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Speaker 1: Native lampod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership with

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Speaker 1: Reason Choice Media. All right, what's up, everybody, it's your

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Speaker 1: favorite podcast, Native Lampard and I'm Andrew Gillam sharing this

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Speaker 1: wonderful stage with my beautiful co host Angela Rye. Butcari Sellers.

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Speaker 1: Angela Rye, Oh again, two of you're such a big personality,

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Speaker 1: a tivity Cross. Do it over?

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Speaker 2: No, we're not doing it.

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Speaker 3: We're not doing it over because at dinner last week,

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Speaker 3: I want you to know, Tiffany Cross looked me dead

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Speaker 3: in the face, dead in the face.

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Speaker 2: You said, Andrew, what you ordered? What you order? You know,

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Speaker 2: we're not doing it over, you know.

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Speaker 4: Like this, And I was like, what's the problem. I

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Speaker 4: didn't even realize, I said, he flipped me off, y'all.

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Speaker 5: And listening, she flicked everybody off.

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Speaker 1: Just in that case, we will not be doing your

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Speaker 1: introductions over. But this is episode one and four and

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Speaker 1: I I am here with TeV Bacari and Angela Raie

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Speaker 1: and we're happy to be with you as we recount

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Speaker 1: the days of passing future. And more importantly, we've got

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Speaker 1: some I think some great content coming up, y'all. What's

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Speaker 1: on your mind, Angela, tiff.

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Speaker 3: Well, for me, I mean I just think that that

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Speaker 3: Democrats had an amazing week. I mean, you can't count

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Speaker 3: a race that Democrats lost in the elections. But what

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Speaker 3: are the lessons that we take from them?

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Speaker 2: Can you repeat them?

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Speaker 3: I think my answers no, but we'll see what happened

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Speaker 3: ansteresting what you got.

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Speaker 5: I also want to talk elections.

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Speaker 6: I had the opportunity this week to sit down with

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Speaker 6: our vice president. My vice president still because I don't

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Speaker 6: know about this new one, Kamala Harris, she toured to

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Speaker 6: Seattle in the Pacific Northwest. So happy to highlight that

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Speaker 6: briefly and whatever else y'all want to talk about.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready for That was big news, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: hit that more. We're not gonna glance so that, Tiffany,

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Speaker 1: what do you have landing the plane?

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Speaker 4: I'm really excited to talk to our guests. We have

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Speaker 4: a guest today, Karine Jean Pierre, who had the privilege

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Speaker 4: of being the first black woman and takes the podium

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Speaker 4: at the White House doing those daily press briefings. So

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Speaker 4: I have a lot of questions for her, but also

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Speaker 4: excited to hear from you. Listening at home and watching

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Speaker 4: at home. We have a couple of viewer questions that

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, I'm excited about those your questions as well.

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Speaker 1: One of them I think a little bit refreshing, off topic,

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Speaker 1: different topic, rather but important. Nonetheless, those sound good, y'all.

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Speaker 1: So let's get into this thing, all right, y'all. We

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Speaker 1: tell you at the top of the show that we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a very very special guest. And here she is,

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Speaker 1: indeed the history making first time African American woman to

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Speaker 1: serve as Press secretary, the voice, the representative voice on

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Speaker 1: a daily basis, coming into your homes and radio and

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Speaker 1: wherever else she can pour it into. On behalf of

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Speaker 1: the President of the United States, Joe Biden. I think

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Speaker 1: got her start in the White House under President Barack Obama,

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Speaker 1: and now Miss Jean Pierre is a published author. I

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Speaker 1: met her back when during her days that move on,

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Speaker 1: I think it was, and then and then organizing days

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Speaker 1: when we all work together, and now we are a privileged, privileged,

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Speaker 1: privileged to welcome you to this platform. Native Lampard, Welcome

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Speaker 1: Karine Jean Pierre, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 7: Hello, Hi everybody, Thank you for having me, and congratulations

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Speaker 7: on the expansion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we we have added a fighter ever since she

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Speaker 1: joined us, you know, having us in fights.

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Speaker 3: No, I just think I think I think she was

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Speaker 3: using an expansion with just the most positive, positive tone.

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Speaker 1: Pos Your season is not over here exactly.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we literally won elections last night because of

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Speaker 3: my addition.

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Speaker 2: But we'll talk about that.

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Speaker 4: Oh, thank you, Jesus, Thank you Jesus.

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Speaker 5: Now we went from Beyonce Jesus.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, we are. But in case you forget,

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Speaker 1: his name is Bacar, you can always call him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what he saw this. He was the Beyonce

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Speaker 2: Listen, we're here now, we're here now with great success.

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Speaker 7: Is that so you're talking about like the jealousy on you.

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Speaker 2: You know what, we can have a whole episode about this,

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Speaker 2: you understand. Thank you.

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Speaker 6: Finally somebody that you know, I didn't expect that the

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Speaker 6: first black woman press secretary we joined the podcast with

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Speaker 1: It's least not a press secretary that was that wasn't

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Speaker 1: working for trumpsation.

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Speaker 8: That's right.

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Speaker 4: I'm just trying. I'm just trying.

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Speaker 5: We got some questions, We got some questions. Force.

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Speaker 4: We know you have a business schedule.

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Speaker 5: We want to hop right into this interview.

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Speaker 1: Andrew, I know you want to us well what I

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Speaker 1: want to let you and the throes of it all,

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Speaker 1: because I know you've done a million interviews and led

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Speaker 1: a million and all kinds. I'm very curious in the

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Speaker 1: book touring experience up to this point, what are you

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Speaker 1: most surprised has not been dug further into that you

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Speaker 7: That's such a good question because yes, I talk about

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Speaker 7: a particular period of time during last year, which you know,

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Speaker 7: which I talk about in a very personal way. Yes,

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Speaker 7: I make a big announcement about my political affiliation. But

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Speaker 7: there is a chapter about black women called Sisterhood. By

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Speaker 7: the way, I mentioned Angela isn't in there, and I

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Speaker 7: talk about the state of the people and everything that

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Speaker 7: have a chapter called Sisterhood on black women. It's like

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Speaker 7: my love letter to black women and everything that we

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Speaker 7: have done for the party, for this country, for our community.

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Speaker 7: And I talk about Australia Chisom, I talk about some

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Speaker 7: have a chapter of misinformation disinformation, I have a chapter

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Speaker 7: on the media, and a good part of the book

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Speaker 7: is really how to move forward. And there is a

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Speaker 7: misconception I am not telling people to not get involved.

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Speaker 7: I'm actually trying to push people to get involved. And

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Speaker 7: the way that I'm trying to it's nuanced, and I

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Speaker 8: What I'm pushing for is.

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Speaker 7: To people to be independent thinkers and to think about

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Speaker 7: it is very difficult. The political discourse is such that

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Speaker 7: And one of the things that I have been doing

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Speaker 7: and we can't rebuild it the same way. So there's

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Speaker 8: The future for all of us.

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Speaker 7: So those are the pieces that I was hoping that

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Speaker 1: Well, certainly that's not that's not where.

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Speaker 7: The interview interviews with the interviews, not with people out there.

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Speaker 1: In the world right right right what there was a

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Speaker 6: I wanted to touch base just on elections. So this

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Speaker 5: And I wonder how.

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Speaker 6: You feel these are election results square with your perspective.

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Speaker 6: There are a number of people who are saying, you know,

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Speaker 6: You, you know how you think that these election results

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Speaker 7: the book. And you know, I also didn't want people

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Speaker 7: to think they were living rent free in my head,

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Speaker 7: you know, I wanted to just like we went through,

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Speaker 7: we went past it. But I also felt like this

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Speaker 7: moment that we were in right now was so critical

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Speaker 7: and so important that we had I had to for

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Speaker 7: myself get past it, and I had. But I wanted

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Speaker 7: to tell my story in the quickest, easiest way, but

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Speaker 7: also highlight something that happens to so many of us,

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Speaker 7: whether were women, women of color, black women, or been othered.

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Speaker 7: It is not an unusual story. It is something that

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Speaker 7: lives with people every single day. But then I also

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Speaker 7: wanted to move past it, you know, and some people

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Speaker 7: I didn't mention is because I didn't want to give them.

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Speaker 7: I didn't want them in my book. I didn't want

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Speaker 7: to name them in my book. You know, I didn't

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Speaker 7: want to give them that. So anyway, there was a

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Speaker 7: there was I did think about that. I did really didn't,

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Speaker 7: and I was like, you know what, I don't want

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Speaker 7: them in my book. I'm going to try and move

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Speaker 7: by this. But I also want to tell this story because.

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Speaker 3: It's important for people to real quick question for me

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Speaker 3: and kind of to put a button on this conversation.

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Speaker 3: I think that you are a heroin a trailblazer and

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Speaker 3: down South we say give people their flowers while they're living,

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Speaker 3: and your accomplishment is something that I want say to

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Speaker 3: be able to read about in schools one day, because

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're just a badass woman.

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Speaker 2: You need to hear that.

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Speaker 3: How do we analyze watching the animus from all sides

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Speaker 3: against my homegirl, Kamala Harris, just three hundred and sixty

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Speaker 3: five days ago, versus the success you had in Detroit, Syracuse, Albany,

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Speaker 3: New Jersey, Virginia, New Orleans, Charlotte. You saw women win

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Speaker 3: all across the country yesterday. What what what am? I?

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Speaker 3: And I guess this question is for Tiffany and Angela

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Speaker 3: as well. But what am I taking away from that?

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Speaker 3: Because after after Kamla got beat, I was told that,

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Speaker 3: you know, we shouldn't have another woman run, we should

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Speaker 3: stay away from people of color. Then last night you

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Speaker 3: saw white women win, you saw black women win. You

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Speaker 3: saw Helena Moreno win in New Orleans just recently. And

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Speaker 3: I said last night, Tiffany's gonna fight me. But this week,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm trying to say, I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: speak podcast language. And we saw women do extremely well

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Speaker 3: all across the map.

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Speaker 2: So how do I.

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Speaker 3: Juxtapose those two elections that just happened three hundred and

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Speaker 3: sixty five days apart.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I would love to hear from Tiffany and

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Speaker 7: Angela too, because I know they're experts on having their

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Speaker 7: finger on the pulse in the moment. And look, you

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Speaker 7: saw what black women mayors just across the country making history.

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Speaker 7: And look, I think we're in a different moment.

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Speaker 8: I really do.

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Speaker 7: I think people are afraid. I think people are scared.

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Speaker 7: People are reacting to twenty twenty four. People are reacting

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Speaker 7: to this moment that we're in with the disaster, the

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Speaker 7: fear that folks are living with every single day. I mean,

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Speaker 7: some folks are going about to lose their snaps. I mean,

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Speaker 7: you know, their programs that people really need in their community,

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Speaker 7: and this administration doesn't seem to care. They just don't

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Speaker 7: seem to care. And I would say last year, there

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Speaker 7: was so many things playing into this. There was the incumbency,

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Speaker 7: There was the one hundred and seven days that she had

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Speaker 7: to do this. I think there was the Democratic Party

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Speaker 7: was not aligned. They were not aligned behind her in

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Speaker 7: the beginning. It took a minute for them to get

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Speaker 7: behind her. Think you had you know, you had misogyny, racism, sexism,

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Speaker 7: all of that with Donald Trump, you know, being the

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Speaker 7: megaphone for it, and people wanted something different. We weren't

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Speaker 7: in touch on the economy, We weren't. We just were

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Speaker 7: not connecting with people. So there were things that were

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Speaker 7: happening that we just missed, we missed. And I think

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Speaker 7: Kamala Harris Vice president. Harris did a phenomenal job in

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Speaker 7: those one one hundred and seven days that she had

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Speaker 7: a phenomenal job, and sadly it was just not enough

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Speaker 7: for some people.

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Speaker 5: And you know, that is.

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Speaker 7: Part of the book that I talk about the reasons

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Speaker 7: what happened in twenty twenty four, the disappointment that I saw,

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Speaker 7: and you know now now there is a reaction to

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Speaker 7: where we are in twenty twenty five Project twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 7: and forty eight percent of that is done in just

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Speaker 7: ten months, and that's hurting people, and people feel that.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I would love to hear from Angela and

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Speaker 7: Tiffany because I'm curious to hear what they think as well. Well.

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Speaker 4: I would say, you know, the punditry class does not

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Speaker 4: America make you know, again, the same way that you

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Speaker 4: have in campaigns, white consultants who are getting paid a

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Speaker 4: lot of money every month advising candidates on how they

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Speaker 4: should maneuver their fingers are not on the pulse. The

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Speaker 4: same way that you have a very the relics of campaigns,

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Speaker 4: a very white landscape in media, going to people like

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Speaker 4: James Carville, who quite frankly hasn't you know, it's not

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Speaker 4: necessarily the person who's who I'd want to talk to

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Speaker 4: about what tomorrow looks like gives ill advice. I think

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Speaker 4: it is. It is an institution, an anachronistic institution that

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Speaker 4: is having trouble keeping up with a diverse, multi ethnic

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Speaker 4: democracy that they quite frankly served as gatekeepers and were

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Speaker 4: not ready to engage. I don't know anybody who sits

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Speaker 4: around and says, oh, did you see what so and

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Speaker 4: so said on Meet the Press on Sunday? Or did

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Speaker 4: you hear from from this person on Good Morning America.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just a new landscape. On the flip

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Speaker 4: side of that, however, I will say, in terms of

544
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Speaker 4: engaging podcasts, there is some danger. Everyone with the podcast

545
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Speaker 4: is not a political expert, So candidates should go everywhere

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Speaker 4: whether they're a political expert or not. The media has

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Speaker 4: to stop engaging people who are not experts and most

548
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Speaker 4: of the time don't know what they're talking about, and

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Speaker 4: giving them a microphone asking people who have never worked

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Speaker 4: on a campaign. They're there day in their whole life,

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Speaker 4: but because they have a big following, oh what's your attitude?

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Speaker 4: What what do candidates need to do for black voters

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Speaker 4: right now? So it's a double problem, a double headed snake.

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Speaker 4: I would say, that's quickly rendering a whole lot of

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Speaker 4: people less relevant and possibly escalating people to positions they

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Speaker 4: have not earned.

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Speaker 5: I'm on mute, I'm mute.

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Speaker 2: So I was saying thank you. I was.

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Speaker 5: I was.

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Speaker 3: Both of y'all are giving me something that something that

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Speaker 3: you from from what happened this week.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Angela, Nope.

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Speaker 6: I would like to associate myself with my coll remarks

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Speaker 6: and shout out to all of the black women who

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Speaker 6: made history, who ran because somebody said they can't. And

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Speaker 6: I also, I just think it's important for us to

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Speaker 6: also dissect at some point, speaking of this big tent,

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Speaker 6: why it's okay for white women to run and win

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Speaker 6: statewide versus Black women who do the same and run

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Speaker 6: into a lot of problems the party, the saying that

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Speaker 6: they're not formidable enough, they're not going to be competitive,

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Speaker 6: et cetera. So I want to have that conversation at

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Speaker 6: some point too in what bars we put in place,

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Speaker 6: guardrails and gatekeeping I think are different and we need

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Speaker 6: to figure that out.

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Speaker 5: I will shout out.

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Speaker 6: I won't say this is the only compliment James Carvill

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Speaker 6: will probably ever get from me.

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Speaker 5: He was right about of Donnie. Okay, he got it

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Speaker 5: right off and Donne.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what Van Jones was talking about, but

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Speaker 6: he was right about Donnie. So that's all I want

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Speaker 6: to say about James Carfield. Other than that tip, I

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Speaker 6: generally agree.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we should not be possible, that's what it's like.

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Speaker 1: No, we should not y blessed by your voice, your example,

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Speaker 1: and your service. At some point, mostly because I wanted

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Speaker 1: to avoid myself asking this question about Joe Biden specifically,

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Speaker 1: but at some point, I do think for the annals

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Speaker 1: of history and so that future generations and those even

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Speaker 1: of us in this generation who still perform in the future.

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Speaker 2: Will.

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Speaker 1: Look back on history and take the right examples from it.

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Speaker 1: I do think it is important that people like you

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Speaker 1: who were on the inside to state their word, to

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Speaker 1: state their experience, whatever it may have been, on what

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Speaker 1: happened during that period, because the American people deserve it.

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Speaker 1: But more importantly, it ought to be of service to

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Speaker 1: history so that we don't repeat the mistakes of the past.

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Speaker 1: I'll that's really all I'll say about going back and

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Speaker 1: rebirthing that experience during jump here is that as you

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Speaker 1: go around, continue to speak it, and to speak it

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Speaker 1: loudly and proudly. But I think the most relevant that

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Speaker 1: it will ever have for me is that it served

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Speaker 1: as important markers and that we take important lessons from

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Speaker 1: things of the past that might inform our future. So

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Speaker 1: thank you for taking time and being with us, and

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Speaker 1: obviously we'll give give you a platform any time here

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Speaker 1: on Native Land that you're willing to come and chat

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Speaker 1: with us.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate it any I would love that. This was

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Speaker 7: I think an incredibly productive conversation and I appreciate the

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Speaker 7: opportunity and I love you all.

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Speaker 8: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank y'all, Thank you, kareem and stay tuned.

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Speaker 9: On the other side, Hey, Native Land Podcast. My name

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Speaker 9: is doctor Hope Coleman. I am a licensed club and

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Speaker 9: social worker and I currently live in making Joygia. So

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Speaker 9: it is really late and I'm actually recovering from surgery,

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Speaker 9: so that's probably why I were crazy.

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Speaker 5: But I was just.

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Speaker 10: Thinking, if we can't beat them, can we join them?

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Speaker 10: And what I mean by that is what if we

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Speaker 10: did something like the spook who set by the Door

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Speaker 10: type of thing. If we could all join the Republican

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Speaker 10: Party and promote people who actually have our values in

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Speaker 10: place to run in the public Republican Party, and then

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Speaker 10: we nominate those people and both them into office. There

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Speaker 10: is that Do you feel like that's reasonable? Is that

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Speaker 10: something that we can do to like almost flip the

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Speaker 10: Republican Party to being something better than what it is.

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Speaker 10: Is that do you think that's something we can move?

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Speaker 1: I like that doctor hope and we hope you are

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Speaker 1: recovered or continue to recover, uh from that surgery?

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Speaker 2: What what?

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Speaker 1: What do y'all think? Infiltration?

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Speaker 2: I like the creativity.

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Speaker 3: I just don't I mean, I looked at Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: ain't even support winsom Seers last night, So I don't

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Speaker 3: really know if they want us, you gotta you gotta

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Speaker 3: infiltrate and get some numbers and and.

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Speaker 2: Do some things to find us well them. I don't

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Speaker 2: know that the folks who I'm.

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Speaker 6: Talking about Winsome, she is on some she is on

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Speaker 6: some other stuff.

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Speaker 3: Much you can put, you can put uh. You can

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Speaker 3: put Winsome and and uh herschel Walker and even may

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Speaker 3: he rest in peace Herman Kane into a category of

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Speaker 3: people that the Republican Party put out the pastor pretty quickly.

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Speaker 3: And so I don't think that there is a a

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Speaker 3: true desire. I don't know the intricacies of the Republican Party,

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Speaker 3: but I like the creativity. I just think our energy

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Speaker 3: is probably best other used transforming a party that has

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Speaker 3: included us from top to bottom, even when we are

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Speaker 3: upset at it and reframing the foundation of the Democratic

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Speaker 3: Party and trying to change that then infiltrating or the

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Speaker 3: spook by the door. But I mean, I ain't really

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna drink some tequila tonight and think about that.

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Speaker 5: A little bit, including us from top to bottom.

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Speaker 2: That's what I said.

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Speaker 3: That's why caveat, caveat it is that a word tificy

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Speaker 3: it is now?

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Speaker 1: That is do you know? The only other reasonable response

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Speaker 1: I could offer would be a lot of places in

665
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Speaker 1: my state are just read top to bottom, from school

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Speaker 1: board to your county commissioners to your mayor, and they

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Speaker 1: have sizeable black populations in a lot of these places.

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Speaker 1: And so the only way that a number of these

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Speaker 1: people can feel represented or be a representative themselves might

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Speaker 1: be to change party affiliation, run with the banner of Republican,

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Speaker 1: and govern as your natural self, whatever your your political

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Speaker 1: tendencies might might might lead you toward. That's That's really

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Speaker 1: the one place where I think maybe a strategy around

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Speaker 1: how black voices get integrated into decision making when you

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Speaker 1: live in a county or an area that's just overwhelmingly

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Speaker 1: Republican that you know, it's not even a beauty contest

677
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Speaker 1: to run as a Democrat. It's nothing you you you'll

678
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Speaker 1: never get there with that moniker. But but but the

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Speaker 1: wholesale I just don't know that there's a national strategy

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Speaker 1: that gets us where we want to be through infiltration.

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Speaker 3: In that I mean echo Howard Dean for a minute, right,

682
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Speaker 3: who kind of got a bum wrap with one live mic.

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Speaker 3: I think I thought Howard Dean actually was a really

684
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Speaker 3: good chair and had some.

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Speaker 2: Unique policy perspectives.

686
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Speaker 3: He had a fifty state strategy, which is where I'm

687
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Speaker 3: going with with the with what you're talking about, Andrew,

688
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Speaker 3: because I do think one kind of the antithesis to

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Speaker 3: what you're saying is still along the same line. I

690
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: think Democrats need to run everywhere, right, I understand infiltrating

691
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Speaker 3: their party, but in these deeply read places, we got

692
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Speaker 3: to run for doll catcher and make sure that they

693
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Speaker 3: aren't able to run unopposed. Shout out to my friend

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Speaker 3: who won last this week in in Mississippi to break

695
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Speaker 3: the supermajority. Right, he flipped the I mean overwhelmingly flipped

696
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Speaker 3: a Republican Senate seat. I mean, you're starting to see

697
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Speaker 3: those things actually happen. They kicked the last Republican off

698
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Speaker 3: the Orlando City Council last this week. I'm struggling with

699
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Speaker 3: these timeframes. But it's justifitly about to just kick me

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Speaker 3: from over here.

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Speaker 5: But I do I do it to be but I just.

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Speaker 3: Think that I think that we have to get back,

703
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Speaker 3: and I wish we had the resources and the foundation

704
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Speaker 3: because if Ken Martin popped up on the show, I

705
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Speaker 3: wouldn't know who he was, right, I just don't know

706
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Speaker 3: that cat that's the that's.

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Speaker 5: The chair chair that would like to not use DEI.

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Speaker 3: So, but I'm just saying I think that there has

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Speaker 3: to be you know, I hear the infiltration of maybe

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Speaker 3: this or that, but I just take it one step further.

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Speaker 3: And even in those deeply read places, I think that

712
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Speaker 3: they have to feel some pressure, even if you're not

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Speaker 3: going to win this particular time run somebody's.

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Speaker 4: And I just I just offer some historical context. I mean,

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Speaker 4: this did happen before there was a switcher rouse, so

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Speaker 4: to speak, of the political ideologies in the parties a

717
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Speaker 4: century ago. You had the Republican ideology chains drastically after

718
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Speaker 4: post reconstruction and then the New Deal. Uh, and it

719
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Speaker 4: was really when Roosevelt's election, I think he got like

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Speaker 4: seventy five percent of black voters, and then when the

721
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Speaker 4: New Deal excluded so many black people. Between that era

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Speaker 4: of the Civil Rights movement, that's when you really saw

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Speaker 4: not only ideology shift, but you saw a shift in

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Speaker 4: who black voters aligned with as the Republican Party increasingly

725
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Speaker 4: became comprised of wealthy businessmen, and then you had people

726
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Speaker 4: making inroads to folks once we have the rights to vote.

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Speaker 4: So it's not impossible to happen again. And there are

728
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Speaker 4: some people historians particular, who would say that everything repeats

729
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Speaker 4: every hundred years. So she may have been a Nigro

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Speaker 4: Damis with her question, but I don't know if that

731
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Speaker 4: can realistically happen now. I think we're going to see

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Speaker 4: the whole political party system implode at some point in

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Speaker 4: the company's future, but I don't know that that will

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Speaker 4: happen in our lifetime.

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Speaker 1: Well before it implodes, we might want to just reflect

736
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Speaker 1: on the politics of this week and how it may

737
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Speaker 1: have changed the country. I am very very interested to

738
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Speaker 1: hear y'all's takes on what we saw happen really across

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Speaker 1: the country. I know there are places like New Jersey

740
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Speaker 1: and Virginia and New York City that are getting a

741
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Speaker 1: lot of attention. But as we pull back and think

742
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Speaker 1: about what happened this week and elections that took place

743
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Speaker 1: on Tuesday across the nation, I'm curious from you all

744
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Speaker 1: whether or not these are bel weather are we seeing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'll just be blunt and say Virginia, New Jersey,

746
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Speaker 1: and New York City are pretty blue places. I mean,

747
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Speaker 1: Virginia goes back and forth, but we're our safe territory

748
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Speaker 1: for Democrats in a lot of ways, and so good

749
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Speaker 1: that Democrats were able to pull through some of those places.

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Speaker 1: But I do think it's the picture is actually more

751
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Speaker 1: complicated than that. I think it's more diverse than that.

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Speaker 1: And I'm wondering from each of you, how do you

753
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Speaker 1: size it up and whether or not we can either

754
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Speaker 1: continue the momentum in this direction or whether the politics

755
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Speaker 1: of the midterms will have to look different.

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Speaker 6: You know, Andrew, I want to get to that, but

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Speaker 6: I also just want to highlight some things that I

758
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Speaker 6: think that are unique about our show. There has been

759
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Speaker 6: this big celebration, and I think it's good for people

760
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Speaker 6: to see a momentum shift, especially amiss the shutdown. At

761
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Speaker 6: the time recording this podcast, it is now the longest

762
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Speaker 6: government shut down in history. There's conversation about moderate Democrats

763
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Speaker 6: leaning towards a gutted out version of healthcare subsidies for

764
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Speaker 6: tax paying citizens. But at the same time, we are

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Speaker 6: still in the midst of shutdown, and people said they

766
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Speaker 6: spoke decisively about what they didn't want.

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Speaker 5: I think that there's still some.

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Speaker 6: Ambiguity about what people do want and how we get there. So,

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Speaker 6: for example, we know of the Virginia governor, the lieutenant governor,

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Speaker 6: the attorney general. There was a full sweep in Virginia.

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Speaker 6: But what I don't think we talk enough about are

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Speaker 6: these percentage changes. These are things that you and Baccari

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Speaker 6: have experienced firsthand having been elected officials.

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Speaker 5: Why would Abigail Spamberger have.

775
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Speaker 6: Fifty seven percent of the vote, the lieutenant governor who's

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Speaker 6: a Muslim woman gets fifty five percent of the vote,

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Speaker 6: and you get down to Jay Jones, a black man,

778
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Speaker 6: it's fifty two percent of the vote.

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Speaker 5: If you're voting across the back, you know, full ticket,

780
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Speaker 5: what's up? What's up?

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Speaker 6: So I think those these are the kinds of difficult

782
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Speaker 6: conversations that we've got to have and we can't have

783
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Speaker 6: it Ken Martin without DEI and without an inclusive componversation

784
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Speaker 6: and about candidate recruitment and who you decide can win

785
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Speaker 6: these elections, and talking to voters about their subconscious and

786
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Speaker 6: sometimes very blatant racism.

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Speaker 5: I think the.

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Speaker 6: Other thing that Bakart brought up around Mississippi is important.

789
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Speaker 6: There was not just a Senate seat flip, but also

790
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Speaker 6: a House seat flip that's in the red state of Mississippi.

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Speaker 6: There is almost no investment in southern states. There is

792
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Speaker 6: a reason to invest in Southern states because when voters

793
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Speaker 6: are motivated, when they're poured into just like anybody else,

794
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Speaker 6: whether it's your congregation or is your workplace, people show

795
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Speaker 6: up very differently.

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Speaker 5: I think the other thing that I really want to

797
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Speaker 5: highlight are two blue states.

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Speaker 6: I'm biased here, so I want to talk about Washington briefly.

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Speaker 6: Erica Evans, who ran for city attorney black women from

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Speaker 6: my law school. She won decisively. City council woman Dion

801
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Speaker 6: Foster will she will be a city council woman. In

802
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Speaker 6: the King County exec we will have the first ever

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Speaker 6: King County Exec. And Germai Zahala should he pulled this off,

804
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Speaker 6: but he's running against a rich white woman and then

805
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 6: of course New York and I think that the conversation

806
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Speaker 6: that is frustrating me right now is is he represent

807
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Speaker 6: the face of the party and people are the new

808
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Speaker 6: face of the Democratic Party, the future of the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 6: And I really appreciate what AOC said and part of

810
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Speaker 6: what we heard from Koreem, which is this is a

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Speaker 6: big tent party and it has multiple faces. And I

812
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Speaker 6: think it is errant to assign any particular face or

813
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Speaker 6: one body of politics to this entire party, especially because

814
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Speaker 6: when you go to the Bureau of Queens, Mam Donnie

815
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Speaker 6: just barely eaked out of victory there, and so what

816
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Speaker 6: is the what is the world challenge there? That's not

817
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Speaker 6: necessarily a party conversation, but it is a political conversation,

818
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Speaker 6: and we've got to get to the notes and nets

819
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Speaker 6: and both of that. I also want to shout out

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Speaker 6: California on Prop fifty or the sixty three percent of people,

821
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Speaker 6: ninety one percent of black voters support it Prop fifty.

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Speaker 3: Media, Oh, go ahead, I'm sorry. I just wanted to

823
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Speaker 3: just level set what what happened this week. I think

824
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Speaker 3: I think it's important for us to just talk about

825
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Speaker 3: how Dems won up and down the ballot quickly. They

826
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Speaker 3: flipped two statewide seats on Public Service Commission in Georgia.

827
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Speaker 3: And when I was talking about black women earlier with KJP,

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Speaker 3: I forgot to mention Alicia Johnson, a black woman who

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Speaker 3: did something that others haven't done in a very long

830
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Speaker 3: period of time. And we're talking about Georgia. Democrats won

831
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Speaker 3: by greater percentages than Democrats won in California and Hawaii.

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's think about that for a second. You know,

833
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Speaker 3: we won, We swept Virginia, New Jersey as well. We

834
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Speaker 3: did things like when the mayor of Pittsburgh, Democrats did

835
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Speaker 3: that jd Vance's brother got beat by over sixty points

836
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Speaker 3: for the mayor of Cincinnati, Ohio. Shout out to Atap Pureval.

837
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Speaker 3: And then in Virginia, to your point, Angela, every single

838
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Speaker 3: county in Virginia swung left. And what we saw were

839
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Speaker 3: the gangs that Donald Trump made in the Hispanic community

840
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Speaker 3: actually immediately reverted back. And so you have to begin

841
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Speaker 3: to look at some of these underlying trends. I just

842
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Speaker 3: wanted to make sure that listeners and viewers Tiffany kind

843
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Speaker 3: of understood the gravity because I can't go around a

844
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Speaker 3: race outside of Melvin Carter being upset in Saint Paul,

845
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Speaker 3: Saint Paul, Minnesota last night, which was just an upset.

846
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Speaker 3: He just got beat by somebody who was you know,

847
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna let them talk about their own race. But

848
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Speaker 3: from similar politics, at least on the same side of

849
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Speaker 3: the isle. You can't find a Democrat or a Democrat

850
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Speaker 3: initiative that got beat this week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you mentioned earlier some of the black winds,

852
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Speaker 1: uh up and down.

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Speaker 3: The ballot, some of those, Yeah, I mean Alicia Johnson

854
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Speaker 3: and Georgia. You have Mary Mary Sheffield in Detroit. You

855
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Speaker 3: have two new mayors in New York. I know a

856
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Speaker 3: lot of people talk about but Aubany and Syracuse now

857
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Speaker 3: have have Vylos one re election last night. I mean,

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Speaker 3: but you know, now, let me just say this, Charlotte

859
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Speaker 3: was under the microscope from the right wing because of

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Speaker 3: the death, the unfortunate death of the young lady on

861
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Speaker 3: the train. By the way, the city doesn't even operate

862
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Speaker 3: the public transit service there, it's privately run, but they were.

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Speaker 3: She was under fierce attack and she won with seventy

864
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Speaker 3: percent of the vote. So I mean, I just think

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Speaker 3: we have the level set Tiffany about what exactly happened

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Speaker 3: this week.

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Speaker 4: Is there, though, Bucari, like a geographical difference, you know?

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Speaker 4: I have to say I'm really frustrated with the question

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Speaker 4: and the idea around centering Mandannie's race, like is he

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Speaker 4: the new face of the Democratic Party? I think that

871
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Speaker 4: is a question that centers the Beltway so much because

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Speaker 4: people who are impacted by this shut down, people who

873
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Speaker 4: are hungry today, I don't know that that's what they're

874
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Speaker 4: thinking about. I think, you know, it's politics, as we

875
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 4: all know, as a local game, and people spoke to

876
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 4: policies that impacted people that inspired them to come out Mondonnie.

877
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 4: I will say that he did an amazing job hitting

878
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 4: the nightclubs. I had never really seen that, and he

879
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 4: understood that if I walk into this hip hop club,

880
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 4: into every kind of genre of nightclub he could, and

881
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 4: everybody was going to take out that phone and he's

882
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 4: you know, flag surf into New York. That that was

883
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 4: a free earned media opportunity for him. You know, that

884
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 4: was just everybody was going to share that. And I

885
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 4: thought that was really innovative for him. He's also a

886
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 4: thirty four year old, you know, assemblyman, and he brought

887
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 4: out the largest turnout in New York City in more

888
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 4: than three decades. I think that says something. New York

889
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 4: is a city of immigrants, now a city run by immigrants,

890
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 4: and we know that, you know, exit polls are notoriously unreliable,

891
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 4: of course, but he did at this point. I mean,

892
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 4: these numbers will likely change, but he did get I

893
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 4: think fifty five percent of the black vote, which says something.

894
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 4: But mccaria, I thought it was really interesting that you

895
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 4: talked about what happened in Georgia, and Georgia black voters

896
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 4: are the base vote. They are not a niche group

897
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 4: that you turn out to. So I just think it

898
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 4: is it's so it's a flat terminology because all this

899
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 4: this week, every single question has been you know, is

900
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 4: he the new face? Is he the new face? And

901
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 4: it feels like a question that's trying to pigeonhole Democrats,

902
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 4: you know, so they can say, well, look at this,

903
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 4: but you said that he supports this policy, and you're

904
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 4: saying he's a new face, but what about this in

905
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 4: this area? And I love when people push back on

906
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,479
Speaker 4: that question because it just it just seems dated this point.

907
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: The reason being is because you know this, and we

908
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: all know this better than most, but let's articulate it clearly.

909
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 3: The reason being is because Kamala Harris is now somewhat

910
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 3: on the sidelines kind of regrouping. Joe Biden is no

911
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 3: longer necessarily someone that's out on the forefront. Barack Obama's

912
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 3: been removed from the presidency now for nine years, almost

913
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 3: going on ten years, or they're about and so the

914
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: Republican Party does something extremely good, which is paint this boogeyman.

915
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 3: And what they want to do is have this boogeyman

916
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 3: in Mandani because they are going to otheriz him, because

917
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 3: they're going to say that he is not American. They're

918
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 3: going to say that, you know, you hear the litany

919
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: of things to castigate him. And they want that boogeyman

920
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 3: and to be a part of what Democrats have to

921
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 3: say when they are articulating their successes and or failures

922
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 3: or whatever it may be. And my point is this,

923
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 3: the Democratic Party is Joe Manchin and Mundanni and everybody

924
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 3: in between right and the Democratic Party, whether or not

925
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Speaker 3: we like it or not, as a big tent party,

926
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 3: but the successes don't stop. Because if you just mentioned

927
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 3: Mamdanni and you don't mention the young ladies who won

928
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 3: an Albany and Syracuse, right, you don't mention the individuals

929
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 3: who won in Georgia or Orlando, Florida or Mississippi. I

930
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 3: think you're doing a disservice, and I think it was

931
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 3: an outwter rejection. I just think that last night is

932
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 3: a vacuum. There are lessons that can be learned. But

933
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 3: to Andrew's point, specifically as the great host of today's show,

934
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that that would foretell what will happen

935
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Speaker 3: next year.

936
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Speaker 1: You set up real straight, the Mundanni peace with regard

937
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 1: to the boogeyman that Republicans want to create. My real

938
00:48:54,960 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: frustration is the great assist in that deva they're giving

939
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,959
Speaker 1: from other Democrats, the fact that you've got so many

940
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Speaker 1: prominent Democrats who are willing to either withhold support for

941
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: Mondami or to you know, sort of you know, bottom

942
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: of the page is sort of footnote all the differences

943
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 1: in so many ways. I just feel like the party

944
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: so often so afraid of its own shadows, so afraid

945
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: of what the critique might be of their person of

946
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: choice or the new person who's coming that they jump

947
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: to the side and they do the job that Republicans

948
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: want to do to us, they do it for them,

949
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: And I would just yes, it's a big tent party,

950
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: but also yes, the man actually has some good goddamn

951
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: ideas that more Democrats got to pick up on, run on,

952
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: win on, and then legislate on, just as is the

953
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: case for a bunch of other candidates who are you know,

954
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: bathe in the blue Democrats that we would all wrap

955
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: our arms around and celebrate and lift up who also

956
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: has their own set of issues if we want to go,

957
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: you know, by lying hook by hook through which one

958
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: of them to determine who is positionally the best next

959
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: figurehead if you want to go down that line. But

960
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: but the but my frustration with the calling out Mandamee

961
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: as if he is some dinosaur and the rest of

962
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: us are on some other planet is ridiculous. It's uncalled for,

963
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: and voters will not reward Democrats for that. In the end,

964
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: do not but tray uh this man simply because he

965
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: didn't come up through the party in the same way

966
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: that you did, didn't lay his Oaks in the same

967
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: way and have the unmitigated gall to question whether or

968
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 1: not the the the the international policy being pursued and

969
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: and Gaza is the right one, or whether it's hu

970
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: Maine or not. We got to learn that lesson first

971
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: and stop doing the assist work to Republicans who are

972
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: held bent on trying to cast get the guy and

973
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: make him look like the strange dude in the room,

974
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, as quick as anything.

975
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 3: And I think the I think the flip side is

976
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 3: I think that Mom, Donnie and I believe this to

977
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 3: be true. I think that and you probably can articulate

978
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 3: this better. Everybody doesn't. You don't legislate how you campaign, right.

979
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: Of course, he's already yeah.

980
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: I mean you just I mean I think that people

981
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 3: have to take a deep breath and understand that that

982
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 3: is the way that politics, for.

983
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: Better or for worse.

984
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I usually think it's for better because people

985
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 3: get involved in a system, they understand the system, They

986
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 3: understand how they can create successes within that system or

987
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 3: shatter that system and try to recreate it in the

988
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 3: image that they want. But I will tell you, Mandami

989
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 3: did piss me off by being a part of a

990
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 3: movement that didn't even support Kamala Harris. Now, for me

991
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 3: as a Democrat going forward, that means that we now

992
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 3: have to we now have to we now have to

993
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 3: bring him into the fold or whatever it may be,

994
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 3: or go wrap arms or whatever, go to his folk.

995
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 3: I don't know how that works. However, there you can't.

996
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 3: I mean, what is it past this prolog or whatever

997
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 3: it is? And there is a weird expectation. And wait

998
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 3: a minute. You you led a movement to abandon Kamala

999
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 3: Harris when we when democracy was on the line, and

1000
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 3: now we're hip or critical for not supporting you today.

1001
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 3: I think now everybody has to take a deep breath

1002
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 3: and say, Okay, now, how do we move forward together

1003
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 3: in some way, shape, form, or fashion that means that

1004
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 3: we can beat fascism?

1005
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 11: Nobody knows.

1006
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 4: I wanted to touch on this point that Bakari made

1007
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 4: about him not supporting Kamala Harris. Vice President Harris and

1008
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 4: a lot of people didn't support her, and I think

1009
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 4: the important context there is her position on Israel and Palestine.

1010
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 4: And look, we talked about that on this show. We

1011
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 4: understood the danger that we were facing here in America.

1012
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: But if you are supporting a regime that is committing genocide,

1013
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 4: that is funding a genocide, and that is supplying weapons

1014
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 4: that are killing people that fit under the umbrella in

1015
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 4: which I identify, or even if it doesn't fit under the

1016
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 4: umbrella that I identify, I cannot be mad now. I

1017
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 4: think I wand up in protesting her is senseless and dumb.

1018
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 4: One of our friends that that's like showing up to

1019
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 4: a Beyonce concert to protest. R Kelly, like, I agree

1020
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 4: with that, but I do I understand. I think we

1021
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 4: have to extend some humanity. She was willing to call

1022
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 4: for a two week cease fire, and that wasn't enough

1023
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 4: for a lot of people. So I hear you, Bacari.

1024
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 4: I just think there is a legitimate reason why some

1025
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 4: people could not bring themselves to vote for her. Angela,

1026
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 4: I know we're coming to you. I just want to say,

1027
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 4: I know you spoke to her this week, and I'm

1028
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 4: really excited to see that interview and if there's anything,

1029
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 4: if we your co host can't have a sneak peek,

1030
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 4: can you just tell us anything because we obviously didn't

1031
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 4: watch it live, but I'm really excited to hear if

1032
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 4: you can share anything that we might want to know.

1033
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 4: As you answer say with your.

1034
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 6: Thanks, Tip, I just want to clarify briefly, there's I

1035
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 6: don't know, Bakari, and I love to see what you're

1036
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 6: looking at, but there's nothing that I've found that said

1037
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 6: that he did not support her. He did not publicly

1038
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 6: support her. I don't of an effort that he led

1039
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 6: to go against Kamala Harris. I just want to make

1040
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 6: sure we're precise and clear about that. I know he

1041
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 6: was very excited about her endorsing him. She made a

1042
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 6: statement where she said I'm gonn support any Democratic nominee,

1043
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 6: and then she went further to the point Tip.

1044
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 5: When we were in conversation.

1045
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 6: On Tuesday night, election night in Seattle, she was very

1046
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 6: thrilled to have been have supported Zora Mandani and and

1047
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 6: talked about how excited she was to have talked to

1048
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 6: most of the candidates the night of the election. So

1049
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 6: she definitely is not caring whatever. And I know sometimes

1050
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 6: when we love our people, we go harder for them

1051
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 6: than they want us to go. And they've moved past

1052
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 6: it and we haven't released it. But I think it

1053
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,959
Speaker 6: is foolish for us not to see beyond new York

1054
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 6: the way that he was able to be unconventional in

1055
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 6: his approach he was doing. He did the one of

1056
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 6: the like Instagram posts he did. He went sat on

1057
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 6: this corner and talked about the legacy of LaGuardia, you know,

1058
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 6: talked about all of these things that he is trying

1059
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 6: to bring forward with New York, also trying, I think,

1060
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 6: show the as distinct as he is, as different and

1061
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 6: diverse as he is, there's some saneness, some similarity that

1062
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 6: he hopes to and some lifeblood that he hopes to

1063
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 6: bring back to the city. I think for us to

1064
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 6: or for people, for the American people to not see

1065
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 6: the danger in resurrecting Andrew Cuomo and after Donald Trump

1066
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 6: endorsed him, I just don't even know what the conversation

1067
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 6: is really about. If there was, if it was the

1068
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 6: Republican Party, they would hold their nose and keep going.

1069
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 6: They would hold their nose for Marjorie Taylor Green, they

1070
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 6: would hold their nose for Trey Goudi, they would hold

1071
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 6: their nose like for any of them, my bad bee.

1072
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 6: I know Trey Goudy's your friend, he's not mine, But

1073
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 6: any of them, right, they're gonna go hard and to

1074
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 6: paint for any of them. We act like if somebody

1075
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 6: has if we only agree with them seventy five percent

1076
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 6: of the time, then there is a no go and

1077
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 6: that it's so dumb.

1078
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 5: I don't like to say dumb, but that is I don't.

1079
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 4: Know, you guy, I don't know. Or I wanted to

1080
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 4: give McCary a chance to say, because I do think

1081
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 4: it's we owe clarity that if he led an effort.

1082
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: To Yeah, no, I mean I'm gonna be I'm gonna

1083
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 3: be extremely clear because I mean he he was a

1084
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 3: part of the uncommitted movement, which we know and we

1085
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 3: know we know about. In twenty twenty four, he owed

1086
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 3: urged voters to withhold their vote from Joe Biden and

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris. He cast a blank blank ballot, leave it

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00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 3: blank campaign. I'm in the primary system, and so yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I can't tell you. I mean, the

1090
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 3: uncommitted movement was what it was. And yeah, I'm not

1091
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 3: talking about their reasoning. I mean, I know Tiffany just

1092
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 3: gave an eloquent defense thereof but I just wanted to

1093
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 3: say that as a matter of of just clarity, he

1094
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 3: was he was a part of the uncommitted movement.

1095
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 2: He did leave it, leave it, But I don't know.

1096
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 4: I gotta believe this man's word.

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00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 6: He went on with Clay Caine and he talked about

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00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 6: supporting Kamala Harris. So I don't I don't know when

1099
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Speaker 6: he supported.

1100
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Speaker 1: He also could be moments in time.

1101
00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be moments in time.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm looking at a I'm looking at a

1103
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 3: at a at an uncommitted. A tweet from Zora on

1104
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 3: the uncommitted campaign in Michigan is an inspiration for how

1105
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 3: we can organize it.

1106
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: Like so Michigan, Michigan's uncommitted campaign was very distinct and

1107
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: direct to the primary process.

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Speaker 5: He didn't live there, he is, But I'm just but

1109
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 5: I get your point. But I must want to.

1110
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Speaker 6: Make sure that I'm not signing something to him that's

1111
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 6: not true redless of the assignment.

1112
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Speaker 3: What I am saying is now, regardless of the assignment

1113
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 3: and where we were, And I think my only point

1114
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 3: is where we were then and how people may feel

1115
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 3: about him then, or how he may have felt about

1116
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 3: us or whomever. Then this is a moment in time

1117
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 3: where we may have missed that train to defeat fascism together.

1118
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 2: Then but maybe there is.

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00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 3: A point where we can meet together and try to

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Speaker 3: defeat fascism.

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Speaker 2: Now that's my only.

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00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 4: Point, can I ask y'all, because you're saying, you know

1123
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 4: how the Republican Party they blindly support anybody, and I

1124
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 4: don't know that that's a fair comparison. They are rooted

1125
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 4: in our destruction, they are rooted in their racism. So

1126
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 4: of course, if that's your chief goal, then yeah, you

1127
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 4: can hold your nose and vote for anybody. I mean,

1128
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 4: we have, you know, women who support pro choice policies

1129
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 4: who cast ballots for Donald Trump because they are voting

1130
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 4: in another part of their interests. I think it depends,

1131
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 4: I want to hear from all you guys. I think

1132
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 4: it depends on what that seventy five percent is for you.

1133
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 4: You're saying, if they support seventy five p cent but

1134
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 4: not twenty five percent, it's a no go. But if

1135
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 4: that twenty five percent is, I'm going to keep supporting

1136
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 4: funding weapons that are killing people who look like me.

1137
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 4: That's a big twenty five percent. If that twenty five

1138
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 4: percent is, I'm going to support this Democratic candidate who

1139
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 4: does not support affirmative action, who does not support DEI,

1140
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 4: and who maybe isn't an approach choice candidate, but they

1141
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 4: seventy five percent of these things they agree with. It

1142
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 4: just depends on where we fall.

1143
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 3: You think that that's a I think that's somewhat of

1144
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 3: a kind of a red hearing.

1145
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 6: And the reason even I mean, look at Gavin Newsom's

1146
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 6: she's just asking.

1147
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 3: Because I'm going back, I'm going back to Israel and

1148
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 3: Palestine here and we talked to I mean, I would

1149
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 3: love to ask the simple question who was better on

1150
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 3: the issue, Kamala Harrison.

1151
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 4: Donald Trump, Kamala Harris.

1152
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: By far So.

1153
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 3: I mean, for me, it's like and I understand, I

1154
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 3: get it, I completely understand.

1155
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: It be that they're both unacceptable.

1156
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 2: Well and boom, how about that if they if they are, which.

1157
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 6: One is her own credit? To her own credit? Again, tiff,

1158
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 6: I want to talk about the interview to her own credit.

1159
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 5: She said that they made some mistakes.

1160
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 3: But she said, but this is a but see this

1161
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 3: is this is a concept of duality. You only have

1162
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 3: two choices and if you don't vote, if you don't vote,

1163
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 3: that is a vote for Donald Trump.

1164
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: Which is why I say, which is.

1165
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: With the exceptin this is the fine point when we

1166
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: were in Michigan. We heard from people who had lost

1167
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: their cousins, first cousins, aunties, grandma's, were still waiting to

1168
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: hear from other relatives that they hadn't been with. The

1169
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: choice for them was not about is this person better

1170
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: on this thing than this person when they're all leading

1171
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: to an relation of my relatives, the people who I

1172
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: know love, so on and so forth. So this, this

1173
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of where someone stands on an issue

1174
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: is individual. It is not systematic. It is to me,

1175
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: ninety percent of my politics are my children, and if

1176
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: you do something that is going to stunt them, I'm

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Speaker 1: not for you to you. You know, maybe I'm a

1178
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: twenty five percent person for blacks, and I'm a twenty

1179
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: five percent person on women and a but it's individual.

1180
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: And so for those folks who I said in Detroit,

1181
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: I cannot Who am I to stand here and tell

1182
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: somebody who's lost their cousin, their aunt, their great grandmother, whomever,

1183
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: and this war that you were faced with either Donald

1184
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: Trump or this woman and go with the one that's

1185
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: going to No, I can't do that because if you

1186
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: tried me like that, we have problems. And I know

1187
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: these these were folks who were reckoning out loud with

1188
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,439
Speaker 1: us about the conflict they faced. They knew he would

1189
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: be no good, but they also knew that they couldn't

1190
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: reward in any way, shape or form the annihilation that

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01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: was taking place of their people and their family at

1192
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: that point in time.

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Speaker 6: I guess I think, sorry, I hear you, Andrew, and

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01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 6: I just want to clarify my twenty five percent was

1195
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 6: not about Gaza.

1196
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 5: It was just it was a blanket. But I have you.

1197
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 6: And I but I appreciate TI sess it out, like, well,

1198
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 6: what is that twenty five percent? Because I think it's

1199
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 6: important where I think the Democratic Party traditionally goes wrong,

1200
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 6: and even special interests.

1201
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 5: We're negros, we're.

1202
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 6: The special interest group within the party, right, Like, do

1203
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 6: you have a pledge? Do you have an agenda that

1204
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 6: you expect people to ascribe to. When you do that,

1205
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 6: then you can really figure out if you can rock

1206
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 6: with that twenty five percent that's missing or not. But

1207
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 6: to what we have to talk about it in this

1208
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 6: amorphous way because there are no guard rails, and because

1209
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 6: there are no guardrails, when somebody comes in in ruffles feathers,

1210
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 6: because they didn't come up through the establishment.

1211
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 5: You get, you get.

1212
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 6: This, you get everybody'll the billionaire, the billionaire folks, the pundits.

1213
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 6: There are people who we know very well who worked

1214
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 6: on Andrew Cuomo's campaign endorsed by Donald Trump. So I'm

1215
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 6: just saying we should at least be clear about what

1216
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 6: we're not gonna be if we can't be clear about

1217
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 6: where we are going to be. But I do think

1218
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 6: we have some work to do. It's gonna be a

1219
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 6: tough road, but I think it's worth it because what

1220
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 6: happens if you don't agree with this twenty five percent

1221
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 6: of whomever, you end up with people who you don't

1222
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 6: agree with at all or.

1223
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 5: Eighty percent of the time.

1224
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 6: Like I'm gonna sit this race out, I'm gona talk

1225
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 6: about Kamala and Donald Trump. Now I'm talking about your

1226
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 6: member of Congress, I'm talking about your mayor, I'm talking

1227
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 6: about your city council member. And I think we sometimes

1228
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 6: get so we want people to pass purity tests. We

1229
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 6: can never pass at work, correct, You just hit it,

1230
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 6: you just hit it.

1231
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 5: We can never at the store.

1232
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: That's a type of that is a type of voter

1233
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: just to some of us are harm reductionists, as voters. Yeah,

1234
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: there are others of us who are changing. Those who

1235
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: are who are better than sixty percent. There are others

1236
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: who are Just this is the thing that is really

1237
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: bugging me. I never voted before, but I'm going to

1238
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: the polls because I believe marijuana to be legal. That's it, period,

1239
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: enough said, I'm done.

1240
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 2: So I just I'm glad you're finally motivated. I'm glad

1241
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 2: you're finally motivated.

1242
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 5: Shot, But you.

1243
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 6: Got the point. The point here is this, And I

1244
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 6: don't want to skirt this either. This is so I

1245
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 6: wish we need to do this like a three hour

1246
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 6: podcast one day. But I think this is such a

1247
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 6: profound This is why Tiff is our journalist. It's such

1248
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 6: a profound question because it causes us to stress test

1249
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 6: one our history. Like if you look at the historic

1250
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 6: win of the Democrats in two thousand and six sweep

1251
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 6: took over. They were there, they were winning on draining

1252
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 6: the swamp right language that has now been stolen from

1253
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 6: the Democratic Party. That particular Congress was even though there

1254
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 6: were black people who became chairs of committees, it was

1255
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 6: particularly harmful to black members of Congress and black politics

1256
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 6: because they were asked to regularly hold their those they

1257
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 6: were going to get to it. Then two thousand and eight,

1258
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 6: hold your nose, Barack Obama's get to you second term,

1259
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 6: and we keep holding our nose and never getting a win.

1260
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 6: And now what has happened is the same black folks

1261
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 6: who need to vote for this party for it to

1262
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 6: stay in power, to retrieve power, to regain power, They're like, well,

1263
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 6: what do.

1264
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 5: I get for it if I do? Because every time

1265
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,479
Speaker 5: I do this, I have to wait.

1266
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 6: That is a real wrestling and a family conversation that

1267
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 6: we have to have because it just won't work anymore.

1268
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 6: And one of the things I really appreciate about with

1269
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 6: Kamala what Madame Vice President said yesterday or tip whenever

1270
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Speaker 6: I did the interview, Okay, I messed this up every

1271
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 6: time she said that we shouldn't try to be reflective

1272
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 6: and reminiscent on what was the system that was because

1273
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 6: we know it was broken, So we shouldn't be striving

1274
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 6: to go back to rebuild something we talked about on

1275
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 6: podcasts too that we know it doesn't work, So what

1276
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 6: does the new road look like?

1277
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 3: I know we got to get to CTA's. I know

1278
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 3: we got to get to CTAs so yeah, but I

1279
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 3: just I appreciated that question a lot because it makes

1280
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 3: you dig a little deeper. And like, I don't think

1281
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 3: I'm a seventy five to twenty five type of voter.

1282
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 3: I'm a we can't be free until we all are

1283
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 3: free type of voter. And like I just look at

1284
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 3: the core ethics or morals or the what the what

1285
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 3: the inherent beliefs are of the choice, because I mean,

1286
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 3: it's you're making a choice when you cast a ballot,

1287
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 3: and if if that, if those inherent beliefs are more

1288
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 3: in line with mine, even if they're not all in

1289
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 3: line with mine, then that is how I cast my ballot.

1290
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Speaker 1: I hear you, Well, you continue this.

1291
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 4: Get the viewer question. We had another viewer question.

1292
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: Yep, We're going to get to that. We're going to

1293
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: get to that. Right after I finished this. We are

1294
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: hopefully going to continue this conversation as a part of

1295
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: our mini pod today. We'll talk a little bit further

1296
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: on the electoral side and get underneath some of the

1297
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: apparatus that helps some of these campaigns to succeed or not.

1298
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: And I also think it will be able to dig

1299
01:05:56,560 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: a little bit on what is accountability of your people,

1300
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: your side, how do you hold them accountable? And before

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Speaker 1: we head to our CTAs, want to kick to this

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Speaker 1: viewer question and maybe the best cook among us think

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Speaker 1: you can address it. Ah, I'm a breakfast cook.

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Speaker 12: Hello Native LAMPI I am Chessatia. I am the managing partner.

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Speaker 12: All I want to do is feed you well and

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Speaker 12: I create one of the kind experiences culturally relevant experiences

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Speaker 12: around food. I got the opportunity to see you at Afrotech,

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Speaker 12: but didn't have quite the time to ask my question.

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Speaker 12: I am a native of Chicago and I have been

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Speaker 12: activated in the Bay Area for the past ten years.

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Speaker 12: My question has a lot to do with why I'm

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Speaker 12: at Afrotech this year. It has to do with our

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Speaker 12: recipes and our legacy data. My question to you is

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Speaker 12: who is protecting our recipes holding on to our recipes?

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Speaker 12: If you could name at least three people who you

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Speaker 12: will leave without naming Michael Harriet, whose book is Magnificent,

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Speaker 12: I bought three copses without being Michael Harriet. But somewhere

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Speaker 12: in that line, who is holding on and preserving our

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Speaker 12: legacy data and holding on our recipes?

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Speaker 1: That's y'all.

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Speaker 4: I love that question.

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Speaker 13: I love.

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Speaker 4: It's good because I know a lot of families this

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Speaker 4: month are going to be making Thanksgiving dinners. And I

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Speaker 4: was thinking, just this week, I used to, like a

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Speaker 4: lot of black women or black girls. I used to

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Speaker 4: sit in the kitchen just watching my grandmother cook, and

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Speaker 4: while we were talking, you know, she'd like, you know,

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Speaker 4: dice these onions from me, you know, chop these peppers.

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Speaker 4: You know, I was her sous chef while also getting

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Speaker 4: like life advice from her, So she was teaching me

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Speaker 4: how to cook before I could see over the stove,

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Speaker 4: but also just hearing those moments. And you know, I

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Speaker 4: live alone, so it's not often that I'm cooking like

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Speaker 4: a huge meal. And every Thanksgiven, we would all the

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Speaker 4: entire family would be an audience and stand around my

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Speaker 4: grandmother and watch her make her dressing because it was

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Speaker 4: so good. And I was thinking, like, damn, did I

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Speaker 4: still make her dressing? She passed away like ten years ago,

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Speaker 4: and I haven't made dressing in probably ten years, like

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Speaker 4: since she passed away, and I was trying to think

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Speaker 4: of everything that went into it. So this question, I think, is,

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Speaker 4: so as we lose our elders, lose our ancestors, you

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Speaker 4: know all the things that we've learned to make how

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Speaker 4: are we holding onto this? So to answer her question,

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Speaker 4: I would say Chef Carla Hall. I know Chef Carla

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Speaker 4: Hall has the book coming out. We should have her

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Speaker 4: on the show, but I think she'd be a good person.

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Speaker 4: Potentially Melba who we love, Joy Reed and I hosted

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Speaker 4: a special with her, Melbyn Harlem, who loves the show.

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Speaker 4: So those are my two answers.

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Speaker 3: But I'm curious my answers are a little different because

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Speaker 3: when I think about could take, say, keeping your recipes,

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Speaker 3: I just don't think about it in the kitchen.

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Speaker 5: So I was it didn't sound like she did either.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think I just totally misunderstand that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you might have because Michael Harriet. But then no,

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Speaker 3: I think you're right. But I think she referenced both.

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Speaker 3: And I like the fact, by the way, her name

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Speaker 3: is dope, because you know, she just didn't say cook.

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Speaker 2: She said cook.

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, the name said that you ain't coming for

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Speaker 3: no half ass meal. You know we gonna cook. Well,

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Speaker 3: So I appreciate that, but I think that our the

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Speaker 3: stewards of our recipes. And I'm biased because I grew

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Speaker 3: up in a household of one are our HBCU presidents.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that they get enough love. I don't

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Speaker 3: think they get enough support, encouragement and thanks. But I

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Speaker 3: think those individuals have their finger on the pulse of

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Speaker 3: a generation. They're always changing. That generation is always growing.

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Speaker 3: They're always nurturing and shout out to people like doctor

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Speaker 3: Warmack at Klaflin and roslind artists at Benedict. I mean,

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Speaker 3: are they are the ones who are on the front

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Speaker 3: lines with what are not the future leaders, They're the

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Speaker 3: leaders of today. So I think that that is where

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Speaker 3: our recipes get passed down and cultivated and preserved.

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Speaker 6: I'm thinking about I'm just saying to name too quickly, Andrew.

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Speaker 6: I want to hear your thoughts too. But there are

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Speaker 6: two people who I feel like regularly stretched well. I

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Speaker 6: can't say Michael Harriet, but of course he stretches us too.

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Speaker 6: I want to go to Nicole Hannah Jones because recently

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Speaker 6: she just uh, I think she purchased or she's renting

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Speaker 6: out of space tip correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 4: She's building a building a place. Yeah, so she bought

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Speaker 4: a building, a warehouse in Bedstye that's going to be

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Speaker 4: books in Bourbon, her two favorite things. Hell, it's going

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Speaker 4: to be a writer's residency with like three apartments. It's

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Speaker 4: going to be a like we can record the live

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Speaker 4: podcast there. It's going to be like a speakeasy that

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Speaker 4: only her cool people know about. It's going to be

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Speaker 4: a bookstore.

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Speaker 2: All the things you.

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Speaker 3: Just told, just told every listener about to speak easy Nicole.

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Speaker 13: You know, Hell, But but I wanted I wanted to

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Speaker 13: bring that up because what I love even about this

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Speaker 13: purchase tip is it's an old black owned hardware store

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Speaker 13: in Bedstye, And to me, like Nicole will find a

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Speaker 13: way to make sure that we are going to learn

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Speaker 13: our history, whether it's on paper it's tough agree or

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Speaker 13: it's through a purchase like this, I think it's profound.

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Speaker 6: And she just inspires me to constantly think out out

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Speaker 6: the box, so it stretches me. I think about recipes

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Speaker 6: that stretch you, not the simple ones you know off hand,

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Speaker 6: but like the ones you might have to remix it

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Speaker 6: to make sure it tastes good. And then I also

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Speaker 6: want to shout out our friend Van Nwkirk, who is

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Speaker 6: regularly going to find the stories of people that you

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Speaker 6: may not have had on your walls grown up on

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Speaker 6: your mantle on the church fan. He goes to find

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Speaker 6: these people who are working to preserve their own legacy

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Speaker 6: and there might also preserve our own. So at an

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Speaker 6: end of time right now where I feel like the

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Speaker 6: recipes are the things that Tiff talked about being passed down.

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Speaker 6: The main way we can pass things down is to

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Speaker 6: ensure we know how they're fighting against us, so we

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Speaker 6: can proactively fight back. And of course y'all are my

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Speaker 6: recipe keepers too. I get stretched by y'all every week.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes y'all get on my nerves, but I'm always better

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Speaker 6: for it.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you and vice versa.

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Speaker 2: In all the way especially.

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Speaker 1: I think I think doctor Abram Kenny is an important.

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Speaker 14: Part of our history of today and obviously collecting history

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Speaker 14: of the past and helping us draw connections between them.

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Speaker 1: And I think another recipe keeper who is important that

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Speaker 1: I can't name a singular person here, are going to

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Speaker 1: be those people who are in your community who can

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Speaker 1: track back. Almost every time a new thing is introduced

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Speaker 1: that folks want to do right now in my city,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're trying to determine where they want to

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Speaker 1: want to give the publicly owned land of the hospital,

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Speaker 1: the same hospital which didn't treat black folks until the sixties,

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Speaker 1: want to give it to Florida State University, thereby becoming

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Speaker 1: an asset of the state of Florida. Now giving it

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Speaker 1: is what I'm saying, because this is a hospital paid

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Speaker 1: for by local residents. And I've just read some of

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Speaker 1: the most compelling things and from people writing about just

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Speaker 1: elements of history that auto service cautionary note, cautionary tale

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Speaker 1: to the decision makers of today about why it would

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Speaker 1: be a bad reason to make this decision. Some of

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Speaker 1: those cautionary detales are rooted in racism, others in classism,

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Speaker 1: others in the power of the state to bigfoot people locally.

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Speaker 1: And I just think these perspectives are so important, they're

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Speaker 1: so rich, and it just sometimes takes the lived experience

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01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,759
Speaker 1: to have seen how people once reacted something to remind

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Speaker 1: us that, hey, it may have happened fifty years ago,

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01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 1: but if you don't trust now, trust trust, trust trust forever.

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01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 1: Now after Donald Trump, that the things that we thought

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Speaker 1: had once gone away and would never revisit us is

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Speaker 1: right now the monster, supermonster that we're fighting right now.

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Speaker 1: So those those recipe keepers who are resident in cities, counties,

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Speaker 1: communities all over the country, who are keeping score and

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Speaker 1: keeping record to remind us that, Nah, you don't want

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Speaker 1: to go down that path. We traveled it and I

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Speaker 1: can tell you where it leads. They're important to our

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Speaker 1: community recipes. That was That was really fun. I also

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Speaker 1: appreciate you a question or allowing us to sort of

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Speaker 1: expand in our own interpretation your your definition. So thank you, chef.

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Speaker 1: Y'all we're at CTAs.

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Speaker 15: Who cares about truth in the last morning?

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Speaker 1: Seen it? Where should we began? Tiff? What you got

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Speaker 1: for us?

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Speaker 4: Okay? Well, mine is a little selfish. I'm crowdsourcing. We

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Speaker 4: used to be able to do this on Twitter before

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01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 4: it turned into a right wing garbage but you could

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Speaker 4: ask people like for information and you could actually get

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Speaker 4: in its early days, you can get good info and

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Speaker 4: I get it less so on Instagram too now. So

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Speaker 4: hopefully our listeners can help me out the Moors, as

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Speaker 4: I'm sure a lot of people know the Moors ruled

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Speaker 4: Spain for like eight hundred years, and so the concept

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Speaker 4: of Africans Spain for that long. I will be honest,

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Speaker 4: I don't know a lot about it, and I have

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Speaker 4: been looking for books to read about that, like how

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Speaker 4: it came to be and how they lost Spain. So

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Speaker 4: I am crowdsourcing asking if you know of really good books,

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Speaker 4: not so much academic because I get lost in those,

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Speaker 4: but more a narrative of how this happened. If you

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Speaker 4: know of great documentaries that tell this story, I kind

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Speaker 4: of want both. Please leave a comment. I will look

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Speaker 4: at it. I'm definitely looking to learn more about that,

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Speaker 4: not for any reason, just because I want to know,

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Speaker 4: but I think when we hear about these stories, it

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Speaker 4: changes how we look at the times happening now and

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Speaker 4: changes how we feel about ourselves. So yeah, if anybody

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Speaker 4: knows of a really great book on how the more

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Speaker 4: Is conquered and ruled Spain for eight hundred years and

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Speaker 4: what happened, drop a note.

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Speaker 3: Nice b What you got minus is kind of simple,

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Speaker 3: But I just want to remind people to find something

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Speaker 3: to be really really good at. I was in a

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Speaker 3: trial last week. I have another trial coming up next week,

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Speaker 3: and it just reminded me that I love my profession

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Speaker 3: and my.

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Speaker 1: Goal is so damn good as to be very very

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Speaker 1: good at it.

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Speaker 3: And when I was playing basketball in high school, my

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Speaker 3: coach reminded me that I was a jack of all

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Speaker 3: trades and a master of none, and I just think

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Speaker 3: about that often. Many times we get caught up in

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Speaker 3: trying to be fast and be quick, and we forget

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01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 3: that there is innate value and being very very good

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Speaker 3: at something. So whatever you're focused on, just be the

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Speaker 3: very best, y'all.

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Speaker 6: My call to action is going to be to please

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01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 6: find Bacari's high school stats. I'd like them for Tiff,

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Speaker 6: who is our resident sports expert, just in case we

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Speaker 6: can use that against him as well while his haze

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Speaker 6: up continues. Mine is I borrow something from the conversation

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Speaker 6: with Madam Vice President yesterday, which is to God this week,

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Speaker 6: which is to not let your light be dimmed by

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Speaker 6: this moment.

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 6: We're in the record breaking government shut down and it's

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Speaker 6: impacting everyone from hunger to health care. So I want

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Speaker 6: to make sure that while you are fighting to preserve

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Speaker 6: your light, you might be one of the furlough workers,

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01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,560
Speaker 6: you might be somebody who's been laid off, that you

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01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 6: don't let your light be dimmed, and that you keep

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Speaker 6: talking to us. All we want to hear from you

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01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 6: if you've been impacted by this shutdown. If you're experiencing

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Speaker 6: healthcare premiums rising, we want to know, we want to

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Speaker 6: be able to tell your story, and we certainly want

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Speaker 6: to be helpful.

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 6: We've been inspired by so many folks in our community

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Speaker 6: who have reached out to lend a helping hand in

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Speaker 6: this really, really difficult time.

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Speaker 1: I love it, mind quick. It's because it is for

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Speaker 1: myself and anybody else who wants to take my mother's words.

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Speaker 1: My mom had a knee replacement surgery this week, and

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Speaker 1: so we spent some time together at the hospital, and

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Speaker 1: Bacary while we were together, she said, now, let me

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Speaker 1: ask you why you won't let Bacar we talk. Why

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Speaker 1: do you keep why you keeping the rupt them? You know,

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Speaker 1: I thank you because you listened on the show, but

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Speaker 1: you don't need to be running over other people talking

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Speaker 1: and that is a good boy, and I don't want

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Speaker 1: to see you do that again. So Bacary, I apologize

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Speaker 1: as I did at the I said mine did say

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01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: sorry at the end of the show, and then you

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01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: said something else, and then I was like, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what else I said. Then I remember I hate

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01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 1: you feel that way, and I was like, there's another

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Speaker 1: So just no, man, my mama really rides for you.

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Speaker 1: I had not been admonished before by her for something.

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Speaker 1: And I apologize to all my co hosts for running

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Speaker 1: over you, which I hopefully really do, but I will.

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Speaker 6: Being sensitive to her other child because you don't be

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Speaker 6: running over here.

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Speaker 5: Y'all was running over each other.

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Speaker 2: No, it was good.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think people were just amazed that it

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Speaker 3: took one hundred and three episodes for you to get

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01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 3: a word in. So that's what Andrew sounds like.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, y'all have been listening to I'll be back with

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Speaker 1: her tomorrow. We're getting moved to uh to rehab. But

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Speaker 1: she's a charger. She's getting up. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: the day of the morning she had surgery, first thing

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Speaker 1: in the morning. That afternoon, the guy from from what

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Speaker 1: do you call that therapy?

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Speaker 11: Therapy came in and boy had her out of the

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Speaker 11: bed walking to the bathroom, and because of the way

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01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 11: she was, you know, struggling, I was like, man, we

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Speaker 11: got to do this now.

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Speaker 1: But you know they know best. You got to get

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Speaker 1: moving when you get a new replacement. So thank you

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Speaker 1: for asking. She is well, wishes us well, and we'll

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Speaker 1: see you tomorrow. We'll move her to a residency.

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Speaker 2: Welcome home, We.

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Speaker 1: Welcome home, and welcome Welcome to recovery mommy. And for

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