1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in. We are rolling here on 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: the Wednesday edition of the program. I'm back from a 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: family trip. It's not a vacation. Those of you with 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: kids will know what I'm talking about. I'll explain a 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: bit later. Buck held down the ship, excited to be back. 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: A few things it seems like may have happened while 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: I was away. In terms of big news that happened 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: over the course of yesterday evening, JD. Vance won a 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: hotly contested Ohio Senate primary for Republicans. He is likely 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: now to be really a substantial favorite in the betting markets, 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: the wagering markets to retain that seat in Ohio. Donald 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: Trump's endorsement is what puts him across the finish line. 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: Swung a tremendous amount. We'll see if the same thing 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: happens here soon in Pennsylvania and maybe later in Arizona, 16 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: where there are also hotly contested primaries. Dave Chappelle was 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: attacked on the stage in La Chris Rock came out 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: immediately after it asked if it was Will Smith, and 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: the fallout continues on the Supreme court leak. We've also 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,919 Speaker 1: got Randy Weingarten, who is one of the worst people 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: in America in terms of the arguments that she's made 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: over the past couple of years associated with COVID, now 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: acknowledging that there are tremendous impacts two kids associated with kids. 24 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: It is May the fourth. For those of you who 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: are Star Wars fans, Buck, I appreciate you holding down 26 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: the fort while I was gone. I had an incredible 27 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: time with my two youngest solo for five days in Florida, 28 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: and my wife had finals. I think I've mentioned she's 29 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: finishing her law school degree, so she wasn't there. Our 30 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: oldest had to stay in school. And you don't have 31 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: kids yet, Buck, But there is a massive difference between 32 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: a vacation and a family trip. So far from most 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: of your adult life, Buck, you've gotten to take vacations 34 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: when you have young children, you take family trips, which 35 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: means you return more tired than you were when you 36 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: actually left. So it was hanging out with me and 37 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: millions of people now across America. Is that a bit 38 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: like a vacation at least in terms of a fatigue 39 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: on your body? It is infinitely less less stressful to 40 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: get to hang out with everybody on this show than 41 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: to be a dad in charge of two young kids 42 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: for five days running around in Orlando all over the place. 43 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: So I'm back. I'm excited to be back, and I'm 44 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: fired up. We were texting and talking about this. I 45 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: was on It's a Small World, Buck. I went to 46 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: Magic Kingdom for one day. I know people are fired 47 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: up about Disney. We had the trip already booked. I 48 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: went to Universal Studios for two days, and I went 49 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: to Sea World for a day, So I was everywhere, 50 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: but I was on It's a Small World when Politico's 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: story broke about about the leaking of the opinion. And 52 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: that's really where I'm super fired up, Buck, because this 53 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: is me as a lawyer. In my life, we have 54 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: never had a Supreme Court opinion like this league and 55 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: so this, immediately to me, is an attempt to put pressure, 56 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: certainly put a target potentially in the world we live 57 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: in today, a violent nature, target on the Supreme Court 58 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: justices who are potentially going to overturn Roe v. Way. 59 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: It is designed, i think, to put more pressure on 60 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: Democrats to end the filibuster at sixty votes and make 61 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: it a fifty vote majority so that they can expand 62 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. As soon as it came out and 63 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: I read everything that Politico wrote, those were my immediate 64 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: thoughts right off the top. And I know you talked 65 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: about this a lot yesterday, obviously, as it was such 66 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: a monumental story. My prescription here, Buck would be John 67 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: Roberts needs to join this opinion and make it sixty three, 68 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: and it needs to be immediately released as is, to end, 69 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: at least on some level, the violent threats and danger 70 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: that are potentially out there for all of the conservative 71 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: justices who are voting to overturn Roe v. Wade. And 72 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: the other thing I would continue to hammer home is 73 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: this doesn't end rov Wade in terms of abortion right. 74 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: It puts it back on the states where this probably 75 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: should have been from the get go, makes it what 76 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: it is a political issue, and allows everybody who has 77 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: a strong opinion on abortion to advocate for their state legislature, 78 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: for their state Senate, for their governors, so that politics 79 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: they can actually make a decision on a political nature. 80 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: Anybody who's been to law school and has read Roe v. Wade, 81 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: it is an awfully written opinion and it was clearly 82 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: designed to get to the result that it did, but 83 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: it has been a absolute mess for whatever it is 84 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: fifty years nearly now, and so putting it back on 85 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: the states, I think is the way that this should 86 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: have been resolved. I actually hope that this will take 87 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: some of the heat in the long range buck out 88 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: of this issue because people can advocate for it, You 89 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: can support candidates on whichever side you want to support, 90 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: and allow the political process to play out, as opposed 91 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: to allowing nine justices constantly shifting nine justices to make 92 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: decisions about this. Yeah, to the degree that it's possible 93 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: the political process through self governance and the legislature, of 94 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: course rooted in the Constitution, this was a bastardization of 95 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: constitutional principle to create a right where clearly none existed. 96 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: But you can either have consensus or you can have 97 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: conflict management through the process of the states voting on 98 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: and dealing with these issues and the complexities therein. Instead, 99 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: we had the one size from the Supreme Court fits 100 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: all approach on a very very important, very you know, 101 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: very emotional, let's be honest, emotional issue for a lot 102 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: of people. And now you're seeing as well play a 103 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: meltdown under way. It's hard to even refute the arguments 104 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: that are being made against this because they are so varied, flimsy, 105 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: and irrational at the same time. Now, I know there 106 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: are some arguments that are obviously more serious than others 107 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: about this. I mean you're having people say, now, oh, well, 108 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: this will lead to overturning all Supreme Court precedents. I mean, 109 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: that's just a bad faith argument, because there are some 110 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: precedent for overturning precedents. We could name what the cases are. 111 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: Everybody knows that. But I also just think that people 112 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: have gotten used to not having to even the left, 113 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: the pro abortion lobby, They've gotten used to not even 114 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: having to make the argument. They just point to like 115 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: it's a big neon sign, it's a constitutional right and 116 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: everything flows from that. And a lot of people half 117 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: the country roughly give or take, have been sitting there saying, Okay, 118 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: we can have a whole discussion about what the restrictions 119 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: that everything should be or whatever it may be. But 120 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: this whole it's a constitutional right thing is obvious bullcrap. Okay, 121 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: we're not we shouldn't be, but we were forced to 122 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: deal with that for fifty years. So I think there's 123 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: now a recognition, Clay that even though there will be 124 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: as as you're saying, there'll be abortion dealt with as 125 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: a state's states legislative issue, the people who are in 126 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: favor of this and planned parent and all the rest 127 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: of them, they're going to have to actually make the 128 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:35,119 Speaker 1: case for why should it be you know, at six months, 129 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: at three months, at four weeks, that's six weeks. Well, 130 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: what are the realities here and what's the argument instead 131 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: of just pointing to the big neon sign that was 132 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: given to them in nineteen seventy three and says it's 133 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: a constitutional right. Shut up, peasant, This is the way 134 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: it goes. So I think that's part of the emotional outburst. 135 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: Do we because we do? We have. There's been a 136 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: lot of this. I mean, Elizabeth Warren is shouting about 137 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: this here, Kamala Harris, the vice president, She's just screaming 138 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: essentially about what's going on in those Republican leaders who 139 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: are trying to weaponize the use of the law against women. Well, 140 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: we say, how dare they? How dare they tell a 141 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: woman what she can do and cannot do with her 142 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: own body? How dare they How dare they try to 143 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: stop her from determining her own future? How dare they 144 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: try to deny women their rights and their freedoms. That's 145 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: just not a legal argument, Clay, not even trying to 146 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: be one. Well, and look, if you believe, as I do, 147 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: that we have fifty state laboratories, then there will be 148 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: fifty different laws as it pertains to abortion, right. I mean, 149 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: that's where we're headed. And the New York Times did 150 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: a study that found that at Roe v. Wade being 151 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: eliminated on a federal level, was eighty six percent of 152 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: existing abortions would still occur. Now, I don't know if 153 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: that's true. One positive in the last fifty years I 154 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: know people can't talk about positives is the overall number 155 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: of abortions have continued to decline. And I do think 156 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: buck that everybody out there listening would say, and that 157 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: this should be a goal. The number of accidental pregnancies 158 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: should continue to decline in the decades ahead. I would 159 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: like to think, right, because there are all different sorts 160 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: of ways to avoid getting pregnant, and so teenage pregnancy 161 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: is down massive. I don't know exactly why that is. 162 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: I think It's something that deserves a substantial amount of study. 163 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: When we were kids growing up, Bucket, used to not 164 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: be uncommon for fourteen and fifteen year olds to have babies. 165 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: There's almost no fourteen and fifteen year old statistically having 166 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: children now. So the number of teenage pregnancies, the number 167 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: of of people that are having children at young ages, 168 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: continues to decline. And so I would hope that by 169 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: having this now in the political realm where people debate, 170 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: where people have to defend their perspective whatever it is, 171 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: and where everybody can go vote and share whatever their 172 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: opinion is, that it's going to actually, in the long run, 173 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: dial down the intensity and the anger and the vitriol 174 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: that surrounds this issue. Will it I don't know, but 175 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,479 Speaker 1: over the last forty nine years it certainly hasn't diminished. 176 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: And we got people breaking police officer police car windows 177 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: all over LA. And let me, just by the way, 178 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: bring up the dumbest person in media. I gotta give 179 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: her this title. She is the dumbest person in media. 180 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: Joy Behar went on The View yesterday and we were 181 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: talking about this off airbuck I legitimately wonder what arguments 182 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: are made to Joy Behar, and she says, no, that's 183 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: too dumb for me to say. She said, as a 184 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: result of this report, she's worried about racial segregation an 185 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: American schools. Buck listen to cut six. The dumbest woman 186 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: in media, Joy Behar weighing in. My worry is that 187 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: this is just the beginning next logo after game marriage 188 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: and maybe maybe the board what is it, brown dress 189 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: Board of Education. They are ready eroded our voting rights 190 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: a little bit. So I see some I see fascism 191 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: down the line here. I don't know you notice Clay. 192 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: The first thing I said, I mean, I see idiocy 193 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: right now on the airwaves with Joy Behar. Um. The 194 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: first thing I said was that the most unserious argument 195 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: is they well, now every then, now the Supreme Court 196 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: is just gonna overturn everything. You're gonna have no rights, 197 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: They're gonna this is just a spasm of emotion from 198 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: people who haven't actually thought through never mind right, I 199 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: mean reading the actual draft opinion. That's way beyond a 200 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: lot of the people opining on this. You and I 201 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: were texting what we do as soon as this comes out. 202 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: Read the opinions. You actually have some idea, right, that's 203 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: that's our step one. Joy's step one. Oh god, I 204 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: think you want to know what it is well. And 205 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: by the way, he specifically mentions in this opinion that 206 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: this does not occur and it doesn't apply things that 207 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: she's worried about. Right. But you know the other part 208 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: of this is that for the for the pro life 209 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: So there's the legal argument about returning this to the 210 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: states and just ending the fiction of a constitutional right 211 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: to abortion. I mean, it has always been a fiction. 212 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: It has been obvious from the start. It was honestly 213 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: just an outrageous violation of core constitutional principle to try 214 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: to fabricate this, and they got away with it for decades, 215 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: which is pretty insane. But for the pro life movement 216 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: this now means two things. One, they're on a playing 217 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: field where they can actually now to your point, Clay, 218 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: about making the case now the pro life movement in 219 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: different states isn't dealing with it because the right to abortion, 220 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't even just the constitutional right aspect of it 221 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: that was fabricated. It was also all these special access 222 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: provisions and where can you protest? And this got more 223 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: protection and more absolutism from the left than any other 224 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: right I can think of. This is going to if 225 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: the whole prism now, so that the pro life movement 226 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: state by state can say, our goal is now to 227 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: get the legislature to actually eliminate abortion, except probably and 228 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: when the's threat to the life of the mother, for example. 229 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: I think you'll see a number of states where that happens. 230 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: Instead of having to deal with the federal government just 231 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: coming in and saying, well, there's a constitutional right now, 232 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: you're actually going to have a political state by state 233 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: fight where the pro life movement feels like it can 234 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: actually get what it wants, which is which is an 235 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: end to abortion in a lot of ways that a 236 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: lot of states. I think that's what you'll see. And 237 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: they also just view it as saving lives. So even 238 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: if it's let's say twenty five states and twenty five 239 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: states Clay right, if the pro life movement manages to 240 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: get twenty five states to dramatically limit almost entirely limited abortion, 241 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: they view that as saving lives. So it's a game changer. 242 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 1: It's going to motivate and mobilize them a whole lot 243 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: all across the country. I don't think there's any doubt 244 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: that there will be fewer abortions, right, I mean, and 245 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: that's what the data will reflect. And again, I just think, 246 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: fifty state laboratories, let's have that battle, let's see what 247 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: ends up happening. What I believe should happen is get 248 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: the opinion out, make it six three, and then I 249 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: think what you have to think about politically, we should 250 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: have this discussion too, what's it mean for the mid terms, 251 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: but also what's it mean for the Supreme Court going forward? 252 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: Six three to me is more important than five four 253 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: because the danger and a five four vote buck And 254 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna put it out there, the danger and 255 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: a five four vote. We have got a lot of 256 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: crazy people in this country. In a five four vote, 257 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: you are effectively telling, especially while there's a Democratic president, 258 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: if you were to engage in violence and remove one 259 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: of those voters, then you've got the potential to swing 260 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: it back immediately. And that is that's pretty terrifying, I think, 261 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: which is why if Chief Justice Roberts really cares about 262 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: the overall trajectory of his court, a six three vote 263 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: would make it a lot safer, I'm being honest, a 264 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: lot safer for the majority out there. 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This is Buck, 299 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: He's Clay, He's back, and a lot has happened the 300 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: last couple of days, so we're excited to break it 301 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: all down for you today. I mean the political mess 302 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: that this is putting in. I mean to say it's 303 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: it's just it's a food fight. The Democrats are losing 304 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: their minds. You've got people out in the streets in 305 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: La breaking cop car windows and fighting with officers. I mean, 306 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: there's protests popping up, and we're just seeing the beginnings 307 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: of it. It's hard to know when it will reach 308 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: it's it's apex of frenzy. But when we come back 309 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: in a second, we should declay. I mean, Elizabeth Warren's 310 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: just I've never seen a member of the Senate shaking 311 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: with rage in this way, so she's certainly getting a 312 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: lot of attention for that. But also here's a question 313 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: that ties into the midterms that even the next election 314 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: coming up, is it fair to say that Donald Trump 315 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: is the most consequential pro life president in history. We're 316 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: going to debate that and discuss it when we come back. 317 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: I think it guarantees if we didn't already think that 318 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was going to run. We'll also talk about 319 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: jd Vance, what this could mean for suburban women in 320 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: terms of voting impact, all of that and more. In 321 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: the meantime, I want to talk about my pillow. One 322 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: of the best products we've ever introduced and use every day, 323 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: the Giza sheets from my Pillow. They will hook you up. 324 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: They're outstanding. I've got them on every bed in my house. 325 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: Now's a great time to join us and the millions 326 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: of Americans who changed the quality of their sleep through 327 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: my Pillow Right now an incredible offer. 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Now politically, 336 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about the fact that when the 337 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: Supreme Court decided to take these cases, that they were 338 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: likely to be taking the cases to start to take 339 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: away undercut Roe v. Wade. I thought buck that they 340 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: would uphold the Mississippi law banning abortion after fifteen weeks 341 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: and that they would continue to kind of chip away 342 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: at it. That's what John Roberts I believe would have done. 343 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: Based on the Alito opinion which leaked, it appears they're 344 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: going to do away with Roe v. Wade. So let's 345 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: take away the morality angle and everything else and just 346 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: talk about the political angle. What does this do politically? 347 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: Because we're headed towards a red wave in twenty twenty two, 348 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: and my belief is that there are a lot of 349 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: middle of the road, suburban women and who are furious 350 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: over COVID and all the Democrats shutdowns and lockdowns, and 351 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: we've got an unbelievable clip from Randy Weingarten to reflect this. 352 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: Does this make their decisions more difficult? And in some 353 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: of those states, In some of those states like Georgio, 354 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: where you've got Warnock who's an incumbent going up against 355 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: probably herschel Walker, the primary's coming up soon, in Arizona 356 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: where you've got Mark Kelly who's probably on the ropes. 357 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: In Wisconsin where our friend Ron Johnson is running for reelection, 358 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: in several in New Hampshire where Maggie Hassan is really 359 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: on the ropes. I mean, we can run through all 360 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: these different political markets. Does this have a substantial impact 361 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: or enough of an impact to swing those elections? Because 362 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: really the Democrats don't have anything else to run on, 363 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: so are they going to hammer this decision over and 364 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: over and over again in an effort to try to 365 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: mobilize suburban women. That's my question. I don't think it's 366 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: going to have a big effect positive effect for the 367 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: Democrats going into the midterms. I think there are too 368 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: many imminent issues because remember, what is the what's the 369 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: pitch really as well, it's going to be put us 370 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: in charge so we can pass a federal law to 371 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: make abortion legal. I mean, okay, but anybody who understands 372 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: how the system works, one, they'll be challenges to a 373 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: federal abortion law, which will rely on the interstate commerce 374 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: clause I suppose, and whether that's too much of it. 375 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: Remember the Violence Against Women Act, right, there are things 376 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: that sometimes are too far even for the stretching of 377 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: the commerce clause that Democrats engage in. But beyond that, 378 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: it would just mean that Republicans the next time around 379 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: could change the law or could or could you know, 380 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: could rescind whatever they think these these new whatever the 381 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: new legislation would be. And so with that, I don't 382 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: think it really mobilizes that many people who would not 383 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: be interested in voting against Republicans or voting for Democrats anyway. 384 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: I don't see it having that much of an impact. 385 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: And I think when you look at how it will 386 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: galvanize many people on the right who have been working 387 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, they've been working toward this moment for a 388 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: long time, right, decades, for decades, and now it's not that. 389 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: I mean, if you talk to anybody in the pro 390 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: life movement, their their vision of this isn't oh, this 391 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: is victory. It's oh, well, now we're in Now, we're 392 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: really in the fight. Right now, We're really in the 393 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: fight in a way that we're not being having our 394 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: hands tied behind our backs by this nineteen seventy three decision. 395 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, basically I'm saying clause, I 396 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: think it'll kind of cancel out in terms of the 397 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: pure politics of this. Therefore, it doesn't really move the 398 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: overall needle for Democrats in a meaningful way. That's that's 399 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: my sense of how this goes, especially because if you 400 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: live in California, if you live in New York, if 401 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: you live in New Jersey, you got in Massachusetts, the 402 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: law is not going to change. I mean, whatever the 403 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: law actually we could have more open right should say, 404 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: the law isn't going to change. What I mean is 405 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: the your abortion abortion regime will not change because obviously 406 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: the law will change. From a federal perspective, I'm intrigued 407 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: to see what happens from purely from a political perspective. 408 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: This decision coming out in twenty twenty three, I think 409 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: probably would have benefited Republicans because we've been arguing about 410 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: what is the argument that Democrats make? What argument do 411 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: they make? Right? Uh? And Biden is such a disaster 412 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: that I really don't think he has any argument based 413 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: on what he's done. And so now the argument is 414 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: going to and we'll play Elizabeth Warren here for you 415 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: in a moment. Now, the argument Buck is going to be, 416 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: look at what they're going to take from you. That 417 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: that's the new argument I think for the Democrats in 418 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: the mid term. But you have to, like, let's think 419 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: about who is the voter for whom this is such 420 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: an important issue that it also out out ranks outstrips 421 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: the price of gas, high inflation, right so now now, 422 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: but it's really it's really probably suburban single women more 423 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: so certainly than suburban suburban moms. There are a lot 424 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: of single women in general, because I do think there's 425 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: a lot. But yes, we have you know. I mean, 426 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: it's fun when we get research about this. You know, 427 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: we have a lot of a lot of suburban moms 428 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: listen to this show. How does many suburban single women 429 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: from one to understand? But they're certainly funny. Um, that 430 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: was so fun. I was tuck with demographic and no, no, 431 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: I'm just I mean as a married guy for twenty years, 432 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: Like if if if we had incredible appeal for single women, 433 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: I would be I would be blown away. But mate, 434 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: I'd like to add the demos. You're right, we have 435 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: a huge suburban mom audience that is listening. And when 436 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 1: that what the reason why I'm talking about this is 437 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: when the suburban mom community goes out to dinner, right, 438 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: or goes out for wine, which happens frequently so I'm told, 439 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: and they're all sitting around. I'll give you an example, Buck, 440 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: I was out in I was out in Vegas for 441 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: the March Madness. Right. I went out to dinner with 442 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of women who absolutely love Trump, absolutely love them. Now, 443 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: these are actually single women. My wife was there too, 444 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: by the way, and all of them were all in 445 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: on Trump, and they just were not infatuated with the 446 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: idea of the Supreme Court coming out with an abortion ruling. 447 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: They're still going to vote for would vote for Trump, 448 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: They're still going to vote Republican. But I do think 449 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: that the Republican Party doesn't talk necessarily too There are 450 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: women who are maybe not all in on pro choice, 451 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: but they are certainly more open to the idea of 452 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: abortion and being legal in some circumstances. And I don't 453 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: think you want to alienate those people by allowing Democrats 454 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: to say, oh, we're going to then take the next 455 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: step and try to take away your right to which 456 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna do. They're gonna argue, we're going to take 457 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: away your birth control right, We're going to take away 458 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: everything associated with reproduction. But the only political test run 459 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: that I can think of for this and the recent 460 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 1: past would be as you as you recall the effort 461 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: to block Kavanaugh, which really this is a continuation. Yeah, 462 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: this fight is continuation of that process. In the effort 463 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: to block Kavanaugh, they thought we will go all out 464 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: and it be a shrill and vicious I said at 465 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: the time. It turned a lot of people. I think, 466 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: I claim this for myself into a more wartime conservative 467 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: mentality in the sense that these people will do anything. 468 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: I mean, they will say, these left wing activists and 469 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: Democrat powerbrokers will do absolutely anything to maintain power. They 470 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: have no principles or scruples whatsoever. That was what the 471 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: Kavanaugh hearing showed me. But I bring it up, Clay, 472 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: just because I think the Democrats really believed that this 473 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: was going to save the Senate for them, and now 474 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: there were a lot there was a lot of mobilization. 475 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: I think it backfired and actually cost them Senate control. 476 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: And you may see, depending on how this, you know, 477 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: shakes out in the next couple of months, you could 478 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: see a similar phenomenon where they just go too far 479 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: and seem too crazy. Well that's a great example for me. 480 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: In Tennessee. That's what Marsha Blackburn got elected, and she 481 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: was in what was at least at the time considered 482 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: to be a real battle with Phil Brettison, who was 483 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: a really popular elected Democrat governor, former mayor of Nashville 484 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: who had done a good job, and a lot of 485 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: people I came out publicly and said I'm backing Marsha 486 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: Blackburn in eighteen you know, it's still kind of supposed 487 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: to be a tight race because I said I can't 488 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: support in any way any Democrat in the Senate after 489 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: watching the Kavanaugh hearings, and I think there are a 490 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: lot of people like me who helped, you know, certainly 491 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: had that response. There are two sides to that whole 492 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: war on women concept that the Democrats roll out. You know, 493 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: it's not it's not a not a one way battle. 494 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: And I would just people sometimes criticize me a little 495 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: bit on the why don't you Why aren't I more 496 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: critical of Lindsey Graham? And I will just I will 497 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: just admit this because there are things that I disagree 498 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: with the Senator on pretty pretty strongly. I will never 499 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: forget and always gear he was an amazing there. He 500 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: stood up when we needed somebody to stand up and 501 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: get it done in the Senate. Senator, Senator Graham, I 502 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: give him a lot of credit for that. He stood 503 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: up and got it done. He was and that was 504 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: I think his finest hour. I mean that speech that 505 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: he gave the best moment of his career. I would 506 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: best moment of his career. I don't I don't think 507 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: there's any doubt when we come back, by the way 508 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 1: we'll play, maybe that Elizabeth Warren for you, because I 509 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: think you need to hear what is coming as the 510 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: midterms get closer or almost exactly six months out. 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Look, we want to hear 530 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: from you about whether you think this will as I 531 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: just saw the headline on CNN, will this reshape the midterms? 532 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: Like Democrats are desperate, The polls are down in the 533 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,959 Speaker 1: depths of despair for them, the Biden regime. I mean, 534 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: they got a guy who is clearly not getting it 535 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: done and clearly doesn't know where he is. Sometimes at 536 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: the top of their parties, they got problems. Well this 537 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: turn it all around for them, Clan I will continue 538 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: to talk to you about that. We've also got doctor Burkes. 539 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: She gets we don't she doesn't get enough heat on 540 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: this show. Clay All, I'll speak for myself. All my 541 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: heat goes toward Fouci and Wilenski and Burks's bad news 542 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: on this stuff. Well, she tapped out after she got 543 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: caught going to her vacation home, and I think she's 544 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: not She doesn't seem as first of all, she hasn't 545 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: been in office for like a year and a half 546 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: like Fauci, so but she's come back out and now 547 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: saying all sorts of crazy. She's trying to Outfoulci. Fauci 548 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: all this say, it's like she's been in a cryogenic 549 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: freeze for the last eighteen She has a book, right, Yeah, 550 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: she's got a book now, But she's saying things that 551 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: I would have expected maybe public health experts to say 552 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: in the summer of twenty twenty. Yeah, I'm not even 553 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: talking summer twenty twenty one. Well, we'll get to her 554 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: in the next hour. We've also got our friend Rachem 555 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: Kassam joining and later on Tyrus from Fox News, buddy 556 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: of ours. Got it. He's got another book out. It's 557 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: doing very very well. Elizabeth Warren is, let's just remind 558 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: ourselves for a second. Yes, yes, I know people are 559 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: shouting I left that open a fake Native American. Yes, 560 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: that is true, but she is also Did Trump call 561 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: her Pocahontas or folk Hauntess? I can't it was it 562 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 1: was one or the other. Maybe I think he may 563 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: have gone with both, but both are x. I think 564 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: of all the nicknames Trump has ever given, Pocahontas was 565 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: the greatest nickname ever, because I can't look at her 566 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: without thinking about Pokahonas. Look, it was good, but low energy. 567 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: Jeb for some reason really seemed to he seemed to 568 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: hit at the time, but Okay, hold on, she is 569 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: clay As not just a lawyer something you certainly know 570 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: about as a lawyer, and not even just a law professor. 571 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: She is a professor at Harvard Law School, which I 572 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: think she's making like three or four hundred grand to 573 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: teach one class for two hours a week or something, 574 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: which is absurd. Here she is making her most eloquent 575 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: legal argument, and by that I mean throwing a childish, 576 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: hysterical tantrum. I've never seen you so angry. You seem 577 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: to be, as is what the Republicans have been working 578 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: towards this day for decades. They have been out there plotting, 579 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: terrifully cultivating these Supreme Court justices so they could have 580 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: a maturity on the bench who would have accomplished something 581 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: that the majority of Americans do not want. Sixty nine 582 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: percent of people across this country, across this country, red 583 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: states and blue states, old people and young people want 584 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: Roe versus wage to maintain we need to we have 585 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: a right dismember. I mean she's in like a breakdown stage. Yeah, 586 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: And I don't understand the party that argues that democracy 587 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: needs to is under siege all the time. Wouldn't they 588 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: welcome this becoming a democratic issue. If Elizabeth Warren is 589 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: right and sixty nine percent of all Americans believe Roe v. 590 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: Wade should be the law, then here's what would happen. 591 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: By the way, I don't think that that she's right, 592 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: but if she were right, then Democrats would overwhelmingly win 593 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: at the ballot box over this issue, and they would 594 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: have the right to codify whatever laws regarding abortion that 595 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: they want to put in place. Like, I don't understand 596 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: the argument, and I can tell me what I'm missing. 597 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: A part of the argument play is that they lie 598 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: about what they actually want. What the Planned Parenthood approved 599 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: movement for abortion is is actually abortion for any reason, 600 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: at any time during a pregnancy is what they fight against, 601 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: any restriction whatsoever's right. That's what the actual left wing 602 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: pro abortion lobby wants. And then they play this game 603 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: of oh, but people people want to write to abortion Oka, Well, 604 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 1: what does that mean? Because the actual polling from whatever 605 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: you think of polling company shows at you know, the 606 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: first trimester, you're it might be a slight majority based 607 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: on the polling, depends on the poll you look at. 608 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: Second trimester, absolutely not a majority. Third trimester. Basically the 609 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: whole country wants abortion band is our third trimester abortions 610 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: band in every Look at what Colorado just did, the 611 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: most extreme abortion law at the state level past you 612 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: could ever imagine. So they don't want to have to 613 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: actually defend what the movement pushes for. That's a part 614 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: of this. Well, and look, I mean the reality is 615 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: the fifty state laboratories are going to create eight a 616 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 1: wide variety of different laws that pertain to abortion. They're 617 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: going to be some states you just mentioned Colorado. I 618 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: think California will certainly be one of them where they'll 619 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: take it all the way up to places where it 620 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: makes people really uncomfortable. Right, because if you study it, 621 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: as I did while I was in law school, the 622 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: viability has always been a big part of the abortion analysis, 623 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: right when is a child viable outside of the womb? 624 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: And the number of Americans that believe that abortion should 625 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: happen post viability, which is what some people at Plan 626 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: Parenthood will regularly argue, is pretty tiny. Right. Can I 627 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: just say Colorado just passed a law just now that 628 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: abortion is legal at every stage of a pregnancy up 629 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: until the moment of birth. So when Elizabeth Warren is shrieking. 630 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what are we're gonna draw the country's 631 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: fall look apart, she's lying to you when she says 632 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: that's seventy percent or whatever, it is, sixty nine percent, 633 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 1: eight percent of the country wants this. That Colorado's law. 634 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: They couldn't. They couldn't get a majority of the country 635 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: with decades of propaganda to support that. So this is 636 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 1: why they're going to have a problem. Well, yeah, no doubt. 637 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: And in Colorado. We got a lot of people listening 638 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: to us in Colorado right now. I think there are 639 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people saying, wait a minute, this is 640 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: going to lead to extremism. When you got babies that 641 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: are eight months in the womb that are able to 642 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: be fully functional. I mean, this is this is crazy stuff, right, 643 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: And these are the debates that you have to have 644 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: now in the political process, which is going to be messy, 645 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: but I think necessary. Let's take some calls on the 646 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: politics of this. We'll come back in a few minutes. Teams, 647 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: stay with us.