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Speaker 3: Listen. I'm glad George Pickens understands his value. I hope

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Speaker 3: be like, Oho, go to hell, shut up, he's a cowboy.

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Speaker 3: mister Mullagett is not playing. He You're not gonna play

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Speaker 3: I rarely speak out of your team, but this is

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's gonna have a choice in

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Speaker 1: Franchise him and hopes to get an extension, a long

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Speaker 2: Cap is gone up.

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Speaker 1: thirty five forty million dollars less than what it is now.

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Speaker 1: With that being said, yes, you saw what I'm capable

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Speaker 2: Now, I just want you to know now, I love

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Speaker 1: Everybody's over welcomed me with open arms. Everybody on the team, Jerry,

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Speaker 1: The fans have been amazing. But I want my money.

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Speaker 1: I won't. I won't what I've earned. This is what

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Speaker 1: let him go.

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Speaker 2: Let him.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we got a draft pick, we got a third

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, O Joe.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say you're truly right,

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Speaker 3: but I'm hoping, which most fans aren't able to do.

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Speaker 3: They're they're not able to compartmentalize the business, you know,

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Speaker 3: that's a part of their team. Of course, you want

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Speaker 3: I'm only saying I would love to see him elsewhere

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Speaker 3: simply because the fact, you know, let's let's let's Cowboys fan.

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Speaker 3: Let's not be the delusional when it comes to how

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Speaker 3: alway does it late. He does it on his time,

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Speaker 3: and the franchise tag most of the time they say,

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Speaker 3: you know what, the franchise tag a gonna buy us

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Speaker 3: a little bit more time to get a deal done. Okay,

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Speaker 3: let's say that's cool. But again, the numbers on his

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Speaker 3: true macro value, what he can get on the open market,

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Speaker 3: if not going to reference that if he stays in Dallas, now,

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Speaker 3: if he is, if George Pickins willing to take a

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Speaker 1: On No, that's a that's a second or third deal. Yes,

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Speaker 1: even when they gave Miles Garrett his money, even when

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Speaker 1: years on this contract. They can't franchise him. Now, I

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Speaker 1: I'm capable of doing. Green Bay like, Okay, yeah, they

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Speaker 2: Uh, it depends on Joe. Yeah, it really depends. Do

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Speaker 1: No, I don't do. I thought of ifact. Do I

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Speaker 3: If it's the open market, he's gonna poll vote no

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's what. But I don't believe.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe he can get what you think he deserves,

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Speaker 1: But but I think I think those two guys handle

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Speaker 3: You didn't just bring somebody else in. You brought a

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Speaker 3: So you can't have two alphas at the same position.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, if I believe he's gonna go north

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Speaker 2: No, he's not. He's going he's gonna leave CD.

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Speaker 1: Because the difference, but the differences between CD. CD had

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Speaker 1: Willing to give up, you know what, I'll take a

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Speaker 1: I mean he's like I want long term security and

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Speaker 1: So that's what we'll see. We'll see me me personally, Ojo.

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Speaker 3: And so because you think, because they have that, you

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be optimistic about Jerry this time.

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Speaker 3: And child, please listen, I love Jerry. And for somebody

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Speaker 3: It should make clear sense. I can't break it down

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Speaker 1: NFL Commissioner Roger Odell said today that the league had

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Speaker 1: Seemed like he was very PC, very political. We don't

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Speaker 3: He's always going to be PC. It's his job. It

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Speaker 3: it's ridiculous that he wasn't voted in and getting those

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Speaker 3: a vote, someone should be able to read go through

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00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 3: the vote and look at it and say, you know what,

436
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I need to see all those who

437
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 3: in favor and said, Nate. When it came to Bill Belichick,

438
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 3: when his name comes across the table of those fifty voters,

439
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 3: and they said Bill Belichick for the Hall of Fame,

440
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 3: it should have been a unanimous decision across the board.

441
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 3: The fact that he didn't go in because of personal

442
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 3: reasons which had nothing to do with his resume and

443
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 3: accolades and what he did on the field, it doesn't matter.

444
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. It's ridiculous.

445
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, I didn't know that Bill Walsh wasn't the

446
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of.

447
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,120
Speaker 2: Famer should have been. I didn't know that.

448
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder why though.

449
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 1: George Halas, Chuck Nol, Tom Landry, Yes, Don Shuler, yeap,

450
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: Vince Lombardi. Those are the five coaches in the history

451
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 1: of coaching in the NFL that have gone in on

452
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: the first ballot. I thought he would I did. I

453
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: did think he would get in. But I knew that

454
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people still hold that spygate, and Spygate

455
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 1: was worse than they let on it was. Now, I'm

456
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 1: not telling you what something. I'm telling you it was.

457
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: There's a reason why they sent those people there and

458
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 1: they destroyed the tape. Don't bring them back, destroy them there.

459
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 2: It was worse.

460
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: And I knew that they were gonna hold that against him,

461
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,959
Speaker 1: but I didn't know that they would keep him out.

462
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: I didn't, you know. I thought, you know, hey, it

463
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,239
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be one hundred percent. Tom Brady gonna get

464
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: probably Peyton Manning got one hundred percent of the vote,

465
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: you know everybody. I mean, he got a hundred. My

466
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: home's gonna get a hundred. I mean some some people

467
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: just like Okay, And I thought that would be Coach

468
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: I thought Coach Belichick would probably get ninety percent of

469
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: the votes. Because there there are some there are some people.

470
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Speaker 1: And again again, o Jo, all those times that Coach

471
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: Belichick was cavalier, he was smugg he was condescending. You're

472
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: being condescending to the people that's gonna have to vote

473
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: for you. We just saw a situation with Tracy Morgan. Now,

474
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: this young man fall on hard fell on hard times.

475
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 1: But when he was younger, you see, Now you see

476
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: how the roles reversed. Yes, and I believe that's what happened.

477
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: And I'm just I'm disappointed, but I'm not as upset

478
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: about Coach Belichick not getting it as I was too

479
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 1: right because they.

480
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 3: Changed the rules.

481
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 1: They didn't change no rules for coach Belichick. You get

482
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 1: through the candidates, you getting to vote for one.

483
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: That's it. They changed the rules to keep t O out.

484
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: And you say, you know what, they dead ass wrong.

485
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: But if you say you know what, O Joe being

486
00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: into the first ballot, you're making wait again, just because, yeah.

487
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: Just because.

488
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 3: And you wonder why you held his own ceremony, and

489
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 3: you wonder why you own ceremony.

490
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 2: I'll never understand that.

491
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: And I don't care, don't don't do that, don't change

492
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: the Oh Joe, you changed the rules to keep me.

493
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm about to win, and you changed the rules. Men, men,

494
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: it wasn't I could see if it was in the

495
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: bylaws before. But now all of a sudden, when t

496
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: O now what you did on the feel on the sidelines,

497
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 1: what you your behavior in the locker rooms.

498
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 2: There were some.

499
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 1: Players that had more egregious behavior off the field than

500
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: t O ever displayed in a locker room or on

501
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: a sideline, right, and it didn't inhibit them from getting

502
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: in on the first ballot. Now I'm gonna go to

503
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: mister Craft and Chad, don't take miss this the wrong way.

504
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell I'm trying to ask you, all

505
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,959
Speaker 1: New Orleans fans. Your owner, mister Benson is in the

506
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Now you tell me what he did

507
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: that's so much greater than what mister Craft has done

508
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: that warrant him getting in before mister Craft.

509
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: M But I will leave that alone. I've already.

510
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: Oh yo, the NFL ain't pleased with me right now,

511
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna leave that alone.

512
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 2: But I know how he got it.

513
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 3: They're not pleased with you.

514
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: They're not pleased with me right now with what you did.

515
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 2: What you did, are that I ain't do nothing. I

516
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: ain't do nothing. I ain't do nothing.

517
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 3: Oh well, you know, listen to anybody that that got

518
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 3: a problem with you, then they got a problem with me,

519
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 3: send them on my way. I deal with them.

520
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: So that's that's I mean, that's that's the issue. I mean,

521
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: you look at some of these owners that's gotten in.

522
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: The man brought the team. If I'm not mistaken, in

523
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three, they went to their first Super Bowl.

524
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety six, sineteen ninety six, they've gone to.

525
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: Twelve Super Bowls.

526
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: That's crazy work.

527
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: No other team is going to that many since the

528
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: Super Bowl was instituted, if I'm not mistaken, in nineteen

529
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: sixty six, they went to that many in thirty years.

530
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

531
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Speaker 1: And then when you factor in how many times they

532
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: lost their age. So think about it. He's on the

533
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: team for about thirty three years. They've lost three AFC

534
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: Championship games to the Broncos and the Coats, so that'll

535
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: have been fifteen. So they've been about one in every

536
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: other year. You can count on the Patriots being an

537
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game in about one. In two point two

538
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: years they're in the super Bowl. Yeah, and that can't

539
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: get that man in the Hall of Fame again.

540
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: Too much power, too much power, and then when you

541
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 3: had that kind of power you abuse. It would never

542
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 3: get him people to satisfaction. Please, So and that's.

543
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: What I'm looking.

544
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, hold on, I look, everybody, every man has

545
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: a flaw, every every every individual has a flaw. Nobody

546
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: is perfect, and the mister Kraft has flaws. But we're

547
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: basing it on We're not saying how flaw the individual lives.

548
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: We're basing it on his resume and what he's done

549
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: and what he's added to that because he's a contribute.

550
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: What what has he added to the National Football League

551
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: based on what his teams have been able to do?

552
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: Now are you holding? Are you holding? Spygate and the Flaygate.

553
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: I can assure he ain't have nothing to do with it.

554
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: He don't know nothing. Coach Bella check had him throw,

555
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: had him frozen out. They're diametrically opposed. They're so opposite

556
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: to each other. Yeah, they're so opposite.

557
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: Hey, you ain't got to tell me. I know that.

558
00:27:59,119 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: I know that.

559
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: It's uh, mister Craft is more and and I don't.

560
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna get in. We'll know Thursday,

561
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: whether or not he gets in or not. I'm hoping.

562
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: I like mister Craft. He's always been great to me.

563
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: He's always been great to me. Every time I see him,

564
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: he give you a hug. I will those shoes. I

565
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: wanted the Air Force ones that he have, all the

566
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: the Lombardy trophies on the tongue.

567
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 2: I hit him up.

568
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: I said, mister Craf got his secondary and he had him,

569
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: had him call me back and asked what size do

570
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: I wear? And he sent me He's probably sent me

571
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: two pair. I don't bother him that much because you know,

572
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: sometimes o't Joe when you when when you ask people

573
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: for things, they expect favorite they expect, you know, the

574
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: Curry favorite. You don't say things. But at the end

575
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: of the day, I got to do my job. And

576
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: if somebody's right, somebody's right. If somebody's wrong, there's somebody's wrong.

577
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: And I got in trouble with CBS because who do

578
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: they play. I'm trying to think who they played. I

579
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: forget who they played, and they ended up losing. It

580
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: might have been it might have been the Coats. It

581
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: might have been the Coats. And you know, o yoh

582
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: when you lose. The coach always I saw Rex Ryan

583
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: do it. I saw Tony Duney do it. I've seen

584
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: so many. I've seen so many coaches in front of

585
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: the media and tell what happened. But no coach Belichick.

586
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: He would send guys, you ain't never heard of. I'm

587
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: talking about special I'm not talking about Matthew Slatter. I'm

588
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: talking about Special Team.

589
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: Got it. You're like, I was like, Nah, that ain't right.

590
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: I said, and I said it. I said it on

591
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: air chat. Y'all go pull it up. I say, Coach

592
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: Belichick makes it real easy for you to root against

593
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: the Patriot. It's because of this type of behavior with

594
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: every other coach that's feeling the same emotions of losing

595
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: that their dreams, that their team is not gonna be

596
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: able to advance, and they have to go stand outside

597
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: of the locker room and face the media now all

598
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: of a sudden, because you got a couple of Super

599
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: Bowl you too big for that. You're better than that.

600
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: Couldn't I couldn't get along with that. I could never.

601
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: I've never, I'm never, I'm never. And uh. But all

602
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: that being said, I still think he should have been

603
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: gotten in on the first ballot. Yeah, so there ain't

604
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: gonna be no coach getting on the first ballot.

605
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you put Andy in on the first ballot.

606
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: You know, they've showed you. They do what they want

607
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 3: to do on They showed you and they don't care

608
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 3: nothing about the backlash. They don't care. We're in power,

609
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: we're in control. Yeah, we're gonna pick and choose again.

610
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: That's that's part of the power dynamic that they have.

611
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 3: If we want Andy to go in on the first ballot,

612
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: we're gonna put him on the first ballot. You know what,

613
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 3: we don't like Belichick, were not letting.

614
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: No, no, no, But but oh Joe, you know how

615
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: some people make it real easy for you to root

616
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: against them for make it real either for you not

617
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: to like him.

618
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: That's coach Belichick.

619
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: Now, like I said, seeing him outside of when he's

620
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: not in that mode, seeing him at the Pro Bowl

621
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: or seeing him at other functions where he is not

622
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: having to keep that game face on.

623
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: He doesn't have to keep that story. Look, he's unbelievable.

624
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: Different person, He's unbelievable.

625
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, different person. But that it's not a popularity contest.

626
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: It's not about whether I like you or whether I don't.

627
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: That's what you got to say.

628
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: It was about when they lost the AFC Championship Game

629
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: to Baltimore. That's what happened when they lost to Baltimore

630
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: that year. It was just like I just but I mean,

631
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: there's nothing, there's there's like I said, the nf it's

632
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: not the NFL Hall of Fame, it's the Pro Football

633
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, yes, sir, and and but that's what

634
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: happens when it's subjective. It's kind of like judge, see

635
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: if you saying Boat. It ain't gonna never go to

636
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: the judges. But when you're doing platform diving, you're doing gymnastics.

637
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: What it's subjective. You got judges, You got the Romanian judge.

638
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: They might think since a ten, you got the Bulgarian

639
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: or the Belaruche the Belarusian judge. Right, I think it's

640
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: a nine point three. We saw two different things. Right, well,

641
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: I ain't got to see nothing. I saw you say,

642
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: Boat crossed the line first, That's what I saw. He

643
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: the winner. It's just, hey, look I think these things.

644
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm old enough to remember all these

645
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: guys I saw the Probably the last I remember Roger Craig.

646
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: Roger Craig was from Nebraska, so I remember. I remember Roger.

647
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: He's the first guy to catch four thousand and rush

648
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: four thousand in the same season.

649
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 2: In nineteen eighty five.

650
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, I remember Ken Anderson, your quarterback

651
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: from the Cincinnati Bengal won the MVP. He lost in

652
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl to the forty nine Ers in Detroit.

653
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: When it was played, the game was played at the

654
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: Silver Dog or the Poniac Silver Dome. I don't know

655
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: if you remember the Silver Dome. Yeah, since toward it

656
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: down and I remember l C. Greenwood number sixty eight.

657
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: He legit now sometimes on show. You know how idea

658
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: is when you play with other great players, sometimes it can.

659
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: Diminish your shine.

660
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: You're playing with me and Joe Green a two time

661
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, Jack Lambert Defensive Player of

662
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: the Year, Meil Blunt defensive player of the Year. They

663
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: changed the game for Mail because Mail was so physical.

664
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: Mail was six three six four two o five. He

665
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: was literally jamming receivers down in the field, throwing him

666
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: out of the incidental contact. No, that's him, that's Mail Blunt.

667
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: So when you got all of those ELC because Joe

668
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: Green mean Joe.

669
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: You got a thing that mean Joe.

670
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody with the commercial, the co commercial here can't

671
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: catch So a lot of these guys overshadowed l SE.

672
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: But for the longest l C was He was the

673
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: leading Sacer before James Ason broke his record. And they

674
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: had some great players on that team. Kevin Green, they

675
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: had Jason Gilden, they had Pasy, They've had g Lloyd

676
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: Greg Yeah, Mike Merriweather, they had they had some really

677
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: good line The Steelers have always been known for linebackers.

678
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: So they've had some really great players on that team.

679
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: I mean, look at all the defensive players of the

680
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: year they had. Rod Woodson was a defensive player of

681
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: the year. Trail Polamla was a defensive player of the year.

682
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: James Hanson No, I don't believe no team has had

683
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: more defensive players of the Year than the Pittsburgh State.

684
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 3: They've had some good ones.

685
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: I mean, and they were getting the concerned.

686
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I mean sometimes you might have a guy,

687
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: but you got Joe Green winning one year, then Jack

688
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: Lambert win it the next year, Mail Blunt win it

689
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: the next year, then Joe Green wins it again. You're like,

690
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: come on behind, how But that's how good they were. Yeah,

691
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: but the guy that would lead them in sacks was LC.

692
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: But look like, like like h Rogers said, commission that

693
00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: they'll get in. But i'f something. It's something about you know,

694
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: everybody wants that first ballot because there are so few

695
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,959
Speaker 1: that actually get in on the first ballot. So me, Ojoe, Hey,

696
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: was I disappointed? Yes, because I think I had done

697
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: enough when I left. No tight end can say they

698
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: had all the records, most yards, most catches, most touchdowns,

699
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: most Super.

700
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: Bowls, all pros, Pro Bowls.

701
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: Okay, didn't get in. Didn't get in at that point

702
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: in time. Now, Okay, ain't nothing I not gonna do

703
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: with you. I can't go back out there and get

704
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: no more yards, right, can't.

705
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 2: But uh, I don't.

706
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if I if I could tell coach anything,

707
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: say coach, hey, ain't nothing you could do. You did

708
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: everything that you You did what you were supposed to do,

709
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: which was winning. Now it's up to somebody else to

710
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: do what they're supposed to do, which.

711
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 3: Is put you in Listen knowing Bill.

712
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: Oh it bothering because his confidant says, what do I have?

713
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: So so six super Bowls isn't enough? So he knows

714
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: o Joe because that is it's it's the thing because

715
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: there's so few think of Ojo. When it came to coaches,

716
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: he was one of the hundred. He's uh remember they

717
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: had that that that hundreds anniversary team.

718
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? Who was the coach? Yeah?

719
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 3: I understand what you mean.

720
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: All if if probably if you think about it, Ojoe,

721
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: I don't think Marvin got it.

722
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: Did Marvin has to get him in the first ballot.

723
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: Most of the got John Randall, I think was an

724
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: all player and he didn't get on the first ballot.

725
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: But you're looking at uh uh Joe Green, and you

726
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: look at some of these guys that Marvin got in

727
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: a third year. I don't think Blunt was the first

728
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: ballot with Mail Blunt the first ballot. I don't think

729
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: Mail was the first ballot. Four Super Bowls that had

730
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: to change the rules for it. Joe, Yeah, he was

731
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: first ballot. So it is what it is now, O Joe.

732
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: He ain't knowing we can do. Ain't nothing we can do.

733
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: There ain't gonna be another vote. And everybody, now see

734
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: not everybod it should be known or who voted against

735
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: Coach Belichick, y'all didn't want make that concession for t

736
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: o let us see who voted against to if that's

737
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: what we're doing, is that what we're.

738
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 3: Doing out Chuck, whatever they want to do.

739
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: I'm just checking because they want to make it seem

740
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: like it's so egregious and like to just like, uh,

741
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a few guys. I mean, I

742
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: had a platform at the time I was on I

743
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: was on Undisputed, so I had a platform that I

744
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: can voice it. And I know Skip. That was something

745
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: Skip wanted to talk about. I wanted to talk about

746
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: it as well. I knew where he and just because

747
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: he was on that side of the fence, that doesn't

748
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: mean that we talked about it because he was over

749
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: here and I was over there. I just I'm smack, Dawn.

750
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm old enough to t O came. I was already

751
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: in the league. I was already established and seeing what

752
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: he was able to do, they moved on for Jerry

753
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: for To. Do you understand what I'm saying. Yeah, they

754
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: moved on from the greatest receiver ever for To. Yeah,

755
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: that's how great he was. I don't think people realize

756
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: because you know, you look at how he was going

757
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: at it back and forth on the sideline with the

758
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators or the quarterback coach or maybe some of

759
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: the things that he said about Jeff Garcia and he

760
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: was said about Donovan.

761
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: But I don't think y'all have any idea how great

762
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: t O was.

763
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 3: Oh. I know, I got to see him for eleven

764
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 3: years straight. Ain't got a year to play with him,

765
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 3: so I already.

766
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: Know y'all have no idea how great this man was.

767
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: Great great, He's still only one of three men that

768
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: would have one hundred and fifty plus touchdown catches.

769
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: With a threat anywhere on the.

770
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: Field, smoke route, slant route, could get deep, could run

771
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: the over route and split the scene and hit his

772
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: head on the gold plots. And he was more than

773
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: a willing pretire. But in the run game, block his

774
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: ass off. And I never questioned man t old Slack, Nope,

775
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: you know what you got with t o he gonna

776
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: give it to you every single Sunday.

777
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, o tay ojo.

778
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: One day after the NFL coaching carolself stop with ten

779
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: head coaching jobs field but only one minority candidate, Commissioner

780
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell said the league would take a closer look

781
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: at the Rooney Rue throw it in the trash. I

782
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: think we've become more diverse league across every platform, including coaching,

783
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: but we still have more work to do. There are

784
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: a lot There got to be more steps. We're reevaluating

785
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: everything we're doing, including the Accelerated program, including every aspect

786
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 1: of our policies in our program to meet the challenges

787
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: up today and tomorrow rather than yesterday.

788
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: We need to be looking.

789
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: At and why do we have these results this year

790
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: Goodell said that every team was Rooney Rule compliant in

791
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: the head coaching cycle and that he belie leaves every

792
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: team with a head coach opening exceeded the Rooney Rule

793
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: this year by interviewing more than the requisite to minority candidates.

794
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: Robert Sala, whose Lebanese descent, was the only minority candidate

795
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 1: to land the top job. With no other black head

796
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: coaches hired, it was the fifth time since the Rooney

797
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: Rule was instituted that there were no black head coaches

798
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: were hired during an offseason training cycle. You can put

799
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: all the rules in place that you want to. It

800
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: don't matter who I want to hire.

801
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: My point exactly, I don't know why we keep going

802
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 3: through We keep having to.

803
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: Jump through hoops.

804
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 3: We keep having to jump through hoops, and they keep

805
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 3: showing you we don't want you. They put these rules

806
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: in place just to have something to abide. Bye, here,

807
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 3: here go some rules just to make you happy. Whether

808
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 3: you qualify for the job or not. They don't want

809
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 3: you in those positions, and being leader of men, they

810
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 3: just don't. And the positions that they do give you

811
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 3: is teams that are not that good. And at least

812
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 3: it's gonna be too goddamn short, and you're gonna get fired.

813
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 3: They just like here damn so we can shut everybody up.

814
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 3: If they don't want you in those positions, why do

815
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 3: we continue see fighting, argument, claw and scratch to be

816
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: where they don't want us. I don't understand. We gripe

817
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 3: about the same thing every hiring cycle. Oh no black

818
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: people hired? Oh my god, yet again. Oh, we're surprised

819
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: everything we fuss about the same goddamn thing every goddamn cycle.

820
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: They don't want us in those positions. Why we continue

821
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 3: to try to knock down the door we're not welcome.

822
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 3: My goodness, oh Joe.

823
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: More time than not, when you're dealing, you hire people

824
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: that look like you, talk like you, hang around in

825
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: circles like you, word of mouth, such and such as

826
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: really really good. And that's why they go to the

827
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: senior bold and meeting. Ingle me in my hind, I

828
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 1: don't really do a whole lot. Assay, this is my recommendation.

829
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: I think this is the best person. I don't care

830
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: if you're a woman. I'll if necessary, I'll hire ten

831
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: twelve women, black white. I want the best person for

832
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: the job. Work hard, be on time. That's my only thing.

833
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: I ain't got a whole lot of rules. I mean,

834
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: you ain't got no rules. I mean all the people

835
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: that I see in Jordan, ash everybody else, they live

836
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: where they live. But when it's time with Ay, when

837
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: it's time to do what we need to do, we

838
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: gotta get it done. So I don't care. I don't

839
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: care what your genir is. I don't care what your

840
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: race is. I don't care what your orientation is. I

841
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: don't give it dawn bout any of that. I want

842
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: the best people in the job. Yes, that's it, That's

843
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: all I want on Yo.

844
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, Hey ask then, Hey, you explain to

845
00:42:51,920 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: them what they expected, what you heard them. She told me,

846
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm the only white person on the tee. You had

847
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: them damn Yeah.

848
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: Hey they might, Hey, they might, they might try to

849
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: close me down to but I got too much, d y, Joe,

850
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm the only white person. You hired everybody but Jordan, Yes,

851
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: sixty person's staff. You the only white person? Yes, yes,

852
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: we have how many women? We got two where you

853
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: hired them? But well, theoretically real is our staff too?

854
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: We cat real? So we got three? Ah, but no

855
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: we we we gotta keep fighting on Joe. It's kind

856
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: of Oh Joe, you remember, Oh Joe, you remember how

857
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: it was with in the sixty You were born in

858
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: the sixties.

859
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: But I was there.

860
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 3: I was there, I did homework, I went I went

861
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: to history class. I know, I know what it was like.

862
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,479
Speaker 1: Come on, talk about I think the thing is is that,

863
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: uh is that even though we only got one if

864
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: you if you can considering Robert Sala who's of Lebanese

865
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: descent as a minority, and he is, but just because

866
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: we didn't because think about how many times we got

867
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: turned away in the sixties with the Jim Crow and

868
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 1: God and and and doctor King and so many others

869
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: that kept fighting, kept scratching just to get a hope.

870
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: Because I remember it so vividly.

871
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: My grandfather says, son, you can be anything that you

872
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: want to, but you're never gonna be able to be

873
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: president because they ain't never letting a white man a

874
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: black man in that white house. Okay, I believed it

875
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: too well, considering in two hund fifty years we've only

876
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: had one.

877
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: That are again again, that's one of that's one of

878
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 3: those moments. God damn here, so we can shut you

879
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: all up.

880
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, because because you think about it, old Joe, that

881
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: they always go back back. You had a black president

882
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 1: two terms. Well we've had forty five white presidents.

883
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 3: Oh listen, if someone continuously shows me, continuously over and

884
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 3: over and over and over, we don't want you in

885
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 3: these positions. And when they do, when they do give

886
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: you the opportunity to be in those said positions, it's

887
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: always on the team.

888
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: You going to the Jets, you going to the Arizona

889
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: that don't have a quarterback. You go in places that

890
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback, and they know you cannot wear

891
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 1: long term without a quarterback.

892
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 2: Look at Steve Wils, listen, look at David Kelly.

893
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: David Cully got the job for six months in Houston, Texas.

894
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: Now now they have since a Domico and Dimiko has

895
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: done an unbelievable job. Demico has a quarterback. Look at

896
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: Steve Wills, terrible quarterback fired after one year. Now they

897
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: bring it Cliff Kingsbury, he gets kyler Mer. He's able

898
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: to stay two, three, four years, whatever the case may be.

899
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: So without a quarterback, you're not winning. I don't give

900
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: a damn black, white, yellow, purple, Lebanese Haitian don't matter.

901
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. And listen, I love fighting a good fight.

902
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 3: I always have. I love fighting a good fight because

903
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 3: I've had to fight as well. But I was able

904
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 3: to marsteral to beat in my own drum, you know.

905
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: And I understand the power dynamic when those who do

906
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 3: the hiring, it's none of us. It's none of us

907
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: in there, right. They're not like minded like us. They

908
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: don't see what we see. They view it and are

909
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: more comfortable going with those that look like them. It

910
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: has always been like that, and it will always be

911
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 3: like that. And I just don't like the fact that

912
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 3: we cry and we holler every time my hiring cycle

913
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 3: comes around and say, oh, none of us got hired. Well,

914
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 3: no fucking shit, they don't want us in those positions.

915
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: Well, we're not in a position we're in the first

916
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: of all, they're not a lot of us in the

917
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: position of hiring the head coach.

918
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 3: Can I ask your question, yes, how many of us

919
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 3: our owners?

920
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 2: None?

921
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 3: How many of us are in position to do the

922
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 3: hiring in general?

923
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to think, maybe uh, the.

924
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: Guy uh Detroit, maybe the guy Ryan Poles uh in Chicago.

925
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm trying to trying to think of

926
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: black gems.

927
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: Holmes.

928
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: I think Holmes is the guy in Detroit, poses the

929
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: guy in Chicago. Off the top of my head, oh, Joe,

930
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: I can't think of any others. Uh, mensa got relieved

931
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: of his duties.

932
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 2: So off the top of my head, I can't. I can't,

933
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: I can't, I can't. But we ain't giving up on yo.

934
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you know, I mean, hey, hold on,

935
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: hold on, hold on, hold on, listen. You don't have

936
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 3: to give up, because they gonna listen every every blue moon,

937
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 3: they're gonna be They're gonna give you a well, damn

938
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 3: here you go every just to shut everybody up. That's

939
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 3: what they continue to do. Damn here, y'all go shut up.

940
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: That's what they do every time.

941
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: And we all in Cleveland. Who Andrew Barry in Cleveland?

942
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 3: Ah?

943
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I get it. It's just tough. When

944
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: you talk about the league that's seventy percent. I think

945
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: the NBA. The NBA, you see a lot of black coaches.

946
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: It's always been that way.

947
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 3: Oh that's a different ball game over there. That's a

948
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 3: completely different ball game over there in the NBA. Do

949
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 3: you think it would ever look like the NBA will

950
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 3: ever look like the absolutely not, because those who are

951
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 3: in position to do are hiring, are hiring those like them.

952
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 3: And matter of fact, what happens is when their coaches

953
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 3: get fired, You're always gonna have a job somewhere else. Always,

954
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 3: once you come from that tree, if the branch breaks,

955
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 3: you're good. I got you.

956
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: Look at it.

957
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 3: Look it's been going on the same exact way. Coaches

958
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 3: that have had no success at other places get a

959
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: job like this right away, right away, they do.

960
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: Right away.

961
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 3: And the black coaches that have had constant success look

962
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 3: at the teams that they had at their disposal. Mike

963
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 3: Tomlin eighteen nineteen years.

964
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: He probably could have some more years if he would have,

965
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: if he could have parlayed like Okay, Roethlisberger. Roethlisberger is

966
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 1: getting old, not carrying about upsetting.

967
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: Robins and having a quarterback in place at it.

968
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: I think Green Bay gave you the perfect example. You

969
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: can't be afraid to piss off because Okay, if I

970
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: don't piss off bread fa and I don't draft Aaron Rodgers,

971
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm in purgatory. Yeah no, I ain't in purgatory. I'm

972
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: in hell. Purgatory is in between head and hell.

973
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: You're in hell. Yeah, But guess what.

974
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: You piss off Brett Farv and you draft Aaron Rodgers,

975
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: and now you got a bridge for eighteen years. Right, Okay,

976
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: you piss off Aaron Rodgers and you draft Jordan Love,

977
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: Now you got a bridge.

978
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: They didn't do that in Pittsburgh.

979
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that they tried to piece They tried to

980
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: piece it with with with with a Mason Rudolph and

981
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 1: and and and Cody Pickett, and and and and and

982
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: Justin Fields. It's just not gonna work, man.

983
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, it's it's hard.

984
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 4: I love.

985
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 3: I love the good fight that we talk about. I

986
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 3: love that we want us in positions of power. I

987
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 3: love that we want us being leaders of men and

988
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 3: being head coaches the football teams. But the situations that

989
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 3: they give us, the opportunities that they give us are

990
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 3: not ideal. They're not ideal. And most of the time

991
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 3: your lease is short, maybe two maybe three years at

992
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 3: most at best, and after that that's it. That's it.

993
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I agree, you're not You're not gonna

994
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: get anythings we can't give up.

995
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 3: Oh no, huh, I just said and say give up.

996
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 3: I'm just telling the bullshit they're doing, and they're doing

997
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: it right in our face. Yeah, they got all these

998
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 3: they listen, they got all these rules in place and

999
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 3: all this all this performative bull drive that make it

1000
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 3: seem like they really come on, man, they playing right

1001
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 3: in our face. Ah, well, we have rules set in place.

1002
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 3: Well we we we we we we we. We interviewed him,

1003
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 3: you know, he just wasn't qualified for us to get there.

1004
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 3: Most of the time we overqualified for the job, and

1005
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 3: they still gonna hire they friend anyway. True, at that

1006
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: point it's all on who you know.

1007
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: Right, But that's the thing, like for the cowboys, I

1008
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: ain't even going there. You ain't putting no black men,

1009
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: no head coach. So I ain't even go into there.

1010
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: He tried to have Marvin Lewis coming there. He knows that,

1011
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: I mean, just just to meet the Rooney rule. He

1012
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: ain't gonna hire no Marvin Lewis. He ain't hird, no

1013
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: black guy, not. So I ain't even interviewing for that one.

1014
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: Unless you want a free trip. You want a free

1015
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: trip on the private jet and you go to see Dallas.

1016
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: You got some relatives in Dallas, Hey, I'm coming in.

1017
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: I'm an interview for the Cowboy job. Hey, I'm gonna

1018
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: let's let's go to dinner, so for and so on.

1019
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: But other than that, I'm not interviewing.

1020
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: No, Dallas, Oh, I really can't say what I want

1021
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 3: to say. And I love topics like this, I really do.

1022
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 3: When most of the time you think you know, I

1023
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 3: play around a lot, I entertain, I have jokes that

1024
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 3: make I make fun of a lot of stuff. But

1025
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 3: you can tell what my voice and my tone is.

1026
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 3: I hate the game that they play and the fact

1027
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 3: that people can't see the game that they play instead

1028
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 3: of peeling back all the layers on how they do

1029
00:52:54,719 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 3: us purposely. No, you don't, don't worry about it. I want,

1030
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 3: I want. I want to piss off the wrong people.

1031
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 3: It's all a game. It's all a game, and I'm

1032
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 3: not sure how we can't see it. If we continue arguing,

1033
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 3: then you say, oh, oh, show you are the problem. No,

1034
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 3: I'm not the fucking problem, because I'm not in a

1035
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 3: position to be doing the goddamn hired Because I.

1036
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: No, I do know we might be we are the

1037
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: problem because we keep bringing it up. We're just not

1038
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: in a position to be the solution that I and

1039
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 1: y'all keep talking about, Oh, qualified, qualified, qualified. I don't

1040
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: know if y'all noticed, but there are a lot of

1041
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: people that's important positions today, that's running a lot of

1042
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: stuff that ain't qualified and be qualified.

1043
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 3: And let me ask you a question, and how are

1044
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 3: they getting no jobs? Come on, man, come on non.

1045
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, the people that I knew, Yes, it's easy as

1046
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 1: a did I think, ask you do the job?

1047
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 2: Yes? Would this job ever open to anybody else?

1048
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: No? No, it wasn't. I ain't finished. It didn't fly

1049
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: to you. CJ, my producer at club Shay Shape. I

1050
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: knew CJ. I worked with CJ and Fox. Was that

1051
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: job opening anyone else? No, that's how it works. Eighty

1052
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: five percent of the jobs are never listed. Hey, O Joe, man,

1053
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: they've got a job opening over here. You know somebody

1054
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 1: looking for a job. Yeah now that you mentioned, Yeah, yeah, okay,

1055
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: help him to give me a call.

1056
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 4: Hey, it's all the game, man, Yeah, it's all again.

1057
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 2: And some look and I get it. O Joe.

1058
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: We had this situation last year and you and I

1059
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: we both felt bad for drawing mail, but I said,

1060
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: give him the choice. Gerard mao or Mike Brabel. You're

1061
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: hiring Mike Rabel, You just are I mean, look, now

1062
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna get paid. I mean I don't know. I

1063
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: think he's signed a five year deal, so he's gonna

1064
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: get his money for the next five years.

1065
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 2: If i'm him, I ain't. I'm done coaching.

1066
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 1: All my staff A y'all can find your job if

1067
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: you want to, but I ain't.

1068
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 2: I'm fen to raise these kids.

1069
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: Philip lit Like I said, Philip Rivers never caught.

1070
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers got an interview with the Buffalo Bills with

1071
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: the Buffalo.

1072
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 3: Pills didn't Byron Leftence coach coach super Bowl team? Didn't

1073
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,240
Speaker 3: Byron Leftwich coach a super Bowl winning team. He did,

1074
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 3: But Philip Rivers got off the couch from coaching the

1075
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 3: high school team, came in, played a few games, hurt himself,

1076
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 3: and when the CEA ended, he still got an interview.

1077
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 2: With who the Buffalo Bills.

1078
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 3: Man, it's a game, man, I mean, how are y'all?

1079
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 2: Are y'all? I'll be paid? And what did a year?

1080
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: It was a year after he had called plays for

1081
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl winning team. He was He wasn't even

1082
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: the offensive cordinertor no more. He was out of the league.

1083
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, he's on time staff at CEU.

1084
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 3: It's right there in your face. It's right there in

1085
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 3: your face. They keep playing the game, and we keep

1086
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 3: falling forward with the same rhetoric. Every time I hire

1087
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 3: a cycle comes along. Oh they didn't hire none. Let

1088
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 3: me grab a rebod.

1089
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 2: Please, Hey, y'all keep feeling it.

1090
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: I just want to know, do y'all think that a

1091
00:56:55,600 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: guy that's never called plays, that's never coached, that looks

1092
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 1: like oh, Cho and I will get an opportunity for

1093
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: a head coaching interview in the NFL.

1094
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 3: Oh, keep fighting, keep fighting, keep fighting, keep fighting.

1095
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 2: I want to I want you to. I want you

1096
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 2: to tell me.

1097
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: Do y'all think someone that looks like oh cho and I,

1098
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: that's never called plays in the NFL, never called at

1099
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: the collegiate level we're coaching high school football would get

1100
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: an opportunity to go interview for a head coaching job.

1101
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: In the NFL.

1102
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 3: Playing the game right in your face, let.

1103
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: Me say asking it.

1104
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: It's a simple yes or simple no, like come on, man,

1105
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: and and and Philip Rivers might be qualified, but somebody

1106
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: might be qualified. But if you don't give them an opportunity,

1107
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: you won't ever know. That's what we're saying. I remember,

1108
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, the league doing it wouldn't let people like oh,

1109
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: you and I n They couldn't think and they couldn't

1110
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: do this. First of all, you couldn't play the center position.

1111
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: You could play a running back, you could be a

1112
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver, you could be a dB, but you couldn't

1113
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: play center because you had to make the line calls.

1114
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 2: You couldn't play quarterback. That was forgiven.

1115
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: Think about how many guys quarterbacks in college and they

1116
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: had to trade they had to move to wide receiver,

1117
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: running back or dB. Wasn't until it wasn't until Doug

1118
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: Willims won the Super Hold on you.

1119
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 2: Mean to tell where they could win the Super Bowl?

1120
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: Well, I better go get me one. That's how it's

1121
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: copycat league, oyoe. And then you start seeing it happen

1122
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: with greater regularity. Russ Win and my homeboy went two

1123
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: A three Jalen Hurts winning level. They are, Okay, we

1124
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: might be on to something. Now we have more black

1125
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks in the NFL than at any point in

1126
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: time in the history of the NFL. All because why

1127
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: someone gave one an opportunity.

1128
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you gotta make special provisions.

1129
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 3: No, no.

1130
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: No, give me a chance.

1131
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the game itself has evolved and more suited

1132
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 3: to those that are a little bit more athletic, to

1133
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 3: those that are a little bit more that are dual threats,

1134
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 3: you know. So again that's another reason why more opportunities

1135
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 3: are being suited in case for those that look like us.

1136
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: And they talk my own something, Man, you're gonna have to,

1137
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: like I don't know who well, I mean, I mean,

1138
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: the the the Seahawks are probably gonna sell for seven

1139
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: seven and a half billion dollars, maybe even eight.

1140
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: So you're gonna have to You're gonna have to.

1141
00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: Look, you're gonna have to get a lot of people, Oprah,

1142
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: Robert Smith, Jay Z. You'll have to get some people

1143
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 1: to a what y'all, what y'all try to do? Because

1144
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: the price is not coming down, Ojoe, I mean seven

1145
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: and a half. I mean the Washington Commanders just sold

1146
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: for six billion. That was two years ago. Now the

1147
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: price is about to be seven seven and a half,

1148
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: maybe even eight in two years.

1149
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a different game.

1150
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,959
Speaker 1: Stephen Ross said someone offered him fifteen billion.

1151
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: For the Dolphins.

1152
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: He said yes because the NFL teams print money.

1153
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 2: They print money.