WEBVTT - The Murder Years S2: Ep. 2, Pretend We're Dead

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<v Speaker 1>The following podcast contains explicit descriptions of violence, including sexual violence,

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<v Speaker 1>that some listeners may find upsetting. Continue at your own risk.

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<v Speaker 1>By the end of nineteen ninety two, the murder of

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<v Speaker 1>Erik Kendrick, just over three months before, had become old news.

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<v Speaker 1>I had resumed my duties as copy editor at the

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<v Speaker 1>So Call Journal, which I was assured wasn't a demotion

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<v Speaker 1>since I had never officially been promoted to reporter anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>but it sher felt like one. Glenn Sherman, the journal's

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<v Speaker 1>star reporter, had written two follow up pieces to the

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<v Speaker 1>one I wrote on Vera's death. Both of them focused

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<v Speaker 1>on Vera's unorthodox lifestyle and honestly made it feel like

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<v Speaker 1>she had it coming. One even suggested she may have

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<v Speaker 1>committed suicide in the ocean, and that her injuries could

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<v Speaker 1>have been caused by her body being battered around on

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<v Speaker 1>the rocks. When I worked up the nerve to ask

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn about that angle, he took off his glasses, pinched

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<v Speaker 1>the bridge of hiss, sighed deeply, and said, Courtney, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you have to learn to play ball. I may have

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<v Speaker 1>been young and idealistic at the time, but I was

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<v Speaker 1>of the mind that journalism was about finding facts, not

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<v Speaker 1>playing ball, and my opinion hasn't changed over the years. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just say it hasn't changed much. The ball playing

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn was referring to was a result of the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>being put on him and the journal's editor in chief

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<v Speaker 1>by city councilman Greg Langford, who wanted the story to

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<v Speaker 1>fade away as quickly as possible. They wanted to keep

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<v Speaker 1>the paper on his good side, and it seemed that

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<v Speaker 1>Vera Kendrick wasn't a hill either of them was willing

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<v Speaker 1>to die on, and I guess I wasn't willing to

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<v Speaker 1>die on that hill either. At the paper's holiday party,

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<v Speaker 1>sherman asked me if, in addition to my copy editing duties,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to shadow him. He'd been at the paper

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<v Speaker 1>for fifteen years and had tons of sources all through

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<v Speaker 1>southern California and some national contacts. I would have been

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<v Speaker 1>stupid to turn him down, even though I knew it

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<v Speaker 1>was a whole thing he and his boss decided on

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<v Speaker 1>to keep me close and keep me quiet, and it

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<v Speaker 1>worked too, to my eternal shame, I kept my mouth

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<v Speaker 1>shut for far too long, even as the murders kept

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<v Speaker 1>on coming. I'm Courtney Barnes, and this is The Murder Years,

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<v Speaker 1>Episode two. Pretend We're dead. Once the calendar flipped to

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety three, I was kept pretty busy. I helped

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn research and write about the inauguration of Bill Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>in January.

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<v Speaker 2>My fellow citizens, today we celebrate the mystery of American renewal.

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<v Speaker 1>And the month after that, I helped him with a

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<v Speaker 1>major story when terrorists bombed the North Tower of the

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<v Speaker 1>World Trade Center.

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<v Speaker 3>At this hour, more than five hundred rescue workers are

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<v Speaker 3>there on the scene of a massive underground explosion that

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<v Speaker 3>ripped through the World Trade Center just after noon.

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<v Speaker 1>Today, killing six people and injuring one thousand more. It's

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<v Speaker 1>weird to remember how big and scary that felt at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, before we knew just how bad an attack

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<v Speaker 1>on the Twin Towers would be. Later that year, in April,

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI stormed the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas

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<v Speaker 1>and sent it up in flames, killing seventy nine people,

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<v Speaker 1>including twenty one children and the Colts leader David Koresh.

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<v Speaker 1>I was eating lunch in Gerty's Diner when it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone in there was glued to the TV screen over

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<v Speaker 1>the counter for hours, and it was all anyone talked

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<v Speaker 1>about for weeks. With all that going on in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and with a new tourist season just ramping up, the

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<v Speaker 1>death of a teenage homeless girl just didn't anymore with

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much anyone, myself included. I'm ashamed to say.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not like we were doing nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Damon Stokes, Sheriff of Delsoul County during the Domino

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<v Speaker 1>Beach murders, who you met in episode one.

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<v Speaker 2>Council in Langford wanted us to keep it quiet, and

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<v Speaker 2>we did, but I was still running down every lead

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<v Speaker 2>I came across, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Stan Majors and who was Stan Majors.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, Courtney, you remember Stan Majors. You can't write

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<v Speaker 2>it that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's for our listeners.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I forgot. You don't work in print.

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<v Speaker 1>Anymore, No one does.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yes, you're right, okay, So Stan Majors.

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<v Speaker 2>Major waste of space is what we called them at

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<v Speaker 2>the Sheriff's station. Lived in a trailer park about thirty

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<v Speaker 2>miles inland from Domino Beach, almost right at the border

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<v Speaker 2>of Riverside.

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<v Speaker 1>County, middle of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>You could say that, which is what Stan Majors wanted. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you wanted it, but the state

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<v Speaker 2>California didn't want him within twenty six hundred feet of

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<v Speaker 2>a school or a city park, or anywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>Else the minor might be.

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<v Speaker 1>And why was that?

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<v Speaker 2>Because he was a registered sex offender, which is what

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<v Speaker 2>put him on my radar in the first place.

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<v Speaker 4>In regard to the death of Arrick Hendrick.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen eighty five, Stan Majors, then twenty three years old,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't take no for an answer from a young woman

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<v Speaker 1>who caught his eye at a bar in North Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 1>According to a transcript of his interrogation by the LAPD,

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<v Speaker 1>he was ridiculed by his so called friends for striking

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<v Speaker 1>out and decided to follow her out of the bar.

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<v Speaker 1>When she left, he pulled her into an alley, hit

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<v Speaker 1>her with his fists about the face and head until

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<v Speaker 1>she was semi conscious, and then dragged her behind the

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<v Speaker 1>nearest dumpster. He had pulled her underwear down around her ankles.

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<v Speaker 1>When another man came into the alley to urinate, Majors

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<v Speaker 1>tried to run, but he was caught, beaten to a pulp,

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<v Speaker 1>then arrested, tried, and sentenced to six years in prison.

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<v Speaker 1>As it turned out, his victim was seventeen years old

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<v Speaker 1>and had been in the bar with a fake ID,

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<v Speaker 1>so Majors served every day of those six years. When

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<v Speaker 1>he was released from prison, he found life on the

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<v Speaker 1>sex offender registry kind of difficult, to say the least.

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<v Speaker 1>He moved to a much less populated part of the state,

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<v Speaker 1>got a minimum wage job as an attendant and mechanic

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<v Speaker 1>at a seldom visited gas station on a seldom traveled

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<v Speaker 1>stretch of highway, where he lived a quiet, miserable little life.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have anything on him, mind you, other than

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<v Speaker 2>his criminal history. And when you're investigating a violent sexual assault,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just good practice.

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<v Speaker 4>To check him with the local sex offender.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that was it, That's all you had.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he didn't have an alibi for the night Vera

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<v Speaker 2>was killed. He probably didn't have an alibi for most

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<v Speaker 2>nights of his life. Wasn't exactly mister popularity.

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<v Speaker 1>You know? Did you consider him a suspect?

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<v Speaker 2>Not a suspect. And I had no reason to charge him,

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<v Speaker 2>even hold him.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a person. Event though I questioned him multiple times.

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<v Speaker 1>When was the first time I drove out to.

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<v Speaker 2>The filling station where he worked, and asked him some questions.

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<v Speaker 2>The afternoon VARA's body was found. He was nervous, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, why shouldn't he be, even if he hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>done anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>Excan's get nervous around cops? You know, it's understandable.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, he answered everything I asked him. Didn't make me

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<v Speaker 2>get a warrant. When I asked if I could search

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<v Speaker 2>his car and his trailer didn't find so much as

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<v Speaker 2>a joint. A couple of weeks later, when we still

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't come up with any suspects, one of my deputies

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<v Speaker 2>brought him to the station to sweat him out in

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<v Speaker 2>an interrogation room, and that was mostly done out of frustration,

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<v Speaker 2>not because of any new evidence or anything. Again, he

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<v Speaker 2>answered every question to our satisfaction, and we had no

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<v Speaker 2>choice but to let him go. In the end, we

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<v Speaker 2>decided it wasn't too hard to get a hold of

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<v Speaker 2>him if we needed him, but pursuing him any further

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<v Speaker 2>just felt like a wasted time.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the weeks and months following Viera is murder.

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<v Speaker 1>How much pressure are you getting from the city council.

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<v Speaker 2>Through the rest of nineteen ninety two, not too much.

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<v Speaker 2>We were just pretty much alone to do our jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>But by February or so of ninety three, they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear a word about.

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<v Speaker 4>It from anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>By they, you mean Councilman Greg Langford.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, my dad could have used his pull

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<v Speaker 5>to help find Vera's killer. Instead, he used it to

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<v Speaker 5>get everyone to shut up about it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Connor Langford, whom you may remember from our last episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Connor was one of the surfers who found Vera Kendrick's body,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's also the son of city councilman Greg Langford.

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<v Speaker 5>I tried to get him to help. He said he

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<v Speaker 5>was doing everything he could, but we both knew that

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<v Speaker 5>was bullshit. He was doing everything he could to get

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<v Speaker 5>dominant beach. Just move the fuck on.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when I started working under Glenn Sherman at

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<v Speaker 1>the Sokow Journal, one of the things he asked me

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<v Speaker 1>to do was attend city council meetings and take notes.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't blame him for pawning that off on me.

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<v Speaker 1>If I could have gotten someone else to go on

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<v Speaker 1>my place, I would have. The meetings were usually excruciatingly dull.

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<v Speaker 1>There were some moments of levity or excitement provided by

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<v Speaker 1>citizens who would go up to the podium to demand

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<v Speaker 1>that books they didn't like be banned from schools, or

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<v Speaker 1>for bikinis to be banned from beaches, or for bars

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<v Speaker 1>to be forced to close by ten o'clock, that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. But if you were to condense every council

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<v Speaker 1>meeting down to one line, it would have to be

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<v Speaker 1>how can we bring more tourists to Domino Beach and

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<v Speaker 1>squeeze more money out of them.

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<v Speaker 5>My father was angling to become mayor of Domino Beach.

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<v Speaker 5>What's her face? Either retired or died?

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<v Speaker 1>What's her face? Being Deborah Charles, the eighty five year

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<v Speaker 1>old mayor who would neither retire nor die for another

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<v Speaker 1>six years.

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<v Speaker 5>But even that was only a stepping stone for him.

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<v Speaker 5>He didn't give through fucks about Domino Beach. Once he

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<v Speaker 5>served his mayor, he'd run for state office, then try

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<v Speaker 5>to go national with the House of Representatives, and from

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<v Speaker 5>there he'd weasel his way into somebody's cabinet and eventually

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<v Speaker 5>run for president himself. And he thought I was delusional

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<v Speaker 5>for trying to make it with my band.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that laid out his political ambitions like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Well not in so many words.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 5>The thing about my dad was if there was a

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<v Speaker 5>bigger job with more power, he wanted it.

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<v Speaker 1>I see. So getting back to why he didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to help Salvera's murder, all.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, Well, with him, everything was all about perception. If

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<v Speaker 5>he was responsible for it, it had to be motherfucking perfect.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm in his family, which, yeah, I'm man enough to admit.

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<v Speaker 5>I said to embarrass the son of a bitch every

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<v Speaker 5>chance I got.

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<v Speaker 1>And his town too, right, Domeno Beach had to be

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<v Speaker 1>the safest, cleanest, most lucrative tourist spot in California, or

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<v Speaker 1>what he'd consider himself a failure?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, he'd never see himself as a failure. He

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<v Speaker 5>never took responsibility for a goddamn thing. You Competitive, things

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<v Speaker 5>weren't going his way, he'd find someone to blame for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Langford blamed me for just about anything he could.

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<v Speaker 2>If he wanted something cleaned up, he'd order me to

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<v Speaker 2>do it, And when I'd say I needed the council

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<v Speaker 2>to give me more resources, he'd get over wanting to

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<v Speaker 2>get it cleaned up and settle for hiding it where

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<v Speaker 2>no one would be able to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you're talking about Domino Beach's heroin problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the heroin problem.

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<v Speaker 1>In the early nineties, if Domino Beach was known for anything,

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<v Speaker 1>it was good vibes and good times. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>safe place occupied by safe people, doing mostly safe things,

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<v Speaker 1>and having a great time doing them. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>that was because of where it was, far enough away

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<v Speaker 1>from the big cities to feel like a vacation nation,

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<v Speaker 1>but close enough to them to take advantage of all

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<v Speaker 1>the conveniences they provided. But in spite of what it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like from the outside, Domino Beach had a heroin

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<v Speaker 1>problem that rivaled that of any major city, at least

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<v Speaker 1>on a per capita basis. After all, Domino Beach was

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<v Speaker 1>only about an hour's drive from the Mexican border, but

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<v Speaker 1>small enough that we didn't receive the scrutiny La and

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego got. Anyway, we had drugs in Domino Beach,

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<v Speaker 1>and wherever there are drugs, there are drug addicts.

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<v Speaker 2>The War on drugs was always a loser, but we

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<v Speaker 2>did what we could to manage it. I mean, during

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<v Speaker 2>the off season, the junkies would fade inland, which, to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, was fine by me if they wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>waste their lives shooting up junk. As long as they

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<v Speaker 2>were doing it in the privacy of their own homes

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<v Speaker 2>and as long as they were not hurting anyone, wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a priority to me.

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<v Speaker 1>What about during the tourist season.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that was different.

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<v Speaker 2>When the tourists came to town, the junkies would wander

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<v Speaker 2>in and two they panhandle turn tricks, sell skunk weed

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<v Speaker 2>to college students.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, in a way, they were just like the

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<v Speaker 4>rest of us.

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<v Speaker 2>From April to August was when you had a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to make your nut in Domino Beach.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about Billy Boy Reeves.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>In July of nineteen ninety three, I had been shadowing

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<v Speaker 1>crime and politics reporter Glenn Sherman for over six months,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was starting to step out from under that shadow.

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<v Speaker 1>I had figured out that part of the reason he

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<v Speaker 1>kept tabs on me was because he read the article

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote on Vera Kendrick and got nervous. He saw

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<v Speaker 1>me as a good writer that the journal could hire

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot less than what he was making. So

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't really a mentor protege thing. It was more

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<v Speaker 1>like a keep your enemies closer thing. So unless I

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<v Speaker 1>was working directly with him, I wasn't getting any crime

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<v Speaker 1>or politics stories to cover. During the summer, I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of pretty superficial fair like covering the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>of July five K fun run, or doing write ups

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<v Speaker 1>on new bars and restaurants, and I got admit I

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed it. I was developing a style that seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>play better with lighthearted stuff than all that doom and gloom.

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<v Speaker 1>So when Billy Boy Reeves was found dead in a

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<v Speaker 1>dumpster on Wednesday, July twenty eighth, nineteen ninety three, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't me who wrote the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Billy Boy Reeves had been in Domino Beach less than

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<v Speaker 2>a year, and I had had him in lock up

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<v Speaker 2>at least half a dozen times. He'd claimed to have

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<v Speaker 2>come from San Diego on his way to LA and

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<v Speaker 2>got distracted by the heroin.

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<v Speaker 4>Market in our sleepy little town so decided to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>Awhile, what do you mean he claimed to have come

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<v Speaker 1>up from San Diego?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, no one knew where he really came from

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<v Speaker 2>or even what his real name was. Other than the

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<v Speaker 2>rap sheet I had on him. There was no documentation

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<v Speaker 2>he ever existed, and his body was never claimed.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I learned about Billy Boy Reeves. He was

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere in the neighborhood of sixteen years old and completely

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<v Speaker 1>on his own. Lord only knew how long he'd been

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<v Speaker 1>hooked on heroin, but it had to be long enough

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<v Speaker 1>that there was no limit to what he'd do to

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<v Speaker 1>feed his addiction.

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<v Speaker 2>Prostitution goes hand in hand with illegal drugs anywhere you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Junkies need their fix, and getting someone off in exchange

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<v Speaker 2>for a few bucks is one of the easiest ways

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<v Speaker 2>to make it happen. I picked up Billy Boy twice

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<v Speaker 2>already since April of nineteen ninety three for solicitation. Well

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<v Speaker 2>don't see propossessioned the wrong guy. Some spring break frat

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<v Speaker 2>boy didn't like the fact that Billy thought he might

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy a little attention from another guy. Frat boy beat

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<v Speaker 2>Billy Boy up pretty good, and I had him treated

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<v Speaker 2>at the hospital instead of arresting him. I tried to

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<v Speaker 2>help him see the error of his ways. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that was naive of me.

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<v Speaker 1>So Domino Beach wasn't without it, Sarah. For violent crime,

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<v Speaker 1>of course not. We certainly didn't have it on the

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<v Speaker 1>scale of a big city. But you know, people will

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<v Speaker 1>be paid every year.

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<v Speaker 2>We had some fights, occasional sexual assault, although well you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they were probably more than occasional, just underreported

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<v Speaker 1>and under prosecuted.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a different time. It was wrong, and I

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<v Speaker 4>never intentionally turned a blind eye to anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not here about that, no.

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<v Speaker 2>But I could have made more of a difference. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that is something I regret about my career.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand. But let's get back to Billy Boy Reeves.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So, like I said, in the six or seven

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<v Speaker 2>months he'd been in town, I'd gotten enom as well

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<v Speaker 2>as I knew any of our troublemaking element. So that

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<v Speaker 2>morning when I got the call, I felt like I failed.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried to help him, but I failed.

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Boy Reeves was found with his throat slit in

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<v Speaker 1>a dumpster in the alley behind Bleach Blonde Betty's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the more popular bars and music venues in Domino Beach.

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<v Speaker 1>Triple Bees, as it was known to the locals, served

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<v Speaker 1>some of the cheapest boos in town and could hold

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<v Speaker 1>about three hundred sweaty mosh pitting kids. They had a

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<v Speaker 1>cool stage and a great sound system, and during the

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<v Speaker 1>peak of tourist season, hosted two or three bands a night,

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<v Speaker 1>four or five times a week.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the autopsy, Billy Boy had been high on

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<v Speaker 2>heroin at the time of his death, maybe even unconscious.

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<v Speaker 2>We came to believe that his murderer helped him score,

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<v Speaker 2>got him higher than he'd probably ever been in his life,

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<v Speaker 2>and then once he was so out of it, he

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<v Speaker 2>had no idea what was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was later. You didn't think that at first,

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<v Speaker 1>did you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, No, like I said, Billy Boy was a troublemaker.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd assumed that he'd tried to get over on a

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<v Speaker 2>dealer or a john and it just worked out.

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<v Speaker 4>Poorly for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you investigate?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course we did. I talked to every junkie in

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<v Speaker 2>Delsol County. No one saw shit as usual. I did

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<v Speaker 2>get one girl to tell me Billy Boy told her

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<v Speaker 2>he was planning on hustling that night, but no one

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<v Speaker 2>saw him with anyone. No one saw him get into

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<v Speaker 2>a car or anything, or if they did, they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>So Billy Boy got swept under the ruck like Vera Hendrick.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say that it wasn't the same thing no one.

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<v Speaker 2>No one thought those deaths were related, not.

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<v Speaker 4>At the time.

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<v Speaker 1>What no one noticed at the time was the clue

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<v Speaker 1>that linked Billy Boy Reeve's death with the death of

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<v Speaker 1>Vera Hendrick. There was a lot of graffiti in the

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<v Speaker 1>alley where Billy Boy was found, so it would have

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<v Speaker 1>been very easy to miss. But spray painted on the

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<v Speaker 1>brick wall above the dumpster were the words just say

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<v Speaker 1>no to individuality. In time, when the connection would be made,

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<v Speaker 1>we would learn that this is a lyric from a

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<v Speaker 1>song by the all female Los Angeles punk band L seven.

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<v Speaker 1>The title of the song Pretend We're Dead. If anyone

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<v Speaker 1>had been paying attention, they would have seen a pattern

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<v Speaker 1>for me. In less than a year, two people had

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<v Speaker 1>been murdered in Domino Beach, with song lyrics left alongside

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<v Speaker 1>their bodies, but no one was paying attention. The two

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<v Speaker 1>victims were both homeless teenagers, forgotten by their families and

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<v Speaker 1>easily dismissed by the town of Domino Beach.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, that junkie kid.

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<v Speaker 3>Wish you barely even heard about that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Maya Morales again, girlfriend to Connor Langford. At the

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<v Speaker 1>time of the murders of both Vera Hendrick and Billie

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<v Speaker 1>Boy Reeves.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I practically lived at Triple B's during the

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<v Speaker 3>summer when I wasn't working. Bartender would usually let me

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<v Speaker 3>drink for free, long as I tip them good. And

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<v Speaker 3>Connor's band played there at least twice a week, first

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<v Speaker 3>set usually, but still.

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<v Speaker 1>So no one at Triple Be's talked about it, not really.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we knew a body had been found, but

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't like. Look, Jeff Franklin, the owner of Triple B's,

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<v Speaker 3>he hired undocumented workers, okay, and it was one of

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<v Speaker 3>them who found the body, and well, he ended up

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<v Speaker 3>getting deported because of it. And Jeff considered.

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<v Speaker 4>It a pretty sensitive subject.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't talk about it, and if anyone else did,

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<v Speaker 3>he would shut it down and kick them out of

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<v Speaker 3>the bar. To tell you the truth, we didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>know it was a murder. You didn't, no, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we just heard they found a dead junkie.

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<v Speaker 4>Back then. We all assumed it was an overdose.

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<v Speaker 3>And I guess everyone who knew better just let us

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<v Speaker 3>believe that. The cops, the council, Jeff, everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Was Connor's band playing that night the.

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<v Speaker 3>Night before the body was found.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and were you there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I didn't stay for the whole set. I

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<v Speaker 3>had just gotten a second job at Gravel Records and

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<v Speaker 3>I had to open the next day, so I did

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<v Speaker 3>that early.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a question.

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<v Speaker 5>You've asked me a lot of questions already.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a more sensitive question. Okay, shoot, Well maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's more of an observation than a question. It is

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<v Speaker 1>strange that you were kind of connected to both the

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<v Speaker 1>murders of Vera Kendrick and Billy Boy Reeves.

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<v Speaker 5>So I mean, I'll give you Veria. I knew or

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<v Speaker 5>I slept with there a couple of times, and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>the one who found her body. But the junkie kid.

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<v Speaker 1>You were a Triple Bees the night before his body

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<v Speaker 1>was found.

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<v Speaker 5>So were a lot of people. Triple Bees was a

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<v Speaker 5>popular spot. I'd never even heard of that kid before.

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<v Speaker 1>Not even I mean, like I said, I know this

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<v Speaker 1>is sensitive, but you were using drugs pretty heavily at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, weren't you, And he was very much in

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<v Speaker 1>that world, and you didn't interact with him at all.

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<v Speaker 5>Back then. I was just spoking weed, dropping acid, doing

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<v Speaker 5>a bump of coke every now and then. I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>have to go Inland for that. Look, I didn't know

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<v Speaker 5>anything about that kid when he was alive, and after

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<v Speaker 5>he was dead, all I knew was that it was

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<v Speaker 5>another thing my dad was trying to hide.

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing's wrong here.

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<v Speaker 5>Keep sending use of your college kids and credit card numbers,

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<v Speaker 5>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So the murder of Billy boy Reeves was seen as

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<v Speaker 1>unconnected to the murder of Rick Hendrick. He was just

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<v Speaker 1>another junkie who met with a bad end, and for

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<v Speaker 1>a long long time, no one would think about Billy

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<v Speaker 1>boy Reeves at all.

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<v Speaker 2>What we later came to believe, once things played out

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<v Speaker 2>a little further, was that Verra Kendrick's murder was an impulse,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe even accidental. Started off with some drunken grab ass,

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<v Speaker 2>escalated to sexual assault, then rape, and then progressed all

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<v Speaker 2>the way to her being strangled at death. And that

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<v Speaker 2>might have been the end of it, but the killer

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<v Speaker 2>got a taste for it. Maybe it was the power

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<v Speaker 2>he felt taking a life. Maybe it was the simple

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<v Speaker 2>fact he thought he could get away with it. But

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it was, he wanted to try it again. So

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<v Speaker 2>he picked the easiest target he could find, drugged out kid.

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<v Speaker 4>With no family and no future.

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<v Speaker 2>In time, what I learned was that the murder of

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<v Speaker 2>Billy Boy Reeves it was practice. Billy Boy was chosen,

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<v Speaker 2>he was hunted. The killer made a plan and followed

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<v Speaker 2>it to the letter. And when he was done, he

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<v Speaker 2>discarded Billy Boy like he was nothing, threw him in

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<v Speaker 2>a dumpster, a human.

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<v Speaker 1>Being except to the Domino Beach killer, he wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>human being. None of his victims were. Just look at

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<v Speaker 1>the lyrics he chose to write near the bodies. For Vera,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Polly wants a Cracker. Yes, the song is

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<v Speaker 1>from the point of view of a rapist, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>on the surface. Dig deeper and we see he was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to diminish her humanity, comparing Vera his Polly to

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<v Speaker 1>a parrot. And with Billy Boy Reeves, it was just

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<v Speaker 1>say no to individuality, as if Billy Boy wasn't an

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<v Speaker 1>individual at all, just something to be picked up, used

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<v Speaker 1>and discarded. And the killer wasn't the only one who

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<v Speaker 1>saw them as less than human. Two homeless teenagers found

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<v Speaker 1>dead and roughly eight months, within five miles of each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and no one seemed to care. It wasn't even as

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<v Speaker 1>if Councilman Langford covered things up he didn't have to.

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<v Speaker 1>No one wanted to believe anything was wrong in Paradise.

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<v Speaker 1>No one wanted to believe something like that could happen

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<v Speaker 1>to them or their sons and daughters. But things were

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<v Speaker 1>about to escalate. Sheriff Stokes was right. The murder of

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Boy Reeves was practice, and if the killer learned anything,

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<v Speaker 1>it was that he wanted to take things much, much further.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened next would shake Domino Beach to its very core.

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<v Speaker 1>The Murder Years is a production of AYR Media and iHeartMedia.

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<v Speaker 1>Executive producer Elisa Rosen for AYR Media. Written by Tim Huddleston,

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<v Speaker 1>directed by Alisa Rosen, Editing and sound designed by Tristan Bankston,

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<v Speaker 1>Consulting producer Jean Chandil coordinator Olive Goldberg. Audio engineering and

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<v Speaker 1>mastering by Justin Longerbean studio engineer Josh Hook. Original music

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<v Speaker 1>by Nathan Bankston. Original concept developed in partnership with Anne

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<v Speaker 1>Margaret Johns and Greg Spring. Executive producer for iHeartMedia, Maya Howard.

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<v Speaker 1>Performances for this episode by Erica Leniac as Courtney Barnes,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Virtue as Sheriff Damon Stokes, Alex Salem as connor

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<v Speaker 1>Langford melon faxis as Maya morales