johnny Cash prison and 25 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 4: we're calling out Congressman Kevin Kylie bad mouthing him in 26 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 4: front of the hordes. Well, Kevin is going to answer 27 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 4: later this hour on the Armstrong and Getty Show, looking 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 4: forward to that. 29 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 5: They should open falls of prison to olig Ox, They 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 5: should tell Lucy inmates who are victims of white supremacy 31 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 5: and capitalism. 32 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 4: So yesterday we talked at length about the battle between 33 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 4: the Trump administration and Harvard and the bigger issue of 34 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 4: how to clean up the infection that is Neo Marxism 35 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 4: in our education system in general, but especially in our 36 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 4: colleges and universities. How do we get back to the 37 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 4: principles of the free exchange of ideas and academic freedom 38 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 4: and the horrible like Dei. 39 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: Statements and that sort of thing. How do how do 40 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: we clean that out? 41 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 4: How do we fix that without violating our own principles? 42 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 4: The Trump administration will very short summary then I want 43 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: to get into some folks ideas that the email to us. 44 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: But we were saying, if Trump uses the powers of 45 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: the federal government to control what's taught in colleges, the 46 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: next lunatic left sho to get in office. 47 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: Is going to do the same thing, right, right? 48 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: Too many executive orders, not enough, Congress not enough, the 49 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: culture demands. 50 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: But at the same time, why would any administration be 51 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: in favor of gazillions of dollars a taxpayer money going 52 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: to a college that you feel like is teaching things 53 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: opposite everything you believe? 54 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: Right? 55 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: Why doesthetical to the principles of the country, never mind 56 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: what I believe? 57 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 4: Why would taxpayers fund that? Okay, so a bunch of emails, 58 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 4: I said, all right, how do we do this? What 59 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 4: techniques should we use that? Does anybody have any thoughts? 60 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 4: And as always, you guys, you folks, responded with brilliance 61 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: and creativity. 62 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: Let's see this is. 63 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 4: And there's a bunch here, Jack, Well, just we'll sort 64 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 4: through them and discuss as necessary. Sarah with a nice 65 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 4: note about going back to grad school the first time 66 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: in twenty ten twenty eleven, the second time in twenty 67 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 4: nineteen through twenty one in California and how the viewpoint 68 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 4: diversity on campus in that first stint was challenging but 69 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 4: not impossible, but by twenty nineteen through twenty one, and 70 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 4: exacerbated by COVID, she writes, I noticed social justice and 71 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 4: every every class, rubric incorporated into instruction in every class, 72 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 4: which seemed to be legally required and actually is in California, 73 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 4: which is sick. So you know, and some people said, dudes, 74 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you're concerned about you don't want 75 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 4: the government to control what's being taught. They're controlling it 76 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 4: like crazy right now, reinforcing the neo Marxism. 77 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. So that was more about her experience. 78 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: Now on the ideas, there wasn't any pushback from the 79 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: universities when you're jamming, you know, Marxist philosophy in there 80 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: with the government funding. There was no pushback because the 81 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: universities were happy to teach it. So it didn't really 82 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: make the news, right, Yeah. 83 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 4: So Jennifer writes a nice note, love hearing your thoughts 84 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 4: on academic freedom today. I'm glad it's always that you 85 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: don't just follow along with the latest Trump caper or 86 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 4: caprice note to self, use the term caprice more. I 87 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 4: was pleased to hear the discomfort in your voice as 88 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: you pondered as directives to Harvard academic and freedom and 89 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 4: tenure have a long entangled origin. 90 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: And she goes into some of the history of it. 91 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 4: But academic freedom and tenure have their roots in protecting 92 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 4: institutions and individuals from incoming rulers and administrations. Protecting the 93 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 4: scientists whose theories went against the teachings of the church. 94 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 4: For example, academic freedom meant no more burning heretical academics 95 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 4: at the stake. Intention was a very, very wise and 96 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 4: benign one. There cannot be scientific progress, or controversial literature, 97 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 4: new forms of artistic expression, or questioning the King without 98 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 4: art without economic freedom. Removing academic freedom, which is what 99 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 4: Trump is trying to do. You know, I would interject, 100 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 4: but Jennifer's. 101 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: No academic freedom. 102 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: Right now, we know that you cannot be a scientist 103 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: at Harvard and not believe in climate change. You couldn't 104 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: or publish a paper. You couldn't do that. So that's 105 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: not academic freedom. 106 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 4: Well right, And I'm going to interject here, Jennifer, because 107 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 4: I think she is semi unintentionally stated exactly the problem. 108 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to rephrase her sentence. 109 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 4: Removing academic freedom, which is what Trump is trying to do. 110 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: To restore any semblance of academic freedom, would basically reverse 111 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 4: a thousand years of progress. Well, that would be true 112 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 4: if it were not already snuffed out on college CAMPI 113 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 4: to to you know, in the vast majority of them, 114 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 4: but now, okay, to solutions. I liked your leaning toward 115 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 4: a reasonable stance of actually enforcing existing civil rights laws 116 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 4: and then working to change culture within institutions. What Trump 117 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 4: is trying to do woul bring on predictable chaos. Honestly, 118 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: with the vitriol coming from the far left, I truly 119 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 4: believe that if they ever gained real power, conservatives of 120 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 4: any stripe would be in literal danger. I'd hate to 121 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 4: see Trump setting them up for that and that much power. 122 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: Well, one of the questions I was asking is why 123 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: are they getting federal money anyway? Harvard is sitting on 124 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,559 Speaker 1: fifty three billion dollars and the Wall Street Journal actually 125 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: has an article today. Is Harvard's fifty three billion dollars 126 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: endowment big enough to offs at the funny cuts? 127 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: I haven't read it yet, but I've got an interest 128 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 2: than that. Yeah, that's I was question. 129 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: I would just pull back and say, fine, well, we'll 130 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: fund it ourselves. 131 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 132 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 4: We also had an emailer staunchly defending taxpayer paid for 133 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 4: research at universities. 134 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: I get it. Very very good defense. 135 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: Get I get why it would work, but I get 136 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: the theory, kind of like that person was talking about. 137 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: But the reality is the reality is there's only one 138 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: point of view that's allowed, including research. So I don't 139 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: want my taxpayer money going to universities that only allow 140 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: research that fits in with their politics. 141 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, more strictly spent to research, money, more reasonably 142 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 4: spent would be fine. 143 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: Here's a note from Tim here. 144 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 4: I liked your thoughts on reigning and Harvard and other 145 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 4: and their DEI programs, among other things. Here's my ideas 146 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 4: for doing that to them in other colleges that push 147 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 4: woke ideology. The government should sue them for any violations 148 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 4: of any law. Recruit plaintiffs who have been agreed by 149 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 4: the woke pol season represent them in lawsuits. I love 150 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 4: that withhold every diamond support, ask alumni to withhold their 151 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: financial support. Expose them for the leftist agenda they're pushing 152 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 4: on the students. Make it clear that a degree from 153 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 4: Harvard has become a liability and not an asset. Yeah, okay, 154 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 4: So combination of you know, attention on the progress the 155 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: problem and enforcing laws strictly and consistently. 156 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: This reminds me a little bit of the problem with the. 157 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: From the left, and we didn't agree with this their 158 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: idea of fixing racism with more racism. Yeah, this has 159 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: got a little bit of the fixing lack of academic 160 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: freedom with more of a lack of academic freedom. 161 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 4: Right, That's that's what troubles me about it. And it's 162 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 4: a conundrum. It's a hard you know, not to crack, 163 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 4: which is why we ask for input from the folks. 164 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 4: A couple more. Our friend, Frank, Thanks Frank. It's an 165 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 4: honor to be your friend, writes the Real Culprit. The 166 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 4: original sin if you Will is the Higher Education Act 167 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 4: of nineteen sixty five, which is the legislation that allows 168 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 4: the federal government who influence a private colleges policies and 169 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 4: operations if it or its students. 170 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: Receives any federal money. This must be rescinded. 171 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 4: Hillsdale College is famous for not taking federal money and 172 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 4: is therefore immune from federal meddling. This age is just 173 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 4: one of the lefty strategies that's caused the left to 174 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 4: expand their power. 175 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: This is the if you still live with your parents, 176 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to follow their rules principle. 177 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, and it's notable that this was, you know, 178 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 4: during the reign of the Benevolent Great Society LBJ, who 179 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 4: decimated the American family, particularly the black family, by subsidizing families, 180 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 4: breaking up kids out of wedlock, the rest of it. 181 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: If you ever have any time, look at the comparison 182 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 4: of employment rates, imprisonment rates, education rates, et cetera among 183 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 4: Black Americans between nineteen fifty and nineteen seventy. You'll read 184 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 4: some stuff that will open your eyes. Let's see, this 185 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 4: is kind of neither here nor there, but I liked it. 186 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 4: Kim writing about how does school districts enforce equity in Oregon? 187 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 4: Because the problem goes all the way down to K 188 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,239 Speaker 4: through twelve. In one case, in the town of Independence, 189 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 4: they couldn't find replacements for special needs teachers who were 190 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 4: absent for a very short period, so they closed down 191 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 4: the entire school because it would be inequitable to give 192 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 4: the vast majority of students instructional time that the special 193 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 4: needs students didn't get crazy. That's crazy again, that's not exactly, 194 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 4: but it's just more of the insanity. We're trying to 195 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 4: fight a couple more. We got a great note from 196 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 4: Mary who is the chairman and CEO of. 197 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: Independent institute. 198 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 4: That works on this stuff a lot, and she recommended 199 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 4: a couple of books that they are part of, including 200 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 4: when they just released two days ago, Let Colleges Fail 201 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 4: The Power of Creative Destruction and Higher Education. And Mary 202 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 4: will absolutely be in touch about the book and about 203 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 4: what you all are trying to do. 204 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: Sounds just terrific. Yeah, there needs to be a little 205 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: more of that. 206 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 4: And you know what's interesting is colleges and universities have 207 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:13,359 Speaker 4: become so much like all the other giant, bloated, stupid 208 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 4: bureaucracies we talk about all the time. They are so 209 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: in bed with the government at this point, exactly the 210 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 4: same dynamics are at play. There's no responsiveness to taxpayers. 211 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 4: They just get bigger and bigger, no matter how bad 212 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 4: they are at their jobs. 213 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm really intrigued by that. 214 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 4: How about Randy in Pennsylvania listening to your comments blah 215 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 4: blah blah. Intentionally or not, Trump is doing what needs 216 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 4: to be done by getting this out in the open 217 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 4: for people to see what's going on, especially to hear 218 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 4: the progressive responses, which would shock many of us Hopefully 219 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 4: this will encourage people to get involved locally by getting 220 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 4: onto school boards to make a change at local levels. 221 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 4: I attended a day long program last Thursday by the 222 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 4: Institute of Faith and Freedom at Grove City College again Pennsylvania. 223 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 4: Can only say that I was hugely encouraged by the 224 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 4: dialogue provided by for recent grads, very refreshing. I like 225 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 4: that attack it at the elementary and high school levels, 226 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 4: local school boards. This is tom Leave. You touched on 227 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 4: it a little bit yesterday. You were mentioning letting the 228 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 4: free market decide. I think that's one part of it. 229 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 4: The other part of it is doing what we're doing 230 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 4: now simply stated, no federal funding of discriminatory policies or 231 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 4: violation of. 232 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: Civil rights laws. Yeah, that's true. That's absolutely true. 233 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: Ideological bigotry so much harder to root out, all right, 234 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: How would you have any sort of rule where you 235 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: force Harvard to fund research that doesn't believe in climate change? 236 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: Right? 237 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 4: Final note, we're gonna squeeze it in Burbank Luke, guys, 238 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 4: I hope this problem takes care of itself. You touched 239 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 4: on it yesterday. A degree from Harvard and others carries baggage. 240 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 4: Now the job applicant is not only possibly a leftist activist, 241 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 4: but you now have to wonder how smart they are. 242 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 4: I'm an engineer, and we only care about experience. I 243 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 4: know dozens of solid engineers who went to quote unquote 244 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 4: lesser schools who've done astounding stuff. Frankly, the elite engineering schools, 245 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 4: two of which are might now woke Alma Maters, been 246 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 4: overrated for a long time and aren't worth the tuition. 247 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: That's interesting. 248 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: Wow, Wow sucks if you sent your kid there and 249 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: paid for it. We've got a lot of thanks for 250 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: your thoughts, everybody. We appreciate it. Yeah, that's good stuff. 251 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 6: At car dealerships across the country, the rush to beat 252 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 6: the tariffs is on. Even customers who really don't need 253 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 6: a car are buying now before prices could rise by 254 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 6: as much as twenty five percent, and used car invatory 255 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 6: is also shrinking, but buyers shopping for cheaper options than 256 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 6: new cars with prices short rise, used car sales up 257 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 6: twelve percent compared to a year ago. 258 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: What was your takeaway from that? You look shocked. Well, 259 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: if you don't need a car, why are you buying 260 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: one at all? 261 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 7: I mean. 262 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 4: Your car will lasts until things change again, unless you 263 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 4: think there's some sort of permanent, actual long term protectionist plying, 264 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 4: which I don't. 265 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: No, No, I'll tell you what a guy told me 266 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: the other day. I was talking to this guy who 267 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: was doing some work for me. He's asking about my cyberbeast, 268 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, my oldest son got too tall 269 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: for the back seat of my car, so I needed something. 270 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, that seems like a good excuse. 271 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: People want an excuse to buy a different car. Yeah, 272 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: that's what they're doing. That percentage of people. That was 273 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: all it needed to say, Well, honey, I suppose we better. 274 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, as soon as you reach a level of financial 275 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 4: comfort that buying a car is not because the last 276 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 4: one won't run anymore and you desperately need. 277 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's excuse making. 278 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: So tomorrow is good Friday, I say with guilt in that, 279 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: and I don't I don't even. 280 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: Know where this comes from, being. 281 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: Completely open and honest about this, I don't even know 282 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: where the guilt comes from that I'm not. I don't 283 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: do anything for good Friday. I'm not planning to go 284 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: to church on Sunday. And more importantly, my guilt is 285 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: about the fact that I don't have my kids going 286 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: to church on Sunday, and I don't know. I went 287 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: to church on Sunday for Easter when I was a 288 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: kid and did all the Eastern stuff and I enjoyed it, actually, 289 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: so I feel guilty about that. 290 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: I was looking at these statistics. 291 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: The decline in people who call themselves Christians has leveled 292 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: off since twenty nineteen. It had been declining for quite 293 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: a few years. Now it's leveled off and it's not 294 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: declining anymore. Here are the latest numbers, which I thought 295 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: was kind of interesting. Nationally. Well, let me just do 296 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: these organ numbers because I thought it was interesting. And 297 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: this is from an Oregon newspaper and they're just talking 298 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: about organ which is less churchy than the rest of 299 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: the country. But it's kind of an interesting glimpse in 300 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: TI your non churchy states like Oregon, in California, I'm 301 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: sure in two thousand as recently a two thousand and seven, 302 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: two thirds of adults in Oregon identified themselves as Christians. 303 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: By the most recent survey last year, it's down to 304 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: forty three, so it dropped from sixty seven to forty 305 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: three from two thirty eight. 306 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 4: God, that's quite a drop and a pretty short amount flushing, 307 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 4: isn't it. I'd love to hear an explanation of that. 308 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 4: Is it is there a been mass migration. 309 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: And for the whole country it went from seventy eight 310 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: so damn near eighty percent in two thousand and seven 311 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: called themselves Christians and it's still sixty two percent. But 312 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: that's a that's a healthy drop. Yeah, but it is 313 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: leveled off and it hasn't dropped over the last three years. 314 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. Just thrown it out there. 315 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would never want anything close to theocracy, but 316 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 4: to deny that the foundation of English common law in 317 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 4: the Constitution has a lot to do with Judeo Christian 318 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 4: principles just being ignorant. They are intertwined. 319 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: What are we coming up? 320 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 4: Kevin Kylie, congressman from a conservative part of California, claps 321 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 4: back against AOC and Bernie who called him out the other. 322 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 7: Day, Armstrong and getdy. 323 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 8: Kevin Kylie knows that this is not what you want. 324 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: He knows that it is deeply unpopular. 325 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: He knows that it hurts the people of fulsome, but he. 326 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: Is not there to serve working families. 327 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 8: He is there to serve himself and the billionaire class 328 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 8: that put him there. Well, mister Kylie, I think some 329 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 8: of your constituents have a message for you. Don't vote 330 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 8: to give tax breaks to billionaires and cut programs that 331 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 8: the working class of this country desperately needs. 332 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: Man. I wish, I wish we could talk to this 333 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: Kevin Kylie person, but he's probably busy giving a foot 334 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: rub to some oligarch right now. 335 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 4: Oh, I tell you what typical of former English high 336 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 4: school teachers. Kevin Kylie has become an unrecognizable monster, apparently 337 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 4: according to AOC and Bernie, And we'll talk to the 338 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 4: monster now. Congressman Kevin Kylie of California's third District, Kevin, 339 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 4: how are you, sir? 340 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 7: I'm doing well. So nice of you to welcome you. 341 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 9: To your program, despite you know what you've heard from 342 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 9: our friends Bernie and AOC. 343 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: There, you're currently on your hands and knees serving as 344 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: a footstool for an oligarch. 345 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 7: Oh my god, it's crazy. 346 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 9: Did you see she's fly first class for this fight oligarchy? 347 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 2: Score? Yeah, right right? 348 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 4: Seriously, And Kevin, you're not going to blow your own 349 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 4: horn but if you if you knew Kevin, a former 350 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 4: high school teacher, son of a teacher, who believes in 351 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 4: fiscal responsibility, educational choice, you know, American values. To to 352 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 4: call them some sort of lackey for all of ours 353 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 4: is hilarious. But how would you respond to the screens 354 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 4: that you've heard? 355 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, where do I even begin. Well, for 356 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 9: one thing, you know, I actually told both of them 357 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 9: and I said, look, I'll debate you while you're in 358 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 9: town if you want. But no, they much prefer to 359 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 9: just stand up behind a teleprompter and attack me from 360 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 9: there than actually try to defend their ideas. But it's 361 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 9: like when you look at what they advocate for. Okay, 362 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 9: they want their socialists. They have a social's division for America. 363 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 9: They believe in open borders, they believe in defunding the police. 364 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 9: They believe in essentially attacking and effectively abolishing small businesses 365 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 9: or at least making life miserable for them. These ideas 366 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 9: have actually been implemented in the very states. 367 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: That they visited. 368 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 9: In California, no more so than in places like San Francisco, 369 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 9: or in Oakland or some Los Angeles. So we don't 370 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 9: have to theorize about what the consequences are. We can 371 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 9: see it in the real world that many Californians have 372 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 9: had to live with, and what are the consequences because 373 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 9: we have at a cont full crime and homelessness and poverty, 374 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 9: and ironically enough inequality. California has one of the most 375 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 9: is one of the most highest. 376 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 7: Inequality states in the entire country. So I'd say, just 377 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 7: look at the reality that we have. 378 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 9: Fortunately, I happen to represent an area where we do 379 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 9: things differently, and precisely because of that, we've managed to 380 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 9: maintain a much higher quality of life than the rest 381 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 9: of California. 382 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: That's quite a crowd they drew, though enthusiastic crowd, as 383 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: Burnie always does. You know, there's just enough chunk of 384 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: people that buy that whole socialist vision that show up 385 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: and cheerleg crazy and I can't. So they're trying to 386 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: do what Trump did, where he would go into blue 387 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: areas and draw a big crowd of excited conservatives that 388 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: don't feel represented in that area and then call out 389 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: the local person and then make a lot of news 390 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: that way. So I guess that's the whole point is 391 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: to get you to respond. I don't see how it 392 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: benefits them exactly though. 393 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know, and you don't know how many 394 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 7: people cobby from. 395 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 9: You know about it a laguaria and how our people 396 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 9: come from. So you know, but look, I feel like, 397 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 9: you know, people want to go and participate in that. 398 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 9: I think it's fine. I think that people of whatever 399 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 9: viewpoint they are is, whether you're far or less communists 400 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 9: or wherever you are on the spectrum, I think it's 401 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 9: it's a healthy thing to be an active participant in 402 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 9: the political process. 403 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 7: It just so happens that the ideas that ms. 404 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 9: Ocassio Cortes and Senator Standards are espousing are completely disastrous. 405 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: Right, So you know, the Trump example is he's going 406 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: around the country touting something that is majority mostly things 407 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: that were majority popular or close to go ahead and 408 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: nominate Bernie Ocassio Cortez. The lose forty eight states, So 409 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: go ahead, you know, get as much attention as you want, exactly. 410 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 9: So, I mean, honestly, I think it's a great thing 411 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 9: in the sense that they're providing a very clear contrast 412 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 9: that we have a choice between radical socialism, which has 413 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 9: failed disasters everywhere it's been tried, including in places like 414 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 9: San Francisco, or a return of the common sense that 415 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 9: is sweeping the country right now and that is desperately 416 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 9: needed in California. 417 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 4: Congressman Kevin Kylie on the line serves California's third district 418 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 4: to a very sane quadrant of California, not far from 419 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 4: the radio ranch at all. So, Kevin, I love the 420 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 4: point you made about the income inequality in California, and 421 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 4: it brought to mind a couple of stories I've heard 422 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 4: from friends who are small business people and or would 423 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 4: be small business people who tried to get something started 424 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 4: that would employ people and thereby feed and clothe them 425 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 4: and educate their children, and the bureaucrats extorted them for 426 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 4: either just exhorbitant amounts of money and permit fees and 427 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 4: that sort of thing, or the paperwork was so dizzying 428 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 4: it just discouraged them from doing it at all. 429 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 7: Oh, that's right, exactly. 430 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 9: And it's terrible at the state level in California. And 431 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 9: then you go to places like Los Angeles or San 432 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 9: Francisco or Oakland, and then you pile on the bureau 433 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 9: officey there, and it's why so many small businesses are 434 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 9: I mean, people in every community in California can tell 435 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 9: you their favorite restaurant had to shut down or their 436 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 9: favorite small business had to shut down. It's why you 437 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 9: a look at San Francisco. They've been leaving in droves. 438 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 9: And you know, California also has the highest level of 439 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 9: real poverty of every state in the country. 440 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 7: Think about that. 441 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 9: We've had one party rule for a long long time, 442 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 9: Gavin Newsom and the supermajority legislature, and they've produced the 443 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 9: highest poverty rate in the United States. 444 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. 445 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: That's quite a stat say say that again, so I 446 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: fully understand it. 447 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 9: California has the highest poverty rate in the United States 448 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 9: when you factor in the cost of living. That is 449 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 9: sort of the wild you know. Verdict for what these 450 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 9: policies give you is they give you precisely the opposite 451 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 9: of what Bernie and AOC are promising. 452 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: Newsome twenty twenty eight. 453 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 4: Who's with me, so, Kevin, We've had an extended discussion 454 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 4: over the last couple of days about the situation in 455 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 4: American education K through PhD and and it's our belief 456 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 4: that it's it's it's a huge challenge for the United 457 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 4: States that so many of our educational institutions are teaching 458 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 4: our kids to despise their country and Western civilization and 459 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 4: that sort of thing. 460 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 2: It's awful. 461 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 4: You come from an education background, I know it's near 462 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 4: and dear to your heart. Do you have any thoughts 463 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 4: on how do we restore some semblance excuse me, of 464 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 4: academic freedom without taking away academic freedom by you know, 465 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 4: heavy handed mandates on college. 466 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 2: Is that something you think about much? 467 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, that's a great question. And you know, of 468 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 9: course this is all coming to a head with this 469 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 9: showdown between the administration and Harvard, But you know, we 470 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 9: need to think about what exactly happened on that and 471 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 9: a number of other campuses across this country. 472 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 7: You had this. 473 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 9: Absolutely abhorrent explosion in anti semitism. This isn't like some 474 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 9: small thing that went wrong. It's one of the world's 475 00:24:55,000 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 9: most abhorrent, recro grade, ancient prejudices that suddenly for antilite 476 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 9: in this horrifying way, that threatened the safety of students, 477 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 9: that they took over buildings, they shut down campuses. 478 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 7: Essentially, essentially, people didn't feel safe on campus. 479 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 9: And so I think that that has led many people 480 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 9: to ask what has gone so incredibly wrong? 481 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 7: On these campuses. 482 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 9: And it's not the sort of thing that the administration 483 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 9: is saying where you can just have some whatever, some 484 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 9: focus groups, some passport, some committee that says, okay, well 485 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 9: we'll try to do a little bit better. 486 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 7: No, this is exposed something that. 487 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 9: Is fundamentally wrong, problems that are deeply rooted in the 488 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 9: culture of academia that frankly have in some cases been 489 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 9: incubated at our universities and then spread throughout the country. 490 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 7: And so I think that there this is a time 491 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 7: where we need. 492 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 9: To demand fundamental reforms precisely to assure things like academic freedom. 493 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 7: Because remember, even. 494 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 9: Before the horrifying scenes we've seen over the last year 495 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 9: and a half, Harvard, just to take that as an example, again, 496 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 9: was the very worst college in the entire country when 497 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 9: it came to protecting free speech. There was a survey 498 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 9: fifty one colleges. They ranked them, how good are you 499 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 9: at actually allowing free speech, protecting the First Amendment? Harvard 500 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 9: was deadlas I forgot. 501 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. 502 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we'll have to schedule time to talk 503 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 4: at greater length about this, because again, I think it 504 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 4: may be the most important problem facing the United states. 505 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 4: But you're right, we need to call it out, raise awareness, 506 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 4: enforce the laws as they stand, and just chip away 507 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 4: at the deal. 508 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: Go back to making coffee for the oligarchs and we'll 509 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: let you go. 510 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's the monster described by and AOC and Bernie. 511 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 4: I hope your children weren't frightened. Rhetoric, Kevin Kylie always 512 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 4: always great to talk. 513 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 2: Keep fighting a good fight. 514 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 7: You bet, thanks for having me on. 515 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: So my joke about he was on his hands and 516 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: knees as a footstool for an oligark. The reason, the 517 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: reason that popped into my head is reading this book 518 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: yes today, and I won't get bogged down on what 519 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: it is, but it was about the elite private schools 520 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: in England in the. 521 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: Early twentieth century. 522 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: We talked about this before Christopher Hitchins Rights, about how 523 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: brutal they were. I mean it's just amazing. I mean, 524 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: if you were rich, you sent your kid to the 525 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: hardest to get in school, they were gonna be raped 526 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: or fondled, beaten, with no repercussions from bullies. 527 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: All kinds of horrible things. 528 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: Anyway, at length, yes, I was talking about the he 529 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: went to one of your super fancy private schools. I 530 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: mean he was like your upper crust of England. And 531 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: the headmaster, the guy who ran the school there, his 532 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: wife would make two of the kids get on their 533 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: hands and knees as a footstool for an evening at 534 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: the school. 535 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: Good work if you can get Oh my god, wow, 536 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 2: isn't that crazy? Wow? That you know? Oh boy? 537 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 4: I would love to talk to some some Brits about 538 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 4: how that fits into the overall British vibe, you know, 539 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 4: the culture. 540 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: And because that's so abhorrent. 541 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: Rich if you were rich, you sent your kids off 542 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: to be abused, and everybody knew it. It was because 543 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 1: most of them went to the same school. You went 544 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: to the school and were abused, and then you'd send 545 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: your kid to the same school to be abused. 546 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 4: Right, would become an obedient cog who repressed his feelings 547 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 4: and behaved in a very British way. 548 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: How that's what I was driving at. 549 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: And there's actually some great pop music about this sort 550 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: of thing, whether it's Pink Floyd's Another Brick in the 551 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: Wall Part two or Bloody Well Right, the super Tramp 552 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: classic about the British schooling system and how utterly dehumanizing. 553 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: It was intentionally Wow. So they didn't come out of 554 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: those schools, And thank god. One thing I'm never gonna 555 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: do is have my kid go to some place like that. 556 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: No, I did the opposite. 557 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting and it's remark arkably different than the 558 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 4: American spirit. 559 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say. 560 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: She would make a couple of kids get on their 561 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: hands and knees, so she'd use them much for a 562 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: footstool in her evenings. 563 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 4: That is that just be weird. I'm not sure I 564 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 4: want a human footstool. I mean, even if one were 565 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 4: offered to me, I'm not sure I would take you 566 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: up on the office. 567 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: I agree, I wouldn't feel right about it. It takes 568 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: a certain personality to be okay with that. Yeah, yes, 569 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: I will use you's furniture. Sure, don't get. 570 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: Any ideas, Jack, I'm not coming in the studio. We 571 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: have more of the ways there. 572 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 10: Do I believe that people would have a conversation with 573 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 10: me and get my perspective on things? 574 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 2: Sure? Do I believe they would ever. 575 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 10: Really really support me, Meaning those that have been entrench 576 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 10: within the Democratic Party are now and for the last 577 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 10: several years absolutely positively not look at what happened. I mean, 578 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 10: you can look at Andrew Cmo, you can look at 579 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 10: Al frankn you can look at a lot of different things. 580 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 10: And at least on the left, what they say is 581 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 10: that they eat their own, especially when they don't like you. 582 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: Steven A. 583 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: Smith, he's known as a sportscaster dabbling in politics, is 584 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: actually looking into running for president in twenty twenty eight. 585 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: He's on Hannity last night, perfectly aware that the left 586 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: eats its own, but he's prepared for that now. 587 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: A lot of young men. 588 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: I mean, his name recognition among young males is sky high. 589 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: And I might disagree with him on everything, but I 590 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: would never poo pooh him running for office because he's 591 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: a sportscaster. 592 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 4: He's a very bright guy. He chose that profession. He's 593 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 4: a citizen of the country. He has ideas run for office. 594 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: You got two Trump related things that I think are 595 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: interesting in these final minutes, so a lot of talk. Yesterday, 596 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: Judge came out and said he's going to hold various 597 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: people in contempt in the Trump administration if because they 598 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: did something. Rather, we got this text on Brett Beherr 599 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: last night, a Republican on the panel explained how the 600 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: judge saying the White House being held in criminal contempt 601 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: at court is because they were. And how about and 602 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: this person says, how about when they held Eric Holder 603 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: in contempt? Remember he was the Attorney General, the sitting 604 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: Attorney General was held in contempt by Congress. I can 605 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: hear America yelling, and what I've not seen him in jail. 606 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: He still makes speeches and runs in circles of power. 607 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: Nobody ever gets punished for being in contempt. Who cares well? 608 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 4: Being in contempt at Congress is different than being held 609 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 4: in contempt by a court. Okay, I have contempt for Congress. 610 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 4: I should be held in contempt of Congress. I have 611 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 4: practically nothing but contempt for Congress. Yeah, so legally it's 612 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 4: a different thing. 613 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: And this which I think is interesting from the New 614 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: York Times been expecting an attack on Iran any day. 615 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: New York Times says Israel had planned to strike Iranian 616 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: nuclear sites as soon as next month, but has been 617 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: waved off by President Trump in recent weeks in favor 618 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: of negotiating a deal with Turan to limit its nuclear program. 619 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: That's according to administration official and others briefed on the discussions. 620 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: Why they're telling the New York Times, I don't know, 621 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: might be on purpose. 622 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 623 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: Mister Trump made his decision after months of internal debate 624 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: over whether to pursue diplomacy or support Israel and seeking 625 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: to set back Iran's ability to build a bomb at 626 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: a time when Iran has been weakened militarily and economically. 627 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: I think they've got to go now. 628 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: But he's trying diplomacy first, which I suppose is a 629 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: good thing. And Mark Alprin's take on it is that 630 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: the buzz in DC continues to escalate, that there will 631 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: in fact be some sort of US Israeli strike before 632 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: too long on Iran. 633 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you said you think they've got to go now. 634 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 4: What do you mean by now, before they have a 635 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 4: chance to rebuild their I mean not like now, like today, 636 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 4: I mean like this year, right, which is what I'm 637 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 4: driving at is I suspect very strongly. Trump's teams said, look, 638 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 4: we've got to have the political cover of we tried diplomacy. 639 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 4: And I know they've been trying diplomacy for years and years, 640 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 4: but let's take our shot at it now. It's going 641 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 4: to go down in flames, and then we and BB 642 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,959 Speaker 4: bring the thunder. I suspect that's the strategy. That's going 643 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,239 Speaker 4: to be a big deal. I know you weren't here 644 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 4: on Friday. I talked to Mike Lyons about this and 645 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 4: he confirmed what. 646 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't available. I was watching golf. He confirmed what 647 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: I've been saying. This would be the biggest military action 648 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: by the United States of America since Shocking on two 649 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: thousand and three. 650 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 2: It's a big deal. 651 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: Clearly, it's not going to be just one of those 652 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: things where you read in the paper, you know, we 653 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: launched a couple of air strikes and killed an Al 654 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: Kaita member or something like that. 655 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 2: It's going to be a big deal. 656 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 4: And the resulting diplomacy with some of our friends in 657 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 4: the air world is going to be a little complicated 658 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 4: for a minute. It'll be just full of posturing and 659 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 4: them shouting about oh, an American monster, blah blah blah, 660 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 4: and then calling a White House and saying, hey, nice job, 661 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 4: love it. 662 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: Every country in the Middle East would be thrilled to 663 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: see Iran knock down a pagan, not get a bomb. 664 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely true. 665 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 4: But it's gonna happen, and that'll make the diplomacy is 666 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 4: going to fail and the bombs are gonna fall because 667 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 4: Iran Tehran is going to try as hard as they 668 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 4: can to pretend to negotiate and come up with some 669 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 4: sort of lukewarm deal that buys them time. 670 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: Right, the Secretary of State sureahawk on this. Oh yeah, And. 671 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 672 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: I suppose it comes down to whether or not Iran 673 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,720 Speaker 1: believes Trump would actually do it, And maybe they believe 674 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: enough that he'll do it that they think, you know what, 675 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: there's no point in having our city destroyed. 676 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 8: Me. 677 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 1: Oh, that's the other thing. Mike Client said, this would 678 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: be regime change. This would be have to be regime change. 679 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: That's what would the goal would be? 680 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 9: Here? 681 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 2: How intriguing. 682 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 4: I may grab that and listen to it via podcast 683 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 4: Armstrong and Getty on demand Friday's show. If I missed that, 684 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 4: and I did, I was watching golf. 685 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: So launching a regime change in a Middle Eastern country 686 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: often leads to around for a while. 687 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 4: Oh my, oh wait, now, hold hold on, give me 688 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 4: a minute. Yeah, golly, well, it's a complicated world, isn't it. 689 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 2: Spicy time? 690 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: So here's the deal. We do twenty hours a week. 691 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: We do four hours a day. If you don't get 692 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: every segment or every hour, you should get our podcast 693 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty on demand. Subscribe so it automatically shows 694 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: up in your phone or your computer wherever you listen 695 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: to podcasts 696 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty