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Speaker 1: Get your hands together, and we're going to start to

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Speaker 1: party and start.

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Speaker 2: I'm reading a party, The Elvis Duran After Party.

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Speaker 1: The After Party Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Hello, everybody, we do need to pull an intervention on

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Speaker 3: someone who works with us, Andrew. Andrew, uh, thank you

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Speaker 3: for being here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any any idea at all why we

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Speaker 3: wanted you here with us?

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Speaker 1: No, but it's an intervention. So now I'm wondering what

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Speaker 1: I need to be intervened about.

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Speaker 4: He knows. He knows because I tried to intervention him

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Speaker 4: about this already.

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Speaker 3: Is there any way we could pull up your phone

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Speaker 3: to see your phone time with this video gaming you

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Speaker 3: got going.

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Speaker 1: On Gardenscapes, isn't it? Yes?

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Speaker 3: I tell tell everyone loud and proud what you're addicted to.

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Speaker 3: It's a game on the mobile phone called.

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Speaker 4: And what do you do?

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Speaker 1: It?

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Speaker 4: From the cares of Royal Royal Matches?

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Speaker 1: So this is embarrassing. I literally was playing it right

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Speaker 1: before we started.

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Speaker 4: And what do you do on this game?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's really fun. Look at this. I built

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Speaker 1: this beautiful garden.

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Speaker 5: Look at that.

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Speaker 1: I like that. I'm refurbishing the garden. I just put

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Speaker 1: these new fountains in.

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Speaker 6: Look at how beautiful it is.

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Speaker 1: We're throwing an orchestral party tonight, so I'm just getting

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Speaker 1: ready for it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so how long have you been playing garden Escapes.

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Speaker 3: It's been about a month of hardcore playing. And it's

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Speaker 3: like a match puzzle game. So the problem is, and

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Speaker 3: you know this, Elvis, we share a love of casino

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Speaker 3: games together, specifically slot machines. So when you start making

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Speaker 3: the puzzles, they start lighting up, and you get extras

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Speaker 3: and bonuses, and it makes noises in the phone vibrates.

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Speaker 1: And you're life fun.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's fun, but we find that you are always playing.

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Speaker 3: I mean it is always I'm not exaggerating.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's.

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Speaker 6: Addictating, impacting your performance.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well that's the question.

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Speaker 3: Should you be thinking about cutting back if it's not

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Speaker 3: impacting your performance.

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Speaker 1: Probably not.

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Speaker 3: But once you pass that point where your performance is impacted,

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Speaker 3: which Nate is saying, that you're not really getting your

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Speaker 6: And I know this because when I come up to

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Speaker 6: Andrew and I want to talk to him about X,

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Speaker 6: Y or Z, he's on his phone and I go hey, Andrew,

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Speaker 6: and then he immediately does this, Yes.

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Speaker 3: He slams his phone down upside down, so we can't

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Speaker 3: see what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: We know what you're doing.

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Speaker 4: We know what you're doing.

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Speaker 5: That's an addiction. Yeah, he's not that.

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Speaker 6: You can't hide it, pal.

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Speaker 1: I've watched a lot of interventions, so now I'm just

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Speaker 1: seeing it from the other side, and you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: realizing I'm doing the classic intervention steps. Okay, well, hold on.

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Speaker 3: Before an intervention, we need to make sure he is

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Speaker 3: going overboard with his usage for this game.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying, I have to check that screen time,

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Speaker 1: go check it. It's going to be so bad.

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Speaker 4: It's the pointment intervention where all of us share with

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Speaker 4: him how his Gardenscape addiction has negatively impacted us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would like to go first.

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Speaker 1: Scary Scary has really bad breath. Don't let it too close.

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Speaker 1: I can smell that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Scary, it's really bad. Don't don't get that

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Speaker 3: close to him. He already has problems with this video

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Speaker 1: Where do I go to screen time? Oh no, my

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Speaker 1: phone is broken screen time? Oh that's smart. Yeah, Oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: you know the phones are so difficult these days.

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Speaker 3: Let's see. Oh god, what is screens twenty seven minutes?

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Speaker 1: Why that, Oh God, garden Scapes is Yeah, garden Scapes

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Speaker 1: is a solid six hours.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I didn't know what that meant.

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Speaker 1: We didn't, Andrew, you know you knew, No, I just you.

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Speaker 6: I just didn't see it. One quarter of your day

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Speaker 4: Just trying to build the orchestral scene.

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Speaker 1: I to feel like it should start playing that. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like if he likes it, I would like it too.

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Speaker 1: I did not realize these.

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Speaker 2: Types of games I've had, We've had issues in my

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Speaker 7: Years ago. There was one where you like build an

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Speaker 7: entire like I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know city and like the like the same session and

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Speaker 2: I went to sleep and I woke up and my

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Speaker 7: I'm like, what what do you.

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Speaker 1: How many hours?

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Speaker 4: It was a lot?

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Speaker 7: Must have been asleep seven eight hours?

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Speaker 5: Are here was a problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And he realized it and he's like, I gotta stop,

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Speaker 2: So he stopped playing it.

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Speaker 7: So that was years ago. The question happens.

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Speaker 5: I want to break down the psyche for a second.

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Speaker 5: What is the joy and that you get out of

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Speaker 5: or the gratification that comes with successfully building a garden

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Speaker 1: All sorts of things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're you're actually creating something that's not real,

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Speaker 3: but it's real on the.

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Speaker 1: Screen, and the puzzle portion of it is really addicting.

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Speaker 1: And also there's creativity, yes, thank you Elvis. Yes, creativity.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh, there's so many problems. I would like to

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Speaker 4: share soon how his Garden Scaves has negatively impact in

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Speaker 4: my life. But Andrew is a child's game developer's dream

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Speaker 4: because he walks by something shiny with colors and he's

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Speaker 4: He's there. It's a game where, like the Claw game,

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Speaker 4: you never win. Andrew will spend thirty dollars on it.

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Speaker 4: The man has a problem. Yeah, and I say this

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Speaker 4: because Andrew and I do a lot of stuff together

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Speaker 1: Is this true? It was like one time, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: Up late to things because he's like, I'm sorry, I

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Speaker 4: got distracted playing garden Scapes. And he he uses this

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Speaker 4: as though that's a genuine excuse to have not done

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Speaker 4: the thing he was supposed to do. So that Andrew

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Speaker 4: is how your garden scape addiction has negatively impacted me.

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Speaker 1: I didn't get off at the right stop on the

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Speaker 3: Because I was playing Really two, Okay, so let me

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Speaker 3: ask the ultimate question, and please and answer honestly. Yes,

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Speaker 3: have you ever lied to cover up the fact that

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Speaker 3: been doing something else?

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Speaker 1: No? No, I will say, don't you lie to me? Okay, Dad? Wow?

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Speaker 4: I mean, isn't it kind of why if he hides

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Speaker 1: Somebody wants to know if you share your phone?

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Speaker 3: Down up, tied down, So now I can see the screen.

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Speaker 3: That means you are sort of hiding.

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Speaker 7: That means you're doing something you're ashamed of too.

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Speaker 1: Is this my rock bottom? It's my rock bottom? I

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Speaker 1: gotta get rid of garden Scapes? No?

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Speaker 3: No, See, how come we can't just control it?

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Speaker 1: Because it's bright and shiny and then you just there's

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Speaker 1: no end to it vibrates. Yeah, and it's just us all.

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Speaker 6: The things it rewards.

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Speaker 4: He gets rewarded for his matches.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you know their job is done. They created

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Speaker 1: Doing its job. I said to myself, I was going

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Speaker 1: to build the garden, because there's several other levels outside

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Speaker 1: of this one. I want to build it, make this

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Speaker 1: done with it. But now I'm just thinking I should

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Speaker 3: Wait, hold on, Red, there's enough. There's a mansion.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's you're building a beautiful garden mansion. Oh, I

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Speaker 2: I've got one that I think would get Gandhi addicted.

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Speaker 2: Spencer's playing it in the Jurassic Park one and he

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Speaker 2: and he gets dinosaurs and he has to take care

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Speaker 2: it out now in his worl.

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Speaker 7: And he gets, I gotta feed them. I gotta whatever

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Speaker 7: that would get you.

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Speaker 1: Jurassic Park one.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what it's called, Jurassic World, Jurassic something.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So does gardenscapes have in app purchases?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't do those.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, how much money you spending on

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Speaker 1: I would never spend money on a game like that.

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Speaker 1: I know my limit.

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Speaker 4: Okay, good?

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Speaker 6: Should we get him a sponsor? Seriously, is there somebody

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Speaker 6: that's gone through this, that knows the ups and downs

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Speaker 6: of when that.

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Speaker 4: He can call them.

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Speaker 6: Yes, seriously, there can you find someone?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I think I can't. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think I don't need a sponsor. I'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: I can do this. You can go cold turkey. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I will delete it right now.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you should delete it. You need to

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Speaker 3: control it. Wouldn't that be more satisfying?

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Speaker 4: Can't you just limit yourself in the time.

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Speaker 3: Deleting your quitter? All right, well, can we just keep

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Speaker 3: an eye on this and maybe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I promise I won't play Gardenscapes in the workplace anymore.

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Speaker 1: You can just do it less. And it's hard to

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Speaker 1: do it less because then if you get like an

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Speaker 1: electric showdown, then all of a sudden, yes, and it'll

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Speaker 1: reward you every time that you stay away. Yes. If

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Speaker 1: I take like two days off, I come back and

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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you got bonus puzzles, and then you

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Speaker 1: got bonus lives and all this other stuff, and then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's like, oh, well two hours

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Speaker 1: of my time matches. They really have you addicted? Yes,

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Speaker 1: you really are. Don't you have a game that you

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Speaker 1: play all the time to shut.

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Speaker 4: The hell up. I talked about how to play it

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Speaker 4: nearly as much as this. I'm obsessed with Russell. I

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Speaker 4: wish other people would play it with me. It's a

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Speaker 4: word game. It's good for your brain.

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Speaker 3: See word games are good for your brain. There is

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Speaker 3: an argument for that. But still limit your time on

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Speaker 4: I would say, max at Russell. I'll be thirty minutes

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Speaker 4: a day now, but I want to play it every day.

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Speaker 4: I gotta get myst.

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Speaker 1: Your neighbor that banged on your wall and told you

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Speaker 1: to shut up.

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Speaker 4: That was years ago. Andrew. I was collecting coins.

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Speaker 6: So that loud.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I had. I had the volume all the

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Speaker 4: Ruzzle and I was collecting the coins and I got

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Speaker 1: I see. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 3: Let's keep an eye on gardens escapes with you, and

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Speaker 3: ruzzle with you, young lady. Let's continue to monitor this please. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and thank you, thank you. You can do it, Andrew.

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Speaker 3: If you can just limit your time on your garden scapes,

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Speaker 3: it'll be a good thing for everyone.

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Speaker 1: This has been an eye opening experience for me. This

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Speaker 1: feels like my rock bottom. If I'm getting interventioned, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you want to check me into a ninety dight program,

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 2: I would some program, some suggestions where he wants to

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Speaker 2: go program.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure we'll say bar yeah, okay, good luck

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