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Speaker 1: Here's the thing I always like to tell people, especially

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Speaker 1: and movies to line of child murders, murders to basketball scandals.

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Speaker 1: Now he loved to show several years ago I hosted

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Speaker 1: by my man the nephew Tommy called Owns Ready to

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Speaker 1: Love a new relative Like she says, the fourth episode

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Speaker 1: is coming up. Please make sure you watch it. It's

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Speaker 1: only own networker's called put a ring on it. It

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Speaker 1: was shot in Atlanta mansion during the pandemic. So you

435
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Speaker 1: need to watch it just for that. You just dadn't

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Speaker 1: happen right now? People into that doing the pandemic. That

437
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Speaker 1: when they're holding hands, when they're sitting across from each other,

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Speaker 1: way across the dinner table, when they're sitting on opposite

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Speaker 1: ends of the sofa. How do pandemic couples interact even

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Speaker 1: though they've been together for a long time. I know

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Speaker 1: my wife, Dr Nicole, she still won't let me take

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Speaker 1: out to a restaurant. No, she will not let me

443
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Speaker 1: do that. She will not let me do my daughter

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Speaker 1: the same way. They said, we're dad, We're comfortable. Even so,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people have not accepted the mask wearing

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Speaker 1: from a social standpoint, and like you said, it does

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Speaker 1: cause people to do Pauls moments in their lives to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: that's I'm not comfortable with that. So I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: what were the most are not trying to reveal in

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Speaker 1: this series of the episodes as air so far? What

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Speaker 1: are some of the moments? Do it that you realized

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Speaker 1: this was a pandemic moment that this aired so far

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Speaker 1: in the first three episodes, you know, just just like

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Speaker 1: what you said, Um. One of the things that was

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Speaker 1: big for me but you won't see in the episodes

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Speaker 1: is you know you're with a crew and you you

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Speaker 1: know they're they're taking care of all of the things

458
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Speaker 1: that are necessary to make the show happen, and you

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Speaker 1: realize you've never seen their faces. It's like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: We've been working together for weeks, we've been in the

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Speaker 1: same dwelling, UM, but I don't know what you look like.

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Speaker 1: And that occurred to me when I finally saw um,

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Speaker 1: one of the guys um we call him Mr G.

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Speaker 1: When I saw him with his mask hanging down, and

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Speaker 1: I recognized in that moment, Wow, I've been working with

466
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Speaker 1: these amazingly talented people for weeks, and if I saw

467
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Speaker 1: them on the street months from now without a mask,

468
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Speaker 1: I would not know them. I was like, we are

469
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Speaker 1: in a different time. Stringent protocols, no hugs, no touching.

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Speaker 1: All the things were were not used by the crew

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Speaker 1: that was wiped down immediately and sprayed and wiped down

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Speaker 1: immediately wearing the mask. Because in the end we all

473
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Speaker 1: want to go home, and she is the host. I

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Speaker 1: would say, hot new show, lipatory, hot new show with

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Speaker 1: a hot title, put your ring on it, done by

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Speaker 1: a hot big time b ducing Will Packer by hot

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Speaker 1: host Dr the Cold Little Beach. Check it out. I

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Speaker 1: want to leave me. I I'm gonna reach out to him,

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Speaker 1: put some banners out there starting post yourself on my

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Speaker 1: social media again. I'm so glad we reconnected. And thank

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Speaker 1: you for those compliments. I really appreciate it. God has

482
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Speaker 1: put me in a position to help a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: and then along the way when I help them and

484
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Speaker 1: they come back and they compliment me, give me credit

485
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Speaker 1: for something I felt it was just my duty to do.

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Speaker 1: And the blessing that you are showing on TV today

487
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Speaker 1: is a blessing to me that I that I did

488
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Speaker 1: what I felt I had to do for you and

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Speaker 1: can change to put your success okay, doctor, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you so much. UM love to come back anytime you

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Speaker 1: will be back. We got we got f analies, We've

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Speaker 1: got for anales coming up here post talk or stuff.

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Speaker 1: We got more to do. You know, I got a

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Speaker 1: couple of idea. I'm gonna call you with a couple

495
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Speaker 1: of ideas to me and you and will need to

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Speaker 1: say that I got another idea of a show idea.

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Speaker 1: There's been bothering me for years in the relationship genre.

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna hear from me this week. Okay, And

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Speaker 1: you said, richean, I'm just some doctor, said rich that

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Speaker 1: makes no sense. You need to stop calling me. Keep

501
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Speaker 1: stick to what you do, okay, manage people, produce people.

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Speaker 1: But I think, let me tell you when humility needs humor,

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Speaker 1: I doubt that I will be saying after you're talking

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Speaker 1: about I doubt that good. So I'm probably I go

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Speaker 1: to l A to mar So I think I'll be

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Speaker 1: flying on the l A tomorrow. But this week, maybe Thursday,

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Speaker 1: I want to get on the phone, would you. I

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Speaker 1: got an idea that it's been it's been good bothering

509
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Speaker 1: me and because it's been something that I've been dealing

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Speaker 1: with and I always thought about the what ifs of life?

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Speaker 1: When when when we come to relationship. I want to

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Speaker 1: run about you, okay, because you're on a hot show.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate a big time we talked. So bye bye,

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Speaker 1: thank you. We'll be right back with more from Marsa

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Speaker 1: Making Conversations. I'm your host, Sean McDonald. My next guest

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Speaker 1: is Dr Joseph Asama. He's the property investment strategist and

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Speaker 1: Ghanem and came to America by way of England over

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Speaker 1: thirty years ago with only one hundred dollars in his pocket.

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Speaker 1: He now owns over for the homes they rent the

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Speaker 1: low income families. His mission is simple, is to change

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Speaker 1: Making Conversation. Dr Joseph asamor Chean. What an honor. I

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Speaker 1: am so happy to thank you. Well, I'm gonn tell

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Speaker 1: you something when I when I read your bio and

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Speaker 1: they they told me you'd like to do my show

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Speaker 1: and I can interview you. You know, my show is

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Speaker 1: about uplift, It's about motivation, about letting people know there

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Speaker 1: are there is a better option for you live and

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Speaker 1: that's that seems to be your mantra. Man. It's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, when I looked at everything I read is

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Speaker 1: about how can somebody understand that there's an opportunity they

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Speaker 1: don't know about. You can give them information not only

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Speaker 1: for a lifestyle, but but an income opportunity to change

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Speaker 1: and value themselves as better people in America. Exactly, exactly, exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to sharing some of my ideas and

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Speaker 1: some of my journey's traveling tribulations, ups and downs, and

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Speaker 1: hopefully be a source of inspiration to your listeners. Well,

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Speaker 1: you are a social inspiration because when I read it

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Speaker 1: in the beginning, you know, you thirty years ago a

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars in your pocket, and a lot of people

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Speaker 1: start with you know, that's that maybe a lot of

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Speaker 1: money to some people because in the era that we

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Speaker 1: lived today, in the middle of the pandemic, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about that. Let's start right now with that, because we

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Speaker 1: know housing there's a major issue. People are being evicted.

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Speaker 1: CDC did a suspend payment, but to come January, you

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Speaker 1: still will have to pay the payments that you missed

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Speaker 1: during that suspension period. How a guy who reads out

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Speaker 1: to low income housing, how has that impacted what you're

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Speaker 1: trying to do for the community and the people who

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Speaker 1: are renting from you. Yeah, I mean what I found,

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Speaker 1: as I said, the houses, the basic human needs that

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Speaker 1: everybody needs, and what I realized when I first came here. Um.

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Speaker 1: In fact, the story was, I came here with I

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Speaker 1: need one person in the United States. I used to

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Speaker 1: live in England. And when I came here, my uh,

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Speaker 1: about six weeks after I arrived, my boss was fired. Uh,

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Speaker 1: not because of anything he did wrong. It was just

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Speaker 1: that it was a reorganization and essentially the new guy

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Speaker 1: that came in, um, you know, got rid of my

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Speaker 1: my boss, and he was like go. So about six

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Speaker 1: or seven weeks later, a few weeks later, we met

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Speaker 1: up for lunch and this was, in hindsight, probably a

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Speaker 1: major change in my life. He's safeally what he said

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Speaker 1: to me during that line, he says, look, this is America.

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Speaker 1: These things happen, and but make sure you have a

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Speaker 1: plan B because you don't know what's going to happen tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: And this guy apparently he had like ten houses, and

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Speaker 1: I just couldn't fathom how anybody could have more than

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Speaker 1: one house? This is like, how is that possible? And

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Speaker 1: he just said, look, Joe, if whatever you do, make

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Speaker 1: sure you have a plan. B I chose real estate.

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Speaker 1: But if you do buy something, make sure that you

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Speaker 1: keep it, don't sell it, because over the long haul, Um,

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Speaker 1: you know you'll be fine. Because he had this rental

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Speaker 1: income coming in which is able to provide him that

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Speaker 1: sort of cushion because he lost his job. So I

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Speaker 1: knew zero about real estate invest in and I didn't

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Speaker 1: have any money. But you know, I took about his words.

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Speaker 1: I did some research and I bought my first house

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Speaker 1: about a couple of years later, a complete disaster. Everything

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Speaker 1: I could have gone wrong went wrong. And um, I

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Speaker 1: mean I can go through that. But when you say

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Speaker 1: everything it could be wrong, cove gone wrong? What wrong?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean when you say that? Well, in

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Speaker 1: this particular case, Um, the house had tenants inside already.

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Speaker 1: And so when I spoke to him what the potential

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Speaker 1: person I was buying? The seller of the house, I also,

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Speaker 1: you know, what are the tenants? Like? He said, Oh man,

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Speaker 1: they're great, They're fantastic people. I mean, I was straight

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Speaker 1: from England, you know, all Americans are honest people, so

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Speaker 1: I took Hi about his words. And after I bought

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Speaker 1: the house, I found out that they hadn't paid him

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Speaker 1: for three months and they had a water bill of

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Speaker 1: five thousand dollars um. So that's why I that was

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Speaker 1: my first entrain into real estate. This this this, uh,

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Speaker 1: this disaster and uh. But essentially what happened in the end,

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Speaker 1: I was able to turn that thing around. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know anything, and they were to turn around, worked with

641
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Speaker 1: the tenants, and we're able to catch everything up. But

642
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: looking back, that was probably um the best thing that

643
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: ever happened, not because I mean, we can laugh about

644
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: it now, but during the time, it was just pure

645
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: help what I learned. What I learned was everything that

646
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to do, what not to do. And

647
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: once I was able to sort of pick myself up

648
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: and then bought the second house, and then bought the

649
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 1: third house and just sort of continued until about fifty

650
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: years ago when all my bad time, I was working

651
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: for a major technology company. My income that company equaled

652
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: what I was making for my rental properties, so I

653
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: was able to have that plan b that you know,

654
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: my ex boss told me about, so I mean that's

655
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: essentially the journey is that real estate you know it

656
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: has lost the benefits. Uh, it can be a really

657
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: true vehicle towards wealth, wealth building. You can create a legacy. Uh,

658
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: you can get cash flow, you cant tax benefits. Dr Joseph,

659
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: let mess you this, you know, because you know here

660
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: the word planing B, and I just I just see it.

661
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: You just became an entrepreneur or are you working for somebody?

662
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: And you just became an entrepreneur, and you use the

663
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: gift that you have the ability to to uh to

664
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: see your visionary skills saying okay, this is income. Because

665
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: we see so many popular TV shows on now to

666
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: kind of talk about flipping homes and by just that's

667
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 1: you're so popular now. So thirty years ago they weren't.

668
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: That idea wasn't popular, but now it's a TV friendly

669
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: show to watch. And so so your plan B, Like

670
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: I said to me, it's just that you just you

671
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: just welcome your role as an entrepreneur and then you

672
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: would enable you to be able to walk away from

673
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: that hourly wage or that for the our week job.

674
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: There's so many people are strapped to and so so

675
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: when I when I see that, and I see the

676
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: opportunity that you present yourself. It's it's an easy conversation

677
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: talking about web about one home, about to home. We

678
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: see bodies on did you use personal loans? Did you

679
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: use income from your bank savings? How did you initially

680
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: start buying a home and then as second home? And third?

681
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: Did you leverage the first home? How did that? How

682
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: did this this this process stop process start to develop? Yeah, okay,

683
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: So the first house I bought, um, you know, the

684
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: one with that disaster. Essentially the seller I mean that

685
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: time I was working the seller at that point was

686
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: able to well able to negotiate with him because he

687
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: wanted to get rid of the house, whereby essentially I

688
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: was able to buy that house without much money down.

689
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: You know, we're able to negotiate a low down payment,

690
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 1: and I was able to afford that because he wanted

691
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: to get He was what we call a motivated seller,

692
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: and he just want to get rid of that thing.

693
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: Right now. The second half, the second house, which is

694
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: probably more important, um, was that at that time I

695
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: bought a house specifically uh whereby I could rent some

696
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: space in the home. Okay, So I had a basement

697
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: which I knew I could sort of rent out. It

698
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: had three bedrooms upstairs. I was like, I lived in

699
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: one and rented the other two out. So what that

700
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: meant was that I could buy this home. But my expenses,

701
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: the biggest expense that most people have is their housing expense.

702
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: If you're able to drive that thing down to buy

703
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: renting part of the space in the home, uh then

704
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: your everyday expenses goes down quite tremendously. So in this case,

705
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: the income that I was getting from the property essentially

706
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: equalled the mortgage that I was paying out, and therefore

707
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: I was able to save more money. And then I

708
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: saved and hit from saving, and therefore, by the savings

709
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: from the second property, I was able to have the

710
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: down payment for the third property and so on. And

711
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: then if that makes sense, uh So, the idea is

712
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: that there's two things. One is okay, if you don't

713
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: have any money okay, and you want to get this

714
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: thing going, then you have several options. One is to

715
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: obviously you need to either increase your income by having

716
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: a side hustle or generate some income one way or

717
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: the other. Or you can reduce your expenses. And the

718
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: biggest expense that most people have is a housing expense,

719
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: So how can you drive that housing expense lower? So

720
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: it's that you can save some money from which you

721
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: can then start. If you don't have that, then the

722
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: third option is to develop expertise and knowledge, and therefore

723
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 1: your partner your partner with people who do have the resources. Okay,

724
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: so there's people out there who have money but don't

725
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: know how to do this. Uh So you have to

726
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: bring something to the table for them to want to

727
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: work with you, so that you may have the knowledge,

728
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: or you may have the time or the expertise, or

729
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: you develop that anyway, and then you can partner with

730
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 1: people who may not who have the money but don't

731
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: not have the skills. I remember a couple of steps,

732
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: but I want to say a couple about that. Teen

733
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: years ago, a friend of mine approached me and he

734
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: was telling me about you know who's going into uh

735
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: interest in the neighborhood and you were saying that the

736
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: city in general wantch these neighborhoods upgraded because it because

737
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: if you upgrade the block. Because he was just talking

738
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: about we went down this block. He said, what we're

739
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: gonna do is we're gonna buy these homes here, and

740
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna upgrade them a little bit. And we upgrade

741
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: these homes and fix the street, then the city will

742
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 1: be able to raise the tax dollars. And he said,

743
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: that's the that's why the city likes when you come

744
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: in and get these neighborhoods upgraded because they can charge

745
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: more taxes. Now, when you charge more taxes than turn,

746
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,959
Speaker 1: that means that the people living in these homes can't

747
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: maybe not maybe or may not can't afford it. So

748
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: how does that work with you? Because when you're going in,

749
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're taking these homes, you're purchasing them, that

750
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: you're upgrading them. Do the taxes increase on the people,

751
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: are you? Or do you pass those those taxes increases

752
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: to the to the renters? How does that work? Okay? Um,

753
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: so you buy a house and then you improve it,

754
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: and then you you know, once you improve it, obviously

755
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: the value has gone up. And uh, most times, as

756
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: you said before, the tax of the assessment are based

757
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: on the value the home, so that the taxes may

758
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: go up. So I mean, that's just the reality. So

759
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: what I do is that you know, I rent most

760
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: of my houses to low income families. Many of the

761
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: families have housing choice vouches and Section eight as they

762
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: as people commonly refer them to. And one thing I've

763
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: realized is that there's a lot of famili there's a

764
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: stigma associated with Section eight in low income housing. There's uh.

765
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: What I realized is that there's a large number of

766
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: families out there who are really no different than you

767
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: and I wish on um. They want the best of

768
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: their children. They don't want to be shot at them

769
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: whether you want to be shot at. They want to

770
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: have a decent home, They want to live in a

771
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: uh you know, you know where, access to amanities. There

772
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: really no different than you and I. The only difference

773
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: is that they may not have the money, but their goals,

774
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: their outlook, their expectations for their children are no different

775
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: than you and I. So what I realized when I

776
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: realized this is that if I can provide quality housing

777
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: in good areas, I can attract those families and uh

778
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: and when when you get those families, it truly is

779
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: a blessing because what happens is that they are so

780
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: appreciative of the fact that someone is giving them an

781
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: opportunity to live in a nice house, in a nice area,

782
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: and four things happen. One is that they pay their

783
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: rent to is that they take care of your property.

784
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: Three they're pleasant to deal with. And four, which is

785
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 1: probably the most important one, they stay a long time.

786
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 1: And this business, as I'm sure you know, it's cheaper

787
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: to keep an existing customer happy is to go find

788
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: another one. So in the space of the real estate environment,

789
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: it's cheaper to have an existing tenant happy, so they

790
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: stay with you a long time rather than having the

791
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: vacancy and turnover when they leave. Because when they leave,

792
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: you've got to paint the place again, you're clean up

793
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: and so forth. So um so, therefore the you know,

794
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: so the rents that you collect each month stays in

795
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: your pocket. But the important thing is that you're providing

796
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 1: life changing opportunities. Life changing. I mean, I was speaking

797
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: to one of my tenants last week. Just by the

798
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: fact that she moved into one of my properties, two

799
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: of her kids have got four point oh g p

800
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: a s. They're going to college, four scholarships. Uh. This

801
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: would not have happened if they weren't in a better area. Uh,

802
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: this wasn't have happened if those opportunities to present themselves

803
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: to you. So I mean that's really the other side

804
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: of the things. You can make money, but also you

805
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: can do good and and that's what you stated in

806
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: your early you abission is to change lives, provide opportunities

807
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: for low income people to live in safer neighborhoods and

808
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: have access to resources and batter education. That's what always

809
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: angers me about racism, because racism acts like if it

810
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: makes it seem like people who don't have, or people

811
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: of color who don't have, want to steal, want to

812
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: sell drugs, want to bring down the value of neighborhood

813
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: because they move into that neighborhood. And that's really, like

814
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,959
Speaker 1: you say, a horrible stereotype that you have to deal

815
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 1: with when you're meeting people who just want the same

816
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: value and the same opportunity exactly exactly, I mean, I

817
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: mean the larger context is, at least in Washington, d C.

818
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's the same thing where you are and

819
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: many of your listeners are neighborhoods are being transformed, okay,

820
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: being changed, Okay through gentrification. Now that's just the reality,

821
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 1: at least in Washington, d c C. It's just rampant

822
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: the neighborhoods where many years ago you say, who the

823
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: hell want to live there? Now you can't get there,

824
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: you can't get in. It's changed. Uh. For example, when

825
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: when you know one of the blocks where you lived

826
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. When I was there, that block

827
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: was a hundred percent black African American. Now that block

828
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: is a hundred percent white. There's only one family on

829
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: that block that's African American, and that is my tenant. Uh.

830
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: If I didn't eat that home and provide that opportunity

831
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: to that family, they wouldn't be there. So the idea

832
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: is that you know, true, what we can do, you

833
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: and I and simple we can mitigate some of the

834
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: effects of gentrifications, just displacement. We understand these families, we

835
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: know what they're trying to accomplish, and we can sort

836
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: of have an insight and really understanding to give them

837
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: a chance, to give them opportuances. And that's very true.

838
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,400
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861
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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Sean McDonald, and that's why I brought

862
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: up this whole statement about you know, when when your

863
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 1: upgrade the neighborhood or you upgrade house, than the taxes

864
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: go up, and then that's what the people who live

865
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 1: in that sometimes have to move out. Or then your

866
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: situation that you was explaining about the same thing happened

867
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: in Harlem. You go to HALLM right now, first moved

868
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 1: to New York. You couldn't catch a cab to HALLO.

869
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: Now you walk the hall of it two o'clock and

870
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: more and the white peop walking around with their dogs,

871
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: you know, street, and that's that's no joke. And it's

872
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: like okay, this is like okay, you know, you go

873
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: other than other than Apollo Theater, HALLM is pretty much

874
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: white up there. You know. People arguing that case with me,

875
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: But go up there and hang out because I know,

876
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 1: I lived in New York and New York and eight eight.

877
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: I moved back there in two thousand five, and it

878
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: was just two different neighborhoods. But along the way I

879
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: would always go up there, either to perform or the

880
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: visitor television show pictures or visit people that I know.

881
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: And you see these communities changed it or one minority

882
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: black now they can't even live in the neighborhood that

883
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: they were born in. They can't even live in the

884
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: neighborhoods that they grew up in because of the fact

885
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: that the low income has been pushed out and been

886
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: pushed out because value has all source the ability to

887
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: have income to pay for it. So when I listened

888
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: to you saying like black and low low income family

889
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: lives do matter given an opportunity to live in high

890
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: income gentrify areas, did you just mentioned they normally could

891
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: never afford about your lastning recession proof formula? What is

892
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: their recession proof formulive that you're talking about? Sure? The

893
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: thing about some of these sort of like the Housing

894
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: Choice Abouts program, the six Day program, it's it's a

895
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: program whereby part of the rent is paid by the

896
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: housing authority, the local housing authority, and the remainder is

897
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: paid by the tent Okay so um. So for instance,

898
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: I'll just give it an example. If the rent for

899
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: this property is a thousand dollars for example, which is

900
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: not the case in New York, is not the case

901
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. But just for obviously easy numbers,

902
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: if the rent is a thousand dollars to your home,

903
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: then you may decide, well, the housing authority may pay

904
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: let's say six hundreds of that thousand, and the tenants

905
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: portion maybe four hundreds. And the tennants portion is based

906
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: on their income. So the more money they made, the

907
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: more that they pay. The less money they made, the

908
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: less that they pay. Okay, so let's just take a

909
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: simple scenario. A thousand dollar rent six under this take

910
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: by the housing authority and four hundred dollars is paid

911
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 1: by the tenant. The reason why it's the recession proofs

912
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 1: is that if the tenant loses their income, loses their job,

913
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, then typically what they will happen

914
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: is that they'll go to the housing authority and their

915
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 1: portion will go down because their income has gone down,

916
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: so it may go from four hundred to two hundred

917
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: and uh and therefore the housing authority picks up the difference,

918
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 1: so their portion will go from six hundred to eight hundreds.

919
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: The thousand dollars are still the same, it's just that

920
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: the breakdown of that thousand dollar will will will change.

921
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 1: So in a in a recession, when people lose their income,

922
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: or people who have their house cut, hours cut, and

923
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: things like that, what happens is that they may not

924
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: be able to pay you, and therefore you will lose

925
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: that whole a thousand dollars. Okay, under that, if I

926
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: was rented to uh, let's say a market rental, if

927
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: they lost their job or lost their hours, they may

928
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: not be able to take a thousand dollars. But with

929
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: the house Authority tenants, it's actually eight tenants, that portion

930
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: will go from four hundred two hundred, So I will

931
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: still get the eight hundred from the housing authority and

932
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: the tenants responsible for the two hundred. So you are

933
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: essentially going to get most of your rent. It's not

934
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 1: all of your rent regards of the economic cycle that

935
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: you're in. And that's basically what you're saying is that

936
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: these rental rented, the individually rental kind of like I

937
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 1: almost have a built in and government plan that allows

938
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: you to get your rent paid a portion of it

939
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: paid at least, no matter what's going on, no matter

940
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: they're doing the pandemic, no matter doing the reception, you

941
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: pretty much can can can still afloat with the tenant

942
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: that you have. Versus a person who may get laid

943
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: off from a job, a person who may get fired,

944
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: may get terminated, may do the illness, and they have

945
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: no income than the rent that you can potentially get

946
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: in that person is zero. Correct, Yes, yeah, So I

947
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: have some tenants who the ranks of zero, and some

948
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: of them are hundred dollars, two hundred dollars or whatever

949
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: it is. So you know that their portion again is

950
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 1: based on the income that they make. But the key

951
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: though is that these are nice homes in nice areas.

952
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: These families are they want to stay there, uh, and

953
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: so they're in no rush to leave. And uh, you know,

954
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: in this business, you know, I can't really stress this.

955
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: Certain neighborhoods, certain areas, certain cities, certain geographic geographers. Over time,

956
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: the prices of houses go up. And you know, as

957
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: you said in New York Atlanta, so over time the

958
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: houses go up. Therefore, if you can buy this house

959
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: or this asset and keep it for a long time,

960
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: then the price will go up. And that's that's a

961
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: that's wealth, that's legacy, that's income, that's cash flow that

962
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: you can obviously leave as a legacy to your family

963
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: and your children, and you know, and you can pass on.

964
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: My father should tell me they're not gonna make any

965
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: more land once you buy that land then it's something

966
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: that you can own and uh and build on and

967
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: uh and like you say, a legacy part of it.

968
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 1: But in Joe, you formed this, the Legacy Investment Network.

969
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: It's a free community membership platform and basically everybody is

970
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: comprised of nearly one thousand investors and industry professionals who

971
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: are access to your expertise. So tell us about the

972
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: Legacy Investment Network they're formed that you formed in twenty Joseph. Yeah,

973
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: I mean, from my perspective, the pie is big enough everybody. Okay, Uh,

974
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if Rashaan does what I do. It

975
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you know, the pie is enough for everybody.

976
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 1: And so what I realized, you know, is that whenever, whenever,

977
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: whenever I have a house for rents, I'm getting in

978
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen fourteen applications. So I'm turning down ten twelve

979
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: thirteen people families, families who are yearning for the opportunities.

980
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: So I cannot meet the needs. It's just not possible. Uh,

981
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 1: it's not possible. So therefore, you know, my whole idea

982
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: is what can I do to encourage other people to

983
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: replicate what I'm doing? Uh? So that's The essential to

984
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: the genesis of the network is that I try to

985
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: help people, educate people, share with them what I'm doing,

986
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: giving them the opportunity to see what I'm doing, and

987
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: hopefully give them the inspiration and encouragement to replicate what

988
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm doing. And that's essentially what it is. Because you

989
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: cannot meet the need needs which on your listeners, cannot

990
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: meet the need. The need is too great and we

991
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: need more people to do this because the analogy is,

992
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: I see this is like the train is leaving the station.

993
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 1: We can sit on the station and curve and sort

994
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: of watch the train move leave and complain that the

995
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: train is left, or we can get onto that train

996
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: and be a you know, participant on that journey. So

997
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: my job, I think what I can do is to

998
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: help people get onto that train. Uh. And that's the

999
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: essentially what the Letting Vegacin network does. Well. You know

1000
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: the interesting thing about it. When I look at your

1001
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: academic background electric engineering n b A PhD. Education is

1002
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: important to you and so because that that tells me

1003
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: that you want other people have that same opportunity to

1004
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: educate themselves. So when you're telling your story, what do

1005
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: you want people to remember about you, Joseph, what this is?

1006
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: This is a good one good question. I don't mean

1007
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: because I didn't made the stuff, you know, but just

1008
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: but reason I say that, let me just back up

1009
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't tell you why, because when

1010
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: when when I look at a person like you, who

1011
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: you know you come when you come over to this

1012
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: country from from England Gannabo okay, thirty years ago, and

1013
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: you immediately understand, you see the opportunity, but you're not

1014
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: afraid to investigate the door. Now, like you told me earlier,

1015
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: you said, rashand I knew nothing about real estate, but

1016
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 1: now you're considered a real estate a master in real

1017
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: estate investment. You consider that, So I mean that you

1018
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: made yourself an expert. But then your acacymic training is

1019
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: in electrical engineering, okay, and then you got the NBA

1020
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: and then information systems your PhD. So none of these

1021
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: things have to do with real estate other than the

1022
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: fact that you've taken an opportunity as an entrepreneur and

1023
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: and mastered it. And so when I asked you, what

1024
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: do you what do you want people remembered by you?

1025
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: That's the question that I need to learn answer. No, No, no,

1026
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: let let me let me ask it this way. I

1027
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: think I was thinking to my mom, okay, about a

1028
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: few years ago, she's in England, and she was telling me,

1029
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'm doing. She said, what are

1030
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: you going to stop? Why? Why are you doing this?

1031
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: When is there nothing off? I mean, you know, it's

1032
00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: just a typical moment. Uh, She's go along, Why are

1033
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: you doing this? When is he enough enough? Haven't you

1034
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: got enough houses? Stop? You know? And so on? And

1035
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about that because it's a legitimate

1036
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: question when is enough enough? You know, when do you

1037
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: say it's enough? Sean you've accomplished what you need to do? Um,

1038
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: you know, you don't what you can? When is it

1039
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: enough enough? And so I realized that what I'm doing

1040
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: essentially is providing opportunities for other families. I'm providing opportunities,

1041
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: hopefully by sharing knowledge to other investors who can get onto,

1042
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: you know, do what I do. So if I stop

1043
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: doing what I'm doing, then what about those ten, twelve,

1044
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: thirteen tenants who I have to turn down where they're

1045
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: going to live and who's going to provide them quality housing,

1046
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: quality areas? Who's going to do what I'm doing you

1047
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: know who's gonna do it? You know so so so

1048
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: the legacy essentially is hopefully, yes, you can make money,

1049
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: but also you can do good. You can provide um.

1050
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: You can be remembered as a person who's provided the

1051
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: quality housing, you created the opportunities for families, and you

1052
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: help other other investors, other individuals social African American community

1053
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: build wealth and have a legacy, we say, can test

1054
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: onto future generations because if we don't do this, these

1055
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: neighborhoods are changing and we are being left behind. We

1056
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: have no say in what's going on in our communities.

1057
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: Zero say, we've got to own some of these assets.

1058
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: We've got to own some of these communities. We've got

1059
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: to own it, because if you don't own it, you're

1060
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: at the mercy of somebody else, right, you know they

1061
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: they When I your mom respond question, it was very

1062
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: natural with question because she's thinking from an investment, from

1063
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: an economic standpoint, but she's she's she's born to this

1064
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: life an incredible young man who is more than about money.

1065
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: You're by changing lives and you're about seeing you when

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Speaker 1: you can wake up the next day. This is a

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Speaker 1: question that if she ever asked you that question, just

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Speaker 1: just a response I would give to your mom. I

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01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: was your mom. When when I wake up the next

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Speaker 1: day and I don't have to worry about people not

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Speaker 1: equally getting the same opportunity to everybody else in this country,

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Speaker 1: when they when people are feel that their child can

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Speaker 1: get equally educated and live in the neighborhood that's comfortable

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01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: to them, when they don't have to worry about being

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01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: rejected because of the color of their skin, then that

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01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: will be enough, will be enough their mom. But right

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Speaker 1: now it's not enough. And people like you, Joseph Asamore,

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Speaker 1: are important to the chain of opportunity for all of

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Speaker 1: us because I would tell people, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you give me a break, I'm a person of color,

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Speaker 1: I guess what you're gonna win too. That means that

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01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: it means that I'm I'm pursuing the same dream, I'm

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Speaker 1: paying the same taxes, I'm going to work, and I'm

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Speaker 1: putting forth the same effort that you want to put

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Speaker 1: to make this country great. If we make this country

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01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: great together, then we all win. And that is what

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Speaker 1: you are trying to accomplish, and you are accomplishing I

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01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: should put the word try in it. Okay, you are

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01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: accomplishing that. And I'm a teammate too, and that's why

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Speaker 1: I wanted to bring you on the show. Joseph, that's all.

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Speaker 1: That's all. Yeah, that's let's to what I do. Okay.

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Speaker 1: In additions, you know, what I realized is that there

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01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: are two assets in all in what I do. That's

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Speaker 1: the real estate asset. But the other asset, which is

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Speaker 1: a human asset of the family. Okay, it's a very

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01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: very very important asset in this equation because without them

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01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: you can't do this business. A lot of landlords sale

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Speaker 1: to understand that. So what I do is I realized

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Speaker 1: that I've got to have happy tenants. And all my tenants,

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Speaker 1: every mother say, we're given boupets of flowers. Uh, every Christmas,

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01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: we give them Christmas presents. If the kids get all

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Speaker 1: ways at school, I give them fifty dollar gift certificates.

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Speaker 1: And believe it or not, we give our tenants free vacations. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's I love. My tellors like of this business. They're

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01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: good families out here, despite the stereotypes. They're just yearning

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Speaker 1: for somebody to give him an opportunity in the chance.

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01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: And um so there are two sides to this thing.

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01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: Is that you can do good, but also you can

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Speaker 1: make money. Uh. But more important, I said, you can

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Speaker 1: leave a legacy and uh to your children, your family,

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Speaker 1: after your community. Well, my friend, UM, thank you for

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Speaker 1: coming on the show. I think I told you early

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01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: off air. I'm building a new studio, have a I'm

1114
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: gonna have a giant video wall because all my interviews

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01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: are gonna be by video starting the next month. So

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01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: in about the December, says you out there passing that

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Speaker 1: Christmas presents to your lef I'm your renners. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to bring bring it back on the show, and maybe

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01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: you bring a tenue to you know, we zoom them

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Speaker 1: into the call. How about that? How about love we

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01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: invite a couple of your tenants on and they'll talk

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01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: about the experience man, because you know that's what I

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Speaker 1: want to do. I want to tell your story, man,

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Speaker 1: and your story. This is just an introduction into your story.

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Speaker 1: But let's let's purely act a little bit more in

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Speaker 1: the month of December and doing a zoom call, bringing

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Speaker 1: a couple of more your tenants and uh, just talk

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Speaker 1: about how you've changed your life. Thank you for coming

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Speaker 1: on the show. Yeah, if anybody can connect to me.

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Speaker 1: I do have a Wealth Wednesdays every Wednesday after my

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01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: social media so they can reach it on Instagram or Facebook,

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Speaker 1: d r U d R DR Joe as m j

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Speaker 1: O E S m O. Every Wednesday at seven pm

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Speaker 1: Eastern time. I do have what I call the Wealth Wednesdays,

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01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: and so they can cheot in and I talked about

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01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: different subjects or pertains to building wealth and generations and

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01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: so forth. So check me out. Well. The good thing

1138
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: about that is my newsletter goes out on Wednesdays morning

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01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: at nine o'clock in the morning, and so I put

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01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: that in my newsletter. I get with my team to

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01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: get a banner and get h some links so we

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01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: can promote it. Okay, and also you might see it

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01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: familiar face. I might drop in and watch you how

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01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: about that? Hey, hey, hey, hey Rochane. I also, I

1145
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: don't know if you've heard this slaphone called a pocket

1146
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: Bigger Bucket that the world's largest real estate Um, you

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01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: know social media platform. I do have a program on

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01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: that every other Friday, and it's a natural platform. So

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01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: I was welcome the opportunity to maybe one day if

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01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: you're not well I would say based on what you do, man,

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01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: I make time. Seriously, what you're doing. I love you, dude,

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01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: because you're doing things that I've been doing since I

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01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: was eighteen, and I didn't realize what I was doing

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01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: with just natural to me. And you're doing things in

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01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: a natural to you and and you're not and you're

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01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: not embarrassed by that. You say, Man, I'm making money,

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01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: but I'm also changing lives. I'm also leaving legacy. I'm

1158
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: also understanding that you could do this too. Also, there's

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01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: room for other people. I want other people to come in,

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01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: because that's what more people means, more people lives are

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01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: changed by the same effort, the same mission statement. So

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Speaker 1: that's what you tell my staff when you need me.

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01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: You till me those banners so I can promote you

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01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: win this show and Joseph, you'd be back on my

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01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: show decemb with a couple of your tenants. Okay, yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: thank you a wonderful thank you again, and I can

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Speaker 1: now die in peace. All right. I appreciate your brother.

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01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate your brother. You stay stay okay, my next kiss.

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Speaker 1: Ashley Woods is an author, aspiring motivational teacher, and mentor.

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Speaker 1: Ashley is a veteran of the United States Army and

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01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: National Guard Reserve. She served for five years from two

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Speaker 1: thousand two to two thousand seven. Diagnosed with PTSD in twelve,

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01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: Ashley has faced many obstacles in their life, including multiple

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01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: breakdowns and two suicide attempts. Equipped with an effective management

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Speaker 1: technique for her PTSD, Actually now dedicates her time as

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Speaker 1: a mental illness advocate, supporting millions of people that battle

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Speaker 1: with the effects of various mental disorders every day and

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Speaker 1: inspiring and encouraging others to overcome and thrive. Actually is

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01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: living proof that your illness does not have to define

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01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: your path in life. She's the shore to talk about

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01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,919
Speaker 1: the overcoming the odds. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations

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Speaker 1: Ashley Woods. Hello, Hello, thank you for having me. First

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Speaker 1: of all, you know to explain to me what exactly

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01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: is p t s D. Okay, PTSD is cos traumatic

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01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: stress dis order, and a lot of people get to

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01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: misconstrued and think that it's military driven and it's not

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01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: be anything that happened UM in your life that calls

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01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: UM trauma and it makes you and you can have

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Speaker 1: triggers behind put you on the depressed state of mind.

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Speaker 1: And it's it's it's different um depending on the person.

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Speaker 1: So how it might affect me, Like with me, one

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Speaker 1: of my triggers is bad. Why back is the trigger

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Speaker 1: for me because that's what my sister had tried to

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01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: use to kill me when I was a little, when

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Speaker 1: I was six years over, So I have it that,

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01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: like you know, I have a thing with that. So

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Speaker 1: system of it's triggered by a terrifying event. So it

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Speaker 1: could be somebody who got rape molested, assaulted. M are

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Speaker 1: they seeing somebody in the house, you know, get abused.

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Speaker 1: It's different layers. Whatever is traumatic to that person, you

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01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: can trigger off different emotions that cause people to go

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Speaker 1: in and out of slumps and suffer severe anxiety, nightmare, nightmares.

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Speaker 1: And also it just it takes over your mind. Right,

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Speaker 1: the first time I became aware or heard the term

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Speaker 1: PTSD was Vietnam veterans. And so that's why you know,

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Speaker 1: I guess you said. Rashaun is not just tied to military.

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Speaker 1: It's tied to everyday life. It's tied to dramatic physical, mental,

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01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 1: catastrophic engagements in your life that can cause you to

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01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,919
Speaker 1: be depressed, and that it can lead to you know, relationships,

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01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: running relationships to potentially leading you to commit suicide, causing

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Speaker 1: you stress at your job and not functioning properly. That's

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Speaker 1: what pt s D can do. And I brought you

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01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 1: on the show just like let people know that it

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01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: is not tied to one lane of opportunity that you

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01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: can become a victim of PTSD. Now, how will you diagnosed? Because,

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Speaker 1: like I said, you served in the military, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to put up two and two together, but

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Speaker 1: you United States Army and National Guard Reserve. Now what's

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01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 1: the difference between the two. You have the United States

1220
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Speaker 1: Army and National Guard Reserve. Please tell us the difference

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Speaker 1: between the two the National Guard Reserve, that's not full

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Speaker 1: time Army. So I was able when I first founded

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Speaker 1: up because I was a little scared of um being

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Speaker 1: way from home. So it was like I go to

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Speaker 1: BA training. Then I come back to a station in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: which mines was on Southampton Road up the boulevard at

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Speaker 1: maintenance company. So I did weekend drills and then two

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Speaker 1: weeks out of the year I did drills. We're basically

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Speaker 1: gonna standby in case anything happens, but in between times

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Speaker 1: we trained, we still retool, We still you know, do

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01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: our PT tests and that everything. Now I got tired

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01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: of that. I didn't feel like I was maximizing, um

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Speaker 1: my strength. So I wanted to go active. But when

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Speaker 1: I'm in a rugby United States Active Army, I'm full time.

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Speaker 1: It's not everyday life. And now I'm stationed on a

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Speaker 1: military installation and um, you know, I'm tied to a

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Speaker 1: different And I was stationed at Fort Benning in Columbus, UM,

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Speaker 1: Georgia before I had to get out due to medical

1239
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Speaker 1: so I'm I'm a better you know, I'm a disabled veteran.

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Speaker 1: They found out I had heart conditions, so I had

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Speaker 1: to get out. But my diagnosis came probably five years

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Speaker 1: after I got out, because I got out in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and seven. And once I started going therapy and counseling,

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Speaker 1: they showed that I'm not trying to start it when

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01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: I was six years and to go to the military

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01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: to run from my problems within my household, and it

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01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: kind of added to my problems. And that's why I

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01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 1: try to stress the people. Sometimes we think that you know,

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01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 1: changing the city of state that you're in, or you know,

1250
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 1: trying to shut off your your past without doing with it,

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01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:20,759
Speaker 1: it's going to make life better and it it didn't

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01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 1: for me. So it actually added onto all the issues

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Speaker 1: that I had because I dealt with challenges in the military,

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Speaker 1: you know, being a female, being a mechanic. Um, we

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01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: still went through the certain things of you know, racism,

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01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: equality and all that things of that nature. You wouldn't

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01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: think that you would go through stuff like that, but

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Speaker 1: it happens everywhere. Absolutely absolutely so. Now you're in the military. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you're an author and entrepreneur. Did anything that you did

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Speaker 1: the military? Uh? What impact did it have on you

1261
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 1: as an author? What impact did it have on you

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01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 1: as an entrepreneur? Um? The military impacts foam. I'm always

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01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: grateful for the military because it opened my eyes to

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01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: not only see different parts of the world, but just

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01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 1: understanding people different aspects of their life, different background, ship

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Speaker 1: and nationality. Um. Right, and became a coper medicanism because

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Speaker 1: I wasn't good at communicating my feelings, like when I

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Speaker 1: try to keep my feelings when I was younger to

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Speaker 1: my parents when bad things were happening to me. It

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Speaker 1: fell on deaf ear because in those times, we didn't

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Speaker 1: talk about mental health. So they just swept things under

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Speaker 1: the rugs. So writing became the only way I can

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Speaker 1: live out how I felt because I would just get angry,

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Speaker 1: I get watery, and I don't feel like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I can relay my message verbally, so right and became

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01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: the way I was able to live off some scene.

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01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: And I've always been good at writing and putting together things.

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01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: But the book thing, I don't know how. It came about.

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01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: When I was a contractor and I was out Afghanistan. Uh,

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01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: I was like ro nervous because we were getting bombed about,

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01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: and I just I started writing. And that's when my

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Speaker 1: first book, Alphabet Dreams, came about, and I voted it

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Speaker 1: and I started liking it, and I just kept going. Right,

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01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: you found a passion. You found your passion. I found

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01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 1: your gift because, like I said in the in the

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Speaker 1: Moment of Fear, you you were able to become creative

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Speaker 1: and that became a positive thing for you. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: to Ashley Wood. She's an author, aspiring, motivational teacher, and

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Speaker 1: a mentor to many people. She served uh United States

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Speaker 1: Army and their National Guard Reserve from two thousand to

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Speaker 1: two thousand seven. She was diagnosed with PTSD in twelve

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01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: and right off the box, she just let us know.

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01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: PTSD is not a military problem. It's a problem that

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Speaker 1: whenever you're involved in anything traumatic, whether it can be

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01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: an injury, peaking accident, it could be a moment in

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01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 1: in your childhood that you still flashback with something appears

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01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 1: that that make a negative reaction in your life. So

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01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: defining could be child abuse, could be molestation, could be

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01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: a rape, can be anything that really just triggers you

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01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: into a very negative state immediately. That's what PTSD can

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01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: do you. It just throws you. It doesn't have to

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01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: be a physical force on you. It's a mental challenge

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01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 1: to your mental psyche. Can paralyze people, can emotionally traumatize people,

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01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,480
Speaker 1: can make them breakdown, and can make them suicide suicidal.

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01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 1: When you go to that state of suicide, what what

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01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: what takes a person there? And I'm not trying to

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01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 1: be uh insensitive when I say that, I'm just saying,

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01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 1: but it has to be a degree of helplessness or

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Speaker 1: hopelessness to go to a state of considering suicide. Correct. Actually, yeah,

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01:13:55,920 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 1: and there is different um for myself. Um, I did

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01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 1: so hopelessly. I didn't feel like, I basically feel like

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01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 1: how these young children when they commit suicide and do

1313
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 1: things they kind of feel like for me, I think

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01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 1: the kids feel like there's no light at the end

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01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 1: of the tunnel. They can't Then they're getting bullied to

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01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 1: school and they're like in force for fifth pray and

1317
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: they're thinking, like, I gotta go through how many years

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01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: it is? Is this ever going to stop? I want

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01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: to end them? And so in my life, I came

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01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: to a night where I just thought that it's not

1321
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 1: gonna get more butter, I can't escape these soon. Because

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01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I was so ashamed to admit that

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01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: I had, you know, some type of mental illness issues

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01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 1: that I didn't have a way of coping with it.

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01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: And so because I didn't know how to cope and

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01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 1: I didn't try to get treatment, I was trying to

1327
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 1: hide it when all emotions came in once and I

1328
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: just didn't know how to handle things across the board.

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01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: I did so hope that I felt like because a

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01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 1: lot of pain, that trauma came from the hands of

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01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: my own parents, and you know, and a lot it

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01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't physical abuse, it was just you know,

1333
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 1: mental you know neglect not hearing me when I give

1334
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: you that, Hey, I am a cousin uncle that keeps

1335
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 1: trying to have sex with me. I'm only twelve years old,

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01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: and I'm constantly I'm constantly having to be around this

1337
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 1: person that's trying to do bad things to me, and

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01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 1: they pushed uscle when I got to a point where

1339
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 1: I just I just felt like it would be better

1340
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: if I'm not here, because me being here it seems

1341
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: like I'm a burden, I'm a problem. I can't do

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01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:43,560
Speaker 1: good enough. And I just didn't love myself enough to

1343
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 1: understand that even if certain people didn't value me being

1344
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: here or I didn't understand my words, that somebody else

1345
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: out here would. And so thank god I started getting

1346
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,719
Speaker 1: treatment and I was unsuccessful in that suicide attempt because

1347
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: I know, you know, what I might not get from

1348
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: somebody else, I don't get from another person. And that's

1349
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: the thing people from around us is who you surround

1350
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,600
Speaker 1: yourself with, because some people might not get you, and

1351
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 1: they might be in their very own homes that won't

1352
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 1: get you, but they don't mean give up. There's other

1353
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: people out there. They go through the same problem, even worse,

1354
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 1: and that you can lean on to. And so once

1355
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 1: I just started just going to counseling and therapy, I

1356
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 1: got better and understanding that something don't work out my way,

1357
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: or I'm feeling this emotion, how to handle it differently

1358
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: so I won't get into that bad space. Well, they're

1359
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 1: bad and I'm gonna just tell you I've been in

1360
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: that bad state, you know, because of the fact that

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01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 1: there is a I'm in a high pressure business. I'm

1362
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 1: always expected, uh not to fail because people depend on me,

1363
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 1: and that can take you into that state of being

1364
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: boxed in because you don't know who to turn to

1365
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 1: sometimes because you don't admit you don't want to admit

1366
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,679
Speaker 1: what you don't know. Because time that can be considered

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01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 1: a sign of weakness, and it can be people. People

1368
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 1: can start doubting you, especially when you consider the leader

1369
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 1: and the responsibility. Being a leader can be very lonely

1370
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 1: a lot of times, and because a lot of times

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01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,799
Speaker 1: you have to make decisions based on for people's expect

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01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 1: of you. And when I hear you talking like my

1373
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 1: what calms me? All? My property? I bought a property

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01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: and had a little lake and back and actually it's

1375
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 1: that's the rippling of the water calms me, that brings

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01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: my whole personality down, and so it makes me relaxed.

1377
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: And so that's what you're talking about as well, finding

1378
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:40,679
Speaker 1: places that can taking a positive state when you're suffering

1379
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 1: these dramatic rushes that can come crippling. Like I'm just

1380
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: telling you some of these is an attacks that can

1381
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 1: hit you. Some of people call them panic attacks, some

1382
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: people call them physical jar mental assaults. But they're all

1383
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 1: formulated from some basis of a drama that has happening,

1384
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: our trauma that has happened in your life, and now

1385
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: you're playing it out and you can't always control it.

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01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 1: So that helps me from from going to the next

1387
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 1: level to be calm because I can always tell women

1388
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: when that moment is getting a little bit too big

1389
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 1: for me and I go, wow, okay, you know it's

1390
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 1: not watching another Marvel movie, is not watching uh food

1391
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 1: on the cooking channel. I just gotta go and let

1392
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 1: my mind just see simple things. How do how do you?

1393
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:31,759
Speaker 1: How do you cope with it? Ashley? Um? I cope

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01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 1: with being able to I'm I'm hit like when I'm

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01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: doing them, being able to help other people help because

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01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 1: I'm still struggling with certain bats. I don't want people

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01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 1: to think I got it all together. I'm piecing it together.

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01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,560
Speaker 1: I'm doing better and I wake up just trying to

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01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: win the day. Overall. I don't try to think too

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01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: far ahead. I just try to win the day. But

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01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 1: when I'm able to talk to people and people like yo,

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01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 1: I needed to hear that that it makes me keep going.

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01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 1: I didn't next that you're to be the face of

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01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 1: the well. I just I'm just serving my purpose that

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01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 1: God placed upon me. And he said, hey, listen, I

1406
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: think you got a voice and you've got a story

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01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 1: that people are gonna listen to and they're gonna connect

1408
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 1: with and they're gonna respond to you, because sometimes people

1409
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 1: don't respond to people. They're just coming there with a

1410
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: suiting time say hey, you can do this, you can

1411
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 1: turn out like me. And I'm just showing people listen,

1412
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 1: I'm where you're at. I might be doing a little

1413
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 1: better than you might be doing, but let me get

1414
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 1: you there, and what you do, what you're doing, you

1415
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 1: might help me get to other places myself. So I'm

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01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 1: just bringing I just want to bring people along on

1417
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 1: my journey and listen to all help each other out.

1418
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 1: So me being able to talk to you and your

1419
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: listeners might somebody might be feel the same way. I'm

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01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: doing my job and it's helping me when I help

1421
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 1: other people, because I always used to think that I

1422
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 1: was along and now I don't think that no more right,

1423
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: And I agree with you. I'm just letting you know

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01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 1: that that from a standpoint of I'm one of these people,

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01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: you know, my my, My triggers are tied to you know,

1426
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: people expectations. I guess, uh, not being able to show weakness.

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01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'm just taking upon myself to say I

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01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 1: can't show a weakness and I can properly show it

1429
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 1: and just everybody's cool with it. But I do know

1430
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 1: when you lead and you're at a high level, then

1431
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 1: people will look at you differently if you admit flaws,

1432
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: and they would once they started questioning you based on

1433
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 1: that flaw, then they could lead to other things. And

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01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 1: so what gets me is like I want to just

1435
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: emphasize to you, if you ever come down to the

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01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 1: Atlanta area, please, I'm gonna give you my number and

1437
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 1: come by my come by my backyard. Actually we were

1438
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 1: just sat out there and look at the water a

1439
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 1: little bit, and I got some real and rodd. I

1440
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever fished, you know when you

1441
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 1: catch the fishery throw it back in the water. So

1442
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's just it's just fun and relaxing.

1443
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 1: And I think that that's what I'm just offering to you,

1444
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 1: is that you know, these interviews are great, but just

1445
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 1: finding that moment where you can just contry roll it,

1446
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 1: because these interviews don't happen all the time. Like I said,

1447
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: I just know that if if it's if it's going

1448
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: left for me too much, I just walk in my backyard.

1449
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 1: The cable don't have to be working, and I don't

1450
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: have to have a I don't have to open the refrigerator.

1451
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 1: That backyard is there. I can walk out there. If

1452
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 1: it's raining, I can walk out there. If it's snowing,

1453
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 1: I can walk out there. And so that's what helped

1454
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 1: to me. And so if you ever get to the

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01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 1: Atlanta area, you come on down Rashawn's property. Okay, well listen, McDonald,

1456
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:31,959
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. There's nothing wrong with being vulnerable,

1457
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 1: if not weak. It's human. You have a lot of

1458
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: responsibilities and I know you have high expectation, high expectations

1459
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: of yourself, and sometimes we put so much personal on

1460
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 1: so you know that we put our own selves in

1461
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 1: the corner. But I'm do that is okay. You're doing

1462
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:56,759
Speaker 1: great and you have to know that. And it's okay

1463
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: if people understand. Like people, we gotta understand, the stakes

1464
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: is gonna happen, right because we from those we become

1465
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 1: better because of mistakes, who become better? Sometimes we think

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01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 1: everything is how I can't take a ross, I can't

1467
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: make a mistake. That's how we become a better version

1468
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 1: of us. So I'm telling it's okay to be vulnerable.

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01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:21,120
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Speaker 1: your host, Sean McDonald agree with you, you know and

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Speaker 1: I and that's why. But it's hard to lock it

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Speaker 1: into this old brain, Okay, to just show a sign

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Speaker 1: of weakness. Now, That's why I have honest conversations on

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Speaker 1: my show because of the fact that I bring I

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Speaker 1: continue an expert, and in the process of being an expert,

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Speaker 1: I'm able to have honest conversations and allow myself to

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Speaker 1: be challenged because I love it. I love your tone

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Speaker 1: and voors. You stepped up, you know a little bit

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Speaker 1: extra levels of Richard. Hold up now, it's all right. Now.

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Speaker 1: You almost went into preacher mode on me. That I

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Speaker 1: was like, my girl stepped up on me. Girl? Wow?

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Speaker 1: And uh and I love it. So here's a question

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Speaker 1: that I wanted to bring to Why do you think

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01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,679
Speaker 1: it's so important to encourage other people, especially young people?

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Speaker 1: This is the key in this conversation through words. Is

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Speaker 1: this type of encouragement something you felt you didn't receive

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Speaker 1: growing up? That type of encouragement because I always tell people,

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Speaker 1: you know, I have a daughter, you know, she's twenty

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Speaker 1: four now, and I can remember all she was was

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Speaker 1: just a blank slate and if I said something jarring

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Speaker 1: to her, then she reacted physically, almost stunned. So how

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Speaker 1: important it is to have a positive lifestyle towards young

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Speaker 1: people as they as they ascend into adulthood. It's very important.

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Speaker 1: Words carry power and people can hold on words. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: people get physically abused. Sometimes some scars can go away,

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01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 1: and sometimes words, you know, the words can be internal

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Speaker 1: scars in your heart. And just kids got it. You know,

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Speaker 1: when I wrote I Mad, I voted in the base

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01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 1: of what I wanted to hear what I needed to

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Speaker 1: hear when I was six shared or that I met

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Speaker 1: that I deserved you know, you know, I deserve to

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Speaker 1: be treated good. I deserve to be loved, that I

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01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 1: am worthy. And these kids need to understand, especially in

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01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 1: the times that we've done with today. Um, we gotta

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01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: push and challenge our children, but we also gotta let

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01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 1: them know their love and they need to appreciate being

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01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 1: themselves because so many children are aspiring to look and

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01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 1: be like someone else that they're not even living in

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01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 1: their own skin. They're living for other people. And so

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01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 1: that's why we have to encourage them and be positive

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01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 1: that you have something special about you, how to bring

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01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 1: it out because a lot of kids are trying to

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Speaker 1: just they don't. I want to be this person. I

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01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:47,600
Speaker 1: want to be this person though, be you and just

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01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 1: be the best version of you, and people want to

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01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 1: love you, and I matter. Which is a is an

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Speaker 1: interactive is animation is an animated type book. John it's

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01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 1: color it's a color book. Is gonna say it's animated,

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01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 1: but interactive books. They're gonna write in it and they

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01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 1: can change because their life can change. They can grow.

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01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:12,560
Speaker 1: It's like I have something that says I'm going to

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01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 1: be the next you say, you know, politics and President Lawy,

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Speaker 1: your doctor. It can always change, so they can always

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Speaker 1: erase it and change because your dreams can change, or

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01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, your goals can change. So I made it

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01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 1: interactive where it can write in it. I put a

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Speaker 1: pledge in there, nothing that they can go by it,

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01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: something to like, you know, this is my mission statement,

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01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 1: this is my pledge. This is who I am. You

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01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 1: know when I when I see a book like this,

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01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 1: and I see and I'm talking to you, and the

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01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: whole process is that, Okay, you have an idea, correct Ashley,

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01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 1: and then this idea has to be sold to somebody

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01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,600
Speaker 1: and convinced that this has value, you know. And that

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01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 1: tells me you have a unique talent because a lot

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01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:55,600
Speaker 1: of people want to do what you do. They just

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01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: start doing at the level that you're doing. What's the

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01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: ultimate plan? Because you're you're a very good talker, you

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01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 1: know your your your passion, you have motivation, and you

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01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 1: want to mentor individuals to be successful or to come

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Speaker 1: out of those lanes of darkness with a plan. What

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01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 1: is your plan when you talk to people about going

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01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:18,759
Speaker 1: to the next step? Ashley Woods I'm talking to Ashley Woods.

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Speaker 1: Her book I Matter, which is just released book new book,

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01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 1: which is an interactive book of affirmations for the youth,

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Speaker 1: utilize in the alphabet, explores positive words and uplift and

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01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:31,560
Speaker 1: encourage all readers. I Matter allows you to customize the

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Speaker 1: confirmation and reinforce through our youth how great they are. Wow,

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Speaker 1: you make me understand that they're more Ashley needed in

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Speaker 1: this world. Its Woods, thank you. I appreciate that. That's

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Speaker 1: a good day. That it really do. And and that's

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01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 1: the thing when when people say things like that, it

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Speaker 1: drives me, It wants me to seed and gives back more.

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Speaker 1: And the plan is just to have people that don't know,

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Speaker 1: you know, don't know their words or value or don't

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01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: feel like you know their life is not a mountain

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Speaker 1: uphing anything that it can. You can always change the story.

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Speaker 1: You can change your story. You've gotta believe in yourself

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01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 1: and you gotta put yourself around you know, positive people.

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01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 1: You gotta yeah our focus and it's it's hard, it's

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01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 1: easier said than done. But um, the goal is when

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01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 1: I speak to people, whether they feel like they should

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01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 1: be diagnosed or not, that they have a better understanding

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01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 1: mental health, that they don't judge, they don't stigmatize, they

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01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:40,440
Speaker 1: don't look down on people, don't look down on themselves,

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Speaker 1: and you don't have to understand everybody's story and path,

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01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 1: but just resuspected. That's how we want respect when it

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01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 1: comes to equality and racism. You know, people dealing with

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01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 1: mental health issues want the same respect as well. We know,

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01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 1: doing the pandemic or that, a lot of isolation, a

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Speaker 1: lot of things you wanted to do you couldn't do,

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01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 1: cut you were shut down for two months? How did that?

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01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 1: How did you deal with that? And how did the

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01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 1: people that you mentored along the way to stay positive?

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01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 1: To deal with this whole pandemic that's ongoing. Civil rest

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01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 1: is ongoing, Uh, the economy is fractured. Were you at

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Speaker 1: mentally and the people you're trying to support that mentally

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Speaker 1: doing this really period of unrest emotionally, physically, financially, and

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Speaker 1: health wise. That's why I'm here and that's where it

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Speaker 1: came out. During the pandemic, I tooked to people through

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Speaker 1: social media, whether it was like Facebook, Messenger or within

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Speaker 1: the DM know. I post up funny stuff on my

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01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 1: page and I just made myself accessible to people. I

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01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,640
Speaker 1: always told people if you need to talk to me,

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01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 1: if you want to vent, I'm here, And that's the

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Speaker 1: motion you could, you know, you could though, And I

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01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 1: try to, you know, stay busy during the pandemicause too

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Speaker 1: much time when again sometimes not the campea good or something.

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Speaker 1: So I also try to stay busy and I always

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Speaker 1: try to just stay ready for whatever it's gonna come,

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01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 1: you know, come my way, you know, paid attention what

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01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 1: was going on news. And I also became you know,

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01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 1: engaged in the movement of George Floyd uh and Brianna Teller,

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01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 1: and you know, I just learned. I read a lot

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01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 1: more and I just encouraged people to a lot of people,

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01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 1: you know, where everything was going on. Some people, we

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01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 1: got some millionaires that's gonna come out of this pandemic

1619
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 1: because they dig deep down and found some hustles to

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01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:42,719
Speaker 1: make it and provide for their family. So the country's

1621
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 1: going through difficult times. But I think some people, when

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Speaker 1: it's all centers, that is going to really come out

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01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 1: on top. But for me, I wrote and I spread up,

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01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 1: you know, and that's that's the best thing that I

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01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 1: can do. Spread love, be positive and write actually your

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01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 1: new book, I matter you utilize the alphabet? Why the alphabet, Well,

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01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:08,639
Speaker 1: it's something that's like that's my thing where it comes

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01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 1: to kids, because I I, you know, I was a

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01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 1: substitute teacher and I just used to see as for

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Speaker 1: appoob is for boy, and I right, oh god, that's

1631
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 1: it's so cliche, and so I wanted to change it up.

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Speaker 1: And so in my books, like the first letters like

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Speaker 1: I am awesome, and there's like to be I am

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Speaker 1: breede me. You know, I just put um, I mad her,

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01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm mad her because I need the kids to write

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01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 1: down you know why the legendary words that they don't

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01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 1: hear every day where is that they only see like

1638
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, celebrities and superstars say about themselves. You can

1639
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,560
Speaker 1: say that about yourself till you gotta claim it. You

1640
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 1: gotta see things before they all they come, you know,

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Speaker 1: come to nutrition pho pho M. I try, I can't

1642
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 1: get the word out about but you gotta you gotta

1643
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 1: see it before it even happened. So I just went

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01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 1: through the alphabet because I just felt like it's a

1645
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 1: creative way of you know, getting kids to still understand

1646
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 1: the alphabet will also learning new words average words. Now

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01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 1: these words of information and new positive words, words that

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01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 1: some kids might not really here all the time. You absolutely,

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01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 1: I I just forgot to ask for alphabets with books.

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01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 1: See if a cad D a dog, you know it's

1651
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,599
Speaker 1: an elephant, you know, GF for draft. I'm just going through.

1652
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 1: I've forgotten about all those words that was tied to

1653
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,720
Speaker 1: a letter. And you just go, okay, let's let's just

1654
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 1: just give different words. Let's advances a little bit more.

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01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 1: Let's let's word and means something. Who sees an elephant

1656
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 1: unless you go to a zoo? Who sees a giraffe?

1657
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 1: Unless you go to a zoo? Put words in They're awesome,

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01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 1: you know though, the these are words that that what

1659
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 1: kid needs to see. This is what we call, as

1660
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 1: they say, you put on your mirror affirmation statements that

1661
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:00,640
Speaker 1: make you feel good about your self and make you

1662
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 1: embolden you to be a better person than you were

1663
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 1: the day before. That's awesome. I I really appreciate that

1664
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:09,600
Speaker 1: because that that was a trigger for me, because I

1665
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:11,640
Speaker 1: forgot when I asked you that question. I forgot that

1666
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 1: it is for aphobeans for you know, I forgot that

1667
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:17,679
Speaker 1: little simple rhyme that's stuck in my head all these years.

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Speaker 1: Was really married to. If you're you're trying to say,

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01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:22,720
Speaker 1: let's let's put new words in there, looks put new words.

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01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 1: And these new words are words that that matter emotionally,

1671
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 1: that it will uplift you, that will motivate you to

1672
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 1: be a better person and think you can do better

1673
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 1: things with your life. Awesome, awesome, Hello, Yes, Actually I

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Speaker 1: hope I didn't frighten you. That's an awesome I was

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Speaker 1: just I was just chilling and I was just that.

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Speaker 1: That's I'm fired with that. That's great. That's really a

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01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 1: that's an impressive approach to the whole matter. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm almost mad that I'm just stuck on that the

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01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:03,560
Speaker 1: whole process. I need these new words. It. Yes, I

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01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 1: don't know. I just thought it'll be a better spence.

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01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:10,760
Speaker 1: It's a better, a much better, much better. And this

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Speaker 1: is what we gonna do. I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna put your book link to purchase in my news

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Speaker 1: letter that goes out this week, goes out to eighty

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Speaker 1: thousand subscribers. Okay, and I am going to post you

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Speaker 1: on my social media because this is a brand that

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Speaker 1: needs to be um taking very seriously the approach and

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Speaker 1: then new and really kind of like re educating ourself

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Speaker 1: on a new approach of how to perceive or to

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Speaker 1: understand what the approbets and bring new value to us

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Speaker 1: in one moving forward. Now. Actually, great, thank you for

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Speaker 1: coming on my show. Thank you so much, Mr McDonald.

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Speaker 1: It was a pleasure. Well, you know, it was honor

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Speaker 1: because we got to have a good conversation. You got

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Speaker 1: a conversation about me. You're motivated me a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You told me to step up. Don't worry about the rashan.

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Speaker 1: You know it's all right. There's a writer to let

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Speaker 1: down reality and let let other people know that you're

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Speaker 1: You know that because we sometimes live a life of that.

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01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 1: That pressure is interesting because you know you can get

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Speaker 1: there and you go, I can't let people know that

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01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:16,560
Speaker 1: I made a mistake, or I can't let people know

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01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 1: I'm flawed, And all these things lead to trauma. All

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Speaker 1: these leads to delete, to emotional setback and leads to

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Speaker 1: functional behavior. Relationships can lead to you mistreatment or people

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Speaker 1: that you love can shut you down from communicating with

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Speaker 1: your kids. And that's all you're saying, that's all this

1708
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Speaker 1: interview was talking about was being able to understand these triggers.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you can control them if you recognize them early on.

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Speaker 1: That's all you're saying. Correct, Yeah, I'm saying that, and

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Speaker 1: I'm also saying that I'm going to take you up

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Speaker 1: on the back your assession. Here. I'm gonna just tell

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Speaker 1: you right now, don't you play with me, Ashley, don't

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Speaker 1: you play. I'm gonna tell you something. Uh we hang

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Speaker 1: up the phone here and then if you know, you

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01:35:57,920 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 1: go nowhere, I'm gonna close out the show. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get you myself number. I only have one sale number.

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Speaker 1: You can't run me off my phone, Okay, I don't

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Speaker 1: change phones and people. I'm so city for bugging me.

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Speaker 1: Can you keep trying to bug me? I will just

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Speaker 1: keep my number and keep answering, going hello and so

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Speaker 1: when you when you when you? When? When we when

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Speaker 1: we fined to wrap up this call? What we're doing

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01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 1: right now? Ashally, I want to thank you for coming

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Speaker 1: on my show. You're a fantastic She has a new

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Speaker 1: is for Apple no no, no, it is for awesome.

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Speaker 1: In her book, it explores positive words that uplift and

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Speaker 1: encourage all readers. I Matter allows you to customer eyes

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Speaker 1: that confirmation and reinforced to ore you how great they are. Ashley,

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming on my show. Than Cool. We'll

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Speaker 1: be right back with more from Macha McDonald and money

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Speaker 1: making conversations don't touch that down. Oregon donations save lives

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Speaker 1: August as National Minority Donor Awareness Months. So let's check

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Speaker 1: in with Dr Denay Simpson, Assistant Professor of Surgery at

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Speaker 1: Northwestern Medicine, tell us about the African American Transplant Access Program.

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Speaker 1: So this is my baby. This is a program that

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Speaker 1: I have dreamt about creating since I became interested in

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Speaker 1: transplant as a trainee, and it's a program designed to

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Speaker 1: address the significant disparities that are African American patients space.

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Speaker 1: The program is designed to educate patients about transplant, let

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Speaker 1: them know what transplant can provide to them, and to

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Speaker 1: help them access the resources that they find so scarce

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Speaker 1: and so challenging to access in order to get them

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Speaker 1: on the transplant path and back to you know some

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Speaker 1: type of meaningful life. For more information, visit n M

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Speaker 1: dot org, Slash Radio. I am ra Sean McDonald, the

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Speaker 1: host of Money Making Conversation dot com. The Cafe Marca

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Speaker 1: Squag Award is a celebration of black men will make

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Speaker 1: it a difference in our community by empowering others to

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Speaker 1: reach their life goals for sacifically. This businessman activists, celebrities

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Speaker 1: of this week is Woley Coasing. Wole is the founder

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Speaker 1: and chief executive officer of Mobility Capital Finance. Mobility Capital

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Speaker 1: Finance has an innovative banking app that is helping the

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Speaker 1: minority community with their credit scores, direct deposits, and provides

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Speaker 1: a debit master card and all of the bank accounts

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Speaker 1: or f D I c ensured. I was one of

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Speaker 1: the most senior black people at JP Morgan. I realized

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Speaker 1: that where I was sitting, I was not in a

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01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:36,760
Speaker 1: position to impact my community with being in conversations with

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01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:41,720
Speaker 1: people talking about the problem and not really having tangible solutions.

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01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 1: And I said, let me take this training and see

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Speaker 1: if I can bring it back to my community. The

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Speaker 1: Cafe Mocha Swagger Award represents men who have strength, whose

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Speaker 1: wisdom is assertive, and who is genuine in their spirit.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Money Making Conversations. I'm your host, Sean

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01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:59,919
Speaker 1: McDonald My next guest. Terence Wheeler is a highly respected

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01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: professional with over twenty years of experience and community relations

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01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:08,480
Speaker 1: and philanthropic activities, specializing in community outreach and corporate partnerships.

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01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 1: His greatest passion is helping enrich the lives of at

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01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 1: rich young people and communities throughout metropolitan Detroit area. Some

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01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 1: of his notable charitable events include Back to School Supply Drive,

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01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:24,800
Speaker 1: Phenomon Hygiene Campaign, All Star Give Back, Turkey Drive, just

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01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:28,280
Speaker 1: to name a few. Mr Wheelers often seen speaking and

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01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 1: motivating young people in the Detroit area schools with a

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01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 1: simple mission to alleviate the non academic barriers to education.

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Speaker 1: Please work with the money Making conversation, my man, Terrence Wheeler,

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01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:45,760
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Hey man. First of all, you know, um,

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01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 1: you know, we've been knowing each other years, hadn't seen

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01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 1: each other in years. But it's a blessing talk about

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01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:55,759
Speaker 1: absolutely man, I'm talking about man. Uh, this a long

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01:39:56,040 --> 01:40:00,400
Speaker 1: history and you're one of the buzzs. Man, that inspired me, Uh,

1786
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 1: like I want to do for so many other young

1787
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 1: brothers to not give up. How do you reinvent yourself

1788
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 1: as a former athlete? When I see you, Man, I

1789
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 1: actually see God moving. I said, Well, if he could

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01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:12,880
Speaker 1: do it for Rashaan, he could do it for me.

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01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 1: I just gotta stick with it and trust my purpose

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01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:17,840
Speaker 1: and continue to walk in that purpose and never be

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01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 1: never be uh apologetic about my gifts by my success.

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01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 1: Unusually unwavering and committed. You're doing the best that I

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01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 1: can do each and every day, and you do a

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01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,280
Speaker 1: great job at it and that thing within the community.

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01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 1: Because let's talk about this. This year has had to

1798
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:35,479
Speaker 1: spend the most challenging year, I'm sure for all your

1799
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 1: childable efforts to social arrest the COVID nineteen. So let's talk.

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Speaker 1: Let's move. We'll step back before you respond, why was

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01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:47,640
Speaker 1: why is this mission of uplifting the community philanthropic activities

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01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 1: important to you and the Detroit community? Well, you know,

1803
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:53,120
Speaker 1: I was a child of poverty, man. I grew up

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01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 1: like a lot of young brothers. Uh, mother on drugs,

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01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 1: the father that was absolutely I spent a total of

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01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:00,599
Speaker 1: four hours my entire life of my father and three

1807
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 1: of those who I was at his funeral, And so

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01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 1: I was just blessed to have a good grandfather, some uncles,

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01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:08,479
Speaker 1: and a hell of a basketball coach that really gave

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01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,680
Speaker 1: me confidence and saw some ability in me. And I said, Lord,

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01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 1: if I'm ever in a position, I want to use

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Speaker 1: that position to help other people, other children who think

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01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:18,759
Speaker 1: that they can't make it based on one this situation.

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01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:21,879
Speaker 1: Because life is not about your conditions. It's your decision

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01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 1: making that determines your destiny. Use some of those things

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01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 1: in your community as motivating factors for you to get

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01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 1: out of there and come back and save somebody else.

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01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 1: And so my mother's drug use made me want to

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01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:35,880
Speaker 1: become academically as a stellar in terms of academics because

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01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 1: I didn't want her to come into the school for

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01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:40,760
Speaker 1: any reason of my behavior of my brain, because she

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01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 1: was a drug ad. And I grew up in the

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01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:45,879
Speaker 1: dope house man where we uh sold Tallers values writtling

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01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:48,600
Speaker 1: method on all the way up to heroin. And so

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01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:50,880
Speaker 1: I moved with my grandmother at the age of twelve,

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Speaker 1: uh and in beside to turn around because I had

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01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:56,760
Speaker 1: more of a stable home environment. Wasn't you know, our

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01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 1: house is to get ready with my mother and things

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01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 1: that nature. Eviction. Uh. Sometimes you you're you're home and

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01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 1: you're homeless, so you're not thinking about homework, you're thinking

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01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:07,639
Speaker 1: about survival. Wasn't. So I went to my grandmother's house

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01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 1: where I saw stability and my grandfather just working hard

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01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:13,840
Speaker 1: to provide for his family. My grandmother gave me a

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01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:16,760
Speaker 1: lot of tools in terms of social skills and how

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01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 1: to deal with people. Uh. And so that's why I'm

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01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:22,559
Speaker 1: able to do things I'm doing today, man, because my grandmother. Well,

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01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:25,799
Speaker 1: when I met you, you know, that's when you Derrick Coleman,

1838
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 1: I was with Steve Harvey was up in New York too.

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01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 1: Every time we went up there, we connected, you know,

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01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:32,680
Speaker 1: eating something great detruit restaurant. Boy, I tell you, boy,

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01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 1: we eat some food up there. Ter lovely, come up

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01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:41,000
Speaker 1: there and eat at the tru And also, you know,

1843
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: go shoe shopping, Go shoe shopping. Come on Glis man, Yes, man,

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01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 1: go see water over at up that place. Man, you

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01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 1: know the name, you know the names and h that

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01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 1: was the fun part of our relationship. But you know,

1847
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:56,840
Speaker 1: it was always coming up there where there's a broadcast

1848
01:42:56,920 --> 01:42:58,680
Speaker 1: and always talking about what we can do with the

1849
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:01,560
Speaker 1: Turkey drives up there with you guys man and in

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01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:04,760
Speaker 1: the Detroit area with the local radio affiliate. So let's

1851
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 1: talk about first your back to school supply drive. What

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01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:12,960
Speaker 1: started that and how can one help when the next

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01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 1: year are or do you do it doing the spring

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01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 1: or you just do it during the August month when

1855
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 1: they're going back to school and when we're doing in August, Rashan,

1856
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 1: because man, I'm asking for so all years, so I

1857
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 1: got to kind of targeted month where stacentric programs are

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01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:29,840
Speaker 1: going on. So the back to School Valley, it's really

1859
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 1: an opportunity to bring families together before schools start. They

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01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 1: got free haircuts. Also put not just school supplies in

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01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:40,559
Speaker 1: the backpack, I put toiletries because Rashan, some kids are

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01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 1: living in shelters. Some kids are living on the couch,

1863
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 1: friends or families. So we want to make sure they

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01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 1: have adult white, They got the older with, they got

1865
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 1: body washed, all the things that they need so they

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01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 1: can start school. Because no kid wants to come to

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01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 1: school not having the tombs they need to be successful.

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01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:59,600
Speaker 1: We want to encourage kids to receive that translates of

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01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:02,599
Speaker 1: education and you only do that when you feel well equipped,

1870
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:05,240
Speaker 1: when you feel well prepared, and so we want kids

1871
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 1: to be prepared, want you to look good, get your

1872
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 1: hair covered, Mont feeds you, so there's no excuse for

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01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:12,600
Speaker 1: you not to go to school. So my job is

1874
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:16,760
Speaker 1: to alleviate these non academic various education and so these

1875
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:19,920
Speaker 1: programs I started out of pain because young people are

1876
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:21,720
Speaker 1: talking to me. Hey, I need this, Mr Ward. I

1877
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:24,160
Speaker 1: mean that to your job as an adult is to

1878
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 1: get those things close the gap that this kid just

1879
01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:29,880
Speaker 1: focused on school and not have to worry about the

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01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 1: adults with vacation. I got a program with our energy company,

1881
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 1: so therefore we can get in front of the light field.

1882
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:38,160
Speaker 1: You can get in front of the gas feel before

1883
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 1: those winter months, get that mother and father on a

1884
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:43,639
Speaker 1: payment plan on some type of programs for the lights

1885
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 1: and gas are not cut off. Because these kids are

1886
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 1: coming to me at eight o'clock in the morning payment

1887
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:49,600
Speaker 1: through the the lights and gas cut off. Now, this

1888
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:51,680
Speaker 1: kid is trying to figure out all day, how can

1889
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:53,679
Speaker 1: he help his mom or exadly, let's get in front

1890
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 1: of let's be proactive, let's help young people achieve their goals.

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01:44:57,920 --> 01:45:00,680
Speaker 1: You're so true because young people should not have to

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01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 1: worry about electricity. I was laughing at my wife. You know,

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01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:05,720
Speaker 1: I live in Atlanta and I live in Houston, and

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01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 1: they drove back this weekend too to Houston. My daughter

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01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 1: drove about seven of the of the twelve hours to

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01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:14,200
Speaker 1: drive back. And then my wife, you know, she got

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Speaker 1: up earlier on Sunday morning by ten o'clock and my

1898
01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:19,680
Speaker 1: daughter was still in bed. And I said, she said, uh,

1899
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:21,599
Speaker 1: look at it, she's still sleep I said, he baby.

1900
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:23,759
Speaker 1: First of all, you know, she's a senior in college.

1901
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 1: She's doing fantastic. She lives in a really good household.

1902
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 1: She doesn't have to worry about anything. I said. The

1903
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 1: only reason we get up out of bed because worry

1904
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 1: gets outside of bed. You know, thoughts of how to

1905
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:35,679
Speaker 1: pay a bill, how to put food on the table,

1906
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,720
Speaker 1: or rent our children, or your life. That's what gets

1907
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:40,760
Speaker 1: us out of bed. Otherwise we stay in bed too.

1908
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 1: But that's what young people shouldn't only have to worry

1909
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 1: about this. You only worry about Academics worry about dreams,

1910
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 1: dreaming the impossible and making it come true. And that's

1911
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 1: why I really appreciate it. But really, finally getting you

1912
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 1: on the show, at the time in my life where

1913
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm I feel I'm complete, I feel I'm whole, and

1914
01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:00,160
Speaker 1: I can come back into your life and make make

1915
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 1: be a benefit, you know, being an asset to what

1916
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 1: you're doing up in the Detroit area. And that's really key.

1917
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:07,599
Speaker 1: When I hear you say, you know a kid coming

1918
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 1: to you eight o'clock more talking about my I don't

1919
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:11,800
Speaker 1: know if I can get I got bill only my

1920
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 1: life is going to be on That should not be

1921
01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:16,880
Speaker 1: a child's word. A child's words should be you know

1922
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:19,920
Speaker 1: what the baseball score was? What were the football score was?

1923
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:22,040
Speaker 1: You know what? What what my grades are going to

1924
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 1: be in school? What I gotta wear that allows in

1925
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 1: the function normal. If they are not allowed the function

1926
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:31,280
Speaker 1: normal at a young age, then become a very dysfunction

1927
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 1: on adult. And that's what you're trying to stop. Let

1928
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 1: me sell you a quick story, brother. So you know

1929
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:40,600
Speaker 1: right now we're doing they're doing remote learning. Okay, So

1930
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:44,720
Speaker 1: we're asking kids for shan to compete worldwide when they

1931
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:48,639
Speaker 1: can't connect locally. When kids don't have internet, don't have hotspot,

1932
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:52,040
Speaker 1: don't have Chrome books. Some kids are in transition. I

1933
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:54,720
Speaker 1: had an educator called me last week and say hey,

1934
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:58,479
Speaker 1: I got a kid that's doing the zoom in the bed. Now,

1935
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:00,760
Speaker 1: your first thought will be, this kid is in the

1936
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:03,000
Speaker 1: bed because he don't want to be seen. No, let's

1937
01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 1: kill the onion back. This kid is in the bed

1938
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:07,640
Speaker 1: with Sean because they have no furniture. Bed is the

1939
01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 1: only person he has. So what I'm gonna do tomorrow

1940
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 1: or wedndsy is I'm going to complete the deal with

1941
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 1: the furniture place and at least get this kid a

1942
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 1: din at table. That table gives them the opportunity to

1943
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 1: have family dinner. You can now set up. Your posture

1944
01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:24,720
Speaker 1: is better and you feel like, you know what, I

1945
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 1: feel good about it? Why are we having kids and conditions?

1946
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:33,200
Speaker 1: That's in humane? Man. There's a pandemic of poverty with Sean.

1947
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 1: Before the coronavirus, my people were suffered. My people were

1948
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 1: making decisions to buy gas, you buy food. How do

1949
01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:45,360
Speaker 1: I survive? Now? This pandemic has done nothing but exacerbate

1950
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:48,280
Speaker 1: what poverty is. And see, one of the things about

1951
01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 1: poverty it limits access to people that can help you

1952
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 1: stop just all about money. People are forgotten about it.

1953
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 1: In particular, River Rouge, Risking, a suburb of Detroit, there's

1954
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 1: more merrible other dispensaries and food I so therefore I

1955
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:06,320
Speaker 1: have to start a mobile food pastry on Wednesdees. But Sean,

1956
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:09,640
Speaker 1: I have people driving forty five minutes each way. Some

1957
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:12,600
Speaker 1: people because the need is so great, they're picking up

1958
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:15,280
Speaker 1: food for themselves and their neighbor. And I'm gonna see

1959
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 1: you a picture of a guy that comes every Wednesday.

1960
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 1: He's uh vetteran with prosthetic laid. He's on a scooter.

1961
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:24,320
Speaker 1: He's sticking a food for him and his neighbor. Another

1962
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:27,080
Speaker 1: brother comes, he just has a suitcase. I said, rememb're

1963
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:29,160
Speaker 1: gonna feel his suitcase up. You can walk back to

1964
01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:32,679
Speaker 1: your apartment. It's less judge and more help. People are hungry,

1965
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 1: and when you're hungry, with you your brain can't even

1966
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:38,639
Speaker 1: function at its full capacity because the blood flowers cut

1967
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:41,840
Speaker 1: off your blood. Your blood, your gluecloases because none of

1968
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:45,639
Speaker 1: your bloody brightest functions at half capacity because you're hungry.

1969
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:49,240
Speaker 1: And when you're hungry, man, that's a that's a pain sensation.

1970
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:52,080
Speaker 1: But the food insecurity is a lack of access that

1971
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:55,960
Speaker 1: could resources that can economics. So my job is to

1972
01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:59,439
Speaker 1: figure out how do we help the community as a whole.

1973
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 1: You know, mom and daddy, you can help the kids

1974
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:05,200
Speaker 1: because the kid has this stress that they should not have.

1975
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:07,280
Speaker 1: To your point, those kids should be here to go

1976
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 1: to sleep at night, get up in the morning. I'll

1977
01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 1: worry about being touched in them in the middle of

1978
01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:15,840
Speaker 1: night by the step father, being evicted, being without lights

1979
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 1: and gas. Man, you don't have lights and gas and detra.

1980
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 1: But that's a problem right coming. You know a lot

1981
01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 1: of people realize it gets hot in Detroit, to it

1982
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:29,720
Speaker 1: gets it gets hot up there. A lot of people

1983
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 1: just they don't get they get hot up there, get

1984
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:34,120
Speaker 1: hot in New York to trot ch cargo all those

1985
01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:36,439
Speaker 1: numbers up there and human as you say. And that's

1986
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 1: you know when I when I think about first of all, Terrence,

1987
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:43,080
Speaker 1: your your passion and your articulation is outstanding man. And

1988
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 1: uh and I'm mad now that this first time I've

1989
01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:48,519
Speaker 1: had you on my show. So you guys to be

1990
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:50,640
Speaker 1: a regular man. You know you might be one of

1991
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:52,640
Speaker 1: my I always tell people, Man, I bring people in

1992
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:55,280
Speaker 1: my life, Terrence that motivate me. You know what I'm saying.

1993
01:49:55,320 --> 01:50:00,120
Speaker 1: I'd be going back talk for a minute now and

1994
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:02,240
Speaker 1: to shout out to your point, man, I'm out of

1995
01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:06,240
Speaker 1: space man, where I just feel like you get four

1996
01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:07,680
Speaker 1: types of people to come in your life. Though the

1997
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:12,040
Speaker 1: ads attract multipplied divide. I need more addition and multiplication,

1998
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:14,760
Speaker 1: less substraction in the visit because God got me on

1999
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:17,120
Speaker 1: the flight that I prayed on the side. I prayed

2000
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:19,639
Speaker 1: on this flight to be able to make an indelible impact,

2001
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:21,639
Speaker 1: to be that guy to say, you know what. Mr

2002
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:24,080
Speaker 1: Willia inspired me not to give up the reason why

2003
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 1: I come to school. He supplied my need. You don't

2004
01:50:26,479 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 1: owe me nothing, give it back to somebody else, because

2005
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 1: so many helped me. I stand on the shoulders a giant.

2006
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you a story, man. I was ten

2007
01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:37,040
Speaker 1: years old, traveled to New Orleans and see my grandfather.

2008
01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:39,560
Speaker 1: I got there on the Wednesday night, was shone. On

2009
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:42,880
Speaker 1: Thursday night, I went to sleep. This guy was tied

2010
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:45,719
Speaker 1: up and shot twice. I slept through the whole ordeal.

2011
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling you my life is down in vain. I

2012
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:51,920
Speaker 1: cannot afford to not do good work. My life has

2013
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 1: been spared, man, So I gotta make sure that i'm

2014
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:57,200
Speaker 1: every day. How am I helping people? How am I

2015
01:50:57,320 --> 01:51:00,200
Speaker 1: helping people? Because in this life when we go doing

2016
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:04,559
Speaker 1: success sometimes and a black community, uh is survivor's remorse

2017
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:06,560
Speaker 1: or you think you all that? No, no, that's what

2018
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 1: you think. I just read a different decision. I want

2019
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:12,400
Speaker 1: my life to be positive. As a former athletes. Two

2020
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:17,400
Speaker 1: things I got from basketball discipline and accountability. Man, those

2021
01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:19,880
Speaker 1: two factors are prevalent in my life. If you just

2022
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:21,760
Speaker 1: when you get up at the stay a certain times

2023
01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:25,679
Speaker 1: every morning, and you consistent, you hold yourself accountable. Conceive brother,

2024
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:30,600
Speaker 1: real growth is holding yourself accountable. True self care is

2025
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:33,880
Speaker 1: I'm allowing myself to grace, to make the mistake, I'll

2026
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 1: get back at it again in the mall. Man. So

2027
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 1: guys like you man inspired me so much man that

2028
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, what Sean is? I remember with Sean

2029
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:46,120
Speaker 1: ninety two point three. I remember that situation. I remember

2030
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 1: you're going dominating the sea markets, brother, running that now

2031
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:53,800
Speaker 1: nasty syndicated shows and movies and everything that I said. Ship,

2032
01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 1: and I just gotta make sure I'm staying in the game.

2033
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:59,560
Speaker 1: I say, connect to this brother somehow, some way to

2034
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:03,600
Speaker 1: suit man. Listen, bro, I was there, man, and I

2035
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 1: just appreciate your humble his brother. But you're a bad man.

2036
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm blest to have. Every time I tech, you hit

2037
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:12,800
Speaker 1: me back. So I'm blest to have that connectivity man.

2038
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:15,800
Speaker 1: Because there's a thing called overflow. Brother, I believe in it,

2039
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 1: and I'm not appreciated in any shape before. Brother, But

2040
01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:23,799
Speaker 1: topers thirteen and four residents with me is the soul

2041
01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:27,080
Speaker 1: of a lazy man desires that has nothing but the

2042
01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:29,400
Speaker 1: soul of a villager man shall be may rich. I

2043
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:31,599
Speaker 1: will never be as much as Bill Gates. So I'm

2044
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:34,719
Speaker 1: gonna be rich and and love and empathy for my people.

2045
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:38,760
Speaker 1: You know that's absolutely the truth. And that's for driving me.

2046
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 1: Here's here's the thing that I love listening to you

2047
01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 1: because you have your spirit, you have your point of view,

2048
01:52:44,320 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 1: and you know, the thing about it is that let's

2049
01:52:46,479 --> 01:52:49,880
Speaker 1: let's take everybody on the journey. When we've met used

2050
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:54,120
Speaker 1: with Derrick Coleman, NBA superstar, Okay sarrac Us or everybody

2051
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:56,559
Speaker 1: knowing the history of him, you're tried native. And then

2052
01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:59,160
Speaker 1: I was with Steve Harvy and we were building their brand,

2053
01:52:59,240 --> 01:53:02,519
Speaker 1: shaping their brain and you know, yours only philanthropic side

2054
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 1: for Derrick Coleman, mine was just on the global media

2055
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:08,640
Speaker 1: side with Steve as well as philanthropic. Okay, fast forward now,

2056
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:10,559
Speaker 1: and I said that the earlier part of the call.

2057
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:13,720
Speaker 1: You know I have my voice. I know exactly who

2058
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:15,960
Speaker 1: was selling McDonald was. I know exactly what I'm trying

2059
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 1: to do. I know my relationships, all of them are

2060
01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:20,040
Speaker 1: very good, and my relationships in the past I've been

2061
01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:23,360
Speaker 1: very good. When I hear you talk, I hear a

2062
01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 1: clean point of view about what you want to do

2063
01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:28,880
Speaker 1: for the people from your point of view, and there's

2064
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:30,880
Speaker 1: nobody stopping you. Because a lot of times when you

2065
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 1: work with other people, you have to go what do

2066
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:33,680
Speaker 1: you want to do? What do you want to do?

2067
01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 1: And it's not your vision that you're shaping. You're shaping

2068
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:39,400
Speaker 1: their vision. Their vision and action may not move at

2069
01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:41,719
Speaker 1: the page that you wanted to move. And I'm hearing

2070
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 1: an indomitable and the dominable pace of of I can

2071
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:48,840
Speaker 1: get it down now. I got the relationships. How did

2072
01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:51,680
Speaker 1: it get to this point in your life? Terms? Man?

2073
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:54,760
Speaker 1: I remember Sean and I was getting ready to play

2074
01:53:55,960 --> 01:54:01,360
Speaker 1: uh AU Championship under Armstrong. My grandmother said something to me.

2075
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:04,240
Speaker 1: I didn't realize what she was saying at that particular moment,

2076
01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 1: she gave me some money to catch the bus, and

2077
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:09,160
Speaker 1: she says, you're gonna do something great with people. And

2078
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 1: I love my grandma so much. I just said, okay, Grandma. Man,

2079
01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:15,639
Speaker 1: fast forward something ten or fifteen years ago. I'm speaking

2080
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:18,400
Speaker 1: to kids, and the light blow went off. My grandmother

2081
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:21,439
Speaker 1: had prophesies over my life, and she said, you're gonna

2082
01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:23,599
Speaker 1: do this. All the things she said I was going

2083
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:26,560
Speaker 1: to do, I have done. I grew up in the Dopehouse.

2084
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:29,040
Speaker 1: We had to walk from the Dopehouse and now walk

2085
01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:31,120
Speaker 1: the halls to the White House with Obama, that whole

2086
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:33,960
Speaker 1: that that whole, that whole movement. I know how proud

2087
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:37,200
Speaker 1: she would have been to sacrifice. Uh. And so for me,

2088
01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:41,560
Speaker 1: I just said, man, I know my space because I remember, man,

2089
01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:43,560
Speaker 1: when I first moved back to the Straight from Arizona,

2090
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:47,200
Speaker 1: I was calling some of these mentor groups, which I

2091
01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:50,600
Speaker 1: was calling a hundred black men. I was calling Urban League.

2092
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:52,320
Speaker 1: I want to just come to be a partnerment let

2093
01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:55,040
Speaker 1: me help to this day, brother, they never called me

2094
01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:58,160
Speaker 1: back from twenty years later. They never called me. But

2095
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:00,160
Speaker 1: what God did is he forced me to of my

2096
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:03,760
Speaker 1: own thing. He say, you got it, You've got good relationships,

2097
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 1: you up the people you're from there you you know

2098
01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:09,440
Speaker 1: what for these kids? I can build relationships with kids

2099
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:12,560
Speaker 1: with Sean. If you talk to a kid five days

2100
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:15,760
Speaker 1: a week in school, right, that's four weeks. That's twenty

2101
01:55:15,920 --> 01:55:19,320
Speaker 1: contacts you've made with that kid over a five month period,

2102
01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 1: that's a hundred contacts. You and that kid got a relationship.

2103
01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 1: It is that simple. Hi, how you doing with Sean?

2104
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:28,760
Speaker 1: Hey man? How was your week here with Sean? What's yours? Say?

2105
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Rashaan knows you're pouring into him.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to money making conversations. I'm your host, Sean McDonald,

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Speaker 1: And that's key. That's key. I've learned that, especially kids

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01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:20,640
Speaker 1: who have known rejection or disappointment all their lives, what

2143
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:23,080
Speaker 1: you cannot do is like make a solo appearance and

2144
01:57:23,160 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 1: expect them to respect you because they used to that.

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01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:28,120
Speaker 1: They used to. They used to love ones doing them

2146
01:57:28,160 --> 01:57:30,160
Speaker 1: like that. They used to parents doing them like that.

2147
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:32,600
Speaker 1: They used to people just dropping off stuff and go

2148
01:57:32,680 --> 01:57:35,360
Speaker 1: and see you later. They they they don't that there's

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01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:39,400
Speaker 1: nothing loyal about that relationship. So they will they will.

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01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:42,360
Speaker 1: They will battle you, they will fight you, they will

2151
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:45,200
Speaker 1: fight change, they will fight. They won't respect the process.

2152
01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:48,240
Speaker 1: And so we talked about the back to school supply drive,

2153
01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:50,880
Speaker 1: which is outstanding every August, and then I we have

2154
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:54,480
Speaker 1: the hygiene campaign. I have six sisters, so so this

2155
01:57:54,720 --> 01:57:57,360
Speaker 1: is something that I'm very familiar with from from just

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01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:00,000
Speaker 1: just living with six sisters and the importance of hygiene.

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01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:01,800
Speaker 1: And I talked to my daughter about it all the

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01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:04,240
Speaker 1: time as well, letting them know. And she knows, but

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01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:06,160
Speaker 1: you always let them know how important it is to

2160
01:58:06,240 --> 01:58:09,720
Speaker 1: be from a working standpoint, from a relationship standpoint, from

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01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:12,800
Speaker 1: a social standpoint, how important your hygienes are to you

2162
01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:16,200
Speaker 1: talk about the hygiene campaign. Man, I was, I was

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01:58:16,240 --> 01:58:19,080
Speaker 1: getting ready, I was preparing for my annual Turkey drive

2164
01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:21,160
Speaker 1: and I'm in the school. I'm talking. I see a

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01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:23,240
Speaker 1: young lady in the corner and she's crying and I

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01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:24,960
Speaker 1: go to it. Hey, what's going on? She say, I'm

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01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 1: miss reel them on my period. I don't have any

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01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:29,520
Speaker 1: paths of pain lines. So right then I was mad

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01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 1: at myself when she told me this. I said, what

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01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:34,680
Speaker 1: you don't have what you need? I was pissed because

2171
01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:37,320
Speaker 1: I said, how did I fail not to start this program?

2172
01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:39,960
Speaker 1: How do I know how I'm so in tune, But

2173
01:58:40,040 --> 01:58:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm not in tune because I missed this. So I

2174
01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:44,680
Speaker 1: started talking to I said, We're gonna get what you need.

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01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:47,880
Speaker 1: From that day forward, brother, I started a female hid

2176
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:51,040
Speaker 1: in campaign. When we collect feminine products for young ladies,

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01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 1: put them in the school. So now these young ladies

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01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:56,560
Speaker 1: can go see Miss Johnson. So go see miss Tony

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01:58:56,600 --> 01:59:00,240
Speaker 1: where they need to go see discreetly and education. It's

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01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:03,240
Speaker 1: never disrupted. What happens, man, when those young ladies are

2181
01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:05,760
Speaker 1: on the cycle and they don't come to school or

2182
01:59:05,840 --> 01:59:08,400
Speaker 1: they come to school when they come to school, not

2183
01:59:08,600 --> 01:59:11,400
Speaker 1: knowing when it's gonna happen. So okay, now it happens.

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01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:14,200
Speaker 1: So now kids are talking about you. Your body's shame.

2185
01:59:14,640 --> 01:59:16,360
Speaker 1: Now you're not coming to school. Now it leaves the

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01:59:16,440 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 1: chronic absentee of the Michigan ISS top ten in the

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01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:22,000
Speaker 1: country on human trafficing. If we lose those kids to

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01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:24,240
Speaker 1: the streets, sometime they never come back. So I want

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01:59:24,280 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 1: to make sure that we alleviate that barrier to education.

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01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:30,080
Speaker 1: And it's just something simple, man. When I'm go over

2191
01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:32,320
Speaker 1: to the hotel's brother, I just came back from my trip.

2192
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:35,160
Speaker 1: I get all I'll order. I get extra lotion and

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01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:37,960
Speaker 1: and body watch and put it in my backpack and

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01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:39,600
Speaker 1: bring it back home. And I know I'm running to

2195
01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 1: a kid that's gonna leave this stuff. It's not judgment.

2196
01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:45,720
Speaker 1: It's helping these young people, loving them pass their pain,

2197
01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:49,280
Speaker 1: loving them pass the mistake. Because these kids have been

2198
01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:51,720
Speaker 1: on earth two hundred months. They don't know enough for shine.

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01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:54,440
Speaker 1: They don't know, they don't have out the wisdom. They're

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01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:56,960
Speaker 1: trying to survive and they just know that when we

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01:59:57,000 --> 01:59:59,600
Speaker 1: walked to the school building that this is a place

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01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:02,160
Speaker 1: of love up and empathy. And you've done your job.

2203
02:00:02,480 --> 02:00:04,880
Speaker 1: But kid gets the school brothers, they've done their job.

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02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:08,880
Speaker 1: Rests on these adults because he's adults. And to wait,

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02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:11,160
Speaker 1: get somebody in there. You want to love this kid

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02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:14,080
Speaker 1: and see this kid across the finish line. Every kid

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02:00:14,240 --> 02:00:18,560
Speaker 1: needs a champion. Every kid doesn't have a champion. Well

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02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:21,040
Speaker 1: you are one, Terence Wheeler. I'm talking to Terence Wheeler

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Speaker 1: out of the Detroit area. Have been knowing him a

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02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:26,400
Speaker 1: long time, and to think about our relationship. Whenever he

2211
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:28,280
Speaker 1: wanted me to post something, wherever he wanted me to

2212
02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:31,080
Speaker 1: do something for him, I responded back to him. You know,

2213
02:00:31,320 --> 02:00:33,000
Speaker 1: he tells you the truth. Now I don't care. I

2214
02:00:33,160 --> 02:00:35,320
Speaker 1: never was too big not to respond back to his nails.

2215
02:00:35,320 --> 02:00:38,160
Speaker 1: And I only have one phone number one through I

2216
02:00:38,240 --> 02:00:40,080
Speaker 1: only got one phone in my whole life. And they

2217
02:00:40,120 --> 02:00:43,000
Speaker 1: started selling cell phones. I got my cell phone number

2218
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:47,000
Speaker 1: and they've never changed the Terrence. Okay, and so and

2219
02:00:47,080 --> 02:00:50,400
Speaker 1: and and so so. The final program of many programs,

2220
02:00:50,440 --> 02:00:51,760
Speaker 1: and we're just talking about three of them on this

2221
02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:54,840
Speaker 1: show is the All Star give Back Turkey Drive. We

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02:00:54,920 --> 02:00:56,720
Speaker 1: all know when you said Turkey Drive gotta be in

2223
02:00:56,800 --> 02:00:59,520
Speaker 1: no fim because I'm man with Steve Harfen. Now you

2224
02:00:59,560 --> 02:01:04,360
Speaker 1: give out them turkeys, black people, the crows and turkeys. Man,

2225
02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:10,160
Speaker 1: you want to make a black person? Yes, yes, yes, yes,

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02:01:10,640 --> 02:01:14,200
Speaker 1: yes true man. Um. We So when I was me,

2227
02:01:14,360 --> 02:01:17,680
Speaker 1: my mother back in her days of addiction, uh, in

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02:01:17,800 --> 02:01:21,080
Speaker 1: the food supply line, Man, I focus hope and I said,

2229
02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:23,680
Speaker 1: one day I'm gonna be able to give back turkeys. Uh.

2230
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:26,320
Speaker 1: And so me and Derek Covian we started man with

2231
02:01:26,400 --> 02:01:30,040
Speaker 1: two hundred turkeys twenty two years ago and now we're

2232
02:01:30,040 --> 02:01:33,360
Speaker 1: doing five thousand turkeys for all the trimmings for Sean.

2233
02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:36,320
Speaker 1: We talked about we got they get two Kansas, about

2234
02:01:36,360 --> 02:01:39,400
Speaker 1: the mac and cheese, stalk dressing and Jiffy mix in

2235
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:42,240
Speaker 1: a twelve fifteen pound bird. But what we've done is

2236
02:01:42,360 --> 02:01:44,760
Speaker 1: also we've bamped it a little bit from now. I've

2237
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Speaker 1: got health in human services because once again, those same

2238
02:01:47,880 --> 02:01:50,160
Speaker 1: people are in line for a turkey, may need some

2239
02:01:50,280 --> 02:01:53,280
Speaker 1: assistance with their utility bill, may need some assistance with

2240
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Speaker 1: their Rennis assistance, and so we have those agencies there

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02:01:56,880 --> 02:02:00,200
Speaker 1: as well. So now it's the full wraparound services can

2242
02:02:00,240 --> 02:02:03,200
Speaker 1: bide some reprieve for those families. Man, and so it's

2243
02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:05,120
Speaker 1: just one of the best days of my life for

2244
02:02:05,240 --> 02:02:07,160
Speaker 1: that happened. This is the seed A family come in

2245
02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:10,000
Speaker 1: with so much despair and hopeless and we give him

2246
02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:12,240
Speaker 1: a good word. Matthew twenty five and thirty five four

2247
02:02:12,360 --> 02:02:15,400
Speaker 1: was hungry and you gave me something real simple. This is,

2248
02:02:15,480 --> 02:02:18,560
Speaker 1: by far, I can say it humbly, the best turkey

2249
02:02:18,680 --> 02:02:24,400
Speaker 1: drive in that country. I gave out some turkeys, not terce.

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Speaker 1: Now you're talking about you, y'all gave me, man, Come on,

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02:02:27,800 --> 02:02:30,280
Speaker 1: in fact, it is up, Mr. We leave, Mr Coleman. Mr.

2252
02:02:30,360 --> 02:02:35,160
Speaker 1: We not call you about your last name, okay, d C. Okay,

2253
02:02:36,400 --> 02:02:38,720
Speaker 1: because you're about to make me make a donation. Here, brother,

2254
02:02:39,040 --> 02:02:41,440
Speaker 1: I'm popping up in my chail the terence we at

2255
02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:46,000
Speaker 1: d C. Turkey, don't do turkey, give it away now, Okay,

2256
02:02:46,320 --> 02:02:48,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna go back. We're gonna go back. But I'm

2257
02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:55,280
Speaker 1: talking about rave five four three to one rat yes, yes, yes,

2258
02:02:55,480 --> 02:02:58,760
Speaker 1: yes and so and so because I because I tell

2259
02:02:58,800 --> 02:03:01,400
Speaker 1: everybody about it again slow it down is in the

2260
02:03:01,520 --> 02:03:04,560
Speaker 1: Detroit area. Okay, it's called the All Star Give Back

2261
02:03:04,600 --> 02:03:07,240
Speaker 1: Turkey Drive. My board Derrick Coleman been doing it for

2262
02:03:07,320 --> 02:03:10,120
Speaker 1: twenty two years. I swear to you, d C. He's

2263
02:03:10,160 --> 02:03:12,960
Speaker 1: six nine and a half, cooler young brother I ever

2264
02:03:13,080 --> 02:03:15,720
Speaker 1: met in my life. That's why I met him. That's

2265
02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:18,760
Speaker 1: why I met Terence right there, you know. And they

2266
02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:23,160
Speaker 1: were always about the calls. They were always about being entrepreneurs.

2267
02:03:23,240 --> 02:03:24,960
Speaker 1: They were all about the community because I want to

2268
02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:28,480
Speaker 1: tell people, you can't have a customer there. They usually

2269
02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:31,480
Speaker 1: having customers, the future customers, future lard, the future, branding,

2270
02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:34,800
Speaker 1: future taxpayers. That's what it helps. That's what happens. You

2271
02:03:34,920 --> 02:03:37,360
Speaker 1: help people in the community. And that's what I don't

2272
02:03:37,400 --> 02:03:40,720
Speaker 1: understand racism. It's racism. Just stop then this country being

2273
02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:43,440
Speaker 1: better because guess what the community of these better. If

2274
02:03:43,480 --> 02:03:45,480
Speaker 1: the community is better than mean, we have more better

2275
02:03:45,560 --> 02:03:48,960
Speaker 1: qualified workers. I mean, we have better qualified taxpayers, we

2276
02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:53,160
Speaker 1: have better qualified cities. And that's where racism stops. And

2277
02:03:53,280 --> 02:03:55,560
Speaker 1: that's what you're battling on, what you're changing. And so

2278
02:03:55,880 --> 02:03:59,360
Speaker 1: they All Star Turkey Drive, get Back Turkey Drive starts win.

2279
02:04:00,440 --> 02:04:04,120
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's always it's always that Tuesday before Thanksgiving

2280
02:04:04,160 --> 02:04:08,120
Speaker 1: and give back because every person is all start from

2281
02:04:08,320 --> 02:04:10,480
Speaker 1: down the to the CEO. I'm talking up man. You

2282
02:04:10,600 --> 02:04:13,320
Speaker 1: got we got whites, we got black, We've got me Mexicans,

2283
02:04:13,320 --> 02:04:16,880
Speaker 1: We've got Asians, young and old. In line. We're not

2284
02:04:17,000 --> 02:04:20,280
Speaker 1: here to judge anybody. We're here to serve. And that's

2285
02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:23,040
Speaker 1: the key. You serving people and saying, listen to mars

2286
02:04:23,080 --> 02:04:25,440
Speaker 1: gonna be a better day. You can make it, giving

2287
02:04:25,480 --> 02:04:27,959
Speaker 1: them some hope, letting them know they can conquer adversity.

2288
02:04:28,160 --> 02:04:31,320
Speaker 1: Refused to be average. Average is a bad word. Average

2289
02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:33,760
Speaker 1: means you the top of the bottom. Mediaki is a

2290
02:04:33,880 --> 02:04:37,839
Speaker 1: bad word. Let's be great, Let's be phenomenal. I believe

2291
02:04:37,880 --> 02:04:41,080
Speaker 1: in you. Those people leave us feeling better about themselves.

2292
02:04:41,280 --> 02:04:43,640
Speaker 1: I hate when people go places and they give it away,

2293
02:04:43,680 --> 02:04:46,120
Speaker 1: something free. They ask you a litany of questions and

2294
02:04:46,160 --> 02:04:48,080
Speaker 1: I don't know where you're from. Man, probably has no

2295
02:04:48,240 --> 02:04:51,040
Speaker 1: diffic I don't care where you work at, I don't

2296
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:53,920
Speaker 1: care where you where you live that man, listen. We

2297
02:04:54,160 --> 02:04:57,800
Speaker 1: have enough resources in this country to feed the poor.

2298
02:04:58,120 --> 02:05:02,160
Speaker 1: We just can't satisfy the rich. Yes, now, now let's

2299
02:05:02,200 --> 02:05:05,600
Speaker 1: talk about this. First of all, I'm gonna make a

2300
02:05:05,680 --> 02:05:10,440
Speaker 1: thousand dollar donation to the All Star Get Back Turkey Drive,

2301
02:05:10,520 --> 02:05:12,280
Speaker 1: gonna make it. That's that's a lot of turkeys right there.

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02:05:12,440 --> 02:05:14,600
Speaker 1: That's a lot of turkey. I've done the Turkey Drive.

2303
02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:18,680
Speaker 1: I know what the thousand dollars do for you. So

2304
02:05:19,120 --> 02:05:22,839
Speaker 1: so when we hang up, I'm giving my email address

2305
02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:24,680
Speaker 1: so you can send me the W nine and I'm

2306
02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:27,720
Speaker 1: gonna procept that check, get it to you the fine time.

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02:05:27,840 --> 02:05:29,200
Speaker 1: You know, won't we look what we call? You? Know

2308
02:05:29,200 --> 02:05:31,040
Speaker 1: what I mean? Man, you don't call roushan with that money.

2309
02:05:31,200 --> 02:05:33,000
Speaker 1: But with that money, that brother is just front of

2310
02:05:33,040 --> 02:05:36,400
Speaker 1: me on on the radio shows, podcast play me, let

2311
02:05:36,440 --> 02:05:39,160
Speaker 1: me at d C. I let me get what you're

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Speaker 1: gonna do to me. I ain't gonna land in Detroit

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Speaker 1: be looking over my shoulder, and so and so, because

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Speaker 1: these campaigns and your passion, the energy to Back to

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02:05:48,760 --> 02:05:52,120
Speaker 1: School Drive, the hygiene campaign, they all start, Get Back

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02:05:52,160 --> 02:05:54,960
Speaker 1: Turkey Drive just to change lives. It all happens in

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02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:57,160
Speaker 1: the city of Detroit and its and it's not a

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Speaker 1: campaign tied the cover color. It's a campaign ain't tied

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Speaker 1: to people who need help. And like you said, everybody

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Speaker 1: is an All Star and That's why that title right there,

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Speaker 1: all stars, not needing people. These are all stars. These

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Speaker 1: people are like I said earlier, these are people who work,

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Speaker 1: these people who have families, These are taxpaying people. These

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Speaker 1: are the people who are underserved when it came to

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Speaker 1: the ponent the pandemic, hitting the pandemic with just COVID

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Speaker 1: eighteen and the Cares Act didn't come through. Now this

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Speaker 1: whole struggle, they really need us. That's why I'm making

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Speaker 1: this thousand dollar donation to you because right now, you

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02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:31,360
Speaker 1: know they suspending evictions to the thirty first. You know

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Speaker 1: the thread of dollar check that they were passing out

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02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:35,880
Speaker 1: that ended weeks ago and so and now they see

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Speaker 1: sitting around with debating if they're gonna renew another CARES

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Speaker 1: that campaign. So I'm I'm gonna help as much as

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Speaker 1: I can, and you do it on a daily Brasis.

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Speaker 1: This is your mission in terms I said, I'm proud

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Speaker 1: of you, brother, and again I will be bringing you

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02:06:50,160 --> 02:06:52,480
Speaker 1: back on the show. And no rumble, okay, And that

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Speaker 1: probably probably that that week before the twos that you

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Speaker 1: give away we're gonna we're gonna come back on the air,

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02:06:58,800 --> 02:07:00,760
Speaker 1: and we're gonna come back on the air man, and

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Speaker 1: I promise you, brother, but I say it is the

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02:07:03,720 --> 02:07:06,360
Speaker 1: truth because I just love your tone and uh and

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02:07:06,440 --> 02:07:09,680
Speaker 1: I just love how you've grown man as a spokesperson. Uh,

2344
02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:13,720
Speaker 1: your your articulation is like on, it's fired. They they

2345
02:07:14,040 --> 02:07:16,320
Speaker 1: ain't on. It was always on, but now it's fired.

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02:07:16,400 --> 02:07:18,720
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And because you got a legacy,

2347
02:07:19,080 --> 02:07:21,360
Speaker 1: see if you can you see back then you're still

2348
02:07:21,480 --> 02:07:25,040
Speaker 1: like putting everything together, which was really great. But now man,

2349
02:07:25,080 --> 02:07:27,400
Speaker 1: you've got a history walking up to people. People know

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02:07:27,600 --> 02:07:30,480
Speaker 1: your your resume. I always tell people when you're hype

2351
02:07:30,840 --> 02:07:33,280
Speaker 1: and the things you you've written down meet each other.

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02:07:33,640 --> 02:07:36,800
Speaker 1: Then guess what You're now living the life that you're

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02:07:36,840 --> 02:07:38,600
Speaker 1: supposed to live. And that's what you're doing right now

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02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:41,560
Speaker 1: on terrans with Man, thank you so much for something.

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02:07:42,280 --> 02:07:44,880
Speaker 1: It's uh, nothing but love. Man. When I when I

2356
02:07:44,920 --> 02:07:47,400
Speaker 1: when I see the things you're doing. Man, I say,

2357
02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:50,360
Speaker 1: every time I'm watching a rerun on BAT or something,

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02:07:50,440 --> 02:07:52,280
Speaker 1: and then it comes from the screen manager skills my

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02:07:52,400 --> 02:07:56,360
Speaker 1: heart with joy because you never you never like you

2360
02:07:56,440 --> 02:07:58,440
Speaker 1: know it was too big or never not have enough

2361
02:07:58,480 --> 02:08:01,520
Speaker 1: time to give a word. Man, talking to my good friend,

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02:08:01,600 --> 02:08:04,400
Speaker 1: my mom, my middle school Buddy Monty. You know, so

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02:08:04,520 --> 02:08:07,480
Speaker 1: when Kahan was popping off in and just that whole

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02:08:07,600 --> 02:08:11,280
Speaker 1: mentorship that you gave him. Man. Uh, it's just we

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02:08:11,480 --> 02:08:14,480
Speaker 1: need older brothers who are not afraid to pour into

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Speaker 1: us because you know, that's how that's how legacy start,

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02:08:18,320 --> 02:08:21,520
Speaker 1: that's how generational wealth start, that's how we keep this

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02:08:21,680 --> 02:08:24,760
Speaker 1: chain going. When we have a person of wisdom to

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Speaker 1: give it to a young person, I'll give it to

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Speaker 1: somebody else. You gotta rope, I got a ladder. Let's go, man,

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Speaker 1: Let's help people. Uh. And so man, I'm just uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm just honored man to be sitting here man talking

2373
02:08:35,200 --> 02:08:37,760
Speaker 1: to you, brother, because I know you know a lot

2374
02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:39,480
Speaker 1: of people, a lot of people could be on this show,

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02:08:39,760 --> 02:08:42,360
Speaker 1: and I'm just a small vessel and honor and humble

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Speaker 1: to be here. Brother, My brother, you know you're always

2377
02:08:45,160 --> 02:08:47,800
Speaker 1: up every time you everything you're up for campaign. You

2378
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Speaker 1: know I'll be voting. I'll be voting, like you see

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Speaker 1: ancoln don't everybody, brothers, shot, don't gonna vote for t W.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my thing. And by the way, and

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Speaker 1: sending me one of these I saw he was on LinkedIn.

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Speaker 1: He had we had his coat and I saw a

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Speaker 1: coach and I text us to tell you I need

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Speaker 1: that blue coat right there. So this week next week

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Speaker 1: I'm getting the coat from Talan because I've been I've

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Speaker 1: been mentoring here. Man. He got back into my life

2387
02:09:18,240 --> 02:09:20,680
Speaker 1: in February. Man, February, I flew down to flew to

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas, and I on me. He said, Man, you

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Speaker 1: really came. But I said, but you asked me to come. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And I just I think the things I do, Man,

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Speaker 1: I just do him. Man, And you know he asked

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Speaker 1: me to come. You know, wasn't no airline. How much

2393
02:09:34,520 --> 02:09:36,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna cause I showed us but all day with

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02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:39,520
Speaker 1: gave us some advice and I just left. He said, Wow,

2395
02:09:40,600 --> 02:09:44,400
Speaker 1: that's yeah, you asked that advice that you have, man,

2396
02:09:44,520 --> 02:09:48,240
Speaker 1: because you have been you know, so many circles. You've

2397
02:09:48,280 --> 02:09:51,879
Speaker 1: seen so much, you know, and so now those mistakes

2398
02:09:52,000 --> 02:09:54,120
Speaker 1: we don't have to make because okay, with Seawan can

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Speaker 1: give us a point on hey, man, go this way

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Speaker 1: now you I'll tell you where to go. You're a

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02:09:58,320 --> 02:10:00,800
Speaker 1: show choice. But you have that us in that knowledge

2402
02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:03,480
Speaker 1: that you're passing the young brothers, and so we're gonna

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Speaker 1: receive it, uh and try to multiply to somebody else's life. Man,

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, monkey God, Man, tell you when you hang

2405
02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:17,040
Speaker 1: up this car, say month Rishaw said you are blue

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02:10:17,160 --> 02:10:19,720
Speaker 1: coach to it. He goes say, yep, yep, yeah, yeah yeah.

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02:10:20,520 --> 02:10:22,000
Speaker 1: He told me I'm gonna give it to you the cars.

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Speaker 1: That's whatever. Brother. But what I don't do, I don't

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Speaker 1: take free. I don't take free. I think I put

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Speaker 1: that drop that check in the mails. It's coming your way.

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Speaker 1: But that's the beauty of you know why I try

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Speaker 1: to live my life, Terrence. And like I said, man,

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Speaker 1: you know, don't hang up the phone about the wrap

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Speaker 1: ups the interview. Don't hang up because I want to

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02:10:38,400 --> 02:10:40,840
Speaker 1: get you. Give my email address because I'm gonna send

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Speaker 1: you a thousand dollars for the All Star give back

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Speaker 1: Turkey Drive, and we're gonna bring you on and interview

2418
02:10:46,720 --> 02:10:48,800
Speaker 1: you the week before that, so you're gonna get update

2419
02:10:48,880 --> 02:10:50,560
Speaker 1: us on everything so we can make sure and just

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02:10:50,680 --> 02:10:53,080
Speaker 1: do a recap of what you have planning. And and

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Speaker 1: I'm in your life now, brother, Okay, I appreciate it. Well,

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02:10:56,720 --> 02:10:58,120
Speaker 1: I always been in your life, but I'm really in

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Speaker 1: your life. I don't know if that's good at back

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Speaker 1: now you hear. That means that this thing about about

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Speaker 1: the elevation, that means elevation from my from my form

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Speaker 1: basketball player to a guy who came dunk elevation is

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Speaker 1: a good conversation because that's something I couldn't not do.

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Speaker 1: Your your elevator in terms of your knowledge, man, your

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02:11:22,280 --> 02:11:27,440
Speaker 1: wisdom resources. Man. Uh, I just know that it's now

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Speaker 1: a perfect kind to be on that flight with you. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm about to do us. I got a special coming

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Speaker 1: on on Kelly Clarkson's show. Brother. I told her she's

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Speaker 1: gonna highlight some of the things we've done in the community.

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Speaker 1: That's my girl, Fair, that's my girl, the whole Alex

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Speaker 1: Doodle executive producer, that's my that's my best friend. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this thing circle At a last

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Speaker 1: last November, I surprised the whole Kelly Clarkson's staff, including

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Speaker 1: Kelly Clarkson, with a homemade breakfast spread. You know, just

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Speaker 1: she was stunned. She was she couldn't believe. You know,

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Speaker 1: So that whole crew man know me, that whole crew

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Speaker 1: up there. So so what you're doing, man, whoever the

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Speaker 1: producer is, just let him know you rush and board.

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02:12:09,760 --> 02:12:12,520
Speaker 1: They already take care of you. Man. But again these

2444
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Speaker 1: are the things how everything comes back and it connects

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Speaker 1: because but somehow I do know a lot of people

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Speaker 1: Terce and a lot of people do alright there. Money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversations interviews please go to money Making Conversation dot com.

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Speaker 1: I wishean McDonald. I'm your host.