1 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: It's time for the b a q a A b 2 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: a q a which your sir be a. 3 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: Q eight with man day, let me be a q 4 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: a tip a. Let me be a q a A. 5 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 3: Hey man, you know what, we just did the same 6 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 3: we're doing that far twin thing. We did the head 7 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: at the same time. Oh man, you can't teach that 8 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: kind of choreography. 9 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: Either guy, or you don't. 10 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 3: Hello, all right, what's up? B a fam Hey Tiffany, 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: I'm excited for b a q A. You got some 12 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 3: juicy questions you guys. If you want to semitic question, 13 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: you can go to Brand Ambition Podcast on i G 14 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 3: and slide into our d MS, or you can mail 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: us directly at Brandanambispodcast at gmail dot com dot com. 16 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: And oh yeah, we need to do the don't sue us? 17 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: Oh yes, so here's the thing. 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: This is for entertainment purposes, Holy Solemn, which means like child, 19 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: do not sue us because you got to reach out 20 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: to your doctor, yoloya, your financial advisor. We're not none 21 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: of those things, which is two super cut brown girls 22 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: on the interwebs just talking our talk, you know, not 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: giving advice, just talking and giving a little entertainment aka 24 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: Sue your Grandma not us. 25 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: Thank you? 26 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: All right, let's jump on in here. Instagram user Jalisa 27 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: says I love the show, keep them coming, please and 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 3: thank you. 29 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: Question? 30 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: Is it smart to have a home equity line of 31 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: credit on standby in the event that you need it? 32 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: We bought our house almost three years ago, and I'm 33 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 3: not sure that we have a ton of equity just yet, 34 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: but I heard a financial advisor on IG talking about it. 35 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: Thoughts love y'all. 36 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: Well all those IG advisors. 37 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: Wow, maybe it was someone really good. But yeah, I 38 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: actually I actually am considering doing just that. 39 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: So okay, well let's tell the people what is a 40 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: he lock. 41 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: A home equity line of credit is basically turning the 42 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: equity in your home into a piggybank. But don't get 43 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 3: a twisted it is a loan. And it took me 44 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 3: ages to sort of like understand what a second mortgage was. 45 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 3: This is a second mortgage because you are taking out 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: a loan against the value of your home. But the 47 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: specific thing here is that it's the value of your 48 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: home minus your loan balance. So like, if you have 49 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: one hundred thousand dollars of equity in your home. Meaning 50 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: if you owe one hundred thousand dollars on your loan, 51 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: but your home is appraised for two hundred thousand dollars, 52 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: that means you have one hundred thousand dollars of equity. 53 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: And the other thing didn't understand about a home equity 54 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 3: line of credit specifically, because there is such thing as 55 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: just a home equity loan, which is when you will 56 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: get a lump pay, a lump sum deposit of like, okay, 57 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: we're going to give you, like, let's say again, your 58 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 3: equity is one hundred thousand dollars. Lenders will some of 59 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: them may give you up to like eighty percent of 60 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: yours of your equity as a lump sum, but it 61 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: can vary by lender. But let's say it's eighty thousand dollars. 62 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: You can get that as a one lump sum payment. 63 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 3: A home equity line of credit is you'll have that 64 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: eighty thousand dollars available to you to use, and you'll 65 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: have something called a draw period, which is basically how 66 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: much time during this time window of time I think 67 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: it's like five to ten years something like that, where 68 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: you can actually use that line of credit like a 69 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: credit card to pay for things around your house, whether 70 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: it's home upgrades, consolidating debt, buying a car, whatever it 71 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: may be. You can use the money for whatever you want. 72 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 3: They're also usually a lot lower, lot less expensive than 73 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: credit card dead or other forms of borrowing because and 74 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: this is the big thing, your home is securing it. 75 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: So the same with your first mortgage on your home. 76 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: If you default on your payment for that loan, you 77 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: could lose your home. So on the flip side of that, 78 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: because the bank knows they're going to get something, they 79 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 3: leave in here with something you don't. Yes, they're leaving 80 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: there with something, and that's something is going to be 81 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: the roof over your head. So they give you a 82 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 3: cheaper interest rate. And I'm not surprised that she saw 83 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 3: someone talking about it because so many homeowners like me 84 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: who are stuck in a starter home but have a 85 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 3: lot of equity. You know, it is an attractive option 86 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 3: to sign up for a home equity line of credit. 87 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 3: You don't have to use it all at one time, 88 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: but you have access to it like this, like Jalisa 89 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: has said, and Tiffany, as you pointed out, in harder 90 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 3: economic times, it may not be banks may not be 91 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: as willing to loan to offer helocks, so. 92 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: Because they know the girl is going to be like, ah, 93 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: let me go to my house, which is like a piggybank. 94 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: So I'll share with you what my financial advisor, an Jelie, 95 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: said she'd asked me. 96 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: She said, Tiviny, do you want to go ahead and 97 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,559 Speaker 2: get a helock? Think about it? And I was like why. 98 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: She said, well, bird on the street is you know, 99 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: the people are worried about an upcoming recession, and when 100 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: that happens, banks oftentimes take heelocks off the table because 101 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: they know a lot of homeowners leaning on them, and 102 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: oftentimes they lean in on them when they need it 103 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: the most, which means you're likely not to be able 104 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: to afford to pay it back. So she said, if 105 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: you think that you might need access, but I had 106 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: a year's worth of emergency savings saved, so she was like, 107 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: it's not something I'm suggesting, just something they could think about. 108 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: If you think that you might need access to additional income, 109 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: your additional money, you can get one holded and that way, 110 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: if something really bad happens, you have this money. But 111 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: because you have a year's worth of emergency savings, essentially 112 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: you have your emergency saving. Just wanted to put that 113 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: out there because you also have to remember that oftentimes 114 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: there are variable interest rates, which means the interest you know, 115 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: the percentage that you pay on what you borrow, can 116 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: go up and down. And then you know, and here's 117 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: the thing. Sometimes there's closing costs and fees. So it's 118 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: not just like you know a. 119 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 3: Lot of time there are I mean, it's just like 120 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: when I saw I got a quote from a lender, 121 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: and when I saw that, I was like, oh, this 122 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 3: is this really is another mortgage, like the same stuff 123 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: points and closing and origination costs, and yeah, it felt 124 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 3: like that, and I'm like, oh, this is not just 125 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: a casual little. 126 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: Yes, it's not something. 127 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: So it's really if here's what I would say, like, 128 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: you know, something to consider. If you're like, you know what, 129 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: we bought this house, it's probably worth significantly more. 130 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: I am a little bit worried about the job market, 131 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: you know what. 132 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: Let me have this kind of like and I can 133 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: trust myself not to just use it. Let me have 134 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: this like money, this credit set aside that if something 135 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: happens in the next couple of years, we'll have some 136 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: money to kind of see ourselves through or if you're 137 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: someone who because there's some like even tax benefits. If 138 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: you're like, yo, we want to like renovate, they have 139 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: to make it even better depending how you use your 140 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: your your he lock. The interest may be deductible if 141 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: you use it to buy, build, or sustainably improve your home. 142 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: And it requires a loan, so there might be some 143 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: some tax benefits there too. 144 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: Just something to think about. There's no right or wrong, 145 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: just information to make the right choice for you. 146 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a quote from a lender. It's better 147 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: dot com. It's an online lender. It's just one of 148 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: the easiest ones to get a nice little quote from 149 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: if you're just curious what you might qualify for it 150 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: so soft credit check. So I recommend playing around. But 151 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: then you got to remember they're going to call you 152 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: up every five minutes after you put in that. Okay, 153 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: so put the there's a there's a special setting on 154 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 3: your phone. Unrecognized numbers get sent to voicemail just preparing you. 155 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: Sorry to Jonathan for you're doing a great job, but 156 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: I don't want to talk yet. The rate that I 157 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: was quoted was eight point eight seventy five percent. Well, 158 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: that's one like market rates are in these days, is it? 159 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: I thought mortgage? Wait, they're not under seven percent? 160 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I wonder like what the differences 161 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 3: between like what tends to be the difference between like 162 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: a traditional like but they're both thirty year mortgages. But 163 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: again that's based on my un my husband and my's 164 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: unique financial situation. Are credit scores all of that. So 165 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: I'm just sharing what my information is. And I haven't 166 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: yet gotten a second quote, So Jonathan, chill out, okay, 167 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: because I'm not. 168 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: It's its average luck rates between eight and ten percent. 169 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it also matters how much you're borrowing. 170 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: And this is just based on I think what does 171 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: it say? Sixty five thousand dollars would be the line 172 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 3: of credit. So that's based on that amount. And you can, 173 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 3: just like a traditional mortgage, you can choose is it 174 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: thirty year, fifteen whatever? Is it adjustable rate? Is it 175 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: fixed rate? This is a fixed sorry, this is an 176 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 3: adjustable rate. And the hope, I mean my hope would be, uh, 177 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: you know, as the Fed continues lowering rates, which they're 178 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 3: trending in that direction, that maybe the rate wouldn't be 179 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: going up, but I don't know that's the rate right now. 180 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: On average, at least in the state of New Jersey 181 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: is like seven point three percent for thirty and six 182 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: point three four fifteen. 183 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: So slightly higher. 184 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, you know yourself, if you're like yo, 185 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm in this position, you're a nurse chod or you 186 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: are never going to be un a bluid. But maybe 187 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: you're in a position where during the last procession or 188 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: downturn you were let go and you know you have 189 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, a job that kind of tends to do 190 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: that or a career that tends to do that. You 191 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: might want to say, you know what, let's prepare ahead 192 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: of time. So that was a really great question. 193 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: Helock, excellent. Just compare your rates, y'all, shop around. Keep 194 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: Jonathan at bay All right, next question. 195 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: We gotta take a quick break. 196 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I got excited. Yeah, quick break. 197 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: And we're back. So what is our next question? Because 198 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: you said it was in the DMS, right. 199 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: Oh no, oh, no, I made it up. That's right. 200 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 3: So oh, this is a great time to plug the 201 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 3: brand Ambition listener survey. Y'all, please go to the show notes. 202 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: It's going to be a link to our survey there, 203 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 3: or you can go to brand Ambition podcast dot com. 204 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 3: At the very top of the page is a blue, 205 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 3: bluish greenish banner that says, twenty twenty four listener survey. 206 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: We haven't done one in a hot minute. I love 207 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 3: doing surveys because y'all leave such thoughtful feedback. And anyway, 208 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: based on that initial survey results hot off the presses, 209 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: we have about one hundred and fifty responses so far, 210 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: and I wasn't surprised, but I was like, Okay, we're 211 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 3: going to continue talking about this topic. A large percentage 212 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: of our audience is struggling with credit card debt and 213 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 3: housing costs, So paying down debt. Out of the seven 214 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 3: different sources of financial stress that we have here, housing costs, childcare, food, transportation, 215 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: paying down debt was number one, with sixty four percent 216 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 3: of listeners saying that was their biggest source of financial stress, 217 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 3: and which was way more than any other topic. Housing 218 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: costs was a distant second with forty five percent. So 219 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 3: because of that, and because we're heading into the holiday season, 220 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 3: because Tiffany and gonna be here for November, we have 221 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: to get her now right, we have to do a 222 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 3: little talk about holiday spending when you are also navigating 223 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: debt and I want some real tea real advice for listeners, 224 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: because I know y'all are probably feeling like I am, 225 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 3: like I still got to get these legos. So what 226 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: do we do? 227 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: Well, here's some of the things that I recommend is that, like, literally, 228 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: it sounds like silly, but you really do have to 229 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: make a list, like making a list, chegging it twice, 230 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,119 Speaker 1: gonna find out if you know or not anyway, so truthfully, 231 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: like if you know, okay, I'm gonna buy presents, irregardless. 232 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 2: I know that's not a real word, but we're black. 233 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: Why is it? My present is re god list? 234 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: So then I want you to do it within parameters. 235 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: I want you to say, Okay, I am willing to 236 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: spend five hundred, six hundred one thousand whatever that is. 237 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: That is within the parameters of although I have dead 238 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm willing to do this. 239 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:19,479 Speaker 2: And one of the best. 240 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: Ways to stay within those parameters, quite honestly, is to 241 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: not go. 242 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 2: To the store. The store is. 243 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: Lack because when you go to the store, you're like, oh, oh, oh. 244 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't want to be targeted home goods. 245 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: A child don't. 246 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: So instead, what you're gonna do is go sit your 247 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: happy behind down in front of the computer. 248 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: Dora. 249 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: That's a computer for those of you who don't seakpa 250 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: like me and Mandy. All Right, So you're gonna see 251 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: in front of your computer, and you're going to, like, 252 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna like, you know, Auntie such and such, uncle, 253 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: this person, whatever it is, and you're going to like 254 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: create your list of what you're going to purchase and 255 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: how much it costs, you know, so that way you 256 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: can do your budget and your list off the same 257 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: time at the in the safety of your home, and 258 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: you're going to sign up for things like I love 259 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: It's not ebaits anymore racketin because racketon lets you get 260 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: cash back and they'll find coupons. Honey has like a 261 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: it'll allow you to see Honey racketing Honey. And there's 262 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: a third one, Capital One has one too. These are 263 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: pop ups that pop up on your screen when you 264 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: get to the payment page and says, hey, we found 265 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: coupons for you. So these are like coupon finders. And 266 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: when I tell you, I would say a good fifty 267 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: to sixty percent of the time. Well, maybe I'm fifty 268 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: to six per thirty to forty percent of the time, 269 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: Like I will find a coupon. I just brought some 270 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: jeans last night and it said, hey, you found a coupon. 271 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: I said, okay, I pressed it. Fifty percent off coupon. 272 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it that I didn't know of. And 273 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: so this will allow you. 274 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 3: Yeah kind of luck. 275 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's because I use all three. 276 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 3: This cone has been expired. 277 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: Well, that's because I use all of them. Like I'm like, 278 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: I have no loyalty. I use racketin, I use whatever 279 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: the capital one is, and I use use honey. 280 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: So between the three of them, at least something. 281 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: It might only be a dialog off or free shipping 282 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: or whatever, but something like thirty to forty percent of 283 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: the time will pop up. 284 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: And so if you do that, it'll allow you to. 285 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: Say, Okay, I have outlined everything I'm buying for everyone. 286 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: I know exactly what you know what I'm getting. Here 287 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: are my discount and code, this is my budget. Boom, 288 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: I'm done, you know. So that is one of the 289 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: best ways that you can manage your holiday spending. Even 290 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: if you're like I probably shouldn't buy this stuff, but 291 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: quite honestly, I'm doing it anyway. Something else to think 292 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: about is that, like you can collectively decide with your 293 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: family to do something different this year, so you can like, 294 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: so my sisters and I started this some years back. 295 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: I want to say, it probably has been over ten 296 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: years now where we don't actually get each other because 297 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: there's five of us, so that's too many gifts. So 298 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: instead on Thanksgiving we pull a name what we use 299 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: this thing called ooh, it's like secret Santa dot com 300 00:14:58,280 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: or something like that. 301 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 3: It's free umber you yeah, talking about it, yes, And so. 302 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: We just go on and we use the same one 303 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: every year. Or Elfster I think that's what. Actually that's 304 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: what I think. It's called elf Ster like elf but 305 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: stir and so we go in and then it will 306 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: everybody puts in their name and like kind of like 307 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: the gifts they want, and then we collectively decide as sisters, 308 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: so as your family, what is the budget. So when 309 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: things were tough, fifty bucks, when things are better, two 310 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: hundred bucks, and so we'll decide this year what the 311 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: budget is, and then we'll press like Elvester will email 312 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: you secretly be like your person is. 313 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: Tracy, you know, and then it'll list all the things. 314 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: And what's so great is that if you use the 315 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: same one, like we use Elvester every year, it will 316 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: say you had Tracy last year, So they will purposely 317 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: not give you. 318 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: The person for the year before, which is kind of nice, 319 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: you know. 320 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: And then you're just like all right, and then we 321 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: all know the budget. You know, I get my one 322 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: person the thing and that's it. So that helps a 323 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: lot too. You might say, we're actually not going to 324 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: exchange gifts this year. How about everybody just brings bring 325 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: their best dish that they make, and then we have 326 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: like a holiday pot luck. So having the conversation ahead 327 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: of time Thanksgiving is a great time because the family's 328 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: all there could kind of decide how we're going to handle. 329 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: Gift giving this year. That's really really helpful, you know. 330 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: And to do that, but also too lean into your 331 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: faves like social media. Typically your favorite brands are going 332 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: to give away things or codes or whatever on social media, Twitter, 333 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: whatever that they actually don't have on their site. 334 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: And so there are certain brands that I like to follow. 335 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: And I'm like, wait, they have twenty percent off, they 336 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: have thirty percent off textless. 337 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah that textless is everything. Now. 338 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: The key though, is is that you don't want to overspend. 339 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: That's why you want to have your list first. If 340 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I'm going to get my sister these 341 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: gap jeans, I'm going to get my brother, you know, 342 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: this flute from whatever, I'm going to get whatever that is. 343 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: It's like you want to get on the test list 344 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: from the things that you actually want to purchase for 345 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: people and not and and have your budget ahead of 346 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: time so you're not overspending unnecessary Seven. 347 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: Well, can I share a tip, especially when you have 348 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 3: a little kid. A huge hit for my family last 349 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 3: year and then I'm gonna have Rio du again this year, 350 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: is you can buy like a big bin of Legos 351 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 3: for like thirty bucks, like five hundred Legos or whatever, 352 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: and it comes with a little booklet of these most 353 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 3: adorable little like figurines that you can build. And they 354 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 3: don't take that much time. They're like for ages three 355 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: and up or whatever. And Rio made the cutest little 356 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: Lego characters for everybody in the family, and we wrapped 357 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 3: him up and he wrote and tears people just oh 358 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 3: my god. Real Mamsmiley Face and Real Mania Rainbow Heart. 359 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 3: Oh they loved it. So that was a really great 360 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: way because I want Rio to like learn the power 361 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 3: of gift giving because he's a great little griplin. So 362 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 3: handmade gifts from the kiddos, you can get away with 363 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 3: that when you got the cuties. 364 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: Okay, it's true. It's true. 365 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: And then also too, like like thinking about gifts in 366 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: different ways, like you know, I mean it sounds kind 367 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: of corny, but cha, I bet you many would love 368 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: a gift. It was like, you get ten free babysittings 369 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: this year. It's like, girl, holy done. 370 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 3: My god, that's a thousand dollars present. I mean ten 371 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 3: times one hundred dollars. I mean, you know, so no 372 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: one told about the babysitter tax have a happy marriage. 373 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 2: And so that's the thing. 374 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: So imagine, like with the people that you really really 375 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: care about, is there service you can give instead of presents? 376 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: You know, like, oh I can babysit, I could walk 377 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: the dog, I can come over and do dishes, I 378 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: can make dinner, you know, so consider doing that. But 379 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: having the key with all things when it comes to 380 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: money is having the conversation ahead of time and not 381 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: just doing the thing, you know, so that way people 382 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: understand like, hey, this year, I want to try something different. 383 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: How would you feel, everybody, family if I gave service 384 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: this year? Oh I love that okay? Or like you know, 385 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: like even when I go all my my girlfriends for 386 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: like dinner, I'm like, all right, So how are we 387 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: doing it? 388 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 2: Are we splitting evenly? 389 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: Do we have like a certain like stay under you know, 390 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: the you know, the threshold having pre conversations about anything money, 391 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: but especially about the holidays. It's really going to save 392 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: you from a lot of frustration and heartache and heartbreak. 393 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: Like Jenelle and I used to like say no gifts 394 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: then instead we were just gonna go and go somewhere, 395 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, So that way it'd be like, Okay, no gifts. 396 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: Or if you are going to like, you know, slip 397 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: up because you want to do something sweet, keep it 398 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: under twenty five bucks or whatever, and then we would 399 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: put the money in our travel account and then we 400 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: would just have the best time. 401 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 2: So things to consider. 402 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 1: I was just sharing with our producer Tanya and Mandy 403 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: that I just found out that if you are a 404 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: Bonvoid member, which is free to join Bonvoid, is the 405 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: reward program from Marriott. So Marriotte owns a bunch of 406 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: not just the regular marriout that own a bunch of 407 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: different hotels and properties. So you can sign up even 408 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: if you never even stayed at the Marriotte. But if 409 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: you use Uber uber eats and you connect your free 410 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 1: Bonvoi membership to your Uber uber eats, do you know 411 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: you can earn like a night stays, so. 412 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: You could earn points. 413 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: So one of the ways too, if you're so like me, 414 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: I get so many points that that also might be 415 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: a gift too. Like my sister is going to Nigeria 416 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: this year and I was like my gift to her 417 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: is I was like, I had so many points, we 418 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: were able to find a really cheap flight. 419 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: We use points. 420 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: I have American Express on my business and so we 421 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: were able to use this website called points do me 422 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: that is basically an algorithm for American Express points, and 423 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: it said, for you to go from New York to Nigeria, 424 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: here is the best flight where normally it would cost 425 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: you on America Express dot com two hundred and fifty 426 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: thousand points, but here's sixty thousand points. If you fly 427 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: your France out of this area and so I was 428 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: able to gift. 429 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 2: So if you're someone who also has points, that's a 430 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 2: great gift too. 431 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: You know, we talked about points before, but you can 432 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: literally give people travel with your points if you're someone 433 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: who collects a lot of points too. So just some 434 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: ways to think about the highday season in ways that 435 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: don't have to be so stressful, and you don't have 436 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: to be you know, you don't have to say I'm 437 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: not doing anything. It's like no, you could just say 438 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to host a holiday party. And that's my 439 00:20:59,000 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: gift to y'all. 440 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: Have the conversation, let your dad take you on an 441 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 3: eight hour fishing trip. They'll be set. 442 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 2: You'll be set for the. 443 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 3: Next year at least. All RBA fan thanks for listening 444 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: to the b a QA. We'll see you next time. 445 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 2: Bye bye,