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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class from how

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Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm editor Candice Gibson, joined by staff writer Jane mc

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Speaker 1: grath Pagans. I think that Vikings are some of the

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Speaker 1: coolest people and all of history. They really are. They're

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Speaker 1: like pirates um at times ten and they're just like,

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Speaker 1: they're so awesome. And I think that one of the

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Speaker 1: best things about Vikings is that their religion. They were pagan,

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Speaker 1: so they had a pandeon of gods, and their foes

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Speaker 1: in the universe were evil giants and dwarves and dark elves,

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Speaker 1: and it's just like a storybook come to life. I

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Speaker 1: think it's just so fascinating. It is original. Their religion, sorry,

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Speaker 1: is very fascinating in that. Um. I guess everybody's heard

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Speaker 1: of thor uh. Yeah, they got a thunder at the hammer.

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Speaker 1: He was actually he was really strong. Obviously, he's also

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Speaker 1: known as being kind of stupid. Um, but he wasn't.

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Speaker 1: What I found is shying is that he wasn't their

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Speaker 1: ultimate god. They had a for an ultimate god. There

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Speaker 1: there's Zeus so to speak, was named Odin and he

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Speaker 1: was the main god and they had this whole drawn

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Speaker 1: out like mythology about Yeah, like you said, the giants

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Speaker 1: and this battle would happen. I think it's called reg Norak.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how that's pronounced, but um, yeah, this

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Speaker 1: they had this whole idea of this battle would happen

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Speaker 1: between their gods and the and the enemy giants, and

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Speaker 1: that the world would be consumed in this fire and

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Speaker 1: everything like that, and and just in the world would uh,

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Speaker 1: there'd be enough members of both races to just barely

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Speaker 1: survive a new world after that. And they just had

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Speaker 1: this all mapped out for the future. Yeah, And it

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Speaker 1: was sort of strange in the context that it was

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Speaker 1: a very self defeatist sort of religion because they thought

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Speaker 1: that evil would triumph over good, and so Vikings and

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Speaker 1: warriors would continue to fight alongside Odin even in their afterlives,

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Speaker 1: but evil would ultimately overcome the good and the universe

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Speaker 1: would be plunged into darkness and chaos. Who wants to

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Speaker 1: we wants to make up a story like that? Like, well,

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Speaker 1: it got me thinking, Jane, because we know that Vikings

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Speaker 1: have this reputation as being pillagers and raiders, and I

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Speaker 1: thought maybe they were living for the here and now,

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Speaker 1: you know, steal from all the good people and enjoy

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Speaker 1: the money and the resources while you have them. And

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Speaker 1: so we may be getting a little bit ahead of ourselves.

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Speaker 1: So let's start back at square one. Viking itself as

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Speaker 1: a term that the origins of which are are pretty nebulous.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of lost in the annals of history. And

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Speaker 1: Viking history itself is is also pretty nebulous because most

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Speaker 1: of the written record about Vikings come from Christians because

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Speaker 1: they were literate at the time, and when Vikings came,

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Speaker 1: monasteries and churches were hotspots for them to raid because

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Speaker 1: there were so many riches contained within. So of course,

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Speaker 1: you know, the monks and the other religious authorities there

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have written very complimentary things about the Vikings, so

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Speaker 1: that's why they have such a predominantly negative reputation. On

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Speaker 1: the other hand, the Viking side of the story has

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Speaker 1: been handed down through epic poems and saga's. It's all

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Speaker 1: oral history, and you know very well that oral history

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Speaker 1: a lot about them. That's true, and it's interesting comparing

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Speaker 1: it to like stories like Beowulf and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Those were also stories told in in similar time periods

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Speaker 1: by these these poets and for Vikings, those Scandinavian peoples

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Speaker 1: um and some of which were eventually written down after

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Speaker 1: the people were assimilated with with the Europeans, but a

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Speaker 1: we don't know what the term Viking itself means, but

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Speaker 1: we have some guesses, and those guesses range from pirate

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Speaker 1: that Vikings would go on were known as I Viking

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Speaker 1: interesting because our article on our site actually makes a

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Speaker 1: good point in that, uh, we should differentiate between Vikings

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Speaker 1: as sort of an occupation of like they were really

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Speaker 1: just pirates, and they were part of these peoples from Scandinavia,

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Speaker 1: we talk about them, definitely, And Vikings were such courageous people,

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Speaker 1: But other scholars point out that they were also incredibly

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Speaker 1: these clinker built ships which were made of over overlapping

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Speaker 1: exactly where they were going, or if like the Easter Islanders.

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Speaker 1: They were just setting out sail hoping to find land somewhere.

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Speaker 1: So you have to think that these people who were

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, they may have just landed just to

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Speaker 1: get some rest. That's right. And it is regardless of

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Speaker 1: like what motivated them or whether they knew where they

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Speaker 1: Like if you look at a map of where they went,

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Speaker 1: it's just interesting. You never think of them going down

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Speaker 1: ships were amazing feet of technology at the time too.

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Speaker 1: They had uh square sales, but they also had or

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Speaker 1: they were double ended, many of them, so that they

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Speaker 1: so the Vikings expanding their empire, they needed more land

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Speaker 1: They were farmers, they were fishermen, uh, they were merchants.

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Speaker 1: conducting war raids, and for fishing. So if you weren't

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