Speaker 1: Toss Popcorn is a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Sianna Jacob and I'm Leanna Holston and welcome
Speaker 2: to Tossed Popcorn, the podcast where two idiots watched every
Speaker 2: film on the AFI's one hundred Greatest American Movies of
Speaker 2: All Times, the Very Slightly Less Racist tenth Anniversary edition,
Speaker 2: and are now watching films of our own and listeners
Speaker 2: choosing that were directed by women. This podcast is a
Speaker 2: safe conversion camp for people who don't know anything about movies.
Speaker 2: Today we're watching but I'm a cheerleader, I'm a sexual,
Speaker 2: I'm all of sexual. Congratulations Megan. Warning, there will be
Speaker 2: spoilers about this gay old film. A content warning I
Speaker 2: suppose for yeah, conversion therapy, Yeah slash. It's a parody
Speaker 2: of it, but it is still a topic.
Speaker 1: True.
Speaker 2: Oh girl, I just woke up from a nap. I
Speaker 2: feel I feel like a haunted Edwardian child.
Speaker 1: I woke up from a full night's sleep. Okay, just
Speaker 1: after I said that, I remember.
Speaker 2: You remember when do you remember that time where I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, yeah, I feel this way about things,
Speaker 2: like I feel like sometimes this happens to me, and
Speaker 2: you were like, yeah, sometimes that happens to me too.
Speaker 2: But it turned out it was the exact opposite for you, when.
Speaker 1: You were like, oh yeah, when like men turn not
Speaker 1: to be engaged, and then I was like, this guy
Speaker 1: keeps talking to me, and I think.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, say I missed the mark
Speaker 3: with that one.
Speaker 2: Sorry about that. It's so funny to try and commiserate
Speaker 2: and then realize you've shared something that's exactly the opposite you.
Speaker 2: You're actually experiencing exactly what the person is 'rening for. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're like, oh really, sorry about that about Lantis. I'm
Speaker 2: sorry about.
Speaker 1: That, Leona.
Speaker 2: Now, well, prediction we do, Yeah, we do.
Speaker 1: Prediction. So had you seen this movie? Had you you
Speaker 1: hadn't known anything about this movie?
Speaker 2: Hey, let me play in my prediction.
Speaker 1: Gosh, how perfect is that? Yes?
Speaker 2: I think I may answer those questions in it if I.
Speaker 2: If memory serves Hi, Sienna, it's Leanna. I'm above to watch.
Speaker 2: But I'm a cheerleader. I don't know much about this
Speaker 2: beyond Natasha Leone and lesbians, but I gotta predict there
Speaker 2: will be cheerleading and kind of really kind of like
Speaker 2: maybe an early two thousands or late nineties take on
Speaker 2: gay rights so sligh love you guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh, wow. I already want to talk
Speaker 1: about it so much. But first, let's do my predict. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's do my pretty That was of the greatest love songs.
Speaker 2: On two CDs this Valentine's Day nineteen ninety nine. Order
Speaker 2: for your loved one. High Leanna.
Speaker 1: This is I'm about to watch outside. But I'm a cheerleader.
Speaker 1: I got this movie that's been on my list for
Speaker 1: a really long time. I really love Natasha.
Speaker 2: Leone Are You at the Zoo? It seems so.
Speaker 1: Funny and campy and kitchy and gay, and I'm really
Speaker 1: excited to watch it. I don't really know what to expect.
Speaker 1: I know the basic plot is, like, I think a
Speaker 1: gay conversion camp sort of thing, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 1: But I can't wait to see what this could. Classic
Speaker 1: is such a classic? Nice?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: I love you Goodbye?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I knew it was a cult favorite. I've seen
Speaker 1: the trailer like a million times, but I've been around
Speaker 1: to watching it. M shout out to one of our
Speaker 1: listeners actually who even said that we should.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, someone very recently messaged on our list.
Speaker 1: But I'll say that moved it up the power of
Speaker 1: the people. It is true, you don't know what we're
Speaker 1: doing well theanna before we get into it, which again
Speaker 1: I just can't wait. Yeah, hey girl, how's it going?
Speaker 2: Hey girl, I'm I'm fresh back from a march against
Speaker 2: fascism really in London.
Speaker 1: Fashion our fascism or your fascism?
Speaker 2: Global? Global, but certainly certainly America was the topic within it,
Speaker 2: mainly Elon Musk, but then also this guy Tommy Robbins
Speaker 2: in the UK who has been a leader of the
Speaker 2: far right in the UK for a couple of decades,
Speaker 2: and was it's just kind of a piece of crap,
Speaker 2: you know, And there was apparently a march in support
Speaker 2: of him and his hateful agenda. And so today today
Speaker 2: and so Dustie, there was a counter protest by people
Speaker 2: who think other people deserve rights. Yes, I'm sorry, it
Speaker 2: just sometimes I don't understand the agenda of the other
Speaker 2: side because I'm like.
Speaker 1: What are you accomplishing it? I just.
Speaker 2: I don't know why we don't think people should have rights.
Speaker 2: I don't want to get into it too much, but
Speaker 2: I went to that ran into somebody I did an
Speaker 2: acting intensive with eight years ago, instantaneously at the march
Speaker 2: said hello, sides with them, I know, thank God, could
Speaker 2: you imagine? Yeah? Yeah, And honestly, the march was pretty lit.
Speaker 2: We were right by the drum section, which was super fun.
Speaker 2: And then they like singing songs. They were doing chance
Speaker 2: to the tunes of like Drunken Sailor and other banging tunes.
Speaker 2: And then my favorite one was when I say Nazi,
Speaker 2: you say scum, Nazi, scum, Nazi, scum Nazi, Nazi nazimcums come.
Speaker 1: That is nice.
Speaker 2: It was so fun. I turned around, I was like,
Speaker 2: I love that's that's a good one. That's a great one.
Speaker 2: And keep marching, keep marching, and like scam, scam, scim
Speaker 2: because we love the word scum here at tops podcorn
Speaker 2: and so I was yours com. I was so pleased
Speaker 2: to see it leaking into the the anti fascism movementcm
Speaker 2: com com.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, not to get into it too much, but yeah,
Speaker 1: that the whole the conservative side is just like, let's
Speaker 1: undo everything, let's stop progress, social progress. It's like, what
Speaker 1: are you Are you really proud of the things you've
Speaker 1: done because all you've done.
Speaker 2: Is undo And I get that. It's that tactic in
Speaker 2: order to make us exhausted, and yes not but totally
Speaker 2: my good God.
Speaker 1: Over here in America. Also, people keep being like, this
Speaker 1: is way worse than I thought, and I'm like, how
Speaker 1: you I'm not. It's not helpful to be like it's
Speaker 1: not helpful to be like that. Now to there, like
Speaker 1: I told you so, and I don't.
Speaker 2: Revel in that.
Speaker 1: However, Yeah, this is absolutely as bad as I thought
Speaker 1: it was going to be. But yeah, we're out here,
Speaker 1: We're staying educated. Love, love to see you out there marching. Also,
Speaker 1: congrats on your show that you're taking to the French
Speaker 1: that Leanna famously did not mention last week. Well, I
Speaker 1: truly had to edit down how long we talked about
Speaker 1: your toothbrush and yet not once just mentioned any of
Speaker 1: these accomplishments here on our comedy podcast.
Speaker 2: My accomplishment of being against fascism. Hey girl, I've recently
Speaker 2: achieved being against fascism.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 2: I completed it. I've completed being against fascism. Yes, my
Speaker 2: friend and I are taking a show to the Fringe,
Speaker 2: the Edinburgh Festival Fringe this summer. We're very excited about it.
Speaker 2: And we did our first work in progress show yay
Speaker 2: this week, Yes, yay, yay, May you come.
Speaker 1: I don't have any plans of death for this year.
Speaker 2: I like, I don't have any plans passed when my
Speaker 2: current visa expires because I still don't know about my
Speaker 2: next one. So yeah, God, come on down. Well, I
Speaker 2: know I'll at least be in Scotland in August. Beyond that,
Speaker 2: who's to say.
Speaker 1: Who's to say? Okay, well, we'll figure.
Speaker 2: Girl, I really want to go to that ice cream shop.
Speaker 2: I follow her, Mary's Milk Bar. If you've not been,
Speaker 2: if you are there and you see me in line,
Speaker 2: you let me in front of you. I've said it already, okay,
Speaker 2: in a brand ambassador for her for ten years, So.
Speaker 1: You're not recommending it. You're just telling people that you
Speaker 1: are going to cut them.
Speaker 2: I will be there and I will cut you in line.
Speaker 2: If you are at Mary's Milk Bar, no, please go
Speaker 2: so it stays open so I can go again. But again,
Speaker 2: if I've gone and you're there, I will be cutting
Speaker 2: in front of you. Oh, Mama needs her gelato.
Speaker 1: Mama, Mama, mama, Hey girl, hey girl, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: give you some rapid fire updates. First of Okay, for breakfast,
Speaker 1: I noticed I'm eating a series of black sludges because
Speaker 1: I'm having a vegemite, which is very delicious. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: now that I get it, I really get it. But
Speaker 1: then coffee sometimes are you ever drinking coffee? And you're like,
Speaker 1: what are we even doing to ourselves? Yeah? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just like hah, it is a drug. Yeah, caffeine water.
Speaker 1: And then I put people syrup in it, and I
Speaker 1: was just looking around and I was like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is a lot of sludge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of slugs. They're like, do you
Speaker 2: remember that villain from the movie fern Gully the Last Range?
Speaker 1: Yes, and I think about it often. Yeah, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: That's what I am right now this morning, just gooping around. Uh.
Speaker 1: I had to make a puppet for a short film,
Speaker 1: and okay, I gotta say, I'm actually really proud of it.
Speaker 2: Is that what was on your Instagram story the other day? Yes,
Speaker 2: there was a photo of something in the front seat
Speaker 2: of a car.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they' I'll post more of it because to be honest,
Speaker 1: to be honest, what this really is is I had
Speaker 1: to do this project. They wanted some alien looking puppet
Speaker 1: that looks kind of like Stitch or one of the
Speaker 1: Gremlins puppets. Yeah, which it's not hard at all to
Speaker 1: make something look like something else, at least for me.
Speaker 1: I'm always kind of creative. I'm like, do you want
Speaker 1: it to be interesting and creative in this way?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: And they're like, gosh, no, we want it to be
Speaker 1: just exactly like that first thing. And I'm like, I
Speaker 1: know I can do that.
Speaker 2: What you're like the second son of a wealthy aristocratic
Speaker 2: family in London in the in the Georgian era, like
Speaker 2: in the early nineteenth century, who's like, I want to
Speaker 2: be an artist, but everything I do is derivative. I
Speaker 2: want to do something original, something.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing is, I don't mind doing something derivative.
Speaker 1: I don't mind me it's just that I usually feel
Speaker 1: the pressure to do something better and different. But here
Speaker 1: they're like, no, your job is just to do something
Speaker 1: that's exactly like those other things. And I said, no problem,
Speaker 1: no problem. But every first thing that I did ended
Speaker 1: up working out, and I realized it's because I just
Speaker 1: know what to do now, because I've gained skills.
Speaker 2: No crazy, Oh, it's nice.
Speaker 1: It's like one of the most successful things I've done
Speaker 1: in a long time. But it's after all the trial
Speaker 1: and error. So that's been that's been exciting.
Speaker 2: That is very cool.
Speaker 1: Okay, And the final thing I'll share is that the
Speaker 1: other day my friends realized how large my wingspan is.
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about that at the beginning of
Speaker 1: this podcast because I had to reach for my this
Speaker 1: blanket and it was really far away, and yet I
Speaker 1: grabbed it and I was like, there's that wingspan again.
Speaker 2: There she is, there, she blows. Is it longer than
Speaker 2: your height? I imagined it's the same.
Speaker 1: I don't think it can be, can it. I mean, well,
Speaker 1: and I don't know.
Speaker 2: Your limbs are a little freakish. Yeah, I think I
Speaker 2: just wonder if your large feet, if maybe you're if
Speaker 2: maybe you also had for some reason a big wingspan.
Speaker 1: I think it's especially I think it is like my feet,
Speaker 1: and that it's particularly large. I'm a real I'm a
Speaker 1: real loose lady.
Speaker 2: Everything's yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, it's noticeable.
Speaker 1: You can't see it on the podcast, but I feel
Speaker 1: like you can probably hear it. I have a very
Speaker 1: large wingspan.
Speaker 2: People are always reading in to be like, does Siana
Speaker 2: have a big wingspan.
Speaker 1: You can hear.
Speaker 2: Something like, she's got quite the wingspan. Well, there's air
Speaker 2: is bending around something, and my senses it's Enna's wingspan.
Speaker 1: Well, Leanna, we've hate girls. Hey, speaking of the old
Speaker 1: wave of girls and girls and girls bodies. Yes, talking
Speaker 1: about her film, Would.
Speaker 2: You please give us a synopsis of But I'm a Cheerleader?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will. But I'm a Cheerleader. Natasha Leone is
Speaker 1: sent to a campy gay conversion camp.
Speaker 4: Hm.
Speaker 1: But she ends up falling in love with the girl
Speaker 1: and embracing who she is the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really what happens. It is campy. It is
Speaker 1: called the Yeah, Leanna, let's move on to phone notes.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the note that we took on our
Speaker 1: phone while watching the movie.
Speaker 2: But at the top of this, I want.
Speaker 1: To know you feel about it generally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, let me up at the top of at
Speaker 2: the top of that apologize because I took like seven
Speaker 2: notes during the course of the entire movie. It turned
Speaker 2: out okay, great. Yeah, I was watching it. I think
Speaker 2: I was also kind of processing, you know, being anti fascist.
Speaker 2: I was a little I just kind of reconciling, you know.
Speaker 1: It felt a little silly to me watching something after
Speaker 1: I'd just been actually ending fascism.
Speaker 2: So for me, like, I mean, a movie is getting
Speaker 2: out in the streets. I can't say the movie ended fascism,
Speaker 2: but I did. It kind of pales in comparison to
Speaker 2: randing fascism. Yeah, yeah, I single handedly ended fascism today
Speaker 2: and you're welcome.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I just was tired, so I didn't write much down.
Speaker 2: But as a result, I really had my eyeballs on
Speaker 2: the film much more than I normally do. Me too,
Speaker 2: Oh okay, and then now that that uptop has been cleared,
Speaker 2: we can move down to the other up top, which
Speaker 2: is I I thought this movie, this is said with
Speaker 2: so much love. This movie was bad, but I didn't
Speaker 2: mind that. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like in terms of it's quality, yeah, the acting was.
Speaker 2: It was really silly. And then I thought some of
Speaker 2: the acting was really hard to watch as in bad huh.
Speaker 2: But overall it's so camp that I was like, that's fine,
Speaker 2: that's the genre. Totally totally Leanna, how about you.
Speaker 1: I loved it. I think it's my favorite movie. Whoa,
Speaker 1: I loved it so much. Oh my gosh, I see
Speaker 1: what you mean about it being quote unquote bad because
Speaker 1: it's just exactly the type of thing that holds my attention.
Speaker 2: Ah yeah, and I.
Speaker 1: Just loved it. I loved the cast. There was what
Speaker 1: you said in your prediction where you said like it
Speaker 1: would be like a nineties take on ye gay rights
Speaker 1: and things. I expected it to be a lot more
Speaker 1: dated and where it was coming from, But it was
Speaker 1: just like a lot sweeter than I expected. I thought.
Speaker 1: I knew there'd be like funny gay jokes and everything, Uh,
Speaker 1: but be funny gay jokes and then it would be
Speaker 1: making fun of it. But I thought I thought it
Speaker 1: would be more irreverent, I guess, and it was really campy, but.
Speaker 2: You know what, over the top. I really thought there
Speaker 2: was gonna be a lot more cheerleading. I thought it
Speaker 2: was going to be like bring it on, like they're
Speaker 2: training for the championship and she's kind of grappling with
Speaker 2: her homosexuality along the way. But I expected a lot
Speaker 2: of routines and there was not even one.
Speaker 1: No. Once she does at the end is like so
Speaker 1: not cheerleading. I loved it. I thought it was so
Speaker 1: much fun, Oh yay, and just really sweet.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, well.
Speaker 1: Your first note is kissing really seems like it sucks. Listen,
Speaker 1: say more, it's been a it's been a minute. Don't
Speaker 1: pretend you haven't kissed.
Speaker 2: No, but it has been a minute. Uh, it's been
Speaker 2: a long minute.
Speaker 1: So even thinking about it, I'm remembering it like this.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just like, it's a lot of tongues. Well,
Speaker 2: I would say it's a little bit terrible. And I
Speaker 2: get that they were over I was gonna say overdoing it,
Speaker 2: I hope. Even when she was kissing a girl, I
Speaker 2: was a little bit like, I don't know, actually good either,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to be clear, the kiss with her boyfriend was.
Speaker 2: Over the top.
Speaker 1: Oh, definitely bad.
Speaker 2: Bad.
Speaker 1: I thought that was so she was.
Speaker 2: Not into it. I did think that was funny. And
Speaker 2: then I was just like, Okay, it's gross, please stop. Yeah,
Speaker 2: ad break actor, dancer, homosexual. I'll be right back. Yeah, Seanna,
Speaker 2: your first note is cheerleading is insane? Okay.
Speaker 1: Did you know cheerleading at your school in high school
Speaker 1: or middle school?
Speaker 2: Middle school? We did have cheerleading in high school.
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think you're allowed to throw a child that
Speaker 2: young in the air, are you middle school?
Speaker 1: I think you are allowed to throw a child that
Speaker 1: high in the air, if it's like at their own
Speaker 1: cheerleading camps, as long as it's school throwing them in.
Speaker 1: The reason I thought of that is because my roommate
Speaker 1: actually she did it in middle school.
Speaker 2: She said, whoa gosh, that's young. Uh, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, it just feels like it's one
Speaker 1: of those things that I think. It was kind of
Speaker 1: a classic high school. We didn't have them at my
Speaker 1: high school because my high school was Catholic. No, it
Speaker 1: just like, was, what's the word, what's the Catholic? When
Speaker 1: it's like braggy Catholic. No, No, pretentious. My high school
Speaker 1: was pretentious in that they kind of thought they were
Speaker 1: better than everybody else else. That's kind of how I think.
Speaker 1: So it's like, we don't have cheerleading, we have like
Speaker 1: a spirit squad because okay, because we're special and so
Speaker 1: I always thought of it as sort of a distant concept.
Speaker 1: But it's one of those things that I look back
Speaker 1: on now that I'm done with school. Yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 1: that is one of the most hardcore sporting events you
Speaker 1: can possibly do. People are throwing themselves. You have to
Speaker 1: be so buff to do that and that's just the
Speaker 1: thing that we're like, oh my god, like so hot,
Speaker 1: like they're there, these incredibly athletes. I've never done anything
Speaker 1: like that. I've never done any sort of flip. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I've ever ever gotten air in my
Speaker 1: whole life. I don't think I've ever gotten air.
Speaker 2: Really. Oh you gotta go get air.
Speaker 1: My wingspan.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you'd be slapping the whole team, everybody,
Speaker 2: the whole pyramid down.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, Leanna, your next note is hahaha, my
Speaker 1: Christmas her I assume vegetarian part.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the vegetarian meal she has of corn, peas and
Speaker 2: carrots and mashed potato. That is literally what I eat
Speaker 2: on Christmas dinner.
Speaker 1: That is so funny. I was looking at that just
Speaker 1: like where is what's the secret? What's the secret vegetarian meat?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were just tired, you know.
Speaker 1: The I'm like the equivalent of people being like now,
Speaker 1: which one's the girl and which one god in like
Speaker 1: gay relationships, like which one you use the meat? Which
Speaker 1: one is the meat? What do you which? What? What
Speaker 1: do you eat? Is the meat? So I don't understand it.
Speaker 2: You're so uh car carneo normative.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't even eat that much meat. I
Speaker 1: don't like cooking it that much. But I have just
Speaker 1: a thief that I.
Speaker 2: Haven't seen you eat a lot of meat. You'll have
Speaker 2: like a dried stink of meat.
Speaker 1: Thanks. That's the thing. I always try to throw a
Speaker 1: little bit in once a day, m but I often don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I eat.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'll have a lot of canned fish things like that.
Speaker 1: Oh god, oh my god.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'll read your next note, which is kind
Speaker 1: of along the vibes what we're talking about. You said, honey,
Speaker 1: we think you're a lesbian. My family waiting for me
Speaker 1: to come out.
Speaker 2: Everybody's waiting. I'm like, listen. As soon as I know,
Speaker 2: I'll let you know because I keep performing at this
Speaker 2: venue in London called the Queer Comedy Club, and my
Speaker 2: family are so wonderfully supportive, especially when I repost those
Speaker 2: nights to my stories, like they're like.
Speaker 1: Yes, love love this, honey, I love that, And guess
Speaker 1: how's fun I love you?
Speaker 2: We all love you. I'm like, thank you. It's I
Speaker 2: have a gig that is so funny. But yeah, that
Speaker 2: is how it feels, or like I went to a
Speaker 2: friend's birthday that was like specifically at like a lesbian
Speaker 2: karaoke venue, and I had dinner with my family the
Speaker 2: next night and they were like, and how was the party?
Speaker 1: You're like, I know, you guys just want clarity and
Speaker 1: I can't grant you that, and I me as well.
Speaker 2: I'd love to know again. As soon as I know,
Speaker 2: I'll let you know. Messiena, you wrote, Leona, what's your
Speaker 2: heterosexual root? I was a little bit confused about this.
Speaker 2: I kind of missed this. I thought they were so funny. Though,
Speaker 2: they're so funny.
Speaker 1: So they all have these they're supposed to find again,
Speaker 1: it's a gay conversion camp. It's like completely all this
Speaker 1: is very wrong. This is true. Anybody out there who's
Speaker 1: it's listening to our podcast and still has misguided views
Speaker 1: on these things. This isn't how things work.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they were the homophobic listeners who are are
Speaker 2: always tuning in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is they were trying to find their root,
Speaker 1: their homosexual root, the thing that made them gay.
Speaker 2: They were what was your favorite one?
Speaker 1: Grants's I loved my mom got married in pants? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and then uh Shanades was I.
Speaker 2: Was born and was born in France. Yeah, that was
Speaker 2: my favorite one.
Speaker 1: So funny.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, that would do it.
Speaker 1: I was born in France.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: They were so funny. Anyway, again, not to define our sexualities,
Speaker 1: but for your particular weird sexuality do you have?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we all have weird sexualities. I mean
Speaker 2: for your weird whatever you've got going on. Honestly, if anything,
Speaker 2: I'm rocking an asexual vibe right now, which I think
Speaker 2: stems from my wasp heritage, and well that is just inappropriate.
Speaker 1: My mom got married in pants.
Speaker 2: I am. I am descended from wasps a church, thank you?
Speaker 1: Which kind?
Speaker 2: They got married in Maine? I don't. I think Episcopalian.
Speaker 2: A few years back I was informed, as Protestant.
Speaker 1: Your parents got married in an Episcopalian church in Maine,
Speaker 1: So maybe.
Speaker 2: That's your I mean, couldn't get wasp beer. Really, really,
Speaker 2: what's yours? Hm hmm. Catholicism?
Speaker 1: Ye, honestly, straight up, I don't know. Let's just say
Speaker 1: it was the first time they did the we all
Speaker 1: come from dust, and to test dust, you will return
Speaker 1: songs at school.
Speaker 2: Was ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
Speaker 1: Leanna, you said, fake garden two weeks in a row. Weird?
Speaker 2: What was that the woman who ran the funding fake
Speaker 2: flowers in Dirt Bai Rose.
Speaker 1: This movie did have.
Speaker 2: There was overlap, an odd sort of facility.
Speaker 1: They're trying to change the youths.
Speaker 2: To be quote unquote normal. Yeah, the parents take them
Speaker 2: there so that the kids can have a quote unquote
Speaker 2: normal life. Strange, but yeah, I found that very eerie.
Speaker 2: Actually that twice that in both movies a woman is
Speaker 2: planting fake flowers into a garden bed. I was like,
Speaker 2: what does this say? Like? What are we? What is
Speaker 2: what is this about society that we are saying? And
Speaker 2: why does it keep coming up?
Speaker 1: What does it mean? What is this theme? Are there
Speaker 1: any characters you particularly enjoyed or who stood out to
Speaker 1: you in this movie? It's okay with the answer is no,
Speaker 1: By the way, thank you.
Speaker 2: I really liked and I'm not sure if this is true,
Speaker 2: but the cross eyed gay man.
Speaker 1: Yeah was he cross Okay? I loved he kind of was?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: I loved their energy when they had that conflict and
Speaker 1: they resolved it.
Speaker 2: Oh that was really nice.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: It was really nice they talked it out. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: then I love Melanie Lynsky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love her. Why is she so lovable?
Speaker 2: She's got such a comforting presence, Like if I was
Speaker 2: sent to conversion therapy and she who had to show
Speaker 2: me around and be like, well, maybe this is fine.
Speaker 1: I thought the woman in charge was It was really funny.
Speaker 1: She kept trying to make her son familiar. Who was
Speaker 1: I know, I got her gay son. She's like, stop
Speaker 1: at you, stop drinking out of that fancy straw.
Speaker 2: Stop it funny? Oh what?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: I was talking about the way God.
Speaker 2: The woman in charge we have seen in Raging Bull? No,
Speaker 2: what who was she? She's like the teen that he
Speaker 2: picks up from the pool.
Speaker 1: She's the girl who I'm so offended that. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: so glad she ended up here in her career. That
Speaker 1: actually warms my heart so much that she ended up
Speaker 1: in this very gay movie directed by a woman, a
Speaker 1: queer woman.
Speaker 2: Instead of oh I think was the opposite of Raging Bull.
Speaker 1: This is the opposite. It's the remedy. I looked it
Speaker 1: immediately versus hating it immediately, and it's made my life
Speaker 1: better instead of ruining my life. Oh my gosh. That
Speaker 1: is women's rights in a big way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, you did note having a full conversation
Speaker 2: in the middle of hooking up is women's ready.
Speaker 1: I loved that. I love that they're like a sex
Speaker 1: scene where first of all, it was a very beautiful
Speaker 1: and cute sex scene that's just like kissing and kind
Speaker 1: of like lovingly touching each other a little, and then
Speaker 1: they stop, yeah, finger blasting, finger bringing, finger boning, finger boning,
Speaker 1: and then they stop talk for a while about cheerleading,
Speaker 1: and then it's just like back into the music and
Speaker 1: making out. And I was like, absolutely.
Speaker 2: Love that about their real.
Speaker 1: I've been missing out, I really have What am I doing?
Speaker 2: Do you think? Do you think you'll give it a go?
Speaker 1: Probably not, because I think I'm but I found a
Speaker 1: person who's very much one of the girls, even though
Speaker 1: yeah is identifying male leading leaning.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I loved a lot about their relationship, the emphasis
Speaker 2: on that they just really enjoyed each other's company and
Speaker 2: left together. I think if I'd seen that in high school,
Speaker 2: that may have taught me a valuable lesson. And if
Speaker 2: you're supposed to have a crush on someone who you
Speaker 2: enjoy spending time with, m.
Speaker 1: There's just something that's really hard to wrap your head around.
Speaker 1: I think I think probably another part of what I
Speaker 1: was yearning for is that even though there was queer
Speaker 1: media around, I didn't really embrace it in a way
Speaker 1: where so much of in high school you're just like
Speaker 1: I was still doing the performative girl thing for boys.
Speaker 1: Like not even that I was doing that that much,
Speaker 1: but even in my head, I was like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to be like this. I was always think about
Speaker 1: what I was supposed to be, like yeah, for guys,
Speaker 1: because that's what so much of media is. Yeah, queer
Speaker 1: media is often really really pushing back on that obviously,
Speaker 1: and I just wish I could have absorbed it more because,
Speaker 1: like you said, yeah, there's so many beautiful lessons in it.
Speaker 1: They're just friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Leonna, your final notes are this movie is bad,
Speaker 1: but that's okay, and thank you. Remember shanded fascism before this,
Speaker 1: so she was looking at it through that line.
Speaker 2: Sorry guys. Yeah, it was a specific thing.
Speaker 1: And then Leona, your last note is OMG, yes, cheer
Speaker 1: your way into her heart.
Speaker 2: I did. I love that she was like, I did it.
Speaker 2: I wrote a cheer for you.
Speaker 1: It was cute.
Speaker 2: It's just really cute. I love that she was, like
Speaker 2: I just love cheerleading. I really love it so much.
Speaker 1: I loved that too. They didn't make her give it
Speaker 1: up or go like, oh this is stupid. This is
Speaker 1: part of hetro yeah, the hetero world, and this is
Speaker 1: part of my old life. She's like, I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it so much, and the only thing I
Speaker 1: love as much is cheerley. He's making out was my girlfriend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Very's exhilarating. Very, it was really cute. And Siena,
Speaker 2: your last note is the cocksucker looks lit af looked fun.
Speaker 5: People are there every night, but they say people, Yeah,
Speaker 5: they'll all go there every night. There's a nice sense
Speaker 5: of community, certainly the cocksucker.
Speaker 1: I just want a big fat wiener in money. Do
Speaker 1: you think women are pretty? You're gay? We'll be right back.
Speaker 4: We're gay, you are gay?
Speaker 1: Well, Leonna. Let's move on to badges and trages.
Speaker 2: Yes, where we give badge our segment. Yes, this is
Speaker 2: our segment.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is our segment where we give badges for bisexuality, sexuality,
Speaker 1: being true to yourself, and trages for trying to change
Speaker 1: the people you love.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, a badge for they let Melanie be from
Speaker 2: New Zealand. I thought they were gonna make her do
Speaker 2: an American accent, because they always make her do an
Speaker 2: American they do exactly accent.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yay, badge for the cast. I
Speaker 1: love Natasha Leone and Ru Paul Are you kidding? Honestly?
Speaker 1: I love whenever he acts and things. I just watched
Speaker 1: the episode of broad City that he's in, and it's
Speaker 1: one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Still, Oh my gosh, talent, so funny. A badge for
Speaker 2: the color scheme. I really enjoyed the aesthetic of this
Speaker 2: film in that way. It reminded me of Lisa Frankenstein,
Speaker 2: which we watched for Patreon. But then I got a
Speaker 2: little spooked because Lisa Frankenstein was so spooky and it
Speaker 2: felt similar as wells that, like, I was thinking a
Speaker 2: lot about Lisa Frankenstein actually, and then I was like, eh,
Speaker 2: then I was like kissing his gross I was like,
Speaker 2: he's a monster. His penis fell off, uh ew, she
Speaker 2: had a.
Speaker 1: Sewe back on.
Speaker 2: Anyway, there they they commit so much to an aesthetic,
Speaker 2: and also I think I feel unsettled in these kind
Speaker 2: of surreal worlds that these movies create create, And then
Speaker 2: I get a little afraid that it's gonna get violent
Speaker 2: or like I get what you unhinged.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's this liminal space that I told you get that.
Speaker 1: It's like when you watch some adult animation, you're always
Speaker 1: waiting for it to become gross and violent, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like something about the actual it's this
Speaker 1: this uh aesthetic is used often in yeah or yeah thanks,
Speaker 1: so then you're.
Speaker 2: Expecting yeah, I do get that, but then they didn't,
Speaker 2: and so simply a badge for the Colors team.
Speaker 1: I'll give my badge now for art direction. I mean
Speaker 1: it's just really good, Like when she wakes up and
Speaker 1: she's on that pillow case that has like it's like
Speaker 1: cute sort of paper doll girls all over it, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all pink. I love their Another badge I have
Speaker 1: is for their room. Yeah pink, and they have the
Speaker 1: plastic pillowcases and it's just so cute and cool.
Speaker 2: I loved that purple room that they were in where
Speaker 2: it was all like purple corsets and stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, iconic.
Speaker 2: A badge for this movie is hilarious. There were so
Speaker 2: many hilarious moments in this, like when when the gay
Speaker 2: boys are playing football, I just let like you could
Speaker 2: really feel that there was there were queer creators making
Speaker 2: this and everybody was like having fun. Yeah, it just
Speaker 2: seemed like it was fun to make and everybody felt
Speaker 2: safe and they were. It was so tongue in cheek
Speaker 2: that it was like this is this is also for
Speaker 2: the girly, like this is for the gaze and by
Speaker 2: the game and of the gaze.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to live in a world I want
Speaker 1: to we have. We must preserve and protect queerness in
Speaker 1: this world, even when fascism is taking over. Please please, please.
Speaker 1: It is the beautiful thing about being alive. Badge for
Speaker 1: so cute. I was so much sweeter than I even expected.
Speaker 1: That was a real treat for me here. I thought
Speaker 1: it would be a lot more sort of I don't know,
Speaker 1: drag queen humor, which is to say, sort of a
Speaker 1: reverent you know yeah yeah yeah, and like really funny and.
Speaker 2: But there's like a biting nature to that type of humor.
Speaker 1: But it was just it was super sweet, Like it
Speaker 1: just ends with yeh, she does a cute cheer of
Speaker 1: like I love you, and then they kiss. It's really cute.
Speaker 2: I will give a final badge for community because I
Speaker 2: really loved that, like the x X gaye who have
Speaker 2: their own house and they come and they take them
Speaker 2: to the nightclub and they're like, we're just showing you,
Speaker 2: like what life could like, another option for what life
Speaker 2: could be. And that's where she goes when she has
Speaker 2: nowhere else to go. And I was like, damn, that
Speaker 2: is also very real, like that is the found family concept,
Speaker 2: and but it was in like a really nice and
Speaker 2: gentle way.
Speaker 1: It was really responsible about messages like that. Yeah, Badge
Speaker 1: for Andre I loved actor dancer homosexual. He was the
Speaker 1: one who was the most Yeah, when they're like supposed
Speaker 1: to be shooting and stuff's like.
Speaker 2: Ah he breaks in action.
Speaker 1: Half meant to be butch Oh my god. I loved
Speaker 1: him Badge for I thought the sex scene was really
Speaker 1: cute and really beautiful. I just love when women do
Speaker 1: sex scenes. They're just more intimate and less about showing
Speaker 1: things off to the to the audience. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: like it's just cute.
Speaker 2: Man. I don't know what's going on with me. Maybe
Speaker 2: I'm in my prude era, but I was just like,
Speaker 2: this is not hot. I don't think it was meant
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was meant to be.
Speaker 2: I think it's like it's teens kissing. Yeah, the whole
Speaker 2: time I was like, oh, and not because they're lesbians.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: I would have said that about anybody of any gender, sure,
Speaker 2: and any sexuality.
Speaker 1: Totally sure.
Speaker 2: I think it was, Yeah, it's not meant to be, like, hbo, you.
Speaker 1: Were already so turned off by their acting too and
Speaker 1: watching them kiss, You're like, I loved it. Then my
Speaker 1: final badges are, of course, I'll just say it one
Speaker 1: more time in case we cut it out. I just
Speaker 1: want a big fat wiener up. I thought that was
Speaker 1: so funny. And then my final bygees for that she
Speaker 1: loves cheerleading and then she gets to keep loving it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how she expresses herself because she's a cheerleader. Yes, finally, trages.
Speaker 2: Trage is trage for kissing. Sure, I guess is where
Speaker 2: I'm at right now? Do you know what it is? Also? Genuinely,
Speaker 2: every single time I go up the escalator from the
Speaker 2: tube at the station nearest my flat, someone is kissing.
Speaker 2: Well two people takes two to tango. People are kissing
Speaker 2: in front of me because for some reason, couples love
Speaker 2: to turn and face each other on the escalator and
Speaker 2: kiss right in front of me makes me want to
Speaker 2: jump into the Thames. And it happens every single te
Speaker 2: I hate it so much. I'm anti kissing right now.
Speaker 2: Stop kissing everybody, don't do it. I don't want to
Speaker 2: see that in that.
Speaker 1: Why are they? What is it about London that's making
Speaker 1: people smooch?
Speaker 2: I don't know, because also why won't they if clearly,
Speaker 2: if you're smooching hy, are none of you smooching me?
Speaker 1: Why don't you just turn around and plant one here?
Speaker 2: God? You know what it is? What I got the
Speaker 2: ick about my crush this week, and I think I'm
Speaker 2: just like mad in general totally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the ick is Listen, I understand where you're at.
Speaker 1: I've had icked moments, weeks, months, and it's just like
Speaker 1: everything is gross.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so confusing, it's so confused, a good girl.
Speaker 1: My main trage is that I looked up a picture
Speaker 1: of the director and her hair was so good. But
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, she has straight hair and I will
Speaker 1: never be able to have that haircut. But it is
Speaker 1: exactly the haircut I dream of having.
Speaker 2: Oh damn.
Speaker 1: It was like kind of like an easy semi mullet,
Speaker 1: but just like an easy, short, little chop.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry that happened, thank you. Yeah, I have
Speaker 2: a trage for being a woman sucks. Yeah. They're doing
Speaker 2: that thing of like, oh my god, yeah, discovering your
Speaker 2: gender role in society. And of course again it's all
Speaker 2: tongue in cheek, but the boys are learning what like
Speaker 2: men do in the world, and it's like chopping wood,
Speaker 2: grabbing their crotch and playing football with the boys. And
Speaker 2: the girls are learning what women do, and it's like
Speaker 2: maintaining the home. Have it like giving birth and then
Speaker 2: rearing a baby. My god, I was like, being a
Speaker 2: woman is awful. I had a nightmare last night about
Speaker 2: giving birth. I had a nightmare that I was agnant
Speaker 2: and I was like, guys, I.
Speaker 1: Really don't have this baby, and they're like, you're far along,
Speaker 1: you have to. It was terrifying.
Speaker 2: It's very very scary.
Speaker 1: Tho's all your trages.
Speaker 2: That's it. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's move on to our next segment, which is,
Speaker 1: of course, how to pretend you've seen this film.
Speaker 2: This is for you are.
Speaker 1: At a football game, m You're just there to see
Speaker 1: your friend the cheerleader do her athletic feats, but of
Speaker 1: course a lot of people are there for the football,
Speaker 1: as if that's any as if that takes nearly as
Speaker 1: much work as the cheerleading.
Speaker 2: And uh, what was her boyfriend's name, like Jonathan or something?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh, he was so creepy.
Speaker 2: Jared, Jared, Jared, and Jali.
Speaker 1: Comes Football's up to you and says, Hey, so glad
Speaker 1: you're here at my game, he said, can't wait to
Speaker 1: make out playing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to make out on you.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, he says, you know, being at this
Speaker 1: game always reminds me of for some reason he wants
Speaker 1: to tell you about. But I'm a cheerleader. Can you
Speaker 1: you're a girl? I think a lot of girls kind
Speaker 1: of like this. Maybe I'll impress you with this and
Speaker 1: then we can make out. I thought all the makeout
Speaker 1: scenes in that movie between the guys and the girls
Speaker 1: were really good, super hot. So maybe I'll impress you
Speaker 1: by telling you about this movie. You've probably never seen
Speaker 1: it before. It's kind of a cult cult movie.
Speaker 2: And in order to tackle Jared to the ground and
Speaker 2: out of this conversation, We're going to give you a
Speaker 2: few sentences you can say to pretend you've seen the film,
Speaker 2: but I'm a cheerleader. Yes, Jared, I've seen, but I'm
Speaker 2: a cheerleader. My favorite celebrity sighting in that film was
Speaker 2: the one, the only, Rufio from the Robin Williams version
Speaker 2: of Peter Pan.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: That of course is called hook. Oh that's what my.
Speaker 1: The Robin Williams Peter pan Yeah, my roommate said the
Speaker 1: same thing. And you know what I recognized him from.
Speaker 1: I was like, his voice is so familiar. He's Zuko
Speaker 1: from Avatar the Last Air Vibe.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, no, wonder Zuko is hot? Zuko is
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, who is the one with the
Speaker 2: face scar right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's hot?
Speaker 2: I was. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When I heard that voice, I'm like, why is this
Speaker 1: voice making me feel things?
Speaker 2: It's Rufio, the leader of the Last Boys, the hottest
Speaker 2: Last Boy.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I worry about Natasha Leone. Okay has
Speaker 1: a really cool vibe. But she has the vibe of
Speaker 1: somebody who had some like crazy teen years where she
Speaker 1: didn't have any supervision, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Okay, So is that like true or is that somebody else?
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, I feel like that's true. Don't she have
Speaker 2: stage parents or something.
Speaker 1: The fact that she was in this this young makes
Speaker 1: me think that she was one of those New York
Speaker 1: kids where they treat you like you're twenty five when
Speaker 1: you're thirteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well here's a piece of trivia for us. Yes, yes, Jared,
Speaker 1: I have seen, but I'm a cheerleader. Fun fact. The
Speaker 1: day before shooting, Natasha Leone had gotten drunk and was
Speaker 1: tattooed on her back shoulder at a shop on Hollywood Boulevard.
Speaker 1: The director was very upset because Natasha had to film
Speaker 1: scenes in a sports broad doing cheer routines the director.
Speaker 1: Now that I think about it, they don't really show
Speaker 1: her back, the director said. Uh. The director said to her,
Speaker 1: how could you do this? And Natasha responded, I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened. Oh oh god.
Speaker 2: Oh god. I'm about to clap back at Jared, but
Speaker 2: I'm interrupted by the cheerleaders going five, six, seven, eight.
Speaker 2: God is good, God is straight. I said, what happened
Speaker 2: to the separation of church and state?
Speaker 1: What happened to the superation of church and state? Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, Oh my gosh. Kathy Moriarty, who is the
Speaker 1: person who was from Raging Bull that we were talking
Speaker 1: about asks the character if she wants to be a
Speaker 1: Raging Bull Dyke. We already received an OSCAR nomination. Oh,
Speaker 1: poor girl for her role in Raging Bull.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I love that she did this though, that she came
Speaker 1: back and she's like, we're making this.
Speaker 2: She's had a long career, her IMDb Bush's career in
Speaker 2: Big Sleigh. Thank god Godging Bull wasn't like traumatic and
Speaker 2: stopped her want to do acting whatever. You know, maybe
Speaker 2: it was traumatic, but she pushed through. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh. Jared finally sachets Away back into
Speaker 2: the football game. Yes, And I say, ugh, what a
Speaker 2: I would never kiss that guy. And my friend says,
Speaker 2: it's really easy to be approved when you're not attracted
Speaker 2: to him, And I say.
Speaker 1: Oh, how dare you? Yes, Jared, I have seen but
Speaker 1: I'm a cheerleader. Cleo Duval and Natasha Leone appeared as
Speaker 1: guest judges on RuPaul's show Race in consecutive weeks. So much, well, Leanna,
Speaker 1: Let's move on to our next segment, which is, of course,
Speaker 1: should you watch us or where we tell you if
Speaker 1: you should watch this film or if you should do
Speaker 1: anything else?
Speaker 2: What do you think I would say, yes, you can watch,
Speaker 2: but I'm a cheerleader and be ready for yes very much, cult,
Speaker 2: classic vibes, specific aesthetic, a little bit, surreal, Uncanny Valley
Speaker 2: a little bit. And uh, you could also attend your
Speaker 2: nearest anti fascism march, because we have to keep up
Speaker 2: that energy even though we're tired and scared and sad.
Speaker 2: That's what they want, so we must not give it
Speaker 2: to them. That's what I would say, Ciana, what about you, I'd.
Speaker 1: Say, you can totally watch this movie. I loved it
Speaker 1: very very much. I think it is actually a great
Speaker 1: movie to watch.
Speaker 2: Please watch it, yay yay.
Speaker 1: And what would you?
Speaker 2: No? You first, what would you rate the film? But
Speaker 2: I'm a cheerleader.
Speaker 1: I am going to give this film five pomp Palms
Speaker 1: out of five.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 1: It was great. I loved every second cue honestly, six
Speaker 1: it was great. What about you?
Speaker 2: I will give the film three lavender corsets out of five.
Speaker 2: It's not my favorite, but I also don't think. I
Speaker 2: think it's just not my style, totally fair. It's not
Speaker 2: that I think it was like objectively bad. I think
Speaker 2: I'm just very subjective about it, and I think if
Speaker 2: it's a worthwhile watch.
Speaker 1: That makes sense. I mean it was way it was
Speaker 1: totally my style.
Speaker 2: That has to be everyone's and that's what being gay is,
Speaker 2: and that's what being gay is about. Again, that is
Speaker 2: what so you know for our large homophobic contingent is
Speaker 2: tuning in every week. That's been our review everybody of
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