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Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to Big You,

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Speaker 1: someone who is uh notorious figure in hip hop, La legend,

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Speaker 1: somebody who found Nipsey Hustle, somebody who is legendary in

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Speaker 1: of a new show on FX. It's called Hip Hop

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Speaker 1: Uncovered Really dope. Actually, the second week just aired on

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Speaker 1: then this Friday, the final two episodes will air. Hip

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Speaker 1: with Big U talk about a whole lot. Yo, I

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Speaker 1: feature in Big U Let's Get to It Boule Cab

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Speaker 1: Podcast with the Legend Big You is here. Well, se Man,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me, Thank you for coming. I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's long, long, long overdue man. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I ain't really did know a lot of interviews into

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Speaker 1: up until right now. Yeah you got you know this.

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Speaker 1: I watched yesterday. I went to uh to uh Mele's

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Speaker 1: Diner and Sherman Oaks and watched the first Was it

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Speaker 1: the first full episode or was that two episodes? That

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Speaker 1: only that's the only episode one. So this FX show,

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Speaker 1: it's it's hip hop uncovered, right, hip hop uncovered, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: hip hop uncovered. It follows you and four others as

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Speaker 1: for people who aren't familiar with big U, I think

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Speaker 1: that if people were to just google big You, they're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: don't I don't want to. I I don't want to put

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Speaker 1: but you know, explain to to the people who aren't

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Speaker 1: We pitched this show Jimmy Jimmy Chris came to me,

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Speaker 1: everybody was trying to get shows. And I had already

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Speaker 1: done like several documentaries. What people don't know about me

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Speaker 1: acted in Forced of Execution with Ving Range, Danny Treio,

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Speaker 1: but I did jam messag Jay, two Turn Troubles and

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Speaker 1: Microphone Documentary. I produced several different films. I managed Ving

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Speaker 1: Range for like seven seven eight years from baby Boy.

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Speaker 1: So it's just a lot of people never knew the

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Speaker 1: work that I've done, and so when I present projects,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy because uh, filmmakers are excited to see big

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Speaker 1: U rap music. It's scared to see their our owner.

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Speaker 1: they like, Yo, you can have a mini series. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's and their thing is that. But if I

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Speaker 1: go in with people who do music, it's the oh,

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Speaker 1: and they don't understand that I make most of my

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Speaker 1: the vision. Yeah, I think it was like overdue. I remember,

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Speaker 1: just like when is the big you like Netflix show coming,

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Speaker 1: not even like a documentary like someone plays you. You

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Speaker 1: what's going on? Type shit? Yeah, talk about your I

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Speaker 1: mean obviously for people who don't know, man, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we'll get it. We'll get into all of that. But

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Speaker 1: you know, you you found Nipsey. What was that O four,

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Speaker 1: Steve because Steve the time was dating my wife's niece. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So that's how I know Steve. I don't know Steve

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Speaker 1: He was kind of having some kind of conflict with

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Speaker 1: that's how me and Steve met, And then he called

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, right. But then I was messed

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Speaker 1: So that was technically was that technically before death Row? Right,

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Speaker 1: was finna get rolled up, he was transferring, so he

426
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 1: gave me the CNS back. We on lockdown, and I

427
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,360
Speaker 1: slapped in Woo Tang Clan and that shit went crazy,

428
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 1: and so it was like oooh, thank cleaning. Ain't nothing

429
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 1: the fuck, And I was like damn, I slipped up

430
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: these dudes and the cream, but we was on lockdown,

431
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,959
Speaker 1: so it's no movement. Then I'm like, man, I slapped

432
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: in Biggie and I'm like this shit hard at fuck.

433
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: And that was like my introduction to Biggie. I was Cali.

434
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: I was at Calipat State Prison, and I was like, damn,

435
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: the East Coast is back home because the West had

436
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: had it, had it for so long. It's like the

437
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: chronic yeah yeah, And let me tell you, man, it's

438
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 1: crazy because people always asking me how long I've been

439
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: in music. I was fucking music. I remember I pushed

440
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 1: the ghetto boys in La, Okay, for anybody else read

441
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 1: these Nikes. I was in Minnesota selling dope and one

442
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 1: of my homeboys, one of my homeboys from Minnesota, it

443
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 1: gave me the tape. No. I was listening to his

444
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 1: tape and then I was We was in the car

445
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 1: and I was tripping off. They was talking about read

446
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: these Nikes, because that's all I used to wear was

447
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: Nikes back you remember, wasn't number like Nike, Adidas and Converse,

448
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: and they were something. I read these Nikes. No got

449
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 1: hooked on ghetto boys. I went home and I dubbed.

450
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: I went there back and dubbed the tapes. That's what

451
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: I used to I came back to LA and I

452
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: told all the homies, man, the ghetto boys, these niggas

453
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: is hard. They blew up from there, you know what

454
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: I mean? Because our music, if you remember, if you

455
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: remember back then, we was like game banging to R

456
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: and B music. Yeah, it was like pop music to Prince. Yeah.

457
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: And don't even think like even like LA rap back then,

458
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: like even like if you think before n w A,

459
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 1: it was like iced tea. Yeah, it was in the morning. Yeah,

460
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: it was you know, like Colors, Yeah, Colors was crazy. Yeah. No,

461
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: So I want to just ask you, Okay, So the

462
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: perception I think from the outside looking in is like

463
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: it would be a good idea if you come to

464
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 1: LA to maybe tap been with Big U or to

465
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: maybe check in with Big U. Is that something that

466
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,959
Speaker 1: is maybe a bit amplified, because I feel I know

467
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: that that's not the case, but I feel like that

468
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: there is like you know, or at least some sort

469
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: of it's hella amplified. But I feel like certain people

470
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: would be good too, you know what I mean, Like,

471
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: especially if you're from certain genres. I think I think

472
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: when you from certain genres, you want to check in

473
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: with that genre because well I get the question all

474
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: the time, and like, well, the influence well, unfortunately LA

475
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: is influenced by games, you know what I mean. So

476
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: if it's certain people you need to check in with

477
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: YG whack one hundred whacko. If it's certain people need

478
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: to check in with Big U. You need to check

479
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: in with Tone, you need to check it with Magic,

480
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: you need to check in with the Twins to make

481
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: your gangster. You need to check in with certain people

482
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: who're gonna help, you know, how to move in different ways.

483
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: Who gonna let you know, like you know, like these dudes,

484
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: what you're claiming and what you affiliated with. They not

485
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: our enemies at this time, but they could be our

486
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: enemies in a day's noticing. We don't even know it,

487
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: but we know how to move around, you know what

488
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: I mean. So it's important for me to have a

489
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: relationship with dudes from every set, from a Tray's, bloods, gangsters,

490
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: all of that, because we want to show respect. And

491
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: I feel like people from all the sets give me

492
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: respect because they see my history, they see my work ethic,

493
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: they see that I've never if my home was is wrong,

494
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say my homeway wrong. I'm not gonna side

495
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: with my homeway right or wrong, pied point blank. I

496
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 1: didn't do them. I don't do it my kids. I

497
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 1: teach my kids do right wrong, you know. But I'm

498
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: going to support truth and in prison and in thirteen years,

499
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: the dudes I did time with can come home and

500
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 1: vouch for that. You know what I'm like, No, whatever

501
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 1: he said was, he kept his word. So that's what

502
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: I think gets me strength in LA And the whole

503
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: time I was with should, we never had one conflict

504
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: because I just didn't allow it, you know what I mean,

505
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: not that I could controlling, but you know, sometimes you

506
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: gotta know how to appeal to a beast, you know

507
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, bro, this, we don't need this.

508
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: I would always say, like, you know, me and Heady

509
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: talks about this, like if if if you're somebody who's

510
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: coming to LA and you come from that background, from

511
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: wherever you're from, it's probably a good idea. Now maybe

512
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: if you're like maybe if you're like you know, post

513
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: Malone or R and B singer or somebody, you know

514
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna get checked too. Post Malone will get checked. Two.

515
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: I've been in there with post I've been in I've

516
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: been in rooms with post. That was just an example.

517
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: By the way, I didn't know that he got checked

518
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: by tell the story. I mean, it wasn't about me.

519
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: I was just in the room when some dudes wanted

520
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: to get on post Malone and it was recording, and

521
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: I happened to New Noice know the people, and we

522
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: was coming in me and Steve was doing something and

523
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: we was leaving out. It was my first time ever

524
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: meeting him. And sometimes people don't know you could get

525
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: I could squash shit and don't even know and don't

526
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: even say nothing because it just was the timing, Like oh,

527
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because that's just the mentality

528
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: of people. Man Like it's never gonna change because it's

529
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: gonna always be the halves. There's always to have nots.

530
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: And it ain't even game related, you understand what I'm saying,

531
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: because you got game members doing something to their own

532
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: gangs in the name of money. So it's not all

533
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: and it's all. And they asked me the question about

534
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: hip hop and the gangs in hip hop, where there's

535
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: always been gangs in music, we just don't we just

536
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 1: see it now because our music is the number one

537
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: giohnt you think back in the day like Frank Sinatra

538
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 1: had like, yeah, we just have mafia tis yeah, mafia orders. Right,

539
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: this is what it is because anybody who's trying to

540
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: make money, the easiest way to get in it is

541
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: in this music. Like, if you got money, you want

542
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: to put it somewhere, like we don't have no other outlets.

543
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: That's what this documentary talks about. Hip Hop on Cover

544
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: talks about when we were hustling and then we eventually

545
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: took that money to get into something, to try to

546
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: do something positive. You know, you might have a cousin

547
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: or auntie. I'm a cousin or uncle, a friend who

548
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: wants to do music. Okay, what in these studio time

549
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: I got you? You know, and then it starts going

550
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: past that. You start seeing the little jade, You start

551
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: seeing the hereos, start seeing the dudes making it, making it.

552
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: And that's what hip hop n told is it talks

553
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: about us and our struggles in music. You don't hear

554
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: about us. It's not geared towards the artists. It's geared

555
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: towards the people behind the artists. Like when I met you,

556
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: Like for instance, if I had a new artist right now,

557
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: like with OSBS, my group OSBS Criticality, I introduced them

558
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: and told them I called you to do an interview

559
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: with them. I heard you was coming here. That's hip

560
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: hop on cover. That's that's why they called us the

561
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 1: power brokers because we already had a relationships when you

562
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: first met Nipsey. Nipsey met you through Steve and me.

563
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: He didn't have that relationship with you. He couldn't have

564
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: called you. And what people don't understand is you need

565
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: those power brokers to help introduce you two people, and

566
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: then those power brokers have to have a trust in

567
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: a relationship that comes from somebody else. When I met

568
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: Phairy Phil, I don't talk about them, it's all now.

569
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: And I met Pheiry Fail. I met Phiry Phil and

570
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: him and Sure was having an altercation at at Male's Diner,

571
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: and I seen everybody going crazy and Sugar was coming

572
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: and Pelly Fail was sitting in the restaurant and so me,

573
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: just not wanting to know bullshit, I go in. I'm like,

574
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm asking Pail like I don't know. I don't even

575
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: know who he is at all. I have no clue

576
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: he was, And I'm like, bro, what's up with you? Man?

577
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: Like nothing? Like like he was Sugar. I'm like I

578
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: am And then he's like, man, what's happening. I'm like,

579
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: I ain't nothing to help. I'm trying to ask you

580
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: what's having Like Denny, I said, so, who are you?

581
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: He tell me on fairly Phil, And I'm like, SOI

582
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: what's your problem with Sugar? Are he mad at me

583
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: because DJ Quick dissed him on my show? I said,

584
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: you got a radio show? Like yeah, So I'm like,

585
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: I don't make no sense. So I go outside. I

586
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: talked to Sugar. I said, bro, why you donna do that?

587
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: And then he tell me, hold, I'm saying right like

588
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: it's it ain't fairly for I tell Phil, man gonna

589
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: just leave, feel like I'm not leaving. I gotta talk

590
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: to this dude. Man. Yeah, like I don't like, I

591
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: don't want to walk out. See what happens. No, no,

592
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: he wasn't saying and that he was saying he didn't

593
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: want to leave without talking to Shug because he was like, man,

594
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: I ain't did nothing to him. Now, I was like,

595
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: I was honorable to me, like I got to resolve it. Yes,

596
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: I ain't leaving. I'm gonna talk to the dude. And

597
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: I said, he's sure, baddy, but he kept it one hundred.

598
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: So now moving right along, we signed Nipsey I get

599
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: it fairly fail and I'm like, bro, I got a

600
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: new artist. Can you play the song? And that's how

601
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: you that those are relationships. You see what I'm saying.

602
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: He played bullets, Ain't got no name. He played another

603
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: couple of songs for me, then he played with how

604
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: We Roll? He played this and then so it's me

605
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: taking my relationships and connections with with my years in

606
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: this industry and putting it on another artist to become

607
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: what he becomes. And you've got artists that come up sixteen, seventeen,

608
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: eighteen years old. They don't know who to talk to,

609
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: they don't know who to be friends with, they don't

610
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: know none of this stuff, you know what I mean.

611
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: And I had little homies who didn't even want to

612
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: do songs with bloods and I'm like, nah, bro, you

613
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: gotta do the song. That's crazy. Yeah, now you I

614
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: mean you think back, just like certain artists that like

615
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 1: You're like, man, they didn't like, they didn't work together.

616
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: It was just because of some politics shits. Not even

617
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: necessarily they had any personal issues. It was just there

618
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: were some politics involved. But and so this documentary, even

619
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: when you go on to Dead you see your debt

620
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: deal with Frinch Montana, Nicki Mina's guccu chin. But what

621
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: does she have to do to get them to these

622
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: levels to get what did she have to go through

623
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 1: to be able to you know what I'm saying? Like

624
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 1: she had a history that that affirmed who she was

625
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: to other people. I have a history from the streets

626
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: that affirmed who I was, and people want to say

627
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: it's about bullying when it really isn't. It didn't have

628
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: shit to do with bully, and they had shit to

629
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: be people meeting me and then them saying, oh, he

630
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: ain't the bully people think he is. He ain't the

631
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: bully people making out. I've come to different people with

632
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: songs and they told me that that ain't gonna work.

633
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm out the door. Let me go find another one.

634
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: I've asked you all to do stuff, and if it

635
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: don't work, it don't work. I'm never beating the door down.

636
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: I've never beat you all door down. I'll do this,

637
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: but but if you hear it, that's my reputation, Like

638
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: he's the bully, He's this, he's that, and I'm like,

639
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: fuck it, I can't beat it, so I'm gonna join it.

640
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: Like I guess I am the bully. He talked about

641
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: signing Nipsey. I mean, obviously, aside from being from the

642
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: same area, how did you guys, like, how did that

643
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: end up? You know happening? And you told the story

644
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: a lot before, so just kind of give us a

645
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: quick you know, yeah, my nephew TD, I was looking

646
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: for artists. TD told me to go get nipped. I

647
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: wasn't seek Nipped out out of all the people he

648
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: had already I already been interviewing and talking to. And

649
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: he was the signing light. He was the diamond in

650
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: the pilor whatever. It was a diamond. Let me respect

651
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: to my other homies. He was a diamond in a

652
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: pile of other diamonds. But he just he just it

653
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: was a bigger diamond. He was, Yeah, he was. And

654
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: then he was the VVS VS. Yeah, you know what

655
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And we had made a couple of moves

656
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: and was trying to move through a couple of doors,

657
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: and I vastly found out that I couldn't go through

658
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: these doors. So I when I went and got Steve Lobel,

659
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: and I went and got Steve that Steve hit the music.

660
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: Steve felt the same way I felt about the music,

661
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: and I was like boom. So I signed Nitzy to

662
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: Unique Music, to my to Aria Miss Astrodome, to my

663
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: to my label, to Munique Music. And then Steve was

664
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: tempercent management and I was tempersent. Masic didn't make no

665
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: senseence to go get another manager, and so we started

666
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: pushing on that. So I signed him to. It was

667
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 1: signed to a ten year production contract which started in

668
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, which was Ian twenty nineteen. Crazy hello,

669
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: But I ain't tripping off of that because you know

670
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: it is what it is. But I do have that,

671
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Wait, so you're your deal

672
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: with Nipsey was ten years, ten years, a ten ten year,

673
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: twenty five percent of publisher to air miss Astronout. Oh

674
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: wow so O nine twenty nineteen nineteen. So technically Victory

675
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: lap hello, okay, wow wow yeah, help me okay, Because

676
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: when I first met nip was I met him in

677
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: O nine. Actually this was when he was on the

678
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: Lax Tour. We were on the Lax Tour with the

679
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 1: game and I think James, I sent you a song

680
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: before well I became You know who put me on

681
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: the nip is Charlemagne Man Charlemagne when he was doing

682
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: radio on Philly and he was tweeting about bullet Ain't

683
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: got no name Volume one. I believe I remember DM

684
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: and Charlemagne at the time, and that's who originally kind

685
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: of like I saw his show and I was seeing

686
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: his ship on the blogs like the now Rights and

687
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: two Dope Boys of the world. That was late. You

688
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: already met him before that. I met him in O nine. Yeah,

689
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: you had already met him before that because he we

690
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: didn't officially finished the deal assigning him to it, but

691
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 1: he had some ship out there, like on the online

692
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: he didn't. He didn't have nothing. Nothing. He didn't even

693
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: know how to he didn't even know how to upload

694
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: the music yet. You gotta remember, because what if I

695
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: met him, If I met him in O nine, so

696
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: that was the la nothing he had. He was on

697
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: tour with nothing out. No. He just trying to tell

698
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: you before we did the game tour. Yeah, we had

699
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: already been messing with nip O seven, right, but I

700
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: didn't meet him until they got tour. Yeah, because even

701
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: before the game tour, he had the song with with

702
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: the Tupac song. Okay, yeah, on what was the Pox Life?

703
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: He had Pox Life. I got Fairy to put that

704
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 1: on the radio. That song started picking up all around

705
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: the country and and Pox's mother had it pulled because

706
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: that wasn't the single they wanted to go. They had Nipsey.

707
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: They had Nipsey Pack and Light Skinny with the braids

708
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: from the East Side, Nocturnal No No, No, no, I

709
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: don't know Chill Beer man. I gotta call him Chill

710
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 1: Beer but anyway, he gonna do all the talk about.

711
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, that song went viral, but even before that,

712
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: we could just look it up actually, because yeah it

713
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: was it was Nipsey Tupac and I can't think his name.

714
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: He's central. He always got central, like Crenshaw on his

715
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: on his chest. I can't think his name. But anyway,

716
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 1: that song was out. And then even before that, before

717
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: we even did the tooth called seven International was the

718
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: name of the song. It was Young Dred the Truth,

719
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: Young dreda Truth. Now look at when that came out,

720
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: this was, well, this is on YouTube, so hold on,

721
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 1: let me look it up. Yeah, but you gotta remember

722
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: before that we did I did him with the song

723
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: with with Snoop oh six oh six. Yeah, and that

724
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: wasn't even the first song we did Snoops. I did

725
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: him with Snoop and Nip the Snoop Gangster Life. Yeah. See,

726
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: I didn't really start. I think the first project that

727
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: I really tapped in was Bulletain Got No Name, the

728
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: first one, and then like I really became a fan

729
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 1: of the second one. I think he had the roller

730
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: windows up. Shit was so hard. But that was later.

731
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: That was like twenty ten, I think, yeah, oh that

732
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: was late. Yeah, yeah, that was late. But I met

733
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: him in the old nine. He came on my show.

734
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: We did an interview, he freestyled and Steve was there,

735
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 1: and uh no, you met him before that. I don't remember.

736
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: Then we said you music on him before that when

737
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: he was in Arizona guy, because I was like, we

738
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: was like, you was popping I there. Yeah, I ain't

739
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: getting no, that's facts, but no, but I was. I

740
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: was gonna yo. So a ten year contract, that's crazy,

741
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: right when you think of it, right, I was back then,

742
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: but you yeah, but let me tell you like this,

743
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: it should never change. And this is the reason why.

744
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: Because it's one thing to be management, it is one

745
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: thing to be production. If I'm your production company, you

746
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: come to me as a kid and you have nothing,

747
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: and I create your name, and I create you and

748
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: help to create you, give you what you want. How

749
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: is there a number on how long I can make

750
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: money off of this? Right? Because if I don't do that,

751
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Then? How what are you

752
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: gonna do? Because you gotta remember before a nip came

753
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: to me. He had already him and his brother had

754
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: already had a deal where they had paid I can't

755
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 1: remember the do to distribute their music. He never did

756
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: it that came back. I do think that there's a

757
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: middle ground there because I always you'll notice artists will

758
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: pop and the people who who made it happen for

759
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: them sometimes get left behind. You know, Like that's what

760
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That happened with Cardi B. You know, there

761
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: was a guy named Shaft who really blue her make

762
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: the stallion exactly right. It's like, Yo, you signed the paperwork,

763
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: and what would have happened if these people didn't believe

764
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: in you? When they believed in you, you know what

765
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I only eat for so long and

766
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: then you go on to be forever. I put in

767
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: the grant work and now now that it's hot, I mean,

768
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's both ways. It's I mean, you know,

769
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: like and you'll say ten years, well, god damn it,

770
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: Like I'm only puposed to eat for ten years. But

771
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: guess when you make it? You really most people don't

772
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 1: make it to after five six years. Yeah, the first

773
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: the first four or five years is no money coming in.

774
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 1: It's all spending, it's all money going out exactly. Yeah,

775
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Remember how many people was

776
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: grinding before that, you know? And then so so example,

777
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: like just say, nephew, fncy fence it. When I first

778
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: god with Ni it was in the hood. He had

779
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: already been uh to drain them. You've already been to

780
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: different people here trying to go on he was. They

781
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: was knocking him down because his music was too violent.

782
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: He was a crip and uh uh he looked like Snoop.

783
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: So that was like, oh, it ain't gonna work. You

784
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: just wanna Snoop. And so when I come, I'm like, okay,

785
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take me and we re gonna recook this.

786
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. So now it's the same

787
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: way with everybody in this documentary. Everybody in the documentary

788
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: had the same exact thing cooking. Somebody being there, putting

789
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 1: their money behind them, putting their name behind them, saying

790
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: this is the one, and then boom. You know what

791
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying, be cause you don't just get to walk

792
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: through the door and say I'm here. Now I'm hearing that, right,

793
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? How many people really did

794
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: that Neil naz X Soldier boy, a couple of people.

795
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: The Internet is kind of changed. I think the Internet's

796
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: is the variable that's made made it possible for just

797
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 1: some ship to go viral. And now you can't even

798
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: do that now because now there's so many people paying

799
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: to get fired me you on YouTube and paying to

800
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: get this Spotify. Now you can't you can't pay. You

801
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: can't even tell it something is really organic. That's some

802
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: real shit, you know what I'm saying. So it's a

803
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: lot of it as optics. It's like, yo, for somebody,

804
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: get me serious. Let's you know, we got to make

805
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: sure the numbers on Spotify. I gotta have someone googles

806
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: my shit on Spotify. It's gotta be a certain number

807
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: of monthly listeners. And now they give you a kit. Okay,

808
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: if you pay fifteen hundred, you'll get one thousand view

809
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: for sure. You get this, you get that, you get this.

810
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 1: But what about me being able to say look, kid,

811
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: you do interviewing me, being able to say black? You

812
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: do interviewing me being able to say so sudden such

813
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: getting you know what I mean? But what's the value

814
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: on that? Oh? The value is don't only get to

815
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: ride for so long, No bro, I don't think that's

816
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: business me myself. So I kind of moved out of

817
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: that and when to doing I saw, like I said,

818
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: when I stopped doing NI, I started managing ving Rains,

819
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: I managed being Rains, and I started doing shows. So

820
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: it made me open up to dealing with more artists.

821
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: And I wasn't dealing with one artist no more. I

822
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 1: was doing shows. I was making more money doing shows

823
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: because I hadn't made not one down with it. Wow,

824
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I was. I was booking shows,

825
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: booking talent coming in, and I'm making fifteen twenty thousand

826
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: dollars when an artist range No Van, I was making

827
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: way more. Only you're talking about you were talking about

828
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: just booking concerts. Booking concerts like putting the bread behind

829
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 1: brings some people out, doing the promotion my own concerts,

830
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: getting numbers I might have. I might hireh at whiz like, whiz,

831
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: what's your number for booking? And then look, I'm gonna

832
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: put ten thousand on it, or what's your number for this?

833
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put five thousand on it, And he like, okay,

834
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: if you get my number up that high. And so

835
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: what people did never understand is I never cut an

836
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: artist number ever. I never cut an artist number for nothing.

837
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: Only for radio shows, because radios you do different. What's different.

838
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: Every artist I ever met and they ever did business

839
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 1: with me, they give me a number, and I'm tending

840
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: what their number is. I'm gonna get the deal higher

841
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: than that because I know the promoters who are gonna

842
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: really pay. And that's the relationship you want with Big U,

843
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna make sure you get paid your money.

844
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: When when when the Migos came, I had the Amigos

845
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: book for three shows at fifteen thousand apiece. Danny Glover

846
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: goes on the Grammys and they asked him what is

847
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: he listening to He says, I'm listening to them me

848
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: bad and Booze. Yep, it was over after that, and yep,

849
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: the number one from fifteen thousand to one hundred. Yeah,

850
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: I remember I was trying to book them at that time. Yeah,

851
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: I'm aware, but I was the only one who who

852
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 1: they was let booking them because I had a relationship

853
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: with him through Atlanta. From Atlanta, you know what I mean. So,

854
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: and that's what that's what that's what you know. We

855
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: do as power brokers in this in this industry. It

856
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: ain't it ain't violence, It ain't you know, it ain't

857
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: the bullshit. But I might know the promoter you don't

858
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: want to deal with. I might know the promoter who

859
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: ain't gonna pay you. I might know. Look, you don't

860
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: want to charge radio. You want to do this? No,

861
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: you don't want to take thirty of your homeboys to

862
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: this concert and backstage and y'all risk it and getting

863
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: into with somebody. A AG, you get into it. AG.

864
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: You can't play no concerts around here. You're fucked. That's

865
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: what we do. You know, your initial deal with Nipsey

866
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: was ten years and how sometimes artists You know, that

867
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 1: sounds crazy, but if you really think about the position

868
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: that some the early people who get in on artists

869
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: it'll put them in, it seems fair because, like you

870
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: were saying, the first four or five years, it really

871
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: ain't no money coming in, right, no money, it's all

872
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: your money going out. That's what the production company is. Facts.

873
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: So let me tell you the think about Nipsey. What

874
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: I like about Nipsey. It's not what we did to

875
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: help Nipsey to start Nipcy. It's what Nipsey continue to

876
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: do after we was gone. That's what separates Nipsey, you

877
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Because we was all negative for

878
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: a run, you know what I'm saying. But bro, he

879
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: kept going. You know what I mean. I left. I

880
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: went to go do it was nip and Steve. If

881
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: you see I had left. I didn't get fired. I

882
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: never got fired. I left after my house got hit

883
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: while they was on tour on the Las tour, and

884
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: I left music, and I talk about in the documentary.

885
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: So nobody fired me. I left my own self and

886
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: I started just doing football and managing ving Rains, So

887
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: I was making I was making. It was no money

888
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: on the music, but I started making down at two

889
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: hundred some thousand dollars year just managing ving Rains right

890
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: and just doing movies. And I was doing that, and

891
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: I started doing shows. I was dealing with every artist,

892
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: not just not just one artist, and so I was

893
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: successful doing that. And I continue up until the COVID

894
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: to make money booking shows and putting on concerts doing

895
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: so I do one concert a year for developing option

896
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: for the kids, and then all throughout the year I

897
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: do other concerts for myself. So I've always made money

898
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: and I made way more money than I ever did

899
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: dealing with one artist with respect to my kid. And

900
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: so that's what I've never had, not had a shortcoming.

901
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: All my cards are paid for, my house everything, you

902
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I done real well and

903
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: I've been doing well. I'm not dealing with one artist

904
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: until Nip called me after he signed with Atlantic and

905
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: he was like, uncle, signed with Atlantic, because that's right,

906
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: like we finna go. And his thing was like, we

907
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 1: got to do with Kendrick and Top did we gotta redo?

908
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: We gotta do it right, and he was asking me

909
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: to come back and manage it. I'm like, shid man,

910
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to get back into rogoging Moore, you

911
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He's like, nah, man, And I said,

912
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: so what's the situation. He's like, you still got the contract.

913
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: It ain't you gonna do what you want to do.

914
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: So I'm like, in your hands yeah yeah. So but

915
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 1: you know, we always had that love. Always supported him

916
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 1: in the hood, He always supported me in the hood.

917
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: And uh, even after we had the conflict. And so

918
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: when when he got ready to go to New York.

919
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: He bought me a ticket, well, he paid for me

920
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: a ticket to go to New York, and the ticket

921
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: was was me and Robin. The ticket was a problem

922
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: with that, so we ended up paying for ourselves. We

923
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: did the video in New York. We came back to

924
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: do some stuff out here and you can see him

925
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: all over the Victory Laugh were promoting it and but

926
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: we uh we uh. I was in the studio with

927
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: him for four days recording, just recording vocals talking about

928
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: him and I. He came about first time. He wanted

929
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: me to just tell them all the different stories and

930
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: stories in prison. So we did that and I got

931
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: when I posted up with me and he was in

932
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: the studio. We'd been there all night. And I did

933
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: all that right before Victory Lap because we was gonna

934
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 1: drop He's gonna drop Victy Lap. Then we was gonna

935
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: come right back with a mixtape on that, and so

936
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: you kind of narrated, Yeah, narrated the whole tape, like

937
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: just telling the hood stories and all that coming on.

938
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: And I really don't know where that is now. We

939
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: did at Paramount Studio. I ran into a kid who

940
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: did the recording for us, engineer. Yeah, engineer and what

941
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: happened to all that? Yeah, yeah, nicely they gaffed it

942
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: that the family and all I got it. So I

943
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: don't know what you know, they ever do it because

944
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: our relationships ain't what it is you're you mentioned the conflict.

945
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 1: There was obviously a widely known incident that had happened.

946
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: What was the when you guys did have your your

947
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: your outs before everything got reconciled. What was the root

948
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: of that? Well, when we first started, it goes back

949
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: to our recording equipment. I had a deal with Tiny Lister,

950
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: me Tiny Lister and a tiny list of friend he

951
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: was I can't out. I don't want to always so

952
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,479
Speaker 1: bad with names members name he We did a deal

953
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: that we were gonna sign nip and he purchased the

954
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: equipment for us, and we was at sun Set we

955
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: presise equipment, and that's where Nipsey was staying with me.

956
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: Sammy went to jail and Nimsey was staying in my

957
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: condo in Harthoron and we had the equipment set up

958
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: there we was recording. So this is their equipment that

959
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 1: Nipsey had recorded on and was recording on the whole time.

960
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: And so once we had went our different ways. I

961
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: wanted to use the equipment when I decided to come

962
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: back because his other kid. But where Nipsey had the

963
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: equipment was in the downtown studio and you could only

964
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: get there at night, or you couldn't go in after

965
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: ten o'clock or they were penalized. I'm like, bro, let's

966
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: just move it on forty third because I had a

967
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: place in forty third, and he was cool with that.

968
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: But then it was conflict in the hood between him

969
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: and Summer, the other little and I can't go into that.

970
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: I won't ever go into that. Of course I don't

971
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: know it, so you know what I mean, if you

972
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: and so then it kind of like went bad and

973
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: he made a disc song. I asked him about it,

974
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: came and checked him about it. We went to go

975
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: pick him up. He was one hundred hood with it.

976
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: Nip always did him one hundred hood for sure, for sure.

977
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: And then the conflict happened. It was some some rougher rooms,

978
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: rugging rules, you know what I'm saying, And we all

979
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: went to jail. And that night nip didn't go to jail,

980
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: just me and his brother and a couple of homes

981
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: went to jail. We got out that night, Nip called me.

982
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: I met Nip the next night. I met Nip and

983
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: Sam the next night at the African Restaurant on Fairfax

984
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: the very next night, like like after after what happened

985
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: he got out, Sam after bellout two days later or

986
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: something like that. We all met before that. We met.

987
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 1: We met that night at at on Fairfax, the African

988
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: Restaurant because it was used to go and it was

989
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: basically like that. It was it. So it was just yeah,

990
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: because I mean, that hit hike all hip hop, all

991
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: the different, which it was supposed to do, you know

992
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: what I mean, and he ran with him. You're like,

993
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm finna put some songs out. I'm man, go ahead, dude,

994
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: you're gonna do wow. Because if it was a conflict,

995
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: it would have never stopped there, right, you know what

996
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: I Like? The next day you guys win the eight. Yeah,

997
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: it couldn't have never been a continued conflict, right, How

998
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: could that we still here? It couldn't have never been

999
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: a continued conflict, or it would have been a continued conflict,

1000
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like he's he's he's my baby.

1001
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: He not even five generations under me. I'm I'm like

1002
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: the beginning, and Nip is a baby in our industry

1003
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: in where we're from, you know what I mean, Like

1004
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: he ain't even you know what I'm saying. Like he

1005
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: got to get in there as he got more popular

1006
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: in the world, but at that time, he still was

1007
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: a baby. Yo. I wanted to ask you because someone

1008
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: like Nip, like I feel like, is you mentioned earlier

1009
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: kind of the diamond in the rough, right? Not everybody

1010
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: has the state of mind that he had that, you know,

1011
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: the way that he did everything with purpose and intention?

1012
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: You know, like was he always liked that? Did you

1013
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: kind of know that about him from like the whole time?

1014
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: I really kind of think he got that from his family,

1015
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: Like his brother they they are real driven, Like they

1016
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: are real driven people, you know what I'm saying. Like

1017
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: they move with a purpose, right, I move with a purpose.

1018
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: It's very few people who move with a purpose. And

1019
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: he moved with a purpose, you know, And you can

1020
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: see it. You know how you go around somebody and

1021
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: you can see that this dude when it's time to

1022
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: feel he always here, you always got he always you

1023
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: can see that this is what he want to do.

1024
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: Nip didn't have no back door, he didn't have no no,

1025
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: no second plan. This was it, this music, this is

1026
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: what it was, and it was it. It wasn't I'm

1027
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: gonna be a lawyer or doctor if this don't work.

1028
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: This is it. Yo. He passed away, and then you

1029
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: had organized or help organized, like it was like a

1030
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 1: day of unity in your neighborhood that you know, I

1031
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: really wasn't aware of, like the historical context of it.

1032
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: Head had to break it down to me because because

1033
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not fully tapped in with all the

1034
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: politics and who's this and you know what I'm saying,

1035
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: and so he was kind of explaining to me, like

1036
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: the I the fact that these people and these people

1037
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: are together was so big, Like talk about that day

1038
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: and and and why that was such a big deal.

1039
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: Shouts out, shouts out the little home girl from the Jungles.

1040
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: You're bad with names, say that, so don't get bade anyway,

1041
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: ad skip the little home girl from the Jungles. She's

1042
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: a beautiful person. I can't say why, but anyway, they

1043
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: were the ones who orchestrated it. And even before we

1044
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: did the walk, we were already talking about, you know,

1045
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: ways to because I do gang divention to stop the

1046
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: violence amongst our people. So they wanted to do the

1047
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: walk and I was like, yeah, it's good idea to

1048
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: do it. But when they were calling people to come

1049
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: and saying it was cool, most of the people are saying, hell, no,

1050
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: we're not coming. Let's big. You say it's cool to come.

1051
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: And that's when I went on there and said everybody's

1052
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: welcome to come. I was hurting at that time, you

1053
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Later it was days later and

1054
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: I I was I was hurting, And it was crazy

1055
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: because my whole family was hurting. My kids was hurting

1056
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: because they know Nancy. They know Nipsey from coming to

1057
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: sleep at our house. He lived in our house one

1058
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: hundred and third and then when he got his check,

1059
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: that's when you know he He graduated from there, and

1060
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: he was like a brother. He was like a big

1061
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: brother to my daughter in my fourteen year old, and

1062
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: he was a big brother to my son my twenty

1063
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 1: one years in college. He posted him all the time.

1064
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: So it was crazy that it happened. But the Unity

1065
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: Walk was so necessary because he had reached such a

1066
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: different pinnacle in LA with all gangs that dudes from

1067
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: every set wanted to come pay respect, you know what

1068
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean, And we wanted to he wanted to facilitate that,

1069
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it was so beautiful, man,

1070
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: And I'm so glad that I was just a part

1071
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: of it and I was able to make that happen

1072
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: because that was great for la man. I was great

1073
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: for our souls, you know what I mean, to see

1074
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 1: some dudes we had been fighting with for years. Yeah,

1075
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: because like you know, like is it almost take an

1076
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 1: event like that to happen. I'm not specifically talking about

1077
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: Nip's death, but something of that magnitude to happen to

1078
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: kind of because you know, it's hard to tell someone

1079
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 1: to stop going to war with somebody if their uncle

1080
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: died or their brother died. It is because it was

1081
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: a lot of backlash on our side. It was backlash

1082
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: on our side of the gang side, you know, because

1083
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: dudes were still, like you said, will feel a certain way.

1084
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: So it was a call that was made and people

1085
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: came and they still had to go back and like, man,

1086
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: with these dudes, our enemies still, so you know, and

1087
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: with understanding that that people lost fathers, uncles, cousins, you know,

1088
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: you got to respect that. But that day showed that

1089
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: we could find a way out and that was our

1090
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: mission when we first started with Nipsey. How to take

1091
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: you back to that and the reason why a lot

1092
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: of gangs respected him is because we made sure. I

1093
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: made sure we didn't diss nobody. In the beginning of

1094
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: his music, I went through all the videos. What's all

1095
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: the videos, what's all the signs of the world? No

1096
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: blot that out, no signs dising them. I made sure

1097
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: my homies didn't put up noneing disrespect to nobody if

1098
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: you look at them videos. That was all me, you

1099
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And then of course nip grew

1100
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: into that because his first music was rolling sixties. What

1101
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: isn't name? We'll do Woo woo woo, and you know,

1102
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: and we clinked all that up, you know what I mean?

1103
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: And history, you know, it's all history now, man, Yo,

1104
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: Is it true that Debo from Friday was inspired by you?

1105
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: Was that character inspired by you? No? No, okay, let

1106
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: me tell you how that went. Okay, this is the honesty,

1107
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: god truth. You're gonna get this here. I managed Devo

1108
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: Okay rp R my big brother it managed Devo and

1109
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: I managed. It was one of the people I was

1110
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: managing and I managed for years. Right, So to keep

1111
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: me one hundred DEVO knew of big Uka and he

1112
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: knew of my reputation like everybody else did and knew

1113
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: of my reputation. But the character is written on when

1114
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: of Home, it's for twenty eleven. That has nothing to

1115
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: do with me. You know what I'm saying. Whatsoever, I

1116
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: ain't never been in the hunters iron, you know what

1117
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: I mean. I wrote a beach cruiser, but I ain't

1118
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: do that. I want to take it on he was

1119
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: riding around on the beach cruiser like yeah, we all,

1120
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I don't know you snatched the chains,

1121
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: like I wasn't snatching Well we did snatch here, but

1122
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: I mean I wasn't riding the neighborhoodsnts no chains. That

1123
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: was kind of like some other shit, but like Folkalore

1124
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: that Dad was like based on maybe deepo, like like

1125
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: knew of you and like maybe no, he knew of me,

1126
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: like like he knew of me. And but you gotta understand,

1127
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: my reputation goes back to like eighty to like eighty

1128
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: eighty one eighty two, right, because you're in jail when

1129
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: Friday comes out. Yeah, Friday came out ninety five. Yeah

1130
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: I was gone. Yeah I was gone. But my my,

1131
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: my name and reputation was still. He sees that, of course,

1132
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: of course, you know what I mean, it presees that.

1133
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: But there were a lot of big big me DeVos

1134
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: and whatever. Right now, Tiny, being the actor that he was,

1135
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,919
Speaker 1: could draw off a big U and that's what he meant.

1136
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: He meant that he drew from a big U to

1137
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: act that care that that character wasn't written after you,

1138
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: not at all, because no, I wasn't on no bike

1139
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: pushing up on no nigga. Yo. So you were one

1140
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: of the original Rolling sixties. What year? I'm not original

1141
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: Rolling sixties, you're not, okay, So give me, give me,

1142
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: give me kind of like a g which is Arlington Gang, right, Okay,

1143
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: So because I saw it, well, I saw it in

1144
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: the documentary, because I watched the first episode. You were

1145
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: like one of like the like like original ags. I'm original,

1146
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm off the second group of original ags. And then

1147
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: so how like, like how did you get us just

1148
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: the street in the sixties? Okay? So so it was

1149
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: just a kind of like an offshoot because you in

1150
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: the documentary you talk about how big the sixties is.

1151
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: It's the biggest section. And in all respect to my homies,

1152
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: the map was not drawn by me. That map is short.

1153
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: We go from Western to the Bread. It only showed

1154
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: from Arlington to the Bread. So the map on the

1155
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: show was a little part. Yes, totally inacurate. My hood

1156
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: go from Western to the waters. Damn there. So what

1157
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: year would would would you say you became quote unquote

1158
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,919
Speaker 1: rolling the sixties? Like what year was that? I don't

1159
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: have no tattoos. Oh that's fair. Yeah, what are we

1160
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: talking about? I mean, just to be honest, like I

1161
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: always say it like this, I never became rolling sixties.

1162
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: I think rolling seats became us. Well you said it, Uh,

1163
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: it's in you. It ain't on you. You, it ain't

1164
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: on you. And I've been saying that since the beginning

1165
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: of time. That's why I don't have no tattoos. So

1166
01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: I used to say that years ago, like we ain't

1167
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: gonna tattoos? Why I need them know who I am?

1168
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: That's real shit. It ain't it ain't it ain't. It

1169
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: ain't on you, it's in you. So when dudes used

1170
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: to get tattoos. I was like, shit it or you

1171
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: had to put it on you to know it was real.

1172
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I didn't need it. And that what's crazy

1173
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: too is you got you came out of jail with

1174
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: no tattoos. Tattoos. I'm gonna say it again. Yep. You

1175
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It ain't on you, Yep? Is

1176
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: it in you? You did? Was it true that you

1177
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: got like bad, like like when you had to go

1178
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: like move out of town and like you were in Chicago, Yeah,

1179
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: we got kicked out. You got kicked out of LA

1180
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: you got kicked out of Yeah, So what happened? Like

1181
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: how do you get kicked out of a city? Well?

1182
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: I said something in the documentary because I couldn't say

1183
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: what it really was, but I just said one part

1184
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: of what it was there was the robberies, but it

1185
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 1: was a lot more, you know what I mean. And

1186
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: so at that time, there was like either you can

1187
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: go to the army or you can go to whoop.

1188
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: And then it was like, nah, bro, I ain't doing

1189
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: an army. But I didn't have a choice in there.

1190
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: But they couldn't find me guilty of a lot of stuff.

1191
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: I was being accused of So they sent me to

1192
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: a little my father in Chicago. Okay, so I stayed

1193
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: up there until I turn eighteen and then I came back.

1194
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,959
Speaker 1: So you're because at the time, you're a minor. Begin

1195
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: So you're a minor, so they can kind of tell

1196
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: you like, yo, these are your options. You gotta go here,

1197
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: you gotta do this, you gotta do this. And that's

1198
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: what people don't understand that when you were born in

1199
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: the state and you get that birth certificate, you're actually

1200
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: the ward of the state. You don't actually belong to

1201
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: your parents until they actually go to court and file

1202
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: to get you on to become your guardian. That's so crazy. Yeah,

1203
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: you actually belonged to the state. So they got to

1204
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: tell you like, hey, these are your options. You can't

1205
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: be here no more. What's you go in front of

1206
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: You don't tell you we can sentence you here. That's

1207
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: how they able to sentence you in court. Damn. Yeah,

1208
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: how did you start to get involved in coaching, like

1209
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: in the football stuff? Because I feel like, for the

1210
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: people who have been paying attention to you the last decade,

1211
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: I feel like you're up, you know, since you been home.

1212
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: I feel like you've been a pair of the community,

1213
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: but specifically when it comes to coaching and being involved

1214
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: in the youth football. Alan Loan Man Alan Loan aka

1215
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: big As I was the first one I coached when

1216
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: I came home. His father and mother always had a

1217
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: football program. Okay, so they always did that. And then

1218
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: along with my homeboys, Big DF going on, who was

1219
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: coaching their sons while I was in prison, and then

1220
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: when I came home, they was doing it. So and

1221
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: my son, My sons were good athletes, really good athletes.

1222
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: Alls to hear about how good they were. So when

1223
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: I came home, I just wanted to get in there

1224
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: and sit back and kind of sitting them in the

1225
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: cutting and work with them. And I started developing well.

1226
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: I started Extra Finished Fellowship Network, which is the parent

1227
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: company of Developing Option before I actually came home. And

1228
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: that goes to my stepfather, who's Donal ray Evan, and

1229
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: he's always been conscious. He's always had me read books

1230
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. He's been really conscious. So when

1231
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: I made the change and I was making a change,

1232
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: he just kept reinforcing me with books and helping me,

1233
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: and he helped me start Extra Finish FELLASIP network while

1234
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: I was in prison. So then I changed the name

1235
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: to develop a Option because it was something people like it.

1236
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: So developing Option is not actually the nonprofit Extra FELLASIP

1237
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: Network is the nonprofit. We just do business as developing

1238
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: Option for stealing and security purposes. People I can steal

1239
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: and do things. So but then it took me into

1240
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: to want to do something for our community. Man. I

1241
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: wanted to get back. I wanted to to really be

1242
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: able to see these kids make it and not have

1243
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: to go through what I went through. Because I didn't

1244
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: have no father. I ain't really had nobody who was

1245
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: telling us like, don't do this, do that. You know,

1246
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: you can make it. I didn't have that, you know.

1247
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: It was like go hustle, get the grind. On the

1248
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: outside of the family was I ain't have nobody saying

1249
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: you can make it in school, I never had that. Yeah,

1250
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: and you've had like players that you've coached, like get

1251
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: drafted and all that, man, which is eight had eight

1252
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: nine that's made it to the league that I've coached.

1253
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: I have maybe about fifteen hundred through college, which is

1254
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: even that's even that might even be a bigger deal.

1255
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: Oh that is a big you know, fifteen hundred kids

1256
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: going to college. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I got my son.

1257
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: My son's my last coach. My last class of kids

1258
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: is in this documentary and it's eight of them and

1259
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Speaker 1: uh four graduate this year from college and then six

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Speaker 1: graduate next year from college. Wow. Talk about that. That's crazy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's mine. That's the work I got. That's the Crenshaw

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Speaker 1: Way and it all went to Crenshall High School lead

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Speaker 1: at Wow. Yeah. So my usually my program tastes kids

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Speaker 1: from my program, the Crenshaw Rams, Crenshaw coach and into

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Speaker 1: Crential High School and then from their college. And like

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Speaker 1: I said, that last group, I got U C l A,

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Speaker 1: Dixie State, US Navy, Reno, Nevada, Georgia, Miami and cut up. Yo,

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Speaker 1: how did you become you're a Vikings fan? Right? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got how but how the hell did you become

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Speaker 1: a Vikings fan? I got more money out of Minnesota

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Speaker 1: than I ever got any other state. Okay, okay, I

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Speaker 1: was like I would seeing that, I'm like, yo, how

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Speaker 1: did how did you become a Vikings fan? That's so

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01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: they didn't have no football team? Okay, who do you

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Speaker 1: go to? I went to the Soda all right, we

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01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: had no football, rams left, raiders coming going, and it

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Speaker 1: was like shit, I went purple and and to this day,

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01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: first property I ever bought in my name, not my name,

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Speaker 1: and I bought it a nothing, but first brought out there,

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Speaker 1: first thing I ever in. Like the Minnesota is important

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Speaker 1: to your story, it was important. I ain't never been

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Speaker 1: back either since they ran me out of there. That's crazy.

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01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 1: Wait wait why did you get ran out of Minnesota?

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Speaker 1: What happened? I ain't never been back since then? What

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Speaker 1: if that? What if like hypothetically speaking, the super bowls

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota and the Vikings happened to make it to

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl that same year like the Bucks just

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01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: did in Tampa. I might just drive at another stag.

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Speaker 1: You don't make you sure I need them? No, I

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01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 1: never been back. You mentioned you know reading some books.

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01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: What are what are like three or four books that

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01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:43,959
Speaker 1: I've changed your life? And Malcolm's autobiography Rich Dad, Poor Dad,

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01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 1: Visits for Black Men and the Brown and Friles by

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01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 1: Joey Browner. Okay, easy, how about this as like a

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01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: thirteen year old white kid, I read the autobiography of

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01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: Malcolm X. Crazy made me. I didn't even realize Malcolm

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01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: as a kid, like I didn't, you know, I learned

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01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: about Malcolm X from hip hop and shit, I didn't

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01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: realize he was on some gangster ship like Detroit rad

1300
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: was like that that motherfucker. You know, I didn't like

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01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 1: that movie. I didn't like the I like the concept

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01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: of the movie. I didn't see the movie. You didn't

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01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: see the movie just came you're you talking about the

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01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: one that came in on Amazon Prime, that The Night

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01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: of Miami one. I kind of feel like they made

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01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: my man two weak to undecisive in his life. How's

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01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: your relationship with Farakhun? What that's pops? I love kind

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01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 1: of death? What do you think is? I feel like

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01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: there's so many misconceptions about ain't no misconception. It ain't

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Speaker 1: no misconception. He has done. He has done nothing but

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01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 1: good for our people. It's no misconception. The only way

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01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: you can find something wrong with him is you looking

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01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: to find something wrong with him. And I won't even

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01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: let nobody say it's a misconception for somebody who was

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01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 1: all his life fought for our life, right Like, if

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01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: you can find something wrong with him, then you can

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01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 1: find something wrong with us as a people as black people.

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01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: You got a problem with black people because he's never

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01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: done nothing before for us, period. And when you were

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01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: you said, when you were locked up with like what

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01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: he was like you you would almost stay like frowned

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01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: upon the fact that you had a relationship with him. Yeah. No,

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01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: they was trying to they sentenced me. That was one

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01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: of the sentences, one of my my aggravating, aggravating circumstances,

1325
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: that I had a relationship, that I had a relationship

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Speaker 1: with him. That's fucking crazy. Yeah, it was in my

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01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 1: transfers too. That's why you know, I think though, even

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Speaker 1: like my situation right now, because as this documentary go,

1329
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: I still hear where the fairs is going to ask

1330
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: people like what can you give us on Big U?

1331
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: Like what do you know about big U? What is this?

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01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: And in light of the the in light of what's

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01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: going on in the capitol and then rushing the capitol.

1334
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: It's crazy that I still get calls from people just's

1335
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: in prison and saying that they come in and asked

1336
01:09:58,439 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: him what can you what can you give us on

1337
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 1: Big You? Like I've been home seventeen sixteen years. I

1338
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,799
Speaker 1: do gang intervention and I have to have a relationship

1339
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 1: with gang members to do gang intervention to help your community.

1340
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: If I don't have a relationship with gang members, how

1341
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: can I call a thousand gang members to be able

1342
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: to come to this nipsey thing? You know what I'm saying.

1343
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 1: But I am still being pursued to this day right now.

1344
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: I got a call not too long ago tell some

1345
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: of my partners saying that they was asking what can

1346
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 1: they give them? What we can help you? Like, how

1347
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: are you looking for something? Like I thought the fact

1348
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 1: that crime was let's catch him doing what he's doing

1349
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: and not going back looking for some thirty forty years

1350
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: ago because they trying to do a reco from my

1351
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: understanding on the hood. So I gotta be scared to

1352
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 1: say if I'm even affiliated with the hood. Wow, you

1353
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying, Like, we gotta be careful on

1354
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: what you say now, but this is what you're looking for,

1355
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: like and you see them doing this stuff. But it

1356
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: goes back to what Malcolm and Martin was talking about.

1357
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: They killed all of our black leaders? Are they sinuses

1358
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: in some kind of way? Why if they feel like

1359
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: you got a big voice. So I guess there's a

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01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 1: time period on how long big U last, there's something

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01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 1: to come up? Would you ever become a part of

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01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: the political process. I'm a part of the political process.

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01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean as far as like being, you know, running

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01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: for any sort of official I wouldn't run for no office,

1365
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: but I'm running for office right now, like just being

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01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 1: a voice for our people, just a level of voice.

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01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 1: And like they said, like Jiego Hoover said, the the

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01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: fear of the white man is the intelligence of a

1369
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: black man. That shit real, like it's real. And I'm

1370
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 1: not capping at you, no, no, no no, listen broadly what

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01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 1: was really going on right now today? There's one hundred

1372
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 1: per Like you said, Yo, what happened the Capital Ship

1373
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: was to me the biggest like example of like all

1374
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 1: of their energy shit to be on these on these

1375
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: white boys. How you find where they at? How you

1376
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 1: still pursuing black men who ain't got no power in

1377
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: this country literally infiltrated and can't do nothing, Like even

1378
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: if we wanted to, if you organize every black man

1379
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 1: in this country, we couldn't do shit. I mean, just

1380
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 1: to be honest, we can't take a shit. We ain't

1381
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: gonna move on nothing. We ain't the problem in America.

1382
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 1: When do they figure that shit out? We not the problem.

1383
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: I don't disagree, man, I do not disagree. It's been

1384
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 1: it's been a crazy Uh, I've been a crazy last

1385
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 1: four years. A lot of motherfuckers have been embolded, you

1386
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If anything, at least it made

1387
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: people like I think Trump being president, people actually like

1388
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 1: were at least brave enough to show you who they were, right,

1389
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But just to be on

1390
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 1: another note on the Trump note, Uh, it's some dumb

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01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: white people, oh for sure, like for real though, bro like,

1392
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 1: and I don't want to disrespect nobody, but don't I

1393
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 1: used to think, you know, coming up, it's a white world,

1394
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 1: white police, white school officers, I mean, white teachers, white police,

1395
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 1: white judges, white Superman, white wonder woman, white every this

1396
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 1: this the word I grew up here or nothing black

1397
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,600
Speaker 1: on TV but Sammy Davis Junior, and he claimed to

1398
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 1: be a jew, So we ain't have ship but black

1399
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,759
Speaker 1: and films that came out and they was all taking cocaine,

1400
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: shooting to some kind of jewels and gangster shit, you

1401
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you get to think that,

1402
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: But when Trump came. Trump unveiled a whole different people.

1403
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: Now they've always been there called white trash. I mean,

1404
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 1: god damn, I ain't gonna call him trash. I will,

1405
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna just say, I'm gonna just say there's

1406
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: white trash. The intelligence level is far different than I thought. Like, listen, man,

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01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 1: there's a whole middle part of the America where these

1408
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 1: motherfuckers are real just they're just they're they're like truly

1409
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: brainwashed people. Right. I was like, it's crazy, it's crazy.

1410
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 1: And then I like Trump for a different reason. What

1411
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 1: was your reason for? He was a hustler and and

1412
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: and watch this when I was gone, Trump was the

1413
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: hip hop being for sure. Oh no, he was doing

1414
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 1: like skits on mathematic albums and all kinds of shit. Yeah,

1415
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 1: everything it was about. I read Trump, But bro, he

1416
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 1: was here and he's also a life, lifelong democrat, his whole,

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01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: his whole entire life. And then he flipped the script.

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01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: You know, why get the bag because he knew how

1419
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 1: stupid people were, these white people were. He's like, I

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01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 1: know exactly how to get these fools. I'm gonna just

1421
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: shoot up this fear right into their arm. Talk about

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01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 1: every other race. And and I mean it worked for

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01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 1: I mean, the jig is up obviously, but he got

1424
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 1: him elected, dude to the highest office. Dude flipped the

1425
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: whole script. How you go from on yachts and snoop

1426
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: and and my man was a cold business man and

1427
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 1: he just dived in on the other ship. Oh man, definitely.

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01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not even sure as a businessman he's

1429
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: as cold as we I think that might be a

1430
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 1: little bit inflated as well. Now, well, see the thing

1431
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: about it is Trump didn't do business to do business.

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01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 1: Trump did. Trump did business to get some money. When

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01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 1: you when you're building a business, you like me, and

1434
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: you you ground as your baby. You you hustling at

1435
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 1: it every single day. Trump did corporation. I try to

1436
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:05,600
Speaker 1: write his book. Trump established corporations to make two three,

1437
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,560
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty million, and then debunk the corporations

1438
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: once you get everybody in the investment. Oh yeah, I

1439
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. So he went in it for

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01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: good business. He was in it for money. He was

1441
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: in to get the brig that's fair, you know what

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01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: I mean. He wasn't in it to make r His

1443
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 1: studios become like the biggest studio in the world. How

1444
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: the building built out of it? Good? We'll move on

1445
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 1: right now. I'm getting this back. Can you tell obviously

1446
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 1: you know we always bs who's here in the building,

1447
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: but talk about just before we wrap up, man, like

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01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 1: what you have going on? Obviously, I gotta I got

1449
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,440
Speaker 1: a talk show coming out like this from a podcast

1450
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 1: called Checking. Oh yes, sir, I like that perfect name.

1451
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 1: God check it in with big Y you did. So

1452
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a podcast on the way podcast. It's

1453
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: Kevin right now. We're doing it right now, and I

1454
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 1: got as So now I'm doing distribution so unique as

1455
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 1: determinment is. And now we're a distribution company like Empire

1456
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 1: Distro Kids, So kids can go upload their music and

1457
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 1: they're not signing to us, they're just going through us

1458
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: as a platform to get the music. They're helping them

1459
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 1: get their music from music out. Yeah, and then if

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01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 1: somebody blows we gonna definitely want to reach out to you,

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01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: you know together, but it's it's you'll be able to

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01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 1: sign up online. We're gonna start promoting and pushing that.

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01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: And William just looking at it like that, just doing

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01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: distribution and that's no contract. That's just you can go

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01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,480
Speaker 1: in you only you only have to do a contract.

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01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: As far as the music you're uploading. Make sure you

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01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: ain't stole. Nobody's beating right right, Yeah, nobody's signing to

1468
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 1: us unless they choose to or we listen to your music.

1469
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 1: But they'll be able to upload their music and put

1470
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 1: their videos up and the music as goes from there

1471
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: and they'll be able to download it get paid. I

1472
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 1: think I pay us like in three days off whatever

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01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 1: they make wow fast. Yeah, we're not doing We're not

1474
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: doing no fifty fifty. It's majority of money goes to them.

1475
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 1: And again, nobody signing us. It's gonna be able to

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01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 1: load their music, get it out and working what how

1477
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: how like I think with I mean, obviously I'm sure

1478
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: there's already been some interest, but with this show coming out,

1479
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of interest for

1480
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 1: like the rights to your story, doing a movie like

1481
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 1: I said, where an actor plays you. Has there been

1482
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 1: any sort of discussion for some ship like that. Yeah,

1483
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 1: I had a deal actually on the table man with

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01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: Van Rain's about five years ago. Was he gonna be

1485
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: was he gonna be the one to play it. Yeah,

1486
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: well he was supposed to play me then and uh

1487
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 1: him and Tiny was lobby. You know who's gonna do it?

1488
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 1: So it's crazy you but uh we just never pulled

1489
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 1: the trigger. Uh my boss. My wife was just satisfied

1490
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: with I like how you called your wife your boss too,

1491
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: because I feel you my boss. She my boss too. Man.

1492
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: She was like, uh no, she's Likena like it. She

1493
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:58,799
Speaker 1: didn't like the script because in the script and the script,

1494
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 1: I had to be like the protagonist. They wanted me

1495
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 1: to be mean towards her and they wanted to be

1496
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: She was like, you ain't never hit me. And I'm like, babe,

1497
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: but it's just it's just for like the movie. And

1498
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 1: she like, I ain't scared of you. Why I gotta

1499
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: be scared. I'm like, don't worry about it. It's like

1500
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 1: because then how they fuck you up? She like like

1501
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 1: she like and and so you know the lady who

1502
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 1: wrote it. She was like, no, we gotta want to

1503
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 1: make him be like you know, and then he had

1504
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 1: because it shows the evolution. She like, what make him

1505
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: be mean to somebody else? And I'm like, look, b

1506
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 1: is they telling the story? Yeah? You know what I mean?

1507
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 1: She was. She was like, hell, no, did you are you?

1508
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 1: Are you a fan of Have you? Have you checked

1509
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 1: out the show Snowfall on FX? Yeah? I watched it. Yeah,

1510
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 1: I say't watch all of it. I mean, I'm dimmed

1511
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 1: in it because people always tell me about what you're

1512
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: about to say. Yeah, I just didn't like. I was

1513
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 1: just curious to see if, like, how how accurate you

1514
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 1: thought they kind of depicted that era. I don't know.

1515
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: I didn't even look at it to see if it

1516
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:01,799
Speaker 1: was accurate because it's a good ass show and everyone

1517
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 1: says that it's loosely based on Freeway Ricky Ross, but

1518
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 1: I'm not that. I felt like it was based off

1519
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 1: of Boat Benning. Okay, I don't know from what I seen,

1520
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: because from when I heard about the story, he got

1521
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 1: on in the valley, that's how Bo got on in

1522
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 1: the valley. Yeah, he got on in the valley. Yeah,

1523
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 1: and it came me up Freeway got on. I don't know.

1524
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: I think he was always in the hood because you know,

1525
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: we all, we all know each other, we are good friends.

1526
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: So when I heard it was a valley story and

1527
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: I've seen some of it, I'm like, that's Bo. Bo

1528
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 1: went to school in the boat. Bow lived in on

1529
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 1: Florence and he went to school in the valley and

1530
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 1: kind of got on And I don't never know Freeway

1531
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 1: because I thought Freeway kind of moved out here when

1532
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 1: he was kind of like sixteen to seventeen and he

1533
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 1: didn't do no more, he didn't do no schooling. This

1534
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,799
Speaker 1: kid was kind of the in the Snowfall is supposed

1535
01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 1: to be kind of smart, right, Yeah, a smart kid

1536
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. Yeah, it's a great show. I just

1537
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 1: didn't know because I know that was kind of your era,

1538
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 1: so I didn't know that was my That's definitely my air, definitely. Yeah,

1539
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 1: it's definitely my air. Yes, it's check that ship out.

1540
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 1: But you gotta like really watch, like you can't just

1541
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 1: get in and out of it. You gotta like bang

1542
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 1: out all the seasons. I'm now I'm gonna watch the

1543
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: whole season because we're all on FX. Yeah, Hip Hop

1544
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:26,759
Speaker 1: Uncovered on FX And it's a two episodes dropping every Friday,

1545
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,640
Speaker 1: right every Friday, every Friday, total of six so the

1546
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 1: next three Fridays and then if you got the FX app,

1547
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 1: go get that. Yeah, go get the FX. No, go

1548
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 1: get the Hulu appeah, because it's streaming. It's on Hulu. Yeah,

1549
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 1: it's streaming on Hulu, but it's it's airing ONX Listen.

1550
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 1: I know you got the calls running man listen. I

1551
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,520
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming through and thank you for the discussion.

1552
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 1: Man and and RS Studios. You already know looking you know,

1553
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, you know, he happens to be fond

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01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 1: of those initials. Big you, Thank you, Bro,