1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome Hour number two Clay Travis buck 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. We are joined now by the Governor of Arkansas, 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who recently traveled to South Florida to 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: endorse President Trump for another term in office. 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: She is doing very well as the governor. 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: Of the great state of Arkansaw And Sarah, Governor Sanders, 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what we should call you here, I'll 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: call you governor. I guess that's fun, pretty cool. What 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: makes you think Trump is the best choice to be 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: the next president of the United States? 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: Well, happy to answer that question. And first you can 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: call me Sarah, you can call me governor. I've been 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: called so much worse than anything that is within that ballpark. 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 3: I'm happy to answer. 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's really simple and it's really clear. 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: I mean, this is shaping up to be a matchup 19 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: between Biden and Trump. You have two people who have 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: been president who have very distinct, very different records, and 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: one is a record of success where we had secure borders, 22 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: our economy was strong, our allies actually respected us, our 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: enemies feared US, and on the other side, under President Biden, 24 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: you have a complete and total record of failure. We 25 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: have wide open borders, we have you know, the disastrous 26 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: withdrawal from Afghanistan, we have Ukraine, we have what's happening 27 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 3: in the Middle East, we have out of control inflation, 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: every you know, energy dependence is something that is big 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 3: for our state and for our country, and everything Biden 30 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: has touched, he has screwed up, which is the polar 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: opposite of when Donald Trump is in office. Our country 32 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: was good and strong, and you have very clear contrast 33 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: between these two candidates. And it's why I'm happy and 34 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: to support President Trump, and I know he will be 35 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,919 Speaker 3: able to do a great job, just like he's proven 36 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: he's already been capable of in the past. 37 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 4: You know how this goes, Sarah, it's buck. Thanks for 38 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 4: being here. But we had someone call in recently who 39 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 4: was absolutely convinced that we were missing something that was 40 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 4: politically obvious, at least to this one caller, which is 41 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 4: that you were going to be Trump's VP if Trump 42 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 4: in fact is the nominee, and well it's a nominee. 43 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: That's as far as it would have to go for 44 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: that would. 45 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 4: You consider that and or another role again at a 46 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 4: Trump administration, or you set on being the governor of 47 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 4: the great state of Arkansas. 48 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: Look, I've done my time in Washington. I absolutely love 49 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 3: being home. I think I have one of the best 50 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 3: jobs in the world being governor of Arkansas, and I'm 51 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: really happy here and I can just continue trying to 52 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 3: do a good job for the people in my state. 53 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you about what you're doing in 54 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 4: your state here that you tweeted out you're the first 55 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 4: governor to kick China off our farmland, and Arkansas just 56 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 4: received a check for two hundred and eighty thousand dollars 57 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 4: from the CCP owned company that we kicked out to 58 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 4: pay the fine for violating state law. Tell us about 59 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 4: what happened here and how concerned should people be about 60 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 4: this buying up of US farmland in states like Arkansas. Well, 61 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 4: not anymore, but by the Chinese Communist Party. 62 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: Well, I think people should be very concerned about the 63 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: fact that we have a known bad actor that is 64 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: buying up land. Look, if they were coming here and 65 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: they wanted to be great partners on the global stage 66 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: and really help America continue to be successful, I'm all 67 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 3: for that, but that is very clearly not their intention 68 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: and not their goal, and we don't want them in 69 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: our backyard. So we passed the law earlier this year 70 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: making it illegal for a company that is majority owned 71 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: and tied to the Chinese Communist Party that they can't 72 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: operate and they can't own land here in the state 73 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: of Arkansas. We did an investigation determined there was a 74 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: company that had just under two hundred acres here in 75 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: the state, a seed technology company. Agriculture is extremely important 76 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: to our state. It's our number one industry. It's also 77 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 3: a big national security issue. If we can't protect our 78 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: agriculture technology, I think that's a big problem for our country. 79 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 3: It's a place we know that the Chinese are trying 80 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: to come in and attack us from. And so we 81 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 3: kicked him out. We said you can't operate it in 82 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: our state. And not only that, we're going to find 83 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: you for breaking the law because you did it knowingly. 84 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: And so we got to check for two hundred and 85 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: eighty thousand dollars and we are moving them out of Arkansas. 86 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: Good for you. Sarah Huckeby Sanders, Governor of Arkansas. With 87 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: US now you've endorsed Trump, you spent a lot of 88 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: time in the White House. What would you say to 89 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's critics who say he doesn't have the temperament 90 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: to be president of the United States. 91 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: You know, I think that one of the things that 92 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 3: people love about Donald Trump, as he does tell it 93 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: like it is. I don't think people are looking for, 94 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: you know, a guy that's just going to shake hands 95 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 3: and hug the Chinese, meaning somebody who can stand up 96 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 3: to him. And that's exactly what you're going to get 97 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 3: with Donald Trump is somebody who tells you where he is, 98 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 3: maybe more often than you want, but he gets things done. 99 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 3: And it's hard to argue with his record of success 100 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 3: and his ability to enact conservative principles across all levels 101 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 3: of government. And you know, I got a chance to 102 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 3: sometimes see that that softer side that he doesn't show 103 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: very often. But he's somebody who loves the country. He 104 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: cares about the people of our country and wants to 105 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 3: see I think every person be successful. And when I 106 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: was under just relentless attack from the left, it was 107 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 3: President Trump who defended me, who empowered me and supported 108 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 3: me to do my job. And I always love that 109 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 3: Democrats try to own that they're a party of women 110 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 3: when they can't even tell you what a woman is 111 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: much less defend those who are out there on the 112 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 3: national stage as I was. And it was Donald Trump 113 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: who did that. And another one of the reasons I'm 114 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: proud to support him. 115 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: You know, one thing we continue to see. 116 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: We're speaking to Sarah hockeby Standers, governor of Arkansas, governor 117 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: also known as Sarah. 118 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,679 Speaker 2: It was because we've known you for a while. 119 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 4: You have a red state there that you're running, and 120 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 4: we just saw in California that they were able to 121 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 4: clean up San Francisco when you know, actual communists showed 122 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 4: up for a meeting with Biden. But they had to 123 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 4: do that because the Blue states, major blue states are 124 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 4: in a state of decay, New York and California, high taxes, 125 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 4: high crime, government dysfunction. A lot of people have had enough. 126 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 4: There's been a lot of movement. We often talk about Florida, Texas, 127 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 4: Tennessee as the states that get the most Blue state refugees, 128 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 4: if you will, How is Arkansas stacking up in that 129 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 4: and how are you going to try to be more 130 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 4: a part of that migration of capital investment and just Americans. 131 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, right now, our state is booming and 132 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: we're seeing a massive influx of people coming in, largely 133 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: coming from either the West Coast, which you're seeing a 134 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 3: lot of migration from. We've had over thirty a little 135 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: over thirty thousand people move into our state just this 136 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 3: year alone, a large portion of that from the state 137 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: of California. People are sick and tired of an out 138 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: of control, top heavy government that tries to dictate every 139 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: single part of their life. I think one of the 140 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: saddest things about what's happened this week where they cleaned 141 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: up the streets in San Francisco, is they've shown that 142 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: they're capable of doing it. They're just choosing not to 143 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: every other day outside of this week. And in a 144 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: state like Arkansas, not only are we making our safe, 145 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 3: our streets safer cleaner, we're making our schools better. And 146 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 3: we're doing that not for the Chinese, but for Americans, 147 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: for our camp because we want to see our people 148 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 3: succeed and we want to see them live in communities 149 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: that are thriving and doing well. And I think that 150 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: other people are seeing that too, and that's why they're 151 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: moving out of places like California and coming to red 152 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: states like Arkansas and some of those other neighbors of ours. 153 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: You are the White House Press secretary. Carie Jean Pierre 154 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: is now the White House Press Secretary. How would you 155 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: assess her performance? 156 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 3: Well, I'm always careful because I think it's one of 157 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 3: the hardest jobs there is. But the difference is I 158 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 3: actually had a good story to tell. We had good 159 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 3: things happening the president. Under President Trump, our country was strong, 160 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: our economy was strong, we were safer, we were more secure, 161 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 3: we were prosperous, So I had good things to talk about. 162 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 3: I frankly feel really sorry for her. One I don't 163 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: think she is spectacular at her job, but also she 164 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: doesn't have anything good to go out there and talk 165 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 3: about and sell, and that makes that difficult job even 166 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: harder to do and do well, and so she's got 167 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 3: an uphill battle. I certainly don't envy her, and I'm 168 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: glad that I got to take on that role for 169 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 3: the president that I did. 170 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 4: And what do you think should be the president? I'm 171 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 4: sorry it should be the Republican nominees focus in this 172 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 4: presidential race, And if you were to messaging, was what 173 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 4: you did in the White House, right obviously you still 174 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 4: do it now is governor of Arkansas. 175 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: But what do you think should be. 176 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 4: The primary driver, at least with the pieces on the 177 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 4: chessboard as they are right now. 178 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that you know, the contrast 179 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 3: between the two candidates, between Biden and Trump, again, you've 180 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: got a record of success versus a record of failure, 181 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: somebody who governed from a position of strength versus a 182 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 3: position of weakness that we see from President Biden every 183 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: single day. I think focusing on the economy, the safety 184 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 3: and security of our country, those are things that are 185 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 3: always top of mind in every election, and the contrast 186 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 3: on those killer issues are really strong for Republicans. Under 187 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: Republican leadership, we had a booming economy, we had a 188 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: secure border, we didn't have a war popping up in 189 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: a different part of the globe every single day like 190 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 3: we're seeing in this administration. And so I think those 191 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: are the places that we can lean into. But I 192 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: think when you really get to the core of it 193 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 3: and the difference of Republicans versus Democrats, to me, that 194 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 3: breakdown is really simple. When we ask people do you 195 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 3: want to make decisions about how to raise your family, 196 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 3: about how to engage in your community, how to run 197 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 3: your business, or do you want the government to do it? 198 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 3: If you want to do it yourself, you're a Republican. 199 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 3: If you want the government to make those decisions for 200 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 3: you how you raise your kids and what you do 201 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 3: in your business, then you're a Democrat. And when you 202 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: put it in those simple terms, I think it gets 203 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 3: real easy, and it's really hard to find a lot 204 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 3: of people out there who would prefer the government telling 205 00:10:58,600 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: them how to run their life. 206 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 4: Sarah, you know, you said you know Trump Biden. Obviously 207 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: you've endorsed Trump. You think Trump is the guy, you 208 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 4: work for President Trump. How confident are you it is 209 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 4: going to be Joe Biden. It's a topic a regular 210 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 4: topic of discussion on the show. 211 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I'm hopeful, frankly that it is, 212 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 3: because I think he's such a weak and terrible candidate 213 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 3: that that helps Republicans and certainly put President Trump in 214 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: a better position to win next November. So I'm hopeful 215 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: that he remains their guy and their nominee. Whether or 216 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 3: not he does. I've never been one to pretend that 217 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 3: I can understand democratic thinking. So I will leave that 218 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 3: to them to figure out their process and just continue 219 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 3: focusing on how we continue to build a strong coalition 220 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: of conservative Republicans to propel President Trump across the finish line. 221 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: Thanks so much and congratulations on how things are going 222 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: as Governor, and we look forward to talking to you again. 223 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Thanks so much for having me on. At some point, 224 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: you guys need to come down to dark and Saw 225 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: and visit us in person. 226 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 4: No doubt, only if I can see my beloved Razorbacks. 227 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: Hey, there you go. You're learning college football a little bit. 228 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: Although it's been a rough season for Sarah's Razorbacks right now. 229 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 3: It's been a rough season, but you know, we're always 230 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: optimistic around here. But no matter how bad the season is, 231 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: we'll still call the Hogs and I'll be happy to 232 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: teach you how to do that when you get here. 233 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 4: Alrighty, fantastic, Thanks so much, Governor Sarah Sanders, Thanks so much. 234 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 4: Appreciate you being with us well. Support US funded resources 235 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 4: in oil and gas assets. 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We'll try to get some more of that 256 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 4: in the third hour, but thank you for sending him in. 257 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 4: And if you aren't a Clayan Buck vip, please consider it. 258 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 4: Clayanbuck dot Com supports us here on the show, the 259 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 4: whole team, everything we do, and you get some cool 260 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 4: stuff like access to the email inbox. 261 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: All right. 262 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 4: We talked yesterday about the Kevin McCarthy, the alleged elbow 263 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 4: against into Congressman Burkett's uh, did you say kidney area? 264 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 4: Very specific? Yes, I think that's what he said, a 265 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 4: kidney shot. 266 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: Which makes it. 267 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 4: You know, it's one thing to elbow somebody when they're 268 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 4: not looking, but I mean elbow somebody with a kidney 269 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 4: shot feels particularly across the line, you know, it feel 270 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 4: feels like that's not supposed to happen. To be fair, 271 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 4: Kevin McCarthy is now vehemently denying. The former Speaker of 272 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: the House is saying this flatly did not happen. 273 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: This is cut to play it. 274 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 5: Not elbom. I would not hit him in a kidney 275 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 5: At five, you're all down there, right, not a very 276 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 5: big hallway, so I'm walking out. You could talk to 277 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 5: Bruce Westman because I actually call him after you guys 278 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 5: at forty seven said did I hit somebody? 279 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: Bruce Westman and I walk it out. 280 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 5: I guess the reporter was interviewing Burtitte or somebody. I 281 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 5: guess our shoulder shit because Britete runs up to me answer. 282 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 5: I didn't know what he was talking about, so of 283 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 5: course asked me. I did not run and hit the guy. 284 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 5: I did not kidney on trum. I did not shoot 285 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 5: anythings like that. 286 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: He didn't shot. 287 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 5: No, we're walking through it. You were at eighty five, right, 288 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 5: you guys line up along the way there. It was 289 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 5: Bruce Western my walking out. He must have been an 290 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 5: integous but I didn't know his him or something. I 291 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 5: guess albow as I walked by. I didn't touch anybody. 292 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: Look, I mean, I don't want to cast dispersions here. 293 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: This feels very grade school. 294 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 4: Okay, this is the former Speaker of the House that 295 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 4: is talking in that in that clip, the former third 296 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 4: in line for the presidency. So, and we had Congress 297 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 4: and Burkett on yesterday. He said absolutely no question that 298 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 4: this was intentional. It strikes me as I mean, like 299 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 4: a little hard to believe that a member of Congress 300 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 4: would do this, you know, in this way. But then again, 301 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 4: we did have a senator basically say he wanted to 302 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 4: throw down with some union teamster guy in the Senate. 303 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: So things are getting a little crazy. 304 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: These what if they had actually gotten in a fight 305 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: in the Senate, Like isn't it the. 306 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 4: Taiwanese Parliament where they're like they're a video of people 307 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 4: throwing throwing like high kicks at each other. 308 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, yeah it's gone now. That went viral, 309 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: and we talked about historically there have been fights. I mean, 310 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: can you imagine Bernie Sanders trying to break up a 311 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: fight between two guys in a Senate subcommittee hearing? That 312 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: would be Do you remember you may have even seen 313 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: this viral video. Do you remember when Don Zimmer ran 314 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: up on Pedro Martinez back in the day as the 315 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: Yankees Red Sox. I think it was a playoff game 316 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: and Pedro Martinez is like getting charged, like shoves Don 317 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: Zimmer down. That's kind of the way that I see 318 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: the Bernie Sanders trying to break up Do you that 319 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: video I'm talking about? 320 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: Like don a little bit. 321 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a seventy five years old, you know, like 322 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: like Guylemons or Nolan Ryan who got charged and put 323 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: the guy in a headlock and started kind of throwing haymakers. 324 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: That was Nolan Ryan, and and he was punching if 325 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: you hadn't brought it up, Robin Ventura, I think in 326 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: the head that was like twenty five years ago. He 327 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: got him in like a headlock, and Jays Robin Venture 328 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: just punched him over and over and over again. You know, 329 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: Nolan Ryan's an old cattle rancher and he basically just 330 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: grabbed me. Got that old cattle rancher strength, you know 331 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: what I mean, a lot of grip strength on those guys. 332 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh. 333 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: And Nolan Ryan also pitched till he was like forty 334 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 1: five years old or whatever the heck it was throwing uh, 335 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: throwing no hitters until that age basically as well. I 336 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: think he's struck out over five thousand. 337 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: Do you say this? 338 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 4: I think this is actually all very helpful, though, Clay 339 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 4: bringing us back to this story for Congressman Mike Johnson, 340 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 4: the new Speaker of the House, because they just passed 341 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 4: a continuing resolution with the votes everybody funding the government. 342 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 4: Nobody cares. People are gonna pretend to care. I don't 343 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 4: know how cynically you want me to get on this one, 344 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 4: but all these Republicans, we need to tuckle the debt 345 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 4: and then it's okay. We're gonna shut down the government 346 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 4: and then Nope, actually they're not. They're not. And I 347 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 4: know they could say that he's only been in office 348 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 4: for whatever it is a few weeks now, but uh, 349 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 4: let's see what happens the next time. 350 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 351 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: Look, until you control the Senate, and certainly until you 352 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: control the White House, your bargaining power is minimal. 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Ultimately, the focus is not just 377 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: going to be on billionaires. It's not just going to 378 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: be on people and what their costs were on their 379 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: private jets or how they expensed their fourth different mansion 380 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: in a third different country. 381 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: It's ultimately going to end up on you and me and. 382 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: Everybody out there who the IRS determines they're going to 383 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: treat like a criminal. 384 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 2: And I just want to share what's going on. 385 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: I talked about this, I think it was last week Buck, 386 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: when I said that I was being audited for the 387 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: first time ever. The same year that I began to 388 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: do this show with Buck, and it got some attention. 389 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: People are like, oh, what's going on. 390 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: I also now, Buck have gotten a notice from the 391 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: IRS that was on my twenty twenty one tax return. 392 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: I got a notice from the IRS on my twenty 393 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: twenty two tax return, and in that notice they said 394 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: that I owed thirty nine dollars and seventy five cents 395 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: in additional tax. Now, just to put it into context 396 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: for all of you, I'm very fortunate. I in the 397 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: last decade have started to do pretty well in my 398 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: professional career. I have paid over ten million dollars in 399 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: federal income tax over the past two years. 400 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 2: I got a notice. 401 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: On my twenty twenty two tax return that I owed 402 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: an additional thirty nine dollars and seventy five cents. 403 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 2: Mind you, I. 404 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: Have paid over ten million in federal income taxes. You 405 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: cannot tell me that they are not screwing with me. 406 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: Now, so I wrote a new check. 407 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 4: Maybe they wanted their thirty seven dollars. I mean, the 408 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 4: ten million that you gave them already, that's all well 409 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 4: and good, But there's thirty seven bucks that's left on 410 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 4: the table. 411 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 2: There to be. 412 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: Fair, thirty nine dollars and seventy five cents. I was 413 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: tempted to write thirty nine seventy six so they would 414 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: have to send me a refund for the extra penny 415 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: and taxes that I had paid. But this is what's 416 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: going to happen to many of you. And I want 417 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: to talk for a minute about my twenty twenty one 418 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: return because I think a lot of you out there 419 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: that run small businesses, a lot of you out there 420 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: that are doing everything right paying your taxes. You don't 421 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: have Swiss bank accounts out there, buck, I don't even 422 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: understand how this is legal. On my twenty twenty one 423 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: tax return. They haven't alleged that I underpaid anything. Again, 424 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: they alleged that I underpaid thirty nine dollars and seventy 425 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: five cents in my twenty twenty two tax return, so 426 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: I legitly paid that yesterday. But they're telling me we 427 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: want all of your bank statements for the past couple 428 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: of years. We want you to hand over any sort 429 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: of business relationship contracts that you have so that we 430 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: can review them. And I'm just sitting back and I've 431 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: got a law degree, but I have not spent a 432 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: lot of time in tax law. To be fair, But 433 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: how is it that our federal government can come to me, 434 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: not say that I owe anything at all additional on 435 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: my twenty twenty one taxes, but demand that I produce hundreds, 436 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: if not thousands, potentially of pages of documents that I 437 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: hand over to them that they then scour to try. 438 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: And argue that I owe more money. 439 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: Like you can't just say to someone under existing law, 440 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: and who knows what Joe Biden, right, let's put a 441 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: preface there. 442 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: But an FBI agent couldn't just knock on my. 443 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: Door and say we want your cell phones and your 444 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: laptops and your iPads, And I. 445 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: Would say what for? And they would say, well. 446 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: We just want to review all of them to make 447 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: sure that you haven't committed any crime. Shouldn't there be 448 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: probable cause here on a tax return to say hey 449 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: we think you owe I mean, I've turned in my 450 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: tax They see all of the bills, you know, they 451 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: have access to everything that I receive in payment, and 452 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: there's no allegation that I haven't paid everything that I owe. 453 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: They're just saying to me, hey, we need hundreds of pages, 454 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: if not thousands of pages of your records so that 455 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: we can review them. 456 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 2: How is that legal? I just I don't understand it. 457 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: And the reason why I'm telling the story is when 458 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: I try to be completely honest with you, but what's 459 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: happening to me with eighty seven thousand additional irs agent 460 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: is going to be happening to a lot of you 461 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: out there. 462 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 4: Listening right now. We'll also understand. You know, if you 463 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 4: go back to the Founding, there was the issue of 464 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 4: the general warrant or a writ of assistance right where 465 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 4: they could go in just because they felt like it 466 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 4: and look at everything. So this was the customs officials, 467 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 4: so they could go into your homes, look at all 468 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 4: your papers, look at all your fects, everything and anything 469 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 4: they wanted to because they had a rid of assistance 470 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 4: and the crown wanted to know and that was it, 471 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 4: and then they could obviously seize contraband levy fines and 472 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 4: even imprison you. And the notion of a general warrant 473 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 4: just an unspecified give us all of this stuff was 474 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 4: something that very much bothered the founders and something that 475 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 4: you know, helped lead to this country we know of 476 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 4: as America because this was this was common with the 477 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 4: customs officials and they used it as both a compliance 478 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 4: tool but also a harassment tool against people, and you 479 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 4: had no means of redress. You know, the RS effectively 480 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 4: operates with a general warrant as and they can just 481 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 4: decide that it's your turn. You know, they see something 482 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 4: that is some indicator and they decide it's your turn 483 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 4: to get the treatment that you are getting right now, Clay. 484 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 4: And you know, why should you think about it? It's 485 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 4: an additional tax on of your money and time to 486 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 4: make sure that you are complying with taxes you've already paid. 487 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 4: Why shouldn't that Why shouldn't there be a loser pays? 488 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 4: For those of you familiar, they have this in some 489 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 4: core proceedings in the UK, the government should have to 490 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 4: if you complied with all your taxes, the government wull 491 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 4: have to pay your legal. 492 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: Fees if they're going to get your audit. 493 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 4: Now that would obviously change the whole full audit process 494 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 4: pretty substantially, but they should they should know. 495 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 2: There should be big. 496 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 4: Bright red flags. You know, we think this person did 497 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 4: something wrong. That's not what goes on. They're just like, yeah, 498 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 4: we're gonna check out all your stuff. 499 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, they just said we want all your bank account statements. 500 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: We want all of your business related contracts. 501 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,239 Speaker 2: We want it. 502 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: Like, so why should they be able and they haven't 503 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: alleged any wrongdoing at all, Like, why should they be 504 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: able to do that? You couldn't again just knock on 505 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: my door and say give me your phone. We just 506 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: want to make sure you haven't done anything wrong. And 507 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: to your point, I do think, and I know there's 508 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: a lot of Republicans out there listening, but I don't 509 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: even think this is particular part is particularly partisan because 510 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: obviously people of all different political persuasions. Although I don't 511 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: think it's a coincidence that I never got audited and 512 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: then I started doing this show and suddenly they're going 513 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: through everything with a fine tooth comb. My thing, Buck is, 514 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: why would you not be in a position where the 515 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: government does have to pay my accounting and legal fees 516 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: because they're alleging that I've done something wrong. 517 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: I haven't. 518 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: When they review all of this now, they may try 519 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: to do the loophole thing, like they just asked for 520 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: thirty nine dollars and seventy five cents in back taxes, 521 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: right when you've gotten over ten million from me in 522 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: the past couple of years. Why again, to just give 523 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: you a sense of how tiny that percentage of tax 524 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: issue they're claiming is. There's no way that whoever uncovered 525 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: the thirty nine dollars and seventy five cents that they claim, 526 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 1: I owe in any way that our government made money 527 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: based on the time that they spent pouring over my 528 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two tax return. But why should they be 529 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: able to make these claims like we And I don't know, 530 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: I need to do full research, but it seems like 531 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: it should be equitable that if you've done nothing wrong, 532 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: the government should be on the hook for whatever costs 533 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: I incur trying to respond to them. 534 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 4: I also think it is worth pointing out that the 535 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 4: I think it was an employee of the Trump organization 536 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 4: in New York. They is an elderly guy. They sent 537 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 4: him to prison for like not you know, listing a 538 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 4: company car use for something very minor accounting issue, you know, 539 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 4: TICKI TAC low level tax stuff, and you know they 540 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 4: sent him to prison for it. So you know, you 541 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 4: also have this notion that I think I think, oh, well, 542 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 4: you know, if you're a good person, you canmply everything's fine. 543 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 4: It's like, no, the tax code is so complicated, and 544 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 4: some of the interpretations are open enough or vague enough 545 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 4: that they can effectively find a fault with you no 546 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 4: matter who you are. And so that's a very difficult place, 547 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 4: I think for anybody who thinks we live in a 548 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 4: free society, it's a difficult thing to argue that our 549 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 4: tax code is anything other than well, it's a mess, obviously, 550 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 4: but there's also a lot of special favors and corruption 551 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 4: and social engineering and nonsense hidden in the thousands and 552 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 4: thousands of pages that comprise the US tax code. Ted 553 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 4: Cruz ran a twenty sixteen play on a Boss in 554 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 4: the Irs and a one page tax code. Yeah, we 555 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 4: should have a one page tax one hundred percent one 556 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 4: hundred percent. 557 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: And for people out there, I think that on my 558 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: tax return, I think I could hire ten esteemed accountants, 559 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: super smart guys and gals, to go through everything, look 560 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: at all my documents, look at everything file or return, 561 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: and I think all ten would come up with a 562 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: different dollar that I owed and that that should be paid. 563 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: And I don't think most of them would be that 564 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: much different in the total dollars. But that's not because 565 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: somebody is like trying to be shady or something. It's 566 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: because the tax code is so complicated that applying it 567 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: consistently and evenly, even when you have brilliant people working 568 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: on it as their full time job, they can't do 569 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: it and they can't all agree on the exact same dollars, 570 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: and so as I just I look at this, and 571 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: I say, anybody out there who saw this for anything 572 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: other than what it was, eighty seven thousand additional IRS 573 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: agents is going to put so many of you who 574 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: are honestly and legally paying your taxes under the same 575 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: microscope that I'm under right now. And god forbid you're 576 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: donating a lot of money to Republicans or you're doing 577 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: something that is in the disfavor of the current administration. 578 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: I definitely believe that puts you under the microscope. 579 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 4: Even more so, definitely show up to your IRS audit 580 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 4: wearing your MSNBC hat and if it comes up to 581 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 4: just be like, I don't like those clay Buck guys. 582 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 4: They're bad. I love I love Scarborough and Madow. 583 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 2: Because I'm I'm not even going to show up. 584 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do the IRS agent, who I'm 585 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: sure hates me and hates the things that I say, 586 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do their there. They're not going 587 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: to get the full uh full excitement of my personal appearance. 588 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to have my attorneys, I'm going to have 589 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: my accountants show up. I really want them to just 590 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: go double birds and say screw you guys and uh 591 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: And honestly, I think the I R should have to 592 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: pay me for all of the trouble that this is 593 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: going to incur again. It's just it's it's coming for 594 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: a lot of you. I think it's just important to understand. 595 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: But the thirty nine dollars and seventy five cents that 596 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: the IRS got from me Buck is going to completely 597 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: handle the thirty three trillion in debt that has been 598 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: currently in curt imagine that book. 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We're gonna be talking 635 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 4: to Ted Cruz Center of Texas in the next hour. 636 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: He's got a. 637 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 4: Book coming out, Unwoke. I think it's called or anti 638 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 4: Woke or Unwokening, something like that. Ted Cruise does not 639 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 4: like woke. 640 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 2: That is the bottom line. 641 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 4: That is all you need to know, which is I'm 642 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 4: sure entirely unsurprising to every but he listening to this. 643 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 4: He does not like cultural Marxism either, and the book, 644 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 4: the book will be diving into some of that. But 645 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 4: we're talking about the current events the scene. What's going on. 646 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 4: Is he confident his Senate Republican colleague would have trounced 647 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 4: in a one v one melee the union individual from yesterday. 648 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 4: If we all recall that, so we will look at 649 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 4: we will look at all. Okay, here it is unwoke. 650 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: Oh I was right? 651 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 4: How did it feed cultural Marxism in America? 652 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: That's the book. We'll talk about it. 653 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 4: And yes, indeed, Clay, we have a lot of a 654 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 4: lot of emails flying in here about people weighing in 655 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 4: on the generals. 656 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: But I did, we did we? 657 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 4: Okay, we'll do the day in a white conversation. What 658 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 4: do you think in the next hour where. 659 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do that. 660 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, because that'll be a good follow up to Ted 661 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 4: Cruse's Unwoke conversation. So I think that's that's worthwhile. And 662 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 4: there's something I also wanted to get into here for 663 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 4: a moment if I could. Uh, And it is briefly, 664 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 4: at least, the border situation. And here is Joe Scarborough. 665 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 4: This is cut six. Joe Scarborough is saying he's sick 666 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 4: and tired of Republicans stopping border funding. 667 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: Play six. 668 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 6: I'm sick and tired of them stopping funding for border security. 669 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 6: We need border security, and I don't know what the 670 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 6: House Republican sects is more important. They love talking about 671 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 6: the issue, but Joe Biden actually wants to fund additional 672 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 6: border security and they won't do it. They refuse to 673 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 6: fund it, day after day after day. They've refused to 674 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 6: do an immigration deal now for a couple of years 675 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 6: that would take care of the border, And now they're 676 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 6: refusing to even fund border security just so they can 677 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 6: go on TV channels and bitch and wine about border 678 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 6: security when they're the reasons the money is not getting 679 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 6: down to the southern border. 680 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 4: This is why it's important that shows like ours exist. 681 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 4: Joe Scarborough, it's always tough to know whether it's him 682 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 4: be ignorant, him being an inbocile, or him being completely disingenuous. 683 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 4: In this case, it's probably a combination of all three. 684 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 2: Clay. 685 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 4: The border funding that Biden wants is overwhelmingly to make 686 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 4: it faster and easier to process the arrivals who are 687 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 4: then becoming the quote migrants after their illegal entry into 688 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 4: the country, who are destroying the budget of say New 689 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 4: York City. Yeah, when we say border security, we mean 690 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 4: people assigned to stop entry, deport those who enter illegally, 691 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 4: and stop the flow of fentanel. When they say border funding, 692 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 4: they mean more of a welcoming committee, more people there 693 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 4: to hand out sandwiches and put people on the buses 694 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 4: and planes. 695 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 696 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: And I don't think we've talked a ton about this 697 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: but Joe Biden and his FBI is currently investigating New 698 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: York City Mayor Eric Adams for his connections to Turkish 699 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: individuals and potentially campaign funds there. They rated Eric Adams 700 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: top fundraiser. On the day Eric Adams was scheduled to 701 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: talk about the failure of the Biden administration to deal 702 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: with the migrant crisis in Washington, DC, they took Eric Adams' 703 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: cell phones and his iPad. The FBI sees them. I 704 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: don't know that we talk collectively enough about the incredible 705 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: weaponization of Joe Biden's This is aid. 706 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 4: Just like just like you getting your first full field 707 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 4: IRS audit. 708 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 2: It's all a coincidence. 709 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,720 Speaker 1: If you speak in any way negatively about Joe Biden, 710 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: they will use the full power of the Department of 711 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: Justice and the FBI to come after you. I don't 712 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: think that's a coincidence anywhere, even if you're a Democrat. 713 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely chilling and its intentional. Last hour