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Speaker 1: iHeart app. Is this gas going press comfort? Still scheduled,

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Speaker 1: Still waiting, still waiting on it.

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Speaker 2: Except these things don't start on time. Yeah. La County

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Speaker 2: District Attorney George Cascone Kermit, the DA is going to

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Speaker 2: come out and talk about the case against a twenty

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Speaker 2: two year old by the name of Fraser Michael Bohm.

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Speaker 2: He is, of course, the man behind the wheel of

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Speaker 2: the BINGMW they hit the four young women in Maliblon

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Speaker 2: last week. It was a week ago yesterday. He crashed

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Speaker 2: four died shortly thereafter. They scheduled a news conference for

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Speaker 2: one o'clock because last night, after he was released, they

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Speaker 2: And then last night Los Angeles County Deputies did arrest him.

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Speaker 2: His bill has been set at eight million dollars four

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Speaker 2: counts of murder. They said last night that it's expected

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Speaker 2: to be four counts of second degree murder with fifteen

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Speaker 2: years to life as a sentence for each count. Now

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Speaker 2: we'll see if that's what Gascon announces. That's right, this

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Speaker 2: is what the right. The Sheriff's department turned over their

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Speaker 2: case and they're recommended charges. It's up to the District

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Speaker 1: But he's holding a press conference, so I suspect he

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Speaker 1: wants to make a big splash. He's running for reelection.

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Speaker 1: It's a little over four months to the primary and

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Speaker 1: he's got nine challengers. His approval rating is down to

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Speaker 1: twenty five percent, and he only has fourteen percent of

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Speaker 1: needs high profile cases to look like a tough guy.

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Speaker 2: And let's see if he's going to do in this

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Speaker 2: situation here. Yeah, this twenty two year old says there

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Speaker 2: was highly regarded but clearly at age twenty two, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, ran into some trouble. I've looked up.

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Speaker 1: I can't find any trace of him playing baseball or

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Speaker 1: A divorce happened with his parents at about that time

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean they spent the week, you know, collecting

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Speaker 1: the past, and she said, you know, there has to

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Speaker 2: That's what we're hoping that we're going to get out

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Speaker 2: We have talked to him before, and of course he

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Speaker 3: The District Attorney will be announced regulated to a traffic

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Speaker 3: collision that occurred on the Pacific Coast Highway. Joining the

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Speaker 3: DA today. We have from the Sheriff's Department, Chief Dennis Near,

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Speaker 3: Sergeant Aerons. The DA will deliver some brief remarks. He's

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Speaker 3: Victim Services. After the District Attorney delivers his remarks will

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Speaker 3: be available for questions.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Joseph.

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Speaker 4: You know, first of all, I want to I want

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Speaker 4: to thank the sheriff Department for the very quick and

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Speaker 4: Then we get it right, and we get it right immediately,

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Speaker 4: and you don't have to tell you that. Before I

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Speaker 4: We're seeing people driving at speed that, quite frankly, we're

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Speaker 4: about two weeks ago we lost two members of our family,

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Speaker 2: For those reasons.

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Speaker 4: Were here today to announce that we're charging Fraser Michael

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Speaker 4: die at the scene. The investigation revealed that the defendant

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Speaker 4: imply malice murder in this case. I can't say this enough.

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Speaker 4: We have to realize that when we're driving a card,

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Speaker 4: severe consequences. But I also recognize that what we do

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Speaker 2: You must.

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Speaker 4: All the rules of the road, and you must understand

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Speaker 4: We're heading into the holiday season, and I know that people.

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Speaker 2: Begin to go out more at night.

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Speaker 2: It has.

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Speaker 4: Improve I don't know altering.

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Speaker 2: Generate his entire opening in Spanish, he said a few

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Speaker 2: words l A County District Attorney George Gascon, I would

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Speaker 2: I want to come back. Well, can keep trying to

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Speaker 2: follow orders. About this, of course, is the US conference.

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Speaker 2: It's being held along with La County Sheriff's officials about

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Speaker 2: students a week ago yesterday. Fraser Michael Boehm, twenty two,

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Speaker 2: has been charged with four counts of murder. Originally he

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Speaker 2: was a restaurant suspicion of gross vehicular manslaughter. One thing

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Speaker 1: And Gascon said Boem admitted that Boem knew his actions

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Speaker 1: that leads you to four second degree murder charges. He's

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I remember going I was eighteen. It was

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Speaker 4: Questions are anyone may have non so?

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Speaker 2: Were there any passengers in the BMW with mister Baum?

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Speaker 3: Are they cooperating with the prosecution and are they saying

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Speaker 4: I don't believe there were any passengers, but perhaps we

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Speaker 6: Question, Oh, yes, there were, there were no pastors in

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Speaker 5: Attack to college and we'll see the influence of alcohol substance.

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Speaker 5: And also we have heard that it was another involved

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Speaker 6: So I can't comment on much of that. All that

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Speaker 6: that information. As far as another vehicle that's involved, we

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Speaker 5: There is one defensive plan.

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Speaker 2: There was a defensive plan.

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Speaker 7: There was a road rage in dunes that kind of

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Speaker 2: Is there any evidence is that right?

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Speaker 6: I have no evidence of that. Again, if you have

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Speaker 4: One not a time. Plise said, let's start about knowin.

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Speaker 5: Say, what kind of evidence that plane?

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Speaker 6: I can't comment on that, unfortunately at this time the

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Speaker 5: If you have any sorts of any time we'll see

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Speaker 6: Again, I can't comment on any of that information right now.

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Speaker 6: The investigations still. I believe he's a resident Malay. Yes,

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Speaker 4: Commenting I'm sorry, Well, you know again, this is very

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Speaker 4: ongoing investigation. There may be additional information that comes from Lucky.

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Speaker 4: We are charging the case today based on the information

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Speaker 4: four counds of vehicle or manslaughter. So the sentencing could

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Speaker 2: Would yours have a choice between murder and manslaughter? This

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Speaker 4: They can do both or n or none.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, what do other people injured?

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Speaker 4: I believe it's just a student's correct.

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Speaker 8: Okay, good, alright?

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Speaker 7: Yes, Michael Crowd, who's representing the family, UH, say that

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Speaker 7: that evidence that there was another driver what they allege

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Speaker 3: Are you.

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Speaker 5: But is that.

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Speaker 4: Luck we we have not been contacted at this point.

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Speaker 4: We look forward to any of this some information it

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Speaker 4: this is an ongoing investigation.

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Speaker 5: UH.

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Speaker 4: If there are other witnesses, other information, we will look

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Speaker 4: But as it stands today, we have the information that

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Speaker 2: So we will even out.

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Speaker 7: That your office has not been contacted by mister Crowd

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Speaker 5: At this point, you can provided.

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Speaker 3: So if if the defense attorney has reached out to

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Speaker 3: no evidence that's been presented to us to reflect what

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Speaker 3: The Sheriff's Department also encourages any witnesses to come forward

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Speaker 8: So just to give a timeline, the arrests werenant had

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Speaker 8: But he did not provide any He did not he's

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Speaker 4: He's a legend that there was some other intervening causes,

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Speaker 5: He didn't provide in that car or witnesses.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't believe that is the case. And you

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Speaker 2: Four million.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I believe that is the case. Yes, yes, you

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Speaker 7: What was it that made it could rather than.

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Speaker 2: All right. That is La County District Attorney George Guests

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Speaker 1: And the first thing that a lawyer does is throw

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at the Daily Mail, oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: Some incident that started near Duke's restaurant. Oh is is

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Speaker 2: and you saw the response basically was we know nothing

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Speaker 2: of this, but you know as he contacted you and

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Speaker 2: they don't think he had a recovery.

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Speaker 1: You get it into the news conference, but g entered

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Speaker 1: all the evidence after the arrest war.

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Speaker 2: Was issued. All right, we'll be back with more. Johnny

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Speaker 2: KENKFI AM six forty Live everywhere iHeartRadio app. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to John and Ken on demand from KFI AM six forty.

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Speaker 1: Run the radio from one till four and after four

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Speaker 1: o'clock on the iHeart app John and Ken on Demand.

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Speaker 4: Just one.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking through the sequence of events. In the

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Speaker 1: last half hour. We ran a press conference by George Gascon.

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Speaker 1: There's four murder charges against Fraser Boehm. He's the kid

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Speaker 1: who drove one hundred and four miles an hour on

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Speaker 1: pch and killed the four girls standing on the side

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Speaker 1: of the road. What's interesting Gascone opened the press conference

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Speaker 1: because I made a note of it, and he said

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Speaker 1: that that the bomb admitted he knew his actions were dangerous.

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Speaker 1: So he was talking to police and investigators right away,

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Speaker 1: and they asked him, presumably, did you know your actions

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Speaker 1: were dangerous. Well in that moment, would he say I

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Speaker 1: was being chased by a crazy guy and that's why

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Speaker 1: I was speeding and the crazy guy hit me.

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Speaker 2: Did he not say that?

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Speaker 1: How come the attorney springs this a few minutes before

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Speaker 1: the press conference. Why didn't Boem tell the cops immediately, like,

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Speaker 1: go get this other guy. He's driving a black sports car,

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Speaker 1: he's headed north, he's chasing me, and he he.

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Speaker 2: Because it may not be real, he's yeah, right exactly,

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Speaker 2: he spun me into the girls. If that didn't happening

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Speaker 2: this as they sit down with Bowman and say, look,

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Speaker 2: can you tell us anything anything right?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 2: We might be able to latch onto here. Wouldn't you

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Speaker 2: do that? If I did that?

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Speaker 1: If I just ran over four people, but I had

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Speaker 1: gotten hit at the last moment, sideswiped by some guy

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Speaker 1: who'd been chasing me for mile, the first thing I

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Speaker 1: would say is I got hit. I got spun or

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Speaker 1: pushed into the girls. The guy is still on the

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Speaker 1: guy you want is still on the road. So I'm

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Speaker 1: really really suspicious of this late breaking news from the

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Speaker 1: defense attorney Michael Krowd.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe he said it a few days ago, and

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Speaker 2: the reporter is the only one that knew it because

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Speaker 2: she's the one that brought it up. I don't know

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Speaker 2: where it came from. I wasn't any stories to this effect.

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Speaker 2: But then then the charges would be different. No, maybe

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Speaker 2: they decided that they don't believe it and couldn't find

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Speaker 2: any evidence supporting that claim, so well going forward with

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Speaker 2: their case. Right, just a lawyer saying something she said,

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Speaker 2: don't know, I know, very b but it wouldn't say, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're right. His attorney says that he's being let's just

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Speaker 2: knock the charges down.

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Speaker 1: But if Boehm had said it at the time, the

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Speaker 1: police would have had a week now to investigate the

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Speaker 1: validity of it.

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Speaker 2: And maybe he did and maybe there was nothing to it,

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Speaker 2: but the defense attorney believes or something to it. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. When they were asked at the news conference,

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Speaker 2: they kind of acted like this came out of left feet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because maybe he did. The car either was there

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Speaker 1: or not, and everybody would have seen the car hit

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Speaker 1: bone boone would be able to give a detailed description

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Speaker 1: of what happened. Let's say they had some kind of

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Speaker 1: road rate incident that started at Dukes right, then there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of detail. If you're being chased for a

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Speaker 1: distance by a car and you think you're fighting for

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Speaker 1: your own life, that's a long detailed story you'd tell,

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Speaker 1: and the cops would jump on that immediately because they've

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Speaker 1: got another bad guy they've got to take care of.

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Speaker 1: So I'm extremely skeptical until prove it otherwise. We will

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Speaker 1: be talking next hour more about this case.

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Speaker 2: In particularly though we'll be talking about Pacific Coast Highway

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Speaker 2: and Malibu and again a long history of deadly crashes,

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Speaker 2: this is nothing new. We'll be talking to the father

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Speaker 2: of a young girl who was mowed down back in

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Speaker 2: twenty ten by a guy who pretty much aimed his

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Speaker 2: car at her. He's been a guest in our show before.

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Speaker 2: He'll join us at two five. And of course, we

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Speaker 2: learned that the Malibu City Council met the other night,

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Speaker 2: and one of the residents who's been on our show

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Speaker 2: a couple of days in a row, said he was

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Speaker 2: very disappointed that Caltrans did not show up to make

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Speaker 2: the cases to what they've done to make that stretch

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Speaker 2: any safer and to deter people from speeding. That you

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Speaker 2: think that they would show up to be a part

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Speaker 2: of that discussion, but maybe at a future council meeting.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting today this obviously became the topic

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Speaker 1: on the next door app right among the Malibu residents,

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Speaker 1: and there is a lot of pushback over the idea

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Speaker 1: of slowing pch down because people started talking about speed

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Speaker 1: bumps and people are going, no, no, no, wait a second,

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Speaker 1: you can't have speed bumps. You know, that's damaging to

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Speaker 1: the car as an example, and you could see already

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Speaker 1: a counter a pushback developing where people, you know, pH

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Speaker 1: can also be really slow, it can be really fast,

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Speaker 1: but during drive times and weekends, it can be really slow,

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Speaker 1: and people don't want it made even slower and slower,

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Speaker 1: and they don't want to drive over bumps and humps,

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Speaker 1: and they think that the real problem is is you

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Speaker 1: have a handful of out of control people and there's

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Speaker 1: no amount of legislation and there's no amount of road

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Speaker 1: redesign that's ever going to change these crazy people and

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Speaker 1: make them into safe drivers.

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Speaker 2: What if they put like more lights in so that

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Speaker 2: you know, that's what they'd love to do. Is just

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Speaker 2: what they do where I live, is they they they're

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Speaker 2: out of sinc the lights. So you go from a

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Speaker 2: green to a red, to a green to a red,

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Speaker 2: because they don't want you to go from green to

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Speaker 2: green to green and just start gaining speed. They do

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Speaker 2: that on purpose. They put them out of sink, so

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Speaker 2: you can't suddenly hit the gas pedal and speed right

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Speaker 2: down the street at sixty miles an hour. Burban forty zone. Yeah, Burbank,

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Speaker 2: it's not on purpose, right, Try I slow you down.

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Speaker 2: They particularly do, I notice where I live in the

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Speaker 2: early morning hours, all right, that because they know the

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Speaker 2: road's far more emptier and you're likely, you know, to

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Speaker 2: go down that stretch shit like eighty miles an hour

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Speaker 2: if you can, and they make sure the lights are

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Speaker 2: changing red as you come upon each one. It's frustrating,

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Speaker 2: but that's one of the little tricks that they pull.

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Speaker 1: And they have sensors, so they turn it red as

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Speaker 1: you're approaching, you stop, and then boom, it turns green

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Speaker 1: right away. Because the purpose it's not time for twenty

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Speaker 1: or thirty seconds to be read. It's time to make

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Speaker 1: you stop and then they'll let you go again. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So to try to slow you down from speeding all

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Speaker 1: the way through, all right. So we'll be talking more

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Speaker 1: about this after two o'clock.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back. Johnny Ken KFI AM six forty

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Speaker 2: this afternoon is over the fact that the US House

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Speaker 2: of Representatives finally has a new speaker. His name is

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Speaker 2: Mike Johnson. He was he was the barber. Oh is

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Speaker 2: that what happened? Yeah, he's the official down to voting

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Speaker 2: for the barber. He was the official congressional barber. I

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Speaker 2: seriously wondered last night they were going to go through

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Speaker 2: every Republican as the nominee that they could in Congress

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Speaker 2: right to finally find one that gets enough votes. I

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Speaker 2: never heard of this guy, Well, he's only been in

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Speaker 2: Congress since twenty sixteen, that's when he won election. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I've been around that long. He's an attorney with a

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Speaker 2: focus on social conservative issues. But he did pop up

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Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty election. He put forth the theory

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Speaker 2: not so much that it was all about fraud is

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Speaker 2: why Trump lost, but because states changed the rules because

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Speaker 2: of COVID about voting and it was unconstitutional. I guess

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Speaker 2: on that it's mail in ballots. I don't know, but yes,

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Speaker 2: that was the argument he was trying to make.

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Speaker 8: That.

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Speaker 2: You got some attention at the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Trump got killed by mail in ballots. So they

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Speaker 1: started creating an argument that you can't switch to mail

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Speaker 1: in ballots based on I don't know the timeframe of

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Speaker 1: the decision or because some of this was emergency legislation

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Speaker 1: that passed because of the overreaction to COVID.

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Speaker 2: I don't understood. It is like, just because there's COVID,

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Speaker 2: you can't vote in person.

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Speaker 1: But but.

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Speaker 2: Well, some people wouldn't leave their house. I guess, don't vote. No,

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Speaker 2: they're disenfranchised. You can't deny the right people with the

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Speaker 2: disease shouldn't. Oh, I say, we just vote online. Someday

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Speaker 2: some of it gets hacked. Yeah, Oh, that'll come. That'll

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Speaker 2: be the real disaster. The other bit of drama related

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Speaker 2: to this was in New York City where apparently this

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Speaker 2: afternoon Trump was in court. This is that fraud case,

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Speaker 2: and it looks like he and his lawyers and you

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Speaker 2: do this every now and then you go into court

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Speaker 2: and you say to the judge to throw the case out.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing here. Of course, motions are dismissal. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: the judge in this case denied that, and then he

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Speaker 2: we find Trump for violating the gag waterer ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: So the word is that Trump stormed out of the

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Speaker 2: court room literally. I guess the people who've been following

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Speaker 2: the trial witness him. Just Trump jumped up in it,

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Speaker 2: puffed his way out, so like any good toddler. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And of course this is about the case from the

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Speaker 2: New York State Attorney General who allegis Trump and his

631
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Speaker 2: company fraudulently inflated the value of his assets for years

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Speaker 2: to get an edgine business to the tune of two

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollars. I still don't get this case. Now,

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Speaker 2: I know you don't.

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Speaker 1: I just find this case absolutely bogus. Who is the

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Speaker 1: victim here?

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Speaker 2: Whoever bought into Trump's valuations? I don't know, but lenders?

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Speaker 2: But but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But there's there's no defendant here. There's no I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's no plaintiff. There is no plaintiff making the attorney general.

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Speaker 1: The attorney general, yeah, she's making a stink of it.

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Speaker 1: But there's no insurance companies, there's no mortgage companies, no

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Speaker 1: banks complaining about Trump because whatever money he borrowed he

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Speaker 1: paid back right. Nobody said there was any any uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, fraud that cost them money.

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Speaker 2: So this was a super bogus. So Trump was actually

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Speaker 2: on the stand today and the judge asked him about

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Speaker 2: a remark he made earlier, which Trump denied had been

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Speaker 2: about the judge's top law cloak law clerk. The judge said,

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Speaker 2: did you say this judge is a very partisan judge

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Speaker 2: with a person who is very partisan sitting alongside of him,

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Speaker 2: And Trump said, yes, but I was referring to the witness,

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Speaker 2: Michael Cohen. So that's where they disagree. You're sure you

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Speaker 2: didn't mean the person on the other side here, My

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Speaker 2: principal law clerk. Trump's just said, yes, I'm sure the

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Speaker 2: judge excuse Trump. But the judge I find the witness

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Speaker 2: non credible and find him dollars. That's what Trump said,

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Speaker 2: that out of here you're declared not credible. It almost

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Speaker 2: is like a Saturday Live skit. Trump's life sometimes it

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Speaker 2: is hard to believe, well not hard to believe, because

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Speaker 2: you and I what we think of politicians. The fact

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Speaker 2: that it's devolved in this manner on both sides does

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Speaker 2: not surprise me, because it really is a joke. Is

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Speaker 2: people in political life are either corrupt, whether in it

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Speaker 2: for the celebrity, the money, the connections, the glory, or

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Speaker 2: they're just stupid. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know where Trump gets the energy

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Speaker 1: to carry on all the fight I think off of it.

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Speaker 2: Honestly. It's a fascinating personality, though, isn't it. He likes

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Speaker 2: the drama, He likes stirring things up. Don't you know

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Speaker 2: people that I do, actually, but I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: name them, but they get bored with most of life. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know, and putting the you know, taking a dump

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Speaker 2: in the in the cake mix is exciting.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I read a psychological analysis once is

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Speaker 1: that people if they grew up in a chaotic environment,

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Speaker 1: that's the that's all they knew, is that's all you know.

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Speaker 1: And it makes them feel comfortable that they actually feel

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Speaker 1: uncomfortable when things are peaceful to quiet. Yeah, it makes

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Speaker 1: them kind of jumpy. And so then they start something

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Speaker 1: and it's like, ah, yes, my childhood, I remember this.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's screaming at each other all day.

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