1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to this edition of the Substack Live Warning. I 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: am with the one and only Michael Fanone. Michael Finone 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: is an important voice and an important man in this country. 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: And so let's start out by asking a question that 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: I want to put on the table, and it's what 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: does an American hero look like? Because you're looking at one. 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 1: There's a name that many people will know from this 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: podcast because there was a famous television series about Company 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: E of the five hundred and six Parachute Infantry regimen 10 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: of the one hundred and first Airborne Division that was 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: famously commanded by a man named Richard Winners from Pennsylvania. 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: And in that series, Dick Winners is reminiscing about his 13 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: experiences in the war as an old man, and he 14 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: recalls a letter that was written to one of his men, 15 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: and the question that his grandson had asked, was with 16 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: you a hero in the war? And the man paused 17 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: and he said no, But I served in the company 18 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: of heroes. And Michael Fenone is such a man, and 19 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: he served in the company of heroes who were viciously 20 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: attacked by a mob sent to tear down what Washington 21 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: imagined and created with humility what Lincoln saved with courage 22 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: and principle, what a million people have given their lives 23 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: to sacrifice, cutting it short so that people who have 24 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: not yet been born can be born in the tradition 25 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: of American freedom. Michael is the best of us. And 26 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: to welcome Michael Fanon, Thank you, and You're gonna make. 27 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: Me cry, man. 28 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 3: That was pretty Uh that's probably the best introduction I. 29 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: Think I've ever had. Thank you. I am deeply humbled. 30 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: You know we're gonna win this fight, right. 31 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: No, I do not. 32 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: We will win this fight. 33 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, like I'm I'm fighting because I'm a fighter. 34 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: I'm fighting because my family has been attacked and I'm 35 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: defending them, and you know, I'm in it until the 36 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: very end. But I don't share the confidence of of 37 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 3: people like yourself and and you know, Jim Acosta and 38 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: and and some of the others that that uh, you know, 39 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 3: I've come to know over the you know, the past years, 40 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: because I'm. 41 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: Experienced and continue to experience so. 42 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 3: Much cowardice in this country, and it's you know, it's 43 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: disheartening and at times it's it's even you know, caused 44 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: me to uh to take pause. 45 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 2: And wonder what, what the fuck what am I doing 46 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: this for? 47 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: And uh, but you know, again, like I said, I'm 48 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: defending my family. I'm defending my children. Uh, and I'm 49 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: you know, hopefully uh, holding on to democracy long enough 50 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: so that you know, the next generation will we'll get 51 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: to experience, uh, some of the freedoms that that I've 52 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: come to enjoy and expect from this country. 53 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna write about this conversation that I had with 54 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: my wife earlier in the next couple of days. I'm 55 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: going to Normandy next week and taking my mom there, 56 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: and my wife is Canadian. So my country is attacking 57 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: my family. Yep, my country is being attacked by its 58 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: president and his gangsters. Now this moment is testing your 59 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: faith because you are on the front line. And so 60 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: because you are on the front line, you are exposed 61 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 1: to a level of filth that is hard to explain 62 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: to people who have not been in the space of 63 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: Trump antagonism at the level that you have. And so 64 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: the abuse of your family and of your children, and 65 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: is somebody who had FBI agents at my house with 66 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: bomb threats some years ago, and the boxes of human shit, 67 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: and having had the experience of having to sell a 68 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: house where my children played because I made an assessment 69 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: that I couldn't defend the property. If I needed to 70 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: defend the property, I couldn't. I couldn't hold the ground. 71 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: The Associated Press accused me of being a grifter. They 72 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: said that I bought my house with money that I 73 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: had raised from ordinary people to fight Trump. 74 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: That was a lie, It wasn't true. 75 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: Fox News put the address of that house on television, 76 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: and that was all that was. And so it is 77 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: extraordinary to see the faithlessness all around you. I worked 78 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: in Republican politics, so every person I've ever known with 79 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:58,799 Speaker 1: a you can count on one hand right didn't believe 80 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: in any of the things right that you thought that 81 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: they believed in. But I think that Martin Luther King 82 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: has the answer for you, and I would encourage you 83 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: to read his last speech on the edge of his death, 84 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: and in that speech he clearly knows his end is 85 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: at hand. It is a prophetic speech and it really 86 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: has three parts to it. The first part of it is, 87 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: if the Good Lord let me go to any place 88 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: or time, where would I go? And he goes on 89 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: a tour and he takes his audience with him, I 90 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: would go to see God's people delivered from Pharaoh. Keep 91 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: on moving to ancient Rome and Greece and meet Aristotle 92 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: and Plato. But keep on moving. Go to Philadelphia in 93 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: seventeen seventy six. He keeps on moving, he says, because 94 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: he wouldn't choose to live in any other time than 95 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: the time that he lives in right now, because if 96 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: he did, he wouldn't have been able to be in Soelma, 97 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: and he wouldn't have been able to be in Montgomery, 98 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: and he wouldn't have been able to be in Memphis 99 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: with the striking sanitation workers. And he is a young man. 100 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: He's going to managed thirty nine years old. And then 101 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: he says, I want to grow old. Longevity has its purpose, 102 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: but that doesn't matter now because I've been to the mountaintop. 103 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: And he does not tell us when we will be 104 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: on that mountaintop, when the city on a hill is 105 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: fully constructed. And I believe in that vision, and I 106 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: want you to believe in that vision. I want you 107 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: to understand that you are like the man opposite the 108 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: man that Thomas Pain criticizes. There's a man that Thomas 109 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: Payne sees holding his child's hand at a town meeting, 110 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: and he says, my daughter, I must think of her. 111 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: We cannot have trouble. And Thomas Payne looks at that man. 112 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: He says, you are a selfish parent, because if there 113 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: must be trouble, let it be in our time, not 114 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: in our children's time. And for whatever reason, it has 115 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: tom in our time. And you're standing on that line. 116 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: And I want you to know how many people in 117 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: this country look up to you. Keep your faith, Michael, 118 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: keep your faith, Keep your faith in America. We will 119 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: win this fight. And I want all of you to 120 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: know we will win this fight. Now. Part of the 121 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: proper is a matter of strategy. Is the fascist is 122 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: always the aggressor. Right. It means that if you're a normal, democratic, 123 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: liberty loving American, you aren't expecting to be attacked by 124 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: your president, by his mob, by all of the Congressmen 125 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: and senators who work for us. But so it is, 126 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: and now we must fight. And so I want to 127 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: ask you, as you look ahead, what's Michael Fanone doing 128 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: for the next couple months? Right? How do you see it? 129 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: What are people saying to you out there? You still 130 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: when you doubt, don't get out of the fight. Abraham 131 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: Lincoln doubted, Winston Churchill doubt it, Martin Luther King doubted, 132 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: Michael Fanone doubts, Steve Schmidt doubts. But we don't stop fighting. 133 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: So let's talk about how you see the next couple 134 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: of months. 135 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, first, like, uh, listen. 136 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: They the Trump administration took the fight to me when 137 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 3: they pardoned you know, the five hundred and some odd 138 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 3: violent criminals that assaulted police officers like myself at the 139 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 3: Capitol on January sixth. 140 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: Like, they're the ones that you know that pick this fight. 141 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: And you know, I don't ever, ever, ever, uh walk 142 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: away or run from a fight. And so I'm in 143 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: this until the bitter end. They're either gonna have to 144 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 3: kill me or fucking get out of my country. Uh, 145 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: And so you don't have to worry about me disengaging. 146 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: You know, I'm in it now for the long haul. 147 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: You know. 148 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: That being said, it's there's moments in which you know, 149 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 3: you see like the capitulation, like first it was you know, 150 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 3: the Democratic Party, which has long since abandoned me. I 151 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 3: mean we're talking you know, years at this point, but 152 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 3: you know, seeing them in the aftermath of you know, 153 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: post November election just literally disappear. And then I start 154 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: to hear commentary like, well, what we need to do 155 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: is we just need to, you know, bide our time, 156 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 3: wait till the midterm elections and Trump is gonna you know, 157 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 3: destroy himself. Well, listen, that might work for you as 158 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 3: a politician, and that might be politically advantageous, but these 159 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: people are fucking destroying my life, and they're destroying millions 160 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 3: of americans lives, and we don't have two years to wait. 161 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 3: Not to mention the fact that I hate to break 162 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: it to you, but that's about the most uninspiring shit 163 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: that could possibly come out of a quote unquote leader mouth, 164 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 3: like let's just. 165 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: Buy our time and bear you know, Grinn and Barrett 166 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: for two years. 167 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 3: No, the fight needs to start now. It needed to 168 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 3: have started on day one. 169 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: And so for me, that's what it's all about. 170 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:21,479 Speaker 3: It's about expressing anger and outrage and inspiring other Americans 171 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: to express their anger and outrage about them more immorality 172 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: of this administration and the lawlessness of this administration. 173 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: Perfectly said, and I want everybody we got. We got 174 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred people with us. That number will climb and 175 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: we'll we'll share this to a broader audience. And what 176 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: I want Democratic partisans to understand and to lock in 177 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: on is something that Michael Fanone just said because I've 178 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: and with him on this. Michael was a cop. I 179 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: was a political consultant in my previous life, electing people. 180 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: So you know, we have different we have different experiences 181 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: right in life. I've been involved in a lot of 182 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: political campaigns, and I want to say something on top 183 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: of what Michael said to the leaders at a Democratic 184 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: National Committee, senators, members of Congress who have embraced his stupidity. 185 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: He just called out that will wait for two years. Yes, 186 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: he's correct about it being uninspiring, about that path being 187 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: a moral Ron Fournier, who writes convulsions on Substack, joined 188 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: last night another great substack platformer, urge you to be 189 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: on that. But what Ron Fournier pointed out is that 190 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: this condition that the country is in, it is not 191 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: remedied by the election of the other half of the 192 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: political DUOC league that's deeply responsible in the poor choice 193 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: that they offered for the election of this monstrosity that 194 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: has its hands around Lady Liberty's throat. And so with 195 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: regard to the idea that there's some cause of personal ambition, 196 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: whether it's mayor Pete or Gretchen Whitmer or Tim Walls 197 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: or any of these people. If you put the cause 198 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: of your self interest and the cause of your party's 199 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: power over the cause of this country's liberty, it's freedom 200 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: and as people, you will be annihilated and we will 201 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: not stand with you in the twenty twenty eight election. 202 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: We will not. We will not. There will never ever 203 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: be another instance in the this country. I personally and 204 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: I absolutely have the wherewithal to do this. I will 205 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: lead an effort and I will lead it to make 206 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: certain that the Democratic Party that will not fight for 207 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: this country does not take power, and that if they 208 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: wish to sentence us to death with their apathy and 209 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: their indifferent and their lack of fighting spirit and so 210 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: fucking bit, then we will die together. But we will 211 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: go into the ground together because there are millions of 212 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: Americans who aligned with the Democratic Party, and the Democratic 213 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: Party did not measure up, and the Democratic Party better 214 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: understand that they're going to meet us where we are 215 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: where they are. Is so the Democratic Party has disinvested 216 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: in this country in places where Michael Fenone's accent is 217 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: from I'm in Tulsa, Oklahoma tonight with Better with Rourke, 218 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you something, Andy Washington, politician out there 219 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: who thinks that Greshen Whitmer would be a better president, 220 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: standing here like a stooge against the wall in the 221 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: Oval office with Trump is he announces the political persecution 222 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: and the investigation is a Justice department against his critics 223 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: versus Better A Rourke who's playing in Tulsa, Oklahoma should 224 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: pull their head out of their ass immediately. Adam Kitzinger 225 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: has joined the conversation. He's out there another great American 226 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: patriot and hero. And let me say about Adam Kitzinger. 227 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: Adam Kitzinger's not afraid of Donald Trump, and so maybe 228 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: the next president ought to be someone who's not afraid 229 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump. As the pre eminent qualification has the 230 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: ability to speak at stemporaneously, has the ability to speak 231 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: with passion and conviction without twenty consultants telling them what 232 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: to do. And so Michael Fanone has the conviction of 233 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: a leader, and Michael Fanone has the heart of a patriot. 234 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: And what Michael Fanone just says is of the deepest importance. 235 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: I want. I wanted to ask you, Michael, just to 236 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: talk about the Capitol Building. You probably know that building 237 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: more completely thoroughly its history than ninety nine point nine 238 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: percent of a country of three hundred and fifty two 239 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 1: million people. And personally, I don't even think it's closed. 240 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: I think gets the most beautiful building in the United States. 241 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: It's a it's an incredible place, and I'd just like 242 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: to ask you to talk about what it was like 243 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: to work in a place that I know you held 244 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: as a cathedral. 245 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 3: Well, first I got to tell you, so I wasn't 246 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 3: a Capitol police officer. 247 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: I was a d C cop. And for those that 248 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 2: outside the DC. 249 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: Area that ye common the state. 250 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 3: There's seventy two law enforcement agencies that have police powers 251 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 3: in d C. The best way to describe DC Police 252 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: is where the uh, you know, we're the ones that 253 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 3: answer the phone when you call non number one. So 254 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 3: we're the traditional law enforcement agency. And that being said, 255 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 3: I was assigned to a narcotics unit. 256 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: Now I work. 257 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 3: I spent my entire career in narcotics. January sixth I 258 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 3: did something I hadn't done in almost two decades, which 259 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 3: is put a uniform on because I heard what was 260 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 3: happening at the Capitol, specifically to my friends and my colleagues, 261 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 3: and so I went there. I'm pretty unfamiliar with the 262 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 3: building itself, and I'll be honest with you, like I 263 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 3: I like I had in my youth a lot of 264 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: respect for the Institution of Congress, and this idea I 265 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: just see. 266 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 2: You know, when you talk about the people. 267 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 3: That went to the Capitol on January sixth and they 268 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 3: smeared shit on the walls, and they defecated and did 269 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 3: all these disgraceful, disgusting things, Well, in my mind, members 270 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 3: of Congress have been doing that proverbially for decades. 271 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: They've been. 272 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: Disparaging and disgracing and violating their oath to office uh and. 273 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: Using the American people to benefit themselves. And I get it. 274 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: It's not everybody. 275 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 3: No one wants to be painted under a broad brush, 276 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 3: but it's what we've come to understand. I mean, listen, 277 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: in a lot of cases, stereotypes are stereotypes. 278 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 2: For a reason. 279 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 3: And there's a reason why you know, Congress has like 280 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 3: a fucking single digit approval rating, and it's because we've 281 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 3: just simply come to accept this degradation of our Constitution 282 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 3: and of their commitment and obligation to their constituents into 283 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: this country. 284 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: So I'm a little embarrassed. I knew. I knew that 285 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: you were off duty and that you put your uniform on. 286 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: I knew that part of the story, but I did 287 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: not know that you were a Metro cop until until 288 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: you just said that who put his uniform on to 289 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: go stand with the Capitol police? I thought you were 290 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: an off duty Capital cop. That makes your story even 291 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: more incredible, right about running to the sound of the 292 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: gunfire and heading to the front. It is a remarkable 293 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: story of American leadership. And I just I just want 294 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: to say to people that, you know, one of the 295 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: problems that we have in the country is that there's 296 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: a false reading that conveys over the television about who 297 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: we are and what we show on CNN and the 298 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: cable channels. It is a collection of people, it's called 299 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: thirty people, and they all live within six or seven 300 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: blocks of each other, and in Washington, DC, and in 301 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: and in New York City, and they all know each other, 302 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: and they're they're all profoundly detached from reality, mostly like 303 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: kids fingers not you know, and he's on you know, 304 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: and he doesn't live in Washington, of. 305 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 4: Course, but you know, they're all careerists and strivers and 306 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 4: they're not on They're not on your side in any way, 307 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 4: shape or form, right, So they're weak, and they're vacillating, 308 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 4: and they're and they're full of shit. And so in 309 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 4: this moment when the country is under attack, and I 310 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 4: think it's important for Canadians to understand, I think it's 311 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 4: important for Europeans to understand, because they see a slice 312 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 4: of America that is corrupt, that's decadent, that's weak, and 313 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 4: it's just disgusting. 314 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: We are country filled. I want you all to look 315 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: at Michael Fanon's eyes. He's not backing down, and he's 316 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: not alone. We're a country filled with wild, funeral, fucking 317 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: people when it comes to the defense of our liberties 318 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: and our prerogatives, who have indulged this softness and decay 319 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: and corruptions and all of the proverbial shitting on the 320 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 1: floors in the walls that Michael talked about. But the 321 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: American people are not America's politicians. American's politicians who abuse 322 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:56,959 Speaker 1: the American people have taken an extraordinary license and trust 323 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: me to come up into it is gonna come Doe. Yeah, 324 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: and so I just known for Congress. I think you 325 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: should be in Congress. 326 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 3: Too. 327 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 2: Vote to run for Congress. 328 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: Well, that's part of it, that's part. 329 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: Of the problem. No, but I totally agree with you. 330 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 3: And you know, you said something the other day on 331 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 3: on Jim Acosta Show where you said, like, this is 332 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 3: going to be an American led you know, a movement 333 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: of the people. Uh, and the people are going to 334 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 3: push the political party, whether it's you know, I'm assuming 335 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: it's probably gonna be the Democratic Party because you know 336 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 3: that the Republican Party is infected with like stage four 337 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 3: terminal cancer that's inoperable. But it's going to be the 338 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 3: people pushing the Democratic Party to fight. 339 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 2: And I think, you know, unfortunately, there's a. 340 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 3: Lot of Democrats who, in this moment, I would hope 341 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: that they would be able to read the moment, but 342 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 3: they're not. They're not going to relinquish their power and 343 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 3: the prestige of their office. But people like Chuck Schumer, 344 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 3: like Chuck Schumer is a manager, he's not a leader, 345 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 3: he's not a fighter. He's not for this moment. You 346 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: could probably argue that he was never for any moment. 347 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 2: But these people need. 348 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 3: To step aside and allow someone to come up take 349 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 3: their place that's willing to put in the work and 350 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 3: fight on behalf of the American people. And to me, 351 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 3: what that looks like is opposing everything that this administration 352 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 3: puts forward. 353 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 2: Every bill. I don't care if it's a bill to 354 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: give every sick kid in this country a teddy bear. 355 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 3: No, because all you're doing is normalizing the cruelty inhumanity 356 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 3: and lawlessness of. 357 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 2: The Trump administration. 358 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 3: So to me, it has to be you know, I've 359 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 3: become a absolutist when it comes to these types of things. 360 00:25:53,800 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 3: You have to give no ground, advance, give no ground. 361 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: One hundred and ten percent. And so Gary passperof the 362 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: Grand Chess Master looked at what Chuck Schumer did and 363 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: talked about it. And Chuck Schumer's a tactician, not a strategist, 364 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: couldn't see the strategic necessity of opposing Trump to make 365 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: Trump fight, to deter Trump from the next aggression and 366 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: the next one after that, knowing that there will be 367 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: an incredible price to pay. I do think, Michael, that 368 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: if you run for Congress, first off, I'll help you. 369 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: We'll get a lot of help for you. We'll raise 370 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: a lot of money for you. You're exactly the type 371 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: of person that needs to be in political office. Chuck 372 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: Schumer is something else, and it's an important part. I 373 00:26:54,160 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: want to explain this. He's a monk. He's a cloistered man. 374 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: He's a guy who got sixteen hundred do his sa keys, 375 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: who could probably barely make it around the block by himself, right, 376 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: like one of those guys. Yeah right. He his experience, 377 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: his his cloistering. He has a worldview. That's Brooklyn, that's 378 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: the Delta shuttle, that's the Acella. That's his Senate hideaway. 379 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: That's his Senate office. That's the Capitol floor in the 380 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: members gym, that is Chuck Schumer's terrarium. That is his 381 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: polar bear cage at the National Zoo. And this cloistered 382 00:27:54,480 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: monk has done this for his entire life. He has 383 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: been in the state legislature and then in the Congress 384 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: and the Senate. And he's seventy five years old, and 385 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: his achievement in life is on the day he was 386 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: elected to the United States Senate. Never a perfect institution, 387 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: it was still the greatest deliberative body in the world, 388 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: and one hundred years from now, when people write books 389 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: free from all the passions of the day, the indictment 390 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: of Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell will be together and absolute, 391 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: and it will be they did it together. They wrecked 392 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: the greatest deliberative body in the world, and they turned 393 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: it into Trump's polyp Europe. And now after a week 394 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: of chaos, you see guys like John Barrasso from Wyoming 395 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: telling Trump he's a genius. And you've got members that 396 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: he administration literally wearing gold pins now on their lapels 397 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: of Trump's head exactly like the fewer pins that all 398 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: the Nazis wore or the Mao pins that all the 399 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: Chinese Communists wore. Is that we're going to be defeat 400 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: these people because of their discussing this, the corruption, the 401 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: stealing and all of this. But Chuck Schumer is Linda 402 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: Fernandez says, is too old and too weak, and we 403 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: need tough people, and so tough people like Michael Fanona 404 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: are the type of people you need in politics. You 405 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: needed to raise And what I want to say to 406 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: anybody out there right, we have two thousand people with us. 407 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: This is your year to run for office. This is it, right, 408 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: There are no safetys in America. One of the biggest 409 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: gip shits that the US tenant and I have to 410 00:29:54,600 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: say one of because it's an institution that whole old 411 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: Mark Wayne Mullen and Tommy Tubberville in the Saint Bobs 412 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: is which is impossible to conceive of. So I was 413 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: thinking about my first opening line in Tulsa tonight, and 414 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: I was thinking about is I'm Steve Schmidt and I've 415 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: come from New Jersey to tell. 416 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: You your senator is a fucking punk. 417 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: You don't like it, but but Mark Wayne Mullen is 418 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: beatable in Oklahoma in twenty twenty six because there's going 419 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: to be an uprising and the American people are gonna 420 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: say stop and push them out. And so there's gonna 421 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: be a lot of people, school teachers, you know, people 422 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: who are normal people, right, who are like, I don't 423 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: have the money, I can't do this, I can't face 424 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: off the and normally that's true, but not this year. 425 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: The exception every every rule and right there there is 426 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not a particularly religious person, right, but I'm 427 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: in my mid fifties now and I'm kind of at 428 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: that right like, should happen you hedge your bets, right like, 429 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: shit happens, right Like, shit happens for a reason, right 430 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: like at some level. And I'm like, this all cannot 431 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: be accidental that this is going down in the two 432 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: hundred and fiftieth ann of our career in the United States. 433 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: Who just cannot be right now, it's. 434 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: Coincidence. And I don't really believe in coincidences. 435 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, no, I mean listening, like, we're as a 436 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 3: nation were presented with a really unique opportunity that you know, 437 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 3: Trump brought brought to bear all the loopholes and weaknesses 438 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 3: in our democracy, uh, and and made them, you know, 439 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 3: so visible that you know, even the lowest information voter 440 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 3: can see them exactly, you know, for what they are. 441 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: Uh. 442 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 3: It's just up to us to decide if we're a 443 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 3: country that wants to you know, be led by con 444 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 3: men like Trump and allow them to exploit us, or 445 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 3: if we're going to push him in his movement out 446 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 3: of power and then close these loopholes, fix these problems. 447 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 2: And my biggest fear, and I was talking about this the. 448 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 3: Other day, was was that the Democratic Party would take 449 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 3: advantage of that opportunity uh, and not and just continue 450 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 3: on with the status quo and not utilize the opportunity 451 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 3: to close those loopholes allow for people like. 452 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: Myself to run for office. 453 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 3: You know, whatever happened to the reluctant politician and the 454 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 3: person that came into office, did their thing and then left, 455 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 3: You don't see a lot of that anymore. It's just perpetual, uh, 456 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 3: you know, politician. And how do you get to a 457 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 3: point where people have never really had a job other 458 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: than holding political office. 459 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: How the fuck do you relate to your constituents if 460 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: the only paycheck you've ever known is coming from the government. 461 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: I mean, it's to me, it's it's I don't want 462 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 2: to be represented by people like that. 463 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 3: I want to be represented by somebody that understands, you know, 464 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 3: my experience and you know what it's like to live 465 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 3: my life on a day to day basis, not live 466 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 3: in the bubble like Chuck Schumer's of the world, who 467 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know when was the last time 468 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 3: that guy ever had to look at his checking account 469 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 3: to make sure there was enough fucking money in there 470 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 3: to pay you know whatever, Bill. You know, we've been 471 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 3: talking a lot in the news lately about you know, 472 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 3: the whole economic crisis. And you know, listen, it doesn't 473 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 3: impact me because I don't have enough money to invest 474 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 3: in the market, but obviously prices going up does affect me. 475 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: And looking at you know, my. 476 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 3: Poor mother who's worked for the City of Alexandria her 477 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 3: entire life as a fucking child advocate in the juvenile 478 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 3: justice system, took a sixty six percent pension and you know, 479 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 3: relies on social Security and seeing the fear and the 480 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 3: stress and the turmoil in her life, like these are 481 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 3: all people that don't experience those things, don't understand them, 482 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,439 Speaker 3: and quite frankly, don't give a shit. 483 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: They don't give a shit, and they're not on your side. 484 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: And when we're talking about the numbers and what's going on, 485 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: I just want to so people can kind of understand 486 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: this the better because nobody knows what a billion is 487 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 1: and nobody knows what a trillion is. Right, you can't 488 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: you can't conceive of it. And so if I said 489 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: to Michael, so everybody knows, Isaac, Michael, there's a great substack. 490 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: I want to see you again. In a million seconds, 491 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: Michael and I we'd be back together. Twelve days from now. 492 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: If I said to Michael, I'll see you in a 493 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: billion seconds, that's thirty three years from now. That's the 494 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: difference between a million and a billion. Now. Elon Musk 495 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: doubled his net worth upon the election of Trump, who 496 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: he spent two hundred and thirty three million dollars electing 497 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: and was on a trajectory before the American people wrecked 498 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: his companies. And they have to be the world's first trillionaire. 499 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: If I said to Michael, I'll see you in a 500 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: trillion seconds, we would be alone, because that's thirty three 501 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: thousand years from now. That's what a trillion is. And 502 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:20,720 Speaker 1: this week Donald Trump wiped out ten trillion dollars of wealth, 503 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: and then he tipped off everybody around him that he 504 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: was going to make a political announcement that allowed his 505 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: cronies to effectively insider trade as the four oh one 506 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: k's of working people were wiped out. Now, going to 507 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: the moon is an engineering challenge flying there. Landing on 508 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: the moon is a piloting challenge. The decision of should 509 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: we go to the moon, that's politics. And so now 510 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: when we think about politics and the moon, we have 511 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: to break up Facebook. We have to break up these 512 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: big tech companies. We have to break up the monopolists. 513 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: The companies that first from Silicon Valley came after America's 514 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: kids with their algorithms, have turned predatory towards our democracy. 515 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: And we have oligarchs now with net worths that are 516 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: the equivalent of nation states. And so Elon's not going 517 00:37:51,160 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: to Mars, and these people like Mark Zuckerberg will be billionaires, 518 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: but they will lose their empires. They will lose their 519 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: empires because their empires attacked something that is far more 520 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: powerful than they can conceivably comprehend, and that's the American people. 521 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: And so there will have to be a revolution in 522 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: our politics that demands day one for the democrats. Ethics reform, 523 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: no more insider trading, no more stock trades, fundamental campaign 524 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: finance reform, ethics reform, all of it, breaking up the companies, 525 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:46,760 Speaker 1: a serious intellectual regimen that reestablishes government of the people, 526 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 1: by the people, from the people, and takes it away 527 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: from the gangsters who have seized it, weaponized it, and 528 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: turned it against the people who it was their honor 529 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: to serve and whose oaths they betrayed to the Constitution 530 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: and to all of us. Awfulness doesn't begin to describe it. 531 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. 532 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: So I want to come back with a lot of 533 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: people running for Congress. I think you should do it. 534 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 1: I think you should do it, and and and I 535 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: call me afterwards. There's a lot of people that will 536 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: help you. You'd be a great congressman, right, and we 537 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: need fifty more like them, and all of this would 538 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: stop in an instant because like in the end of 539 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: the day, you know, the number one issue is is 540 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: the character crisis that we have a lot of people 541 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: Michael are asking take ris inside the conversations you have 542 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: with cops and Trump. Right, So I get it, right, 543 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean I get the one thing that I've always 544 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: hated when I see a cop, right that that I 545 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: that that I that I don't like. And I've spoken 546 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: about this publicly for a couple of years for a 547 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: long time. I don't like seeing cops in like sheriffs 548 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: in like Riverside, California, hit it up like they're about 549 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: to roll into Fallujah, right on a on a on 550 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: a normal on a normal day. Right. You know a 551 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: police officer, right, you know who in the day to 552 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: day business should have spit shine shoes on, right, trousers, 553 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 1: creech shirt, badge should looked like a policeman. You want 554 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: to join the Navy Seals, right, you want to work 555 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: in a in a special tactical unit, in a in 556 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 1: a you know, in a in a city. You know, 557 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 1: uniform in the attire is different. But the militarization of police, right, 558 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 1: that all these police departments buying surplus military weapons right 559 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: from the Defense Department as a general proposition, right, not 560 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: for it? And so so to me, right, if you're 561 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: if you're a cop, right, you wanna you want to 562 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: have like kind of the best right of the best practices. So, 563 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, people talk about police reform, and somehow the 564 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: Democrats twist like we got to reform, right, police departments 565 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: in some places to defund the police, which is idiotic 566 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: and no one is for And if you're a cop, 567 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: I completely understand the offensiveness of that. What I want 568 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: to ask you, though, is the cops, right, who are 569 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: offended by that? Right? When you talk cop to cop, right, 570 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: and then you look at all these pardon criminals like 571 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: who assaulted hundreds of cops? What do the cops say, right, 572 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: who rationalize that who support Trump when they dismiss the 573 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: attacks by criminals on cops, you guys, like, how does 574 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:53,439 Speaker 1: that work inside the fraternity of peace officers of law 575 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: enforcement officers, right that? Because that there seems to me 576 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: like it's such a betrayal from those cops to you 577 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: guys who are assaulted by criminals that are then pardons. 578 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, first you've got to go back to. 579 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 3: You know, the go back to the statistics like eighty 580 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,320 Speaker 3: percent of law enforcement in this country supports Donald Trump. 581 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 3: Uh and I would even venture say eighty percent of 582 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 3: law enforcement in this country, you know, support of the 583 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 3: Republican Party before Donald Trump came along. And so if 584 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 3: you're a Republican as you know, especially over the past 585 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 3: like ten or fifteen years, you source your news from 586 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 3: certain outlets, and so most of those outlets didn't give 587 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 3: you an honest, you know, perspective on January sixth, And 588 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 3: they sure sure as hell weren't, you know, platforming people 589 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 3: like myself to tell you about the brutality and the 590 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 3: violence that we experienced that day. So there's a lot 591 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 3: of misinformation when it comes to that day itself. 592 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 2: And then also, you know, those same news outlets did. 593 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 3: A great job of demonizing and dehumanizing people like myself. 594 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 3: You know, listen, I'm somebody that voted for Donald Trump 595 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen. But yet because I became outspoken, and 596 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 3: because I spoke out about my experience on January sixth 597 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 3: and that of my colleagues, they immediately said I was 598 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 3: a left wing you know whatever, and that I was 599 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 3: spawned in a petri dish by Nancy Pelosi and Barack 600 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 3: Obama or some insane bullshit like that. And so, you know, 601 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 3: the moment I opened my mouth, a lot of cops 602 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 3: just turned it out or tuned it out. 603 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 2: The other thing is, you know. 604 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 3: We talk about kind of like the current state affairs, 605 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 3: and I always tell people that police officers, police departments 606 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 3: as institutions are not stewarts of our democracy. You know, 607 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,399 Speaker 3: I was a cop for twenty years. I can't even 608 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,280 Speaker 3: recall a single solitary time in which I thought about 609 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 3: my oath to the Constitution or the Constitution itself, or 610 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 3: had a conversation with a colleague about the Constitution until 611 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 3: after January sixth. It was only in the aftermath of 612 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 3: that attack on democracy that I started to think about 613 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 3: those things, and that that's ultimately what inspired me to 614 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 3: testify before Congress and the. 615 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 2: You know, Select Committee hearing. 616 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 3: And so that being said, most police officers have at best, 617 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 3: i'd say, an elementary school understanding of our constitution. 618 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 2: And so. 619 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 3: They're not thinking about a responsibility to protecting Americans' rights. 620 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 2: They're just thinking. 621 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 3: About putting bad people in bad places and their paramilitary organizations. 622 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 3: And so who's ever in charge of the country is 623 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 3: in charge of the police department. And while you you know, 624 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 3: you've seen in some of these other institutions like the DOJ, 625 00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,360 Speaker 3: a few people, few handfuls, who have said was happening 626 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 3: is wrong, it violates the Constitution. 627 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 2: I'm resigning or I'm just going to say no, and 628 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 2: they're going to have to fire me. 629 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 3: You know, you're not going to see the mass exodus 630 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 3: on behalf of law enforcement agencies. I mean, take ice, Prince. 631 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 3: What they're doing in this country today, in a lot 632 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 3: of cases is immoral and unethical and illegal, but yet 633 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 3: they do it. 634 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 2: And I've got it. 635 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 3: I hate to break it to you, America, but I 636 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 3: guarantee you a lot of these people are reveling in 637 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 3: their ability to now act freely because Donald Trump has 638 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 3: given them permission, and so you know, we're in a 639 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 3: really scary place. These institutions that we typically look at 640 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 3: to protect us and keep us safe, you know, they 641 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 3: work for Trump now. And so you know that is 642 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 3: of deep concern to myself, and I think it is 643 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,280 Speaker 3: to a lot of Americans, you know, when it comes 644 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 3: to the militarization of law enforcement. And this was the 645 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:05,240 Speaker 3: conversation I was having years before. Policing is a dangerous shop. 646 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 3: Cops lose their lives all the time. I've been to 647 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 3: countless police officer's funerals who died, you know, violently, whether 648 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 3: by gunfire, knives, whatever. And so I will never uh 649 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 3: deny a police officer or an agency the ability to 650 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 3: protect its officers with equipment. That being said, the way 651 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 3: that you deploy it on American soil should matter. 652 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 2: You know, my department had. 653 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,760 Speaker 3: Armored vehicles that we used, you know, for the SWAT 654 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 3: team and swat deployments, and I thought that, you know, 655 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 3: that was wholly appropriate. I mean, listen, these are that 656 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 3: were going up against violent criminals, many of whom have 657 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 3: already you know, murdered someone and are now awaiting law 658 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 3: enforcement's arrival. Uh And so that I saw is an 659 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:06,320 Speaker 3: appropriate situation. After January sixth, my world became very big. 660 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,240 Speaker 3: I started to see how other police departments utilize their equipment, 661 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 3: and you know, would take a tactical vehicle like that, 662 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 3: in an armored vehicle and just ride around a neighborhood 663 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 3: and use it as an intimidation tool. 664 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 2: That is not appropriate. Again, you know, this is America. 665 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 3: We have to accept that as law enforcement officers that 666 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,439 Speaker 3: we're dealing with Americans. Americans have rights no matter what 667 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 3: crimes they may have committed. 668 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,399 Speaker 2: We have the presumption of innocence, and we have a. 669 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 3: Process, and police officers are only step one in that process. 670 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 3: And so if we're not willing to embrace that, and 671 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,919 Speaker 3: we're not willing to adhere to that, you need. 672 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 2: To get the fuck out of that job and go 673 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:50,399 Speaker 2: do something the fuck else. 674 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 1: I was. I want to ask you a question about 675 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: what it means to be a man and about cowardice, 676 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 1: and just to define it and talk about it. And 677 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,880 Speaker 1: I swear to God everybody, this is a true story. 678 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna share real quick. So I grew up in 679 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 1: North Plainfield, New Jersey. If you grew up in North Plainfield, 680 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 1: New Jersey, and you were born in the year nineteen seventy. 681 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: Sometime in the early nineteen eighties, Donald Trump enters your 682 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: frontal lobe and he never leaves. He's been permanently there, 683 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,800 Speaker 1: a fixture of the New York tabloids, and so Trump 684 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: by nineteen eighty two, The Art of the Deal, Carolyn 685 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: rutt Levitt, you know, she says that, you know, the 686 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: people don't understand the Art of the Deal. The Art 687 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: of the Deal was a cheap board game made in China. 688 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 1: All right, it's a ghost writing book. There's no one 689 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 1: who can name any deals that Trump has ever done. 690 00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:00,040 Speaker 1: There are no deals. It's all like no, no, no 691 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 1: questions ever asked in the White House briefing room, like 692 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: can you name right, can you name the can you 693 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 1: name the deals? So I'm standing one day or sitting 694 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,359 Speaker 1: in the in the living room of our New Jersey home, 695 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,720 Speaker 1: and I'm like twelve, and and Trump was on TV. 696 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 1: And and my dad apropos of nothing with Trump on 697 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,240 Speaker 1: the TV. He goes, you see that guy. It's like, yeah, Dad, 698 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: he goes, never be like that fucking guy. Okay, And 699 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,919 Speaker 1: so like obviously like I listened to him, right, because 700 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm fifty four, right, and I the message the message 701 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 1: took right. So you're opposite in every conceivable way on 702 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 1: the character prism of Donald Trump into Yang. And there's 703 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 1: nothing that's like more disgusting to me than Lindsey Graham, 704 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: who I spent a year in my life with John 705 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: McCain running a around the country. I mean, like a 706 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 1: picture of him makes me vomit, right, that the cowardice 707 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 1: of all of these people. Can you talk about cowards 708 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 1: and about when you look someone in the eye, about 709 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, if you're talking to a fifteen year old kid, 710 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: seventeen year old young man, right, what it means to 711 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 1: be a man? Right, because because we don't have these, 712 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, Jim Acosta and I talked about it. Being 713 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,400 Speaker 1: a man doesn't mean being mean, doesn't mean being able 714 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 1: to bench press three hundred times. It means having some 715 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 1: fucking character. And so like your code, right, what is 716 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 1: the Michael Fanone code? 717 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,360 Speaker 3: I mean, well, if you want to talk about cowardice, 718 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you a story of an individual 719 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 3: that I think really does embody the word coward and 720 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 3: that's representative Andrew Clotte from Georgia. And I'll tell you 721 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 3: about my interaction with him. 722 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 1: How do we spell his name? Was the last name? 723 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 2: I think it's Clyde. 724 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Yeah, So Andrew. 725 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:14,720 Speaker 3: Clyde gained fame or infamy because he was the member 726 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 3: of Congress who, in the aftermath of January sixth said 727 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,280 Speaker 3: in a committee hearing that if you watch the footage 728 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 3: from that day, that January sixth looked like just another 729 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 3: tourist day at the Capitol. 730 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:28,720 Speaker 2: And that was a very. 731 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 3: Important moment in my life because prior to that, you know, 732 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,399 Speaker 3: I had done some media appearances, all of it which 733 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 3: had been you know, orchestrated by the Metropolitan Police Department, 734 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 3: and I was speaking in my official capacity. 735 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 736 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,880 Speaker 3: This was the moment in which I violated departmental policy. 737 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 3: I downloaded my body worn footage, body warned camera footage, 738 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 3: and I sent it to CNN to air on national television. 739 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 3: And the reason that I did that was because I 740 00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 3: felt I had an obligation. What I saw was the 741 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 3: whitewashing of what was happening that day, and it was 742 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:09,799 Speaker 3: disgraceful and it was disrespectful to every police officer that risked. 743 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 2: Their lives at the Capitol on January sixth, and so. 744 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 3: A few weeks later, I'm at the Capitol and I'm 745 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 3: walking around with Harry Dunn, and we were going to 746 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 3: several members of Congress's office, Republican members who had voted 747 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:31,360 Speaker 3: against awarding the Congressional Gold Medal to the Metropolitan Police 748 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,280 Speaker 3: Department and the United States Capitol Police for defending the Capitol. 749 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 3: One of the individuals on that list was Andrew Clyde. 750 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,399 Speaker 3: We went through his office. He wasn't there. As I'm 751 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,360 Speaker 3: walking through the halls, I happened to see him about 752 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,280 Speaker 3: to get on an elevator, and so I grabbed Harry. 753 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 2: I was like, hey, that's Andrew Clyde. 754 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,280 Speaker 3: We jumped on the elevator, and while we're riding the elevator, 755 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 3: I introduced myself to him and I said, hey, Congressman, 756 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 3: you know, my name is Michael. And at first, you know, 757 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,239 Speaker 3: his reaction was like, oh, you know, it's a it's 758 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:09,280 Speaker 3: a fan, and so he kind of extends his hand 759 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,360 Speaker 3: and then I said, I was a met Pom Police 760 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 3: Department officer who responds here on January sixth, and as 761 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,240 Speaker 3: a result of my efforts that day to defend the Capitol, 762 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,320 Speaker 3: I suffered a traumatic brain injury and a heart attack, 763 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 3: and I almost lost my life. And immediately he retracts. 764 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 3: He goes into the corner of the elevator and turns 765 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 3: away from the. 766 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 2: Two of us. My hand is extended to shake his. 767 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 2: He doesn't. He pulls out his phone and he. 768 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,839 Speaker 3: Flips to the camera and turns on the recorder so 769 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 3: he can record what I assumed he thought might be 770 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 3: some kind of violent fucking confrontation, as if I'm gonna 771 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 3: go to jail for that pussy, And he hits all 772 00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 3: the buttons on the elevator, gets off at the first 773 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 3: floor and runs, I mean runs out full sprint. 774 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 2: That is a coward. 775 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 1: He had all. 776 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 5: The balls in the world to go on some video 777 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 5: recording congressional hearing and say all types of inflammatory lies 778 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 5: and bullshit, disrespecting. 779 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 3: And dishonoring police officers. But when he's confronted with run, 780 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,399 Speaker 3: he runs like a bitch. And that's really what these 781 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 3: people are. Most of these members of Congress, the ones 782 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 3: that I've come in contact with, they feel insulated within 783 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 3: the halls of Congress. I could say whatever I want, 784 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,879 Speaker 3: I could do whatever i want because I'm protected by 785 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 3: the Capitol Police. And nobody is going to come up 786 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 3: here and confront me. But when we do, they run away. 787 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 3: And so I think that that's what needs to happen 788 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 3: in this country, is that these people need to be confronted. 789 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,719 Speaker 1: All the time, NonStop, all the time. And to that 790 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 1: capital switchboard number everyone two O two two two five 791 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:20,919 Speaker 1: three one two one two O two two two four 792 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,839 Speaker 1: three one two one. I think the two two five 793 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,399 Speaker 1: works too, but two four three one two one. When 794 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 1: the operator answers, say Congressman Clyde's office and call and 795 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: say you just heard the testimony of Michael Fanone about 796 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 1: his cowardice, and you wanted to register as an American. 797 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,279 Speaker 1: You are disdained for it. Say you don't want anything 798 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 1: from Congressman Clyde other than his resignation and some contemplation 799 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: of his disgrace. We're coming up on the hour, and 800 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: I want to give Michael the last words here to 801 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 1: say whatever he once. But I have shared a story 802 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,719 Speaker 1: over the last couple of days that I heard on 803 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 1: a call with two friends of mine, Bettowa Rourke and 804 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: the Bishop William Barber, a very important man. And I'll 805 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 1: have some more on some of that in a little 806 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:27,440 Speaker 1: bit but Bishop Barber told me a story, and I 807 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 1: want to tell you this story, and some other people 808 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,840 Speaker 1: may have heard it, and it's a story about doubt. 809 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:42,839 Speaker 1: And so in eighteen fifty seven, the abolitionist movement had 810 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 1: a terrible setback and it was at the hands of 811 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:51,840 Speaker 1: a terrible Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court ruled on 812 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:57,799 Speaker 1: the dread Scott decision. And Frederick Douglas, who is the 813 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,799 Speaker 1: most important Black American along with Harriet Tubman of the 814 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 1: of the nineteenth century in the pursuit of justice and 815 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 1: and and freedom in this in this phase, is deeply depressed. 816 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 1: And Harriet Tubman comes up to her friend Frederick Douglas, 817 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 1: and she sees that he is very down, but she 818 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 1: doesn't approach him with hugs and sugar. She just says, 819 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 1: Frederick is God dead. And the question is put to 820 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 1: Frederick Douglass like that, because she knows what his beliefs 821 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 1: are and what his standards are, and she knows he's 822 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 1: a very faithful man, and he gets it in an instant. 823 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 1: He has gotten down, and he holds himself guilty of idolatry. 824 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 1: He put his faith in men for his faith in 825 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 1: these institutions that failed, and so he immediately realizes that 826 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,440 Speaker 1: he's got to give a speech because she snapped him 827 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 1: out of it, and so he goes and he gives 828 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,280 Speaker 1: us speech. In this first half the speech, he decries 829 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 1: the decision, but then in the second part of it 830 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:25,919 Speaker 1: he says, maybe, just maybe, in ways we can't see 831 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 1: or know that this decision, this evil decision, is a 832 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:40,479 Speaker 1: necessitous link in a chain of events that has set 833 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 1: in motion the downfall of the whole rotten enterprise. And 834 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 1: so we're going through a time of testing crisis in 835 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 1: this country that is amongst the most acute the country's 836 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 1: ever been in. This is a great crisis, the Civil War, 837 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 1: the Second World War. We are in a state of 838 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 1: American crisis. And when we think about crisis and we 839 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 1: watch a World War two movie, or we watch fand 840 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 1: of Brothers, at the most, it lasts for ten hours. 841 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 1: The truth of the matter is during these periods, nobody 842 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 1: knew what the resolution would be. World War Two went 843 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,120 Speaker 1: on twenty four hours a day, seven days a week, 844 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty five days a year until it 845 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,840 Speaker 1: was over. Same with the Civil War. The length of 846 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 1: a year in nineteen forty two is the same as 847 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,920 Speaker 1: it was in twenty twenty five, right, And so we're 848 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 1: gonna go through this. There's gonna be weddings, and there's 849 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 1: gonna be funerals, and there's gonna be sad days and 850 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 1: happy days. People are gonna live through this, and people 851 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 1: are gonn laugh through this. And we need to be 852 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: a joyful opposition everybody that's tough as fucking nouns, and 853 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,160 Speaker 1: we will be, and we will be because I think 854 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 1: we're animated at the core in an opposition in this 855 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 1: country to this by the character of men like Michael Fanone, 856 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,920 Speaker 1: not the softness of men like Chuck Schumer. And so 857 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:30,040 Speaker 1: we will fight, we will stand up, and we will 858 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: defend the Republic. And it's gonna take hard people, men 859 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 1: and women to defend this country. Michael Fanon is one 860 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,920 Speaker 1: of those people. I want to give him the last 861 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 1: word to talk about what's going to be required to 862 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 1: say whatever you'd like, And I just want to say, 863 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,400 Speaker 1: lan are having you on with me, and I admire 864 01:00:55,520 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 1: you beyond any measure to say. And in those moments 865 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 1: when you feel down, you feel low, you're like, what's happening? 866 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,600 Speaker 1: Why this happen? Are you? You've been called to fight 867 01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,240 Speaker 1: for your country. And I can't tell you why, but 868 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,200 Speaker 1: I just know this. I know there's a lot of 869 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: people who won't give up so long as they keep 870 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 1: hearing from you. That's a good thing. Thank you, Michael, phenomenal. 871 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean, I appreciate it. I appreciate you 872 01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 3: taking the time. I'm also a you know, longtime admirer. 873 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 3: And I'll tell you, like, you know, after the election, 874 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,600 Speaker 3: I think was the real test in this country and 875 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,400 Speaker 3: in which people were going to be strong enough to 876 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,160 Speaker 3: stand up and which ones were going to you know, 877 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 3: push on and fight and which ones were just going 878 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 3: to you know, fall. 879 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 2: By the wayside. And so you know, I do take 880 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:52,120 Speaker 2: a lot of my. 881 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:57,200 Speaker 3: Inspiration from the community that has you know, formed people 882 01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 3: like you, people like Jim Acosta, uh, you know, even 883 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 3: crazy Mike Cohen and and and the lot. And it's like, yeah, no, 884 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 3: I mean that's where you know, when I when I 885 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,720 Speaker 3: feel like, uh shit, I watch one of your substacks 886 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 3: and and uh and I feel like I can get 887 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:18,160 Speaker 3: back in it. And then also you know, I listen, 888 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 3: I've I've come to accept the fact that like throughout history, 889 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 3: specifically the history of this country, you know, there have 890 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 3: been movements against you know, whether it was class war 891 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,320 Speaker 3: or uh, you know, civil rights movement and the fight 892 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 3: against racial injustice and oppression in this country, uh, all 893 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 3: the way up until today where we're you know, literally 894 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:45,920 Speaker 3: fighting a fascist overtaking of our democracy. UH. And oftentimes 895 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,480 Speaker 3: people that that rise up in those movements don't get to. 896 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 2: Live to see the fruits of their label labor. 897 01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:58,960 Speaker 3: And while I hope to enjoy the fruits of my labor, 898 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 3: I've come to accept the fact that, like, I want 899 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,560 Speaker 3: to play my part, and I want to fight. 900 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:06,640 Speaker 2: Uh. 901 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 3: And if for no other reason, then, you know, then 902 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 3: my children get to, you know, like I said at 903 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 3: the beginning, and enjoy the freedoms that, at least for 904 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 3: a time, I was able to enjoy as an American. 905 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 1: Winston Churchill had a line in the darkest days of 906 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,800 Speaker 1: World War two, a challenge you put it to the Nazis. 907 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 1: He said, you do your worst, and we shall do 908 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:36,360 Speaker 1: our best. And with that great to spend an hour 909 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,880 Speaker 1: with a true American hero, the one and only Michael Fann. 910 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 2: Thank you, Steve, thank you. 911 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm Steve Schmidt. This is the warning I invite you 912 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:50,080 Speaker 1: to join this community where I promise to be honest, blunt, 913 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:54,040 Speaker 1: and direct about what is happening in this country. America 914 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 1: is in crisis. Follow and subscribe to this channel and 915 01:03:58,160 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 1: on substack. Thank you,