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Tonight, the Patriots lose at home to the 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:21.959 Bills in a very unceremonious fashion. We're here, We're here 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:24.680 for the past game show. It's a tremendous open by you. Yeah, 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:28.400 oh okay, all right on the state. Uh, it's it's Hardy, 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:31.360 it's Mike Diso and it's Paul Perillo here taking your 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:33.640 calls eight five five, Pats five hundred. We've already got 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:35.560 them loaded up. Your own be taking your emails to 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.360 web radio at Patriots dot com. But your initial thoughts, duce, 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:40.920 go ahead, lead us off. Yeah, you know, I thought 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.160 the defense a little ugly in the start, but I 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:45.399 thought they you know, opened the door and held the 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.319 door open for a little bit there the second quarter, 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.560 third quarter, gave the offense, you know, at least an 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:53.080 opportunity to maybe get a score, to change the complexion 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.120 of the game, maybe put a little pressure on the Bills. 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:57.800 They weren't able to do that. Um, you know, I 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.480 just I think that this game, it's it's kind of 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.320 a perfect example of what the season has been you know, 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:05.360 I think the defense is is Okay. I don't think 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.080 that they're terrible. I think that they're solid. I don't 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:08.519 think they're one of the best defenses in the league, 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:10.400 but I think that they are a good defense. I 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:14.359 just think the offense is I don't know the word 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.520 to choose right now. It's a non starter this season, 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.560 and it has been since the start. You got out 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.519 there tonight, you had absolutely nothing. You know, you have 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.040 one big play from Marcus Jones and some garbage time 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.840 yards about as bad as it's been all season long 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.160 for the offense, and you know, this is probably going 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:32.000 to be what we're going to be talking about here 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:33.880 for the next six months. Okay, So I'm not going 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:35.480 to get into a lot of this right now, but 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.760 you know, I I question even your willingness to give 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:43.239 the defense much credit tonight. I don't think they were horrific, 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.280 but there were some key moments in that game where 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:53.200 things could have at least stayed available to you in 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:56.919 terms of staying in this game and possibly making it close, 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:00.120 and the defense that they let you down too, not 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.520 to the extent the offense did. Yeah, I think, yeah, 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:04.840 I think you guys are both right. Yeah, absolutely, I 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.880 totally agree with you guys. Yeah, I mean they gave them. 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.440 I don't think I was talking to Mike as we 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.720 were walking down. I don't think the defense played as 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:17.240 well as only allowing twenty four points will indicate. But 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.880 the bottom line is they only allowed twenty four points. 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:23.840 And I think, Mike, you had hang on something. What 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.600 was your what was your your kind of double entoudra 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:31.359 dirty key to the game, hold on and finish well. 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:34.120 They did the hold on part. Yeah, and it wasn't 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:37.160 always pretty, But you're right. I don't think the d 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.160 and the hardy You're right too. I don't think the 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:42.280 defense was great, but they did enough to give them 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.520 a sniff of a chance. In the offense was just 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.720 non existent. Part of those part of the Bills only 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.520 scoring twenty four points comes in the fact that they 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:52.560 really let it fly a couple of times. There was 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:54.520 I think it was the last possession in the first 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.040 half where they was it was the last position the 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:58.760 Bills had in the first half where they just kind 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:00.880 of let a couple fly that could have been both picks. 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.120 Like at that point they kind of knew that they 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.400 had a game in a hand. I think that they 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.640 I think that they they were looking for daggers and 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.000 they thought even if it gets bl yeah, well and 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.680 they got a dagger and got a call back, you know, 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:17.880 on the holding call on Tommy Sweeney. Um. But you know, 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:21.520 like you guys are saying, yeah, I'm just looking at 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.320 the stats. Now. You know nine for fifteen Buffalo was 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:26.159 on third down. And you know what that allows you 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:27.640 to do. It allows you to hold the ball for 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:29.599 thirty eight oh eight. I thought it was gonna be 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:31.880 so not only the Patriots offense couldn't do anything, it 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:33.960 never had the ball. I thought it was gonna be 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:35.760 worse than that. That's the first thing I looked at too. 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.920 It seemed like the Bills weren't able to convert on 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:42.719 all but three third downs tonight. I can't I can't 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:44.560 believe there was six third downs. It was like a 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:46.880 third and twenty that they had a holding call. And 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:48.960 then I mean it was it was ones day. That's 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.240 why I don't think the defense necessarily it was when 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.839 you know, you get a very questionable offensive pass inference 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:56.799 on digs in the first drive leads to a failed 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.280 third can I just like, we don't have to talk 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.039 about the defense being good, like I didn't mean to 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:02.440 make that point. I feel like this is going off 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:04.200 the rails of like we're gonna get an argument about 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:05.800 the defense, Like no, I know, I don't want to 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.120 talk totally the opposite we talked, you know what, I 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.440 feel like we make it the way now of a sudden, 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.760 it's like, oh, everyone thinks the defense played great. I'm 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:15.200 not trying to say that at all. And I don't 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:16.640 think we'll get I don't think we'll get a ton 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.080 of calls about that. But the bottom line is they 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.640 only allowed twenty four points and they weren't the reason 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.159 you lost. No, the bottom line, the reason you lost 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.800 is often the bottom line is we have an hour 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.520 and a half two hours to fill and if I 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.800 want to create an argument with Dues and somehow invent 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.359 the fact that he's you know, supporting the defense, I 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:40.280 will do that as it means to fill the party. Party. 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.080 There's your peak behind the curt. We've known each other 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.039 for a good ten years now, going you know, when 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:48.919 we met at NBC Sports Boston doing our chin wags 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:52.440 on the late night show. Right, when have I ever 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:57.200 been anti argument? But but you're right now I don't 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.960 want to paint dues in that picture I used to. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:01.960 We're gonna be time arguing about stuff that like that. 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.000 I mean, let's get in on the offense and just 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.520 crush them, because that's what deserves to happen. Right now, 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.400 I want to get it started here, Okay, out, Paul, 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.000 you're just any any more initial thoughts before we come 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:13.760 with you? Guys, I think you both made great points 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:15.880 to open. All right, let's let's get a roll in here. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:20.640 Now it's time for the good, pretty good, prithee, prithee, 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:29.120 pretty good, the bad, and the injured. Ah ah, you 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.000 are right, guy, Good, the bad, the injured. Broad to 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.719 you about the good players, the bad players, any injured players. 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.920 This is going to be a mercifully short segment tonight 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.719 because to fight each other over these guns, well, I mean, 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.440 there'll be a handful of goods. There'll be so many 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:44.960 bads I don't even know that we have to like 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.000 mention them and then you know, we'll kind of get 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:48.400 on with the rest of the show. So Paul, you 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:49.760 want to lead us off. There's a gain. We got 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.840 a couple of good takes. That one though, just kidd um, Okay, 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.200 don't leave you. I'll leave you the one I'll go. 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:00.440 Here's my good tonight, josh Ucha was as noticed and 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.920 impactful in a game as I've seen him. Um. Yes, 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:07.640 he was taking advantage of a backup, but that like 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:11.760 little DeMarcus ware under move where he sort of ducks 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.560 underneath and gets the edge causes a strip sack. At 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.840 the end of the first half, Patriots were on life support. 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:19.680 It's seventeen seven. The Bills are in your territory. They're 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.600 at least getting a field goal there. And not only 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:24.680 he prevents them from getting a field goal with the 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.200 strip sack, but he set up an opportunity for the 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:30.240 Patriots to get within a touchdown with a field goal 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.760 there aren't. Unfortunately it didn't come to fruition. But josh 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:35.400 u j I thought was active at other points in 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.360 the game too. I thought he was given Uh was 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.720 it Daniel Quessenberry. It's one of the Questenberries. Yeah, it's 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:45.560 not Paul Questenberry, David, it's not not Dan Quissinberry either. Um, 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:47.880 but I thought he was good tonight. So I had 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.640 him on the good list. Okay, so he was active, 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.960 Go ahead, you take him, you take him come, no, no, 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.680 you take take take the guy and talk him up 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.640 because he deserves it. No, Marcus Jones, Um, you know, 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.400 it's just that was a great play and that's it. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.160 But I mean, I think I tell you what it was. 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.480 It was dynamic. It was it was it was the 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.760 one dynamic playing offense that the Patriots gave you ten 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.760 and it's been such a dearth of those this year. 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.680 You just I mean, they haven't happened. And you know, 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:16.960 to to pull away here as you're seeing Poyer. I mean, 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:18.000 I didn't know if he was going to get the 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.640 corner on him. But um, you know, of all the 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:22.480 things that have you know, not really happened this year, 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:24.640 failed to develop this year, Marcus Jones is one that 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:26.560 that continues to come on. He you know, got some 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:29.480 early time on defense. Didn't really seem like he stayed 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:31.400 out there on defense, which I thought was maybe a 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.840 little bit strange to you know, have him out there initially, 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:35.640 and then it seemed like Jack Jones picked up more 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.240 of the snaps as it went. But you know, the 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:41.320 guy's making plays in all three phases. Now, Um, maybe 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.040 that's a little overstated on defense, but um, you know, 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:48.040 really you talk about not many. That's funny. He's made 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.079 plays on offense, he's made play on special teams. He's 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:53.280 a cornerback, hasn't got much of a chance yet. Well, 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:55.800 and that's kind of what's troubling to me, Dues, is 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:59.079 it's not that this guy they've identified, this diamond and 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.679 the rough, this planet player who has to play in 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.560 all three phases. They just put him in on offense 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:08.040 because they don't have anything else now. And so he 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.800 did play some offense in college. Yeah, yeah, that's it's 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.040 not completely foreign to him. But I'm what if they 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.120 had a good offense, he wouldn't be playing offense. That's 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.440 what I'm saying. It's not that he's so good. We 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.439 got to find out a way, No, we just gotta 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.600 find something. But isn't it just crazy that that's like 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:23.520 the only play that he's even been in and like 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.760 he actually makes a play and meanwhile, we just it's 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:27.160 like trying to get water out of a rock with 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:28.920 a lot of these other guys. It was just fun 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.600 to watch, and he did a leading receiver tonight two 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.160 for fifty one in a touchdown. I know, well yeah, 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.800 I mean, well go ahead out home. Well, the my 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.679 one good I got one, laughed, I got one last. 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.600 Romandre Stevenson. Yeah that's I mean, that's all I got. 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.400 I mean ten carries for which for fifty four yards. 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.920 He had the longest sixteen, But he did. He was 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:52.640 he was technically your leading receiver with uh six receptions 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:56.000 for a total of a total of twenty four yards. 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.040 And they're showing his fumble here like, you know, like 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:01.280 and I'm not even putting him on there because I didn't. Yeah, 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:03.400 I didn't have him on like I just think without 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:06.160 him grinding out yards again, like, you would have had 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:08.680 even less than what you got. I mean, you got 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.520 basically just Marcus Jones and Remandre as it was. I 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:12.800 you know, I don't even know where they would have 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:18.560 been with Remandre not even a superstar outstanding game. I mean, yeah, 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:20.920 I didn't have him on the good list. And not 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.760 looking to get again to you a point, I'm not 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:25.400 looking to get into an argument to what I'm saying 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.120 he was bad because he wasn't bad. I just think 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.760 that early in the game when they're trying to play 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.880 conventional offense, he wasn't his fault. I'm not blaming him, 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.880 but he was he was completely shut down, and you 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:39.120 know you should the fumble could have been a huge play. 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:43.160 He was very fortunate there. Um. The sixteen yard run 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:47.400 came on third and eighteen, like that's even like, hey, 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.360 great neat. You know, he gave us five extra yards 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:55.680 to punt. Um. You know, again, it's not his fault. 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.800 He's working behind the patchwork offensive line. He didn't have 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.319 any room to run. Little yards he got tonight. He 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:02.640 got on his own, So I'm not telling you he 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:06.400 was bad, but you know, six catches for twenty four yards. 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:10.160 He didn't really make anybody miss like he normally does. Tough, 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.120 just a tough, tough night for offense. Yep Um, is 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:15.199 there anything else you want to put on the good 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.679 list at all? Don't feel like you have to. But 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.200 you know before, the only other thing I wrote down 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.840 was an individual play where it's seventeen seven. You you know, 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.199 you had to score his third quarter going and you 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.719 punt on fourth down and you down it at the 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.640 six yard line. It's good execution by your punt unit, 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.400 you know, good punt by Polardi, and I think it 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.959 was Schooler that got down there and got it. Unfortunately, 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.240 the game ended about eight minutes later, nine minutes later 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.599 when the Bills went ninety four yards. But that was 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.560 a good play. I'll tell you what. By the punt unit, 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.920 there were some There were some nice puns tonight. Yeah, 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:56.079 that were that were I like the party. It's fine, okay, Um, 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.600 we could do bads all night, but we won't. Let's 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.120 just single out a few things that really really stick 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.760 out that deserve special mention. Paul, is there is there 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:06.680 one you want to lead us all? I just thought 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:10.240 in a game that you had to be really effective offensively. 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.400 You start off and I thought you were really sloppy 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.520 with your ball security. Yes, third down and less third 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.040 down in less than a yard. It looked like Mac 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.480 Jones and Remandri Stevenson weren't on the same page. That 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:22.959 the mesh point wasn't right. They looked like they were 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:25.640 too far away. They fumble um and they were fortunate 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:27.360 to get it back. I would love to know what 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:29.720 happened on that, you know, and then the first drive 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:34.440 and you're thinking, is that is that? Mac? Is is it? 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.959 Remandre is like? What happened? What happened? I don't know 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.280 whose fault it was, but I'm just sucking ball security 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.920 in general. And then the play before Marcus Jones's touchdown 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:48.079 was the Stevenson swing pass that he fumbles. Yes, and Agalore. 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.040 I mean that ends up being a huge play because 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:52.280 I think they got more yards on the fumbled than 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.680 they did on the actual play. It's close, So you 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:57.600 know that that was a big play. I just thought, 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.960 And in a game where you needed to be special 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:01.800 at offensive, will you come out and fumble the ball 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.839 twice in the first quarter? Right? Right? Bad? Right? I 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.319 mean it was on my bad list. It's them, it's them. 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.040 This year. I was trying to say, is it cold? 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:11.440 Is it is it something that's just that's just what 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.120 it is, whether it was warm. I mean, this is 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.520 sloppy right out of the gate. Big game, Hey, huge game. 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.920 Gotta win divisional rivals. They kicked your ass last year. 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.640 You got fumble the snap on the first If you 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.080 can't do a lot on offense, if you if you 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:30.120 are limited in what you can actually um do and 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:34.880 you're shrinking the playbook or you're just gonna have a 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.360 limited number of things that you can do. Whatever you do, 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.760 you have to do clean. And that is the furthest 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:41.760 thing from clean. Get a good look, you can see 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.920 how far apart they were, Like Stevenson was too wide. 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.120 I think, well, Mac didn't open up enough, Like what 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.920 what day OTAs? Do you think that is handoff? Right? 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.840 And that's the stuff when just work. Yeah, it just 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:56.880 didn't look like Mac was it. If I'm watching this 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.880 play without knowing anything, I'm saying Mac isn't in the right. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.760 But I think you're right at it. Footwork seemed all 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:04.600 off on that play. But it doesn't seem like Stevenson 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.360 is really looking for the ball, does it? Like I mean, 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.160 it seems like he's kind of going a block, like 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:10.520 I don't know. It could have been a run pass 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:14.280 option and I guess he's Well, I'll tell you what, Mike, 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.440 Now that you're looking at him, you're saying Stevenson wasn't 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.319 really looking for I wonder if this is supposed to 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.400 be a play action fast right, it looks half hearted. 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.560 I don't know. I think it was supposed to be 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.760 a handoff. But we'll never know. But you know, again, 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:29.760 it's just do if somebody else, maybe we will know. 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.640 Maybe they'll find out in the in the locker room. Yeah, well, 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.680 and somebody will probably ask Bill and I'm sure Bill 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.040 Will will tell us exactly what I'm supposed to happen 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.880 on that plot to watch the film. Yeah, um yeah, 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.600 what do you guys got pretty quick? I'm just gonna 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.440 throw Jude On on there. I mean, it's just you know, look, 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:47.920 this is what's happening again here we are. I hate 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:49.720 to one QB hit. I mean, and I'm sure he's 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:51.840 getting plenty of attention, and we'll break the film down 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.640 and all that stuff, but it's just not enough. You know, 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:56.960 you're not a bar more in there. The pass rush 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.200 is going quiet again. I mean, I hate to single 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.960 out Jude On because I think, you know, you probably 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.960 might put more blame on, say Dietrich Wise on the 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:07.080 other side, or you know, somebody who wasn't picking up 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:08.960 the slack that we're getting the one on one matchups. 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:13.160 But between Wyse Daniel Laquale, um, you know, ch did 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.560 pick up a couple of sacks, but just Joote on 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.520 the pass rush, they couldn't get to Josh Allen. They 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.320 just cannot get there, no matter who's playing left tackle. 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:23.560 It's the same thing we talked about. We got a 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.640 semicircle around Josh Allen and we're pushing our guy, watching him. 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.080 He's going through his reads and then he finds somebody open. 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.560 And I mean, it happened again a handful of times. Tonight, 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:35.280 boss man Fred Kirsch joining us with some very aggressive 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:40.280 eyewear I had. I had to come into sguise yeah 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.280 with me, because you were looking for something special tonight. 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:45.720 Yeah you got it, Yeah you did. Are the crickets 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.880 coming in later, buddy or is it just you buddy? 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:52.480 The crickets? Are they going to be joining you? Also? Oh? Buddy, Holly, 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:56.360 I get that. I didn't get that reference. I did. 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.200 I don't listen that's from your era, I know, but 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.920 I don't listen to the Hardy Music Show. That's from 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:06.200 about the Hardy Music Show. There's no angst there. Oh um, hey, 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:09.320 you caught us right in the middle of the bad list. 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.640 I go, and I'm just listening. You know, what do 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:16.240 you got, Hardy? I mean, just defensively, I'm gonna say, 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:18.720 you know, you can say it's chewed on, you can 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:24.440 say it's um. Whatever plan they had didn't work, whether 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:28.080 they were treating Alan as a passer first and not 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.720 looking to contain whatever plan they had, it was evident 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.040 early on that it wasn't working. You looked at that 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:35.720 time of possession at the end of the game, and 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.320 when I first took note of it, it was at 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.600 the end of the fourth quarter when I believe the 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:44.320 time was thirty one forty three versus thirteen forty six. 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:46.640 I said, it was way out of whack until that 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.280 last drive to nowhere, way out of whack to the 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:53.400 point where defensively you needed to dial up something different 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:55.720 much earlier on in this game. Now I don't know 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.360 what it was, but to the point you made kind 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.560 of from the beginning, Paul. The Bills scored twenty four points. 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:03.720 What they did mostly was hold on to the football 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.800 and stay on the field. So you know, we make 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:09.600 a lot of noise about the offense and you know 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:12.120 what things that they could be and should be doing differently. 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.119 Going all the way back to camp, tonight was a 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.520 night for the defense. Where you've got a defensive minded 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.720 head coach. You've got some defensive minds who might be 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:23.040 doing other things on this team right now coaching wise, 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:25.800 but they're still supposed to be defensive guys. And I'm 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.840 thinking to myself, that's all you could come up with, 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.879 was a way to allow the other team to be 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.520 out on the field almost by a factor of three 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.280 times more than you through three quarters of this game. 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:41.560 It was a bad, bad, bad job by them all around. 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.760 That was I don't I don't have a more sinct 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:49.280 or eloquent way of putting it. But defensively, a lack 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:51.920 of effort like that, or a lack of planning like that, 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.359 and a night well, let's face it, Josh Allen, he 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.880 was an all world tonight. He made some he made 0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:01.359 some pretty neat plays if you're just a um, you know, 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.919 kind of an empirical football fan. But he wasn't unbeatable 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:07.680 too that You didn't get it. You didn't get the 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:11.159 A game from the Bill's offense. No, um yeah, I 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.520 mean they had their way with you up. The problem 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.160 is they didn't need anywhere close to their A game 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:21.800 because Patriots offense gave them completely right. I mean, you 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.760 got up seven three and then they quickly came made 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:27.399 it ten seven. From that point on, they would just 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:29.959 toying with the mouse. It was the cat toying with 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.160 the mouse. I agree with you, but go ahead, Paul. 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.400 Well the other thing, and I talked about the ball 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.200 security early on was my first bad I would also, 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.240 you know, take that and go to the overall discipline 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.879 that we've been talking a lot about lately, penalties, And 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:45.800 they weren't a ton of penalties in this game, but 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:49.200 they had five in the first seventeen minutes of the game. 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:55.080 They had five penalties holding calls, uh passing, aference calls, 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.480 the intentional grounding. They had two penalties on one play 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:02.080 just there very fortunate to get off the goal line 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:05.080 without a safety on that play. Um it looked like 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.280 that was supposed to be something that was was a 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:10.879 quick hitting pass play. The tackles looked like they were cutting, 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:13.919 and then Mac is doing everything you can to get 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.680 rid of the ball just outside you know, the shade 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.280 of his goal line. So I just thought five penalties 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.480 by the thirteen minute mark of the second quarter and 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:23.840 capped off by the way on that drive with a 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.280 delayed game on the punt, and I know that you're 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:28.280 probably looking to see if you can draw them off side, 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:31.480 but you can't. When you're like your fifteen yard line, 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.080 you can't afford five yards there, and when you know 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:37.720 your kicker right isn't doesn't have the kind of leg 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:40.760 you know your punter. Every yard counts, yes, you know, 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:44.200 six penalties, four declined as well, so ten total calls. 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:46.280 I mean some of them you know came on just once. 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:48.359 I mean that's as close to as safety as you 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.199 can get. Yeah, and that's what the second possession of 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:54.360 the game. Yeah, I think it was the third, but yeah, 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:57.040 I mean third Yeah, yeah, third one? What else he 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:01.119 got dues? Uh? Where else? Go? Hold on? I got 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:03.040 I got a quick catchump in for me. It was 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:05.680 kind of a clock management thing after the turnover toward 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:08.320 the end of the first half. A huge, huge one 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:13.040 on my list. Absolutely, they play offensively, and you know 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:15.560 I already mentioned the defense, but offensively, they play like 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:17.560 they don't know now what now, what do we do? 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:21.199 We get this gift of a turnover, you know, you 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:23.159 make a play, it's not a gift, it's not a 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:25.360 total A huge play by Ucha. It was a great 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:27.560 play by Ucha. Now what are you going to do 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:30.680 with it? You're gonna waste time. You're you're going to 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:34.160 not play with any kind of urgency. You are going 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:37.200 to get yourself into position where you're close to field 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:39.760 goal range, and then you're going to burn seven seconds 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.280 off a clock when you're down to I think thirty 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:45.480 seconds anyway, and then call the time out. I'm watching it, 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:49.199 I'm thinking, I don't always know there's you know, there 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.120 are people who seem to have like this inherent sense 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:53.720 of when to call the time out when not to. 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:56.160 I'm saying that time out, time out? What are you doing? 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:58.320 What are you doing? I watched seven seconds click off, 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:00.679 and then they call the time out because it was 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:02.600 a third and one, and it was kind of like 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:05.800 everyone realized all at once, Oh, we really need this here, 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.280 or hold on, let's call the time they're on how 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:10.600 to get it? Well what happened? Because I don't know, 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.320 but this was huge, Like we were all talking about 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:16.720 it at the time live. But they ran the ball 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:20.360 in second and one, yep, and then they thought they 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:22.880 got the first down. They you know, and when they 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:26.160 you know, they're expecting on second in less than a yard, 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:28.000 they're gonna run it. They're not gonna be expecting us 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:29.800 to run it. We're gonna get a yard, we're gonna 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:31.160 get a first down, we're gonna run to the ball. 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:33.920 We're gonna spike it. When you don't get the first down, 0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:36.160 you can't spike it and set up fourth down, right, 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:38.600 And that's why, not only it was a bad play 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:40.720 called because they didn't get any yards and the clock 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:44.640 ran and they had a call time out. Are we done? No? 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:46.680 I just I bumped this thing here and it doesn't 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:48.880 like to be bumped. So not only they didn't get 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:50.880 the first down, they had to waste of time out, 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:53.439 and they wasted about ten seconds before they called the 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:56.560 time out because they weren't prepared to call a time out. 0:21:56.880 --> 0:21:59.760 So it was a complete and total cluster. And I'll 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:02.280 get the sequence right here. So they get the ball 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:05.520 at their own forty two with a minute twenty left 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:08.960 and two timeouts. That's an ideal situation to at least 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:10.720 make it a one score game at the half, right, 0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:17.640 So they go Stevenson for fourteen yards. Right. Great, Now 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:20.760 it's first and ten at Buffalo's forty four with fifty 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:25.240 four seconds left. They go to Myers, pushed out of bounce, 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:30.520 clock stops for nine yards. Why with a stopped clock 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.600 do you decide to come out on second and one 0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:38.080 and run the ball? Go to Myers on the sideline 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:40.520 again and see if I can get another nine. I 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:43.800 have two timeouts, I have the whole field at my disposal. 0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:47.920 This to me was a complete and total breakdown, from 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:54.159 play calling to operations, to mindset to execution across the board. 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:58.600 Total fail. And I don't want to overstate one drive, 0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:02.320 but I don't know. In my dealings, a one score 0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:04.360 game at half is much better than a two score game. 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:07.200 A field goal there would have been very valuable. So 0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:11.160 they go second and one, they get nothing with Stevenson. 0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:13.280 They have to call a timeout, and Hardy, you're right. 0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:15.760 They waited until those thirty four seconds. The play was 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.840 snapped at fifty. They didn't call time out till thirty 0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:22.080 four seconds, and I'm telling you it's because they were 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:24.600 going to spike the ball on first and ten, and 0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:27.639 then they realized it ain't first and ten. We can't 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:31.880 spike it. So then they have to waste it by 0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:35.840 calling a quarterback sneake. It's third and one. You don't 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:38.520 need to sneak it to what all the other teams do, 0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:41.480 and throw a sixteen yard pass on third and one. 0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:46.320 You're in plus territory and you're threatening to score, right 0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:50.000 like to me, if you you know, you burn a 0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:51.720 time out and that's what you come up. But throw 0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:54.320 a fifteen yard PA, throw a ten yard pass. If 0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:58.480 it's incomplete the quarterbacks now you're in go for it. 0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:00.520 And so of course after the quarterback sneak you have 0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:04.240 to do what call a time out. So now we're 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:07.760 down to thirty two seconds and we're at the Buffalo 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:10.439 thirty three yard line. No time out, and so what 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:12.440 does that mean? So when if you have to set 0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:14.199 up for a field goal, you can't stop that. So 0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:16.920 what So what's off the table? I'm at thirty in 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:18.440 the middle of the field. I'm at the thirty three 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:20.879 yard line with thirty two seconds left. Touchdowns off the 0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:24.040 table unless the Bills completely fall asleep and you can't 0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:27.000 run the ball. Yeah, you can't run the ball. As 0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:29.479 Fred said, you can't go over the middle. The only 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:31.560 way you're gonna be able to score a touchdown is 0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:35.040 if somebody on Buffalo completely has a brain fire. So 0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:38.800 so you end up with a field goal. Sorry, Hardy, 0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:41.040 it's a forty eight yard field goal and your guy 0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:44.520 can't kick those when it gets cold. His leg is tired. 0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:47.760 Fred Fred had a theory that got a tired leg 0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:50.080 because because that that's another one on a bad lip, 0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:52.280 Like I'm down on the on the whole approach tonight, 0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:55.880 but like part of this, so we have to activate 0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:59.320 Tristan Viscayno to kick off tonight, right, and he can't 0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:01.960 get it beyond the five yard line? Right? I bet 0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:05.040 Nick Folk can do that. I mean, it's Fred Fred 0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:07.480 surmise that maybe Nick Folks like's tired. So that's the 0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:09.480 end of my rant. Maybe he has tired blood. He 0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:14.440 needs jaritol. It cures tired blood. Um, just two quick things. 0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:16.760 It was that it was excellent, It was excellent. I 0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:19.760 think there's some issues with some in game awareness up 0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:22.400 and down the roster and the coaching staff right now. 0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:26.480 Violent agreement. And let's also not forget the reason why 0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:29.119 they're in that position in the first place. Is is 0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:31.800 twofold number one? Great play to get the ball back. 0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:35.560 But what happened on the Patriots possession before that? You 0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:38.880 went three and out, burned about forty five seconds off 0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:42.360 the clock and gave the ball back to the Bills 0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:45.760 with two minutes and three seconds and all their time outs. Correct, 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:48.359 you were very lucky, this is what I'm saying. And 0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:49.760 that was the point where they were just kind of 0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.919 chucking a little bit. And oh, by the way, and oh, 0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:54.919 by the way, two you know, two plays before the 0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.159 strip stacked by uj was a fifty yard touchdown was 0:25:57.200 --> 0:25:58.840 called back and it was a good call. I'm not 0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:01.359 saying it was a fluke, but I got news for you, 0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:05.080 Josh Allen didn't need that hold. Tommy Sweeney held Matt 0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:07.840 jude On in that plate. Unquestionably he didn't need it. 0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:10.240 He was rolling out around him and he was throwing 0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:13.240 that pass. Whether Sweeney held jude On or not. So 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:15.199 so it could have been twenty four to seven to 0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:18.320 you a point hardy because they didn't do anything offensively. 0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:20.480 As bad as that sequence was, and the way you 0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.440 broke it down was brilliant, Paul. Let's not forget about 0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:25.840 the possession the Patriots had before that, where they it 0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:27.880 was a quick three and out burned almost no time, 0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:30.879 gave the ball back to the Bills with just over 0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:33.520 two minutes. They play off before the two minute warning, 0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:37.960 and you're you were fortunate to get the ball. Yeah, 0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:41.440 that that series was started at the Patriots fifteen incomplete 0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.840 to Stevenson screened to Marcus Jones for three yards incomplete 0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:48.399 to Myers punt right. So the Bills ended up getting 0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:50.119 the ball back at their forty three. This is why 0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:52.680 I'm saying, like again, you look at the end of 0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:55.880 the day and you say, wow, Patriot's defense wasn't that bad. 0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:58.919 You know, there was a lot of good fortune for 0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:02.760 the Patriots defense. Yeah, And like we said, the Bills 0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:05.000 let up, oh at the end, at the end of 0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:07.359 the day of the third quarter. By since from the 0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:11.080 end of the third quarter, they they were not intentional 0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:13.640 about scoring. They were just intentional. But have you ever 0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:16.560 seen that line up with the like the extra linemen 0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:18.560 and just say we're just gonna grind it out here. 0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:20.880 And it works because they ran the ball. Yeah, thank god, 0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:23.360 because it kept the clock running and we got under 0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:25.760 three hours tonight, Freddie you know, but I mean, you know, 0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:28.800 it's like you can't help, but wonder, you know, would 0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:30.679 if you had scored, if you had put the pressure 0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.040 on the Bills a little bit? You know, I'm not 0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:33.679 saying that they would have made mistakes in them, but 0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:37.479 you never even pressure if your offensive given the defense 0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:40.040 some hope, maybe they you know, who knows. But but 0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:43.919 the Bills, there was nothing threatening about the Patriots tonight, 0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:46.480 you know. And yeah, and that's and that and and 0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:48.520 Paul had they had to bring a guy out off 0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:51.480 the defense to score touchdown. You know, it's like, I'm 0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.080 just I'm struggling. Its great, but you know, what are 0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:57.080 we doing seventeen ten at the half? Is? It just 0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.840 feels different? And I don't know, I don't know that 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.879 you'll hold the Bills scoreless in the third quarter. Maybe 0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:06.280 they change their mindset a little bit and and become 0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:08.840 a little more aggressive. But but to Mike's point, make 0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:11.720 them do that, make them, make them happen. They never 0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.360 put any game pressure on them. Don't make us sit 0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:16.600 here in question as to whether or not they would 0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.320 have changed their approach a little bit. Just right, get it, 0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:21.639 get it into a makeable range for a guy with 0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:27.000 a tired leg. Yeah, it's true. Telling Um, I'm just 0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.360 I'm having trouble getting down to individuals on this bad 0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:31.480 list because I don't have I don't really have any 0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:33.679 I'm just I think the thing that I'm most upset 0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:37.439 with is the coaching decision to point the offense in 0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:41.000 this direction starting back in the summer, and it has 0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:44.120 failed origins. It's failed, you know, like I don't, I 0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:48.720 don't know how ansen no progression, there's no reason to 0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:51.920 have any confidence in any of this going forward for 0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.280 the rest of the season, much less going into next season. 0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:57.200 So like, that's where I'm at right now. I'm just 0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.640 frustrated that this this, this has been a disaster and 0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.160 there can tinuing to make the same mistakes. They can't 0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:05.480 string to drive together yet, And you know, how much 0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:07.160 more proof do you need? This is what it is. 0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:10.320 I'm not kidding when I really do have thousands of 0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:12.920 people that around this blog, and you know, hundreds of 0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:16.960 them send comments, so I'm here, I'm hearing now, I'm 0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:19.920 hearing from hundreds of fans during the game, and there 0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:23.880 was a common theme what are the Crafts thing? What 0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:27.120 are the Crafts gonna do? What are they thinking they 0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:31.000 gotta do something? Their name was mentioned in this game 0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:34.280 more than any other game I've remember in recent memory, 0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:38.600 Like what are the Crafts thinking about this? That's that 0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.200 was a common theme on the blog tonight. Right. Well, 0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:43.640 I mean you heard it all offseason of you know, 0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:46.040 anybody who is you know, critical of the Patriots, and 0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:50.200 rightly so. But everything that those people who crushed them 0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:53.280 about this, Matt Patricia Heart, they were completely right, like 0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:56.479 this was completely the wrong decision. They can't string an 0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:59.840 offense together. I mean we're in December now, like, so 0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.520 I think something major has to change going into the 0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:05.120 next offseason. I don't know how. And you know, we're 0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:07.680 talking about like Odell Beckham, like I can't even get 0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:10.360 like you know, and you can and you can. They 0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:13.880 had Connor McDermott playing all right, but other teams get 0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:16.840 decimated offensive lines. Here the team had something named Quest 0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:20.240 playing on one one one leg. But they figure out 0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:24.080 like how to muster something that resembles an NFL offense. 0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.440 We we're having trouble doing that. Like I said, we 0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:29.360 had to pull a guy from defense to score a 0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:34.400 touchdown tonight. Otherwise, another game where you got three points seven? 0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:37.760 Oh yeah, no three, you're right, yeah three. Um, so 0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.840 I have another little not quite as detailed of a rants. 0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:44.520 But there was a juncture at the to the middle 0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:46.920 to the end of the third quarter, right, so it's 0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:53.000 still seventeen seven, and it was the drive that. Um 0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:55.680 you had a couple of runs by Stevenson that they 0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:58.160 really didn't block very well, and he just like one 0:30:58.200 --> 0:30:59.560 of them, he went into the pile for like a 0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:02.160 yard and all the linemen pushed him for like eleven 0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.480 at eleven, you know, and then he broke a tackle. 0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:06.440 You got hit by two guys in the backfield, and 0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:10.280 sudden how he scored a loose So just real quick, 0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:15.720 it was Stevenson right tackle for seven, Stevenson for six, 0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.880 plus a penalty on the bills for defensive holding. So 0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:22.040 you know, it's like a thirteen yard play Stevenson for eleven. 0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:24.120 That was the play. The whole offensive line pushed him 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:27.000 ten yards, so it kind of looks like, oh, we 0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:28.600 got to going here on the ground. But if you 0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:31.480 saw the plays, they didn't have it going on the ground. 0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.320 It was all Stevenson and it was all sort of 0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:36.720 yards after content, the whole team picking them up and 0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:39.560 carrying them. So now it's first and ten, Buffalo forty 0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:41.880 five with nine twenty eight left in the third quarter. 0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:46.600 Mac Jones is under center, and I'm looking and I 0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:48.240 got my buddy even next to me, and I'm like, 0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:50.800 here's your hard play action, ev there it comes here 0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:54.640 it comes. Nope, hand off to Stevenson, four yard loss. 0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:58.720 Like right, I don't want to make too much of 0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:01.200 a like an individual play call. I think play calling 0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:04.000 in general is largely overrated. I'm glad was a time 0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:06.960 I'm glad to take a shot. I'm glad you said that, Paul. 0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.320 It's like and I was thinking to myself the phrase 0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:11.280 I use you went to the well one too many 0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:13.960 times here, you know, hey, so here's where he get 0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:16.160 up take get get the ball in the air. And 0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:17.920 you might say, well, it was one play, like a 0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:22.200 good okay, So on the next play your patchwork offensive 0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:25.880 line Fred's talking about like Connor McDermott, which Mac was 0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:28.200 under siege all night. He only got sacked once, but 0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:30.880 I mean, I don't know how that's sixty yards rushing 0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:34.400 sideways right behind. Mac did a really good job of 0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:36.760 avoiding a lot of sacks tonight. But on the next 0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:40.280 play he gets completely blitz creaked and it has to leave. 0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:42.640 The pocket, rolls out and throws a pick to Jordan 0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:46.880 Poyer and Fred what was it? They ended up overturning it. 0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.480 Oh yeah, terrible call, right, It's the same as the 0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:52.160 Hunter Henry. Well, the Henry call was worse because he 0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:56.320 you know, and he broke I'm sorry, but this this 0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:58.240 was the same thing. It's like it was a catch, 0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:01.000 you know, right, Think it was the same thing. I 0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:03.680 thought Hunter Henry's was a touch. And see I'm very consistent. 0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:07.280 Fred's very consistent, like catches catches a catch, you know what, 0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:09.040 when you see it, the guy has two hands, he 0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:11.800 hasn't secured their two feet down. He's made a football move. 0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:13.960 He made it. I don't know when they decided to 0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:16.360 just put that phrase survived the ground back in the 0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.400 rule book, but they did. He made he made a 0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:21.959 football move to get two feet and ground ground. That is, 0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:25.440 by definition a football move, right, I think he got three. Yeah, 0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:27.760 and he's now his knees down. And then I gotta 0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:29.320 be honest with you, I don't think I don't even 0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:31.360 think it's And watched this, I don't think they're all 0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.120 ever even hit the ground. No, it just seemed like 0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:35.000 it moved a little bit. The first foot is down, 0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:39.600 watched their second. Then he he gets three down. It's 0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:43.080 a catch in every sense of the words. So anyway, believable. 0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:46.440 So now it's third. Now it's third and fourteen, and 0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:48.720 they throw a short little pass over the middle to 0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:51.720 Kobe Myers, and I'm thinking, I'm gonna go for it 0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:53.880 a fourth down, right, Like if you're throwing the ball 0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:55.840 that far short of the sticks you're gonna go for 0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:59.920 a fourth down. Nope, they punt, and I pointed out 0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.320 that that was the one really well executed punt of 0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:04.040 the night, at thirty eight yard punt. You down it 0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:06.520 at the six. Here we go, see if Josh Allen 0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:08.200 will throw one to us. He almost threw one to 0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.399 us in the first half. Let's see if he throws 0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:14.200 one to us. Fifteen plays, ninety four yards, eight minutes, 0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:20.000 fifty five seconds, game set match. So that's why I 0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:23.840 can't like tell you like the defense. The offense was 0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.840 far more responsible for this loss than the defense. But 0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:30.200 all right, I mean, you know, part of it is 0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:33.440 frustration because I think the four of us would all 0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:36.960 admit the other team is better than us. Yeah, oh yeah, right, yeah. Well, 0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:38.839 I mean I don't even think they played well all 0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.360 that well tonight. I mean they didn't have I continue 0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:45.759 to be amazed by the quarterback connection with guys like 0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:48.960 Jefferson and Diggs. Where I mean I said it tonight, 0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:51.120 watch out for Diggs on this. You can't stop it. 0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:52.960 You know where it's going him. I know he's going 0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:56.399 to him. I got very pouty after a while. Yeah, 0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:58.960 there was a thing, but you know, it's just it's 0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:01.680 it's remarkable that, you know, even a guy like that 0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:04.200 who's that good, they still find a way to make 0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:07.080 it consistently. So not that I think Buffalo played bad 0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:08.879 because they didn't, but I'm just saying, like, you didn't 0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:11.040 really get the right they had at least four drops. 0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:13.440 At least four drop would you would you be worried? 0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:16.080 But watching the Patriots offense and one of the punts, 0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:19.359 I think the first punt that elicited the Bronx cheer 0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:23.520 was a throw that hit Digs right right in the floor. Yeah, 0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:27.319 and he just dropped it like down. You never see that. Yeah. Um, 0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:29.920 there's there's something that has kind of taken over Twitter 0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:33.680 right now. And I first saw it from our well 0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:35.760 it's it's coming at me from a few different sources. 0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:37.520 And now the Mats have picked up on this too. 0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:40.480 It's it's a sideline camera of Mac Jones come and 0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:45.200 do uh off the field, and Sports Illustrated has retweeted 0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:50.400 it now with their own God close Caps throw the 0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:56.520 FFing ball, FFing running game sucks. So he's yelling, you know, 0:35:56.640 --> 0:36:00.200 toward you know, the play callers, toward Patricia conceivably or 0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:02.279 something you know somewhere in the direction of you know what, 0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:06.880 shut up because the passing game sucks too. You know, 0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.160 shut up, Mac. This is twice, you know, don't don't, 0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:14.200 don't do that. Don't separate yourself from the mess, because 0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:16.520 you're part of it. This is twice this week. I 0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:21.920 am that's that's Ladanian Tomlinson act to me. You know 0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:23.880 where things aren't going bad, and all of a sudden 0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.239 I've got the answer. You know, I'm not really part 0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:29.520 of the problem. Yeah, don't, don't, don't start, but I would. 0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.640 But I gotta say I would rather them throw the 0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:35.680 ball for incompletions than to take more of those four 0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:39.239 yard losses than negative plays are enough. Ye do it 0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:42.800 quietly with your OC or your head head coach. Don't 0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:46.719 start yelling that. As bad as the running game tonight, 0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:50.359 I know. And he wasn't sharp at all. He had 0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:54.360 a lot of arant throws, would say, of all the people, 0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:58.239 Taekwon Thornton had two catches on two badly thrown balls. Right, 0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:02.719 don't get but I thought he had. I thought he 0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.279 had Myers on a pass over the middle that he 0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:09.480 overshot him. I thought he overshot m Parker on a 0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:12.359 play the one on the sideline that he I think 0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:14.840 he drifted Parker too far out of bounds. He landed 0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:17.480 out of bounds. I don't think Mac was very good tonight. 0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:19.120 I mean I wouldn't put him on the bad list 0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:21.319 per se, because I do think he was under a Yeah, 0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:23.920 he was a medic amount of pressure. Yeah, but I 0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:26.160 don't think he was very good. But this isn't the 0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:29.360 game to be saying our passing attack is no and 0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:30.920 then to save us, you know, and this is one 0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:33.880 of those games where it starts to go bad and 0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:38.000 you know people are turning. That's what happens. And you 0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:41.160 can't be the guy turning it, right, um, you know, 0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:43.560 you gotta be the guy keeping it from turning. Can 0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:47.480 I ask just a quick rules clarification here, because there's 0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:50.920 also some people getting on Michael Winner tonight. Um. For 0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:53.759 one play in particular, the player Mac is out there 0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:55.840 running for his life. He must be, you know, covered 0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:58.800 fifty yards and talking, circling around and at one point 0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:01.880 one who is standing there and watching he's kind of 0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:05.239 watching him run behind him and there is there's a 0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.040 defender chasing him, chasing him down, and when who just 0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:10.160 kind of lets him go trump. Brown was kind of 0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:11.399 doing that too on that play. I don't I mean, 0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:13.080 I don't know. It's a hard play though, because you 0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:16.880 don't want me. Would he have been blocking him going 0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:20.120 the wrong excuse me, the wrong way? And I believe 0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:21.919 that is a penalty. Yes, I would have to see 0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:25.839 can't turn his back essentially down field, which he would 0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:28.440 have needed to do almost. Yeah, you can't hit a 0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:33.440 guy facing your goal line. That was essentially what he 0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:34.919 would have had to do. It would have been closed, 0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:36.120 it would have been on. It would have been hard 0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:39.279 to do. But but look, it wasn't a great look 0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:42.520 for anything offensively tonight, but especially when when when your 0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:44.960 quarterback is running for his life and he was kind 0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:48.360 of standing still. Yeah, well said he had tired, Like 0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:50.759 I mean, I've said to Paul coming down him like 0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:52.880 that play sums up this season for the offense. For me, 0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:56.040 Mac just like running around like crazy. People are just 0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.759 kind of standing around watching him. Nobody's open and he's 0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:02.080 like losing his mind. Uh. Just I mean, it's it's 0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:03.920 it sucks that all these things are coming out now 0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:05.920 at the end, because I don't really don't need any 0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:08.000 cherry on top of this. We're gonna be doing all Sunday, 0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:10.160 We're gonna be doing a lot more bad. We can 0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:12.160 sprinkle them out, but let's take care of the injured 0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:13.960 real quick and we'll get to our phone calls here. 0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:17.520 Jacoby Myers took that that tough hit hand zone. He 0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:20.520 was evaluated for a head injury, so that's something tomorrow. 0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:23.040 It seems like he's but he's just been getting beat up. Man. 0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:26.520 Seeing David David Andrews back out there tonight, you know, 0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:31.080 and didn't you know, appear to be I don't know, 0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:34.160 it's so tough to tell. I mean, the rest of 0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:38.919 the offensive line is just, you know, a patchwork right now. 0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:42.160 But in the fact that Andrews was playing and didn't 0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:45.680 seem yeah, I don't think it's snaps were limited, you 0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:47.840 know out there. I mean, you say it's a patchwork, 0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:51.319 but really it was only one guy out right, Yeah, yeah, 0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:53.520 you're right. It was just Connor McDermott. It was the 0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:57.279 same as their situation the offensive line. Basically, it was bad. 0:39:57.360 --> 0:39:59.560 All right. We do need to step side briefly here 0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:01.040 and then we'll get back and we'll go straight to 0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:04.440 your calls. So hang with us for just a trust 0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:06.960 me very short break and a big thank you to 0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:10.680 our sponsor Microsoft. 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Patriots, 0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:12.520 of course lose this one tonight to the bills that 0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:14.560 you're let staydium, I don't know what you're laughing about. 0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:17.000 Twenty four ten to final what do you got a Christian? 0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:22.160 You know I'm laughing because first of all, hey, welcome, welcome, 0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:25.280 g I think it's taking my call tough my tough season. 0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:28.960 And I'm laughing because it's you know, it's apparent to 0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:31.239 me that I'm going to have to say something that 0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:34.160 I haven't said or felt in about twenty years, right, 0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:37.520 and that's that we are a bad team from top 0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:41.640 to bottom, from coaching to execution. We're a bad team. 0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:44.120 And it doesn't feel good right now to be a 0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:47.440 Patriots fan. And this is what it looks like when 0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:50.000 you don't have an offersive coordinat that knows what you're doing, 0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:54.520 a guy that can evaluate with some skill and some experience, 0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:58.880 the talent that you have on your team, individual player talent, 0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:02.000 find innovative, creative ways to get those guys the ball 0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:05.080 in space. In the modern game, this is what the 0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:08.920 offense looks like when that's your situation and that's style situation. 0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:13.840 You know, it's almost it's almost to me at the 0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:16.799 point where you have to say, but the seasons sort 0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:20.200 of over right, I see two or three losses ahead 0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:23.920 of us, and even if we miraculously make the playoffs, 0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:27.200 even if we did well in the playoffs, somehow we 0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:30.279 are so far away from beating this team guys that 0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:33.080 we would have to meet them and face them in 0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:35.520 the playoffs anyway, and you almost want to go, let's 0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:37.520 start looking at some of the younger guys and seeing 0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:39.960 what we had and making a plan for next year. 0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:42.839 What do you guys agree with me at all? I 0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:44.279 do agree with you. I wish there were more young 0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:49.719 players to look at. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I say, 0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:53.080 I get the frustration. I can hear it in your voice, Christian, 0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:56.879 But yeah, I don't think it's a bad team. The team. 0:43:57.040 --> 0:43:59.239 I think it's an average team. But you're just in, 0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:01.759 You're just in the mix. You're just in the media. 0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:04.279 You're not even anyone have given my blood and tis 0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:08.239 on other feat to this, okay, and you see us grow, 0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:11.719 and you see it's become this dynasty, that that rival execution, 0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:15.960 that thrives on on on mental toughness, that risal, all 0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:19.200 these things are that are the fundamentals of football. And 0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:22.239 you have one main player lead and to see all 0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:26.600 sort of giving we break down. Okay, it's more than frustrating. 0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:30.680 Its disheartening as a Patriot, diehard, as a Patriots fan. 0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:33.279 And you want to start asking some of the big questions. 0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:37.040 All right, all right, thank you, Christian. I know you're 0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:40.720 trying to get him out. I've given my blood sweating, 0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:45.960 I mean, grow on. Oh um, this is a very 0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:49.280 interesting quote. This is you know the stuff I you know, Fred, 0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:52.040 I told Mike and I told Evan. Do you remember 0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:55.680 on Wednesday I told you about that Tim Hasselbeck comment 0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:58.799 that he made on ESPN. Did you get to hear it? 0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.200 So I heard. I heard him in context, and it 0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:06.640 wasn't about people wanting Zappy to play. It was people 0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:10.200 still harboring some resent resentment from the way the Zappy 0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:15.000 situation unfolded. In other words, that Bill wouldn't just say 0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:17.520 Mac Jones is the starter when he was hurt. When 0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:20.000 he's back healthy, he'll be the starter, sort of let 0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:22.680 him twist in the wind and the inference there. And 0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:25.399 Hasselbeck did not use all these words. He just said 0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:30.360 there's still some lingering fallout from the Zappy situation in 0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:33.920 the locker room he said, or not with the team. 0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:36.080 He said, with Mac Jones and with the team. I 0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:41.239 think that was the words he used. And I think 0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:43.800 that what he's talking about is like Jacoby Myers, who 0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:46.560 was outspoken after the Chicago game, didn't like the way 0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:50.239 the whole thing unfolded. This isn't. Can't you see this? Well, 0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:54.920 definitely Mac Jones, I mean, but felgern Mas surmised that 0:45:55.000 --> 0:46:00.359 there's a gang of five. It's Mac Jones, Kendrick Bourne, Kobeys, 0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:04.160 David Andrews, and Hunter Henry. This is a comment. I'm 0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:07.239 looking at Andrew Callahan's twitter. Do you see this? I'm 0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:10.719 seeing it. This is a fascinating quote. Kendrick Boyne. Do 0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:13.320 the Patriots need to play different on third down? Kendrick 0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:16.920 boy quote, Yeah, man, we need to scheme up better. 0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:19.680 We need to know what they're doing. We need to 0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:22.200 know what they want to do on third down. They 0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:24.560 call this, and we call that, and it falls right 0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:28.680 into what they want. These like, if you want to 0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:31.600 be if you want to be frustrated with the way 0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:34.440 the direction that the team is going, that's a very 0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:37.600 frustrating comment to hear out of you a locker room 0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:41.359 after a loss. To Fred's point, you can't say, well, 0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:45.400 the running games to bleep and not take any responsibility 0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:47.839 for the passing game. This is, you know, don't throw 0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:50.720 it all on the coaches. You know you're a team. 0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:52.480 Don't throw it all on the coach. Yeah, we got 0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:54.799 to execute better. Is the answer to that question in 0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:57.520 the locker room. So I think there's something to that 0:46:57.560 --> 0:47:00.719 hassleback thing. I think there's some resentment in the locker room. 0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:03.960 I think there's been a lack of faith overall in 0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:06.600 the plan from the start from Mac Jones, and I 0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:10.160 think that's per permeating through some of the members of 0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:12.360 the offense. And I think that's part of the problem. 0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:14.279 I'm not telling you it's the problem. I think it's 0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:16.800 part of the I've been a little skeptical of that stuff, 0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:19.600 but I believe it. You're starting to see this come 0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:21.400 out now. And as you know, we talked last year 0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:23.440 about Matthew Slayer saying we're at a turning point. I 0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:25.279 don't think that was a real turning point. I think 0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:26.959 right now is a real turning point for this team 0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:29.040 because based on things that are coming out. And I 0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:32.680 should mention that some people are pushing back on what 0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:35.160 Mac actually said on that video. I haven't listened to it. 0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:38.160 I'm not as concerned about what matt said slight heat 0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:39.920 of the moment. I just want to you know, some 0:47:40.280 --> 0:47:42.239 people are at me. I can't listen to it right now. 0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:44.840 I don't know what it is, but you know, just regardless. 0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:46.520 I mean, these things that are happening right now, this 0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:48.440 is not good. And I mean, coming into this game, 0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:50.160 you knew it was kind of a must win, but 0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:52.080 like I didn't see it as so much as a 0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:53.640 must win to make the playoffs. It's just felt like 0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:55.560 a must win for the psyche of the team. And 0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:57.560 I think what you're seeing right now, or at least 0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:01.960 a play well like you, like you Austin Minnesota, but offensively, 0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:04.160 I think there were a lot of reasons to be optimistic. 0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:07.160 You move the ball at will, you put some points 0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:09.800 on the board, and you looked like a representative offense. 0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:11.720 Tonight it was right back to the Jets and Colts. 0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:14.800 You looked like you did against the Jets and Colts tonight. 0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:18.359 Right you couldn't move the ball, and like if if 0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:20.920 mac Jones didn't say that, I don't care. I watched 0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:23.480 him on the field on third time when they fumbled, 0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:27.600 he banged his thigh like a spoiled brat, like he 0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:30.440 is at times when things aren't going well. And there 0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:32.839 was another point, frustrated came off the field. I think 0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:36.200 it was like fourth and six or seven or whatever. 0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:38.680 It was a punt situation and he came off the 0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:41.560 field like throw it, throw it, like he wanted to 0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:45.480 go for it. It's like Mac, settle down. You know what? 0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:48.680 What what gives your coaches any faith that you're going 0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:52.120 to convert that? Okay? I know I want to counter 0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:56.880 that though, Okay, I am not killing Mac heat of 0:48:56.920 --> 0:48:59.279 the moment on the field, like if he whether he 0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:02.040 said running it or not, or the run game spinks 0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:05.880 or not. Whatever. I don't think the coaches coached the 0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:07.800 second half to win. I think the coaches coach the 0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:10.520 second half to stay close. And I hate that. I 0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:13.680 hate it that fourth thound play you're on plus territory. 0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:17.200 It was like fourth and seven, fourth and five goal 0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:20.759 for that? Why not? I mean, especially when you're not 0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:22.239 gonna use your timeouts at the end and you're just 0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:24.839 gonna con and then fold it the end with one 0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:27.800 left and you know you're down to score. I wouldn't 0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:29.759 hold that against him, But I'm just if that to 0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:33.640 me is not playing. But they kicking a field goal 0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:37.400 on you know, down seventeen points, like you are you 0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:40.400 trying to just stay close? No? But I I agree 0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:42.319 with you, Paul. But what I what I don't like 0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:47.560 is Mac hasn't earned the right to start yelling at coaches. Oh, absolutely, 0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:49.440 you're right about that. What has he done to show 0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:51.879 coaches that this is a guy that we go with 0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:56.319 it for, you know, like, be quiet, you know, for now, 0:49:56.520 --> 0:49:59.200 until you've proven that we'll put the ball in your 0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:02.160 hand on fourth seven. You know, you haven't earned the 0:50:02.239 --> 0:50:04.600 right to be mad at your coaches. Yet You're right, 0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:08.640 you know, you're right about that. Absolutely. I can't agree 0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:10.799 with that across the board, like I couldn't agree with 0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:13.520 it earlier in the season, when who is Mac Jones 0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:16.839 to be questioning the play calls and the offensive plan? Well, 0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:19.759 but I'm okay with that privately, I'm with you on that, 0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:24.480 Like I'm okay with my quarterback asking why and you know, 0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:27.560 demanding an explanation about why we're changing this thing up. 0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:31.640 You know, I'm fine with my quarterback asking questions. But 0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:34.879 don't make a show of it, you know, because then 0:50:34.960 --> 0:50:37.400 that that gets that again. Don't make it out to 0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:40.200 be that you've been productive, right, don't make it out 0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:43.160 to be that you've given Bill Belichick faith? Like why 0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:45.160 did they kick the field goal last year in the 0:50:45.239 --> 0:50:47.359 rain against Tampa Bay when it was fourth and three 0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:49.600 and they kicked the fifty six shot. Because you haven't 0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:52.719 gotten any third downs all night, Mac, Why if you 0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:55.879 scored sixteen points in the game, if Larry Bird just says, 0:50:56.000 --> 0:50:58.399 just give me the ball with three seconds left, I'll 0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:01.719 win you. Okay, you've Larry Bird. You're not You're not 0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:04.720 Larry Bird yet. You're not Tom Brady, you're not Josh Allen. 0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:07.000 I mean, I think you could hear from Christian's voice. 0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:08.560 I mean, and I think it's it's the same thing 0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:10.680 for the players, and I think the frustration is boiling over. 0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:13.080 They've been at this thing for four months, boiling over 0:51:13.200 --> 0:51:19.040 here and our radio studio, you had a guy who, 0:51:19.160 --> 0:51:21.600 out of the five quarterbacks taken in the first round, 0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:24.760 was universally accepted to I have the best rookie season 0:51:24.880 --> 0:51:27.400 last year. And things fell apart toward the end of 0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:29.879 the year. But what do you do to help him 0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:32.399 improve and build upon that? You bring in a guy 0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:35.400 to coach the offense who has no business coach in 0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:38.520 the offense. By by many people's estimations, five and nine, 0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:43.080 his last fourteen starts yeah to the hearty's point and 0:51:43.600 --> 0:51:48.000 instead of giving you, um, not that he's deserving of 0:51:48.000 --> 0:51:51.480 of of more weapons, but they really haven't given him 0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:54.000 anything more to work with, and you essentially take a 0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:56.879 step back in terms of coaching and the offensive game 0:51:56.920 --> 0:51:59.399 plan for the season. So I want to give Moby 0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:03.600 j doesn't I understand the frustration we need to Nobody 0:52:03.680 --> 0:52:06.719 wants to see. Nobody wants to see players yelling at 0:52:06.719 --> 0:52:09.280 their own guys, at their own coaches, at their own players. 0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:13.439 But the christ, Look, this is real. All the other 0:52:13.520 --> 0:52:16.440 crap that we're going to get in terms of, you know, 0:52:16.520 --> 0:52:19.000 the the improvement in the progress you showed, whether it 0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:21.239 was in the Jets game or this, that and the other, 0:52:21.280 --> 0:52:23.440 and how things weren't that bad when you play Buffalo, 0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:27.879 that's all nonsense. This is real. This feels authentic. I'm 0:52:27.880 --> 0:52:30.720 not saying you gotta like it. But is he wrong? 0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:34.280 Is he is? He? Is? He? Is he wrong? Name? 0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:38.160 So should David Andrews be yelling at people? Should you 0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:43.319 know any better? I think David Andrews has, like to 0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:45.279 you a point like Mac Jones hasn't earned it. David 0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:47.319 Andrews has, he has, but he doesn't do that because 0:52:47.320 --> 0:52:50.000 he's a leader. No, because no one is blaming David 0:52:50.080 --> 0:52:53.960 Andrews and saying that David Andrews sucks. He's hearing it 0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:57.399 every single day that he's not the guy. Get Tom 0:52:57.440 --> 0:52:59.920 Brady back and do something. I have him to try. 0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:01.959 You have to show the world that I'm I don't 0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:04.160 like this. Okay, So I mean it's it's so Mac 0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:06.880 is at the podium. I guess um, and I'm reading 0:53:06.920 --> 0:53:12.920 Matt Doloff's dolof Sorry, um, sorry, Matt, just kind of 0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:16.320 letting my emotions get the best of me. Um explained 0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:18.080 that he wanted to push the ball down field wall 0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:20.480 with the Pats playing from behind and needing to keep 0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:22.960 up Um. They asked him about the video that was 0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:26.560 making the round, so he said, short game sucks. Let's see, 0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:28.319 wanted to throw it deeper? Is what it sounds like. 0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:32.520 He's explaining, I don't know whatever that means. Let's go 0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:35.760 to it. Is it Suitan in Cincinnati? Am I pronouncing 0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:42.399 that correctly? There? Suedan Sudan, Hey Sudan here, yeah, yeah 0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:48.680 here you heyyyy. Paul Love you'll been a long time listener, 0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:54.319 first time caller. H yeah, I've been amazing. Uh love you'll. Hey. 0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:56.680 So one thing quick thing I want to point out. 0:53:56.800 --> 0:53:59.200 I mean, there's a lot of disappointing stuff right obviously 0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:01.919 into this game. But one thing I want to say, 0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:07.239 all right, and that is uh uh from Brown. So 0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:12.200 fourth quarter, I don't know if y'all noticed that. I 0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:13.759 want I want y'all to go back and look at this. 0:54:13.960 --> 0:54:18.160 This I noticed it's a lot of times fourth quarters, 0:54:18.400 --> 0:54:22.080 second and ten. While Buffo was up twenty four, page 0:54:22.239 --> 0:54:28.120 was the seventh, and it was shotgun. Four receivers go 0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:34.799 down Krant Brown literally gave up on the play. Mick 0:54:34.880 --> 0:54:39.160 middle of play well, Ack Jones was struggling to find 0:54:39.239 --> 0:54:42.560 protection receivers. Brown did not play well at all tonight. 0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:46.280 I agree with you. I mean this, I want y'all 0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:51.160 to I have been watching him play but but but 0:54:51.160 --> 0:54:55.040 but this play and maybe this was the one that 0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:57.360 is sticked out. I think obviously they did because I 0:54:57.400 --> 0:55:00.359 was watching him. But but before the nastpect he he gave. 0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:03.600 He gave up midway. He gave up midway while Magic 0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:07.279 was struggling to find open spots to go up to 0:55:07.680 --> 0:55:11.920 us right and everything he gave he was not trying. 0:55:12.200 --> 0:55:14.359 I don't want to make excuses for Trent Brown, but 0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:16.440 there had to be some reason why he didn't even 0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:18.160 come out for warm ups. Oh yeah, you know he 0:55:18.200 --> 0:55:20.840 was dealing with an illness. There's no doubt about that. Yeah, 0:55:20.880 --> 0:55:22.799 but he just I mean, he played like he did 0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:24.319 in the last game. To be honestly, I thought like 0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:29.040 trying to cut guys at strange times, even like I 0:55:29.560 --> 0:55:31.439 never I'm never a big fan of the cut block 0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:34.239 for an offensive lineman unless it's a screen to that side. 0:55:34.280 --> 0:55:35.600 You got to get the guy off his feet so 0:55:35.800 --> 0:55:38.360 he doesn't knock the pass down. Because he cut a 0:55:38.360 --> 0:55:40.520 guy tonight, I think it was Epanessa got back, he 0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:43.160 got back up and affected the throw was still in 0:55:43.200 --> 0:55:45.920 the ground, right, So I think you just take yourself 0:55:45.920 --> 0:55:50.399 out of the play. Um, how about Eric in New Jersey? Eric? 0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:53.439 Go about Eric? Yeah, you're on the Patriots postgame show 0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:59.920 presented by Cyber Reason Eric. Yes, yes, even no hard 0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:04.759 he's operating the board. First of all, well, call your 0:56:04.800 --> 0:56:08.239 the uncle I never had, dude, you're my guy. I 0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:10.279 know you're you're working in you're working your way into it, 0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:12.640 but your family. I sent a couple of missiles to 0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:15.719 some of the people that you know, sent some you know, 0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:18.680 some nonsense comments your way. So pduce your family now. 0:56:21.160 --> 0:56:24.080 But but fellas, we we gotta we gotta address that. 0:56:24.280 --> 0:56:27.279 I mean, I wasn't there. I was in the camp 0:56:27.360 --> 0:56:29.600 that you know, maybe Mac wasn't the guy. You know, 0:56:29.719 --> 0:56:32.319 maybe Max still isn't the guy. But the offensive play 0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:38.200 calling is is atrocious. I mean, we have Johnny Smith 0:56:38.200 --> 0:56:40.040 even he's on the cap, he's on the cap for 0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:43.200 next year for eighteen point five, got him? Why do 0:56:43.239 --> 0:56:45.279 you keep throwing the ball to him at you know, 0:56:45.360 --> 0:56:48.280 at the line of scrimmage and then you know Vermond 0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:50.680 and Stevenson, he's gonna he's gonna get three hundred touches 0:56:50.680 --> 0:56:54.200 this year. And at what point the guy's gonna wear down? 0:56:54.200 --> 0:56:56.919 And where he called his agent? Where you know, we're 0:56:56.960 --> 0:56:59.719 just wearing the guy down for for nothing? I mean, 0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:03.960 and then the defense Bill you had all off seasons 0:57:04.080 --> 0:57:06.560 to figure out a game plant against the builds. The 0:57:06.600 --> 0:57:10.360 builds we consider the class of the AFC. Whether you 0:57:10.440 --> 0:57:13.920 said the Dolphins regards to what they did, the Bills 0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:16.080 were the class that you know, all right, They obviously 0:57:16.520 --> 0:57:18.880 they dog walked us again, they dog walked us tonight. 0:57:18.880 --> 0:57:21.080 They could have they could apply the pressure more tonight, 0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:22.960 but they knew they had to do nothing more. They 0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:25.920 were running easily at it as at an easy clip 0:57:25.960 --> 0:57:29.320 for us against tonight. You did nothing to stop to 0:57:29.320 --> 0:57:33.080 stop them. They're the class them, the Dolphins. So what 0:57:34.320 --> 0:57:37.680 at what what promise does this team have? I mean, 0:57:37.760 --> 0:57:42.480 Matt Patricius, Matt Patricia, I get it, you're an engineer, 0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:46.600 but you're a moron. Is a neat I hate, I 0:57:46.920 --> 0:57:49.120 hate to go there, but at what point does this 0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:52.560 team take the next step? And you guys talked Induced 0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:55.120 and Paul, you guys talked about it this offseason. Who 0:57:55.160 --> 0:57:58.240 were who were the young guys who would you build around? 0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:02.000 Pace should take the build around this off season? Obviously 0:58:02.120 --> 0:58:07.240 ramondre Stevenson, he proved he's taking that build, but whilst 0:58:07.280 --> 0:58:11.640 from that class. Obviously Marcus Jones obviously too. But yeah, 0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:13.680 there's no I don't know if Marcus Jones is going 0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:17.080 to be part of the offense. But they need more 0:58:17.760 --> 0:58:20.320 playmakers on offense. It's the same stuff we talked about 0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:25.160 all summer. I'll spring you have good players. I think 0:58:25.160 --> 0:58:27.680 you have a bunch of two slash threes like I 0:58:27.680 --> 0:58:31.360 don't think that they I don't think Parker Myers born 0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:34.560 in Agalore is a terrible group of wide receivers. I 0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:39.360 do strongly believe in you need a stud. The stud 0:58:39.400 --> 0:58:42.400 takes the pressure off of everybody else, and I think 0:58:42.400 --> 0:58:45.400 they're they're missing that. And they're also just sort of 0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:49.120 missing the guy that Mac Jones looks too when he 0:58:49.200 --> 0:58:54.480 needs a play, you know. Yeah, yea in the off season. 0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:58.920 And Dix wasn't like Jefferson last week. But Dix was 0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:01.680 the guy that I again, you allowed the other team's 0:59:01.720 --> 0:59:05.640 best player to dictate the offense. The only difference in 0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:09.680 the numbers and the stats tonight was the lead, and 0:59:09.680 --> 0:59:11.560 Buffalo just did what it needed to do. They had 0:59:11.560 --> 0:59:13.760 it comfortable, They had a two score lead for the 0:59:13.800 --> 0:59:16.120 vast majority of the game, and they I was read 0:59:16.200 --> 0:59:21.200 I just read Josh Allen's transcript. They you know they 0:59:21.440 --> 0:59:23.520 Someone asked him, did you just feel like you needed 0:59:23.520 --> 0:59:25.560 to choke him out there in the third flour with 0:59:25.680 --> 0:59:27.880 that drive? Yeah? He said, yeah. You know, they're playing 0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:29.920 two deep shell and they're daring us to run, and 0:59:30.480 --> 0:59:33.280 I thought we got physical and random they did. I mean, 0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:35.360 the numbers aren't going to jump off the page at you. 0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:40.920 But offensively, yeah, they only average three point six to carry. 0:59:40.920 --> 0:59:43.720 But thirty seven carries for one hundred and thirty two yards. 0:59:43.960 --> 0:59:47.320 So it's like, let's let's say thirty four for one 0:59:47.400 --> 0:59:49.240 hundred and thirty five because they had the three nail 0:59:49.240 --> 0:59:53.120 downs at the end. Buffalo's not a physical, grind it 0:59:53.160 --> 0:59:57.600 out team. Like when they were putting in an extra lineman. 0:59:58.480 --> 1:00:00.680 We the three of us were talking my, you, me 1:00:00.760 --> 1:00:04.880 and Evan and we're saying go ahead, like put the 1:00:04.920 --> 1:00:07.760 extra linement now for me personally, night game. I'm the 1:00:07.800 --> 1:00:10.479 clock's running. I'm happy, right, let's go. But I wasn't 1:00:10.480 --> 1:00:13.160 expecting Buffalo to play ball control for two thirds of 1:00:13.200 --> 1:00:16.160 the game the way Hardy said. By just lining up 1:00:16.160 --> 1:00:18.960 and running it, I mean goal to go down on 1:00:19.000 --> 1:00:21.040 the goal line, third and goal from the one walked 1:00:21.080 --> 1:00:24.840 in Devin Singletary walked in easily. Yeah. I agree with 1:00:24.840 --> 1:00:26.840 everything you said about the weapons, Paw. I just I 1:00:26.880 --> 1:00:28.960 think where the place I'm at right now is that 1:00:29.120 --> 1:00:32.040 I can't get by I can't get past the offensive 1:00:32.080 --> 1:00:34.919 design and the offensive install and like, I think these 1:00:34.920 --> 1:00:37.920 players are absolutely better than what they're putting out in there. 1:00:37.960 --> 1:00:40.040 But I think you could have an all star team 1:00:40.320 --> 1:00:43.800 with Odell Beckham and Tyree Hill and Jaylen waddle out 1:00:43.800 --> 1:00:45.240 there right now, and I don't know how they'd get 1:00:45.240 --> 1:00:47.439 the ball. I think it's gonna be fascinating to watch 1:00:47.440 --> 1:00:49.360 in the offseason. I'd like to see. I don't know 1:00:49.360 --> 1:00:51.919 where to start, but I do. I think it's gonna 1:00:51.920 --> 1:00:55.280 be fascinating because, like, do you guys envision Bill saying, 1:00:55.680 --> 1:00:58.200 you know that didn't work. We're gonna Matt, You're gonna 1:00:58.240 --> 1:01:02.120 go back to being now Listen, I'm telling you I 1:01:02.200 --> 1:01:05.680 made a prediction last week on the show. There's gonna 1:01:05.680 --> 1:01:08.640 be an offensive shake up this offseason. But but like, 1:01:08.840 --> 1:01:12.640 so does that require or a third system? It might 1:01:12.880 --> 1:01:14.840 so well, I don't know, they'll be banging on the 1:01:14.880 --> 1:01:17.360 five pads again. Next time. They'll be a coaching changes. 1:01:17.480 --> 1:01:19.640 I mean, I I coaching change. I just think I 1:01:19.640 --> 1:01:22.160 think it's gonna be fascinating to watch waste of time 1:01:22.360 --> 1:01:24.560 this offense. And if you're gonna try to build off 1:01:24.560 --> 1:01:27.600 of this, then you're just like bring someone in start 1:01:27.640 --> 1:01:30.720 from scratch. I don't care. You know, that's how bad 1:01:30.760 --> 1:01:33.120 it is. Like, I don't know if there's anything to 1:01:33.200 --> 1:01:37.280 salvage from what they've done on offense. Again, I'll go 1:01:37.320 --> 1:01:39.440 back to what I said earlier. The Craft's name was 1:01:39.480 --> 1:01:42.120 thrown around a lot tonight, Like what are they thinking. 1:01:42.920 --> 1:01:45.720 They don't just get their information from Belichick and take 1:01:45.760 --> 1:01:48.760 his word from it. They talk to other people too, sure, 1:01:49.040 --> 1:01:53.600 you know, and I think you know, assuming this continues 1:01:53.640 --> 1:01:55.200 the way it is the rest of the season, You've 1:01:55.240 --> 1:01:59.200 got five games left, Um, they're going to demand changes. Yeah, well, 1:01:59.240 --> 1:02:01.520 I mean, just you know, realistically, like I look, I 1:02:01.560 --> 1:02:03.560 give I give everybody a little bit of a pass. 1:02:03.640 --> 1:02:08.120 In twenty twenty Brady left, like the pandemic whatever, Like 1:02:08.160 --> 1:02:10.360 give them a pass that year. The last two years, 1:02:10.960 --> 1:02:13.960 what's progressed? Like, what's gotten better? If anything? It feels 1:02:14.000 --> 1:02:16.880 like you're just kind of slowly continuing to fall apart. 1:02:17.280 --> 1:02:19.520 You know, it doesn't feel like you really I mean, 1:02:19.560 --> 1:02:21.760 you talk about players you're excited about. I'm excited about 1:02:21.800 --> 1:02:25.880 Romandre Stevenson, I'm excited about Marcus Jones. But after that, 1:02:27.400 --> 1:02:29.560 what are you excited about with this day? Like? What 1:02:29.560 --> 1:02:32.560 do you really believe in this league? You know, it's 1:02:32.600 --> 1:02:35.040 hard to have an elite defense. Your best defense is 1:02:35.040 --> 1:02:39.000 a good offense in this league, absolutely, and they don't 1:02:39.000 --> 1:02:41.160 have absolutely, And that's and I don't know if that's 1:02:41.160 --> 1:02:43.840 like a holdover from Hey, this is you know, two 1:02:43.880 --> 1:02:48.040 thousand and three, where we can win games nineteen seventeen, um. 1:02:48.240 --> 1:02:50.680 But I just I don't think you can. I think 1:02:50.720 --> 1:02:54.600 Paul's point about having a guy is is absolutely necessary. 1:02:54.640 --> 1:02:59.240 How do you get that? If you don't think obs 1:02:59.280 --> 1:03:01.840 that guy, then it's a different argument too. Right Well, 1:03:01.880 --> 1:03:03.600 at the same time, it's like, do I feel like 1:03:03.640 --> 1:03:05.640 we're one thirty year old player away? Like I feel 1:03:05.680 --> 1:03:08.160 like we're like three three players in five years away 1:03:08.240 --> 1:03:10.880 right now now, And they're definitely more than one receiver 1:03:10.920 --> 1:03:13.960 away because they're going to have turnover at that position. 1:03:14.120 --> 1:03:19.120 I mean, I can't possibly imagine that Agilore's back. I 1:03:19.160 --> 1:03:23.360 think virtually everybody else other than Thornton is in question. 1:03:24.080 --> 1:03:27.280 You know, Jacoby Myers is a free agent. Born will 1:03:27.320 --> 1:03:28.960 be in his last year. Parker will be in his 1:03:29.080 --> 1:03:31.560 last year. Neither one of them is a you know, 1:03:31.720 --> 1:03:34.800 guaranteed to stay. So I think you're looking at an 1:03:34.800 --> 1:03:39.120 overhaul there. You know, you look at the young players 1:03:39.200 --> 1:03:43.520 and there was an ESPN behind the paywall. ESPN had 1:03:43.840 --> 1:03:48.439 the twenty five best players under the age of twenty five. 1:03:49.240 --> 1:03:51.400 Did you see this list? No? No, I mean no, Patriots, 1:03:51.440 --> 1:03:54.919 aren't it? No surprise there? Stevenson probably the only one 1:03:55.920 --> 1:03:58.320 that really had a sniff, unless you wanted to say 1:03:58.360 --> 1:04:01.480 Marcus Jones as like an he hasn't really played, no, 1:04:01.520 --> 1:04:06.280 but even before tonight, you know, right, But twenty five players, 1:04:06.320 --> 1:04:09.480 and the list of the twenty five players is really impressive. 1:04:09.960 --> 1:04:14.840 Like they're good, good players around the league. And just 1:04:14.880 --> 1:04:19.920 as a point of comparison toa Jalen Hurts justin fields, 1:04:19.920 --> 1:04:23.440 Trevor Lawrence. So there's quarterbacks on the list, but not yours. 1:04:24.080 --> 1:04:27.600 And there are receivers on the list, Jalen Waddle, you know, 1:04:27.680 --> 1:04:32.200 guys like that, none of yours. And again, could you 1:04:32.240 --> 1:04:34.920 make an argument I think maybe Stevenson, you can make 1:04:34.920 --> 1:04:38.640 an argument that Romandre Stevenson could be on that list. 1:04:38.680 --> 1:04:41.080 But it's a very impressive list and even have some 1:04:41.520 --> 1:04:45.000 honorable mentions. Yeah, and you know, and even people like 1:04:45.080 --> 1:04:47.720 me and you you tease me and about you know, like, oh, 1:04:47.760 --> 1:04:50.440 I just believe that we can put a team together. 1:04:50.520 --> 1:04:52.680 That they're not that talented, but they all believe in 1:04:52.720 --> 1:04:54.520 each other and they love each other and they're gonna 1:04:54.520 --> 1:04:57.200 win because you still you still believe in Santa Claus. 1:04:57.400 --> 1:04:59.320 I get it, I do. I get it. You you 1:04:59.360 --> 1:05:02.480 still believe. But the Scott Pioli mantra that it's it's 1:05:02.480 --> 1:05:04.800 not about the best fifty three, it's the right fifty three, 1:05:05.000 --> 1:05:09.200 which only matters if you have an elite player at 1:05:09.200 --> 1:05:13.000 the most important spot. And I think, like I can 1:05:13.040 --> 1:05:16.240 at least fool myself into believing that if you're gonna 1:05:16.280 --> 1:05:18.080 tell me that this is the best coach team in 1:05:18.120 --> 1:05:20.040 the league and that they're gonna play like that, and 1:05:20.080 --> 1:05:23.480 all right, we're not talented, but we're not gonna penalties, 1:05:23.560 --> 1:05:26.320 We're gonna be tough, we're gonna have a good game plan. 1:05:26.520 --> 1:05:29.400 We're gonna throw twist side people. We're not going to 1:05:29.480 --> 1:05:31.440 fumble the snap on the biggest game of the year, 1:05:31.480 --> 1:05:34.040 on the on the third the third snap of the game, 1:05:34.440 --> 1:05:36.440 you know. So that for me, that's like, you know, 1:05:36.480 --> 1:05:39.600 and I say that, you know, kind of joking, but overall, like, 1:05:39.680 --> 1:05:42.560 if you're not a well coached team and you're beating 1:05:42.600 --> 1:05:45.280 yourself consistently, like what do you have, Like you don't 1:05:45.320 --> 1:05:48.720 have talent, you don't have coaching. You've lost now to 1:05:48.720 --> 1:05:51.080 the to this team who really for the last four 1:05:51.160 --> 1:05:53.920 years you should have been pretty much maniacally focused on 1:05:53.960 --> 1:05:56.640 how to figure out this team and this guy? What 1:05:56.720 --> 1:06:00.360 have you come up with? Three years they loaned you? 1:06:00.520 --> 1:06:02.520 And I'm not amis Alonzo Stag when it comes to 1:06:02.520 --> 1:06:04.200 breaking this stuff down. But I didn't see a whole 1:06:04.240 --> 1:06:08.760 lot different tonight in the way they attacked the Bill's offense. Um, 1:06:08.920 --> 1:06:12.439 And just to put a rap on that whole young 1:06:12.520 --> 1:06:16.480 player thing is, you know, just try to think in 1:06:16.520 --> 1:06:20.640 your in your mind, who will be here in two years? 1:06:23.360 --> 1:06:25.680 You know, it's hard to come up with, you know, 1:06:25.840 --> 1:06:29.800 you know Barmore, Marcus Jones, probably Jack Jones, uh Stevenson, 1:06:30.000 --> 1:06:34.480 Mac Jones. But like it's hard, you know, you compare 1:06:34.560 --> 1:06:37.520 that to like even the Jets, who I still say, 1:06:37.560 --> 1:06:40.240 I don't think he's that that good, but you know, 1:06:41.320 --> 1:06:43.800 and I heard Albert Brier talking about this on on 1:06:44.040 --> 1:06:49.160 was it on your show today? Yeah? Yeah, yeah with Hardy. 1:06:49.440 --> 1:06:52.000 I heard Albert Brier breaking down like the other teams 1:06:52.000 --> 1:06:53.720 in the division. Now, I think he was being a 1:06:53.760 --> 1:06:57.120 little unfair because I think two years, three years down 1:06:57.160 --> 1:06:59.200 the road, it's hard to know how many of these 1:06:59.200 --> 1:07:02.360 guys will still be around two But it's unquestionable that 1:07:02.400 --> 1:07:06.560 these teams in the division have more talented young cores 1:07:06.600 --> 1:07:09.480 than the Patriots do. I mean definitely on the Jets, 1:07:09.560 --> 1:07:12.600 you know, key spots, key spots too. And that's like 1:07:13.120 --> 1:07:15.000 I don't even care about Zach Wilson, you know, playing 1:07:15.040 --> 1:07:18.320 Mike White like I mean the Garrett Wilson Sauce Gardner. 1:07:18.360 --> 1:07:21.360 I mean, it's uh yeah, Patriots got a long road 1:07:21.360 --> 1:07:23.760 ahead of them. We gotta step cyber gonna come back. 1:07:23.800 --> 1:07:27.120 Take more calls and your emails. 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People were questioning the face mask calls. 1:10:28.520 --> 1:10:31.639 Yes there is somebody. I saw the complaining about everything 1:10:31.680 --> 1:10:36.559 live from our studios inside Galette Stadium. Here's Hardy right 1:10:36.600 --> 1:10:39.040 back to the phone's eight five five pats five hundred. 1:10:39.040 --> 1:10:42.840 Week go to Will in Hawaii. Will, thanks for calling 1:10:42.920 --> 1:10:46.320 in what you got for us? Hey, how you guys 1:10:46.400 --> 1:10:48.519 doing a good Let you notice jacked up as you 1:10:48.560 --> 1:10:52.840 were in the pregad brutal Um. I am not going 1:10:52.880 --> 1:10:56.120 to uh go as far as the caller did a 1:10:56.120 --> 1:10:58.000 few calls ago and say, you know, I'll give him 1:10:58.000 --> 1:11:00.439 blessed sweat and tears. But they definitely have my motions 1:11:00.479 --> 1:11:04.679 in a headlock. I am here to make a declaration, guy, 1:11:05.120 --> 1:11:11.840 a final declaration. I hope it's not of independence, not 1:11:15.479 --> 1:11:20.320 even a little chuckle party. Mac Jones is not the guy. 1:11:21.000 --> 1:11:23.439 Mac Jones is not the guy. And not only is 1:11:23.479 --> 1:11:25.639 he not the guy, but now he's not the guy 1:11:26.040 --> 1:11:30.439 and he's being insubordinate on the sideline. So that brings 1:11:30.520 --> 1:11:33.519 me to my second uh in in in in final 1:11:34.360 --> 1:11:37.599 I guess issue um, And I'm not here to argue 1:11:37.640 --> 1:11:39.320 with you guys because I argue with Patriots fan so 1:11:39.439 --> 1:11:42.680 I'm blewing the face around here. Who's better Zappi or 1:11:42.960 --> 1:11:45.120 or you know, I argue that all the time. But 1:11:45.320 --> 1:11:48.200 at this point, don't you think we should try something different? 1:11:48.680 --> 1:11:52.880 I mean, I mean obviously what we're doing is not working. Um, 1:11:53.040 --> 1:11:54.920 so I wanted to get you guys. You know, what 1:11:55.000 --> 1:11:58.280 do you say to Patriots fans like me that just say, look, 1:11:58.720 --> 1:12:01.479 we're not saying he's better, but I think he is. 1:12:01.960 --> 1:12:05.240 Let's just try something different. Okay, I'm starting a new 1:12:05.320 --> 1:12:08.400 movement hashtag start Bailey Zappy. I'm gonna try to get 1:12:08.400 --> 1:12:12.840 a rolling on Twitter. What do you guys think? I 1:12:12.960 --> 1:12:15.080 just think you're putting him in a terrible position. I mean, 1:12:15.160 --> 1:12:18.519 I don't know why you know you think Bailey's Appy 1:12:18.640 --> 1:12:20.760 is going to be successful or different? Like I just 1:12:20.880 --> 1:12:23.280 I think the problem starts at the top. And if 1:12:23.400 --> 1:12:25.280 Matt can't figure it out or they can't figure it 1:12:25.320 --> 1:12:27.080 out formac in a way that is at least I'm 1:12:27.120 --> 1:12:29.200 a productive I don't really have much confidence they're gonna 1:12:29.200 --> 1:12:31.920 be able to figure it out for Bailey's Appy either. Yeah, 1:12:32.040 --> 1:12:35.160 it's tough because okay, so you roll out Zappy and 1:12:35.280 --> 1:12:38.840 what if he stinks? Now you're like, okay, Mac, you 1:12:38.920 --> 1:12:40.760 can come back. And then you also have you know, 1:12:40.960 --> 1:12:43.120 Paul Sing, He's been talking about people and didn't like 1:12:43.200 --> 1:12:45.200 how it was handled. Now you're going back to Zappy, 1:12:45.320 --> 1:12:47.080 So those people are going to be even more pissed. 1:12:47.080 --> 1:12:49.400 And if we're talking about a locker room, that possibly 1:12:49.479 --> 1:12:52.439 could be fracturing that might be something that the only way, 1:12:53.520 --> 1:12:55.320 there's only two ways that I think you can go 1:12:55.400 --> 1:12:58.599 to Zappy. One is obvious that if Mac gets injured. 1:12:59.040 --> 1:13:00.600 But the only other way to me is if you 1:13:00.760 --> 1:13:03.479 decide that Mac Jones is not not my guy, right, 1:13:03.520 --> 1:13:05.599 and that you're done. Yeah, I'm done with Mac Jones 1:13:05.640 --> 1:13:08.439 because if you if you go away, Look, I mean 1:13:08.800 --> 1:13:10.560 there's a lot of strange things happen. Who would have 1:13:10.640 --> 1:13:13.920 ever thought that Jimmy Garoppolo would wind up back starting 1:13:14.040 --> 1:13:16.800 after the way he was treated over the last couple 1:13:16.840 --> 1:13:19.280 of years, So you never know. But if you go 1:13:19.400 --> 1:13:21.320 to Bailey Zappy because you say Mac, we just you 1:13:21.400 --> 1:13:23.280 know what we're gonna go. We're gonna go with Zappy here, 1:13:24.439 --> 1:13:27.439 you've lost him and you clearly don't think that he's 1:13:27.479 --> 1:13:32.360 the answer. So I just I find it awfully hard 1:13:32.400 --> 1:13:36.400 to believe they think Bailey Zappy gives them a better chance. Um, 1:13:36.600 --> 1:13:40.280 who knows. I'm not a football coachy. The string out 1:13:42.520 --> 1:13:44.640 hurt and it looks like he was like hobbling a 1:13:44.680 --> 1:13:47.320 little bit tonight. If he's hurt, that's different. But I 1:13:47.360 --> 1:13:50.960 don't know. But these types of situations have ruined coaches 1:13:51.000 --> 1:13:53.680 in the past. Yeah, now Bill has the advantage of 1:13:54.240 --> 1:13:57.840 not having to worry about that, but it almost it 1:13:57.960 --> 1:14:01.479 ruined him in Cleveland. You know. Well when he went 1:14:01.560 --> 1:14:04.720 with Testaverdi overs up, he ended up being proven right 1:14:04.760 --> 1:14:07.840 about that. Well, he didn't lose his job because he 1:14:07.880 --> 1:14:11.040 lost his job because they fell apart. I know, But 1:14:11.240 --> 1:14:14.200 like that was a tough decision. Those decisions are some 1:14:14.280 --> 1:14:17.360 of the toughest decisions a head coach can make, because 1:14:17.479 --> 1:14:20.200 the quarterback is just a very unique It's not like 1:14:20.400 --> 1:14:23.160 even a goalie in hockey, where you pull the goalie 1:14:23.160 --> 1:14:25.439 and you're bringing the other guy until he cools down, 1:14:25.479 --> 1:14:29.519 then you bring back the other it's quarterback is different. Well, 1:14:29.560 --> 1:14:31.799 I gotta say, I'm really interested to see what happens 1:14:31.880 --> 1:14:34.320 because you've got a team that's now gonna, you know, 1:14:34.520 --> 1:14:36.400 have a week of prep for Arizona. But then they're 1:14:36.400 --> 1:14:38.240 gonna go spend a week together, you know, and so 1:14:38.280 --> 1:14:40.040 they're gonna play a game on the road, they're gonna 1:14:40.040 --> 1:14:42.080 be kind of isolated. Then they're gonna play another game 1:14:42.120 --> 1:14:46.240 against Well, it's gonna say, it could be a bad thing. 1:14:46.400 --> 1:14:50.200 Usually I don't know, bonding together, I know, and right 1:14:50.240 --> 1:14:52.599 now it's it. It seems like, you know, go back 1:14:52.640 --> 1:14:55.120 to the Slater thing. It feels like is this are 1:14:55.120 --> 1:14:57.360 these guys gonna bond together or these last five games 1:14:57.439 --> 1:15:00.400 gonna be just a continued descent into darkness, which I 1:15:00.640 --> 1:15:03.680 don't totally rule out fifty three separate ubers. Yeah, and 1:15:03.960 --> 1:15:06.320 I will say, you know, I didn't. I didn't think 1:15:06.400 --> 1:15:08.920 tonight was a must win. But I think the two 1:15:09.000 --> 1:15:11.800 games upcoming are must wins. Those are the two games 1:15:11.840 --> 1:15:14.799 with losing records. That's the easy part of the schedule 1:15:14.920 --> 1:15:17.400 is Arizona in Vegas, two bad teams. But you need 1:15:17.439 --> 1:15:19.640 to basically you need to go form one right to 1:15:19.720 --> 1:15:22.800 make the playoffs correct. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you have 1:15:22.920 --> 1:15:24.720 to win these two games. They must win. I'll lose 1:15:24.760 --> 1:15:27.120 either one of them. I think it's game set matches, Yes, 1:15:27.320 --> 1:15:30.240 Dylan in Orlando, what's going on? Dylan? And then guys 1:15:30.280 --> 1:15:34.480 get injuries? Yep, Hey guys, maybe maybe, And foremost appreciate 1:15:34.600 --> 1:15:37.880 each of you. Christ MoMA firmly, pretty firmly disagree with 1:15:38.160 --> 1:15:41.439 Will on this one. For a reference, in Josh Allen's 1:15:41.479 --> 1:15:44.479 first two season, seventy eight point two passer rating, five 1:15:44.560 --> 1:15:48.360 thousand yards, thirty touchdown, twenty one interceptions, Mac Jones broken 1:15:48.400 --> 1:15:51.000 sneas in ninety two point five, passer rating thirty eight 1:15:51.120 --> 1:15:53.720 hundred twenty two, touchdown thirteen inch. Okay, can I just 1:15:54.080 --> 1:15:56.800 can I just stop you for a second. Yeah, when 1:15:56.800 --> 1:15:58.880 you watch Josh Allen and you watch Mac Jones, who 1:15:58.880 --> 1:16:01.439 do you think has better, better or skill? No? No, 1:16:02.040 --> 1:16:04.280 And that's gonna be my next point. I think johns 1:16:04.280 --> 1:16:06.680 sh Allen is a superior quarterback. But my thing is, 1:16:06.800 --> 1:16:09.960 you know, part of his development has come from the 1:16:10.120 --> 1:16:12.280 coaching staff that's been around him. And I hate to 1:16:12.360 --> 1:16:15.640 beat a dead horse. So my question really is, and 1:16:15.800 --> 1:16:17.439 I hate to go here because I've never been the 1:16:17.479 --> 1:16:20.360 type of person to pin Bill. I think, you know, 1:16:20.439 --> 1:16:22.479 when you have a traff record of success, you can 1:16:22.680 --> 1:16:25.400 mess up a few times. But when is he going 1:16:25.439 --> 1:16:28.680 to start taking the accountability for this mess? And I 1:16:28.720 --> 1:16:32.599 don't mean public accountability, I mean accountability in the form 1:16:32.720 --> 1:16:36.280 of change. You know, we're through thirteen weeks here and 1:16:36.400 --> 1:16:39.439 they've made zero progress on the offensive side of the ball. 1:16:39.479 --> 1:16:42.240 And I don't think the defense is as peachy as 1:16:42.439 --> 1:16:46.679 numbers suggest either. Anytime we've played a competent offense, we've 1:16:46.720 --> 1:16:49.960 seen a slow burned game. You know, time possession in 1:16:50.080 --> 1:16:52.240 favor of these a fair points on the ball down 1:16:52.320 --> 1:16:54.519 our throat, throw it over our head, et cetera. So 1:16:54.600 --> 1:16:57.599 I don't think that mac Jones is the problem. I'm 1:16:57.680 --> 1:17:00.600 curious to know when we think Bill Chick he's going 1:17:00.680 --> 1:17:04.200 to take accountability for the situation. Well, he said it's 1:17:04.240 --> 1:17:06.439 all on me, right, didn't he say that? Well said 1:17:06.479 --> 1:17:08.519 to blame him? And I agree with the caller. I 1:17:08.640 --> 1:17:10.640 just the point I was trying to make, and it 1:17:10.800 --> 1:17:14.760 wasn't taken about the coaching. Is mac Jones came into 1:17:14.800 --> 1:17:18.439 the league much more ready to play in the NFL 1:17:18.560 --> 1:17:21.400 than Josh Allen did. Josh Allen played at Wyoming, was 1:17:21.600 --> 1:17:24.760 wild and needed to be coached up and out of 1:17:24.840 --> 1:17:28.439 some of that wildness. But it was apparent and Fred 1:17:28.479 --> 1:17:30.519 and I would talk and we were talking about that 1:17:30.640 --> 1:17:33.200 game on a Saturday afternoon late in the year, I 1:17:33.280 --> 1:17:37.200 think in nineteen. Yeah, he didn't have a great game statistically, 1:17:37.760 --> 1:17:39.639 but some of the plays he made were like, Wow, 1:17:39.760 --> 1:17:41.559 if this guy can ever figure it out, this guy's 1:17:41.560 --> 1:17:44.760 gonna be dangerous. And he figured it out and now 1:17:44.840 --> 1:17:47.360 he's dangerous. Go it. Mac Jones doesn't have that a 1:17:47.479 --> 1:17:51.080 great receiver and he got Brian Dable, right, But mac 1:17:51.160 --> 1:17:55.479 Jones doesn't have that potential, like physically from a skill set. 1:17:56.360 --> 1:18:01.000 He has to play at a high level, you know, mentally, 1:18:01.720 --> 1:18:04.439 and then he needs to be lifted by great talent 1:18:04.520 --> 1:18:07.360 around him. And he has just so so talent around him. 1:18:07.360 --> 1:18:09.599 I mean, Josh Allen's a unicorn. I mean, I don't 1:18:09.600 --> 1:18:11.320 you know, nobody's like. That's why I don't want to 1:18:11.360 --> 1:18:14.040 see comparisons to his first two years. He came in 1:18:14.520 --> 1:18:17.280 the touchdown so far away with mac Wilson draped on 1:18:17.400 --> 1:18:19.600 him and he's got he's halfway out of bounds and 1:18:19.680 --> 1:18:22.680 he just rifles it back. That's a great example. So 1:18:23.120 --> 1:18:26.200 mac Jones a better rookie year than Peyton Manning. Are 1:18:26.240 --> 1:18:28.320 we what are we saying? What does that mean? But nothing? 1:18:28.439 --> 1:18:30.599 But but mac Jones had a play like that where 1:18:30.600 --> 1:18:32.720 he's rolling and rolling and rolling to the sideline and 1:18:32.800 --> 1:18:35.800 try to throw it late and what happened got picked well, 1:18:35.920 --> 1:18:40.519 didn't like. That's just a physical Henry should have came 1:18:40.560 --> 1:18:43.280 back to him. It's a physical skill set that he 1:18:43.439 --> 1:18:45.280 just doesn't possess it. And it doesn't make mac Jones 1:18:45.360 --> 1:18:49.240 a bad guy, because you're right, Josh Allen's a unicorn. Yeah. Uh, 1:18:49.520 --> 1:18:51.760 we're talking about what Bill said, what he did take 1:18:51.760 --> 1:18:54.679 accountability for. Let's find out. 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So that's some opportunities, 1:19:33.800 --> 1:19:38.080 but just um nothing in particular, just in general, not 1:19:38.280 --> 1:19:43.720 just not quite good enough in any area right area. Offensively, 1:19:44.680 --> 1:19:49.720 they're making plays in the kicking game. So um, it's 1:19:49.760 --> 1:19:55.360 about it's about the end of it. Bill, Buffalo's last 1:19:55.400 --> 1:19:58.920 possession about two minutes left, you have a timeout. What 1:19:59.120 --> 1:20:01.479 went into the decision and to not call it timeouts 1:20:01.800 --> 1:20:03.400 to try to get the ball back and let Buffalo 1:20:03.640 --> 1:20:09.960 letting the clock out there talking about on the nail downs. Yeah, 1:20:10.560 --> 1:20:11.920 I thought that was the best thing to do for 1:20:12.000 --> 1:20:16.680 our team. You know, we went the other way into 1:20:16.680 --> 1:20:19.160 Baltimore game and I lost Mac for three weeks. I mean, 1:20:19.160 --> 1:20:25.080 I really think that was worth it. Three to twelve. 1:20:25.160 --> 1:20:28.400 On third down offensively, it's been an area that has 1:20:28.520 --> 1:20:31.240 been a struggle all season. Well what do you see there? 1:20:31.360 --> 1:20:35.040 Why that's been such a struggle. Yeah, combination of things 1:20:37.200 --> 1:20:38.960 and then the two minute offense at the end of 1:20:39.000 --> 1:20:41.519 the second quarter. Were you okay with the way the 1:20:41.960 --> 1:20:47.160 timeouts were used in the management in that situation? Who 1:20:47.240 --> 1:20:50.240 came ashore on a third down costs us another You know, 1:20:50.360 --> 1:20:51.800 we didn't pick it up on third down, so we 1:20:51.920 --> 1:20:56.599 had to here's the time out there. So I mean 1:20:56.720 --> 1:20:58.200 in the end, we you know, should have had a 1:20:58.200 --> 1:21:00.040 field goal at the end of the half and we 1:21:00.120 --> 1:21:06.760 ended up not getting it. So, Bill, why do you 1:21:06.800 --> 1:21:08.640 think the offense is still struggling so much at this 1:21:08.680 --> 1:21:12.679 point of the season. Yeah, Oh, I'll just say tonight, 1:21:12.760 --> 1:21:14.000 you know, we just didn't, like I said, we just 1:21:14.000 --> 1:21:17.679 didn't do enough. You know, had some opportunities and weren't 1:21:17.680 --> 1:21:20.320 able to take advantage of him. You guys had a 1:21:20.400 --> 1:21:22.599 lot of the same players in place last year as 1:21:22.640 --> 1:21:24.080 you do this year, and the offense is a lot 1:21:24.120 --> 1:21:27.360 more efficient. Anything specific to change from last year to 1:21:27.400 --> 1:21:42.479 this year, I don't just got through with the game here, Bill, 1:21:42.520 --> 1:21:44.519 give him that he had done it in college. Were 1:21:44.560 --> 1:21:46.680 you always planning on at some point trying to use 1:21:46.800 --> 1:21:49.560 Marcus Jones that way? Or is it something specific this 1:21:49.640 --> 1:21:50.960 week that you thought that he might be able to 1:21:51.160 --> 1:21:55.640 give you guys a spark? Yeah, he's he's played on 1:21:55.720 --> 1:22:05.680 offense before. Very far right, Bill, Sorry by the door 1:22:05.720 --> 1:22:09.800 over here. Are there serious changes you guys have to 1:22:09.880 --> 1:22:12.320 make on third down? I think you're three for ten 1:22:12.400 --> 1:22:15.960 last week, three for twelve today. Yeah, it's a combination 1:22:16.000 --> 1:22:18.320 of things. So there's a lot of things we do better. 1:22:18.560 --> 1:22:20.080 Some of that's third down, some of that's first and 1:22:20.120 --> 1:22:25.200 second down. Did you feel like you couldn't be real 1:22:25.280 --> 1:22:27.960 aggressive on first and second down based on some of 1:22:28.040 --> 1:22:33.679 the stuff you guys had going on your offensive line? Oh, 1:22:33.760 --> 1:22:39.320 we were definitely working around some things there. Yeah, we 1:22:39.439 --> 1:22:44.960 just need to do a better job. Would you consider 1:22:45.080 --> 1:22:47.840 the struggles on offense more of a play calling issue 1:22:48.000 --> 1:22:52.479 or an execution issue? Yeah, well, we just need to 1:22:52.520 --> 1:23:02.720 do a better job overall. A right over here, Bill, 1:23:02.800 --> 1:23:05.400 on the Allen pass to Gabe Davis, the touchdown pass 1:23:05.520 --> 1:23:06.880 where it looked like he was maybe going to go 1:23:06.960 --> 1:23:10.280 out of bounds. Wilson was pursuing him on that. Did 1:23:10.360 --> 1:23:11.840 you think that he was out of bounds when he 1:23:11.880 --> 1:23:13.400 threw that? It looked like some guys had kind of 1:23:13.479 --> 1:23:19.400 stopped playing. I don't know what you saw. Yeah, I'm not. 1:23:19.520 --> 1:23:28.120 I don't know. I don't really see it. Bill. There's 1:23:28.120 --> 1:23:30.880 a sequence at the end of the first half second 1:23:30.960 --> 1:23:34.360 down and one and you guys ran it called sorry, 1:23:34.560 --> 1:23:48.800 I came in late. Apologize. Yeah, no worries. Bill. Was 1:23:48.880 --> 1:23:51.479 there any consideration to bumping Mike on one who out 1:23:51.520 --> 1:23:54.120 to right tackle condract dem got the start? It has 1:23:54.160 --> 1:23:55.880 been with you guys for about nine days. Was there 1:23:55.880 --> 1:23:58.479 any consideration to moving things around to get Mike in 1:23:58.560 --> 1:24:03.720 that spot and then moving someone else into that guard spot? Yeah, 1:24:03.760 --> 1:24:08.000 it's not always moving moving one and moving too. Moving 1:24:08.040 --> 1:24:12.320 two is always harder and moving one. Um, And when 1:24:12.360 --> 1:24:14.519 we looked at our options, felt like that was you know, 1:24:14.680 --> 1:24:16.040 I felt like we did the best thing we could do. 1:24:16.920 --> 1:24:18.600 If we thought moving Mike was out there, would have 1:24:18.640 --> 1:24:26.080 done that right, Bill. Did you feel conditioning was an 1:24:26.080 --> 1:24:28.560 issue at all? Defensively, they just were out there for 1:24:28.800 --> 1:24:32.599 I think almost forty minutes. I thought, actually we played 1:24:32.600 --> 1:24:40.439 pretty competitively. Andrew Kelling build a decision upon with twelve 1:24:40.439 --> 1:24:42.880 and a half minutes left around midfield on fourth down? 1:24:43.240 --> 1:24:47.960 What made punting the best for the team in that situation? Yeah, 1:24:48.360 --> 1:25:00.680 it's thoughts, you know, stay in the game, all right. 1:25:01.960 --> 1:25:04.519 Just did it feel like the Bills maybe had a 1:25:04.560 --> 1:25:06.280 beat on what you guys were trying to do on 1:25:06.400 --> 1:25:07.840 early down? It just felt like a lot of short 1:25:08.040 --> 1:25:12.479 passing screens into the flat. Did they get a jump 1:25:12.560 --> 1:25:17.080 on that? And do you think it's hard to keep 1:25:17.120 --> 1:25:21.800 players from getting frustrated against an offense like Buffalo um 1:25:22.520 --> 1:25:30.200 when you're not incredibly aggressive through the air? Uncle players, 1:25:30.240 --> 1:25:35.000 you don't know. You're sorry your offensive players, I don't know. 1:25:35.080 --> 1:25:42.000 You have to ask them. It's kind of a kind 1:25:42.000 --> 1:25:44.559 of a mic drop. You think conditioning was an issue 1:25:44.600 --> 1:25:47.320 on defense? Your defense was out there for forty minutes, 1:25:47.760 --> 1:25:51.919 and he said, I thought we were competitive defending that defense, 1:25:53.560 --> 1:25:57.120 defending that defense tough to defend. Why do you think 1:25:57.160 --> 1:26:00.120 you might be doing that? Oh? Well, I mean I 1:26:00.160 --> 1:26:01.879 can think of a couple of reasons, but I wouldn't 1:26:01.880 --> 1:26:05.080 want to speculate. I think. I mean, and again, I 1:26:05.120 --> 1:26:08.800 don't think the defense was horrible tonight. I think they competed. 1:26:08.920 --> 1:26:11.720 I thought they really made Buffalo earned their yards. It 1:26:11.800 --> 1:26:14.720 wasn't a lot of freebees. But I don't I just 1:26:15.280 --> 1:26:17.040 I have to stop short of saying, oh, great job 1:26:17.120 --> 1:26:19.680 by the defense only allowed twenty four points. I think 1:26:19.720 --> 1:26:21.840 we all watched the game and kind of felt like 1:26:21.920 --> 1:26:24.080 Buffalo could have named the score. And I know what 1:26:24.160 --> 1:26:26.639 you're inferring there two Paul, But I think he's probably 1:26:26.760 --> 1:26:29.600 just a protective and loyal to his friends who were 1:26:29.680 --> 1:26:31.840 running the offense. Right. Yeah, I thought I thought he 1:26:31.920 --> 1:26:35.120 side stepped a question earlier in the press conference about 1:26:35.600 --> 1:26:37.679 the differences between last year and this year. It felt 1:26:37.680 --> 1:26:40.519 like it was mostly the same personnel and more efficient 1:26:40.680 --> 1:26:43.759 last year. What's the issue? And to you a point, Freddy, 1:26:43.840 --> 1:26:45.960 he didn't answer that either. There's plenty of question and 1:26:46.640 --> 1:26:50.160 critique right now without even getting into nepotism or anything 1:26:50.240 --> 1:26:53.080 like that. You know, I'll get into nepotism. Like the 1:26:53.160 --> 1:26:55.400 fake punt. I mean, you know they well, you know, 1:26:55.479 --> 1:26:57.479 we did force a punt, but they faked it. So 1:26:57.800 --> 1:27:02.639 there is two years Ken d Borne quote, and they're born. 1:27:03.520 --> 1:27:05.600 I'm gonna make a sneaky prediction to make the end 1:27:05.600 --> 1:27:07.920 of the season. Not gonna make the end of the season. Yeah. Um. 1:27:08.400 --> 1:27:11.120 By the way, the first punt that was forced by 1:27:11.200 --> 1:27:14.360 the Patriots defense tonight, there was not a smattering of 1:27:14.920 --> 1:27:18.479 chuckles or any kind of sarcastic applause. I don't think 1:27:18.479 --> 1:27:20.880 the crowd was for that was a little bit, a 1:27:20.920 --> 1:27:24.160 little bit of a mock here, but but not you 1:27:24.320 --> 1:27:26.559 How could you tell from your lofty perch up there 1:27:26.600 --> 1:27:28.040 and not like I thought it was going to be 1:27:28.120 --> 1:27:30.240 to you a point with the serious folks. I just 1:27:30.479 --> 1:27:32.200 I don't I think the crowd would have done it. 1:27:32.680 --> 1:27:34.880 I don't think they were in the mood. Everybody, you 1:27:34.960 --> 1:27:39.320 know that, everybody underneath us. They got up. But it 1:27:39.520 --> 1:27:41.320 wasn't like I thought it was gonna be one of 1:27:41.360 --> 1:27:44.439 those you know, like when you get like seven penalties 1:27:44.479 --> 1:27:45.800 called against you in a row, and all of a 1:27:45.800 --> 1:27:48.960 sudden there's one called the other team, and everybody, Yeah, 1:27:49.360 --> 1:27:51.080 that's what I thought you were gonna ash. I think 1:27:51.080 --> 1:27:52.840 they still wanted to believe at that point, they still 1:27:52.880 --> 1:27:55.719 wanted to believe like this, But it wasn't. It wasn't 1:27:55.760 --> 1:27:59.080 like like usually you get a third down stop and 1:27:59.200 --> 1:28:02.439 the crowd goes wild. It wasn't any of that. Uh, 1:28:02.600 --> 1:28:06.360 let's go to Kyle and Charlotte, North Carolina. Kyle, Kyle 1:28:06.560 --> 1:28:10.160 on the how are you doing good? Hey? Ka Um, 1:28:10.520 --> 1:28:13.080 I just gotta say, who would have thought two summers ago, 1:28:13.280 --> 1:28:15.479 after spending one hundred and sixty million dollars in the 1:28:15.520 --> 1:28:18.280 off season that we would have these problems with the 1:28:18.360 --> 1:28:23.519 O line, H quarterback controversy, U wide receivers not getting open, 1:28:23.600 --> 1:28:25.840 going blazing on the routes, and then this Mac Jones 1:28:25.880 --> 1:28:27.679 thing that just can't bow with him saying the stuff 1:28:27.680 --> 1:28:31.679 on the sideline. Um. I know it's been a mess, 1:28:32.080 --> 1:28:37.719 but it's like it's hard to be optimistic in this situation, 1:28:38.120 --> 1:28:41.040 Like if we do any worse, we're not going to 1:28:41.080 --> 1:28:43.479 get a higher draft pick. If we've played too hard. 1:28:43.960 --> 1:28:47.320 I mean, the second round seems like the farthest will go. 1:28:47.640 --> 1:28:49.760 I hate to say it like that, but it just 1:28:49.840 --> 1:28:53.320 seems like it's been a constant like circle of just 1:28:53.439 --> 1:28:55.519 biting our own till well. I tell you what, Kyle, 1:28:55.600 --> 1:28:57.720 I don't I don't think you know, people like me 1:28:58.080 --> 1:29:00.679 maybe are going to be forced into push back against 1:29:00.680 --> 1:29:03.960 the optimism, like I was after the win over the Jets. 1:29:04.240 --> 1:29:06.040 You know, I felt like I had to, you know, 1:29:07.200 --> 1:29:10.000 just for my own sanity's sake. Like I didn't see 1:29:10.040 --> 1:29:12.040 all that much improvement. I didn't see all that much 1:29:12.120 --> 1:29:15.040 to take away from it. I'm not hearing so far tonight. 1:29:15.160 --> 1:29:17.880 I'm not seeing anything. We're not hearing from anybody taking 1:29:17.920 --> 1:29:21.519 away much positive from this effort tonight. There's just there's 1:29:21.600 --> 1:29:24.320 not a lot. There's there's not a lot to like. 1:29:24.439 --> 1:29:27.680 I don't mind beating the Jets ten three, right, I 1:29:27.760 --> 1:29:31.640 don't mind like winning different games differently, you know, and 1:29:31.880 --> 1:29:34.559 being able to do that. Like when we're in against 1:29:34.600 --> 1:29:37.439 a team like the Jets, we can win the slug fest. 1:29:37.680 --> 1:29:42.120 The problem is they can't win the games that against 1:29:42.160 --> 1:29:45.559 the teams, you know. I think that's a great point. Yeah, 1:29:45.680 --> 1:29:47.800 I wouldn't mind beating the Jets ten three if they 1:29:47.840 --> 1:29:50.120 could beat the Bills thirty four thirty one, right. Only 1:29:50.760 --> 1:29:52.519 the problem with beating the Jets ten three is that's 1:29:52.520 --> 1:29:55.720 the only way they can win, right. Um Austin in 1:29:55.920 --> 1:29:58.760 North Dakota joining us now on the Patriots postgame show. 1:29:58.840 --> 1:30:02.200 Hi Austin, Hey, guys. First of all, I just want 1:30:02.240 --> 1:30:07.160 to say thank you for taking my call. There's I 1:30:07.240 --> 1:30:11.479 guess where do we start? I mean to me, last weekend, 1:30:13.160 --> 1:30:17.479 Jonathan Jones really struggles against Justin Jefferson, and then I 1:30:17.520 --> 1:30:20.200 saw him out there again with him this week. Not 1:30:20.360 --> 1:30:22.799 only did he struggle in coverage, but he had another 1:30:22.880 --> 1:30:29.080 big penalty again tonight. Um. Another thing is is I 1:30:29.200 --> 1:30:31.439 feel like Kendrick Bourne should be getting a little bit 1:30:31.520 --> 1:30:34.800 more playing time considering our offenses has been struggling so bad, 1:30:34.920 --> 1:30:37.960 and it seems like we have guys, I mean, they 1:30:38.000 --> 1:30:41.040 can catch the ball, but they can't make anything happen 1:30:41.080 --> 1:30:43.800 after the catch. Like a game like tonight, you could 1:30:43.800 --> 1:30:46.320 add a guy like Born. I mean, he did it 1:30:46.439 --> 1:30:52.200 for you a lot. Last year, in my opinion, has 1:30:52.200 --> 1:30:55.840 been an absolute disappointment. I really thought that he was 1:30:55.920 --> 1:30:59.040 going to be a focal point of this offense. And 1:30:59.640 --> 1:31:02.280 I'm the last thing I really wanted to talk about 1:31:02.400 --> 1:31:06.160 is am I crazy for thinking that there needs to 1:31:06.240 --> 1:31:11.120 be a coaching change. I mean and my offensive coordinator. 1:31:11.720 --> 1:31:13.439 I mean, there has to be a change there. In 1:31:13.600 --> 1:31:16.799 my opinion, I'm not saying that he's been absolutely terrible 1:31:16.840 --> 1:31:21.479 this year. Offensive line hasn't done Mac any favors, And 1:31:21.880 --> 1:31:24.679 to be honest with you, I completely get where Mac 1:31:24.840 --> 1:31:27.880 was coming from tonight. I mean, there's no reason why 1:31:28.000 --> 1:31:31.040 Mac Jones should be running around in the battlefield looking 1:31:31.080 --> 1:31:35.040 like Patrick Mahomes try trying to, you know, extend plays, 1:31:35.479 --> 1:31:37.519 because that's not who he is. That's not who he's 1:31:37.560 --> 1:31:42.799 ever going to be. I It just it really sucks 1:31:42.920 --> 1:31:46.280 the position that we're in because I know the thing is, 1:31:46.520 --> 1:31:50.120 I feel like we're slowly becoming Denver with the things 1:31:50.160 --> 1:31:52.719 that are happening on the sideline now tonight with Mac, 1:31:54.000 --> 1:31:56.800 you know all that. Hopefully that ends up not being 1:31:57.680 --> 1:32:00.680 as dramatic as I think it's going to be. But 1:32:01.320 --> 1:32:04.160 I mean, if if there's already a locker room shift, 1:32:04.320 --> 1:32:08.120 I mean, that just creates more drama to a drama 1:32:08.200 --> 1:32:12.400 filled And you know, Bill has admitted it and players 1:32:12.439 --> 1:32:15.000 have admitted it. This is a tough place to play football. 1:32:15.520 --> 1:32:19.240 It's very demented, it's very demanding mentally, and you know 1:32:19.400 --> 1:32:23.479 these guys are wound tight. Yeah. Yeah, it's demanding and 1:32:23.840 --> 1:32:27.240 they're wound tight. And when things go bad, the tighter 1:32:27.280 --> 1:32:32.280 you're wound, you snap, you know, And that's what happens, 1:32:32.400 --> 1:32:35.439 and I think it works when you're winning, but like 1:32:36.360 --> 1:32:39.040 the way Bill runs a team, it's not good when 1:32:39.080 --> 1:32:40.840 you're losing. And what you're hearing a lot of is 1:32:40.880 --> 1:32:43.120 the stuff that Mike is alluding to with Kendrick Bourne, 1:32:43.160 --> 1:32:45.519 and I know that was where I think Mac was 1:32:45.600 --> 1:32:49.320 coming from, this desire to get the ball downfield, and 1:32:49.400 --> 1:32:51.559 they're very frustrated with a lot of the short stuff. 1:32:51.600 --> 1:32:53.720 And I think that the call is right because the 1:32:53.800 --> 1:32:55.519 short stuff is great, but they don't have a lot 1:32:55.560 --> 1:32:57.400 of guys that can do much with it short and 1:32:57.520 --> 1:32:59.720 make it a bigger chunk place. Yeah, have you've been reading, 1:33:00.240 --> 1:33:03.000 said the Daniels. But you know and and that, and 1:33:03.200 --> 1:33:05.840 like I I don't blame that. I want Mac to 1:33:06.000 --> 1:33:08.720 be upset. I just don't like the demonstrative stuff on 1:33:08.760 --> 1:33:11.519 the side. But he's very emotional, but you know, very 1:33:11.560 --> 1:33:13.720 emotion We say, you know, we don't have receivers that 1:33:13.760 --> 1:33:16.759 can do anything once they get the ball. Well, when's 1:33:16.800 --> 1:33:18.800 the less time like we've really seen a guy hit 1:33:18.920 --> 1:33:21.880 and stride. Yeah, you know, we saw that against Minnesota 1:33:21.920 --> 1:33:24.680 a couple of times. I'm not absolving you know of 1:33:25.320 --> 1:33:29.519 Myers was had a deep cross. It was a mid crosser. 1:33:30.240 --> 1:33:32.280 You hit him and stride and it's a thirty yard 1:33:32.360 --> 1:33:36.280 game and and he airport And Born seems like he's 1:33:36.360 --> 1:33:38.920 like letting it all out tonight. He had and I 1:33:39.040 --> 1:33:40.320 know the game was over at the time, but he 1:33:40.400 --> 1:33:42.840 had an opportunity to make a play. And as he 1:33:42.960 --> 1:33:44.680 was catching the ball, he would have been cutting right 1:33:44.720 --> 1:33:47.599 inside Xavier Rhodes, who I thought took a poor angle 1:33:47.640 --> 1:33:50.000 to the outside and he dropped it. Yeah, Like he's 1:33:50.040 --> 1:33:52.040 catching the ball, he's full of all what's right, And 1:33:52.160 --> 1:33:54.439 meanwhile every time they go to him now it's a mistake. 1:33:55.720 --> 1:33:58.439 Like I think Born is like what Fred is complaining 1:33:58.479 --> 1:34:01.559 about with Mac times ten, Like you know, he's barely 1:34:01.640 --> 1:34:04.360 even been a contributor. I mean, I've never seen a 1:34:04.479 --> 1:34:07.000 receiver or any player really in the Patriots, you know, 1:34:07.080 --> 1:34:09.120 say these things that you know he's saying right now, 1:34:09.200 --> 1:34:11.960 which is just, you know, it's not the Patriot way. 1:34:12.000 --> 1:34:14.880 I also am seeing NBC Sports Boston's postgame show. They're 1:34:14.880 --> 1:34:17.719 saying with Tommy Kern, feel like this is the lowest 1:34:17.760 --> 1:34:19.920 the Patriots have been in the post Brady era, And 1:34:20.400 --> 1:34:22.800 I would say I probably agree with that sentiment. 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Join the conversation by calling the a stick 1:36:11.920 --> 1:36:15.200 at hotline at eight five five Pats five hundred, or 1:36:15.280 --> 1:36:18.200 email the show at web radio at Patriots dot com. 1:36:18.400 --> 1:36:21.320 I agree with Mike Cole Hartley on PR strong about 1:36:21.360 --> 1:36:22.840 to me, that's that's the play of the game. You 1:36:22.920 --> 1:36:24.679 don't try to tell me he was good hearty. Live 1:36:24.760 --> 1:36:30.599 from our studios inside Galette Stadium. Here's Hardy. A couple 1:36:30.600 --> 1:36:33.200 of emails here, chatt in Atlanta is a time for 1:36:33.439 --> 1:36:35.840 Craft to clean house. I feel like if this were 1:36:35.880 --> 1:36:38.280 any other team in the NFL would be expecting them 1:36:38.640 --> 1:36:41.280 to fire everyone and start fresh. The only reason people 1:36:41.280 --> 1:36:45.000 won't say it about the Patriots it's because they're the Patriots. 1:36:46.600 --> 1:36:48.720 There is an element of this. I think certainly with 1:36:49.160 --> 1:36:51.559 Bill Belichick you kind of alluded to that earlier. Paul. 1:36:51.600 --> 1:36:53.800 It's like, well, you know, you're you know, you're talking 1:36:53.840 --> 1:36:58.040 about Bill and you're talking about a resume that gives 1:36:58.080 --> 1:36:59.920 you a certain amount of wiggle room. But think about 1:37:00.200 --> 1:37:04.000 this from an outsider perspective. What 'all was trying to do. 1:37:04.120 --> 1:37:06.240 If you're looking at this team from the outside, you're 1:37:07.720 --> 1:37:10.320 whoever the coach is, you know, whatever was, you know, 1:37:11.000 --> 1:37:13.599 whoever they are and whatever. And it's tough to find 1:37:13.640 --> 1:37:16.439 a comp for Belichick because there really isn't one. But 1:37:17.320 --> 1:37:19.439 couldn't you be saying, like, oh my god, they really 1:37:19.479 --> 1:37:21.719 got a clean house there. If you're if you're looking 1:37:21.760 --> 1:37:24.880 at the situation that you had a guy that didn't 1:37:24.880 --> 1:37:27.840 have his resume, you'd be asking those kinds of questions. 1:37:27.880 --> 1:37:30.200 You have a young quarterback who seems to be regressing, 1:37:31.280 --> 1:37:34.000 who usually gets playing for that, well, he's not developing 1:37:34.040 --> 1:37:37.120 the quarterback. He's the first round pick, but that's out 1:37:37.160 --> 1:37:40.040 of the question. He's not right. The thing the Paul 1:37:40.040 --> 1:37:41.960 always goes to is losing the locker room. When you 1:37:42.040 --> 1:37:43.720 lose the locker room, that's when all bets are off 1:37:43.800 --> 1:37:45.559 and you know, I'm not going to say that he's 1:37:45.600 --> 1:37:47.240 losing the locker room right now, but I think you're 1:37:47.240 --> 1:37:50.519 seeing a team that is very, very frustrated right now 1:37:51.080 --> 1:37:53.280 by how things are going. And understandably so, I've been 1:37:53.320 --> 1:37:55.479 watching them for four months whatever it's been, and I'm 1:37:55.520 --> 1:37:58.599 frustrated watching it because they just there's been no progress, 1:37:58.640 --> 1:38:01.120 which is to me the most surprising thing that you 1:38:01.160 --> 1:38:03.040 would think that after all this time they would have 1:38:03.080 --> 1:38:07.719 found something, some kind of consistency. But being Fresno, before 1:38:07.760 --> 1:38:11.639 we get to Mac Jones speed, what do you got? Um? Wow? 1:38:12.439 --> 1:38:16.320 That was that was pretty pitiful, disgraceful, offensive performance. But 1:38:17.160 --> 1:38:20.600 I was thinking about Fred's comments about Robert Kraft and 1:38:22.080 --> 1:38:26.280 just Max's apparent, you know, annoyance on the sideline the end. 1:38:26.880 --> 1:38:29.519 Maybe maybe it's like, um, it's kind of like we 1:38:29.600 --> 1:38:31.000 got to think about how we're going to carve up 1:38:31.080 --> 1:38:34.280 the blame pie. And I know I know my because 1:38:34.320 --> 1:38:39.080 I've cared about max performance probably above all else this season. 1:38:39.360 --> 1:38:42.120 I've been focusing on what he does well and what 1:38:42.200 --> 1:38:44.600 he does poorly. Like I focus on how long the 1:38:44.680 --> 1:38:47.200 balls takes to get the sideline into flat. I mean, 1:38:47.680 --> 1:38:51.400 like I focused on that and I probably discount a 1:38:51.479 --> 1:38:55.920 little bit with the the negative influence that patricious incompetence 1:38:56.360 --> 1:38:58.479 has on that. I think that anybody's trying to think 1:38:58.479 --> 1:39:00.200 about all this stuff probably needs to think of about 1:39:00.200 --> 1:39:03.519 it like somebody like a good businessman like Craftwood, which 1:39:03.600 --> 1:39:06.560 is that like, all of these things are mattering. So 1:39:08.360 --> 1:39:10.439 I don't know how you solve that. And it's also 1:39:10.600 --> 1:39:14.280 just I would imagine that in the Patriot with the 1:39:14.360 --> 1:39:16.479 Patriot way, where you're just supposed to be kind of 1:39:16.479 --> 1:39:20.040 like a cog and just go with the flow and 1:39:20.120 --> 1:39:23.200 do your job, I'd imagine like having a sense of 1:39:23.320 --> 1:39:27.880 personal frustration would be even more damaging than than maybe 1:39:27.920 --> 1:39:30.519 in other places which allowed more free expression. What do 1:39:30.520 --> 1:39:35.160 you guys think? Again, they're going to point to the 1:39:35.800 --> 1:39:37.479 history of the team and the way things been done 1:39:37.560 --> 1:39:39.720 here for a while, and you know, how much do 1:39:39.840 --> 1:39:42.280 you how much do you blow up even even as 1:39:42.360 --> 1:39:44.080 an owner, and like, how much do you look at 1:39:44.080 --> 1:39:46.960 and say how much this realistically needs to change? And 1:39:47.040 --> 1:39:50.040 if we're being even more honest looking back to last 1:39:50.080 --> 1:39:52.800 week against Minnesota, how many people are saying that this 1:39:52.960 --> 1:39:55.200 offense needs to be totally retooled. You know, it's just 1:39:55.400 --> 1:39:57.439 it's not it's not working at all on any level. 1:39:58.080 --> 1:40:00.479 You know. You know, this is the difference that we makes. 1:40:01.040 --> 1:40:03.880 And I think a lot of it has to do with, 1:40:04.240 --> 1:40:06.920 you know, who is coaching the offense right now and 1:40:07.040 --> 1:40:09.920 what that means going forward. But you know, when you 1:40:10.479 --> 1:40:13.240 spe asked that question, Curtain Chapel Hill says, you know, 1:40:13.320 --> 1:40:16.000 how many teams are in worse positions than the Patriots 1:40:16.120 --> 1:40:19.519 right now when you consider he says, no quarterback, no 1:40:19.720 --> 1:40:24.360 offensive line, no offensive weapons, no linebackers, no proven cornerbacks. Well, 1:40:25.000 --> 1:40:28.800 I heard a much different story literally one week ago, 1:40:29.000 --> 1:40:32.600 right you know, like, wow, dude, are you are you 1:40:32.760 --> 1:40:37.720 there as team in the league? Are there? There are 1:40:37.800 --> 1:40:39.720 middle of the six. They're in the middle of the 1:40:39.840 --> 1:40:42.960 league right now. This is where most teams live. You know, 1:40:43.080 --> 1:40:45.799 if you want to, if you wanted to be really negative, 1:40:46.600 --> 1:40:48.839 like like some of you know, some of these reactions 1:40:48.880 --> 1:40:51.040 have been, you could make an argument that they're you know, 1:40:51.200 --> 1:40:54.240 fortunate to be six and six. They haven't really lost 1:40:54.320 --> 1:40:57.280 a game that they quote unquote should have won, but 1:40:57.479 --> 1:40:59.680 they've won one or two that they easily could have. 1:41:00.000 --> 1:41:02.559 I have won the Chicago game. They got blown out 1:41:02.640 --> 1:41:04.240 for it. It wasn't even close, I know, but they 1:41:04.240 --> 1:41:07.640 should have won that. They shouldn't have been blown out. No, no, 1:41:07.960 --> 1:41:09.479 if you want to tell me, they have no business 1:41:09.560 --> 1:41:11.360 getting blown out by the Bear. But they had no 1:41:11.520 --> 1:41:14.320 chance to win that game. Like they had a chance 1:41:14.400 --> 1:41:16.720 to lose both Jets games. They had a chance to 1:41:16.800 --> 1:41:20.400 lose the Pittsburgh game. They haven't really won a game. 1:41:21.439 --> 1:41:23.640 I mean, they haven't really lost a game that they 1:41:23.760 --> 1:41:27.200 quote unquote should have won, right right, And I mean, 1:41:27.400 --> 1:41:30.240 but you know, just last year they were second place. 1:41:30.439 --> 1:41:33.160 The AFC's probably third place. They lost to Miami twice. 1:41:33.479 --> 1:41:35.519 This year they're probably gonna be fourth place, probably not 1:41:35.640 --> 1:41:38.080 make the playoffs. So you know what direction is it 1:41:38.200 --> 1:41:40.719 hadn't I think it's pretty clear. I think the team 1:41:40.840 --> 1:41:44.200 has been very similar to last year. The difference is 1:41:44.280 --> 1:41:47.439 that Miami and the Jets have gotten better and our 1:41:47.520 --> 1:41:51.320 offense has gone completely incompetent. Well, everybody's talking about Mac 1:41:51.400 --> 1:41:53.840 Jones and him being on the sideline and what he 1:41:53.920 --> 1:41:55.519 was yelling and who he was yelling at too. He 1:41:55.600 --> 1:41:58.120 has asked about it here relatively early on in his 1:41:58.240 --> 1:42:05.880 press conference. So let's hear from the quarterback. Mac. There's 1:42:05.920 --> 1:42:08.639 a video going around right now from the broadcast where 1:42:08.640 --> 1:42:11.439 it's showing you on the sidelines and showing you appear 1:42:11.479 --> 1:42:14.360 to be frustrated, where it appears that you're saying something 1:42:14.400 --> 1:42:17.760 along the lines of throw the FF and BALLU the 1:42:17.960 --> 1:42:21.320 F and something game sucks. Can you share with us 1:42:21.520 --> 1:42:23.720 what exactly is being said in that moment or what 1:42:23.880 --> 1:42:26.880 was frustrating in that time as opposed to letting internet 1:42:26.960 --> 1:42:30.160 lip readers take care of it. Yeah, obviously, just kind 1:42:30.200 --> 1:42:33.120 of let my emotions get to me. But you know, 1:42:33.160 --> 1:42:35.880 we're kind of playing from behind, and what I said 1:42:36.080 --> 1:42:39.800 was about throwing it deeper within the short game. You know, 1:42:40.000 --> 1:42:41.720 I got to execute that part better. But it's the 1:42:41.760 --> 1:42:44.160 short game that we kept going to, which is working. 1:42:44.280 --> 1:42:47.840 But I felt like we needed chunk plays and you know, 1:42:47.880 --> 1:42:50.599 I shouted that out to kind of get everyone going. 1:42:50.760 --> 1:42:54.639 And that's emotional, that's football. I'm passionate about this game, 1:42:54.680 --> 1:42:57.720 and obviously you don't want to get your emotions let 1:42:57.880 --> 1:43:01.360 you get the best of you. But yeah, I think 1:43:01.400 --> 1:43:04.280 that's that's pretty much it. Like it wasn't directed in anybody, 1:43:04.400 --> 1:43:07.679 just emotion coming out, and we kind of needed a spark. 1:43:07.800 --> 1:43:10.760 So when you're playing from behind against a really good 1:43:10.800 --> 1:43:13.120 team and a good offense, you need to go out 1:43:13.160 --> 1:43:15.120 there and make better plays, and that starts with me. 1:43:15.240 --> 1:43:19.559 So definitely wasn't good enough by me tonight. And all 1:43:19.600 --> 1:43:21.720 you can do is wash the tape and see where 1:43:21.760 --> 1:43:25.360 we can get better. But playing catchups hard. We didn't 1:43:25.360 --> 1:43:27.800 want to do that all game, and I didn't do 1:43:27.840 --> 1:43:31.320 a good enough job getting the head early and making 1:43:31.360 --> 1:43:33.800 it work. So a tough one, but hats off to 1:43:33.880 --> 1:43:38.640 the Bills for playing a good game. Mac. Obviously a 1:43:38.720 --> 1:43:41.439 sober atmosphere in the locker room you mentioned a little bit, 1:43:41.479 --> 1:43:44.320 But what's the frustration level like for this locker room now? 1:43:44.439 --> 1:43:48.320 Especial on the offense. Yeah, I think, Um, we didn't 1:43:48.360 --> 1:43:51.200 play our best game obviously, and we let our team down. 1:43:51.280 --> 1:43:54.200 And I think when we all play together, you know, 1:43:54.280 --> 1:43:57.160 the defense, special teams, and offense, when we finally get 1:43:57.160 --> 1:43:59.320 a chance to do that, I think the results will 1:43:59.360 --> 1:44:01.240 be there. So we didn't do that on offense. I 1:44:01.280 --> 1:44:03.800 thought the defense is great, special teams are great. So 1:44:05.160 --> 1:44:07.960 got you know, more games to be played. Season's not over, 1:44:08.080 --> 1:44:10.640 and I gotta watch the tape and see what we 1:44:10.640 --> 1:44:14.439 can do better and just have a positive attitude. You know, 1:44:14.479 --> 1:44:16.360 that's a good football team that we played against tonight, 1:44:16.400 --> 1:44:19.080 and we'll have to play against them again. So you 1:44:19.120 --> 1:44:22.920 gotta give credit where credits due, and yeah, just gotta 1:44:22.960 --> 1:44:27.679 work harder. Mac. There was a third in sixth play 1:44:27.760 --> 1:44:29.920 right before the half of your twenty nine yardline. Look 1:44:30.000 --> 1:44:31.439 like you were pressure. Do you end up throwing the 1:44:31.479 --> 1:44:34.559 ball out of bounds? Did you look down the field 1:44:34.640 --> 1:44:36.160 thinking maybe I can pick up the ball with my 1:44:36.280 --> 1:44:38.559 feet or did you or was the pressure just there 1:44:38.640 --> 1:44:41.320 that you know, no choice just throw it out of bounds. Yeah, 1:44:41.360 --> 1:44:43.720 I'm not sure. I think. Um, I think there was 1:44:43.720 --> 1:44:46.080 twenty two seconds. We didn't have any timeouts, and if 1:44:46.120 --> 1:44:48.720 you take a sack, not only do you lose yards, 1:44:48.760 --> 1:44:51.720 but you don't have a timeout. So you know, we 1:44:51.760 --> 1:44:53.600 would have to run the field goal team on with 1:44:53.720 --> 1:44:56.880 a sack, maybe out of range. It's a tough thing 1:44:56.960 --> 1:44:59.240 to do with twenty two seconds left. So I threw 1:44:59.280 --> 1:45:01.960 it away and play for the field goal. Um. I'll 1:45:01.960 --> 1:45:03.680 have to watch the tape and see if I could 1:45:03.720 --> 1:45:06.720 have done something differently. But that's something we focus on 1:45:06.800 --> 1:45:09.479 a lot here, is situational awareness, and that was the 1:45:09.600 --> 1:45:12.559 right play for that time. All right, Well, he did 1:45:12.680 --> 1:45:14.360 throw that one away. If it's the one I'm thinking of, 1:45:14.479 --> 1:45:16.519 I think it ended up about twelve rows up. It 1:45:16.640 --> 1:45:19.120 was a good play. Yeah, Actually I'm totally with back 1:45:19.200 --> 1:45:23.280 on that. Yeah. Yeah, and look on the bad List tonight, 1:45:23.600 --> 1:45:25.920 Nick Folk needs to make that kick. Yeah, I mean, 1:45:26.200 --> 1:45:27.680 I'm glad you brought that up. I thought you were 1:45:27.680 --> 1:45:30.800 avoiding it. I wasn't avoiding it. And I look, even 1:45:32.000 --> 1:45:35.240 the tired leg, even with the tired leg, and even 1:45:35.280 --> 1:45:38.760 in the you know, the the hurricane force wins, you know, 1:45:38.920 --> 1:45:41.320 against the Jets. No, he needed to make, but at 1:45:41.400 --> 1:45:43.040 least one of the ones that he missed there. It's 1:45:43.360 --> 1:45:45.960 so you can see he's not going to be able 1:45:46.040 --> 1:45:48.599 to get the first down. And if he does get 1:45:48.640 --> 1:45:51.080 the first down, he's watching it as he comes out here, 1:45:52.080 --> 1:45:54.360 he has a guy chasing him, and there's a guy 1:45:54.520 --> 1:45:56.719 right there for the Bills. Okay, so if he gets 1:45:56.760 --> 1:45:59.000 the first down, he's gonna have to cut inside the 1:45:59.160 --> 1:46:01.640 half ends. They're not getting the field goal unit on 1:46:01.720 --> 1:46:04.920 the field. So I thought, did he handled that play 1:46:05.360 --> 1:46:08.479 really well? And I would say contrast that to last 1:46:08.520 --> 1:46:12.200 week in Minnesota, right when he had a brain cramp 1:46:12.280 --> 1:46:14.280 and took a sack in a situation where you can't. 1:46:15.439 --> 1:46:18.000 Oddly I feel a tiny bit better after listening to 1:46:18.120 --> 1:46:20.320 him the way he answered that first question, and he said, 1:46:20.600 --> 1:46:24.559 you know, what he said essentially is right. They weren't 1:46:24.880 --> 1:46:27.320 picked to win this game by most people. That is 1:46:27.439 --> 1:46:29.800 a good football team that they played tonight. This is 1:46:29.840 --> 1:46:32.040 not one of the wins that I know that I 1:46:32.200 --> 1:46:34.439 had circled as a game that they had to win 1:46:34.560 --> 1:46:37.280 down the stretch. Here, Um, and there's six and six. 1:46:37.800 --> 1:46:40.000 You're a middle of the pack football team right now. 1:46:40.360 --> 1:46:43.160 There are games left to be played. But yeah, you 1:46:43.320 --> 1:46:46.040 ended up losing a game tonight that I thought you 1:46:46.120 --> 1:46:49.320 were going to lose. So trying to keep things in perspective, 1:46:49.760 --> 1:46:51.880 those are my final thoughts, Fred, What are your final 1:46:51.960 --> 1:46:56.519 thoughts from the game? Is it? Were you not ready? 1:46:56.640 --> 1:46:58.760 I'll come back to you, dude, What are your final 1:46:58.840 --> 1:47:01.200 thoughts on the game tonight? H more of the same. 1:47:01.439 --> 1:47:03.639 This is who the twenty twenty two Patriots are. It's 1:47:04.080 --> 1:47:07.400 it's frustrating and unfortunate. You put in all this time 1:47:07.439 --> 1:47:08.800 and you know, get to this point you come to 1:47:08.840 --> 1:47:10.840 the realization that that's what it is. We'll see what 1:47:10.880 --> 1:47:12.720 they have over these last five games. If they pack 1:47:12.760 --> 1:47:15.519 it in and totally give up, or if they you know, 1:47:15.680 --> 1:47:18.000 fight a little bit and and make it interesting. But 1:47:18.439 --> 1:47:21.880 I think this pretty much sealed their fate for the season. Well, 1:47:22.439 --> 1:47:24.840 I couldn't agree more with Mike. I think meet the 1:47:24.920 --> 1:47:27.840 twenty twenty two Patriots same as the twenty twenty one Patriots, 1:47:27.920 --> 1:47:31.400 just not quite good enough against quality competition. And to 1:47:31.520 --> 1:47:34.080 Fred's point about the ten three game, that there's one 1:47:34.160 --> 1:47:37.960 pattern of a game that they've displayed that they can win, 1:47:38.040 --> 1:47:41.080 and that's get a lead, make the other team chase 1:47:41.400 --> 1:47:45.719 and keep it, you know, somewhat low scoring, and once 1:47:45.760 --> 1:47:48.080 it gets out out of hand, once you get down 1:47:48.160 --> 1:47:51.280 by two scores. I felt like the entire because I 1:47:51.320 --> 1:47:53.479 thought there was I mean, but there was some juice 1:47:53.520 --> 1:47:56.120 in the stadium, snite and they went down seventeen seven 1:47:56.439 --> 1:47:57.960 in the game, I may as well have been over 1:47:58.040 --> 1:47:59.559 the way you kind of laid it out though. They 1:48:00.040 --> 1:48:02.719 to have a lead and it was a low scoring 1:48:02.920 --> 1:48:05.920 game for the most part time, but they were chasing 1:48:06.000 --> 1:48:08.760 all night, like they had they had lead early. They 1:48:08.840 --> 1:48:11.120 never had the ball in the lead. It's my point, 1:48:11.200 --> 1:48:13.320 like they never had the ball in the lead. They 1:48:13.360 --> 1:48:15.360 got up seven three, they didn't have the ball after 1:48:15.479 --> 1:48:19.080 seven three, the Bills scored first, the Patriots matched it, 1:48:19.640 --> 1:48:21.599 and then the Patriots, I mean the Bill scored again, 1:48:21.720 --> 1:48:24.599 and that was game. That was a game over man. 1:48:24.880 --> 1:48:27.200 So there's only one way they have of winning, and 1:48:27.360 --> 1:48:29.519 that's getting a lead and making the other team chase 1:48:29.560 --> 1:48:32.120 all night. A low scoring game. There were a lot 1:48:32.160 --> 1:48:34.519 of things obviously that bothered me about this game, but 1:48:34.800 --> 1:48:37.479 none rattled me more than Bill coming out with that cloak. 1:48:40.240 --> 1:48:42.479 I had never seen that before and I never want 1:48:42.520 --> 1:48:45.120 to see it again. Yeah, that's that's kind doesn't make 1:48:45.160 --> 1:48:47.320 it into the hoodie blog. Can't wear that? I think 1:48:47.360 --> 1:48:49.360 I think I'm gonna make a special occasion for it 1:48:49.479 --> 1:48:52.000 because I feel like it's so unique and this game 1:48:52.120 --> 1:48:55.400 was such a sah sandwich. You can't wear those types 1:48:55.400 --> 1:48:57.560 of cloaks if you're not if you don't have the 1:48:57.720 --> 1:49:01.000 black boot cleat, you can't have a powder blue mic 1:49:01.160 --> 1:49:04.280 caused my cleat. Yeah, and if you want to know 1:49:04.479 --> 1:49:07.960 what's work that different attire was, you have to subscribe 1:49:08.040 --> 1:49:11.519 to Mike Juso dot com because that's behind the paywall. Yeah, 1:49:11.920 --> 1:49:15.600 a halftime change, halftime attire is behind it. I'll do 1:49:15.680 --> 1:49:18.280 a video private video halftime it's from a Patreon just 1:49:18.360 --> 1:49:20.720 give just give that away. All of a sudden, we 1:49:20.800 --> 1:49:25.559 were in the NFC North Plan at Metropolitics in the fifties. 1:49:25.720 --> 1:49:28.360 You know, I was waiting for some guy to come 1:49:28.400 --> 1:49:31.479 out of it, like Jabrol Peppers came onto the field 1:49:31.520 --> 1:49:34.200 with it on at one point tonight and he like 1:49:34.360 --> 1:49:35.960 threw it off. It was like on the field of 1:49:36.000 --> 1:49:38.519 place I wanted to go and get it. Jab Yeah, well, 1:49:38.680 --> 1:49:43.280 let's Peppers. If we can't agree to find any optimism 1:49:43.560 --> 1:49:46.679 at all, can we at least focusing on the fact 1:49:46.760 --> 1:49:49.760 that we as a as a show. I had the 1:49:49.800 --> 1:49:54.280 weekend off and technically next weekend off too. Yeah, sure, 1:49:54.479 --> 1:49:57.560 all right Monday they're going to be in Arizona. Yeah, so, 1:49:58.000 --> 1:50:02.640 um Monday, a week from Monday, I should say the 1:50:02.760 --> 1:50:06.200 game in Arizona and then we'll have that Vegas game 1:50:06.320 --> 1:50:09.960 that Mike could get flexed all right in play At 1:50:10.000 --> 1:50:13.280 this point people are saying about flexing, and somebody said, 1:50:13.360 --> 1:50:18.519 can they get flexed into next season? I'm not dealing 1:50:18.560 --> 1:50:21.519 with adversity. Well, but for everybody involved in the show tonight, 1:50:21.600 --> 1:50:23.840 thank you so much for helping us put together. Thank 1:50:23.840 --> 1:50:25.360 you all the call s a we didn't get to 1:50:25.560 --> 1:50:27.800 a lot of the emails tonight. There's a lot of them, 1:50:27.960 --> 1:50:30.080 but a lot of us are saying the same things 1:50:30.800 --> 1:50:34.160 after the Patriots lose. I will say I said it 1:50:34.160 --> 1:50:37.240 at the beginning. I'll say it again now unceremoniously to 1:50:37.360 --> 1:50:40.439 the Bills tonight at Gilette Stadium. Your final score for 1:50:40.520 --> 1:50:46.120 the final time, Patriots ten Bills twenty four. That's for you, Paul. 1:50:46.680 --> 1:50:50.200 Thank you for listening and watching. Thank you for downloading 1:50:50.280 --> 1:50:54.000 this podcast. Subscribe on Apple, Google Play, and everywhere else 1:50:54.040 --> 1:50:56.920 you listen. Like the show, please rate and review us. 1:50:57.240 --> 1:50:59.720 Listener comments and ratings help keep us high in the 1:50:59.760 --> 1:51:03.080 bocast rankings so new listeners can find us. Be sure 1:51:03.120 --> 1:51:07.120 to Checkpatriots dot com for more news and more podcasts.